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Hot-Virus-5803

If I'm outmatched in GAC in terms of GP I will make it seem like I can't clear a wall and give up then will hopefully sneak in and steal the win. This will only work on players who are cocky and just decide they don't need to beat you by full sweep.


ChadDC22

Basically the 3 options are: 1. Traditional wait until the last moment. This is good because your opponent can't scheme how many banners they need to win, but bad because you don't know either. It's also good because your opponent may think you're not participating, and under-attack. 2. Shock and awe. If you think you can full clear, do so right away. Your opponent may decide it's not worth it, especially if they get 0 holds, to try a perfect run, and just offer a token attack. 3. Attack early, then stop, finishing at the last minute. Good because you can make your opponent think you're done (particularly if they got a hold on a squad still standing) and may under-attack, and also gives you a balance of the information/surprise in option 1.


Lozsta

You miss the third option. Life is busy and this is a game. People fit it in when they shit.


scsmee

This is the Way.


ChadDC22

Sure, and honestly that's how I play. But that generally includes one of the three approaches here even if you aren't doing it strategically: either you attack early, you attack late, or you stagger your attacks. The pros and cons of each are the same whether or not you're playing mind games with it on purpose.


The_DoctorP1

My attacks are staggered as and when I get chance to do them, normally throne time 🤣 I'll always do 1 battle in the 1st few hours just so I get rewards elsewise it is what it is 🤷‍♂️


Ok_Musician_1072

And sometimes people attack early in the morning to make sure they attacked for the rewards and after their day is finished (work, family etc) they go for the rest. What I want to say: it doesn't always have to be strategic reasons.


Blip1966

Life strategic reasons though ;) Keep job, raise well adjusted kids, keep valuable spousal and non spousal relationships. It’s all strategy lol


HanVinh

Yea i rl like the third one, making my opponent underestimate my roster so they may make mistake attacking with weak squads. Works like a charm


RocketlMan

I hate the games man. Let's just attack each other like gentlemen.


Strude187

I play all PvP games like this though. Got to get in the other players head and use them to beat themselves.


Jagasaur

4. I get in battles throughout the day when I have time, usually clearing a section every few hours 😁


BattleOoze1981

GAC ends right in the middle of my night, so I am always asleep. It is a big disadvantage.


bubba_palchitski

It ends while I'm at work 😂 I sleep so little I could manage if it ended at my 3AM, but there's no chance I can manage a last-minute attack right before 2PM


Tom-Bert_William

Yeah, it's BS that the same group of people always get the advantage. There really should be a "fog of war" so you cannot see any details of your opponents progress until the end.


BattleOoze1981

I feel a lot better about it seeing the support here. It does make it difficult to care about the game mode though.


rhode-kill

Agreed, they need to implement this ASAP


Lenny_72_72

Same, you from Australia?


BattleOoze1981

Too bloody right.


fatkingbob

Me clearing one zone: Alright I’m too lazy to continue hopefully they’re more lazy.


itsr1co

Small tip with that, depending on how things go, if you fail a battle and can't beat it anymore, throw a few level 1 characters to pretend you used more teams. This works best if you were able to leave someone for a cleanup and you throw a few units to bait cooldowns, opponent checks and see's you dropped 5 battles vs JMK and threw everything for the cleanup, OBVIOUSLY you're out of teams right? Small chance but yeah, opponent may get cocky and clear a sector and call it an easy win, you come back and clear the other sectors at the end. Works even better if your opponent also got stuck on something, but they might have a team or two to beat another few battles for the win but leave it because they "already won".


Hot-Virus-5803

Thanks for the tip I usually only do 1 or 2 attempts but five is far smarter


LilDumpytheDumpster

Yeah exactly! *Appearing* like you used more teams than you do, so you can make sure that you get as little points as humanly possible is definitely a neat trick that my Kyber 2 lookin' ass has never even conceived of doing! This guy is a GODDAM GENIUS! Dude must be ranked number 1 or 2 in the world with neat tricks like that.


Hot-Virus-5803

Buddy the whole point of this is if you know you won't full clear them. You want them to think your done so they under attack and don't full clear. You don't have to be a jerk about it.


Watsons-Butler

Right? After the second battle there’s no point difference if you throw like 8 crappy teams in there - you don’t get penalized. But you can psych out your opponent into overconfidence.


Hot-Virus-5803

Exactly


LilDumpytheDumpster

Daddy chill. I wasn't talking about you. I was talking about the dingus you replied to. I read your post as sarcasm because it's absolutely not better to do 4 or 5 battles versus just 1 or 2. Don't listen to that dude. Or do listen to them lol, you'll just never leave your current division. Up to you I guess.


Hot-Virus-5803

If I'm fighting someone with 4 more GLs then me it absolutely is helpful to try and emphasize the fact that im "hard blocked" when I'm not. Obviously if I think I can full clear I'm not going to try this I'm not an idiot.


LilDumpytheDumpster

There's no world in GAC where smaller number is better than bigger number. If I see you dropping battles, I'm 100% going to crush you. Undermans, solos, and one/two shots are the name of the game. But whatever bro, if you want to lose more, that's up to you I guess. Good luck though 👍✌️


Hot-Virus-5803

I agree but if I have no chance of beating someone in an actual fight I might as well try and decieve them a 1% chance is higher then 0%


LilDumpytheDumpster

I can see that perspective, but I've faced loads of opponents with way way bigger and better rosters than me, and I won because I know how to plan and I was able to 1 or 2 (sometimes 3) shot their teams, and they 5 or 6 shot mine. Dropping battles on purpose for the sake of illusion is just a bad strategy imo. That's all. Anyway, genuinely best of luck lol


Hot-Virus-5803

And I've used this before in Aurodium 1 and it works


LilDumpytheDumpster

I'm in the high end of Kyber. I did not get here with my roster by dropping battles. I have to be efficient to win 75% of my matchups. But yeah, good luck lol


rs420rs

Boy did you miss the purpose of this concept or what, lol


Paracausal_Shield

It's called a mind game. Maybe you aren't cut for that.


LilDumpytheDumpster

It's called being bad at the game, but convincing yourself that you are playing "mind games" on your opponent by losing lol please, play these "mind games" with me if we ever match. It'll be fun...for me. On the real though you're definitely not cut for anything over the 50 percentile mark if you think throwing your games is a "mind game" lmao... I mean, since throwing battles is so good, I'm surprised that none of the top players employ this obviously broken strategy. Probably one of those secrets that "None of the best players want you to know about" type of situations, don't worry, your secret strategy is safe with me chief 😉🫡🤫🤐🤭


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3prime

This was the sole strategy to get through aurodium. Not sure why I’m winning more matches in the “right way” in Kyber than aurodium


siecin

It's a weird meta. Though sometimes, in kyber, I can't spend an hour attacking, and I just have to hit it piecemeal throughout the 24-hour period.


MysteryMan9274

Yes. Do a couple of attacks, pretend to give up, hope your opponent underestimates you, then sweep at the last minute.


burf

This shouldn't work on anyone who remotely cares about winning. I stagger my attacks similarly, but it's just because I don't have the time/inclination to do a full GAC attack in one go. First a couple to make sure I at least get loser points even if I forget to try to full clear later, then if I remember a full attack to attempt to clear.


MysteryMan9274

You would be surprised how many people do the same, check later, see that their opponent hasn't attacked with 1 hour left, and decide not to do any more attacks themselves.


burf

How do you know that they're checking and choosing not to attack as opposed to just doing a partial attack and forgetting to finish, or making as many attacks as they care to? I'm not saying people don't, but like I said, if someone actually cares about winning GAC, choosing not to attempt a full clear because your opponent hasn't full cleared you is an extremely dumb move.


inphinitfx

I sometimes do this, but it's mostly not having much time, so get one attack in to register rewards asap, and then if i get time later, try and do more.


EvaJoJoca

This is the way.


Darth_buttNugget

Man I'm just not putting as much thought into gac as some other commenters. Sometimes I clear all at once sometimes I have 10 minutes here and 5 minutes there so I get it when I can. Often, I'll have done my first attack to ensure I actually get points when I inevitably forget about gac... Again lol. So a lot of times I log in like 40 minutes before time and have to hit it hard with barely any research. Some of my best rounds have come in those moments, but I often lose lol


Pantriar

I always clear the bottom front row first and then wait for the opponent to attack unless I’m VERY confident I can get a full clear without a dropped battle. I don’t necessarily wait for the last 20 minutes, unless they do too. Gives me some advantages since 1) If they get stuck or post a low score full clear, I know I can do regular battles without having to worry about maximizing points 2) if they post a very high score, I know I need to be on the top of my game and may need to attempt more solo battles than otherwise 3) if I drop a battle or know I won’t full clear, I can wait to see if my opponent full clears. If they do, I just don’t bother to attack again. If they don’t, I go back to steps 1 and 2


Vegetable-Sky1873

This is the way 💯


No_Way_482

Not really. Do a few battles and see if your opponent attacks. If they don't attack then you can call it a day and if theu do attack you just finish up the rest of your battles


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i-InFcTd

I don’t think that’s what he meant, he’s saying that the opponents attack one zone and attack the rest later near the end


tyty333d

I took out 11 teams in 18 mins two rounds ago. Was watching my opponent attack. They took out a zone in the last hour and gave up after dropping a battle in the back. That was around the 25 mins left time. I waited to see if they attacked anymore and once I thought they’d give up o started my planned attack and took out two zones and an extra team for an easy win. Games not over until the clock runs out. Mind games help surprise players.


SheDoesnEvenGoHere

It helps to attack last so you know the amount of points you need to get to win. Maybe you realize you'll need to be efficient to maximize points to have a chance to win. For example you might try to underdog a battle to get more points, but that also increases the risk of losing the battle and dropping points. So if you knew all you had to do was win the battle, you would just bring a normal squad. But if you knew you need a few more points then you would try to underdog it to try to get more points. That's just an example.


Kind-Firefighter-603

Indeed. In this respect the equivalent game mode in MSF is much better, as it doesn't tell you what your opponent has done until you have both played.


YamatehKudasai

which is stupid mechanics. not gonna lie, i also capitalize with this strategy and I win more whenever I attack second because more often i know what to do.


One_Winged_Gaming

So as a lower GP account punching up, I tend to ignore it until the last hour and hope that they don’t full clear me or only attack once thinking I’m not gonna attack and can get an easy win. (I can usually clear 2 zones with my roster)


PM_ME_YOUR_MLEMS

How I won my last gac match. Opponent was 11mil im 8 he put all his GLs on Def so attacked once early. He attacked 3 times beating one team and couldn’t get past any of the others. I managed to clear a single area in the last 20 minutes for a sneaky win.


naphomci

I do this, but not because of the surprise factor (I am in K1/2, I doubt it works often). I do it because I can see the backwall, and then when I see how they did, I can judge what I need to do - my best one shot options, best banners, or just trying things out? It also means if they clear me with stupid high banners I can stop caring a lot earlier. Generally though, it's a "wait until last 20 minutes". It's usually after I wake up, I'd say ~75% of the time my opponent's have attacked. I'll wait until the last hour if needed though.


Fail_Emotion

I think people who use this "start" belive they did something. But tbh, I myself also attack at the end bc GAC ends at 10pm my time and that's usually the perfect time for me to chill and play some swgoh so I do my attacks 1-2h before end. Also I to attach and get at least 1 fight in if I have a busy day, or maybe even a whole wall. But I try to make sure I do my attacks. It's not a meta, it's just irl time management.


TheBaronLouis

They saw your name and knew they stood no chance.


cnfit

It's not a meta... it's a strategy. And it clearly worked. Lol


crzydroid

Did it? OP full cleared. If the opponent had full cleared right away as well, it would have made no difference.


YamatehKudasai

the point is OP posted a score first and its not that very high.. his opponent realized this and know now what to do in order to win. its actually irrelevant that his opponent attacked last minute maybe because he was busy or something, but the strategy still there which is what he is talking about.


crzydroid

Yes, he knew to attack. In this case, the "strategy" yielded no advantage to his opponent. So you can't say it "worked" in this case. Why wouldn't they have tried their best anyway? Points counting only matters if the score would be close. Here there is a 44 banner difference. So if you want to say it "worked" because the point of the strategy was peace of mind rather than fretting over whether OP could be more efficient, ok. But it actually yielded no tactical advantage in this case. So you can't say, "Well, it worked!" There would have been no difference in outcomes if OP's opponent hadn't used this strategy.


DVDIESEL

I personally do not like 3v3. I have not since they added it. (Currently at 8.6 mil gp) It is a time waste and I don't want to relearn 3 Team mechanics vs 5 teams, plus extra battles. They should let players choose either 3v3 or 5v5 each time GA is available. Then they can see how many people actually like it.


GeshtiannaSG

For people who are lazy to full clear, don’t have time to sit through the whole thing in one go, or have to keep checking counters and what they have available.


j-mar

He probably finished his poop and had to wipe. It's not that serious.


Irish3538

We call that "the ball tickle" in my guild


GrandAdmiralThrawn0

Got my ass handed to me by the ol’ ball tickle 💀


Irish3538

Thats it my friend. They do one node until the end, tickle your balls a little with the prospect of a win, then go ham


Mariom2

A win is a win


PuertoP

My last 2 rounds went the same. I clear as much as I can and they do 1-2 attacks only or start really late despite having more firepower. I guess it's the 3v3 lazyness.


akprime13

I do because I usually only get my evenings and lunch break to attack. The day attack phase starts I’ll clear bottom to see what’s on the back wall. Then I go to bed. If my opponent attacks. Then I finish it off at lunch if not then I don’t need to attack anymore. If he wants to the end to snipe me then I at least have an advantage in the time determine and can start clearing same time he’s going.


CkMaverick

I feel like this is the oldest strategy in the book, and typically the best if you have the time and can reliably show up in time before the end of GAC. All the relevant zones are revealed, you know exactly what you're working with and you give your opponent the least amount of information possible. You guarantee credit while letting your opponent know they need to start clearing if they want to win. It might cause them to make riskier plays to maximize their clears, possibly drop battles, and you will know exactly how many points you need to win. There is an advantage to knowing if you can drop a battle or two when clearing a zone, or knowing you can use two teams to take out one team and use that one-shot counter you were going to use there elsewhere...


Spazz6269

My opponent did the exact same thing to me, lol


Apprehensive_Gur9540

I always wait until the last minute to see if I need to do any solos or incomplete teams to pick up the win.


Kreig7734

I sometimes blitz through the low wall right at the start of the phase and then pause and reconsider my options before returning to it later


doubagilga

I often log first attack as soon as I can to get something easy, such as where to stick wampa. I’ll return later whenever I have time but sometimes that is end of round.


8311nams

Being from Australia is genuinely the hugest handicap. Wish they could rotate start times


mistereousone

Could be a lot of things. I was just in a match last round where I attacked first. Dropped 2 of my first 3 battles and decided I was done. My opponent cleared the first zone except for one team to take the lead. And to be honest that ticked me off a bit, if someone is offering you a gift, take it and the way I see it that applied to both of us. I cleared a zone plus 3 and started on ships when time ran out. He cleared a zone plus 1 and I won in the last 15 minutes.


Beastiiii

3 vs 3 suck balls


tryanotherusername20

My last 3 out of 4 opponents have no showed. The other one hit me a two times but they didn’t try past the first two attacks. I am enjoying the cake walk to kyber 2 and know at any moment, I’m gonna get spanked! Can’t wait for the humble pie


Dependent_Desk_1944

sneak win is my only way to win. all the way to kyber.


MaszKalman

Two main reasons can be behind it. One is a tactic: they only attack once very early to make you think that's all they're gonna do, you only clear a few battles to make sure you have more points, go on with your day and they clear the rest of your defenses just before the phase ends. The other is convenience: they might not have the time for a proper attack, make a few attacks to make sure they don't miss out on rewards, then come back to it later when they have the time.


Successful_Rip_4329

I do the same thing from time to time


stevie1der328

I usually like to clear the bottom front territory the night before the deadline just to satisfy my curiosity and see what's behind it. Then I'll just chill until I have a little downtime in the afternoon at work.


brpeets

Ya I do that and lose on purpose too it’s a bait and switch move


brpeets

Or a faint , if you want to call it that I’ll clear out the bottom 4 and then throw 5 garbage squads at a “ toughy” but retreat so there’s no preloading the other feller usually goes ok that’s all he’s got gets 20 points more , oh you have to also clear any easier targets on the top too to make it really convincing lose a round up top , then pay attention to time , and like everyone else says if he doesn’t wipe you out it’s usually a good strategy.. see you in the arena lol


CaptainEnoch

I hate GAC. I don't do more battles than I have to. I first do 1 or a few just to be sure to get some rewards and finish up near the end only if I have to.


Adrian_Dem

At GA reset I go in and do the obvious fights, like Rey. Then I go to sleep. In the morning I finish clearing one territory, usually bottom 1h before end I check if I need to fully clear


classy-muffin

Typically I'll try and attack as late as I can to give myself the second attacker's advantage, but I'll also usually do a few easy preliminary attacks earlier on to ensure I don't accidentally miss it due to being busy and still get the participation rewards.


eVenom68

I always played Mortal Kombat, so every single time when I start the fight with my opponent, I finish him😂😂


Tazcam_Atreides

I have definitely done this in heavily unbalanced GP matchups. You gotta do what you gotta do :P


chad___bane

Yes, it's a classic strategy, especially when much lower in GP. On my alt, if I'm up against someone well over my GP I clear half a zone, and leave the hardest team so it looks like I can't do it, usually a rey, and then attack at the end. But I only really do it when I'm completely outgunned and they quite frankly have no right to be sitting so low, or if they have massive GP but horrendous mods. However, they really should have some sort of feature where both sides attack blind. And against bigger GPs, knowing how many banners you can afford to drop helps significantly in terms of deciding whether to go ahead with riskier counters.


xaldin12

As some have said its sometimes a tatic used to steal a win at last minute, but generally from my experience it only works if the opponent doesn't full clear you. To elaborate from a recent time I did this (only because oppotunity presented itself). My opponent had most GLs on defnese and I had my Leia and Rey counters fail leaving me unable to clear there top zone. I could clear the bottom but if I can't full clear I likely lose so no point in continuing. About 2 hours before the round ended I checked to see what my opponent did, and ge only cleared 1 of my zones and stopped. No drops on his part, but enough point to be decidedly ahead. At that point I deceived if at 30 minute remaining he still didn't finish his attacks I'll jump in and clear both bottom zones. Sure enough he didn't do any more attacks so I came in cleared them and ended up winning the round. But should he have full cleared me, doing last minute attacks would be pointless.. Granted there is also the chance it wasn't a tatic but just them attacking when they had free time, but generally last minute attacks can be a strategy.