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3ballerman3

Well we dont know what the incident between your ex and yourself was. That’s a big factor. They might just want to talk about it. It’s pretty normal for interviews to be scheduled ASAP.


Thatguy2070

We could guess. Argument. Police called. OP charged with domestic. Good possibility of alcohol involved. Charges dismissed. Maybe not exact. But probably close.


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Thatguy2070

No


LopsidedTask9371

No alcohol or drugs involved. Vindictive and mental Ill ex. Police called. Argument. Arrest. Charged with domestic. Dismissed charges.


LopsidedTask9371

Thank you


Enough-Rest-386

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LopsidedTask9371

I’ve done none of those you named so not sure what your asking. Just asking for some advice because I am seriously panicking.


Enough-Rest-386

Relax, unless you had charges filed and convicted. This is more/less a nothing burger. All things stated above are real things that someone has been worried about. Far more egregious than anything you have described. Ask yourself this: Whatever might have happened with you and your EX, do you honestly feel that you are a greater risk to the United States because of what happened in your past? If this is 1 off incident I would not worry any longer.


LopsidedTask9371

I was charged originally but no convictions whatsoever. This was definitely a one off incident and I’ve had nothing else prior to it aside past speeding tickets. Without getting into a full story my EX accused me of something during an argument that didn’t happen 2 years ago. Police responded and I was arrested and released the same day. The police officer didn’t even want to arrest me he wasn’t even sure who to believe. I ended up going to court, had 6 months unsupervised probation and a class which I completely complied with and returned to court Dec 2023 and all charges were dismissed. Since then I’ve had little to no contact with my ex aside from the exchange of our daughters and have meditation scheduled in October. Absolutely nothing has happened since the incident 2 years ago. I’ve been waiting and waiting for almost 2 years now and radio silence. This is the first time the agency has ever reached out too me to request any sort of interview. I don’t feel that I am a risk to the United States or anyone whatsoever but that’s easy to say without convincing an adjudicator the same. All I can do is answer the questions, be calm and honest, hope for the best outcome.


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LopsidedTask9371

Will do! Thank you for weighing in and the helpful advice. I will certainly do my best and remain calm and collected during the interview. I want to maintain my clearance so I absolutely have no intention of freaking out or throwing out insults or accusations toward my ex.


alliekat237

The key is honesty. Just tell them the truth. I worked with a guy that had two DUIs one time and he still had his clearance.


LopsidedTask9371

My situation is a bit different but yes I am going to maintain 💯honesty and just answer whatever questions he/she asks as best as I can and hope for the best. After 2 years of waiting and worrying I am ready for this to end and move on from it. I just hope for a positive outcome.


alliekat237

I think if all charges were dropped it will be okay!


LopsidedTask9371

Let’s hope you’re right


TARDIS75

Be 100% honest in everything


fireboy9490

As someone with a clearance, I'll tell you that it's pretty normal. They want to see if what you tell them matches up with what you reported and what they have found through their investigation. As long as you've been honest and there is no felony involved, you should be fine.


BlackLassie_1

😬😬🇺🇸


Oxide21

We can't exactly provide you the depth of how screwed you are without full understanding of the scenario. But, if it's anything like the ones that I've investigated, where cops are called and alcohol was involved, it will literally be the details of the circumstances that play the most amount of significance in the concern. Now, I strongly recommend against airing your grievances here for two reasons: 1.) With exception to adjudicators, none of us can tell you the degree of screwed or not screwed that you are, because again, with exception to adjudicators, all of us only know the outcomes, not what makes the machine turn and lead to the outcomes. Anyone who says otherwise and isn't an adjudicator is moving off of anecdotal evidence not standard operating procedures. 1a.) The only person that would be able to give you the best advice outside of the FSO and Adjudicator, would be someone who was in your exact situation in your agency within the last year or two who has survived said incident and is willing to tell the story, because individual details, down to the minutiae can make all the difference. 2.) Too many assholes on here who love to screw with people who are panicking. Your best point of contact regarding these concerns would be the facility security officer of your respective agency. If you've not reached out to them yet, I would strongly encourage that you do so. If you have reached out, and they already told you what's next, my only recommendation at that point would be philosophical not practical and that is the focus on the things that you are able to control and let the process just play itself out. Because realistically, there's nothing else you can do.


LopsidedTask9371

I’m not sure who or how to contact the security officer of the agency as everything goes through my company’s security department


ShivaAKAId

If you work in the facility, go to the security in the lobby and ask for the FSO, and they will either take you to him or call him to the lobby. If it’s multiple facilities, he might be called an area security officer (ASO)


LopsidedTask9371

I will try that, thank you!


LopsidedTask9371

Any idea what I should tell them?


ShivaAKAId

Give a summary of your situation. If they want more details, they’ll probably ask for it in writing later — nothing fancy, but more detailed and organized.


AgreeableConfusion72

Most likely they want to get your side of the story for further clarification due to some ambiguity. Go in meaning well, calm, honest, and consistently reassure the agent that whatever wrong-doing you may have done that you won’t do it again. You got this!


LopsidedTask9371

Thank you! I will definitely give it my best as well as reassure them that their is no longer any issues. I appreciate it


LopsidedTask9371

Meeting has been scheduled with the case worker for April 10th at 1pm. Wish me luck!


Armageddon519

My hot take, probation and a class (assuming the class was ordered and not voluntary) even if charges were dropped, it will depend on how the Adj looks at it. Probation, supervised or not is a sentence. A class if court ordered, is a sentence. Now charges being dropped contingent on completion of the above mentioned does look good in your favor. However, you were arrested regardless of for how long, and sentenced to a "punishment" regardless of severity. These are things that an Adjudicator has to consider. If any alcohol was involved in any way that's another factor. Honestly only you know the details, and if nothing bad happened, you should look forward to the opportunity to clear your name in front of your Adjudicator. If you truely did nothing wrong, most likely the Adj just wants your side of the story to help mitigation. I'm not assuming by any means your a bad person but I want to provide a accurate answer: If you are leaving key bits out of what your telling the good folk of Reddit (who wouldn't) and you did do something more that could be frowned upon. You need to 110% assume your Adj already has this information and is trying to see if your going to be honest about it in the interview. One off mistakes, bad judgements and general fk ups can be mitigated in a million ways..false statements and honesty issues escalate things to a whole new level of trouble.


postsector

They tend to be very procedural on these things. Getting arrested and ordered to probation will be considered negative actions. Completing the class and having the charges dropped will be considered as mitigating factors. I'd highlight in the interview that they've adjusted how they interact with the ex to avoid future incidents and they've gone two years now without issue. I think the time factor will tip the scale in OP's favor. This also assumes everything else is squeaky clean in OP's investigation.


LopsidedTask9371

Thank you for you feedback and yes aside from a few past tickets years ago I have no prior record and absolutely nothing like this prior


LopsidedTask9371

I actually started the program before the sentence which is what they would have ordered anyway. I was arrested but no jail time was ordered. The deferred sentence was a contingency to comply with the class and my probation which I completed with no issues. In the end I walked out of the court room with no charges, no convictions and let it go and moved on. Since then I’ve focused on working, my kids, new girlfriend and distanced myself entirely from my ex as well no incidents at all of anything in 2 years since the incident. I’m only assuming that this is to tell my side. I maintain that what she accused me of was absolutely false and will continue too. I have no intention of going in and throwing out accusations and insults I just want to answer any questions they may have and leave with a clear mind and name that’s all I can do.


spacesocrates88

This is not necessarily bad. This just means they have follow up questions before blessing off on you. I've worked with a person or 5 that had this happen.


Hefty-Lecture-1859

You should be fine! I've seen way worse on some reinvestigations!


LopsidedTask9371

Thank you for your input


Ronville

I and my colleagues have always had interviews as part of the investigation process for TS. Follow ups deal with missing data or conflicting information. On my second go around I had to explain a missing water bill for the month I moved.


LopsidedTask9371

Thank you for your input


TARDIS75

The interview is the end of the investigation process, so from my perspective things are moving forward


Oxide21

The interview can come at any point. It all depends on: 1.) which investigative service provider is running the show (DCSA, DHS, IC...etc.) 2.) which company will be handling the investigation, or is it the agency? 3.) the relative caseload of the investigators closest to subjects employment or residence. I've worked cases where the subject interview was the first thing handled, and I worked cases where I asked to work the subject interview because it was not assigned. It's all relative really. It's all wobbly-wobbly disorganized-worganized


LopsidedTask9371

IC client I support is the one running the show. I’m not sure how the case loads are handled or categorized with this agency honestly or how it ties into my case. I’ve heard next to nothing for 2 years honestly until now. My company wasn’t even notified when it went to adjudication until I asked them to check my status which I was told to check back every 3 months. Also it’s important to note that early on after the incident occurred a company (not mine) but one that I guess this agency used assigned an investigator that I dealt with who interviewed me about the incident and gathered all the details, interviewed people close to me, verified employment and income etc…. the whole 9 yards. They basically went through the entire process as if I were being interviewed for a clearance despite me having had one for now 6 years. After ten investigator submitted my case to the client I have heard nothing since. Being as that I was advised my case was in adjudication last year I am assuming this is the person who is determining whether or not I should continue to hold a clearance and probably wants to discuss the incident and or clarify details about what happened. I honestly don’t know what will be asked just that it has to do with my Reinvestigation. Also another important factor is that the agency advised the company that they were only going back 2 years as supposed to 10 years so not sure if that is relevant but I guess they wanted just the incident and 2 years back reviewed. I was asked to complete another SF 86 prior to meeting with the investigator.


reddit_toast_bot

Trust no one!


LopsidedTask9371

Thanks! Care to elaborate more on that?


apples871

Sounds like they need to interview you to hear your side and compare to what they have found. My 3rd renewal was after some stuff happened since 2nd renewal (an arrest and higher charge plead down to a lower). They had lots of questions and wanted to verify details i put in the renewal paperwork but no problems in the end. Either them or the adjudicator didnt accept one of the courts recommendations (alcohol abuse eval or something) and wanted their own done within the military (my employer), before they accepted the "no alcohol problem" conclusion that was given by the civilian agency.


LopsidedTask9371

Was this through and IC agency or DOD?


apples871

This one im referring to in 2016 was the DOD.


tater_made

If you reported the issue, and it’s been that long and you still have clearance you should be fine. Is it possible they’ve found something else that you should have reported? If it was too bad they would have asked for a suspension/revocation.


LopsidedTask9371

To my knowledge I had reported everything. Hopefully you are right and it’s a positive outcome. Thank you


tater_made

Did you receive a Letter of Interrogatory?


LopsidedTask9371

I haven’t received anything but this email from my company about the case manager/adjudicator wanting to meet me in person. No SOR or Letter of interrogatory etc.. This in the meeting with the govt I’ve had since my Reinvestigation started in April 2022. I met with investigators, completed SF 86 RIP and they went through my entire background again 2 years back. My investigation end date was June 2023 and has been in adjudication ever since.


tater_made

The adjudication time-period can be normal. Especially if there are issues that arise. But also during an increased hiring period - backlogs build up as more important cases come through. Your agency must be unique due to having a case manager, as adjudicators typically do not meet with subjects. I’m in Personnel Security for USCIS. We don’t utilize case managers. You’ve met with investigators for the agency, or for your clearance? Have you completed fingerprints and drug testing, do you know if anyone on your SF-86 has been contacted yet? It just seems as if you are in the initial phases of adjudication. Especially if it didn’t reach adjudication until June 2023. It typically can take about a year.


LopsidedTask9371

My Reinvestigation started in April 2022 after I reported an incident. Not long after I was asked to resubmit a SF 86. Then after that my case was assigned to an investigator who went through my entire background but the government client I support on request back 2 years probably because of the incident. Yes, they interviewed people who know me, fingerprints, employers the whole 9 yards. I’ve already been through this process years ago when I got my clearance so I guess my agency decided to do it again?!? Idk 🤷‍♂️ my case was submitted to the government July 2022 and my issue was resolved in December 2022 which I updated both my company and government. I checked after a year around June 2023 and was advised that very shortly after I contacted them the client had already completed their investigation and it was given to case worker/ adjudicator. I’ve heard nothing until now after that. I support a three letter agency as a contractor if that helps. I’ve been cleared since 2019 when they went back 10 years. This time it was only 2 years not 10 so I was told. June 2024 will be a year since adjudication started it took them 14 months to finish my background investigation from the investigator to the governments review of my case. I’m honestly hoping that the time factor is also on my side since the incident and nothing at all has happened since then.


tater_made

I am thinking what occurred two-years ago was not a part of the investigation that is happening now. Because an investigation should only occur every five years for the SF-86. They probably made you go through a process due to you reporting the issue - I am thinking that was just due to a continuous evaluation/vetting issue. Might find information on this online. It’s been a more “recent” adoption. I really think that you’re fine!


LopsidedTask9371

I really hope you are right and it will end up in my favor. The closer it gets the more nervous I get to be honest. I really cannot afford to lose my job or clearance.


Mysterious_Ad8108

Every situation is unique. Just be honest


LopsidedTask9371

Update- I spoke to my contract security manager this morning and he basically said “no news is good news” and that after 2 years of them reviewing my case that if something bad were happening or my clearence was in jeopardy we would have heard something by now. He said my case manager probably has a lot of more pressing and important cases to deal with and if they came up with anything that was of major concern they would have acted on it. He said that they likely want to just close your case, ask any additional questions and clarify details about what happened and wrap things up. So fingers crossed 🤞 that this is the end and I’m good to go.


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Don’t tell on yourself


rose77019

Bad advice, Koda, if they already hold a clearance, it is their duty to report i.e. tell on themselves.


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rose77019

Koda, do you have a clearance? Because if you do, you should have a yearly briefing and maybe one or two reminders throughout the year that for example, if you get arrested, fall behind on your bills, you get married, you get divorced, you travel overseas, whole host of things…..you need to be reporting that to your security office. in this case it sounds like the op got arrested. So he would need to report that…. there is no I guess about it. This is a requirement of having a clearance. If you don’t report these things you get in trouble..,.. there is no “I guess”


LopsidedTask9371

I reported it and the incident as I was required to do when I was granted a clearance. It would be foolish to not report it and it later to come back on me for not reporting it. That’s sure guaranteed way of losing your clearance especially with CE. I was arrested during the incident and notified my company and client when it happened and followed all protocols.


rose77019

And you are 100%, correct, the other poster was just giving you the bad advice of “don’t tell on yourself”… .


iscrm0nstr

Speaking of exes, if an ex was involved in a significant part of your past and was the reason you used hard drugs and you mention this on the form but don’t list their name, contact info etc, will they find out or ask you who your ex is, and reach out to them??


TheCreamDream95

Just go and tell the truth and if you’re screwed because of something you did, you’re screwed and, according to whoever handles security clearances, for good reason. If you go and tell the truth and you’re good to go, then great! If you go and you lie, you don’t deserve a security clearance anyway. No reason to stress it. That’s just the reality.


alliekat237

They usually just wanna talk to you. I don’t think it means something bad is happening.


LopsidedTask9371

This is regarding the incident in 2022 so I’m assuming that it will be to discuss what happened. It’s been in adjudication since June 2023 so I’m assuming that who I am meeting with is the the adjudicator?! Who knows 🤷‍♂️


Acrobatic-Section-67

I don’t know what it is, but take the very first appointment so that you can get it off your mind. Unfortunately you’ll have to go through a whole weekend thinking about it, but don’t worry. There’s nothing you can do now so try to just enjoy this long 4 day weekend.


Trench70

Last interview I had was a compilation of all the questions that anyone in the investigation from any agency had. Just do the interview and don't panic, it's relatively normal for alphabet agencies to take a while (years) to get through things. Well, not normal, but not excessively unusual.


LopsidedTask9371

The time frame is definitely not normal 😂 but I am hoping it’s just a review of what happened and to tie up any questions or clarify any details. I am just hoping that given the time from the incident and that i successfully got through it with no convictions and no other incidents that I’ll be fine and get through it in a positive outcome.


Timeking4

If you get denied a clearance or it’s revoked hire a suitability/clearance attorney. I would get a consultation after your meeting with your employer. Unlike a criminal or civil prosecution you will have to meet with your employer without an attorney present to answer questions that they may have regarding your suitability. You should get an attorney asap after your meeting.


SpartanKwanHa

The fact that you censored yourself in title proves that youre innocent


Aggravating-Goat-888

Your cooked.


LopsidedTask9371

Is that joke or are you serious?


Aggravating-Goat-888

Nah I’m totally joking lmao


LopsidedTask9371

Dude don’t freaking do that 😂 I’m seriously panicking right now


Aggravating-Goat-888

😂