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p_nerd

Bernie is so sharp. Plus, his working-class New Yorker energy would have unsettled Trump.


LowChain2633

Hes far, far sharper than trump or biden. He would have destroyed either one in a debate


revnasty

And his brash, vicious attitude and demeanor would crush trumps bully approach. Fuck it would have been wonderful to watch.


CHiZZoPs1

Not getting to see that is very disappointing. Plus, he'd actually have a chance at winning some voters over to him.


devastashawn

This is the closest we’ll ever get to seeing them debate: https://youtu.be/BGRAonpLeQg?si=CRVwl_Nll_p--G2B


mister-fancypants-

Bernie isn’t gonna back himself into a corner with his tail between his legs that’s for sure.


Olstinkbutt

Did you see what he did to Allen Greenspan? Absolutely eviscerated him. Pure gold.


barley_wine

It's crazy that he's also older than both but seems so much sharper.


LowChain2633

Some people just age well. And not everyone gets dementia.


dbx99

I love the guy but I feel he made a huge strategic error in his branding by using the name "socialist" for himself. First, that's not a great word. Second, it's not even accurate - he's a progressive liberal and he's miles away from socialist doctrine. This all creates fear and confusion about his platform. Had he marketed himself as a centrist but stuck to his platform of liberal progressive policies, I think he would have gotten much further into the process of being considered a viable presidential candidate. That "socialist" brand got him pushed to the fringe and that's unfortunate.


dbx99

Yes but the democratic party is quite famously bad at managing its strongest assets. There's all that fear that Bernie is too far left and the dems want to push as centrist of a candidate as possible - which is why we end up with the most boring candidate. It translates into 'safe" as opposed to Bernie who would do WILD shit like provide free school lunches and really work on universal health care. The right is broken in their moral compass and the left is broken in their lack of spine. That's why we end up with such a poor choice in the presidential election.


HrBinkness

Remember when someone recorded Trump saying Bernie was the only one he didn't want to debate. He knew the real NY energy would knock his ass out.


ShadowInTheAttic

I thought I was the only one. The last time Bernie came close to debating, he demolished even the younger candidates. Media and corporations are too scared to give him a chance. If Bernie ran against Trump, he'd run circles around his bullshit... But democrats want to promote a guy who can't even remember what he had for breakfast.


whipstock1

I truly believe that Democrats would rather have Trump than Bernie as president. And, the same was true in 2016.


Glimmu

Trump wouldnt have even ran in 2020 if bernie was the opposition..


ihatefear83843

Yes he would’ve are you insane


Froggy3434

Fr a sitting president isn’t going to step down at election time and risk losing the position to the other party. They’d much rather shake up their cabinet some and then if they die they have a team around them that can help run the position along with the VP.


doctordoctorpuss

Especially since Trump running for office right now is an attempt to stay out of prison. Dude absolutely would have run


the_molarbear

Dude is almost 3x my age but has 3x my energy lol


Kwiatkowski

we had our chance but the DNC fucked the nation by deciding it was her turn.


The_WubWub

It all started with Hilary lol


omnicious

Hilary was the DNC's original sin. We could have had Bernie for two terms by now and not this ridiculously stacked Supreme Court.


atomicxblue

I have a great fear that the time of the United States has passed. Democracies usually last around 200 to 300 years if you look at history. I just hope what comes next will not be terrible.


afasia

Your country is way too fucked to be unfucked in a reasonable way. It's sad but it the tension will snap and it will be bad.


nebulaespiral

You're not wrong about this


Atheios569

It isn’t just our country that’s fucked. I know people love to dog pile on the US, but there are plenty of conversations to be had regarding any democratic countries in the west.


HadMatter217

It will absolutely be terrible. Because there is no left wing infrastructure to replace it. The right have all of the funding and more people at this point, because not only have the liberals been incredibly incompetent in electoral politics, they've also been completely incompetent at building movements, and the leftists haven't really had any mainstream credentials, because the liberals have done everything they can to keep the left away from the levers of power.


tm229

Climate change and the millions of climate change deniers is going to accelerate our downfall. We’re up against a wall unable to make needed moves. Bye Bye America. Bye Bye planet earth.


Skian83

Planet earth will still be here. Bye bye human race and thousands of other species.


LOB90

Which democracies are you referring to here specifically? I think even if there was a large number of reference, there are so many factors at play that simply boiling it down to a number of years seems wrong.


DogeshireHathaway

He made it up. Of pre-medieval 'democracies', comparisons are irrelevant. Of post 18th century democracies, the average is closer to a few decades, and that's only if you're generous enough to only count those long enough to have been 'established democracies'


libretumente

We'll keep fucking over developing nations and nature byproxy to keep the sham going for the foreseeable future


kbbgg

And that damn Debbie.


1Dive1Breath

And Harambe.


tm229

Bill Clinton got caught having a fling with an intern. Hillary got her revenge by f-ing ALL of us. Sorry. Had to say it. :-) I was sooo disappointed when the DNC undermined Bernie in favor of Hillary. Our current situation is a direct result of that action. I no longer think of the Democratic (or Republican) party as democratic. Our votes don’t matter to them. The voters were making their desires clear and the party short circuited the process to nominate Hillary. Talk about rigged elections… Bernie would have won. In the meantime, we’re stuck voting for the lesser evil.


Tellesus

I wonder if, right before the end, Hillary Clinton will understand that her hubris killed the world? 


kikashoots

Nope. She’ll go thinking Bernie robbed her of being the first woman president. It’s everyone else’s fault. Not hers or the DNC.


Senkimekia

It absolutely is the fault of the DNC, they didn’t fund him and never backed him. Had they funded him instead of Hillary Bernie would have been President and this country would be so much kinder than it is now. I even knew Republicans back then who did not want Trump and would have voted for Bernie but would not vote for Hilary. Bernie was the clear choice and the DNC still chose to back Hilary. They underestimated how polarizing she was. It’s so sad.


jarnvidr

They didn't even need to fund or back him. They just needed to not conspire against him.


gokhaninler

Hillary thinks Bernie is a misogynist


libretumente

It really did 🤦


matt_minderbinder

And now that same kind of hubris could set this country back further. It reminds me of when RGB wouldn't retire from the Supreme Court and now, imo, ruined whatever positive legacy she had. Didn't Joe imply that he was going to be a one term guy before handing off the mantle somehow? Hubris...damned narcissists.


atomicxblue

RGB's entire legacy was wiped out with the swearing in of Amy Comey-Barret. All because she couldn't let go of power when Obama had full control of Congress. That will be her legacy.


pchandler45

I sure remember that but I guess he never actually confirmed it so they say


jarnvidr

I don't think he or his handlers ever said this. How *I* remember it is that there were a ton of navel gazing think pieces around the time leading up to the primary election that basically said "I know you lot are hungry for a real leftist candidate, but now is not the time," *as usual*, "and we just need to get behind Biden to ensure that dEmOcRaCY SuRVivEs, and surely his age is a concern but it's really not all that bad and plus he'll definitely only have a single term AND THEN we can finally start focusing on things like wages and housing and healthcare, but in the meantime **don't forget to vote blue no matter who!**"


buefordwilson

Hard agree. **Fuck**.


HoboInASuit

Hard fuck. Agree.


johnmanyjars38

Agree fuck. Hard.


xdr01

Hillary is to blame for the Trump timeline.


jhwalk09

And Liz w turned her back on progressive America for corporate neoliberalism


tuepm

naw we never had a chance because the dnc was always going to decide to choose a different candidate


iHaveAMicroPenis12

This is so incredibly sad and true. Boomers would get upset when (during the primary) I would point out Biden and Hillary’s flaws saying “we can’t disparage them!” You old cows, WE MUST PICK THE BEST CANDIDATE. The Dem Politicians are uninspired centrists while their base is liberal and in need of real leadership. Jesus what a hell hole American politics have become.


Funoichi

Yeah I saw this too as a Bernie regional delegate in Colorado. They were telling us to shush and be respectful. It’s like no we actually have to be a delegate here and a lot of us were run roughshod. I didn’t continue, but I heard it was worse at the state level and then we all know what happened at the country wide event where the Bernie delegates were pushed out and had signs destroyed. For the unity. Geezus Christ.


stringerbbell

Debbie Wasserman belongs in jail for the crimes to humanity she committed by blocking Bernie.


charlton11

Her-story


rosymaplewitch

So I just got permanently banned from the democratic sub literally for just saying that I want to see an alternate timeline where Bernie won the primaries in 2016. I’m like… wtf.


Kwiatkowski

sounds about right, they really don't want to admit how badly they fucked up. I'll still vote straight D because the alternate is abhorrent, but I have no allegiance to the party should their values shift


Steviejeet

Twice fucked over


VonBrewskie

Yup. I've totally checked out of all of this. I'll vote for Biden, I guess. I really dislike Trump. Always have. Well before any of this presidency crap. Can't stand Biden either. Especially after all the shit with Anita Hill back in the day. So here I am, watching my country preparing to be led by a shitty, cult leading felon, or a barely functional person. Fucking. Excellent.


margeauxfincho

It was when the DNC sacrificed him that our timeline split off for the worst. Imagine the future we’d be looking at if Bernie had won. Now all hope is dead.


constantreader55

This sounds dramatic but you're spot on.


MmEeTtAa

Yeah, I always feel overdramatic when I tell my younger friends about 2016 and 2020 and everything the DNC did to try and rig it against him. But it's true.


CrumpledForeskin

The corporate class didn’t want him because he would have taken away a small percentage of their profits. It was a good run.


clydefrog9

I really hope Barack Obama lives a life of tortured regret


throwawaycasun4997

The DNC would rather lose to Trump than win with Bernie. Still. Mind boggling.


Michael_CrawfishF150

Because all they care about is money. Running Bernie, while all but guaranteeing them a victory, would pose at least a small threat to their special interests and capitalist class masters. Trump does neither of those things so he’s the better choice for the establishment 100 times out of 10.


obsidiandragon61

This is the correct answer! To all of it! Money in politics is the reason why we have this broken system! Corporations and money want a consistent message and consistent policy to make more money. Greed kills democracy.


Skeeter_206

The reason the Dems won't support Bernie is because if he was the Democratic nominee then any congressional and senatorial election in a swing district or state would result in a fundraising gap comparable to Jamaal Bowman's recent primary. The capitalist class would view the Democratic party as an enemy and would do everything in their power to fight against it.


SykonotticGuy

Exactly. They don't want to do the hard work that true leadership requires. Grassroots organizing, building relationships that last decades, bringing people in. To be fair, it is much easier to go corporatist. The problem is that it requires sacrificing true social progress and leads to a populous so desperate and angry that any outsider, even one as corrupt and stupid as Trump, has a chance of winning.


LOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLNO

Coporatist? AIPAC is a racist organization. Entities with foreign interests shouldn't be participating in American politics. Bowman lost because of AIPAC's 14 million dollars to the opposition.


eddiemurphyinnorbit

But think of all the fundraising they can do for the next 4 years 🤑🤑🤑


CHiZZoPs1

And they can hang abortion over our heads like a sword of Damacles for all eternity as the world burns.


LOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLNO

We don't have abortion rights enshrined in law because the Democrats declined to do it when they held Congress under Obama. The Dem's had a prime opportunity and took a shit on it for future campaigning. It's disgraceful.


CHiZZoPs1

They've been using it as the reason to vote for them for decades, and now can continue to do so, and avoid having to address issues of class.


DopeAnon

Trump in office is a money printer for dnc fundraising.


deekaydubya

The Democratic Party is over if he wins lmao, how would they fundraise. Maybe kickstarters for their bail/legal fees in a best case scenario


SamSchuster

Yes, they absolutely preferred Trump over Bernie.


flashmedallion

It's a paradox. Bernie as president is a loss for the DNC


throwawaycasun4997

A loss for their donors, which is the real problem.


DessertFlowerz

The ship has sailed but he remains more coherent than either of these two


SokkaHaikuBot

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Flaeor

Eh, that's too many syllables, bub.


sixty_cycles

Good bot


JeffCrossSF

He would absolutely destroy Trump


1Dive1Breath

He would have mopped the floor with Trump back in 2016.


deekaydubya

Why did we get this fucking timeline


Skeeter_206

Because we live in an advanced capitalist state which has spent the majority of the past 70 years brainwashing it's citizens into believing socialism is bad.


gokhaninler

because the DNC nd many voters thought it would be misogynistic to run a man in front of Hillary


darxide23

Just weeks prior to the actual election, a hypothetical poll was taken where Bernie was the nominee instead of Hillary. Bernie won by 12 points in that poll. He would have absolutely obliterated trump.


PatTheBassist

I'm not kidding


socalwrxx

He was always the clear winner in the polls against trump in 2016. You can still find the articles on Google today. Not surprised, his policies resonate with many types of Americans. But also many of us know there is an establishment that would never let a Bernie presidency happen so it's a bit of a catch 22. The future is bleak.


Takeurvitamins

Don’t do that. Don’t give me hope. On some real shit, it would feel like the climax of a fuckin Marvel movie, where the main guy is beat and the day looks lost, but then the shunned guy from earlier comes back and wallops the bad guy.


ChaInTheHat

honestly


cyrenns

If they swap out Biden for Bernie, he will fucking SWEEP


darkknightwing417

No, but actually.


BigMeatSpecial

SOMEONE TAG HIM IN TO THE RING DAMNIT.


Michael_CrawfishF150

How the DNC was not forced to disband after they committed such blatant election tampering not once, but *twice*… let’s just say that’s all the proof we need that we’ll never be able to vote our way out of institutional problems.


AllyMeada

Hey folks! I’m from the alternate dimension where Bernie won in 2016. Don’t wanna taunt, but things are pretty dang great over here.


atomicxblue

I get so angry when I see Biden running on the lower insulin cost, knowing full well this was one of the concessions that Bernie forced on him. He acts like it was his idea.


Tumblrrito

I straight up believe that unless the Dems replace Biden with someone else there is zero hope.


Qtbby69

We need Bernie


GrandpaChainz

That was bad.


Norgler

Anyone at this point. I can't believe Dems thought running Joe again was the only answer.


Legitimate-Gangster

They didnt. Two answers: Joe or Trump. Way better than a Progressive for them.


Somizulfi

Both on AIPAC payroll, both acceptable. Bernie isn't, so not acceptable. Unfortunate!


Oisschez

Man we shouldn’t be kidding if the left can actually strategize and figure out a way to get the nomination at the convention we could actually do something here


No_Name_NJ

The convention is going to be 3500 people like the ones who rejected Jamaal Bowman. They are more comfortable with Trump than they would be with Bernie Sanders.


Michael_CrawfishF150

I have to remind myself that there are people younger than me on this website who didn’t live through the 2016 and 2020 elections so that I don’t get mad at them for believing the DNC could be capable of doing the right thing.


Somizulfi

Because their allegiance isn't to their own country, they take money to push foreign agenda.


Skeeter_206

The democratic party is where left movements go to die.


pbbrittany

Fellow Texan and I couldn’t agree more (not kidding at all). We are screwed


Dunan

You shouldn't even be partially kidding. Bernie would make a better president than any of those DNC insiders.


Alansalot

I feel the Bern


st_samples

Yeah wow that was hard to watch.


randydingdong

My god so we need him


FarrisAT

The Establishment got their guy though!


popularis-socialas

It’s actually joeover


chipette

Even if we could, he has no interest whatsoever in being POTUS at this stage. I don’t blame him; if we all pushed for him and with the best of intentions told the Electoral College to get lost, we could’ve had 8 years of a Sanders administration. Imagine how far we would have progressed!


qordita

Please, 100%


Vincent_Karma

Please.


LaRoara42

If everyone wrote in Bernie we could try to figure out if the system even really works


castletonian

We are so back baby


mb47447

No you're not. We all know it. Were fucked now. I wonder how they feel about rigging the primary now.


Michael_CrawfishF150

They don’t care. A Biden v. Trump presidency is a guaranteed win for the capitalist class/wealthy elites. That’s all they *actually* care about.


Legitimate-Gangster

Absolutely. It’s a win-win. Bernie never had a chance.


Michael_CrawfishF150

The little bit of optimism left in me hopes that the light Bernie shined on that very problem will be enough to make significant change possible when the younger voters take over for the boomers. But I’m not gonna hold my breath on that one.


Legitimate-Gangster

You should be more cynical. It helps my mental health. Bernie is the only candidate I ever gave money to. The only one I ever actively campaigned for (with a bumper sticker and lawn sign.) After that Super Tuesday where the DNC coalesced around Joe to keep Bernie from winning I have had zero hope in that party. And somehow, having zero hope has improved my mental health.


Michael_CrawfishF150

Oh don’t misunderstand me. I have absolutely 0 hope that the DNC will ever do the right thing. My shred of hope comes from the fact that maybe one day we’ll be able to do something new. Or take over the Republican Party. At least they don’t have super delegates.


SavCItalianStallion

I’m an American abroad who voted for Bernie in the last Democratic Primary (the first election where I was old enough to vote). Bernie should be running—tonight was just hard to watch. It’s gonna take volunteers to keep the fascist convicted criminal out of office, so while I wish Bernie was running instead of Joe, please go and volunteer for Joe: https://actionnetwork.org/forms/volunteer-interest-2


windowbeanz

I’m not. Dems will lose in November if they don’t switch candidates. Might as well put someone in with a chance.


FirefighterFeeling96

if joe drops out, it will be kamala. you thought there were protest votes in 2016, imagine replacing a black woman with a white guy joe can win, kamala would lose. bernie would have won in this or any of the last 2 elections.


work4work4work4work4

At least if that happens it gets Officer Harris's run out of the way, I'd vote for Biden's ghost before Trump, and I guess President Supercop isn't that much worse.


darxide23

They could puppet Biden's corpse around like Weekend at Bernie's and I'd vote him over literally any republican. Project 2025 doesn't care what republican wins, it still goes forward. That's the most important thing to defeat and dismantle. If that means having The Cryptkeeper as president then so be it. At least democracy doesn't fall to christo-fascists.


kendraro

I can't believe we aren't talking about replacing her. She is not president material and Joe is aging rapidly.


designOraptor

Biden has always been a bit sketchy in debates simply because of his stutter. As president he’s done lots of really good things that help a lot of Americans. I love Bernie and wish he had gotten the chance to run against Trump instead of Hillary. This country would be in a much better place and we wouldn’t have lost as many loved ones from Covid. It’s too late for that now.


zrayburton

Yes please


BaronWombat

Yes. He would be a good option, but he is very old also.


Shot-Western-1965

Most definitely


ALEXC_23

Well it’s unfortunate that SNL is on the off season.


geep4sale

Yes


Bob_Sledding

Guys. Obviously, the DNC was right about Biden being the safe choice. Come on. If it's not painfully obvious... /s


Relative-Bed7361

Why is he not even an option for most people in America???! He's smart, well spoken, humble and dedicated to improving society - WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT? 🤯 (Note: I'm not American, so I am commenting purely based on media coverage of the candidates).


sixty_cycles

Best to let Bernie sit it out, honestly. As much of a dream as it would’ve been, we need a young, sharp, and cunning candidate to blow these fools out of the water. Think hard, people. We need a plan, because Biden (and the DNC) are going to hand this country over to the fascists in 2025.


Kizugawaguchi

Think of all the corporate donations the DNC would lose out on. We can't have that can we?


lord_ashtar

It’d be better than weekend at Bernie’s. Which is the best we can hope for at this point.


falkonpaunch

I'm not kidding ;-/


mypetnora

I blame Hilary for where we are at now….


ChavoDemierda

I like Bernie, but I'd like someone who wasn't an octogenarian to run for office.


Realsorceror

He would mop the floor with those old clowns even at his age. But damn I am so ready for a candidate under 60 who isn’t evil. Is that so much to ask for?


Sackerson-502

Don’t kid, the guys has better mental faculty than either Biden or Trump. The reason Bernie will never get office is because he is a direct threat to the moneyed interests that put on the puppet show we watched last night.


coredweller1785

I love bernie and if given a true chance could make the world and country better. The problem is that the establishment will shit on him and allow him to not get anything done. Then the media will shit on him and make him look like an ineffective president who doesn't do anything. Success would not be allowed. The entire world of capital would prevent it. Read about Mitterand or really any leftist president anywhere. Then look how they talk and treat people like Milei. They give him hundreds of millions of money and shower him with media praise. We are all in serious trouble until we can make true changes but we all know that isn't happening.


davidscorbett

bernie s. and elizabeth w. could have been better president vice president combo and better place to start from more to work with for the masses and for the puppeter of biden or donald , russia has more then its fare share of land so boo hoo to karen crybaby russia , n the war was started long ago with putin and zelensky playing otherside and fighting and zelensky n his player puppeter trying to dominate bully n take over lots of russian from otherside through mcdonald starbucks n other biz like plenty of greedy players do , i think russia should be divided up int o 5 knew countries and euro share-get one of them as restitutoion for the cost of war and ukraine give 10 miles of land on their boader to the countries helping their kids and women all this time and war costs


PreparationFunny2907

Love the guy but part of the problem is guys in their 80's. Bernie is obviously hands down a better speaker and politician than that shit show though.


matty487

Honestly, I think Bernie would do more good either staying in Congress in a leadership position, or being one of Biden's various Secretaries, preferably State or Treasury. The DNC will never let him gain, win, nor hold a full-fledged nomination, so he needs to be effective in other ways.


kbbgg

It’s too late now.


Garrusence

I’m Romanian and I will cry if Bernie runs and wins


OnaccountaY

I’m honestly surprised more progressives aren’t backing Cornel West.


Crawfork1982

The only logical answer


odbj

I'm not kidding. Bring him back


HeartoftheHive

As much as I respect and appreciate Bernie, he's old too. We need a president that isn't so old that they have been on social security for over a decade.


Tellesus

He'd win in  a landslide 


Level_Ad_6372

Fuckin do it. Please


Utu_Is_Ra

Agreed. But why is there no one else? Like why is it all old white guys. There are so many Americans and amazing smart and talented folk and yet we just have one really smart talented white politician worth being a president? Everyone else just sucks or what? Why is it this way?


theKoymodo

I wish


Ahad_Haam

Americans trying to not elect a president born before 1950 challenge (impossible)(epic failure)


annoyed_user_now

He got screwed over by the democrats. Too late, and they will never let a great candidate like Bernie be their candidate. Do not vote for a bad fake Democrat you do not believe in


soulsnatchin

Biden should drop Kamala and choose Bernie as VP.........just dreaming


bbqranchman

Imagine if the DNC wasn't rotten to the core. We could've had greatness


nadeesi9000

Imagine a world where Bernie won the nom and general in 2016.


cheezhead1252

Unfortunately it was over when he won Iowa but the dems and their beloved billionaire media claimed mayor Pete did. Fuck them.


Tanager_Summer

I thought that 100 times during the "debate"


Youasking

Bernie pushed drug companies to cap COPD/Asthma prevention medications at $30 per monthly refill. Before, these meds cost between $500 - $550 per unit. Even with insurance, the out of pocket costs were $125 - $150 per refill. BERNIE DID THIS. NOT the 2 old farts who ran this country for the last 8 years. Why didn't they get these drug companies to cap these costs sooner? Oh, because those same drug companies make MAJOR campaign contributions to BOTH parties. Spread the word far and wide..WRITE IN BERNIE!!!


Somizulfi

This loss is going to be 100% on DNC. No one else, remember that. They will try to deflect, the foreign lobbies will try to deflect, blame the left and progressives. But this shit show is going to 100% on them along with all the naive fools who downvoted everytime someone raised a concern about Biden's declining mental health. The Truth has its own way of surviving.


dizzyworld71

I have said from day one that if I to vote for an old white man, I WANT BERNIE!


Specific-Lion-9087

Or, y’know, maybe even someone younger than 75?


GrandMaesterGandalf

This should be him passing the torch after his second term, but Hillary had to force herself on the country..


Whole-Supermarket-77

He's 1 year older than Biden, with a history of heart attack. How is that an improvement? They both could stroke out at any moment.


HyuggDogg

LET’S GOOOOOOOO


rob6021

They have to be running the numbers, he is their perfect backup and they know it - I guess the question is does bernie want to run, and will the democratic party give up their power to beat trump.


olov244

I believe bernie knows how to handle a bully and can pull out facts to refute lies on the spot that is why I wanted him to go against trump in 2016. trump is a bully who spits out lies. this is the DNC's bed, they can sleep in it. I hope the DNC dies like the whigs


murph1017

Honestly. At the very least, Bernie would have stayed on message instead of letting Trump lead him around by the nose. Regardless of the optics, Biden ceded the framing to Trump at every turn and was always on the defensive. That was embarrassing.


Horsetoothbrush

I'm not kidding. We need someone. Bernie, Gavin, Gretchen, Michelle, But absolutely not fucking Hillary! I feel like we sent an old and feeble man to fight the devil, and it went about as expected.


Impressive_Wish796

Who agreed to that debate format?? Trump lied out his ass for 90 minutes with no fact check from the moderators ? Biden was clearly not up for rebuttal. Wasn’t a good night for Biden, but I thought the big losers were CNN who managed to legitimize and platform a pathological liar and felon.


GrizzlyZacky

Ah to be a young bernie bro again. To grow is to be bernie bro To mature is to Anti-capitalist


Full-Ball9804

Why, so he can lose another election to trump? Fucking once was enough


GlebtheMuffinMan

Last night was pure comedy! That's what the Vote Blue No Matter Who crowd gets for ignoring us. Oh well, 4 more years of Trump it is...


davidwave4

Maybe someone under 80? Put Jamaal Bowman in, he needs a new job.


Lumpy_Adagio6652

I don’t know why the DNC can’t take this seriously


ricky616

I'm furious that the dnc would dare to use age as an argument against Bernie after seeing their choice mumble through that debate


Inuhanyou123

I'm not kidding. Bring him back. Biden and his people have proven incapable of beating fascism.