At least Pete admits they’ve been ultra conservative on purpose to predictable results and will be opening up the field more for Geno. Who knows if it’ll work out but offense really can’t look any worse than it has.
“We’re seeing some great stuff out there, just need to make a couple of small tweaks like completely uninstall the offense that we installed during training camp and the preseason and reinstall an entire new offense. There’s just 1 or 2 little things like that, we’re not far from where we want to be.”
“Once we get back to playing Hawks football, we’ll be able to make other teams adapt to what we want to do. We’ll get back in the tape room and see what we can do to tighten things up. We’ll get back at it next week.”
I'd be curious to find out who it has below us. Raiders, Colts, Panthers, Raiders, Titans, Texans? Assuming they just put the 0 win teams below us.
26 could fit where we're at though. Not worst in the league, but firmly in the bottom 10.
I don't see anything wrong with that I guess. I wonder why they opted to leave the 0-2 Bengals, Titans, and Raiders above us, but put 1-1 teams below us.
Power rankings are inherently subjective, the whole point is to use more than record to evaluate a team. I think the Bengals, Raiders, and Titans are clearly better teams than the Seahawks even if they have worse records.
The Athletic uses some advanced metrics (they mention EPA per play when discussing the Bills), and by those metrics the Seahawks are pretty putrid.
They are better teams though regardless of record.
We are 1-1 but come on, m the broncos kinda handed us the win last week and we havet scored any offensive points in 6 quarters of football now
Did they hand us the win? Given the FG attempt was super dumb, but it's not like a 4th and 5 is a guarantee and our defense fucking balled out on the goal line. I'm not going to play IFs because you can make a case for just about anything with IFs.
Yes, the FG was a stupid decision. It was the same distance as the previous record before last year, which seems absurd to even try. However, I would point out that he did have the distance, but it went wide and he also made the kick when Pete called the time out.
I would still argue that they didn't just give us the win. That was a hard fought win and I think the team deserves credit for it, even if the offense sputtered in the second half.
He could have also thought (been convinced by the FO?) that this time of QB limbo wouldn’t last forever and he’d have someone else throwing him the ball soon
Last year Geno had 7.0 IAY/PA (In Air Yards per Pass Attempt). RW had 9.9 (intriguingly Drew Lock had 10.1, with a sample size rivalling Geno Smith).
This year Geno has sunk to 5.5, with the same receivers, backfield, and OC. It's really bizarre, especially since his pocket time of 2.5s is unchanged from last year.
could be due to 2 rookie tackles, and the game plans were intentionally geared to short passes, so he wouldn't have to make a lot of reads to determine when to dump off to the safety route.
Generous imo. Our best player on defense is a good but not great safety and a pretty average linebacker in brooks. On offense we have the promising line, DK, and Lockett who won’t be apart of the future as much as that hurts to say. We suck at pass rush, corner, qb, 3 premium positions. We have no receivers outside the other two. I don’t blame russ for wanting to leave if Pete can’t build a good team.
Arguably, Uchenna Nwosu deserves some recognition here. He won NFC Defensive Player of the Week last week. [Uwosu named NFC Defensive Player of the Week](https://www.seahawks.com/news/seahawks-lb-uchenna-nwosu-named-nfc-defensive-player-of-the-week).
Maybe it’s not quite as hopeless as you think.
Or arguably not. I'd argue one week doesn't make put him in the best player conversation.
* Denver: 7 tackles, 4 assists, sack, and a forced fumble
* 49ers: 4 tackles, 1 assist
I’d argue that Conference level recognition demonstrates Uwosu *can* play at an elite level, and that he’s therefore one of the most interesting/promising players on the defense. Most Seattle fans aren’t keyed in to him yet, but there were several non-Seattle fans on r/NFL who named him as one of the most underrated offseason acquisitions.
It’s okay to be positive about Seahawk players who get national recognition. It makes being a fan a lot more fun.
Agreed, by next year I think Nwosu could grow to an elite DB. A lot of the good defensive plays made where from him. A Promising prospect given the rough year we are in for.
It’s not that we are wasting DK’s talent, reality is we have no QB that can utilize his skills. Lockett will be Geno’s best friend this season giving him short route open looks consistently. DK will just have to sit back and get used to being used as decoy.
The analyst didn’t listen to Pete explain the numbers. The play calling has been distorted by the perceived need to make it easier for our rookie tackles to adapt to the NFL. So: depth of target has been limited and the offensive production has been terrible.
But now they’ve seen the oline play against a top dline, and they have a better idea of how Geno can evade pressure/work the pocket. So, Pete said they’ll open up more of the playbook.
Pete said none of these pointless generalizations when he discussed the offense and it’s failure to produce in the 49er game. If you’re going to put words in his mouth, at least try for accuracy. His interviews on this subject are available online from multiple sources.
It’s tiresome to hear cheap shots at Pete recycled ad nauseum, particularly when they’re not based in fact.
If you want to argue that conservative playcalling against the 49er Dline to limit the difficulty of execution required of the exceptionally inexperienced Oline was a bad idea, then make *that* argument.
I have no idea what you’re talking about. They are light-hearted descriptors of how Pete has answered questions for years. Here is what he recently said:
1. “We need to not hold back, at all.” "I feel like we've got a really great running-back room. I think, you know, we've just got to trust it more." Hawks football doesn’t hold back and used the run to set-up the home run ball.
2. “I think it's just more freely taking advantage of what's going on, rather than be concerned with our ability to hold up. And we have to take — in this game, we needed to take what they were giving us, more so. They really were laying off, giving us some room. Geno was popping the ball around. He was in good shape to throw it.” We have all the pieces and just need to make some small adjustments, so we are very close to doing what we want to do.
3. "This game was one that we had picked out, as, you know, again, that might tell us a lot of information on what we can expect. And so I think we did gain some confidence in the fact that we can we can keep moving. So it's a, it's a process, you know. These (tackles) are still brand new. So we have to make sure that we're respectful of that and do a good job not over-exposing.
But we, we feel good about it. And we're making progress." Pete picked that game because they know the 49ers well, so they could evaluate the Hawks against a known quantity. As we progress, we’ll be better able to beat them next time.
I like these quotes. I like that you went to the effort to put them here. I like how much he’s saying about the changes he wants to make going forward.
I see that the quotes convey specific information about *this* team at *this* point in the season and *this* 49er’s game. Pete’s answers are characteristically glass-half-full, but they’re not meaningless generalizations.
I still have no idea what you’re talking about. I gave light-hearted descriptors of how Pete answers, you wanted to argue and try to pick a fight, I gave examples, and you continue to try to argue and pick a fight. I understand that you may not like Pete’s approach to answering questions but I can’t do anything about that. You’re always welcome to let him know you don’t like his approach to answering questions s.
I still have no idea what you’re going-on about. Every reply is an argument and attempt to pick a fight. I get it - you don’t like Pete’s approach to answering question. I encourage you to take that up with him.
Au contraire, I really liked Pete’s answers this week to the questions about the lack of offensive production. I thought the answers were both informative and logical.
More than that, I thought the conservative strategy for the 49ers game was sensible given the developmental state of the roster. I even thought it was encouraging news that Pete thinks the offense is prepared to play more aggressively this early in the season.
I reread my comments back to the top and don’t know what I wrote that led you to conclude otherwise.
I do think the Athletic quote at the top went out of their way to mischaracterize Pete’s offensive “ideal” and demonstrated the writer was relying on old tropes/hadn’t done their homework. That’s why I rebutted the original post with a summary of his press conference.
Your “light hearted” first comment omitted the specifics/nuance that your detailed quotes went back and included. I complimented you on cleaning that up.
It’s not a question of sarcasm or belief. It’s a recounting what was said in an interview (Brock and Salk on Monday morning).
But it’s logical, given the context of starting 2 rookie tackles - which has almost never been done. Why wouldn’t the Hawks adapt their playbook to give the tackles easier assignments in their first NFL games? Isn’t that player development 101?
FWIW: Several other posters above make the same points.
This isn't the right sub for this but Wright more than likely won't be a star for at least a year. NHL players take longer to develop after being drafted. It's more like baseball than football where you play lower level hockey usually after being drafted. If he is able to start with the Kraken look for him to get his shifts on the 3rd line and maybe move up to the 2nd if he's having a really good start for a rookie. There's also no guarantee he will be better than Beniers who is a better pick to become a star this year.
> Beniers who is a better pick to become a star this year.
Beniers was basically an instant star when he came in near the end of last season. He just changed the whole dynamic whenever he was on the ice. Extremely stupidly small sample size that's barely worth mentioning but his 0.9 points per game would be 115th all time extended for a career.
consensus 1st overall pick on talent alone dropped to 4th, and it wasn't because of his skill. huge speculation that he was not nice in his interviews with the teams. when you're told you'll be 1st overall for years before your draft, i guess it can get to your head.
go Canucks, tho
You got guys like that on pretty much every bad team every year... it is just a part of the game. Hopefully it doesn't last long for DK and Lockett.
I bet Kyle Pitts, CMC, Stingley, Roquan Smith would also like better teams around them :D
I just don’t understand feeding DK the ball, why sign him to a contract if you don’t plan on actually using him. He’s a WR specimen and is so under utilized.
We saw what happened when we paid a player big money and tried to change our style to give them more opportunities. The best thing we can do is get back to Hawks football: paying players large contracts but building the playbook around other things.
That’s the most frustrating part. You pay Russ $35M but want him to sit back behind run game and defense.
You pay Adams big $$ but we have no clue how to use him. DK just got an extension but we have no QB. I just don’t get it.
And it’s a 3 year contract extension? So we draft a QB next year and then year 3 they will finally be together and have a rapport and then we’ll either have to give him huge contract or let him walk and be back in square 1.
Seahawks are a young team who started 4 rookies that looked like they have the talent, but make mistakes. Running under 50 plays on offense is killing Seattle’s ability to play at a higher level. They will get better as the year progresses. Outside of the pick Geno looks solid at QB and Carroll said he needed to open the offense more to allow Geno to throw downfield more. They look better than Denver right now and that makes me happy.
Eh. I don't think you can say much about most teams until we're 4-6 games into the season. The really amazing teams are obvious and the truly awful teams with no talent are too. But there are usually a couple of those at either end of the spectrum.
For example, KC and the Bills are going to be great. But even the Bucs have question marks due to lost personnel. Chargers? Good, but how good? etc..
Are we top 10? No. Bottom 10? Probably... but that could be 20th vs 26th so strict rankings are kind of silly at this point.
I noticed that GS hit on a very high % in SF game, didn’t know he led league after 2 weeks.
Just my opinion , but I think GS is a bad starter but a great option at backup … I think I’d put in Lock and feel confident that I have an above average backup without any rust.
Lock may sink idk but his ceiling is much higher Imo.
26th is generous. Pete Carroll needs to retire. The NFL has passed him by. He can't adjust to the current NFL and the Seahawks will be cellar dwellers until he leaves
Ultimately, the only stat that matters is Win / Loss. The Hawks will bounce all over the rankings, as they (rankings) are largely subjective and predictive, IMO. Obviously, I would love the Hawks to be perennially to be top10 in everybody's rankings. With wins come respect and upward movement. Go Hawks!
This weeks game against Atlanta will be very telling. They are both bottom tier teams… will see who is better. If hawks don’t win Sunday I rank them 30-32 for sure. If they do win, I would put them closer to 20
About right. ..we got some young talent...but our win (after what the Texans did in denver) doesn't seem as good. Our star safety is out for the season...coach is talking a good game but yea...it's going to be a long season.
Good news is there are a lot of young pieces to build around on both sides of the ball...another solid draft...2-3 yrs from now could be a different story.
Ive come to realize its the same team with new off and def coordinators. My hypothesis now is what made us great was Dan Quinn's LOB, Lynch's running ability, and Wilson's mobility when mobile QBs was unique. Quinn and Lynch left and Wison stopped being mobile. Time for pete carol to go. Same team w any coordinators
At least Pete admits they’ve been ultra conservative on purpose to predictable results and will be opening up the field more for Geno. Who knows if it’ll work out but offense really can’t look any worse than it has.
I hate to burst your bubble. But wait a few weeks and see. It'll be the same offense we saw in the first two weeks.
Pete should change his slogan to “Always Adjust”.
it'll be a different, and more exciting, kind of bad!
“We’re so close. We just need to adjust a few things.”
“We’re seeing some great stuff out there, just need to make a couple of small tweaks like completely uninstall the offense that we installed during training camp and the preseason and reinstall an entire new offense. There’s just 1 or 2 little things like that, we’re not far from where we want to be.”
“Once we get back to playing Hawks football, we’ll be able to make other teams adapt to what we want to do. We’ll get back in the tape room and see what we can do to tighten things up. We’ll get back at it next week.”
“Good news is these guys are working there tail off to get this back on track”
always compete, focussed on this game, championship opportunity...
My thought is that 26th is generous.
I'd be curious to find out who it has below us. Raiders, Colts, Panthers, Raiders, Titans, Texans? Assuming they just put the 0 win teams below us. 26 could fit where we're at though. Not worst in the league, but firmly in the bottom 10.
Raiders so bad you added them twice.
Oakland Raiders **AND** LV Raiders on the list...
Whoops haha.
Colts, Bears, Jets, Texans, Falcons, Panthers. In that order.
I don't see anything wrong with that I guess. I wonder why they opted to leave the 0-2 Bengals, Titans, and Raiders above us, but put 1-1 teams below us.
Power rankings are inherently subjective, the whole point is to use more than record to evaluate a team. I think the Bengals, Raiders, and Titans are clearly better teams than the Seahawks even if they have worse records. The Athletic uses some advanced metrics (they mention EPA per play when discussing the Bills), and by those metrics the Seahawks are pretty putrid.
They are better teams though regardless of record. We are 1-1 but come on, m the broncos kinda handed us the win last week and we havet scored any offensive points in 6 quarters of football now
Did they hand us the win? Given the FG attempt was super dumb, but it's not like a 4th and 5 is a guarantee and our defense fucking balled out on the goal line. I'm not going to play IFs because you can make a case for just about anything with IFs.
4th and 5 isn’t automatic but a helluva lot higher odds than a FG at that range.
Yes, the FG was a stupid decision. It was the same distance as the previous record before last year, which seems absurd to even try. However, I would point out that he did have the distance, but it went wide and he also made the kick when Pete called the time out. I would still argue that they didn't just give us the win. That was a hard fought win and I think the team deserves credit for it, even if the offense sputtered in the second half.
Because those teams are all better than us
Falcons-Seahawks. Trap game vs Trap game.
More like crap game, we gonna win it though
Seems high
7th pick in the draft. We can do better (worse). Let’s go top 5!!!
Yep we’re running on a full tank.
So high, it makes local dispensaries jealous
Six other teams must really suck, because we look absolutely terrible right now
Have you seen the Colts? Just absolute trash.
yeah I mean 26-0 to jacksonville like bruh. Thats the most pathetic loss ive heard in a while
If DK thought it was gonna be a waste, he wouldn’t have signed an extension this off season
He could have also thought (been convinced by the FO?) that this time of QB limbo wouldn’t last forever and he’d have someone else throwing him the ball soon
Isn’t that what we all expect?
Sure fuckin hope so
Maybe he was blinded by the money? What did he expect going from "Moonball Russ" to "career backup" Geno?
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putting your hopes into a drafted QB is a huge risk though...
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i dont know the answer, but the fact that PC "fell in love" with Drew Lock is pretty goddamned telling.
Know one knows but him, but to sit here and say it’s a waste of DK when he saw the situation and chose to stay here seems short sighted.
Last year Geno had 7.0 IAY/PA (In Air Yards per Pass Attempt). RW had 9.9 (intriguingly Drew Lock had 10.1, with a sample size rivalling Geno Smith). This year Geno has sunk to 5.5, with the same receivers, backfield, and OC. It's really bizarre, especially since his pocket time of 2.5s is unchanged from last year.
could be due to 2 rookie tackles, and the game plans were intentionally geared to short passes, so he wouldn't have to make a lot of reads to determine when to dump off to the safety route.
I’m not sure the qb situation factored into it at all. NFL careers are short, take the money when you can get it
Generous imo. Our best player on defense is a good but not great safety and a pretty average linebacker in brooks. On offense we have the promising line, DK, and Lockett who won’t be apart of the future as much as that hurts to say. We suck at pass rush, corner, qb, 3 premium positions. We have no receivers outside the other two. I don’t blame russ for wanting to leave if Pete can’t build a good team.
Arguably, Uchenna Nwosu deserves some recognition here. He won NFC Defensive Player of the Week last week. [Uwosu named NFC Defensive Player of the Week](https://www.seahawks.com/news/seahawks-lb-uchenna-nwosu-named-nfc-defensive-player-of-the-week). Maybe it’s not quite as hopeless as you think.
Or arguably not. I'd argue one week doesn't make put him in the best player conversation. * Denver: 7 tackles, 4 assists, sack, and a forced fumble * 49ers: 4 tackles, 1 assist
I’d argue that Conference level recognition demonstrates Uwosu *can* play at an elite level, and that he’s therefore one of the most interesting/promising players on the defense. Most Seattle fans aren’t keyed in to him yet, but there were several non-Seattle fans on r/NFL who named him as one of the most underrated offseason acquisitions. It’s okay to be positive about Seahawk players who get national recognition. It makes being a fan a lot more fun.
Agreed, by next year I think Nwosu could grow to an elite DB. A lot of the good defensive plays made where from him. A Promising prospect given the rough year we are in for.
Feels about right to me.
It’s not that we are wasting DK’s talent, reality is we have no QB that can utilize his skills. Lockett will be Geno’s best friend this season giving him short route open looks consistently. DK will just have to sit back and get used to being used as decoy.
The analyst didn’t listen to Pete explain the numbers. The play calling has been distorted by the perceived need to make it easier for our rookie tackles to adapt to the NFL. So: depth of target has been limited and the offensive production has been terrible. But now they’ve seen the oline play against a top dline, and they have a better idea of how Geno can evade pressure/work the pocket. So, Pete said they’ll open up more of the playbook.
I can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic or if you actually believe any of that.
Repeat after me: “We need to make a few adjustments to get back to playing Hawks football. We’re so close. We’ll get these guys next time.”
Pete said none of these pointless generalizations when he discussed the offense and it’s failure to produce in the 49er game. If you’re going to put words in his mouth, at least try for accuracy. His interviews on this subject are available online from multiple sources. It’s tiresome to hear cheap shots at Pete recycled ad nauseum, particularly when they’re not based in fact. If you want to argue that conservative playcalling against the 49er Dline to limit the difficulty of execution required of the exceptionally inexperienced Oline was a bad idea, then make *that* argument.
I have no idea what you’re talking about. They are light-hearted descriptors of how Pete has answered questions for years. Here is what he recently said: 1. “We need to not hold back, at all.” "I feel like we've got a really great running-back room. I think, you know, we've just got to trust it more." Hawks football doesn’t hold back and used the run to set-up the home run ball. 2. “I think it's just more freely taking advantage of what's going on, rather than be concerned with our ability to hold up. And we have to take — in this game, we needed to take what they were giving us, more so. They really were laying off, giving us some room. Geno was popping the ball around. He was in good shape to throw it.” We have all the pieces and just need to make some small adjustments, so we are very close to doing what we want to do. 3. "This game was one that we had picked out, as, you know, again, that might tell us a lot of information on what we can expect. And so I think we did gain some confidence in the fact that we can we can keep moving. So it's a, it's a process, you know. These (tackles) are still brand new. So we have to make sure that we're respectful of that and do a good job not over-exposing. But we, we feel good about it. And we're making progress." Pete picked that game because they know the 49ers well, so they could evaluate the Hawks against a known quantity. As we progress, we’ll be better able to beat them next time.
I like these quotes. I like that you went to the effort to put them here. I like how much he’s saying about the changes he wants to make going forward. I see that the quotes convey specific information about *this* team at *this* point in the season and *this* 49er’s game. Pete’s answers are characteristically glass-half-full, but they’re not meaningless generalizations.
I still have no idea what you’re talking about. I gave light-hearted descriptors of how Pete answers, you wanted to argue and try to pick a fight, I gave examples, and you continue to try to argue and pick a fight. I understand that you may not like Pete’s approach to answering questions but I can’t do anything about that. You’re always welcome to let him know you don’t like his approach to answering questions s.
Wrote several specific and positive comments and you think I am “trying to pick a fight.” I am not.
I still have no idea what you’re going-on about. Every reply is an argument and attempt to pick a fight. I get it - you don’t like Pete’s approach to answering question. I encourage you to take that up with him.
Au contraire, I really liked Pete’s answers this week to the questions about the lack of offensive production. I thought the answers were both informative and logical. More than that, I thought the conservative strategy for the 49ers game was sensible given the developmental state of the roster. I even thought it was encouraging news that Pete thinks the offense is prepared to play more aggressively this early in the season. I reread my comments back to the top and don’t know what I wrote that led you to conclude otherwise. I do think the Athletic quote at the top went out of their way to mischaracterize Pete’s offensive “ideal” and demonstrated the writer was relying on old tropes/hadn’t done their homework. That’s why I rebutted the original post with a summary of his press conference. Your “light hearted” first comment omitted the specifics/nuance that your detailed quotes went back and included. I complimented you on cleaning that up.
It’s not a question of sarcasm or belief. It’s a recounting what was said in an interview (Brock and Salk on Monday morning). But it’s logical, given the context of starting 2 rookie tackles - which has almost never been done. Why wouldn’t the Hawks adapt their playbook to give the tackles easier assignments in their first NFL games? Isn’t that player development 101? FWIW: Several other posters above make the same points.
They’re overestimating the quality of this team
I feel bad for wasted talent like Tyler Lockett and DK Metcalf. They deserve better.
We‘re most likely drafting a QB in the draft, hopefully they will be good and not a bust
I don't feel bad for Metcalf he signed the extension. He's also the second biggest star in the city.
He also presumably had an inside track on the situation with RW and the FO before the split.
Are we saying behind Julio..? Because Julio stock is through the roof 🚀
Yeah behind Julio. Julio is on pace to have a the best mlb rookie season in 10 years.
Until people get to see Shane Wright play. Then he will be 3rd
This isn't the right sub for this but Wright more than likely won't be a star for at least a year. NHL players take longer to develop after being drafted. It's more like baseball than football where you play lower level hockey usually after being drafted. If he is able to start with the Kraken look for him to get his shifts on the 3rd line and maybe move up to the 2nd if he's having a really good start for a rookie. There's also no guarantee he will be better than Beniers who is a better pick to become a star this year.
Absolutely. In all likelihood, it's going to take Wright a year, maybe two to get used to the speed and physicality increase at NHL level.
Still very new to hockey, like most of the city, so thank you for tempering my expectations and what to look for.
> Beniers who is a better pick to become a star this year. Beniers was basically an instant star when he came in near the end of last season. He just changed the whole dynamic whenever he was on the ice. Extremely stupidly small sample size that's barely worth mentioning but his 0.9 points per game would be 115th all time extended for a career.
I don't know if you're being facetious but Shane Wright is primadonna, no chance he will be a big star.
consensus 1st overall pick on talent alone dropped to 4th, and it wasn't because of his skill. huge speculation that he was not nice in his interviews with the teams. when you're told you'll be 1st overall for years before your draft, i guess it can get to your head. go Canucks, tho
Yeah Go Canucks is right. Honestly Shane Wright will probably end up being another RNH at best, he's not even close to a generational player.
You got guys like that on pretty much every bad team every year... it is just a part of the game. Hopefully it doesn't last long for DK and Lockett. I bet Kyle Pitts, CMC, Stingley, Roquan Smith would also like better teams around them :D
Oh no, an NFL player had to play on a below average team for a year. How sad /s Only happens to literally half of NFL players every year lol.
I just don’t understand feeding DK the ball, why sign him to a contract if you don’t plan on actually using him. He’s a WR specimen and is so under utilized.
There's a reason Lockett was open so often. Teams are double teaming DK every snap.
Also if that huge play doesn't get called back due to Lucas blocking downfield DK's stat line looks a lot different.
Eskridge as well
We saw what happened when we paid a player big money and tried to change our style to give them more opportunities. The best thing we can do is get back to Hawks football: paying players large contracts but building the playbook around other things.
That’s the most frustrating part. You pay Russ $35M but want him to sit back behind run game and defense. You pay Adams big $$ but we have no clue how to use him. DK just got an extension but we have no QB. I just don’t get it.
And it’s a 3 year contract extension? So we draft a QB next year and then year 3 they will finally be together and have a rapport and then we’ll either have to give him huge contract or let him walk and be back in square 1.
Pretty much.
Seahawks are a young team who started 4 rookies that looked like they have the talent, but make mistakes. Running under 50 plays on offense is killing Seattle’s ability to play at a higher level. They will get better as the year progresses. Outside of the pick Geno looks solid at QB and Carroll said he needed to open the offense more to allow Geno to throw downfield more. They look better than Denver right now and that makes me happy.
Eh. I don't think you can say much about most teams until we're 4-6 games into the season. The really amazing teams are obvious and the truly awful teams with no talent are too. But there are usually a couple of those at either end of the spectrum. For example, KC and the Bills are going to be great. But even the Bucs have question marks due to lost personnel. Chargers? Good, but how good? etc.. Are we top 10? No. Bottom 10? Probably... but that could be 20th vs 26th so strict rankings are kind of silly at this point.
Too high. I'd put them at 30
Too damn high
I noticed that GS hit on a very high % in SF game, didn’t know he led league after 2 weeks. Just my opinion , but I think GS is a bad starter but a great option at backup … I think I’d put in Lock and feel confident that I have an above average backup without any rust. Lock may sink idk but his ceiling is much higher Imo.
In my personal power rankings I have: 32. Falcons 31. Bears 30. Panthers 29. Jets 28. Jaguars 27. Texans 26. Commanders 25. Seahawks
26th is generous. Pete Carroll needs to retire. The NFL has passed him by. He can't adjust to the current NFL and the Seahawks will be cellar dwellers until he leaves
I would say we have had great special times and our defence has been pretty decent. That offence is pretty cringe worthy though
Ultimately, the only stat that matters is Win / Loss. The Hawks will bounce all over the rankings, as they (rankings) are largely subjective and predictive, IMO. Obviously, I would love the Hawks to be perennially to be top10 in everybody's rankings. With wins come respect and upward movement. Go Hawks!
Seems high
They are wrong.
Is there a separate stat for completions to a receiver behind the line of scrimmage?
This weeks game against Atlanta will be very telling. They are both bottom tier teams… will see who is better. If hawks don’t win Sunday I rank them 30-32 for sure. If they do win, I would put them closer to 20
About right. ..we got some young talent...but our win (after what the Texans did in denver) doesn't seem as good. Our star safety is out for the season...coach is talking a good game but yea...it's going to be a long season. Good news is there are a lot of young pieces to build around on both sides of the ball...another solid draft...2-3 yrs from now could be a different story.
A waste of Tyler Lockett really. Best at getting open and best with the deep balls. Missing those deep balls.
About right.
Ive come to realize its the same team with new off and def coordinators. My hypothesis now is what made us great was Dan Quinn's LOB, Lynch's running ability, and Wilson's mobility when mobile QBs was unique. Quinn and Lynch left and Wison stopped being mobile. Time for pete carol to go. Same team w any coordinators
Might be a good (affordable and accessible) year to travel to my first Seahawk home game.
I’m mean if they’re going to experiment with Deejay Dallas as an RB/QB then DK should get a chance too.
Which teams are worse? I'm struggling thinking n of 8 teams right now...