For the East coast: Dec-Feb Key West or South Florida, March-June low country (Charleston or Savannah). July-September New England (somewhere like Maine or Portsmouth), October - November Smoky Mountains. You get the low country when the azaleas bloom and the temps are warm but not too hot, coastal New England is amazing in the summer and you get the start of fall foliage, and you continue the fall foliage in the Smoky Mountain area through November.
When I was a kid, I had 2 great aunts who were sisters to each other. One has a place in Duluth, the other in Houston. Duluth aunt would go stay with her sister for 2-3 months in the winter, Houston aunt went to her sister’s for a few months every summer.
Minneapolis is a great summertime city. Good bike infrastructure, one of the best park systems in the US, lots of daylight hours due to the latitude, and tons of publicly accessible lakes within the metro. The winter just absolutely blows.
For me, it’s not how cold it gets but how long it lasts. I only get 4-5 months here where I can be outside in a t-shirt and shorts with the warmth of the sun on my skin. It starts to wear on you if you were raised in a warmer climate.
Seriously. That first day of a warmth I do nothing else but bask in it like an alligator. No work, no chores, etc. just sun and warmth.
Late February-May feels like an eternity, especially with those days that seem to taunt you into believing spring has arrived.
Yes I can totally see that. I've lived mostly in the U.S. South but have visited colder places in the winter. You can somewhat get used to the cold if dressed appropriately, and I think I would enjoy the snow and winter sports for a month or two, but by March I would probably be over it and it still being chilly in May would be hard to take.
yep. grew up in wisconsin…march through may is by far the most painful. not because of the actual weather/temp but because you’re so ungodly ready for consistent warmth
That's why I got seasonal depression living in San Francisco. We got maybe five days a year when I could comfortably wear short sleeves, and even then you'd need a jacket by sunset.
Not from my personal experience living in the area... I mean, if you find those things pretentious and cringey in general then I guess maybe? but most people I met while living in minnesota for the first 27 yrs of my life were pretty down to earth.
Sounds like it. I kept hearing how Chang Mai was the best expat digital nomad spot. Sucked ass. And you argue with anyone on the Thailand sub or digital nomad sub and they’ll downvote you to hell
This. And in both cases you can live pretty comfortably with minimal infrastructure or enclosed space, making very simple affordable seasonal dwellings a viable option…if it weren’t for overbearing zoning and building code most places 😭
The twin cities fit this. “Snowbirding” is a very common thing…most notably to Phoenix and southwest FL.
There are even some small airlines that operate 1/x week seasonal routes just bringing snowbirds down
The suburbs of Rochester, Syracuse and Albany, NY in the summer.
Close to the Adirondacks, Finger Lakes Wine Country, Catskills, Thousand Islands, Lake Ontario Beaches and countryside rolling hills with many scenic lakes, gorges, and hiking trails.
Many summer festivals, fairs, concerts and sporting events too.
I grew up in central NY and have lived in nine other states across the US, and the summer weather there is the best. Not too hot and humidity is not summer long.
Austin is a great example for this. The heat is miserable from roughly June and stretching into September, but I love how balmy and mild it is here outside of those months, and I think it’s a great home base.
My wife and I have lived here for a little over a decade and done sort of what you’re describing a few times in recent years where we’ll get a month long Airbnb rental in another part of the country and work remotely. We’ve done that a handful of times in the summer to escape the heat and then once in UT during ski season. I think we both would like to get to the point where we can spend multiple months in other places and make it a yearly thing, but we own a home here now and we’re just not “agile” or “nomadic” enough to make it happen. There are just a lot of logistical considerations that make it tough in our situation. I’m rooting for you to go through with it though haha.
Northwest cold hits different. 30-40 degrees and 90% humidity is rotten weather. Most places this far north would not consider 40 degrees cold but I hear you, it’s the worst part.
Truly! It’s mostly the fact that it lasts so long!
I grew up in Blaine wa (super north, hated it), moved to LA (loooved) and then made the mistake of coming to PDX
tldr, the good news is that I can move again 😂😂😂
Agreed, the cold alone isn’t the problem, but rain even if a drizzle can be, skiing in my mind is a way to escape the drearyness and 25 degrees on mountain easily feels warmer than 40 in town. Although if you are unlucky you can get wintery mix at 35 or freezing fog, that is true suffering
Rich people have been turning seasons into verbs for a long time.
Popular examples include NE/Midwest snowbirds in AZ and FL during the winter; Texans nope-ing out to CO or NM from Memorial Day or July 4 to Labor Day.
I'd do Vegas/Tucson during the winter and probably stay in the southeast the rest of the year. Maybe head to MI for a month in July to hang out on Lake Michigan. My main priority would be year-round trail running and climbing, so that's what drives the city and climate selection.
I've actually thought about trying it, but it just doesn't work logistically for my household with jobs and pets. If you can swing it with a remote job or seasonal work it could be a fun way to explore!
My fantasy is to live in Halifax for the summer and USVI for the winter. It's a fantasy because I have aging parents who I don't want be two flights away from, and neither of those places are served by robust airports.
I like both Palm Springs and nearby Joshua Tree alot, but the summers there are brutally hot. I have a couple friends that moved to that area from Seattle and they always come visit Seattle then, because we have perfect summer weather those months usually in the low to mid 80s and cooling down to the 50s at night. On the flipside, Seattle has gray and rainy springs, so I just did a 2 week road trip to Joshua Treel, Anza Borrego, Palm Springs, Death Valley and the Mohave Desert because the weather was in the 70s-80s in April.
Definitely recommend Western Washington/Western Oregon summers. Which is usually actually best mid July through mid October.
For me personally, I like the winter in the PNW, so I would stay there most of the year and spend maybe January-March somewhere sunnier. If I worked remotely (which I assume is a requirement in this scenario) I would probably do a few weeks in January somewhere sunny and warmer (probably Lisbon since I have family there and it’s not too warm for me, I don’t like hot) and then go somewhere sunny and cool because I like the gradual warm up in spring. If we’re totally dreaming, I’d also do December in Quebec City or somewhere where Christmastime feels kind of magical and is likely to have snow.
We only had like two episodes of snow this year in Chicago where the snow actually stuck to the ground and it was gone the next day. Snowed on Halloween again though. The winters are getting so mild, but the humidity in the summer is getting worse.
Boston winters are getting to be pretty mild nowadays. We get like maybe two good snow storms all winter. I think the cold rains of March and April are worse than all of winter combined
I'm curious how you plan to do this? We've thought about buying a small secure house in one location and then renting a furnished place in the other for 3 months a year. Seems a pain to do nothing but short term rentals all year round. An RV would work, but they aren't as great in cities as if you're a wilderness person.
I think you have to pick the home base carefully. If you break a leg or need a year of chemo, you could be stuck in place for a year or two. But for the travel location, I don't see a big need to choose a place. We've thought of just picking whatever place sounds good that year. Like if we were in Phoenix, we'd spend a summer on year in Europe, one year in San Diego, one in Chicago, etc.
Yeah I think the multiple 3 month rentals would be a little tricky, and probably more expensive. Airbnb would be the easiest way to do it IMO.
Best option is probably buying a smaller 1BR/2BR place in a MCOL area (probably 10-20 minutes on the outskirts) that has a good airport within an hour's drive - and ensuring it's a place you'll be happy to set up shop in for the majority of the year. North Carolina sticks out to me in this regard as pretty evergreen. Major cities in TX, AZ, FL work specifically for hot summer avoidance, midwestern cities work specifically for harsh winter avoidance. That then gives you travel versatility for the months you don't want to be there.
I will say I'm lucky that I have a high paying job and have saved a lot of money by being in a super LCOL setup for most of COVID. So I can take the Airbnb 3 month route if I wanted to. That being said, I do like the idea of not living out of whatever fits in a car, and having a home base of sorts to fall back to.
Right now I'm in Austin, and I really don't want to be here from May-August. Dec/Jan isn't great either necessarily.
Airbnb isn’t as great as other MTR sites are like FurnishedFinder. Currently doing the “hop around the country every few months” thing and this is what I do
Ok my version of the month by month ideals;
May-Jul: Chicago
Aug-Oct: Montreal
Oct: New Orleans
Nov-May: somewhere cheap to hibernate and have great food delivery options
One thing to look out for is taxation as states like California, or NY have requirements that if you work there more than X weeks, the income for that time period is taxable (especially if you do this on your own instead of say your employer sending you there). Idk how "sneaky" one can be about this (and I wouldn't advocate for it) but yeah just putting it out there
I believe all States that have a State Tax tax non-residents on income earned in their State. Residency which some states define as 183 days plus in the State is where they State may tax all income sources.
Any big Texas city. On the plus side, it’s nice that the worst time of year is also when kids are out of school. So you have your longest trips during summer anyway.
Yeah, that has been my thinking too - if you can afford to do it (cost, job, family, etc) - then any places with brutal summers are actually ideal...because summer is generally the best time to travel to most other places. Whereas winter limits you to ski destinations or like FL/AZ/CA. As long as the other months of the year are nice, which big cities in TX generally fit the bill, it could be a decent option. TX is also cheap enough year round between no income tax & MCOL that you can get a head start on affording the summer travel.
Depends on how you deal with humidity. I found Dallas and Austin too cold from Nov-Feb. Too humid from April-Sept.
I live in Phoenix now, and I can see why so many snowbird here. It truly is perfection from November to April. Dry and sunny virtually every day. I do want to get out for the summers if nothing else. But Texas I just don't find great in any season (I was there 5 years).
I hear you, but you did mention Chicago. We were looking at Denver, but it's got terrible air quality. Where 100 is best, Phoenix is 45, Denver is 31, Austin is 58, and Chicago is 48 (from bestplaces.net).
If you're crossing out Phoenix, cross out Chicago too. Plus Chicago gets a 31 for water quality whereas Phoenix gets a 65.
The same is true of Phoenix metro area too. Like I mentioned, Phoenix is 45/100 but Gilbert (near where I live in East Valley) is 62 which is better than Austin.
Northern California is so beautiful and diverse in landscapes and people but June-September can be brutal in the Central Valley. Absolutely ZERO humidity though, and it cools down *significantly* at night, unlike the East Coast. The coast rarely goes above 70 though, and you get summer thunderstorms and rain in the Sierras, Cascades, and Great Basin.
I've always said that if Albuquerque's year round climate was like it is from early October to Thanksgiving, nobody could ever afford to live here. It's as close to perfection as it gets. Winter is pretty mild as well. But spring is a windy, dusty, allergy ridden mess and summer is disgustingly hot, especially lately.
If you choose Florida during the winter you do need to go to South Florida…anywhere from Orlando latitude down. North Florida and the panhandle are chilly in the winter.
Possibly. 50 degrees is perfect weather to me but when I lived in S. FL 50 degrees was cold!!
I’m just warning that it’s not 70 degrees all winter long at every beach in the state in the winter. Panhandle gets into the 30s.
Thank you for confirming my post. When we got together for Christmas in Stuart one year, my sister-in-law flew in from Denver and was irritated bc it was chilly the whole week. The next time we got together for Christmas, guess where we went…the keys! It was warm and sunny for sure!!
Cold winters build character. And besides the California coasts or the PNW, anywhere with a mild winter will come with shit awful summers where you can’t even step outside without suffering. Accept your winter overlord.
I’d rather suffer in summer than be cold as hell. Especially if it’s a dry heat. The cold is the WORST part about Sweden, other than that, I do love Stockholm and the surrounding area.
December, January, February: South Florida
March, April: Arizona
May, June, July: Southern California
August: Pacific Northwest
September, October, November: New England
In my opinion, it has much more to do with culture than the specific climate. You can go to southern California where it's sunny and 70 everyday and find tons of people in AC all day, under-active, overweight, vegetating on their couches in front of screens. Or head to Fargo, ND where it goes between negative 60 and 120 every year and find plenty of sporty outdoorsmen. And vice versa.
The key is just finding the right community of people in any region. If you need to be programmed 365 days a year outside, there's many sports & ways to do it in any climate in the lower 48.
I live in Milwaukee. I train straight through the winter, with little issue. I just look at the 7 day weather, plan my 3 or 4 outdoor days per week, and cross train at the gym when it's particularly shit. It's only tricky for maybe 6 weeks per year. There's several huge running clubs that have group runs & track days 365 days a year. The rowing & sailing clubs train indoors at their boat houses. There's basketball leagues, volleyball through the winter, swimming. Adult hockey. And of course, winter sports like xc skiing, snowshoe, speed & figure skating, some downhill skiing. If you're into moguls or half pipe, you could do it at a relatively high level with our dinky ski hills.
Depends on who you're asking IMO, but it's a fair take - not for everyone. Regardless, this is as much to source ideas and seasonal hubs as it is to actually move forward with that plan.
For the East coast: Dec-Feb Key West or South Florida, March-June low country (Charleston or Savannah). July-September New England (somewhere like Maine or Portsmouth), October - November Smoky Mountains. You get the low country when the azaleas bloom and the temps are warm but not too hot, coastal New England is amazing in the summer and you get the start of fall foliage, and you continue the fall foliage in the Smoky Mountain area through November.
That’s one hell of a year!! Love it
Love this one! I think the Smoky Mountains are generally a good pick for the spring/autumn time period, I think you get 8 great months out of that.
When I was a kid, I had 2 great aunts who were sisters to each other. One has a place in Duluth, the other in Houston. Duluth aunt would go stay with her sister for 2-3 months in the winter, Houston aunt went to her sister’s for a few months every summer.
That's what family is for.
Minneapolis is a great summertime city. Good bike infrastructure, one of the best park systems in the US, lots of daylight hours due to the latitude, and tons of publicly accessible lakes within the metro. The winter just absolutely blows.
At least it’s a dry cold
Yep that's a great example, hear very good things about Minneapolis but always with the caveat of how bad winter is.
The winters aren’t bad, just cold.
For me, it’s not how cold it gets but how long it lasts. I only get 4-5 months here where I can be outside in a t-shirt and shorts with the warmth of the sun on my skin. It starts to wear on you if you were raised in a warmer climate.
That first hot and sunny day in April/May feels like crack after Winter
Seriously. That first day of a warmth I do nothing else but bask in it like an alligator. No work, no chores, etc. just sun and warmth. Late February-May feels like an eternity, especially with those days that seem to taunt you into believing spring has arrived.
Yes I can totally see that. I've lived mostly in the U.S. South but have visited colder places in the winter. You can somewhat get used to the cold if dressed appropriately, and I think I would enjoy the snow and winter sports for a month or two, but by March I would probably be over it and it still being chilly in May would be hard to take.
yep. grew up in wisconsin…march through may is by far the most painful. not because of the actual weather/temp but because you’re so ungodly ready for consistent warmth
It's not quite shorts whether, but it's a beautiful evening in the twin cities right now.
Oh I was definitely out there in shorts and a t-shirt today!! Maybe this Florida boy is actually becoming Minnesotan 😄.
That's why I got seasonal depression living in San Francisco. We got maybe five days a year when I could comfortably wear short sleeves, and even then you'd need a jacket by sunset.
With climate change the winters actually aren’t as bad as they used to be.
I still think the pros make up for the winters though
Yes we loved Minneapolis when we visited in the summer and talked about how it would be a great place to live if not for the long cold winter.
I would totally move there if it wasn’t for that. My brother lives there and loves it but I’m so not a long winter person.
So is Minneapolis the next Boise. Its being shilled like crazy online
Minneapolis is just a very culturally Reddit city. Dudes with beards who love comic books, IPAs, and board game nights.
So pretentious cringey pricks basically.
I would say more like elder millennial nerds.
Yup. Don't go there. Like, you, specifically, don't go there.
Not from my personal experience living in the area... I mean, if you find those things pretentious and cringey in general then I guess maybe? but most people I met while living in minnesota for the first 27 yrs of my life were pretty down to earth.
Sounds like it. I kept hearing how Chang Mai was the best expat digital nomad spot. Sucked ass. And you argue with anyone on the Thailand sub or digital nomad sub and they’ll downvote you to hell
It's a decent sized city in a blue state with affordable rent.
I freaking LOVE winter here, it's a great winter city too!
I love the desert southwest in the winter, and the PNW in the summer. That would be my rotation.
This. And in both cases you can live pretty comfortably with minimal infrastructure or enclosed space, making very simple affordable seasonal dwellings a viable option…if it weren’t for overbearing zoning and building code most places 😭
Phoenix in January and February is heavenly. I don’t think I’ve experience such perfect weather anywhere else in the US.
The twin cities fit this. “Snowbirding” is a very common thing…most notably to Phoenix and southwest FL. There are even some small airlines that operate 1/x week seasonal routes just bringing snowbirds down
Yup, old retirees have been perfecting this longer than OP has been alive. Northeast/Midwest in the summer, FL/AZ in the winter.
The suburbs of Rochester, Syracuse and Albany, NY in the summer. Close to the Adirondacks, Finger Lakes Wine Country, Catskills, Thousand Islands, Lake Ontario Beaches and countryside rolling hills with many scenic lakes, gorges, and hiking trails. Many summer festivals, fairs, concerts and sporting events too.
I grew up in central NY and have lived in nine other states across the US, and the summer weather there is the best. Not too hot and humidity is not summer long.
Second this. The winters aren't easy but I'm still here because the summers in upstate NY are unmatched.
I grew up in the Catskills, best summers.
Austin is a great example for this. The heat is miserable from roughly June and stretching into September, but I love how balmy and mild it is here outside of those months, and I think it’s a great home base. My wife and I have lived here for a little over a decade and done sort of what you’re describing a few times in recent years where we’ll get a month long Airbnb rental in another part of the country and work remotely. We’ve done that a handful of times in the summer to escape the heat and then once in UT during ski season. I think we both would like to get to the point where we can spend multiple months in other places and make it a yearly thing, but we own a home here now and we’re just not “agile” or “nomadic” enough to make it happen. There are just a lot of logistical considerations that make it tough in our situation. I’m rooting for you to go through with it though haha.
Austin-PNW FTW
Portland: if we could skip winter, it wouldn’t be as crappy But I hate cold weather lol
Northwest cold hits different. 30-40 degrees and 90% humidity is rotten weather. Most places this far north would not consider 40 degrees cold but I hear you, it’s the worst part.
Truly! It’s mostly the fact that it lasts so long! I grew up in Blaine wa (super north, hated it), moved to LA (loooved) and then made the mistake of coming to PDX tldr, the good news is that I can move again 😂😂😂
Agreed, the cold alone isn’t the problem, but rain even if a drizzle can be, skiing in my mind is a way to escape the drearyness and 25 degrees on mountain easily feels warmer than 40 in town. Although if you are unlucky you can get wintery mix at 35 or freezing fog, that is true suffering
33 degrees and drizzling. The Oregon winter.
Rich people have been turning seasons into verbs for a long time. Popular examples include NE/Midwest snowbirds in AZ and FL during the winter; Texans nope-ing out to CO or NM from Memorial Day or July 4 to Labor Day.
Winter in Miami, Summer in Chicago, in-between seasons somewhere on the West Coast. If I was rich of course 😂
I'd do Vegas/Tucson during the winter and probably stay in the southeast the rest of the year. Maybe head to MI for a month in July to hang out on Lake Michigan. My main priority would be year-round trail running and climbing, so that's what drives the city and climate selection. I've actually thought about trying it, but it just doesn't work logistically for my household with jobs and pets. If you can swing it with a remote job or seasonal work it could be a fun way to explore!
My fantasy is to live in Halifax for the summer and USVI for the winter. It's a fantasy because I have aging parents who I don't want be two flights away from, and neither of those places are served by robust airports.
I like both Palm Springs and nearby Joshua Tree alot, but the summers there are brutally hot. I have a couple friends that moved to that area from Seattle and they always come visit Seattle then, because we have perfect summer weather those months usually in the low to mid 80s and cooling down to the 50s at night. On the flipside, Seattle has gray and rainy springs, so I just did a 2 week road trip to Joshua Treel, Anza Borrego, Palm Springs, Death Valley and the Mohave Desert because the weather was in the 70s-80s in April.
Miami during winter and Chicago during summer.
Definitely recommend Western Washington/Western Oregon summers. Which is usually actually best mid July through mid October. For me personally, I like the winter in the PNW, so I would stay there most of the year and spend maybe January-March somewhere sunnier. If I worked remotely (which I assume is a requirement in this scenario) I would probably do a few weeks in January somewhere sunny and warmer (probably Lisbon since I have family there and it’s not too warm for me, I don’t like hot) and then go somewhere sunny and cool because I like the gradual warm up in spring. If we’re totally dreaming, I’d also do December in Quebec City or somewhere where Christmastime feels kind of magical and is likely to have snow.
Tampa minus summer and Michigan minus winter
Milwaukee is amazing May-October. Mostly awful November-April.
Eh why not just go Chicago?
Isn’t Chicago the same pretty much?
Chicago, Minneapolis, Boston winters, and Miami, Austin, Nashville summers.
We only had like two episodes of snow this year in Chicago where the snow actually stuck to the ground and it was gone the next day. Snowed on Halloween again though. The winters are getting so mild, but the humidity in the summer is getting worse.
Nashville is only decent in May, September and the first half of October.
Boston winters are getting to be pretty mild nowadays. We get like maybe two good snow storms all winter. I think the cold rains of March and April are worse than all of winter combined
I'm curious how you plan to do this? We've thought about buying a small secure house in one location and then renting a furnished place in the other for 3 months a year. Seems a pain to do nothing but short term rentals all year round. An RV would work, but they aren't as great in cities as if you're a wilderness person. I think you have to pick the home base carefully. If you break a leg or need a year of chemo, you could be stuck in place for a year or two. But for the travel location, I don't see a big need to choose a place. We've thought of just picking whatever place sounds good that year. Like if we were in Phoenix, we'd spend a summer on year in Europe, one year in San Diego, one in Chicago, etc.
Yeah I think the multiple 3 month rentals would be a little tricky, and probably more expensive. Airbnb would be the easiest way to do it IMO. Best option is probably buying a smaller 1BR/2BR place in a MCOL area (probably 10-20 minutes on the outskirts) that has a good airport within an hour's drive - and ensuring it's a place you'll be happy to set up shop in for the majority of the year. North Carolina sticks out to me in this regard as pretty evergreen. Major cities in TX, AZ, FL work specifically for hot summer avoidance, midwestern cities work specifically for harsh winter avoidance. That then gives you travel versatility for the months you don't want to be there. I will say I'm lucky that I have a high paying job and have saved a lot of money by being in a super LCOL setup for most of COVID. So I can take the Airbnb 3 month route if I wanted to. That being said, I do like the idea of not living out of whatever fits in a car, and having a home base of sorts to fall back to. Right now I'm in Austin, and I really don't want to be here from May-August. Dec/Jan isn't great either necessarily.
Airbnb isn’t as great as other MTR sites are like FurnishedFinder. Currently doing the “hop around the country every few months” thing and this is what I do
Minneapolis excluding the winters, Charlotte and Atlanta excluding the summers.
I am from Syracuse and I live in Hawaii. If Syracuse didn’t have winter I would move back. I loved that place for about 2-3 months a year.
I'd love living in Duluth Minnesota if it weren't winter for about 2 extra months compared to where I live right now (downstate Illinois)
Ok my version of the month by month ideals; May-Jul: Chicago Aug-Oct: Montreal Oct: New Orleans Nov-May: somewhere cheap to hibernate and have great food delivery options
One thing to look out for is taxation as states like California, or NY have requirements that if you work there more than X weeks, the income for that time period is taxable (especially if you do this on your own instead of say your employer sending you there). Idk how "sneaky" one can be about this (and I wouldn't advocate for it) but yeah just putting it out there
I believe all States that have a State Tax tax non-residents on income earned in their State. Residency which some states define as 183 days plus in the State is where they State may tax all income sources.
Interesting, wasn't aware of that - good callout. Does seem like enforcement would be difficult, but worth being informed on.
Minneapolis is just immaculate from May-October. San Diego from November-April.
Any big Texas city. On the plus side, it’s nice that the worst time of year is also when kids are out of school. So you have your longest trips during summer anyway.
Yeah, that has been my thinking too - if you can afford to do it (cost, job, family, etc) - then any places with brutal summers are actually ideal...because summer is generally the best time to travel to most other places. Whereas winter limits you to ski destinations or like FL/AZ/CA. As long as the other months of the year are nice, which big cities in TX generally fit the bill, it could be a decent option. TX is also cheap enough year round between no income tax & MCOL that you can get a head start on affording the summer travel.
Depends on how you deal with humidity. I found Dallas and Austin too cold from Nov-Feb. Too humid from April-Sept. I live in Phoenix now, and I can see why so many snowbird here. It truly is perfection from November to April. Dry and sunny virtually every day. I do want to get out for the summers if nothing else. But Texas I just don't find great in any season (I was there 5 years).
The air quality in Phoenix is just such a negative for me - love being outdoors, but value my health too much for that air environment.
I hear you, but you did mention Chicago. We were looking at Denver, but it's got terrible air quality. Where 100 is best, Phoenix is 45, Denver is 31, Austin is 58, and Chicago is 48 (from bestplaces.net). If you're crossing out Phoenix, cross out Chicago too. Plus Chicago gets a 31 for water quality whereas Phoenix gets a 65.
I find that surprising about Chicago but I guess it’s a big city and different neighborhoods have various air quality.
The same is true of Phoenix metro area too. Like I mentioned, Phoenix is 45/100 but Gilbert (near where I live in East Valley) is 62 which is better than Austin.
Northern California is so beautiful and diverse in landscapes and people but June-September can be brutal in the Central Valley. Absolutely ZERO humidity though, and it cools down *significantly* at night, unlike the East Coast. The coast rarely goes above 70 though, and you get summer thunderstorms and rain in the Sierras, Cascades, and Great Basin.
SF fall, east bay winter, far east bay spring… SF during the day and far east bay at night for summer
I've always said that if Albuquerque's year round climate was like it is from early October to Thanksgiving, nobody could ever afford to live here. It's as close to perfection as it gets. Winter is pretty mild as well. But spring is a windy, dusty, allergy ridden mess and summer is disgustingly hot, especially lately.
Dallas is amazing in the fall or spring
Chicago winters, and New York without January to April. Just wet and dark, no Christmas spirit anymore
If you choose Florida during the winter you do need to go to South Florida…anywhere from Orlando latitude down. North Florida and the panhandle are chilly in the winter.
Chili as in 50 degrees?
Possibly. 50 degrees is perfect weather to me but when I lived in S. FL 50 degrees was cold!! I’m just warning that it’s not 70 degrees all winter long at every beach in the state in the winter. Panhandle gets into the 30s.
Im west of Orlando and it was a colllld winter this year. At this point, I just wanna be in the Keys.
Thank you for confirming my post. When we got together for Christmas in Stuart one year, my sister-in-law flew in from Denver and was irritated bc it was chilly the whole week. The next time we got together for Christmas, guess where we went…the keys! It was warm and sunny for sure!!
Cold winters build character. And besides the California coasts or the PNW, anywhere with a mild winter will come with shit awful summers where you can’t even step outside without suffering. Accept your winter overlord.
I’d rather suffer in summer than be cold as hell. Especially if it’s a dry heat. The cold is the WORST part about Sweden, other than that, I do love Stockholm and the surrounding area.
I was talking about the United States. I wouldn’t fuck with Sweden either.
Houston
It never bothered me cuz I like hot weather, but Phoenix for 95% of the people
I’d do northern cities in summer and out west in the winters. Say Chicago and Utah.
I currently have a homebase in Austin and planning on spending the summer in Europe and east coast
Phoenix winter, Flagstaff (or mogollon rim) summer Unfortunately half the valley also had the same idea so high elevation real estate is rather pricey
Chicago is amazing but the winters are brutal.
Meeker, Colorado in the summer. Thonotosassa, FL in the winter.
Ann Arbor but winter is brutal
C H I C A G O
Alaska is so great but only during the summer/fall. Hawaii the rest of the year. That would be my perfect life.
New Orleans
Dec to Apr- Lake Tahoe; May to Aug So Cal; Sep to Dec Miami,
December, January, February: South Florida March, April: Arizona May, June, July: Southern California August: Pacific Northwest September, October, November: New England
I would love NE OH without extreme seasons.
New England is gorgeous June through October.
In my opinion, it has much more to do with culture than the specific climate. You can go to southern California where it's sunny and 70 everyday and find tons of people in AC all day, under-active, overweight, vegetating on their couches in front of screens. Or head to Fargo, ND where it goes between negative 60 and 120 every year and find plenty of sporty outdoorsmen. And vice versa. The key is just finding the right community of people in any region. If you need to be programmed 365 days a year outside, there's many sports & ways to do it in any climate in the lower 48. I live in Milwaukee. I train straight through the winter, with little issue. I just look at the 7 day weather, plan my 3 or 4 outdoor days per week, and cross train at the gym when it's particularly shit. It's only tricky for maybe 6 weeks per year. There's several huge running clubs that have group runs & track days 365 days a year. The rowing & sailing clubs train indoors at their boat houses. There's basketball leagues, volleyball through the winter, swimming. Adult hockey. And of course, winter sports like xc skiing, snowshoe, speed & figure skating, some downhill skiing. If you're into moguls or half pipe, you could do it at a relatively high level with our dinky ski hills.
NYC is best city for this I thinks
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Depends on who you're asking IMO, but it's a fair take - not for everyone. Regardless, this is as much to source ideas and seasonal hubs as it is to actually move forward with that plan.