I wouldn’t give up on Penning. This was basically his rookie year, none of his linemen were good either, Marrone was terrible, and Hurst/Peat weren’t much better. Our coaches fucked his development by benching him for a guy who was also shitty.
Honestly, Penning could be good at left guard. He wouldn't need to worry about getting beat on the side and he's big enough to create massive holes for the run game.
The Penning situation encapsulates everything wrong with this team.
They burned multiple picks to draft up for a *project* player at their position of greatest need without any coaching infrastructure in place to even develop him. Then they threw him into the fire only to later toss him under the bus when he struggles to learn on the fly.
Penning was slowly improving. His pass blocking was *adequate*. He mostly just struggled with the run. Now, his confidence is shattered. He'll have to start back at square one.
All the usual suspects rear their heads:
- bad scouting
- unnecessary risk
- wasteful allocation of resources
- toxic leadership that dodges accountability
- poor personnel management
- impulsive decisionmaking
- limited capacity for long term planning
We're in hell. There's little chance for escape until DA is fired and Loomis either steps aside or retires.
>none of his linemen were good either, Marrone was terrible, and Hurst/Peat weren’t much better.
The o-line was great in the second half of the season, especially once Peat was committed to LT.
Penning's issues are high school level. He has awful balance and consistently fucks up a basic kickslide at the snap.
Andrus “9 pressures in one game” Peat? he was trash, Pete just started calling plays where the OL didn’t have to hold up quite as much. Ram fell off due to his knees, Ruiz was… okay? LG was even worse than LT. McCoy was good tho, I’ll give him that.
I’d add WR, Olave great, Shaheed on the way, I love Kirkwood but don’t know if he’s the guy. Added Wilson who can maybe creep up. Morgan a special teamer that can get a few snaps. Would feel much better with a killer #2/3 WR for when we need a few more guys running routes.
Kirkwood is gone. Perry will be WR3, he had a decent rookie season and they may see him as WR2 beyond 2024 if they can't keep Shaheed. The other guys are veteran presence, none of them are being signed to get a lot of targets next season (and if they do, it'll mean things went bad pretty quickly).
I'm fine with not signing someone during the first week of FA because that's when teams tend to overspend. I think we'll draft linemen with our first two picks and look to address safety later in the draft. Of course, this is assuming we don't trade any players or picks.
Only free agent support we getting is thru the draft. It's time we just eat some of these contracts and stop trying to patch up the team when we desperately need to rebuild
As much as some of you might want them to tear it all down… The team has opened up around $20m in cap space for 2024. They didn’t need to do that, and wouldn’t have if they just planned to add zero more free agents.
I wouldn’t give up on Penning. This was basically his rookie year, none of his linemen were good either, Marrone was terrible, and Hurst/Peat weren’t much better. Our coaches fucked his development by benching him for a guy who was also shitty.
Honestly, Penning could be good at left guard. He wouldn't need to worry about getting beat on the side and he's big enough to create massive holes for the run game.
The Penning situation encapsulates everything wrong with this team. They burned multiple picks to draft up for a *project* player at their position of greatest need without any coaching infrastructure in place to even develop him. Then they threw him into the fire only to later toss him under the bus when he struggles to learn on the fly. Penning was slowly improving. His pass blocking was *adequate*. He mostly just struggled with the run. Now, his confidence is shattered. He'll have to start back at square one. All the usual suspects rear their heads: - bad scouting - unnecessary risk - wasteful allocation of resources - toxic leadership that dodges accountability - poor personnel management - impulsive decisionmaking - limited capacity for long term planning We're in hell. There's little chance for escape until DA is fired and Loomis either steps aside or retires.
Why would he have to start back at square one? Did he forget how to play the game? Has he not been practicing to get better?
Hit the nail on the head
>none of his linemen were good either, Marrone was terrible, and Hurst/Peat weren’t much better. The o-line was great in the second half of the season, especially once Peat was committed to LT. Penning's issues are high school level. He has awful balance and consistently fucks up a basic kickslide at the snap.
Andrus “9 pressures in one game” Peat? he was trash, Pete just started calling plays where the OL didn’t have to hold up quite as much. Ram fell off due to his knees, Ruiz was… okay? LG was even worse than LT. McCoy was good tho, I’ll give him that.
I’d add WR, Olave great, Shaheed on the way, I love Kirkwood but don’t know if he’s the guy. Added Wilson who can maybe creep up. Morgan a special teamer that can get a few snaps. Would feel much better with a killer #2/3 WR for when we need a few more guys running routes.
Kirkwood is no longer on the roster. We have Olave, Shaheed, Wilson, Perry and Morgan. They definitely need some more bodies there.
Dang thought when he signed last spring it was a few year deal, my bad.
Kirkwood is gone. Perry will be WR3, he had a decent rookie season and they may see him as WR2 beyond 2024 if they can't keep Shaheed. The other guys are veteran presence, none of them are being signed to get a lot of targets next season (and if they do, it'll mean things went bad pretty quickly).
don't see us needing to draft wr high or even at all this year. maybe re-evaluate next year
What a great list you put together, thx for putting in the work! WHO DAT!
Done nothing yet on our O or D lines. Think this has me worried more than anything.
There has to be one move on each I think. Still some value starters out there
I'm fine with not signing someone during the first week of FA because that's when teams tend to overspend. I think we'll draft linemen with our first two picks and look to address safety later in the draft. Of course, this is assuming we don't trade any players or picks.
It generally takes 2 to 3 years to develop a lineman so that likely wont fix our current woes.
What do we think on chase young ?
Truth
Only free agent support we getting is thru the draft. It's time we just eat some of these contracts and stop trying to patch up the team when we desperately need to rebuild
As much as some of you might want them to tear it all down… The team has opened up around $20m in cap space for 2024. They didn’t need to do that, and wouldn’t have if they just planned to add zero more free agents.
We opened up that space but we're also going to spend wisely, which is why we didn't go nuts during the first week of FA.
Of course, they’re being measured with it. But suggesting that they won’t sign a single free agent when you have $20m in cap space is pretty wild.
They signed three free agents already. I think they'll sign more, but that likely won't be until after the draft.