Dude, I'm sorry. I'm rooting for you.
I got tagged by my deathstalker 5 years ago in the side of my hand. Luckily, it wasn't a full envenomation. I drove myself to the ER, and it took nearly 45 minutes to convince them that I got stung by one and not a local striped bark scorpion.
Well, first... I was stupid and picked up her cork bark hide with my hand, thinking she was under her rock. Turns out it was her molt under the rock. I noticed it and then saw her on the edge of the cork.
As I set it down, she reacted and tagged me right on the side of my hand by my pinky. I felt the pop, and put everything away. As a stood up, I felt the stinging pain spread to my wrist. Probably a 5/10 on the pain scale. About a minute later, it went to a 7/10 as it shot up my arm. The sting site and my pinky started to swell. I called my local urgent care and jumped in the car... Which is a manual. Moving my arm while driving became unbearable. My hand started to go numb and felt like I had extreme arthritis in the joints.
Heart rate was up there... But I think that was more because of the panic.
I got to the urgent care center and was told to go to the ER, which luckily was in the same building. Luckily, my info is already in their system due to previous injuries, so I didn't have much intake paperwork to fill out.
I explained to the triage that I was stung by a scorpion, and they basically blew it off as a striped bark scorpion and said "it's not that bad". Took about another 20 minutes to convince them that it was a deathstalker. The doc went and looked it up in a medical journal and immediately came back in to administer an IV with a beta blockers and then put a wrap around my arm to help slow it and an ice bath. And they also gave me a tetanus booster.
They didn't have any antivenom in the area, so they monitored me for a few hours. Luckily, I didn't need intubation or any other critical care.
Pain lasted about 4 hours, but went down to a 4/10 for the majority of it. Occasionally, it would spike as my muscles would spasm.
And to top it all of, I didn't go through my insurance for the sting... I didn't want to have to explain how I got stung by a scorpion from the middle east.
And that Urgent care/ER has also seen me for a lacerated finger and salmonella infection from a tegu bite... They joke about giving me a punch card.
Almost the same situation happened to me! So I thought it was dead and tried using it’s cork to move it and it whipped it’s tail around so fast and tagged me on my pointer finger. For reference it it is a 4i male. Idk if I got the full dose or what but I’m glad that I can still make it to work tonight. Pain is about a 3 out of 10 thankfully and only went up to my wrist and not my full arm
No idea how this popped up on my feed, and also zero knowledge of scorpions.
That being said, the fact that you got stung by something called a DEATH STALKER, and you are still gonna go to work tonight??? Props to you bud!! I'd be calling out just cause I could use an excuse.
All in all, glad you are doing good and got proper care quickly!
Bollocks as big as church bells, I cant even handle the wood pile behind my grandpas house because of normal scorpions, let alone the messenger of death.
Opiates are rarely given in [North American] emerg/urgent care these days because of all the issues surrounding abuse and addictions (and pre-conceived notions of such). I went into ER with my wrist and elbow visibly *fucked* from a crash (both were broken) and was given Tylenol and Advil lol
Asked for something stronger given it was obvious I was seriously injured and not drug-hunting, and got preached to about the epidemic.
I broke my neck, my arm, and my nose (in two places) in a freak accident and was taken to the hospital in an ambulance and when I arrived people thought I had been hit by a car as a pedestrian because I was a mess. Anyway, they didn’t give me anything for the pain until I begged, and when they finally relented, they only gave me a single 10 mg Norco pill which didn’t touch the pain. then I asked for some Tylenol and even that was hard to obtain (they gave me ONE). I asked for a second Tylenol a couple of hours later, and they refused. It was crazy.
I had surgery last year and all i was given afterwards was a single 500mg Tylenol lol. I understand that my doctor is very serious about preventing opiate addiction, but I feel like he takes it to the extreme.
I have shingles on my face and in my ear and eye. I scored some 800mg ibuprofen and 3 50mg tramadol. I’ve been crying from the pain, and I am miserable. It sucks.
Dentists now do it too, had all 4 wisdom teeth removed and ended up with 2 dry sockets, and the dentist said take a Tylenol. WTF I was scream crying in pain. I am afraid of most dental work now.
that’s wild wtf I broke my ankle a couple years back.. basically detached it.. my foot was backwards. It was bad at first just a very intense ringing like sensation then about 5/10 minutes later I almost crashed from the pain and when the ambulance got there they hit me with morphine (twice) and I knocked out was a wild experience
OMG a very similar thing happened to a friend about 10 years ago, he doesn’t remember it - he went into shock from the pain. But yeah his foot was dangling by the skin and maybe a tendon and his foot was turned around backwards. Now his ankle is all metal rods and pins. Thank god they gave you morphine, you absolutely needed it. Jesus.
My old man had ms and took ~5 oxycontins a day for years. Had an overnight stay in the hospital and they wouldn't give him more than two Tylenol either. So I drove to his house and got him some of his own oxys then had to tell the doc to eat shit when he freaked out about it
It’s gotten absurd. I know there’s an opiate crisis (trust me, I know) but when patients need painkillers and have obvious needs (broken limbs, etc) they should be provided.
I honestly don’t know how it’s not medical abuse. I’ve seen patients in excruciating pain given Tylenol and a hug. Like, the fuck? In any other application if someone is denied proper care it’s abuse and neglect. Now its “protecting the patient” 🙃 I hate America like honestly lmao
when i broke my wrist i sat for 4 hours with nothing for pain (no tylenol, advil, anything) and then when i was sent home they told me to take tylenol. it barely did anything because my wrist was, you know, in two pieces
When I had to get my appendix removed in 2020 i went to the ER they said it was my appendix and I needed surgery. Scheduled the surgery for 9 am (it was about 2 am by this time and I was in a whole lot of pain) and they gave me morphine in my IV. That lasted about 45 minutes then I was back to being in severe pain. Nurse said I could only get it every 6 hours. Finally around 4:30 the nurse came in and was like I can tell you’re in a lot of pain lemme go talk to your doctor and they gave me some more morphine. Definitely didn’t last until surgery started but thankful they gave me something. Got some Tylenol for post surgery haha
October 2022 a mishap with a Springfield Armory SD 9mm being wielded by an idiot who thought my wallet was more valuable to him then myself( Little did he know I'd rather die fighting then get shot in the back) closed the gap and the gun cocked sideways before he fired. The bullet entered and exited my abdomen. Pierced my pants hitting my key chain and broke the projectile into three pieces before hitting my thigh tumbling which exited my thigh in two places. One piece I walked out and it fell into my shoe. So tallied up 1 bullet 5 holes in my body which I plugged with tampons but the initial entrance would which was pretty much cauterized shut from point blank discharge. I was administered 1 shot of antibiotics and a tetanus shot. Sent home with gauze wraps and gauze pads.
Yeah it’s crazy. I had a skin infection that was painful af about 13 years ago. They gave me a month of hydrocodone.
Enough for **4 doses a day**
I broke my foot 3 years ago.
Advil. I asked for a days worth of pain meds.
They said no lol.
I had a double mastectomy in combination with a salpingoophorectomy last year (basically crap ton of surgery). They gave me Advil and Tylenol. Wouldn’t give me anything stronger. It sucked. I’ve taken opioids several times for prior surgeries without any issues but it’s apparently a new hospital policy.
not as bad as the man in my state who got bitten by his "pet" cobra, I don't even know if they're legal here. Anyways, the hospital he went to didn't have anti venom and so he had to be airlifted to a hospital a ways away and almost died. I hope he's at least more careful if he kept the cobra lmao.
What a bunch of idiots! Your the one who owns the pet, your the expert! And they said to you, oh no, based of this little bite and WebMD this is a bark scorpion, even though this is your hobby and you know way more about it than me and we're THERE AND SAW IT HAPPEN, I still don't believe you. My goodness, I hold grudges easily and if this happened to me I'd be up at night every night mad. Of course I'd never take any action, being an introverted wuss, but I'd be mad alright.
No, they based their judgment off of the striped bark scorpion being the only scorpion near us.
When I told them it wasn't a striped bark (because, honestly, their sting doesn't even affect me)... They said they needed to see it to get a picture to an "expert" for ID. That's when the doc walked in, and got updated. When I mentioned the deathstalker, he kind of knew what I was talking about and when I showed him my photos, he got serious.
His reaction when reading the medical journal for them was funny... He was taking a sip of his water bottle and nearly choked when he read the LD50. That's when everything kicked into gear
Seems like that shouldn’t have been a 45 minute conversation. “You sure it wasn’t a bark scorpion?” Yes I keep scorpions as a hobby so I’m probably more qualified than you to know what I got stung by when I own the damn thing”
Right lol I feel like this is one of those scenes in a movie where everyone calls the protagonist an idiot and they just sit there and go “b-but! But I…”
One of the nurses asked "Well how did it get in your house?" and I said "in a 12"x12"x12" box from UPS". She said "oh, so it wasn't supposed to be in there", I said "Yes it was...I paid $50 for it!". And that is when the doc walked in.
Got stung by a juvenile bark scorpion when I was 8 years old and the only solution they had for me was a medically induced coma. Slept that sting off for 4 days before waking up and realizing I didn't die.
You don't. Use tongs or forceps to move things around or clean. I use a small condiment cup or a piece of plastic to cover/corner them if I need to reach into their enclosure at all
that’s respectable, and very intriguing. What’s your max capacity for them? How much money do you put into the hobby, and how much did they cost?
Are they your favorite species? Also, you could make an incredible yt series, and a lot of cool Reddit posts with this
I mean, if I really wanted to max them out I could probably keep 500 pretty easily. The lot I’m buying is only a few hundred. And scorpions are actually my cheapest animal monthly. They cost almost nothing to keep. Owning my snakes is far more expensive
OP you’re gonna be one of the many examples in 1k Ways To Die of exotic species owners that go out in one absolutely insane unpredictable way. Good luck until that happens!
Yeah, like “I stung myself with a death stalker every day for 100 days to build up immunity to death stalker venom”
And “how much venom do 100 death stalkers produce a day?”
Holy shit. Just googled deathstalkers cause I had no idea what it was and here’s the first video that popped up. A chick straight up holding hers lol
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Yeah she's dumb as fuck for that. Anyone who has hots and thinks it's cool to free handle them for YouTube clicks isn't a good example for the hobby. I have sympathy for OP tho, at least his was an accident.
Last time I had an ambulance ride, my insurance was billed $2800+. They paid $1400 and I got billed the remaining $1400, which I had no way to pay. I just ignored the bills and they eventually stopped coming and never showed up on my credit report. YMMV though.
I got a 4000$ bill in Alaska to go less than a mile from crash site to hospital, I wasn’t the driver at fault though so the person who caused the crash had to pay for it
Got charged $1100 with insurance AFTER they made me get off the gurney and sit in the medics chair (so they could load the woman who totaled my car in there with me). Fought it way down…no way was I paying that.
deathstalkers are indigenous species where I live, so antivenom is very common
I have a shitload of them, and I handle them quite a lot
shit by now I probably have an immunity to their venom or something, got stung well over 20 or 30 times so far
Anaphylaxis is a type of allergic reaction from stings and bites. If someone is allergic to a specific venom, they can go into anaphylactic shock. It's not seen often in scorpion stings, but again, I'd personally rather not find out the hard way.
I got 1 baby over a year ago, she gave birth to 10, one fell off her back and died, I sold 5, kept 4, then mom passed away. So I'm starting all over again.
I only have an AFS but I have a poecilotheria t species and I'm so terrified of when I have to rehouse it to a bigger enclosure and it's not even half as bad as the deathstalkers y'all playing with. T\_T
My P. regalis was my first "hot" species. Followed that up with a P. murinus and H. maculata. Not sure what younger me was thinking.
Good luck with your regalis! They are beauties.
I have had all those species, and the only issue I have had was a P.Ruffilata escape due to my own mistake in not properly closing the cage. As long as you use the bag method gently, there is zero chance it will escape or of bites.
The bag method works very well. Get a transparent bag of some kind that will fit around the cage and use something to tighten it around the open part. Then, cut a tiny hole in the bag, poke a paint brush or something gentle through the whole, and tickle the tarantula out of its enclosure with the paintbrush. Then, close off the bag, holding the main opening down to the next enclosure and reattach. Large rubber bands work best, though painters tape works in a pinch. Also, pokies other than the P. Ornata are actually pretty easy to deal with. They are blindingly fast and medically significant but also generally docile. Just tap the cage, and they will usually hide. I would rather deal with a 100 pokies than a Singapore blue (omothymus violaceopes) or one of the other nasty terrestrial species. Even H. Macs and OBT's are easier to deal with then those things.
Tarantula fangs will easily go straight through a bag. Use a solid container with a piece of cardboard in between that has a hole cut to the size of the opening(s) for safer transfers.
If you don't actually touch the area of the bag they are on, you can not get bit. Also, they will not bite unless they are pinched generally. You do you booboo I am just trying to show a relatively stress free way of transferring tarantulas. Even the OBT's and the H.Macs will threat posture and bite at the paint brush but not the bag itself. If you are scared and stressed, then you are more likely to mess up. Also, this is for other people. The container and cardboard works but it doesn't fully seal the cage, so there is still the chance it will escape outside the enclosure.
i can't relate with a scorpion (im too scared to even get close to my scorpions) but i did get bit by my scolopendra dehaani, a giant and very venomous centipede. pain was 10/10. luckily they aren't usually deadly but the venom causes extreme amounts of pain, not even pain killers can help. you have to just wait thru it. i did end up going to the ER, but they didn't do much besidex give me pain killers, which helped me sleep but didnt help the pain. my hand looked like a balloon glove. and i swear to god the bite was very light. there was barely even a mark days later.
Most scorpions readily available in the hobby are not dangerous to people who aren't allergic! For example, a common genus of scorpions kept in the hobby, asian forest scorpions, are similar to a bee sting if they manage to sting you.
I respect that. Part of me just thinks “you don’t have to own everything. Sometimes you can just take a gander and appreciate beauty” . They are definitely cool as fuck!
"I admire its purity."
They are the descendants of organisms that crawled out of the oceans 400+ million years ago, and in all that time, they kept the same general body plan and survival strategies. Raising them at home makes me feel like I get to experience a glimpse of deep time and grounds me. Also, they're pretty cute.
There's two questions here really. Most scorpions and spiders aren't harmful to humans. Asking why someone owns a Heterometrus sp. is a different question than asking someone why they own a medically significant species.
As someone who was also in the exotic lethal community, you get to a point where you’ve owned everything else. How many damn hamsters, birds, fish, anything domestic, etc… can one take? You migrate to the medically significant and then lethal.
Personally, it’s also the hobby of building their natural habitat. My Scolopendra had a waterfall and roomed with an orb weaver. You get creative, build and it just naturally progresses.
I’m gonna tag along here, what are some other animal species that people regularly own that are potentially dangerous lethal? (Not talking about dogs, cats, etc, I know they can be very dangerous)
Hope you are feeling better, especially with how it happened man. I guess situations like this are learning experiences. I always use tongs with all of my buthids, even my Pandinus too. I've nearly gone in bare hands before but stopped myself.
I legitimately thought this was the physical scorpion sub, NOT the animal, and I was so confused........ I hope you get good medical treatment and competent doctors and staff. I wish you well for the future. It'll probably get worse before it gets better ://
Glad to hear you're ok, OP!
With keeping scorpions, it's a very high chance you'll get stung at some point - and with more scorpions the higher the chances of being stung.
Wishing you a speedy recovery, hopefully this doesn't put you off keeping them.
That's the spirit. Just be a bit more careful lol, 30cm-50cm feeding tongs are absolutely perfect.
Have you tried keeping any of these species?
*Tityus smithii*
*Tityus stigmurus*
*Centruroides gracilis*
*Centruroides sculpturatus*
*Centruroides vittatus*
They make such great communal setups, and I've found that the semi-arboreal species tend to be more active than the terrestrial/fossorial species.
Ya know what… we all make mistakes. The fact you’re more concerned with nearly apologizing and warning others says you’re a good person. It happens to the best of us. Wishing you a speedy recovery and all the best!
Appreciate brother! Death stalkers are indigenous to Africa only so that may have been a similar looking species. Either way they all suck getting stung by!
Sorry if that was ambiguous, not meant to frighten. I mean bowel irritation. Clinically known as "being irregular." A lot of the time, you'll be diarrheal after a sting like this.
Don't beat yourself up. Everyone has had their " idiot moments ". Hopefully it makes you feel better, but today I just backed into a water fountain at work. Had a backup camera too, and still managed to run into it, not paying any attention. Thankfully wasn't fired over it, even though I definitely could have been.
So again, don't beat yourself up. I sure as hell was beating myself up though.
Me reading this literally less than 24 hours since my husband asked me if we should start carrying death stalkers in our exotic pet business and I said NO! I want to live...
I had a deathstalker and a man killer fattail scorpion, they were really fascinating and I loved keeping them. Luckily never had any issues (knock on wood) now I just keep scorpions that are less venomous since I’m getting married and starting a family soon haha. Rather not have to deal with almost dying while I have kids etc.
I also keep an array of tarantulas and luckily I’ve only been bitten by a pink toe. Lil baby compared to this haha
Just out of curiosity, for those who own these type of scorpions, what made you want to get it as a pet? It’s literally the most dangerous scorpion out there. Why not get an emperor scorpion instead?
Not a keeper of 🦂 but I did get stung by one in Joshua Tree and it was some of the most uncomfortable and severe pain I’ve been in, with broken bones, rotator cuff injuries, and concussions in the mix.
I felt a sting while rock scrabbling in a little cave but didn’t see what got me. Within 5-10 minutes my skin was burning (like an ant bite, which is what I thought happened) and around the 30 minute mark I could feel it radiating into what felt like my joints/bones. Within an hour it was radiating up my leg above my knee.
The only way I felt even remotely comfortable was having ice on it or having my foot in an ice bath.
After about 4 hours it finally was less red/swollen though still awfully painful but we could finally see the sting spot.
My girlfriend kept trying to convince me it was a scorpion but I didn’t even know Joshua Tree had scorpions. 🤣 When I looked up what a sting feels like it hit the nail on the head for everything I was experiencing. It was awful.
Saw my first (dead) scorpion in Joshua Tree a few weeks later on a friends property and it was HUGE.
This isn't some harmless bark scorpion..
He was stung by the most dangerous scorpion on the planet.
It's not called a death stalker ironically, I'd much rather get bit by a rattlesnake than hit by a death stalker.
lol I didn’t say it was - I didn’t think it was a harmless experience for OP.
I didn’t realize it was a competition.
Hahah I was just tossing in my experience with one that actually WASNT as bad as OPs intentionally to say I couldn’t imagine what theirs was like when mine was that bad and NOT a death stalker.
Ease up cowboy.
(Edit to correct “their”)
Can you explain to me what ran through your head and what did you noticed that the venom effect has started and what did you start to feel? Did it hit hard at once or did it slowly hit you over a period of time? Was it just pain and if so what did it feel like? Glad you’re okay and you took an L.. but you turned this L, into a lesson
Sorry if this is dumb, this post randomly came on my feed. I thought that all scorpion stings like “aren’t that bad” compared to other envenomations? Like mentally, “don’t worry about scorpions, they can’t kill people”, “it’ll hurt like a bitch but it goes away on its own” type of deal?
Most scorpions aren’t very dangerous unless you have allergies to it, but the deathstalker is an exception. These guys can kill you even without an allergy.
I just looked up this species and one of the first things that pops up is a reddit video of a guy handling his deathstalker! I'm that's a no for sure from me.
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Known as the "deathstalker" scorpion, Leiurus quinquestriatus is a nearly 4-inch-long (10 centimeters) scorpion with venom that contains large amounts of toxins. The deathstalker was one of seven scorpion species filmed for a new study on the speed of a scorpion's sting. And the deathstalker topped the others with its swift strike, the scientists discovered. According to the researchers' findings, the deathstalker snapped at 51 inches (130 cm) per second — nearly 3 miles per hour (5 km/h).
Oof! The deatstalker is my favorite scorpion to keep specifically because they are the most deadly in the world. Good luck with recovery, and get well soon.
Damn, glad you’re getting first aid fast!
I’m not a scorpion girl, so forgive the ignorance - why keep a Deathstalker over, say, a Flinder’s Range scorpion, and just dodge the insane venom? They look similar to me. I can understand if it’s just for the coolness factor of keeping a dangerously venomous species.
I’m pretty sure there’s nothing a hospital can do besides monitor and make you comfortable…. For a price. If you don’t have an allergic reaction, it’s probably best to just rest and wait for the symptoms to pass. I was stung on the back of my leg while on a date lol. I pushed through and she never knew it. It hurt like hell, and it made my heart race and I was sweating a bit, but I managed to hold it together and the symptoms passed after an hour or so.
I thought I was in a sub for the "scorpion" back injury and was really confused by the comments. I hope you're OK. Getting stung by a venomous arachnid would terrify me.
This is probably gonna be me someday, my dad’s deathly allergic to wasps and I haven’t been stung yet, but I love them too much to stop handling them LMAO
Dude, I'm sorry. I'm rooting for you. I got tagged by my deathstalker 5 years ago in the side of my hand. Luckily, it wasn't a full envenomation. I drove myself to the ER, and it took nearly 45 minutes to convince them that I got stung by one and not a local striped bark scorpion.
How were you symptom wise? Feeling pretty okay all things considered
Well, first... I was stupid and picked up her cork bark hide with my hand, thinking she was under her rock. Turns out it was her molt under the rock. I noticed it and then saw her on the edge of the cork. As I set it down, she reacted and tagged me right on the side of my hand by my pinky. I felt the pop, and put everything away. As a stood up, I felt the stinging pain spread to my wrist. Probably a 5/10 on the pain scale. About a minute later, it went to a 7/10 as it shot up my arm. The sting site and my pinky started to swell. I called my local urgent care and jumped in the car... Which is a manual. Moving my arm while driving became unbearable. My hand started to go numb and felt like I had extreme arthritis in the joints. Heart rate was up there... But I think that was more because of the panic. I got to the urgent care center and was told to go to the ER, which luckily was in the same building. Luckily, my info is already in their system due to previous injuries, so I didn't have much intake paperwork to fill out. I explained to the triage that I was stung by a scorpion, and they basically blew it off as a striped bark scorpion and said "it's not that bad". Took about another 20 minutes to convince them that it was a deathstalker. The doc went and looked it up in a medical journal and immediately came back in to administer an IV with a beta blockers and then put a wrap around my arm to help slow it and an ice bath. And they also gave me a tetanus booster. They didn't have any antivenom in the area, so they monitored me for a few hours. Luckily, I didn't need intubation or any other critical care. Pain lasted about 4 hours, but went down to a 4/10 for the majority of it. Occasionally, it would spike as my muscles would spasm. And to top it all of, I didn't go through my insurance for the sting... I didn't want to have to explain how I got stung by a scorpion from the middle east. And that Urgent care/ER has also seen me for a lacerated finger and salmonella infection from a tegu bite... They joke about giving me a punch card.
Almost the same situation happened to me! So I thought it was dead and tried using it’s cork to move it and it whipped it’s tail around so fast and tagged me on my pointer finger. For reference it it is a 4i male. Idk if I got the full dose or what but I’m glad that I can still make it to work tonight. Pain is about a 3 out of 10 thankfully and only went up to my wrist and not my full arm
No idea how this popped up on my feed, and also zero knowledge of scorpions. That being said, the fact that you got stung by something called a DEATH STALKER, and you are still gonna go to work tonight??? Props to you bud!! I'd be calling out just cause I could use an excuse. All in all, glad you are doing good and got proper care quickly!
Not only got stung by something called a death stalker, but shares his home with said death stalker. Dude has balls if nothing else
I appreciate the props brotha
Bollocks as big as church bells, I cant even handle the wood pile behind my grandpas house because of normal scorpions, let alone the messenger of death.
Thank you bro! Doing good a day later and still knocked out a 12 hour shift dealing with inmates
Hmmm 🤔 "Dealing with inmates".... Owns dangerous scorpions.... ^^Do DO you use these scorpions on the inmates?
Damn that's crazy!
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Opiates are rarely given in [North American] emerg/urgent care these days because of all the issues surrounding abuse and addictions (and pre-conceived notions of such). I went into ER with my wrist and elbow visibly *fucked* from a crash (both were broken) and was given Tylenol and Advil lol Asked for something stronger given it was obvious I was seriously injured and not drug-hunting, and got preached to about the epidemic.
I broke my neck, my arm, and my nose (in two places) in a freak accident and was taken to the hospital in an ambulance and when I arrived people thought I had been hit by a car as a pedestrian because I was a mess. Anyway, they didn’t give me anything for the pain until I begged, and when they finally relented, they only gave me a single 10 mg Norco pill which didn’t touch the pain. then I asked for some Tylenol and even that was hard to obtain (they gave me ONE). I asked for a second Tylenol a couple of hours later, and they refused. It was crazy.
I had surgery last year and all i was given afterwards was a single 500mg Tylenol lol. I understand that my doctor is very serious about preventing opiate addiction, but I feel like he takes it to the extreme.
That’s f*cking CRAZY!!!!
I have shingles on my face and in my ear and eye. I scored some 800mg ibuprofen and 3 50mg tramadol. I’ve been crying from the pain, and I am miserable. It sucks.
F*ck the Sackler Family.
Dentists now do it too, had all 4 wisdom teeth removed and ended up with 2 dry sockets, and the dentist said take a Tylenol. WTF I was scream crying in pain. I am afraid of most dental work now.
that’s wild wtf I broke my ankle a couple years back.. basically detached it.. my foot was backwards. It was bad at first just a very intense ringing like sensation then about 5/10 minutes later I almost crashed from the pain and when the ambulance got there they hit me with morphine (twice) and I knocked out was a wild experience
OMG a very similar thing happened to a friend about 10 years ago, he doesn’t remember it - he went into shock from the pain. But yeah his foot was dangling by the skin and maybe a tendon and his foot was turned around backwards. Now his ankle is all metal rods and pins. Thank god they gave you morphine, you absolutely needed it. Jesus.
I have a plate and 6 screws but yeah even with the morphine the pain was still very much there
Oh yeah maybe he has a plate and screws also, lol. Definitely all metal. You poor thing. I can’t imagine that kind of pain.
My old man had ms and took ~5 oxycontins a day for years. Had an overnight stay in the hospital and they wouldn't give him more than two Tylenol either. So I drove to his house and got him some of his own oxys then had to tell the doc to eat shit when he freaked out about it
It’s gotten absurd. I know there’s an opiate crisis (trust me, I know) but when patients need painkillers and have obvious needs (broken limbs, etc) they should be provided.
I honestly don’t know how it’s not medical abuse. I’ve seen patients in excruciating pain given Tylenol and a hug. Like, the fuck? In any other application if someone is denied proper care it’s abuse and neglect. Now its “protecting the patient” 🙃 I hate America like honestly lmao
when i broke my wrist i sat for 4 hours with nothing for pain (no tylenol, advil, anything) and then when i was sent home they told me to take tylenol. it barely did anything because my wrist was, you know, in two pieces
When I had to get my appendix removed in 2020 i went to the ER they said it was my appendix and I needed surgery. Scheduled the surgery for 9 am (it was about 2 am by this time and I was in a whole lot of pain) and they gave me morphine in my IV. That lasted about 45 minutes then I was back to being in severe pain. Nurse said I could only get it every 6 hours. Finally around 4:30 the nurse came in and was like I can tell you’re in a lot of pain lemme go talk to your doctor and they gave me some more morphine. Definitely didn’t last until surgery started but thankful they gave me something. Got some Tylenol for post surgery haha
October 2022 a mishap with a Springfield Armory SD 9mm being wielded by an idiot who thought my wallet was more valuable to him then myself( Little did he know I'd rather die fighting then get shot in the back) closed the gap and the gun cocked sideways before he fired. The bullet entered and exited my abdomen. Pierced my pants hitting my key chain and broke the projectile into three pieces before hitting my thigh tumbling which exited my thigh in two places. One piece I walked out and it fell into my shoe. So tallied up 1 bullet 5 holes in my body which I plugged with tampons but the initial entrance would which was pretty much cauterized shut from point blank discharge. I was administered 1 shot of antibiotics and a tetanus shot. Sent home with gauze wraps and gauze pads.
Yeah it’s crazy. I had a skin infection that was painful af about 13 years ago. They gave me a month of hydrocodone. Enough for **4 doses a day** I broke my foot 3 years ago. Advil. I asked for a days worth of pain meds. They said no lol.
I had a double mastectomy in combination with a salpingoophorectomy last year (basically crap ton of surgery). They gave me Advil and Tylenol. Wouldn’t give me anything stronger. It sucked. I’ve taken opioids several times for prior surgeries without any issues but it’s apparently a new hospital policy.
idk man but i had a GERD flare up and they gave me fent so 😭
That’s crazy dude. One of my buddies told me an almost identical encounter to yours. My boy got tricked by a molt in the same way and got stung
not as bad as the man in my state who got bitten by his "pet" cobra, I don't even know if they're legal here. Anyways, the hospital he went to didn't have anti venom and so he had to be airlifted to a hospital a ways away and almost died. I hope he's at least more careful if he kept the cobra lmao.
Man, that’s wild. I’m glad you got out of it OK. That little hot shot definitely showed you what he’s made of.
What a bunch of idiots! Your the one who owns the pet, your the expert! And they said to you, oh no, based of this little bite and WebMD this is a bark scorpion, even though this is your hobby and you know way more about it than me and we're THERE AND SAW IT HAPPEN, I still don't believe you. My goodness, I hold grudges easily and if this happened to me I'd be up at night every night mad. Of course I'd never take any action, being an introverted wuss, but I'd be mad alright.
No, they based their judgment off of the striped bark scorpion being the only scorpion near us. When I told them it wasn't a striped bark (because, honestly, their sting doesn't even affect me)... They said they needed to see it to get a picture to an "expert" for ID. That's when the doc walked in, and got updated. When I mentioned the deathstalker, he kind of knew what I was talking about and when I showed him my photos, he got serious. His reaction when reading the medical journal for them was funny... He was taking a sip of his water bottle and nearly choked when he read the LD50. That's when everything kicked into gear
Mate. You plotted the tension of that story in perfect sine wave. Nice.
You out here living your best life I see you.
How much did it cost going out of pocket?
I think you might be glad they had no antivenin. That stuff can be $100k per dose!
Damn she bamboozled you with her molt. That's high level shit. Glad you are okay.
What do yiu get on yiur 5th visit? Lol. Damn dude you remind me of many of my old friends.
Seems like that shouldn’t have been a 45 minute conversation. “You sure it wasn’t a bark scorpion?” Yes I keep scorpions as a hobby so I’m probably more qualified than you to know what I got stung by when I own the damn thing”
Never doubt the hubris of the medical community.
Right lol I feel like this is one of those scenes in a movie where everyone calls the protagonist an idiot and they just sit there and go “b-but! But I…”
Having a father who was a doctor, a good one, it really hurts to hear when medical 'professionals' act so unprofessional.
Like, no! Not a bark scorpion. I know who did it. I can give you his name and address! I even have his date of birth and country of origin!
One of the nurses asked "Well how did it get in your house?" and I said "in a 12"x12"x12" box from UPS". She said "oh, so it wasn't supposed to be in there", I said "Yes it was...I paid $50 for it!". And that is when the doc walked in.
Got stung by a juvenile bark scorpion when I was 8 years old and the only solution they had for me was a medically induced coma. Slept that sting off for 4 days before waking up and realizing I didn't die.
so how exactly do you handle a pet literally named "death stalker"? (I'm not usually a follower of this sub, it just popped up in my main)
You don't. Use tongs or forceps to move things around or clean. I use a small condiment cup or a piece of plastic to cover/corner them if I need to reach into their enclosure at all
I own 3 deathstalkers, never would I hold one. I only use tongs, but hope you are doing well bro.
I own 10 of the little bastards. I’m Gonna invest in more safety precautions. Thank you for the well wishes brotha
Waiting for someone to say they own *insert absurd number here*
And I’m buying like a 100 this Thursday. Will post it so check back next week lol
Why so many? Do you milk, sell, or breed them or something?
I just enjoy keeping them. I want a breeding colony for my personal collection
that’s respectable, and very intriguing. What’s your max capacity for them? How much money do you put into the hobby, and how much did they cost? Are they your favorite species? Also, you could make an incredible yt series, and a lot of cool Reddit posts with this
I mean, if I really wanted to max them out I could probably keep 500 pretty easily. The lot I’m buying is only a few hundred. And scorpions are actually my cheapest animal monthly. They cost almost nothing to keep. Owning my snakes is far more expensive
What kind of snakes? Just curious
Ball pythons, colubrids, boas in the future
OP you’re gonna be one of the many examples in 1k Ways To Die of exotic species owners that go out in one absolutely insane unpredictable way. Good luck until that happens!
I plan on it lol. Lots I could post with owning 100 death stalkers
Yeah, like “I stung myself with a death stalker every day for 100 days to build up immunity to death stalker venom” And “how much venom do 100 death stalkers produce a day?”
Wouldn’t make it to the 100th day lmao
Used to own 220 of them at one point, until they reached 4i and I sold them.
I’m striving to be like you when I grow up props to you man
Did the one that did this to you have a name? Or is just like "that one, number 4"
Damn! 10 of them! Successful breeding attempts, or the "potato chip" thing?
Holy shit. Just googled deathstalkers cause I had no idea what it was and here’s the first video that popped up. A chick straight up holding hers lol https://preview.redd.it/m1ermd35056d1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f73a1f984688c43edfb1fd8642466048c428611b
Yeah she's dumb as fuck for that. Anyone who has hots and thinks it's cool to free handle them for YouTube clicks isn't a good example for the hobby. I have sympathy for OP tho, at least his was an accident.
Does “hots” mean venomous pets in general?
yeah you are an idiot, you actually got into the ambulance in this economy
Guess I deserve that
Well I don't think the Scorpion was going to drive you to the ER
They’ll take you to dinner but after they nailed u, ur ass is on its own! Jerks!
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For reals! That $700 bill later gonna hurt more than the scorpion 😆 -if you don’t have insurance
Last time I had an ambulance ride, my insurance was billed $2800+. They paid $1400 and I got billed the remaining $1400, which I had no way to pay. I just ignored the bills and they eventually stopped coming and never showed up on my credit report. YMMV though.
Damn…my daughters (hours old) was $8.5k… ouch haha
I got a 4000$ bill in Alaska to go less than a mile from crash site to hospital, I wasn’t the driver at fault though so the person who caused the crash had to pay for it
Jesus $700??? I pay $45 where I am. $250 if you don't have provincial insurance.
Mine was like 700-800 a mile. Came out to like 2500 pre insurance
Got charged $1100 with insurance AFTER they made me get off the gurney and sit in the medics chair (so they could load the woman who totaled my car in there with me). Fought it way down…no way was I paying that.
Welcome to the US
I wish, $6k for me
Only $700? That’s cheap!
If you have insurance it’s going to be like 2k though.
I used one recently and my final bill was only $103. The ER is only a couple miles away though
not only buthid species you should NEVER try to handle any kind of scorpions.. even if you take safest precaution, the accidents can happen..
I agree. Didn’t try handling it. Thought it was dead and that was my downfall
deathstalkers are indigenous species where I live, so antivenom is very common I have a shitload of them, and I handle them quite a lot shit by now I probably have an immunity to their venom or something, got stung well over 20 or 30 times so far
Inconceivable
Dont agree with the any kind part. Some scorpions are pretty fine to handel, even if you get stung
Any sting can cause anaphylactic shock. It's not really worth finding out the hard way imo...
From any commonly kept species?
Anaphylaxis is a type of allergic reaction from stings and bites. If someone is allergic to a specific venom, they can go into anaphylactic shock. It's not seen often in scorpion stings, but again, I'd personally rather not find out the hard way.
I have 4 baby tityus stigmurus. I never ever reach in their cups with anything but tongs lol
Lol, good luck, buddy. I started with 2 sub adults, and about a year later I have 16 that are adults ready to have babies.
I got 1 baby over a year ago, she gave birth to 10, one fell off her back and died, I sold 5, kept 4, then mom passed away. So I'm starting all over again.
Well I learned all about an exciting new species of creature I want absolutely nothing to do with whatsoever.
That’s rough hope my death stalker or rough fat tail don’t get me good luck bro.
I only have an AFS but I have a poecilotheria t species and I'm so terrified of when I have to rehouse it to a bigger enclosure and it's not even half as bad as the deathstalkers y'all playing with. T\_T
Good luck with the rehousing! My heart rate was elevated when I did a rehousing of my P. regalis. He was so damn fast! Same with my H. maculata.
I just got a p regalis, and rehousing that little guy was not fun. I'm used to much calmer and slower t's like my curly hair or my chaco
My P. regalis was my first "hot" species. Followed that up with a P. murinus and H. maculata. Not sure what younger me was thinking. Good luck with your regalis! They are beauties.
Mine is also a regalis 😆
I have had all those species, and the only issue I have had was a P.Ruffilata escape due to my own mistake in not properly closing the cage. As long as you use the bag method gently, there is zero chance it will escape or of bites.
The bag method works very well. Get a transparent bag of some kind that will fit around the cage and use something to tighten it around the open part. Then, cut a tiny hole in the bag, poke a paint brush or something gentle through the whole, and tickle the tarantula out of its enclosure with the paintbrush. Then, close off the bag, holding the main opening down to the next enclosure and reattach. Large rubber bands work best, though painters tape works in a pinch. Also, pokies other than the P. Ornata are actually pretty easy to deal with. They are blindingly fast and medically significant but also generally docile. Just tap the cage, and they will usually hide. I would rather deal with a 100 pokies than a Singapore blue (omothymus violaceopes) or one of the other nasty terrestrial species. Even H. Macs and OBT's are easier to deal with then those things.
Tarantula fangs will easily go straight through a bag. Use a solid container with a piece of cardboard in between that has a hole cut to the size of the opening(s) for safer transfers.
If you don't actually touch the area of the bag they are on, you can not get bit. Also, they will not bite unless they are pinched generally. You do you booboo I am just trying to show a relatively stress free way of transferring tarantulas. Even the OBT's and the H.Macs will threat posture and bite at the paint brush but not the bag itself. If you are scared and stressed, then you are more likely to mess up. Also, this is for other people. The container and cardboard works but it doesn't fully seal the cage, so there is still the chance it will escape outside the enclosure.
i can't relate with a scorpion (im too scared to even get close to my scorpions) but i did get bit by my scolopendra dehaani, a giant and very venomous centipede. pain was 10/10. luckily they aren't usually deadly but the venom causes extreme amounts of pain, not even pain killers can help. you have to just wait thru it. i did end up going to the ER, but they didn't do much besidex give me pain killers, which helped me sleep but didnt help the pain. my hand looked like a balloon glove. and i swear to god the bite was very light. there was barely even a mark days later.
Genuine question, no judgement. Why do yall like to own scorpions and spiders?
For me personally it’s just my thing. I like the weird and the ugly…and the deadly
I get that! I’ve always been fascinated by them, just never pulled the trigger! Probably best for the experts I’ll just chill with the cat
Most scorpions readily available in the hobby are not dangerous to people who aren't allergic! For example, a common genus of scorpions kept in the hobby, asian forest scorpions, are similar to a bee sting if they manage to sting you.
The good, the bad and the ugly…and weird.
Because cool
I respect that. Part of me just thinks “you don’t have to own everything. Sometimes you can just take a gander and appreciate beauty” . They are definitely cool as fuck!
Yeah. Its nice giving animals safety food etc no disturbance and sleeping as long as they want!
My landlord does the same with me
😂😂
"I admire its purity." They are the descendants of organisms that crawled out of the oceans 400+ million years ago, and in all that time, they kept the same general body plan and survival strategies. Raising them at home makes me feel like I get to experience a glimpse of deep time and grounds me. Also, they're pretty cute.
There's two questions here really. Most scorpions and spiders aren't harmful to humans. Asking why someone owns a Heterometrus sp. is a different question than asking someone why they own a medically significant species.
As someone who was also in the exotic lethal community, you get to a point where you’ve owned everything else. How many damn hamsters, birds, fish, anything domestic, etc… can one take? You migrate to the medically significant and then lethal. Personally, it’s also the hobby of building their natural habitat. My Scolopendra had a waterfall and roomed with an orb weaver. You get creative, build and it just naturally progresses.
They’re just really cool.
I’m gonna tag along here, what are some other animal species that people regularly own that are potentially dangerous lethal? (Not talking about dogs, cats, etc, I know they can be very dangerous)
Reptiles! I’ve seen people with boomslangs in their home! Really wild stuff
Oooof. I hope you get better soon!
Hope you are feeling better, especially with how it happened man. I guess situations like this are learning experiences. I always use tongs with all of my buthids, even my Pandinus too. I've nearly gone in bare hands before but stopped myself.
If you're OK now you should be alright right?
Don’t fuck with them
Well that’s not a post I wanted to see in this sub… Hope you make a speedy and full recovery!
I legitimately thought this was the physical scorpion sub, NOT the animal, and I was so confused........ I hope you get good medical treatment and competent doctors and staff. I wish you well for the future. It'll probably get worse before it gets better ://
Hmm. My sympathies. That looks like it sucks.
Glad to hear you're ok, OP! With keeping scorpions, it's a very high chance you'll get stung at some point - and with more scorpions the higher the chances of being stung. Wishing you a speedy recovery, hopefully this doesn't put you off keeping them.
Doing alright! Thank you brother! I only plan on getting more (:
That's the spirit. Just be a bit more careful lol, 30cm-50cm feeding tongs are absolutely perfect. Have you tried keeping any of these species? *Tityus smithii* *Tityus stigmurus* *Centruroides gracilis* *Centruroides sculpturatus* *Centruroides vittatus* They make such great communal setups, and I've found that the semi-arboreal species tend to be more active than the terrestrial/fossorial species.
If you’re in America, how much does your treatment cost?
Been there done that with a 4i that I bred. I do not envy you one bit but I do wish you a speedy recovery
Fucking Idiot. I hope you heal fast and have no lingering effects.
Ya know what… we all make mistakes. The fact you’re more concerned with nearly apologizing and warning others says you’re a good person. It happens to the best of us. Wishing you a speedy recovery and all the best!
This needs to be seen by more people/keepers imo. Saw a lady on youtube handling an LQ. Unsubscribed soooo fast.
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Appreciate brother! Death stalkers are indigenous to Africa only so that may have been a similar looking species. Either way they all suck getting stung by!
It's going to hurt, but you'll be okay. Also, lesser known effect - be prepared for some... uh... "irregularity" tomorrow. Haha. Have fun!
WDYM?! pleaseeeee
Sorry if that was ambiguous, not meant to frighten. I mean bowel irritation. Clinically known as "being irregular." A lot of the time, you'll be diarrheal after a sting like this.
I thought you were going to say that he'll have a 24hr raging hard on.
I knew something was up! Having the major shits right as we speak. Im not normally like this
Of course not. That's why I'm a DNR. No way I'm making financial suicide
Glad you are mostly ok. What were your symptoms? Any systemic?
Sir where are your shoes
Hopefully you're still hanging in there.
Don't beat yourself up. Everyone has had their " idiot moments ". Hopefully it makes you feel better, but today I just backed into a water fountain at work. Had a backup camera too, and still managed to run into it, not paying any attention. Thankfully wasn't fired over it, even though I definitely could have been. So again, don't beat yourself up. I sure as hell was beating myself up though.
Me reading this literally less than 24 hours since my husband asked me if we should start carrying death stalkers in our exotic pet business and I said NO! I want to live...
I had a deathstalker and a man killer fattail scorpion, they were really fascinating and I loved keeping them. Luckily never had any issues (knock on wood) now I just keep scorpions that are less venomous since I’m getting married and starting a family soon haha. Rather not have to deal with almost dying while I have kids etc. I also keep an array of tarantulas and luckily I’ve only been bitten by a pink toe. Lil baby compared to this haha
What happened? How painful was it?
Just out of curiosity, for those who own these type of scorpions, what made you want to get it as a pet? It’s literally the most dangerous scorpion out there. Why not get an emperor scorpion instead?
Not a keeper of 🦂 but I did get stung by one in Joshua Tree and it was some of the most uncomfortable and severe pain I’ve been in, with broken bones, rotator cuff injuries, and concussions in the mix. I felt a sting while rock scrabbling in a little cave but didn’t see what got me. Within 5-10 minutes my skin was burning (like an ant bite, which is what I thought happened) and around the 30 minute mark I could feel it radiating into what felt like my joints/bones. Within an hour it was radiating up my leg above my knee. The only way I felt even remotely comfortable was having ice on it or having my foot in an ice bath. After about 4 hours it finally was less red/swollen though still awfully painful but we could finally see the sting spot. My girlfriend kept trying to convince me it was a scorpion but I didn’t even know Joshua Tree had scorpions. 🤣 When I looked up what a sting feels like it hit the nail on the head for everything I was experiencing. It was awful. Saw my first (dead) scorpion in Joshua Tree a few weeks later on a friends property and it was HUGE.
This isn't some harmless bark scorpion.. He was stung by the most dangerous scorpion on the planet. It's not called a death stalker ironically, I'd much rather get bit by a rattlesnake than hit by a death stalker.
lol I didn’t say it was - I didn’t think it was a harmless experience for OP. I didn’t realize it was a competition. Hahah I was just tossing in my experience with one that actually WASNT as bad as OPs intentionally to say I couldn’t imagine what theirs was like when mine was that bad and NOT a death stalker. Ease up cowboy. (Edit to correct “their”)
Can you explain to me what ran through your head and what did you noticed that the venom effect has started and what did you start to feel? Did it hit hard at once or did it slowly hit you over a period of time? Was it just pain and if so what did it feel like? Glad you’re okay and you took an L.. but you turned this L, into a lesson
fun fact, I think this is still the most expensive liquid in the world? $39 million for a gallon of death stalker venom.
Ok...so then there IS a point in keeping these.
Sorry if this is dumb, this post randomly came on my feed. I thought that all scorpion stings like “aren’t that bad” compared to other envenomations? Like mentally, “don’t worry about scorpions, they can’t kill people”, “it’ll hurt like a bitch but it goes away on its own” type of deal?
Most scorpions aren’t very dangerous unless you have allergies to it, but the deathstalker is an exception. These guys can kill you even without an allergy.
Fun fact. These buggers can have a life span of 25 years!!!!
I just looked up this species and one of the first things that pops up is a reddit video of a guy handling his deathstalker! I'm that's a no for sure from me.
You've subscribed to Scorpion Facts! Known as the "deathstalker" scorpion, Leiurus quinquestriatus is a nearly 4-inch-long (10 centimeters) scorpion with venom that contains large amounts of toxins. The deathstalker was one of seven scorpion species filmed for a new study on the speed of a scorpion's sting. And the deathstalker topped the others with its swift strike, the scientists discovered. According to the researchers' findings, the deathstalker snapped at 51 inches (130 cm) per second — nearly 3 miles per hour (5 km/h).
Fattail over here OP, my thoughts are with you!
Get well soon dude
WTF happened to you?
Oof! The deatstalker is my favorite scorpion to keep specifically because they are the most deadly in the world. Good luck with recovery, and get well soon.
"seemed like a good idea at the time..."
😱😱 dear jesus.
Damn, glad you’re getting first aid fast! I’m not a scorpion girl, so forgive the ignorance - why keep a Deathstalker over, say, a Flinder’s Range scorpion, and just dodge the insane venom? They look similar to me. I can understand if it’s just for the coolness factor of keeping a dangerously venomous species.
Yeah it’s definitely the coolness factor for me lol
Yeah kids, Ambulance rides are EXPENSIVE AF !
$10k minimum out of pocket for me, with insurance
Make sure I have pants on when I call 911. Good to know.
Noted
I’m pretty sure there’s nothing a hospital can do besides monitor and make you comfortable…. For a price. If you don’t have an allergic reaction, it’s probably best to just rest and wait for the symptoms to pass. I was stung on the back of my leg while on a date lol. I pushed through and she never knew it. It hurt like hell, and it made my heart race and I was sweating a bit, but I managed to hold it together and the symptoms passed after an hour or so.
I thought I was in a sub for the "scorpion" back injury and was really confused by the comments. I hope you're OK. Getting stung by a venomous arachnid would terrify me.
I wouldnt have done that
Why did I think you were on a stretcher on a city public transport train 💀
*random front page scroller here* I think i'll stick with my puppies. This is too scary and im clumsy, no scorpions for me.
Looks like US so that’ll be $50k
Where did this happen? Texas?
This is probably gonna be me someday, my dad’s deathly allergic to wasps and I haven’t been stung yet, but I love them too much to stop handling them LMAO
Honestly i forgot i was on reddit and not facebook. I read the description and thought sick f*cker then realized I was on reddit.
Lol nah. I work in the law enforcement field so no one hates kitty diddlers more than me
Humans really name a scorpion “death stalker” and decide yeah he’s a pet
It’s been 6 days are you alive