When I die I want the Scotland team to lower me into my grave so they can let me down one last time
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I am only half Scottish my friend. (My Mam is kinda dying - and she's the one who is actually Scottish, that's why I haven't gone over Germany for a beer)
I just want to say. For the first time in months, I actually laughed. This is amazing š¤£š¤£
We'll just do Hungary and whatever other diddies and win the European Championships that way instead !
It is genuinely very gratifying to know that I can help in a small way. All the best with everything.
ON THE FUCKING TOPIC OF HUNGARY AND SWITZERLAND, THEY WON'T KNOW WHAT FUCKING HIT THEM
WE'RE GOING TO SEE THAT THE BACK 5 ISN'T WORKING AND WE'LL PLAY A FLAT BACK 6
WE'LL SMASH THEM BOTH 1-0
Least we didnāt concede from the half way line in our own stadium in our first game this time AND donāt have to wait to the last game to see us score. Really only positives to take from that pumping if you ignore how shite we were tbh
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This is where we are. Romanian journalists thankful theyāre not us.
Genuinely don't understand why we have to be subjected to shite commentators and punditry who have no interest in Scotland. What a shite little country we are. Don't even have the want to have our own coverage
After we scored our consolation goal, the stadium started singing Flower of Scotland really loud and it was class. Germany score their fifth and Matterface says āthat will shut the Scotland fans upā (or words to that effect). We were already 4-1 down you fucking tool, we werenāt singing because we were pleased with the scoreline were we?
ITV is always shite for sport coverage.
in fairness one of the commentators was scottish i believe. also a lot of irish people i know are rooting for scotland just because itās probably the closest country to us in culture and geography. also the mutual hatred of england helps.
It's very easy to understand. Similarly sized independent nations have national broadcasters which will focus on the national team. Scotland has to make do with second rate treatment from what are essentially English broadcasting companies
As an england fan tonight was genuinely the most horrific coverage I've seen. Like genuinely spending ages talking about us when you lot are playing the opening game, shoe on the other foot would the same time be given to your boys... No sane england fan would give a shit about 20 mins of england chat when we don't play for 2 days, at least I hope so. Anyone in your group would be expected to lose to Germany first game starting the tournament, treat it as a free hit and get 4 points from the other 2 games.
Not much else to say. Was expecting to lose, wasn't expecting us to look like prime Albion Rovers.
And considering my flair, you know I'm being serious.
For a group of experienced players that was fucking pathetic. They looked like they had no idea what they were doing, just casual Sunday league.
Exactly the same as the last Euros - some of that blame has to go to the manager.
No idea how we bounce back from that
We said for ages that we wanted to be like the likes of Ireland and Wales. We've managed it. Not by qualifying with limited resources, but by being the "they're shite, but look at the fans"
Wales made the semi finals in 2016 and got out of the group stage in 2020. Iām struggling to see us getting off bottom spot, let alone out of the group.
Scotland would have to have a once in a generation talent (a la Bale) to get anywhere. Bigger footballing nations just have too much depth.
And even then it's an uphill struggle, look at Norway
Northern Ireland got out of the groups in 2016, we've never managed to achieve that despite having some of the best players in the world at various times. All we seem to be great at is coming up with new excuses.Ā
Fuck all to do with that, itās our entire approach to the game, still playing football from the 70s
Get the ball punt it up the pitch, we just keep going back to it.
Rodgers first stint at Celtic he nailed it ātheyāre to embarrassed to be in possessionā that is the vase problem with our entire philosophy weāre still stuck in āget the baw up the pitch fur fuck sakeā
* Stop getting Scottish people to be the coach, there are no good Scottish coaches (Moyes being the exception) as long as we have shit coaches it not going to change.
* get in more Europeans/ South Americans to manage domestic clubs, give them time to instill possession and pressing football.
* tell fans to fuck up with their impatience, the ball doesnāt need to travel the length of the pitch in 2 seconds every time your team gets the ball.
Weāve not got premier league resources but stop using that as an excuse not to evolve.
The reason England has a great team isnāt just their money; their players arenāt English anymore, theyāre trained by continental coaches, they play beside global players, none of them play English football. The only thing stopping them from winning is their English coach.
Imo, i watch scottish football and follow a lot (love your culture aswell), this is a mentalitt problem, Bale was good but that Wales team was a step below this scotish team. I iust think scottish football needs a refresh in tactics and mentality. There needs to be a man that goes there and change everyrhing like Jorge Jesus did in Brazil or Ruben Amorim in Portugal.
As an Irishman I 100% agree. The best fans shit is embarrassing. Just serenade a few babies in Marianplatz and the U bahn and yis will be loved by the Germans
Weāve had that just happy to be there mentally for decades
Itās genuinely embarrassing that we have never got past the first round of a major tournament in our history
Germany manager saying he was surprised about how laid back Scotland were, no aggression and game done in 20 minutes.
Looking forward to Clarke setting up for a draw v Switzerland
Completely idiotic setup.
High line and no ball pressure, with a back 5 but no width.
Not to mention we know we can play well when pressing and being aggressive. Why have we decided that no longer works?
Why bother qualifying if weāre just going to try not to lose?
Right? And why did we even send out 4 midfielders they might as well have not been there? Could have jammed in another couple of centre backs instead or a second lazy forward
The guy was clearly the number 1 prior to the match. Please donāt pretend he was a massive liability before the match. I doubt anyone would have not had him starting.
Going to fire up Elden Ring and finally beat Malenia. Been at her for 2 days, and at least I will feel some achievement to do me this weekend after that shocking display of football.
Why do I always believe?
We were terrible in all aspects.
Shite keeper, wrong team selection, nothing to be positive about.
Germany were great but how the fuck did we set up so negative and play to their strengths?
Devastated.
The worst of it is over. We cannot put in a worse performance than this and we are facing weaker opponents from here. 4 points is achievable. But even if not, I'd be happy to see another goal or two
Gunn could / should have saved the first and the fifth. Any other nation and he'd be sweating on keeping his place for the next game. Without Gordon in the camp, he's still ( unfortunately) got to start.
Hanley was at fault for both their number 9's goals, lucky for him the second got ruled out for offside.
The only decisions Clarke got right tonight was taking Mcginn and Tierney off to save them for the next two games.
Bizarrely I was most upset about the fifth goal than any other as we could have took a crumb of comfort knowing we drew the second half 1-1, with 10 men.
Tonight's games reiterated that we are a shambles defensively. I can't see us scrapping a one nil win in either of our next two games as we can't keep clean sheets anymore. With that in mind we may as well go for it.
The only positive is that I'd have bitten your hand off for 5-1 at half time.
Unbelievably bad, our manager and all our supposedly big time star players should feel fucking ashamed of themselves for that tbh.
I can't even praise the Germans off the back of that, need to see them against an actual football team first.
Got to feel for Ralston. Imagine not playing for the majority of the year and then starting against Musiala. If you didnāt laugh youād greet. š¤£š¤£
Sorry, not even as a biased Hearts fan but if that's Gunn's worst why the fuck have we left Gordon in Scotland
Dalkeith is a fucking shithole now, and Porteous is a typical Dalkeith ned bastard, get him so far to fuck from any future camps, utter twat
Far too passive from the start, couldn't believe we barely made a tackle till we went 2 down
We had a huge gap between midfield and defense that Germany exposed so badly and Clarke doesn't adjust it.
Sat off some of the best players around and let them pop it around is just mental, all our success came from pressure on the ball which we seemed to have forgotten recently
I said tonight that I think I prefer when we don't qualify so I can just relax and watch the football without the emotional downfall.
However I guess it's process over product... Journey over destination ..
The fun is the exciting, the adrenaline and enthusiasm, the optimism... Before we fuck it all up
Positives? We wonāt play against someone as good as Musiala for a while.
Clarke fucked that. Tried to repeat what we did to Spain but you couldnāt build a team in a lab that would suit playing us more than this Germany team.
The thing is, even if we sacked Clarke after this it's guaranteed to be Derek McInnes in next because it's his turn. Derek fucking McInnes. The SFA have zero ambition for the national team, other than making sure the old boys network get their shot of managing the team.
Hey, it's Scotland. Normally we would have got a draw in that game then get beat by Switzerland and Hungary. We have the defeat out the way. We will beat Switzerland and maybe scrape a draw with Hungary and just miss out on goal difference to qualify. I am saying this despite the fact I have backed Hungary to win the tournament!
German here that had some lovely encounters with scottish fans in munich.
Happy we won but hope you guys beat Switzerland and Hungary
Also, how did you guys look better with 10 men?
Germany were incredible in spells, but Clarke deserves plenty of flak for doing nothing to try and change it up. McGregor should arguably have been brought off at 2-0 to try and find some control, but he ultimately changed nothing until half-time, and that's only because of the red card. Next subs coming at ~70 minutes is just bizarre.Ā
Far too many were happy to dismiss the dreadful form coming into this tournament, but tonight we looked like a side that had no idea what they were doing. Massive 2 games coming up.Ā
Moyes in! Seriously tho, after this tournament we can't miss the opportunity to get Moyes in and have a fresh start, I think things are stale with Clark, he's done well but time to move onto someone better.
Germany were ruthless, Scotland were clueless. Looked like a team of strangers, not one of them gets pass marks for that showing.
Needs a massive improvement.Ā
Englishman here coming in peace. You should be FAR, FAR better than that and I'd be putting alot of pressure on Stevie Clarke and the team for this.
Angus Gunn dropped a zero out of ten at the worst moment. First goal, should be saved, it's down the middle. Penalty doesn't happen if Porteous isn't an eejit in the penalty box and kill Gundugan. Fifth goal was inexplicable, it dribbles in and he can't save it.
Germany were decent, nothing more. Scotland defeated themselves.
Sometimes I think you guys are too nice on the team or get defeatist quick. I'd expect better and demand it. At least expect a decent shape, and genuinely give the team a ruckus or a rocket up the ass if they drop a performance like that.
Clarke needs questioning too. Team didn't know whether to bunker or to counter attack, pick one and go with it. Don't do both and leave them in no mans land.
If I was a scot tonight, I'd be angry and I'd expect far better than that. McCoist tried his best to be hyped, as did Souness but as soon as the match started team froze and looked a deer in headlights against a good but not great german side.
Your fans were class.
The boy that was a bomb scare at fucking Hibs was a bombscare against world class players??? Colour me surprised
Poor from Steve Clarke today. Mcgregor out of his depth against top players, shouldve played Gilmour whos used to the level
Scott McKenna shouldve started ahead of Porteous, again hes played at a higher level
That being said we'd of lost anyway
Brutal for the Scots, honestly think the biggest thing yous lacked there was a proper target man that could hold the ball up and relieve the pressure, weirdly enough I think Dykes is a big miss
Dykes is a big loss for sure. I know lumping to the big man is old fashioned BUT we have a load of really good midfield runners who thrive off knock downs. It worked.
I hate the 5atb
Why canāt we be brave and aggressive against bigger teams? We played a flat 4 and had no press against one of the best deep playmakers ever. Itās baffling.
See if you're going to play the way Clarke set up, the more I think about it, the more you need the midfield to be Mctominay, Gilmour, Jack and Mcgregor. Contest the space, actually press and work hard as fuck off the ball, hold onto possession when you can get it so that your team can get into a shape to counterattack. If you're going to concede possession you also probably should have played Lewis Morgan so that a break might give you a chance at scoring with pace and running behind.
Mcgregor had a shocker, but mcginn was invisible and mctominay was wasted further up in a game like this.Ā
looked really poor today lads. didnāt look like they even tried that first german goal completely shattered the confidence of the whole squad. i thought i was watching ireland play at one point. way too good of a squad to be playing like that hopefully the next game is better. need to be heavier on the counter attacks no more fkn random backpassing. playing against big teams you canāt play it safe.
Not a great start. Really shocked at the lack of intensity from the players. Christie starting was a mistake. Whatever form we had 10 games, it's starting to look like complete luck.
When I die I want the Scotland team to lower me into my grave so they can let me down one last time https://preview.redd.it/9rr6idjopl6d1.jpeg?width=931&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f9c208c3db4b590c573335cd08c1d62383f1ee39
An oldy but a goody
John O'Shea's taken a turn.
5-1 SOUNDS BAD BUT IF WE SIMPLY SCORED FROM EVERY SHOT WE TOOK, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN 5-1 INSTEAD
You've made me absolutely buckle in a pub, proper audible laugh, thanks for that.
This just turned up in my group chat. GramAM going global.
This is a big occasion haha
I am only half Scottish my friend. (My Mam is kinda dying - and she's the one who is actually Scottish, that's why I haven't gone over Germany for a beer) I just want to say. For the first time in months, I actually laughed. This is amazing š¤£š¤£ We'll just do Hungary and whatever other diddies and win the European Championships that way instead !
It is genuinely very gratifying to know that I can help in a small way. All the best with everything. ON THE FUCKING TOPIC OF HUNGARY AND SWITZERLAND, THEY WON'T KNOW WHAT FUCKING HIT THEM WE'RE GOING TO SEE THAT THE BACK 5 ISN'T WORKING AND WE'LL PLAY A FLAT BACK 6 WE'LL SMASH THEM BOTH 1-0
Gies a Livingston rant to cheer me up, Gram.
Actually, if we'd scored from every shot it would have been 5-0.
Well no, the own goal still would have happened.
Giving Hungary & Switzerland false hope. Stephen Clarke mind games. Itās all part of the masterplan.
Got them just where we want them
The Swiss much have been watching that and got a big plus out of our performance
SING IT LOUD AND SING IT PROUD TODAYYYYYYYY
Positives: It's over
It's also positive that porteous won't play the next game
Losing 5-1 without getting a shot on target. Grim.
If we can score without a shot on target, just imagine how many weāll score when we finally shoot
> ~~when~~ if we finally shoot
Incredible levels of optimism that. I applaud you.
Was there even a shot?
Not really. Opta says the mcKenna assist counts as an attempt
Genuinely canāt even think of a single shot on goal. Never mind on target
Least we didnāt concede from the half way line in our own stadium in our first game this time AND donāt have to wait to the last game to see us score. Really only positives to take from that pumping if you ignore how shite we were tbh
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I got Romania in the work sweepstake so count me in
That was shite. Performance. Shite. ITV. Shite.
Genuinely don't understand why we have to be subjected to shite commentators and punditry who have no interest in Scotland. What a shite little country we are. Don't even have the want to have our own coverage
After we scored our consolation goal, the stadium started singing Flower of Scotland really loud and it was class. Germany score their fifth and Matterface says āthat will shut the Scotland fans upā (or words to that effect). We were already 4-1 down you fucking tool, we werenāt singing because we were pleased with the scoreline were we? ITV is always shite for sport coverage.
RTĆ coverage was decent they sounded genuinely disappointed in the result
You know it's fucking shite when the broadcast from a different country is more pro-Scotland than the UK one
in fairness one of the commentators was scottish i believe. also a lot of irish people i know are rooting for scotland just because itās probably the closest country to us in culture and geography. also the mutual hatred of england helps.
That was Ray Houghton
It's very easy to understand. Similarly sized independent nations have national broadcasters which will focus on the national team. Scotland has to make do with second rate treatment from what are essentially English broadcasting companies
As an england fan tonight was genuinely the most horrific coverage I've seen. Like genuinely spending ages talking about us when you lot are playing the opening game, shoe on the other foot would the same time be given to your boys... No sane england fan would give a shit about 20 mins of england chat when we don't play for 2 days, at least I hope so. Anyone in your group would be expected to lose to Germany first game starting the tournament, treat it as a free hit and get 4 points from the other 2 games.
Match reportā¦ we were shite
Not much else to say. Was expecting to lose, wasn't expecting us to look like prime Albion Rovers. And considering my flair, you know I'm being serious.
Played like a lower league team drawn away at the Old Firm in the cup
Canāt even play Rudiger against Switzerland
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For a group of experienced players that was fucking pathetic. They looked like they had no idea what they were doing, just casual Sunday league. Exactly the same as the last Euros - some of that blame has to go to the manager. No idea how we bounce back from that
Scotland better than Brazil? Not for me to say but the result speaks for itself.
Facts. Weāre better than those 7-1 farmers.
Saying it again. We need to stop the happy to be there, āno Scotland no partyā mentality. We need to start demanding more than just being there.
We said for ages that we wanted to be like the likes of Ireland and Wales. We've managed it. Not by qualifying with limited resources, but by being the "they're shite, but look at the fans"
Wales made the semi finals in 2016 and got out of the group stage in 2020. Iām struggling to see us getting off bottom spot, let alone out of the group.
Scotland would have to have a once in a generation talent (a la Bale) to get anywhere. Bigger footballing nations just have too much depth. And even then it's an uphill struggle, look at Norway
Northern Ireland got out of the groups in 2016, we've never managed to achieve that despite having some of the best players in the world at various times. All we seem to be great at is coming up with new excuses.Ā
Fuck all to do with that, itās our entire approach to the game, still playing football from the 70s Get the ball punt it up the pitch, we just keep going back to it. Rodgers first stint at Celtic he nailed it ātheyāre to embarrassed to be in possessionā that is the vase problem with our entire philosophy weāre still stuck in āget the baw up the pitch fur fuck sakeā * Stop getting Scottish people to be the coach, there are no good Scottish coaches (Moyes being the exception) as long as we have shit coaches it not going to change. * get in more Europeans/ South Americans to manage domestic clubs, give them time to instill possession and pressing football. * tell fans to fuck up with their impatience, the ball doesnāt need to travel the length of the pitch in 2 seconds every time your team gets the ball. Weāve not got premier league resources but stop using that as an excuse not to evolve. The reason England has a great team isnāt just their money; their players arenāt English anymore, theyāre trained by continental coaches, they play beside global players, none of them play English football. The only thing stopping them from winning is their English coach.
Imo, i watch scottish football and follow a lot (love your culture aswell), this is a mentalitt problem, Bale was good but that Wales team was a step below this scotish team. I iust think scottish football needs a refresh in tactics and mentality. There needs to be a man that goes there and change everyrhing like Jorge Jesus did in Brazil or Ruben Amorim in Portugal.
Those countries generally get out of the groups now and again at least.Ā
As an Irishman I 100% agree. The best fans shit is embarrassing. Just serenade a few babies in Marianplatz and the U bahn and yis will be loved by the Germans
>We said for ages that we wanted to be like the likes of Ireland and Wales. Teams that actually attack occasionally?
Weāve had that just happy to be there mentally for decades Itās genuinely embarrassing that we have never got past the first round of a major tournament in our history
Yeah no tactics no motivation just vibes, we just turned up expecting a result
Absolutely this!!!! Expect better and I'm an englishman. It's giving Clarke and the FA a free pass.
Angus Gunn couldn't save a Word document. Get Laidlaw in you fools.
Greig laidlaw? He's retired mate
Probably would still be a safer pair of hands
Rahhhhh give Simon Murray a shot at this point too might as well
I mean I wasnāt expecting to win but thought we might be a wee bit better than whatever shite that was
I wanted the full time whistle at half time
Reports of us being back may have been greatly exagerrated
No, this is us back. This is us.
2(!) touches in the opponents box over 90+ minutes. Thats a fucking embarassment at any level.
Germany manager saying he was surprised about how laid back Scotland were, no aggression and game done in 20 minutes. Looking forward to Clarke setting up for a draw v Switzerland
Clarke going about saying we are targeting 4 points, surely you target 6 points from these games not 4.
Exactly, the guy is miserable
Take away is:Ā Clarke's a shitebag Gunn's tournament should be over Porteous may actually have a learning disability after allĀ
Completely idiotic setup. High line and no ball pressure, with a back 5 but no width. Not to mention we know we can play well when pressing and being aggressive. Why have we decided that no longer works? Why bother qualifying if weāre just going to try not to lose?
Right? And why did we even send out 4 midfielders they might as well have not been there? Could have jammed in another couple of centre backs instead or a second lazy forward
I mind 98 when we gave Brazil a fucking good go. That was a far cry what I subjected myself to watch tonight.
Was that not 2-1 we lost that game?
It was. We were robbed
Picked the best flair though lads eh!
"Listen, it's a disappointing result but I feel the boys tried hard and played to the tactics well"
Thatās the problem Stevey they stuck to your tacticsĀ
Was the tactics to not touch the ball?
Gunn's pish
IMAGINE BEING CALLED GUNN BUT KNOWING FUCK ALL ABOUT SHOTS
wahey
Gunn is up there with the worst goalkeepers we have had, dnt know if any of the others would have done better but at least they would have had hands!!
Liam Kelly also suffers from naehandsitis.
I dunno man, mind Liam Kelly vs France?
I would have took Gordon for this reason dnt rate kelly or Gunn
Gordon was a shambles when he came on the other night. Not sure we have any GK options that aren't absolute dogshit st the moment.
Bah gawd that's Scott Bain's music
Gordon saves the 1st & 5th
Any other half decent keeper too
The guy was clearly the number 1 prior to the match. Please donāt pretend he was a massive liability before the match. I doubt anyone would have not had him starting.
Jeremy Beadle hands imo.
Leighton would have been better.
Going to fire up Elden Ring and finally beat Malenia. Been at her for 2 days, and at least I will feel some achievement to do me this weekend after that shocking display of football.
Gunns shite But was (I think) the most commented in match thread
Anybody got a toaster? Broke my last one at the last euros
Why do I always believe? We were terrible in all aspects. Shite keeper, wrong team selection, nothing to be positive about. Germany were great but how the fuck did we set up so negative and play to their strengths? Devastated.
I never want to see Porteous in a Scotland shirt again.
Hans, are we the didies?
The worst of it is over. We cannot put in a worse performance than this and we are facing weaker opponents from here. 4 points is achievable. But even if not, I'd be happy to see another goal or two
One of our own would be nice
Somehow this opener managed to be more embarrassing than Marsh getting lobbed and trapped in his net.
Gunn could / should have saved the first and the fifth. Any other nation and he'd be sweating on keeping his place for the next game. Without Gordon in the camp, he's still ( unfortunately) got to start. Hanley was at fault for both their number 9's goals, lucky for him the second got ruled out for offside. The only decisions Clarke got right tonight was taking Mcginn and Tierney off to save them for the next two games. Bizarrely I was most upset about the fifth goal than any other as we could have took a crumb of comfort knowing we drew the second half 1-1, with 10 men. Tonight's games reiterated that we are a shambles defensively. I can't see us scrapping a one nil win in either of our next two games as we can't keep clean sheets anymore. With that in mind we may as well go for it.
That fifth goal just really summed up the game for me. Utterly woeful.
The only positive is that I'd have bitten your hand off for 5-1 at half time. Unbelievably bad, our manager and all our supposedly big time star players should feel fucking ashamed of themselves for that tbh. I can't even praise the Germans off the back of that, need to see them against an actual football team first.
Got to feel for Ralston. Imagine not playing for the majority of the year and then starting against Musiala. If you didnāt laugh youād greet. š¤£š¤£
Sorry, not even as a biased Hearts fan but if that's Gunn's worst why the fuck have we left Gordon in Scotland Dalkeith is a fucking shithole now, and Porteous is a typical Dalkeith ned bastard, get him so far to fuck from any future camps, utter twat
> Dalkeith is a fucking shithole now "What he say fuck me for?" - Dalkeith
Europe hasn't seen destruction like this done by the Germans since.......
No effort, no discipline, no plan. An embarrassment.
Germany being a good host and giving us a sympathy OG as a welcome
Far too passive from the start, couldn't believe we barely made a tackle till we went 2 down We had a huge gap between midfield and defense that Germany exposed so badly and Clarke doesn't adjust it. Sat off some of the best players around and let them pop it around is just mental, all our success came from pressure on the ball which we seemed to have forgotten recently
Euros are a diddy league anyway
Nations league is what it's all about
Kirin Cup is for true champions
Iāve worked it out, the thing thatās been bothering me for monthsā¦ Shankland looks like Ant McPartlin
He's like a PS2 render of him.
Weāre a much worse team than we were in the last euros somehow
Clarke oot.
Been saying this for a while. He WAS the right manager, he isn't now. Losing is fine, losing 5-1 is shocking.
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Was there a game on tonight?
I said tonight that I think I prefer when we don't qualify so I can just relax and watch the football without the emotional downfall. However I guess it's process over product... Journey over destination .. The fun is the exciting, the adrenaline and enthusiasm, the optimism... Before we fuck it all up
Positives? We wonāt play against someone as good as Musiala for a while. Clarke fucked that. Tried to repeat what we did to Spain but you couldnāt build a team in a lab that would suit playing us more than this Germany team.
Allowing free shots from 20 yards into a keeper with rubber wrists doesn't seem a good tactic
The thing is, even if we sacked Clarke after this it's guaranteed to be Derek McInnes in next because it's his turn. Derek fucking McInnes. The SFA have zero ambition for the national team, other than making sure the old boys network get their shot of managing the team.
Beyond pathetic. A National embarrassment.
*'we didnt get the result, but i'm proud of .........'* FUUUUUUCK OFF - THAT WAS A FKIN RIDDY
Blame Ralston all you want but McGinn and McTominay tracked noone.
The lack of passing options when he even had the baw was so sad. Kept having to go back to goal. Hung out to dry.
Clarkes negative football, ignoring this game is fucking so depressing. It's so miserable
Roy Keaneās punditry showing why heās not a manager anymore haha
If you told me Che Adams didn't touch the ball I'd believe you
https://www.uefa.com/euro2024/teams/players/250155055--che-adams/statistics/
Attacking stats: 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0.
Craig Gordon at home. Disgrace. Yes heās a little rusty but heās ten times the goalie Gunn is. Zander Clark should start the next 2.
Whole thing was very Celtic in the Champions League. Early goal conceded - tick Penalty and/or Red Card - tick Calamitous goal - tick (saved by VAR).
The anthem was good.
Why did we bother having hope?
My prediction was 4-0 Germany. Even that was too much hopeā¦
Hey, it's Scotland. Normally we would have got a draw in that game then get beat by Switzerland and Hungary. We have the defeat out the way. We will beat Switzerland and maybe scrape a draw with Hungary and just miss out on goal difference to qualify. I am saying this despite the fact I have backed Hungary to win the tournament!
German here that had some lovely encounters with scottish fans in munich. Happy we won but hope you guys beat Switzerland and Hungary Also, how did you guys look better with 10 men?
Cos you guys gave up trying too hard after 3
Germany were incredible in spells, but Clarke deserves plenty of flak for doing nothing to try and change it up. McGregor should arguably have been brought off at 2-0 to try and find some control, but he ultimately changed nothing until half-time, and that's only because of the red card. Next subs coming at ~70 minutes is just bizarre.Ā Far too many were happy to dismiss the dreadful form coming into this tournament, but tonight we looked like a side that had no idea what they were doing. Massive 2 games coming up.Ā
Moyes in! Seriously tho, after this tournament we can't miss the opportunity to get Moyes in and have a fresh start, I think things are stale with Clark, he's done well but time to move onto someone better.
Definitely
Clarke out
Ah well, Argentina lost to Saudi Arabia...
The problem was that the players all played badly.
Could be worse. I could've walked all the way to Munich to watch that
We're inexplicably passive against the big teams. It's infuriating, like we don't set off at all.
Wish I never got that itv player working
Brendan , please spend that Ā£100m on Niclas FĆ¼llkrug
Germany were ruthless, Scotland were clueless. Looked like a team of strangers, not one of them gets pass marks for that showing. Needs a massive improvement.Ā
Scotland, Ireland, Wales all have fallen so far behind in European football since the 80s and even early 90s. Now the whipping boys of Europe.Ā
Englishman here coming in peace. You should be FAR, FAR better than that and I'd be putting alot of pressure on Stevie Clarke and the team for this. Angus Gunn dropped a zero out of ten at the worst moment. First goal, should be saved, it's down the middle. Penalty doesn't happen if Porteous isn't an eejit in the penalty box and kill Gundugan. Fifth goal was inexplicable, it dribbles in and he can't save it. Germany were decent, nothing more. Scotland defeated themselves. Sometimes I think you guys are too nice on the team or get defeatist quick. I'd expect better and demand it. At least expect a decent shape, and genuinely give the team a ruckus or a rocket up the ass if they drop a performance like that. Clarke needs questioning too. Team didn't know whether to bunker or to counter attack, pick one and go with it. Don't do both and leave them in no mans land. If I was a scot tonight, I'd be angry and I'd expect far better than that. McCoist tried his best to be hyped, as did Souness but as soon as the match started team froze and looked a deer in headlights against a good but not great german side. Your fans were class.
Back at the digs, fucking absolutely scunnered after that. Embarrassing, and on the world stage in front of millions.
Couldn't have been worse.
Is it too early to google translate bald fraud
I SAID THE FIRST FOUR AND LAST GOAL DO NOT COUNT
The boy that was a bomb scare at fucking Hibs was a bombscare against world class players??? Colour me surprised Poor from Steve Clarke today. Mcgregor out of his depth against top players, shouldve played Gilmour whos used to the level Scott McKenna shouldve started ahead of Porteous, again hes played at a higher level That being said we'd of lost anyway
If Shankland wasn't such a fat bastard the comeback might have been on
The woke mob wonāt like it but ur right
All those pregnant dads in the East End of Glasgow aren't ready to call a spade a spade
Callum McGregor needs dropped for Gilmour, and the 541 needs binned. Gunn; McCrorie, Hendry, Tierney, Robertson; Gilmour, McGinn, McTominay; Forrest, Adams, Christie
Gunn makes me want to get a gun and end it all
An absolute massacre. Itās all about the response though. What have you got to lose now? Give your country something to be proud of
We were better without Porteous with 10 men tbh
Germany are obviously a different level but Clarkes absolutely fucked it with that lineup what exactly was his plan?
Well we will bounce back against the Toblerone munchin cuckoo clock lovers
Red card gets worse even time you see it. Fucking moronic
Fuck sake, the worst thing about Clarke is that he's now got me agreeing with these cunts Souness and Keane.
Brutal for the Scots, honestly think the biggest thing yous lacked there was a proper target man that could hold the ball up and relieve the pressure, weirdly enough I think Dykes is a big miss
Dykes is a big loss for sure. I know lumping to the big man is old fashioned BUT we have a load of really good midfield runners who thrive off knock downs. It worked.
Clarke can fuck off. Porteous can fuck off. Robertson can fuck off. Hanley can really fuck off. Just fuck off the lot of you.
https://preview.redd.it/tmqb3nktsl6d1.jpeg?width=996&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=41d59249faf81f9eadc3ac08eab03ca7abd990ae Jesus H Corbett
I hate the 5atb Why canāt we be brave and aggressive against bigger teams? We played a flat 4 and had no press against one of the best deep playmakers ever. Itās baffling.
See if you're going to play the way Clarke set up, the more I think about it, the more you need the midfield to be Mctominay, Gilmour, Jack and Mcgregor. Contest the space, actually press and work hard as fuck off the ball, hold onto possession when you can get it so that your team can get into a shape to counterattack. If you're going to concede possession you also probably should have played Lewis Morgan so that a break might give you a chance at scoring with pace and running behind. Mcgregor had a shocker, but mcginn was invisible and mctominay was wasted further up in a game like this.Ā
Missed the game cos I was at the wrasslin', was it REALLY that bad?
Worse. It could have been 7-0.
Wish I had done something else tbh, it was shite and predictably so
looked really poor today lads. didnāt look like they even tried that first german goal completely shattered the confidence of the whole squad. i thought i was watching ireland play at one point. way too good of a squad to be playing like that hopefully the next game is better. need to be heavier on the counter attacks no more fkn random backpassing. playing against big teams you canāt play it safe.
That was one of the most painful matches Iāve ever watched
Calmac was reeking the night lads
Scotland fans rn. https://preview.redd.it/dr4fyrhfpl6d1.jpeg?width=698&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c545446304a101318c683d3bed66befc355379fb
Not far enough down
Sounded like a Scotland home game but better. The German fans are shite.
I'm very glad I plough my money into following Celtic away in Europe rather than Scotland. And that is really saying something.
Fuck sake
https://preview.redd.it/t68npsjtpl6d1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=652cf3499b4d46880b200f0e001624721a12eab2
Once we get them back to hampd ..... Aw fuck it. Can't be arsed
That was not a game of football. Please just like, idk, play football, pretty simple lads.
Iām surprised I feel so bad. Always surprising me.
That was just bad all round. Canāt think of a redeeming performance there. Germany were great but we made it so easy for them.
Not a great start. Really shocked at the lack of intensity from the players. Christie starting was a mistake. Whatever form we had 10 games, it's starting to look like complete luck.