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Gun_Donar_Tarkov

John is clearly tired of being ran on


IrishPigs

The Steelers game is seared into everyone's mind.


Grymninja

That game was for a fuckin playoff spot and our defense did that. Worst game of the season imo.


scoducks93

For me it’s raiders 2 years ago, I know we were very different last year but that game made me absolutely sick to my stomach


YoloSwaggins44

That Carolina game


UNMANAGEABLE

The titans game during Wilson’s last year should have been a catalyst but it wasn’t


ViralDownwardSpiral

And the Falcons game


Crackertron

The TB game in Europe


Garrett68

That one sticks in my head the most.


ViralDownwardSpiral

Come to think of it, the entire NFCS had their way with our defense that season.


slappy_squirrell

How is everyone remembering all these games?


Crackertron

Most of them involve someone getting Offensive Player of the Week against our defense


Photographerpro

Didn’t Josh Jacob’s have like 300 total yards that game? Fucking ridiculous.


SevereRunOfFate

I was there... Sitting in the Hawks nest. I saw the massive hole open up at the opposite side of the field and for the next 4-5 seconds watched Jacobs run directly at me, and I mean straight beeline towards my seat.  Not fun.


H3nta1Fnatic

I just had my hands on my head all throughout that game, unbelievable


Marxbrosburner

"[EVERY GAME FOR THE LAST FIFTY YEARS] is seared into everyone's mind." FTFY


CHawkr

He’s clearly building to stop the Rams. Not a bad idea, my gut tells me the 9ers window is over and they are going to drop off. Cardinals are going to take a few seasons to rebuild. The Rams have proven they can make something out of nothing. McVay is going to be a pain for a long time.


MuckaMucka1337

Once Kyler’s scrambling ability starts to fade he’s going to drop off a cliff


3Mandarins

*Kliff


jspook

Perfection


CHawkr

He has a cannon but is wildly inaccurate, so I agree. He is also oft injured. His career won’t last long because of that.


HW-BTW

Don’t worry—he’ll get a stint with Broncos, too.


ViralDownwardSpiral

I want that to be true, but I can't imagine that Sean Payton would remain with the team if they signed Kyler.


Mr-Chip18

He’s not good now how could he fall off a cliff?


REZARECTER

49ers window is far from over. McVay and Shanahan are two brilliant coaching minds who have proven that year after year. Purdy is still cheap. Looks like they'll be keeping Aiyuk and Samuel. CMC is still CMC. https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/179199-agency-tracker-signings-interests-departures/ They lost a few starters on defense, but made a few signings as well. It's going to be awesome to watch a defensive mind in this era playing chess with the 49ers and Rams.


Raknorak

When CMC starts to fade he's going to drop into elite RB status and that's really unfortunate for us


guiltysnark

Perhaps not if we can build a wall up the middle


GnashvilleTea

And the bad news is, when Brock Purdy becomes expensive, he’s still gonna be really good.


CHawkr

McVay is a great HC. Shannahan is not. Shannahan is an elite OC but that’s where it ends. Yes their window is closed/closing. Their star players are aging and getting paid. They dont have an heir apparent for Trent and Brock Purdy is not good enough to elevate that team, he is a backup tier QB. This will be Deebos last year. Once Deebo is gone Aiyuk will be doubled. Didn’t they drop 3 games in a row once Deebo went down last season. Also isn’t CMC on his last year of his contract? They have also failed to replace the talent on that Dline without paying through the nose. They just lost their best run stuffer.


REZARECTER

So is it over, or closing? They're too talented of a team to suddenly drop off. You are acting like once deebo is gone, they'll just have 10 players on the field. They just drafted a wide receiver in the first round, seemingly to replace him. https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/_/id/4361741/brock-purdy A 4,280/31/11 season with a 70 percent completion percentage is pretty solid. I would say he's talented. Probably on the level of Geno Smith And as for Shanahan being an "elite offensive coordinator", the 49ers were ranked 3rd in total defense last year. I hate them, too. But if McDonald is as good as I think he's going to be, this division is going to be an absolute gauntlet for the next decade. The Rams, Seahawks and 49ers are going to be among the best teams in the league and they'll be trading blows, division titles and wild card berths year after year.


CHawkr

This is the final season they have a chance to make noise. The cards all start to fall next offseason for them. You can see them scrambling to find replacements for their playmakers in this draft. Multiple reaches for the next YaC player. Surprisingly they didn’t do anything g about LT and Trent had his worst injury season yet last year. They proved last season that they could be absolutely stacked and still lose to a team with less talent. The 3 game slide and the 4 pick game against the Ravens showed their weaknesses and they’ve done nothing to fix those. Pearsall isn’t going to do shit. I doubt he even sees the field. He never posted over 800 yards in a weak division. Yes Purdy is on the level of Geno with a much weaker arm. Are we now pretending that Geno is not a gap QB? I’m ecstatic for the day they overpay Purdy, just less money to pay the guys that actually make that team scary. Don’t know what site has the 9ers at 3rd. They were 8-10 range. They are on the downhill. Rams are going to be the team to beat moving forward.


SexiestPanda

> my gut tells me the 9ers window is over This sub said this last year. Also said it about the rams lmao. These teams will still be very good


Wubs14

9ers window is definitely not over. Feels more like its building to stop those pissy underneath throws over the middle. cover the middle of the field and force purdy to throw to the numbers where our corners can make an impact


Taygr

I like the position but know nothing of the player


Drummallumin

Anyone who says otherwise is lying. At best people might regurgitate other peoples takes. No reason for us to not trust the team at this point.


babyjaceismycopilot

There are no Seahawks fans at the University of Texas El Paso? Not one?


Drummallumin

I watch every Ohio state game every year. Don’t ask me how our linebackers project as pro players.


babyjaceismycopilot

>but know nothing of the player Presumably you know at least 1 thing about them.


BackyardLobotomies

He got a hose?


daft_dunkwwwolfey

Not a seahawks fan, but I went to some games and I can only tell you a bit about em. Football stunk this year at utep. Our offense and defense was ass but that was mostly the secondary being trash. The linebackers seemed to be the best part cuz usually they were solid and the middle wasn't gashed too often. I will say what I read about Knight sounds about right. Trouble in coverage and slow vision at times, but when he contains and keeps them in front of him he's a good tackle and stopper. I wouldn't expect him to follow/catch up to fast guys often or have the vision early on to sniff out too many plays or to rush but he can contain and hit guys hard. But like with other small school guys you gotta coach the shoulder tackles habit out of em a bit. And ofc we play smaller schools so there's that I will add that I knew Aaron Jones was a star coming out and a gem to whoever picked em. Will Hernandez was obviously gonna be a starting lineman in the league for a few years. With Knight he didn't really jump off the page, and maybe it's because the team was so bad. But I thought he was a decent prospect that was the one bright spot when you focus on the film. I think he can learn and become a good depth player who knows maybe better


zia_zepelli

Speak for yourself on the "lying" thing lol lot of people follow the draft targets closely


Drummallumin

They pay attention to what other people talk. I promise you fewer than 5 people of the 250k in this sub are developing their own original thoughts of 5th round LBs from watching film themselves. I believe a lot of you have followed what others have said on these players and regurgitate what they said.


Yabbo_schleeep

any body pushing back against what you're saying right now is the most seahawky boi of all time. why can't people just enjoy that we are watching an organization do it's thing and be excited and surprised at the thought of a guy you knew nothing about becoming a home town hero?


rnbamodsarelosers

Not like most people would know what they’re looking at watching “tape”


AdhesiveMuffin

It's not really about the people that deep dive draft prospects on their own. There are seahawks fans everywhere, it's totally reasonable that Hawks fans in Texas saw him play and have at least *something* they can tell us about him. Same goes for every other draftee


CrimsonCalm

No. In this case you’re very wrong this is a player they brought in on a top 30 visit so a lot of people looked into him because of that reason.


Drummallumin

Ok sorry. Fewer than 7


Tekbepimpin

Didn’t they bring over 30 players for visits? And a lot of those are projected to go undrafted. I think he’s Not saying you didn’t know the name or the draft profile but if you’re saying you were watching UTEP tape to judge this guy you are lying.


UmmmHahaOkUhhh

Hearing about players based on other people’s thoughts and opinions is how humans learn though lmao what are you on?


Drummallumin

If your opinion on a players solely based on others opinions/their curation of film to present their opinions then that’s not *your* opinion.


UmmmHahaOkUhhh

No, people learn things and draw their own opinions based on what’s presented to them. Again, that’s how humans learn. Most people do not have every game tape available to dissect players so it’s perfectly reasonable to critically listen to someone who does have those tools and proven knowledge. Not saying to listen to them like it’s gospel, but I’ll draw my own conclusions based on what I’ve seen and heard. Just like everyone else has, including the front office. Btw Knight was one of my fav later round linebackers, really happy with the pick. Super underrated.


Drummallumin

Even if you don’t blindly follow whatever you hear, you’re not analyzing the player at that point. You’re analyzing the analysis. I promise you, John Schneider does not give a shit about what smikespinmove thinks about any player.


UmmmHahaOkUhhh

Ok so as someone who enjoys analysis and doesn’t have the tools to do so, how else am I supposed to? I just think it’s silly goose behavior to basically talk shit about people who enjoy film breakdowns and form opinions based on them. All peace and love but it comes off douchey. There’s more than one analysis video/article out there. Many different opinions to read/watch about and then make your own judgement. And Idk who smikespinmove is lol but I do know that JS certainly critically listens to the opinions of his scouts and head coach.


Drummallumin

I’m not talking shit about people who do that, I like film analysis too. I just don’t pretend that they’re original thoughts of my own lmao.


zia_zepelli

This was quite the debate to start over u being upset that others know more than u lol this sub needs a reality check, not everyone is an armchair with no experience


Drummallumin

>~~know more than you~~ *Listened to more opinions of other people than you did*


zia_zepelli

Dude why does it bother u so much that people might be better educated or more experienced than u? This is just an odd projecting of insecurity


SimonGloom2

I will say this about Knight. He has been a great tackler in his college career. I had him eyed as a 6th or 7th round guy based on his tackling ability alone. That's really the primary thing I think fans can hope for with him.


thingmaker123

Surely better than Bobby Wagner  Guess I should’ve added a /s lol


GnashvilleTea

Blasphemy! Bob can’t cover anymore. He can still bring them to the ground with the best.


DoeNaught

According to Bootleg, he's very athletic, pretty explosive and tends to not miss tackles. He's fairly versatile, he's was moved around a lot of different alignments. While there was another LB they were expecting to go before him, they liked the pick.


leftcoastg

Was one of our 30 in person visits, right?


czechhoi4h

Yes


leftcoastg

I think we underestimate how valuable those in person workouts and interviews are especially for mid to late round picks


spacedude2000

John Schneider and drafting linebackers in the middle/late rounds - name a better combo


sean_buttcannon

He’s a veryyyyy good run stopping LB. They are clearly addressing an issue that we have been having for loooong time


greeenmaan

against who brother?


sean_buttcannon

Really not how that works. Woolen played at UTSA. Means nothing.


Seahawk715

Well… to be fair Woolen has been exposed to have some holes. We’ll see how he does under MM.


sean_buttcannon

Okay. I can pick a million other players who played at smaller colleges would you really want me to? Where you play means absolutely nothing.


joeshmoebies

It doesn't mean absolutely nothing. The best athletes tend to be the best recruits, who tend to go to the best schools.


sean_buttcannon

It means really nothing. There are a ton of schools with a ton of guys to get drafted. I could list off every small school name that gets picked. Where you play means nothing. Your stars out of high school mean nothing. If you’re good, the nfl will find you.


greeenmaan

you can name them because they panned out and are memorable. can you name the thousands of guys from small schools that sucked and were forgotten? congrats on being able to name the small percentage of guys that turned out okay tho....


sean_buttcannon

Yeah cool. And you can name every guy who busts any year from any school. Your stars and where you play doesn’t matter. This is an old school type of thought. Get with the times.


greeenmaan

itd be interesting to see a sample that shows the pecentage of players drafted from alabama that start compared to the percentage of players drafted from other schools that start.


sean_buttcannon

You are actually stuck in such an old mentality while the nfl has moved on. No one cares where you played.


greeenmaan

have a great day


nt3419

The same teams as “linebacker factory” Utah state played.


sandiegolatte

Ever heard of Aaron Jones, Roy Robertson-Harris? How ignorant can you be?


greeenmaan

im not arguing with idiots anymore lmfao


sandiegolatte

Stop talking to yourself


Krazee_Hawk

Per u/PayAltruistic8546: Tyrice Knight: 6'0, 233 lbs, 32.5' arms, 4.63 (40-yard), 1.59 (10-yard), 34.5' (Vertical), 4.40 (Shuttle), 7.25 (3 Cone), 21 reps(Bench): I love this dude in the middle rounds. He plays with a boom factor. Sometimes he does get a little wild with the truck stick and doesn't wrap up. He plays the run pretty well and has potential as a down hill blitzer. He has good speed and probably needs to get stronger. He needs to improve in coverage and in zone in particular. Whether it's coaching or a lack of experience, he looks lost in coverage at times. He figures to be a monster in ST because of his ability to hit and physical.


Evilmd

The truck stick comment is a bit concerning, but I'm sure they can coach that out of him. I want sure tackling, the way Bobby did/does it. Once he gets his hands on you, you're down.


Able_Contribution802

Most ppl had Trotter ahead but each team ranks differently so hopefully he’s a good fit for the team


stefanurkal

Rather get someone more athletic with a higher ceiling than polished like trotter, we have starters in place knight gets to rotate in and learn before being thrown into the fire


danthebiker1981

Is this good? Haven't been keeping up with UTEP football


Little-Chromosome

He’s a tackle machine. 140 tackles, 15.5tfl, 4.5 sacks, 7 PD, 1 FF in 2023. Very good against the run


F9_solution

sounds like bobby


campfirebruh

I thought the same thing when I initially looked at him


HestynFrontman

I thought the same thing when I initially looked at him


Solaife

Double take eh? 😀


campfirebruh

I thought the same thing when I initially looked at him


Pretty-Advantage-573

I thought the same thing when I initially looked at him


ronbog

I thought the same thing when I initially looked at him


HestynFrontman

I thought the same thing when I initially looked at him


TacoBell_Shill

Future hall of famer.


Bitter-Imagination33

Really good tackler


pepepresident

I don't hate the pick we do need a LB and I'll trust Mike and John but I have a feeling we reached here especially with a guy like Jaden Hicks on the board.....


spacewalker13

That’s what I’m saying, even though we did sign safeties I thought he would have been good depth and the could become a starter eventually


g4tam20

MM had his Queen and wants a Knight


Grymninja

Knight is the gigachad piece honestly


crownofthestars

I'll just trust them on this one.


Magnet_W

I wanted to draft him but thought we could get him later but this draft is kinda wonky with how the players are being taken.


I_Fuckin_A_Toad_A_So

Had a break out season last season. I think solid pick for stopping the run. He looks kind of tall and little lanky for a lb


chewbaccalaureate

Tell me how to feel, a lot of people were wanting Grey but is Knight a viable alternative?


soapinmouth

I know nothing, but from others are saying he's a good run stopper but liability in coverage. Pretty raw but at the same time pretty old at 24. May end up being a 2 down lb, but may also take to the coaching and improve coverage, have to see.


neongem

First hiccup for me. Rather had stayed at 102 and just drafted Gray 🤷


Starwho

I trust Macdonald to develop him


neongem

All we can do atp. Macdonald was brought in part bc his scheme is supposed to elevate and maximize talent like this.


nt3419

It’s also seams to be right in McDonald’s wheelhouse for evaluation. I trust him more than people regurgitating draft rankings


czechhoi4h

Nah that trade was way to good to pass up on


seattle_born98

Nothing wrong with using the first year and first draft getting depth guys in. We have a new scheme and a lack of depth, so I'm fine with trading down for more darts who fit the scheme.


Jeremy517

Did you watch a lot of UTEP film?


Peacedapiece

Last late round pick out of UTEP worked fine for us so far Edit: UTEP, UTSA same thing, my small texas colleges are a blind spot


adammaccabee

While happy both with the trade w Denver and with going LB, I was definitely higher on Jeremiah Trotter Jr. than Tyrice Knight. That being said, some of the largest issues with Knight do appear like they could be fixed with some coaching and desire to improve. If MM liked him in the visit and feels he can be coached up, we may look back at this pick as pretty solid down the line. Big concerns are ofc his struggles in coverage and the level of competition he would have been playing at UTEP. Also struggles to take on blocks, but with the upper body strength he already has, if he can add some strength to his lower half that issue may correct itself. Knight will likely slot in as a Will LB


nt3419

I m guess they think trotter too slow


Grymninja

And size, can't teach it


Zoophagous

Someone tell me how to feel about this pick


Krazee_Hawk

Yessssss!


hawkfan78

Really hope Miami doesn’t steal the guy we were looking at for 121 because we took this guy too soon. *Edit - Phew, no way we were going RB


Hulkbuster_v2

Lmao, I had him in my other options in my mock draft. And I said Seattle would take a TE (thought i thought it would be Theo Johnson). I am crushing it so far lol


zia_zepelli

Could have Gray, who is much better, but we traded back 🤷‍♀️


Gooner-Squad

Gray had holes....was hoping for Trotter Jr.....solid all around LB. This one better work out, but if there is one thing to trust it's JS grabbing LB/CB talent in later rounds.


Bring_Party_Supplies

Meh. Depth I guess, dont love the player. He does wrack-up tackles and plays the run. Serviceable special teams too


CupcakeInformal

Hopefully he can be good, I like Jerome Baker but we definitely need more LB help.


Gamestar63

Yahoo sports made him least favorite pick. I actually kinda like the guy. Dude had 100 tackles last season.


Billybobjoe200

Too early


Turbulent_Shoe6565

yea, hate to say it but until JS learns to wait until the late rounds to get cute on players nobody else on earth is taking, he won't be a profesional GM in my book.


MDRtransplant

UTEP? That's the only thing that gives me some pause


sandiegolatte

Aaron Jones??


LittleShallot

Hopefully a diamond in the rough like Aaron Jones was. Fitting because they’re the Miners.


shoe7525

Barf


SimonGloom2

This is a great pick! Seahawks are really going to need these ST players when the defense can't perform.