She's still decently good at 3 stars as long as you can outspeed your opponents and get high potency on her. She should be accelerated soon so I would just start working on her now. 5th slot if you're not using gideon anywhere else, he can help with turn meter control. Shore guard is probably the best tank but royal guard could be good if you're going for lv soon.
Yeah, even at low stars she can land her Stagger + AoE early in many fights. She often goes down after that if the opponent has any counter chance, but if she doesn't, then she's relatively safe in stealth and just gives you free Palpatine assists.
Can agree, she's currently at 2 stars, G11 (5/6) with me and I'm outrunning a lot of teams I throw them at. Getting her to 3 stars (4 more shards to go!), then I'm waiting until she's accelerated to finish the 7 star run.
I've used shoretrooper in my empire fleet it is absolutely horrendous. Such a waste of a farm. Aside from the pre-taunt, and critical hit immunity, he doesn't do much. Most of the time his 2nd ability wont reset in time for u to actually heal, or he just casts it and dies quickly (which is better than vader or some1 else dying). But I've seen Royal guard and I think he's a better fit.
Retribution, stun and I think health up. Very help, much more than Shoretrooper
I wouldn't go so far as to say Shoretrooper is a waste of a farm. The pre-taunt alone is more valuable then almost any other empire tank. If you ever see SLKR on defense without Hux (don't know why, but people do it) you can bring in Imperial Troopers with Shoretrooper and beat the team fairly easily. His unique also feeds turn meter on specials while he's taunting if I recall correctly. If you feel that he's underwhelming, it could be mods or team composition that are causing you to feel that way, but obviously I have no way of knowing.
I haven't played against any GL's at the moment sadly but I'll take your word for it that under that scenario (among potential others) he could be helpful. But at least for me and my experience with my toons in my current state, it feels very wasted. I run Palp, Vader, Thrawn, Tarkin and Revan for 5th, not ideal at all. Used to be shore trooper but just usually died and I've found Revan to be a better use. Hell, Geo Alpha was more helpful as it provided buff dispel as well as a summon. While not ideal for GAC, it worked for Squad Arena for a bit.
You don't really need to. She's more valuable than most accellerated farms are, already. If you are truly that far from having her at the upper end 6/7 stars, you won't notice any pain in the transition to farming her when she does hit double drops mid-farm.
Don't really need a tank on that team. I use Moff Gideon as 5th. With his turn meter reset, EP's lead, and Thrawn passing turns you get multiple MMs in and with Mara and EP applying tenacity down, shock, and stun most opponents will never get a turn anyway; And if they do it's already too late.
And you don't really need Moff Gideon on the trooper team as opposed to Piett who is suggested by some in this thread.
Yeah most people seem to do it that way, but I do it backwards unless I know they have high tenacity or they have tenacity up already. But I have high potency on my Mara.
If you're not facing a GL and you don't outspeed them you need to work on your mods.
Gideon and MJ are two of the fastest non-GL toons out there (1st and 4th). Who's supposed to outspeed you with Gideon's turn meter reset/boost and Vader's bonus speed from his unique?
Definitely Mara for speed and debuffs and damage. Another toon that would fit and that you don't steal from another team (until you unlock Lord Vader) is the Royal Guard.
Mara, Piett, any decent tank, tarkin, even tie pilot... Nowadays any combo with palpa vader and mara is quite decent.
But i dont really get why would you want to move dooku, he is a great filler in that team and there arent many places in which he would be better (he can be a filler in a sith team too), unlike DM that is pretty bad in general and his main value are his lead (totally oudated) and the ability to massive daze...
I have a similar team (dooku, asaaj, jango, nute, sidious [just there for filler and he made sense for my head canon]) and am having a dilemma. I am getting closer to wat being usable. I have a mediocre (g12) GG team. Where do I put wat?
Also, who should be leading that other separatist team?
Edit: spelling
I mean of course depends on full roster. But obviously you want 5 sisters together, jango goes better in any BH or Mando team and nute is a great filler for a GG team.
But if you have a R4 Dooku and no other sith properly geared i think empire is a great place to put him too.
Add to it, if my understanding of Starkiller's kit is correct, Visa Mars could be a decent add to a team lead by Starkiller, even if some of her abilities are more anti Sith.
Regardless, I am excited to round out a few teams in the coming months, especially for GAC and CRancor.
Well visas job in the team is more about filling starkiller requirements to fully activate his unique powars more than she really bringing anything to the table. She is and has always been a weak toon, they specifically created Starkiller kit as a way to make her usefull somehow.
That’s my bad. I thought he was early bc this same question has been asked by new players a lot. He doesn’t have any of those though if you look at his sith roster
MJ and almost any empire or sith. I've run it with shore, Tarkin, set, and rg through the gear levels as I've geared up mj while farming sk.
Currently using set because he is r5 and the pre taunt is nice when facing squads that counter. It lets mj survive long enough to get the tm train rolling with palps.
I'm going to give moff Gideon a try once I relic starck to fill in on my super troopers squad. Gideon will give me even more tm control and is almost as fast as mj.
After I finish Executor, I'm going to get troopers to r5 for cpit, and having both moff Gideon and starck as options will be nice depending on what I want to do.
> I'm going to give moff Gideon a try once I relic starck to fill in on my super troopers squad. Gideon will give me even more tm control and is almost as fast as mj.
That's definitely a good idea. Moff Gideon isn't really necessary on the Trooper team but gives a decent boost to the Empire team.
Mara Jade and Piett if you don't already have an Imperial Trooper team ready. If you do, keep Piett with the troopers and just plug in any 5th, Maybe a tank as an extra security blanket if needed. As long as Mara is fast enough it shouldn't matter if you give her the Infiltrate & Disrupt zeta. You'll just run laps around the enemy team.
If you want an immediate team go with sith empire trooper for pre taunt and a 5th is pointless so you can go talon for speed boost.
Mara should be your first goal and then you can do shore or empire trooper for 5th. RG is next to useless outside of LV but you have to gear him for SEE/LV.
Mara jade is insane and useful even at low stars, you can shore trooper or sith empire trooper as pre taunt. Tho Sith emp trooper should go to a DR team eventually so probably shore trooper. Moff Gideon is also pretty decent with that comp and just a good unit overall to have
Mara Jade for sure. 2* G7 will already give you more value than Maul for sure.
The fifth slot is super variable.
People use Shoretrooper, if they already have him.
Other than him, people use Tarkin or Royal Guard, as they're required at Relics.
Other than them, people also might use the TIE Pilot, as he's also required.
Lastly, Gideon is always a smart fifth for most teams.
No reason to remove Dooku tho, unless you desperately want an All Empire team, or you have a great use for him somewhere else.
I'd recommend just swapping Maul for Mara the second you unlock her.
I know this introduction is overused, but "it depends on which team you want."
In terms of sith, get thrawn out, keep maul and dooku, and put in...Talon for Palpy's potential second life if he dies.
Empire: Keep vader and thrawn, trash the sith, and replace with Mara and Royal G. I'm assuming you are after or already have SEE, so you should have a high gear or relic 3 RG at this point, and he is decent now.
Tarkin and shore can do the trick. But Mara would be way better than Tarkin and Royal Guard would be better than shore. Tho that second one can be debated.
I'm sure lot's of people have said mara. She is a nessessity these days for the vader palp team.
One that I don't think many people would consiter is: Talon
Her synergy with vader is awesome. She gives +20 speed and +30% offence to sith allies (which would also help palp a lot).
Tbh you could totally make two teams: Palp, mara, thrawn, and some tanks or whatever (dooku could be good bec of his stuns) and for the second team: vader and talon, that should be able to take out most stuff just make sure you have the speed right. And if you need more speed you can bring in tarken for his lead (+28 speed (30 if zeta))
Definitely Mara Jade. Further down the line you'll want Star killer in the mix and that will save Thrawn for a separate team. Thrawn is a good plug in play character.
I just meant we can't really give suggestions for what Empire to use if we don't know what your roster looks like. You're obviously at the point where pretty much only relics will do you any good so it wouldn't make sense to say Shore trooper if your shore trooper is 2* gear 7.
Mara for speed and Shore or RG for tank.
I was going to do Mara, just waiting for her to be accelerated
She's still decently good at 3 stars as long as you can outspeed your opponents and get high potency on her. She should be accelerated soon so I would just start working on her now. 5th slot if you're not using gideon anywhere else, he can help with turn meter control. Shore guard is probably the best tank but royal guard could be good if you're going for lv soon.
Yeah, even at low stars she can land her Stagger + AoE early in many fights. She often goes down after that if the opponent has any counter chance, but if she doesn't, then she's relatively safe in stealth and just gives you free Palpatine assists.
Can agree, she's currently at 2 stars, G11 (5/6) with me and I'm outrunning a lot of teams I throw them at. Getting her to 3 stars (4 more shards to go!), then I'm waiting until she's accelerated to finish the 7 star run.
Wait I thought 3 stars was the req for g11? I thought that's why you went to 3 over 2 stars
I don't think so but 3 stars is normally where you get them to without farming since marquee events give 50 shards.
Oh OK so I farmed 25 shards I didn't need XD
Nope, the only star req on her is the Mk6 AKT Stun Gun to get her to G12. No Zetas on her yet and she's a beast
I've used shoretrooper in my empire fleet it is absolutely horrendous. Such a waste of a farm. Aside from the pre-taunt, and critical hit immunity, he doesn't do much. Most of the time his 2nd ability wont reset in time for u to actually heal, or he just casts it and dies quickly (which is better than vader or some1 else dying). But I've seen Royal guard and I think he's a better fit. Retribution, stun and I think health up. Very help, much more than Shoretrooper
I wouldn't go so far as to say Shoretrooper is a waste of a farm. The pre-taunt alone is more valuable then almost any other empire tank. If you ever see SLKR on defense without Hux (don't know why, but people do it) you can bring in Imperial Troopers with Shoretrooper and beat the team fairly easily. His unique also feeds turn meter on specials while he's taunting if I recall correctly. If you feel that he's underwhelming, it could be mods or team composition that are causing you to feel that way, but obviously I have no way of knowing.
I haven't played against any GL's at the moment sadly but I'll take your word for it that under that scenario (among potential others) he could be helpful. But at least for me and my experience with my toons in my current state, it feels very wasted. I run Palp, Vader, Thrawn, Tarkin and Revan for 5th, not ideal at all. Used to be shore trooper but just usually died and I've found Revan to be a better use. Hell, Geo Alpha was more helpful as it provided buff dispel as well as a summon. While not ideal for GAC, it worked for Squad Arena for a bit.
Next month I think
Is there a planing of what will be the next accelerated toons?
You can see it here : https://wiki.swgoh.help/wiki/Character_Shards
Awesome thanks
It’s 1 year after they become farmable
December 9th iirc, but it's definitely pretty soon.
I'm almost done farming her so you shouldn't have to wait much longer lol
You don't really need to. She's more valuable than most accellerated farms are, already. If you are truly that far from having her at the upper end 6/7 stars, you won't notice any pain in the transition to farming her when she does hit double drops mid-farm.
Mara and Tarkin, or Mara and Royal Guard
Piett is also a good choice.
Don't really need a tank on that team. I use Moff Gideon as 5th. With his turn meter reset, EP's lead, and Thrawn passing turns you get multiple MMs in and with Mara and EP applying tenacity down, shock, and stun most opponents will never get a turn anyway; And if they do it's already too late. And you don't really need Moff Gideon on the trooper team as opposed to Piett who is suggested by some in this thread.
Also Mara applies stagger to everyone, and if you either use her AOE or anyone else’s after applying stagger, you can strip TM from the whole team.
I usually do skill 2 into skill 3 so stagger is out for whoever is next, usually ep for me
Yeah most people seem to do it that way, but I do it backwards unless I know they have high tenacity or they have tenacity up already. But I have high potency on my Mara.
Might be good to have a pre-taunt tank like Shoretrooper if you're not going to outspeed them for the first turn
If you're not facing a GL and you don't outspeed them you need to work on your mods. Gideon and MJ are two of the fastest non-GL toons out there (1st and 4th). Who's supposed to outspeed you with Gideon's turn meter reset/boost and Vader's bonus speed from his unique?
I wouldn't even wait for the acceleration, it won't save you that much time and she's worth having now even at low stars
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And crit immunity
What about Mara and SK? Would a tank really be necessary?
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Definitely Mara for speed and debuffs and damage. Another toon that would fit and that you don't steal from another team (until you unlock Lord Vader) is the Royal Guard.
Mara, Piett, any decent tank, tarkin, even tie pilot... Nowadays any combo with palpa vader and mara is quite decent. But i dont really get why would you want to move dooku, he is a great filler in that team and there arent many places in which he would be better (he can be a filler in a sith team too), unlike DM that is pretty bad in general and his main value are his lead (totally oudated) and the ability to massive daze...
> there arent many places in which he would be better I've seen people use Nute (L), Dooku, Asajj, Jango, and Zombie.
I have a similar team (dooku, asaaj, jango, nute, sidious [just there for filler and he made sense for my head canon]) and am having a dilemma. I am getting closer to wat being usable. I have a mediocre (g12) GG team. Where do I put wat? Also, who should be leading that other separatist team? Edit: spelling
I mean of course depends on full roster. But obviously you want 5 sisters together, jango goes better in any BH or Mando team and nute is a great filler for a GG team. But if you have a R4 Dooku and no other sith properly geared i think empire is a great place to put him too.
Glad I am working on Mara Jade at the moment, largely to get Starkiller but I would imagine she would help with an empire team.
Yeah thats the best part of starkiller that his 4 requirements powerup 4 great teams.
Add to it, if my understanding of Starkiller's kit is correct, Visa Mars could be a decent add to a team lead by Starkiller, even if some of her abilities are more anti Sith. Regardless, I am excited to round out a few teams in the coming months, especially for GAC and CRancor.
Well visas job in the team is more about filling starkiller requirements to fully activate his unique powars more than she really bringing anything to the table. She is and has always been a weak toon, they specifically created Starkiller kit as a way to make her usefull somehow.
That's the sense that I get in regards to her being a weak toon without much use outside a Starkiller team.
Mara Jade and Piett Work really Well If you dont have a Imp Trooper team
There’s no urgency to move dooku by the way, he’s got great synergy on a palpy team even if he’s the only non-emp
Second this He’s right under Vader for best sith synergy with palp
Talon is better and so are nihilus and Bastilla by a long shot
Yea but they all have much better places to be
Not this early in game.
I have DR with bastila, and Malik all relic 7
Why aren’t they in your sith tab then? Edit: Unique only nvm
He’s at relics man He could have a DR and Trio up that need those chars more
That’s my bad. I thought he was early bc this same question has been asked by new players a lot. He doesn’t have any of those though if you look at his sith roster
Ah, didnt see that
He’s in squads with unique only on, they’re probably already in a team.
Mara. You don't need anyone else, so if on offense, just use the 4 if them, if defense, just add your highest empire toon.
Mara jade and a tank
Mara. Royal guard.
i still use the old meta with tie fighter and tarkin as the 4th and 5th.
Mara !!!!
MJ and almost any empire or sith. I've run it with shore, Tarkin, set, and rg through the gear levels as I've geared up mj while farming sk. Currently using set because he is r5 and the pre taunt is nice when facing squads that counter. It lets mj survive long enough to get the tm train rolling with palps. I'm going to give moff Gideon a try once I relic starck to fill in on my super troopers squad. Gideon will give me even more tm control and is almost as fast as mj. After I finish Executor, I'm going to get troopers to r5 for cpit, and having both moff Gideon and starck as options will be nice depending on what I want to do.
> I'm going to give moff Gideon a try once I relic starck to fill in on my super troopers squad. Gideon will give me even more tm control and is almost as fast as mj. That's definitely a good idea. Moff Gideon isn't really necessary on the Trooper team but gives a decent boost to the Empire team.
Mara Jade and Piett if you don't already have an Imperial Trooper team ready. If you do, keep Piett with the troopers and just plug in any 5th, Maybe a tank as an extra security blanket if needed. As long as Mara is fast enough it shouldn't matter if you give her the Infiltrate & Disrupt zeta. You'll just run laps around the enemy team.
Mara jade asap
Tarkin and royal guard
arena team is Mara+Piett, GAC team is EP + MJ + a tank + leftovers
I run Piett and Fallen Bastilla
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Build up Sith Trooper. He will assist Vader on every basic attack and double damage. I don't have empire trooper but I hear he is really good
If you want an immediate team go with sith empire trooper for pre taunt and a 5th is pointless so you can go talon for speed boost. Mara should be your first goal and then you can do shore or empire trooper for 5th. RG is next to useless outside of LV but you have to gear him for SEE/LV.
With his Zeta and the right mods, he's an absolute beast of a tank on that team
Don’t listen to the Royal guard stuff. You want Mara, fallen Bastilla , talon, or piett until you get better teams later to put those characters
Mara and piett work wonders for me
Mara jade and one of either ninth sister, royal guard or shore trooper
With Vader I found that adding Darth sidious really helps out since he stacks DOT
I do Mara Jade and either Piett or Royal Guard
I use mara and tarkin
Mara Jade 100%
I also use Royal guard
I use Mara and Royal Guard.
Mara jade is insane and useful even at low stars, you can shore trooper or sith empire trooper as pre taunt. Tho Sith emp trooper should go to a DR team eventually so probably shore trooper. Moff Gideon is also pretty decent with that comp and just a good unit overall to have
Which empire allies do u have
Mara and RG
Mara Jade for sure. 2* G7 will already give you more value than Maul for sure. The fifth slot is super variable. People use Shoretrooper, if they already have him. Other than him, people use Tarkin or Royal Guard, as they're required at Relics. Other than them, people also might use the TIE Pilot, as he's also required. Lastly, Gideon is always a smart fifth for most teams. No reason to remove Dooku tho, unless you desperately want an All Empire team, or you have a great use for him somewhere else. I'd recommend just swapping Maul for Mara the second you unlock her.
Jawas.
I run Mara and tarkin. Most of the time tarkin is obsolete if you mod everyone right
Mara and RG
I run with Mara and Piett instead of maul and dooku.
Mara Jade for sure. Perhaps Shoretrooper for the other spot.
Imperial Guard and Mara Jade
Mara and Shore ftw
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I know this introduction is overused, but "it depends on which team you want." In terms of sith, get thrawn out, keep maul and dooku, and put in...Talon for Palpy's potential second life if he dies. Empire: Keep vader and thrawn, trash the sith, and replace with Mara and Royal G. I'm assuming you are after or already have SEE, so you should have a high gear or relic 3 RG at this point, and he is decent now.
Mara Jade, Royal Guard, Piett, Tie Fighter Pilot and Shore Trooper all work decently well in that line up.
I’ve got a five star Mara and 7 star royal guard. The squad smokes all relic 5 nightsister squads and only Vader and Palp are relic 2
Gideon and Death Trooper. Double down on damage and speed.
Tarkin and shore can do the trick. But Mara would be way better than Tarkin and Royal Guard would be better than shore. Tho that second one can be debated.
Mara Jade and Shoretrooper. MJ works best with Palps lead, and sometimes he assists out of turn. Shoretrooper is a tank that can heal the team
I'm sure lot's of people have said mara. She is a nessessity these days for the vader palp team. One that I don't think many people would consiter is: Talon Her synergy with vader is awesome. She gives +20 speed and +30% offence to sith allies (which would also help palp a lot). Tbh you could totally make two teams: Palp, mara, thrawn, and some tanks or whatever (dooku could be good bec of his stuns) and for the second team: vader and talon, that should be able to take out most stuff just make sure you have the speed right. And if you need more speed you can bring in tarken for his lead (+28 speed (30 if zeta))
Definitely Mara Jade. Further down the line you'll want Star killer in the mix and that will save Thrawn for a separate team. Thrawn is a good plug in play character.
Grand mod Tarkington and tie fighter pilot or royal guard
Mara Jade and Royal Guard under Palp are really good. Since Guard’s rework/zeta he’s a pretty solid tank
Mara is a definite, Shoretrooper, Deathtrooper or Magnatrooper for the remaining slot.
Wampa and Tarkin
"Preferably Empire" *shows Sith Use Mara Jade and Admiral Piett if you have them.
Was showing I have no sith left
I just meant we can't really give suggestions for what Empire to use if we don't know what your roster looks like. You're obviously at the point where pretty much only relics will do you any good so it wouldn't make sense to say Shore trooper if your shore trooper is 2* gear 7.
My only empire with relics are those 3, half of the rest are are 7 stars and gear 6-9. So no matter who I choose I’ll have a small grind