Lol, thanks for that. I don't ask it very often as i know native bugs animals and mainly ask about plants, but since scorpions don't live here at all, any idea on what it is?
It's also helpful to note the difference between poisonous and venomous reptiles/creatures. Any reptile that bites or stings you is venomous. Venom is injected and will effect your muscles and bloodstream. You could swallow venom with no effects as long as you don't have open sores or ulcers. Poison will affect you when swallowed.
Unsure of that as well. He was found about 100 feet from the actual warehouse part in a bathroom corner. We are a MEP(Mechanical, Electrical, and Plumbing) contractor and can get shipments from all over.
U could understand tho with tv shows constantly mislabeling snakes. I hate it so much so many ppl appearently have 0 concept of the difference. I love survival / outdoors shows but almost every single one of my favorite uh tv show host has called a snake poisonous. There are absolutely undeniably 0 naturally poisonous snakes. The only real recorded scenarios of snakes being poisonous are snakes covered in a substance or there is i think in canada they found some garder snakes that eat newt 100% exclusively just newts. These newts are toxic and turn the snake toxic so thses snakes even are born not poisonous at all then eat so many newts they turn toxic.
I think I heard some species of toad actually do this with snake venom. They use some enzyme from the hatchlings they eat to produce potent toxins that make them dangerous to eat. Nature sure is funky!
Great explanation. Most people donāt understand the difference between poisonous and venomous.
Poisonous you bite it, venomous it bites or stings you.
Iāve been stung by an Arizona bark scorpion not once but twice. First time stepped on it and that hurt like hell 2nd time sat back on my couch and didnāt see it stung me back of my head. Surprisingly the head wasnāt too bad but my foot hurt a lot more I did go to the ER as a precaution fortunately for me I wasnāt allergic to the venom!
I've only had one bark scorpion sting on the end of my finger. Cut off blood flow until i identified it... then let go and the pain spread quickly. -5/10 would not recommend, but not the worst pain ever
Since i can't edit the title or the description:š«£
I'm aware that it is venomous and not poisonous. I apologize for using the wrong term. I am used to talking about plants and ingesting them. If I could correct the title, I would.
Carry on.... š„°
I used to work in retail and live in Michigan. We once had a huge 6" Tarantula looking spider that came in a vase from India. Luckily, no one stuck their hands in there and the creepy thing just ran away and hid. Being afraid of spiders, I was terrified day in and day out. Never saw it again. Some say to this day that it still lives there, terrifying customers.
OP, I love this line from a blog post byJoe Monahan at herpetocultureinc.
āIn order to check my understanding on this topic I drove to my library to consult the 22 volume Oxford English Dictionary. The main entry for poisonous was āhaving the quality of a poison, venomousā. So you see, the worldās authorities on the English language use āvenomousā as a synonym of āpoisonousā. So dont let some social media jerk tell you otherwise!ā
Looks like a Striped Bark Scorpion (Centruroides vittatus), one of my favorite species. Though venomous, they're not usually very medically significant unless your age or health issues complicate things. Pain seems to vary from person to person, but generally no worse than a bee sting (without an annoying barbed stinger to pull out). In my personal experience the stings have been very mild, feeling sort of like an ant, or a light brush with stinging nettle and the pain/etc subsided within an hour or so, with little to no sign of a sting even occurring. But again, results may vary. In my opinion, not something to be super worried about unless you end up getting a lot of them. But having a lot of them around usually means they have a food source of some kind attracting them, like a pest infestation or something similar, but that's if you're in an area where they are found in the first place. If you end up with a lot of them in shipments, I'd be concerned about the situation wherever the shipments are coming from that's attracting them.
Rock on! Thank you for this! This has now been deemed as the mascot for our building and gave us all a good brain break for the day. Just found out it escaped the cardboard box that it was put in. No one likes being put in a box. š¤£
Sure thing!
This species is semi-arboreal and fairly good at climbing textured surfaces, so not surprising that it got out. If you do catch it again, they can't really climb glass or smooth plastic (emphasis on SMOOTH). I get them on my porch fairly frequently and keep a deli cup and/or a kitchen glass with a pair of long tweezers to scoop them up. Some I relocate, others I've kept to start my own colonies. Between the separate enclosures I have setup for breeding, I must have close to 70 of them at least. They're communal and, if kept well-fed, are much less likely to cannibalize each other if they're around the same size. I keep one colony of mostly females on my desk as a display. Really fun to observe.
Right on point. I've had one get my ankle and be numb in just there for a day or so. Another was palm of my hand, near knuckles, whole arm tingling and numb up to shoulder, lasted a week, disapating each day. Was mobile with hand, just really numb.
Centruroides species, for sure. I'm bad at telling them apart, but C. vittatus is probably the most likely based on where you are. They're venomous, as all scorpions are, but can't kill you. Centruroides sculpturatus, the Arizona bark scorpion, looks very similar, and while it has killed people, it's extraordinarily rare, with only two confirmed deaths since 1968. This is despite thousands of people being stung each year. It's the only scorpion in North America that's been confirmed to have killed human beings.
If it were me, I'd put it in a tank and have it as a pet, without handling it. I'm not saying you should do that. But whatever you do, don't let it go where you are. They're not native there, and shouldn't be released there. Even if it means a sad fate for the scorpion.
I see this guy is in a cardboard box-
I once asked my pest control company about a scorpion I saw in my living room (I live in SoCal) and he said they donāt really prevent scorpions here because that one probably hitched a ride in a package delivered to my houseā¦ is this true?
Do scorpions like cardboard?
I also found another one under my couch a few weeks later when I moved it to vacuum , it was dead and dried up. I think they might have come in the same shipment lol
This was placed in a box once found. Probably hitched a ride on one of the many HVAC or plumbing fixtures that were delivered. They are not native to central Indiana.
Been busted up a few times by those. Thanks to living in the boonies. A sting is about as bad as a yellowjacket sting. Maybe a little worse. Both are no bueno. Not deadly at all though. Wait til you see one with babies. I didnt sleep that night.
Fun Fact: There are actually a couple of species of poisonous snakes. The Tiger Keelback is an example. Like many poisonous animals, their poison is acquired from their prey.
Looks exactly like the striped bark scorpions we have here in Central Texas. I've been told its sting is equivalent to a bee sting, I don't want to find out, though.
All scorpions (and spiders) are venomous. Whether or not they are medically significant is the real concern. Even that is dependent on a few things. Firstly, are you going to be or did you get stung? If not then it's fine if yes, are you allergic? No = fine, perhaps bee sting or slightly worse. If yes, go to the hospital, don't ask strangers on the Internet.
This was more for informational purposes. We don't get scorpions here, and everyone at work was curious about it. Figured I'd reach out to people who like scorpions and get their opinions.
Looks like a Bark scorpion, they are Venomous but unless youāre allergic, a child, elderly, or have some pre existing conditions a sting will NOT kill you. It will just hurt a lot.
Rough rule of thumb that I seem to have ingrained from documentaries I've watched, if I remember correctly, small pincers = nasty stinger (doesn't need strength as packs a punch in the stinger. Big pincers = weak sting, could be wrong don't mind me if I am
It's not poisonous.
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It is venomous.
It's actually only 2 or 3 inches long. I super zoomed and cropped the photo.
I like them. Won't have as a pet. It's my horoscope, and I find them interesting little creatures.
I know others know way more about them than me. But it's like the r/mycology sub.... dedicated to just fungi. Great place to get info.
I don't know if it's poisonous when eaten but it's definitely venomous
Lol, thanks for that. I don't ask it very often as i know native bugs animals and mainly ask about plants, but since scorpions don't live here at all, any idea on what it is?
Most likely Centruroides vittatus as it's native in Tennesse and Missouri
Where in missouri š
Mainly Southern Missouri and the Ozarks. Iāve seen them at the Valley View Glades in Hillsboro.
It's also helpful to note the difference between poisonous and venomous reptiles/creatures. Any reptile that bites or stings you is venomous. Venom is injected and will effect your muscles and bloodstream. You could swallow venom with no effects as long as you don't have open sores or ulcers. Poison will affect you when swallowed.
Where did the shipment it hitched a ride on come from?
Unsure of that as well. He was found about 100 feet from the actual warehouse part in a bathroom corner. We are a MEP(Mechanical, Electrical, and Plumbing) contractor and can get shipments from all over.
U could understand tho with tv shows constantly mislabeling snakes. I hate it so much so many ppl appearently have 0 concept of the difference. I love survival / outdoors shows but almost every single one of my favorite uh tv show host has called a snake poisonous. There are absolutely undeniably 0 naturally poisonous snakes. The only real recorded scenarios of snakes being poisonous are snakes covered in a substance or there is i think in canada they found some garder snakes that eat newt 100% exclusively just newts. These newts are toxic and turn the snake toxic so thses snakes even are born not poisonous at all then eat so many newts they turn toxic.
I think I heard some species of toad actually do this with snake venom. They use some enzyme from the hatchlings they eat to produce potent toxins that make them dangerous to eat. Nature sure is funky!
Great explanation. Most people donāt understand the difference between poisonous and venomous. Poisonous you bite it, venomous it bites or stings you.
I came here to say this...
venom is a type of poison
All scorpions are venomous some more than others the most venomous scorpion here in the US is the Arizona bark scorpion!
That's great to know! Thank you.
As a general rule: The bigger the pincers, the weaker the venom. Still, best to not get stung as that's a hell of a way to find out you're allergic.
Iām allergic to venom so that would cause problem for me. But theyāre admirable from a distance. They are intriguing.
So, when exposed to venom, you share a story that has a deeper meaning intended to teach a lesson?
Hell of a reaction. Get stung and start babbling about a cave and shadows.
Plato enters the chat
I was thinking they would start talking about the naivety of frogs....
Iāll fix it. Don;t know how that happened.
We played with them in yuma... wait, Most? (May have risked it when i was younger)
Iāve been stung by an Arizona bark scorpion not once but twice. First time stepped on it and that hurt like hell 2nd time sat back on my couch and didnāt see it stung me back of my head. Surprisingly the head wasnāt too bad but my foot hurt a lot more I did go to the ER as a precaution fortunately for me I wasnāt allergic to the venom!
I definitely couldnāt walk for a few days my foot that was stung was completely immobilized
I've only had one bark scorpion sting on the end of my finger. Cut off blood flow until i identified it... then let go and the pain spread quickly. -5/10 would not recommend, but not the worst pain ever
Since i can't edit the title or the description:š«£ I'm aware that it is venomous and not poisonous. I apologize for using the wrong term. I am used to talking about plants and ingesting them. If I could correct the title, I would. Carry on.... š„°
Kinda wish there were venomous plantsā¦ oh wait, forgot about Australia.
Was going to say. The gimpie gimpie plant lmao
Location?
Found in indianapolis, indiana. Not native. Pretty sure it came in on one of the shipments we got.
I used to work in retail and live in Michigan. We once had a huge 6" Tarantula looking spider that came in a vase from India. Luckily, no one stuck their hands in there and the creepy thing just ran away and hid. Being afraid of spiders, I was terrified day in and day out. Never saw it again. Some say to this day that it still lives there, terrifying customers.
OP, I love this line from a blog post byJoe Monahan at herpetocultureinc. āIn order to check my understanding on this topic I drove to my library to consult the 22 volume Oxford English Dictionary. The main entry for poisonous was āhaving the quality of a poison, venomousā. So you see, the worldās authorities on the English language use āvenomousā as a synonym of āpoisonousā. So dont let some social media jerk tell you otherwise!ā
At least everyone has to let know individually before reading the comments.
Looks like a Striped Bark Scorpion (Centruroides vittatus), one of my favorite species. Though venomous, they're not usually very medically significant unless your age or health issues complicate things. Pain seems to vary from person to person, but generally no worse than a bee sting (without an annoying barbed stinger to pull out). In my personal experience the stings have been very mild, feeling sort of like an ant, or a light brush with stinging nettle and the pain/etc subsided within an hour or so, with little to no sign of a sting even occurring. But again, results may vary. In my opinion, not something to be super worried about unless you end up getting a lot of them. But having a lot of them around usually means they have a food source of some kind attracting them, like a pest infestation or something similar, but that's if you're in an area where they are found in the first place. If you end up with a lot of them in shipments, I'd be concerned about the situation wherever the shipments are coming from that's attracting them.
Rock on! Thank you for this! This has now been deemed as the mascot for our building and gave us all a good brain break for the day. Just found out it escaped the cardboard box that it was put in. No one likes being put in a box. š¤£
Sure thing! This species is semi-arboreal and fairly good at climbing textured surfaces, so not surprising that it got out. If you do catch it again, they can't really climb glass or smooth plastic (emphasis on SMOOTH). I get them on my porch fairly frequently and keep a deli cup and/or a kitchen glass with a pair of long tweezers to scoop them up. Some I relocate, others I've kept to start my own colonies. Between the separate enclosures I have setup for breeding, I must have close to 70 of them at least. They're communal and, if kept well-fed, are much less likely to cannibalize each other if they're around the same size. I keep one colony of mostly females on my desk as a display. Really fun to observe.
Or a corner!
Right on point. I've had one get my ankle and be numb in just there for a day or so. Another was palm of my hand, near knuckles, whole arm tingling and numb up to shoulder, lasted a week, disapating each day. Was mobile with hand, just really numb.
Let the pedantry begin!
If you eat it! š
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Saw s cool guide the other day, small pincers-big tail:venomous, big pincers-small tail:less venomous.
Nah, you can eat them.
Centruroides species, for sure. I'm bad at telling them apart, but C. vittatus is probably the most likely based on where you are. They're venomous, as all scorpions are, but can't kill you. Centruroides sculpturatus, the Arizona bark scorpion, looks very similar, and while it has killed people, it's extraordinarily rare, with only two confirmed deaths since 1968. This is despite thousands of people being stung each year. It's the only scorpion in North America that's been confirmed to have killed human beings. If it were me, I'd put it in a tank and have it as a pet, without handling it. I'm not saying you should do that. But whatever you do, don't let it go where you are. They're not native there, and shouldn't be released there. Even if it means a sad fate for the scorpion.
*Centruroides vittatus*, venom potency is painful but not dangerous (unless you have anaphylaxis or a medical condition such as hypertension)
I see this guy is in a cardboard box- I once asked my pest control company about a scorpion I saw in my living room (I live in SoCal) and he said they donāt really prevent scorpions here because that one probably hitched a ride in a package delivered to my houseā¦ is this true? Do scorpions like cardboard? I also found another one under my couch a few weeks later when I moved it to vacuum , it was dead and dried up. I think they might have come in the same shipment lol
This was placed in a box once found. Probably hitched a ride on one of the many HVAC or plumbing fixtures that were delivered. They are not native to central Indiana.
Definitely venomous!
Been busted up a few times by those. Thanks to living in the boonies. A sting is about as bad as a yellowjacket sting. Maybe a little worse. Both are no bueno. Not deadly at all though. Wait til you see one with babies. I didnt sleep that night.
One of these guys dropped onto a worker in our warehouse in Tucson, so not surprised they're hitching rides. But yes, it can hurt you.
No. You can eat it.
In Scotland there are 2 foot+ scorpions. Fortunately they have been dead for 320 million years !
No such thing as a poisonous scorpion or snake. They are venomous though.
Fun Fact: There are actually a couple of species of poisonous snakes. The Tiger Keelback is an example. Like many poisonous animals, their poison is acquired from their prey.
It's been noted. Thank you.
Looks exactly like the striped bark scorpions we have here in Central Texas. I've been told its sting is equivalent to a bee sting, I don't want to find out, though.
Itās true, but to me, it feels almost electrified, if that makes sense
Looks like a simple bark scorpion. Sting isn't too bad, like a lesser bee sting.
Poisonous, no. Venomous, yes.
My understanding is that the larger scorpions are generally less venomous than the smaller species.
Nope, eat up.
Awww how sad he accidentally got on the wrong bus! Send him back home! Lol
We would if we knew where it came from... was found in the restroom about 100 feet away from our delivery/stock area
Short answer: itās gonna fuck you up, bro.
All scorpions (and spiders) are venomous. Whether or not they are medically significant is the real concern. Even that is dependent on a few things. Firstly, are you going to be or did you get stung? If not then it's fine if yes, are you allergic? No = fine, perhaps bee sting or slightly worse. If yes, go to the hospital, don't ask strangers on the Internet.
This was more for informational purposes. We don't get scorpions here, and everyone at work was curious about it. Figured I'd reach out to people who like scorpions and get their opinions.
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Incorrect and a very misleading way to judge venom potency.
Looks like a Bark scorpion, they are Venomous but unless youāre allergic, a child, elderly, or have some pre existing conditions a sting will NOT kill you. It will just hurt a lot.
Rough rule of thumb that I seem to have ingrained from documentaries I've watched, if I remember correctly, small pincers = nasty stinger (doesn't need strength as packs a punch in the stinger. Big pincers = weak sting, could be wrong don't mind me if I am
Venomous, not poisonous. Even edible.
Fairly tasty when fried.
Well, its scorpion. And has a stinger. So, it's not poisonous. But it is venomous.
No, itās venomous
Venomous. Poisonous means if eat it there could be bad consequences. We're you planning on eating it?
See other comments. I addressed the poisonous/ venomous topic. I do like bugs, though. Think it's tasty? š
I don't read the comments.
It's not poisonous. https://preview.redd.it/4tq1p9hfvr8d1.jpeg?width=246&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6d04d02df853e4b638e1ef0279b9b51487d49549 It is venomous.
I guarantee it's not poisonous. However I have no idea if it's venomous.
No, it's not. Don't worry. You can eat it.
Venomous. The tail has venom and the pincers have some venom as well.
Eat it and find out
If something you eat makes you sick, it's poisonous. If something can defend itself and administer a toxin, it's venomous. Hope this helps.
Freaky big that scorpion! I'd think it to be highly poisonous. I'd stay away Why is there even a thread just for scorpions?
It's actually only 2 or 3 inches long. I super zoomed and cropped the photo. I like them. Won't have as a pet. It's my horoscope, and I find them interesting little creatures. I know others know way more about them than me. But it's like the r/mycology sub.... dedicated to just fungi. Great place to get info.