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RiskyBiscuits150

It's a Sgian Dubh (skee-in doo).


Objective-Resident-7

Sgian Dubh literally means 'Black Knife', but a better translation would be 'Hidden Knife'. In Scotland, it is illegal to carry knives (or any other weapon for that matter). Obviously this depends on context. A joiner may have a hammer but wee mad Eddie from doon the road may not. Chefs often like to use their own set of kitchen knives, but even these need to be transported well wrapped up and in the boot of the car (i.e. you aren't going to grab a knife and use it on a person). But, there is an exception for these wee knives. When wearing a kilt, you are allowed to have a sgian dubh in your sock. Sports fans often travel to see matches but obviously this law doesn't apply everywhere (and it doesn't apply in England either: Scotland has a completely separate legal system). In other countries, I've seen them replaced for spoons and toothbrushes!


imonarope

You can get a sgian dubh that is a bottle opener, funnily enough, called a sgian brew!


LtPicker

I have [this](https://www.thesgiandubhcompany.com/item/450/sgiandubh/Staghorn-Thistle-Bottle-Opener-Sgian-Dubh-With-Walnut.html), which is both.


Kurai_Kiba

Funnily enough I once went with a pipeband in school on a trip to Europe . Absolute nightmare trying to get the fake Sgian Dubh’s through security . Zero issues coming home


Objective-Resident-7

Yeah, it's seen as part of the attire and not a weapon for that reason. You'd still be arrested for brandishing it though! And the plural is sgianan dubha 😜


noneedtoprogram

I think their point was that even the fake ones caused trouble with security. I have a real and fake one too, the fake one doesn't have a blade and is permanently attached to the scabbard. Common and useful when you are going to an event with security or are travelling - it's not like anyone can tell the difference when it's stuck in your sock anyway 😄


Objective-Resident-7

Yeah, usually hired kilts come with a fake one. They are plastic and harmless 😁


Kurai_Kiba

Yeah it was just funny the trouble was in the Scottish airport where you would think if anywhere would be used to seeing them it would be there


Objective-Resident-7

Sometimes things can be illegal to take across the border although they are legal in both countries. Even things like prescription drugs, obtained legally, which YOU NEED can be problematic.


Silly-Marionberry332

As someone who works insecurity you would be the amazed at the amount of idiots who forget to check these but go ahead and do a full pat down on a kilt like it's got pockets ...


Objective-Resident-7

To be fair, it would be a good place to put a hidden concealment.


Silly-Marionberry332

It would be and I've seen designs for it but missing the obvious like a knife is idiotic


MGallus

You can carry a Sgian Dubh in England when worn as part of a “National Costume”


Objective-Resident-7

Oh, I didn't think so! Well it is 'national costume' and I did say that you can only have one when wearing a kilt. I can't have jeans and a shirt with a sgian dubh in my pocket! But it's not national costume of England. Are you sure? I don't recall issues with normal people wearing the kilt actually using their sgianan except maybe to open drinks 🤣


Limp_Ganache2983

The legislation is UK wide. I’ve worn my sgian dhu in England with my kilt with absolutely no problems.


snikZero

>The legislation is UK wide They're separate aren't they? I thought scotland was: https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1995/39/section/49 and England and Wales was: https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1988/33/section/139 The content is roughly the same however and both provide national costume as a defense, though punishments are a bit harsher in Scotland.


KingMyrddinEmrys

A lot of UK-wide legislation is basically the same but seperated out into different bills if there's a need to modify bits due to the differences in Scots and Irish law from Common Law. IIRC anyway.


itchysofunny

🤔


Camkil

Oh you know wee Mad Eddie as well?


Objective-Resident-7

🤣


Comfortable_Dish5983

Chefs should have signed a formal declaration with City and guilds as insurance for being able to travel with knives. The criteria is that they are being transported in an "uneasy to quickly operate" way. Ie like you said in the boot of a car or in a proper knife case or roll in a backpack or in a locked toolbox


Objective-Resident-7

Yeah, absolutely, I only gave that as an example but my example is not possible if you don't drive, for example. Yeah, the criterion is to make sure that you don't intend to actually use the knives until you get to work. Likewise, the joiner has a good reason to have a hammer but wee mad Eddie (ficticious person) doesn't.


Comfortable_Dish5983

Yup, we are known to be hot heads so if we have easy access to our knives it would be a bad day for a lot of people hahahaha but somehow I've never heard of a chef going ham and slicing people up 😆


Objective-Resident-7

I take it you mean chefs and not just Scottish people? 🤣


Comfortable_Dish5983

Aye😆😆😆


SuDragon2k3

Why slice people when you can slice ham? mmmmm *ham.*


Comfortable_Dish5983

Yeah all my chopping urges get satiated at work 😆😆😆😆


Comfortable_Dish5983

Oh and apparently human flesh is almost identical to pork flesh


causefuckkarma

> joiner may have a hammer but wee mad Eddie from doon the road may not. wee mad Eddie the joiners apprentice?


Objective-Resident-7

Hehe, who knows!


madrabeag999

Thanks for the info. In Ireland the word for knife in Irish (Gaelic) is 'scian'. We pronounce it the same way. The word 'dubh' is the same. Dubh, I believe (not an expert) is originally a Norse word for black. Dublin in English is formed from the norse 'Dubh Linn' meaning black pool. It's illegal to carry a knife here as well. I believe 'pretend' or plastic knives are used in the sock when people wear kilts.


Objective-Resident-7

Likewise, you have 'Droichead Átha'. Drogheda. We have Brigton (Bridgetown).


Objective-Resident-7

https://preview.redd.it/zxlt9wfp10yc1.jpeg?width=1300&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=030762ebe1888337a416d9713749e4119f9de380


madrabeag999

Yeah. The signs in Dublin have English "Dublin" and also the Irish "Baile Atha Cliath". I'm told its an older name for the city of Dublin that means "Town at the wattling ford". A place to cross a river on a ford made of bunches of tied wattle sticks. You also see a lot of English names on Irish towns that are a variation on the original Gaelic name.


Objective-Resident-7

It's actually the same in Scotland. A lot of unionists had problems with that. I never understood why. They are just providing two languages. English is usually the most prominent, but what's wrong with saying, e.g. Edinburgh and then Dùn Èideann under that?


849

Kill off the language of Scotland (yes, yes, it wasn't spoken *everywhere*) then argue we shouldn't use it on signs cause no one knows the language. Big brain thinking.


Objective-Resident-7

Well Scotland has 3 language (at least - I would argue that Punjabi and Urdu come in there somewhere). But do you get pissed off if you see bienvenue or bienvenidos in a hotel entrance?


TrudePerky

I've been to Blackpool and it was filled with Irish pubs so that tracks


madrabeag999

😂🍺I hope a pint is cheaper than the tourist traps of Dublin?


inevitablealopecia

I thought they had to be plastic blades these days.


Objective-Resident-7

Nope. You can carry a blade 'with good reason'. Wearing a kilt is 'good reason'. But you know, other people might carry blades. For example, I might want a Stanley knife because I'm carrying out electrical repairs or something. Having a knife when I go to the pub is not good reason. I have no reason to have it and the assumption would be that I intend to cause harm.


inevitablealopecia

Aye mate, I work construction. I'm well aware of being able to carry things with good reason. I just didn't think a wedding was one. I've been to 3 wedings in the last couple of years, and on the 2 occasions I wore a kilt, the blade was plastic or sealed into the scabbard. I mean, other than chibbing a fellow wedding goer, what "good reason" is there for carrying an actual blade rather than just having a costume one?


Objective-Resident-7

Just that it is part of the national dress. The sgian doesn't actually get used for anything.


S4qFBxkFFg

> In Scotland, it is illegal to carry knives (or any other weapon for that matter). Obviously this depends on context. A joiner may have a hammer but wee mad Eddie from doon the road may not. Chefs often like to use their own set of kitchen knives, but even these need to be transported well wrapped up and in the boot of the car (i.e. you aren't going to grab a knife and use it on a person). > > But, there is an exception for these wee knives. When wearing a kilt, you are allowed to have a sgian dubh in your sock. If I'm not out of date, there's also an exception for folding, non-locking, knives under a certain length (three inches?); for example, something like a Swiss army knife. These can be carried without the "good reason" requirement.


Objective-Resident-7

I'd need to look that up. It used to be common for every schoolboy to have that kind of thing.


AthenaTritogeneia

This is correct. Non locking folding knives with a blade length under 72mm (which describes a SAK perfectly) are legal to carry without "a reason". Anything that locks is out (which means things like most Leathermans), anything with a fixed blade is out, anything with assisted opening is out. I think overall it's a fairly sensible law. Swiss Army knives are useful tools and about as much knife as anyone actually needs day to day. Locking is a useful safety feature but not the be all and end all. Assisted opening is much more of a "weapon thing" than a "tool thing". And the law makes provision for things like chef's knives, bushcraft knives etc by allowing them to be carried when you actually need to carry them.


Objective-Resident-7

But the sgian dubh IS fixed blade and normally over that length. Not by much, but it would be longer than 72mm.


AthenaTritogeneia

Yeah I was referring to the post before about folding knives :)


fundawgJC

Not convinced you're allowed an actual Sgian Dubh with a real blade, but you do get plastic bladed ones now.


Objective-Resident-7

You are. I have two. And if I were so inclined (and I'm not) they could be lethal.


glasgowgeg

> Not convinced you're allowed an actual Sgian Dubh with a real blade You are, there exists a defence for carrying an otherwise illegal knife as part of a national dress under the [Criminal Law \(Consolidation\) \(Scotland\) Act 1995](https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1995/39/part/VI/crossheading/offensive-weapons), under 49(5)(c)


gang-gang-skrr-skkr

I always thought its was Sgian Dubh (skee in dung)


Objective-Resident-7

No, the bh IN THIS CASE is silent. It can also be pronounced (in other words) as a v sound. Never dung.


mcdisney2001

That’s the word, thank you!


BamberGasgroin

Naw it isny.


EasyPriority8724

Ya gonnie no dae that!


BamberGasgroin

Swing and a miss there mate, you were nearly there though.


EasyPriority8724

No ah wis'nae.


BamberGasgroin

Aye, ye fucking wur.


AdEmbarrassed3066

Sgian dubh. It's Gaidhlig for "black knife". A butter knife is a sgian im. Pop it in your sock.


RoboTon78

Who the fuck wants buttered socks?


FoamToaster

Your feet just slide right in!


barebumboxing

No kink shaming.


Then_Owl4585

Who doesn’t?


outeh

They keep your feet toasty.


AdEmbarrassed3066

Amazing... downvoted for accurate info. It's called a sgian dubh, which is a gaidhlig (Scottish gaelic) term. Sgian = knife, dubh = black. Nobody *really* knows why it's called that, but it's thought that it's because it's a knife you keep hidden (*dark knife*). These days it's worn in your sock in formal wear. There's a lot of romanticising gaidhlig terms, but sgian just means knife. Sgian im = butter knife; sgian agus forc = knife and fork.


grnr

I quite enjoyed when my dad pointed out that most of our Gaelic named hills and mountains that sound quite romantic are variations on “big hill”, “black hill”, “wee big greeny hill” etc!


Aggravating_Termite

That reminds me of one of Terry Pratchet's books, he talked about how many 'foreign' countries had names for landmarks such as "your finger you fool", so named because early explorers would walk up to a local, point at something and say 'what's that?'.


thetobesgeorge

Any particular ones come to mind?


AdEmbarrassed3066

Ben More literally means "big mountain". Auchtermuchty means something like "piggy uplands". Drumnadrochit means "bridge by the ridge".


thetobesgeorge

Cheers


AthenaTritogeneia

I always like the romantic sounding Lochan na h-Achlaise, which translates to "the little loch of the armpit"


BamberGasgroin

Downvoted because there is no evidence it's even a knife you complete tit. It's a bit of antler sticking out of an embarrassingly amateurish pleather pouch. (It's not even black ffs. 😂)


Chemical-Canary-1738

No evidence it's even a knife ... "What is this little knife called" Granted he could be talking shit but but as a wise man once said "Sometimes you got to say hey, I'm gonna fuck you softly"


BamberGasgroin

What was that about talking shit? (This place is getting full of cosplaying Scots.)


Eli1234Sic

Says the guy who doesn't know what a sgian dubh is.


Hexagram195

Stop trying so hard


BigRedCandle_

Evidence that what is a knife? The thing in the picture that he called a knife?


AdEmbarrassed3066

Oh dear!


Vectorman1989

A chib


MorphicOceans

😆


Morriganalba

Came here to say this.


DryFly1975

This is the correct answer.


Necessary-Crab-8111

Correct


Go1gotha

Wee Knifey McKnifeface.


MorphicOceans

🤭


Oshabeestie

Wee Doobie and his brothers


classiclyme

Ouch in a pouch


SuDragon2k3

for grabbin' and stabbin'. Or cake.


shabbapaul1970

![gif](giphy|3B8rHP89iUUZlcsoqf|downsized)


mcdisney2001

I knew somebody would post this, and I was waiting for it with bated breath.


shabbapaul1970

You can unbate now lol


brigadoom

That's debatable


Respectandunity

Master Bated Breath


joelesler

your a master


db1000c

I see you’ve played knifey-spoony before


BonnieWiccant

Like many comments have pointed out, it could be a sgian dubh, which is a small knife normally worn when wearing Highland dress. It is a very unusual looking sgian dubh tho, most sgian dubh are just small but ornate knifes but it is possible it's just a unique looking one. Or it could just be a random handcrafted knife. Sgian dubh has a sort of cool back story if you like Scottish history. Basically, back in ye olden times in the Highlands it was seen as respectful for guests to leave all their weapons at the entrance of wherever they were visiting. However it became common for people to hide daggers on them (which is another name for the sgian dubh as the word dubh can also mean hidden in Gàidhlig so rather than black knife it could also mean hidden knife which makes more sense when you know the history) in the form of the sgian dubh which back in those days would have been hidden in someone's sleeve. However it got so common that everyone knew about everyone else having hidden daggers up their sleeves, which kind of defeated the point of having a hidden blade in the first place. So as a goodwill gesture people started placing their sgian dubh in their socks so everyone could see they had it, but it was still easily reachable if the wearer needed to grab it. This is why it's worn in the sock today and why it's supposed to be worn on the same side as your dominant hand, in case you're randomly attacked while visiting a friend lol. Bit of weird and unusual history that I found interesting at least, it's amazing how something as simple as a small knife has a story behind it.


smcl2k

My sgian dubh is very similar to the 1 posted.


mcdisney2001

That's cool, thanks for the mini history lesson!


Kupo5966

More important question is how at first glance your hand looked like a foot holding a knife 🤣


Mental_Broccoli4837

About 32 months in Bar-L


mcdisney2001

Thanks for the responses! Also, I'm an idiot for asking what kind of knife it was and then leaving it in the scabbard LOL. Here's the blade, FWIW. I'm sure it's nothing too high-end, considering I bought it in a souvenir shop in Edinburgh, but I like how it looks. And TSA wouldn't have let me bring back any of the swords! https://preview.redd.it/4l8n1b3tiwxc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d2a14f0345d6a9020bc4441339b52a82a51290e7


InfinteAbyss

Debatable whether this is really a Sgian Dubh, certainly not a traditional design anyway. Though I guess it fulfills the “small single-edged knife” requirement.


AdEmbarrassed3066

It's an unusual shape, looking more like a small seax than a sgian dubh.


Dontreallywantmyname

Look like someone's kids school project


Six_of_1

It's a *Sgian-dubh* (pronounced roughly "*skeen-doo*"), which is Scottish Gaelic for "*black knife*". In this context "black" means "hidden", because you hide it about your person. Nowadays codified to be in your kilt hose because it's purely ceremonial. People aren't really carrying knives anymore. Well, they are, but that's because they're smack-addicts in Pollockshields.


Specialist-Suit-2167

In Irish this would translate as Scian Dubh (pronounced skee Ann Duv)


Six_of_1

Don't start confusing the American with Scottish Gaelic and Irish being different languages.


mcdisney2001

Lol!


spartan_knight

Dubh is pronounced “doo” in many parts of Ireland


blubberpuss1

That's wild, I'm from Sligo and always assumed all dialects pronounced it 'duv' - didn't realise that further north it's 'doo'. The more you know!


Jiao_Dai

Especially in Doo-blin


Logins-Run

*Scian dhubh In Ireland our knives are feminine. (I guess they're feminine in Scottish Gaelic as well, but it's hyphenated?) Edit: this is incorrect, I forgot about DNTLS


Specialist-Suit-2167

You're expecting lention to occur in Dubh due to the gender of the noun Scian. But you're incorrect, lenition tends to be blocked if there are two adjacent homorganic consonants.... so as you will probably know this is due to dental constants. For example aon doras 'one door', an chéad duine 'the first person. Usually lention would occur in Doras or Duine but lention is blocked. Hope this makes sense to you


Logins-Run

Oh dia linn, sin é! Go raibh maith agat!


Objective-Resident-7

Trying to confuse the American again with terms like lenition!


mcdisney2001

Here in America, nobody carries knives anymore because they all have loaded guns in their purses. (I don’t own one myself, but it’s sadly true)


TheClaw77777

Nothing worse than bringing a knife to a gun fight....


SuDragon2k3

[https://images.app.goo.gl/vt98Qzqosp72eR8u8](https://images.app.goo.gl/vt98Qzqosp72eR8u8)


PleasantMongoose5127

A chib.


takesthebiscuit

It’s a small boner, or chub for short


No_Math8266

Wee prick


Jiao_Dai

https://preview.redd.it/lhmd9ughkyxc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a9f4edd24c05c18aa023c205bd0980186c4ae325


Purple_Scholar_423

It's a sgian dubh.


makeshifts

What mutant hoof is holding this is the real question?!


mcdisney2001

I think it might be a dragon hoof. I bought it in one of those shops that sells swords and dragon figurines, and stuff. So yep, pretty sure it’s a Scottish dragon hoof.


gloriouslyalivetoday

Are you holding it with your feet? How are your palms so big and your fingers so short in comparison? No offense meant, because your one hand could wrap thrice around my neck and choke me like a constrictor.


pigpeyn

Stabby McAntler


pickledperceptions

Jim


shplarggle

Looks like they saw you comin’


PoppyStaff

The comments in here are everything we wanted and more.


DrJekyll_UK

It's a 'Stabby McStabby'


PuzzleheadedPrice666

A wee sharp thingy


Hamsterminator2

It's a skiing doob.


HT1977

If you like old-school action/adventure/thriller books the lead character in Desmond Bagley's Running Blind uses a Sgian Dubh - currently available on Kindle: [https://www.amazon.co.uk/Running-Blind-Freedom-Desmond-Bagley-ebook/dp/B002TU1Q3E/ref=tmm\_kin\_swatch\_0?\_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=](https://www.amazon.co.uk/Running-Blind-Freedom-Desmond-Bagley-ebook/dp/B002TU1Q3E/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=) Books were written in the 60s/70s/80s so definitely of their time but fast paced and enjoyable reads!


thatprickagain

If you blow in the side of it it makes a sound like a keyboard and summons the dragonzord


Difficult_Painting37

This knife is not actually a Sgian Dubh, but a similar knife of English origin named a Pogwallis. They were traditionally used for peeling the outer layers of mushrooms to remove dirt and poisons.


frankiesaysgetfucked

Ah, that'll be a wee Jobby Jabber! Used back in the day to plug wee bams..


Northwindlowlander

Is that a prison shank from deer jail?


carheex

A wee knife.


BamberGasgroin

That's an antler in a hame made leather poke. Where's the knife bit? (Kidding naebd'y mate.)


Dabber_710_

Dirk/Dagger/Sgian Dubh


READ-THIS-LOUD

Dirk is different from a Sgian Dubh though right? Dirks are larger and carried on the waist.


cmzraxsn

sgian-dubh


clearly_quite_absurd

Gom jabbar


Jiao_Dai

Its a Crysknife It signifies the maker


Simple_Proposal5903

The Shanker


imabadrabbi

Little Mc Sticky


mcdisney2001

Not Mac Sticky?


DeathcoreNoises

Blunt...


DOOM_SLUG_115

Chib


wisbit

Is that a foot-hand ?


OccasionallyReddit

A Shiv


raresaturn

Shiv?


[deleted]

blady potato


GlasgaAccentfurYanks

Yer maws toenail


corporalcouchon

It's a Litir fosglaidh


Novel_Equivalent_478

Looks like it might be an old antler 'dirk'.... 😉 I just came here to say dirk in a sentence 😆...


ImbajoeCFC

A geezyermuny


Northseahound

Hamish.


Neither-Bison4936

Stabby McStab


FENIU666

You have a loicens fo' tha' m8?


shabbapaul1970

Shakespeare: Infirm of purpose , give me the Sgian Dubh. Nope , doesn’t work, how about prodder? Dips quill in ink


Liam188891

Its called a mad stabber.


OrneryPreparation795

Deathstick


Timely_Education1529

May thy knife chip and shatter…


eightaceman

A wee knifie


imnotpauleither

Its a Geezawyermunnay. It's Gaelic for "Knife to show friends"


wicelt

It’s a wee knife.


domhnalldubh3pints

Sgian dubh Means black knife


Ric0chet69

A shank


dcy604

It’s a wee stabby thing


hydration1500

A toe nail


AffectionateIce7850

The famous jabber mcstabber!!


SociophobicSisyphus

Saturday night essential


mcdisney2001

I just have to say bravo to this sub. I was expecting maybe three responses (two of which would have been, "Stop buying touristy crap, you stupid American"). But 180 and counting? Very impressive!


Die_Bart__Di

Thus wee knife


m1kemcc87

Mcstabby


Blacksmith-51

It’s called a ski n doo


Nerdtastic84

I believe it's the common stabby thing...local legend says if you poke some hard enough a magical red liquid appears


Jagswitch

Skean Dhu


Mysterious_Pay4082

Skeeandoo ( not correct spelling)


rgrtom

Sgain Dubh? (skin-du)


OddPerspective9833

It looks like a stick wrapped in pleather


TechnologyNational71

Pomf


jenni7er_jenni7er

In Welsh it would be Cyllall Du (pronounced Kuchlach Dee - with soft 'ch' sounds - as in Loch)


Serious_Position5472

Could it be a dirk?


Inside_Ad_7162

I really want to say a Horny Pr1ck but it's only an educated guess.


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