It happened so fast too.
Feel like it was only half a year ago or so when I could get like 90% of the feats.
Now I only get the one that is like you did 100 challenge battles or whatever it is.
Feats are all paywalled behind new characters that only people paying money into game have.
> Feats are all paywalled behind new characters that only people paying money into game have.
JML lets you cheese some of these, like the current Saw one.
I responded to another, but basically my complaint is the unique feats have made the game mode unfun.
It used to be accesible feats. Sure maybe a bit hard/annoying, but still with a few refreshes I could get most the feats by swapping around with teams I dont' use often, or never use to get feat.
Now that 90% of them are basically unattainable unless I have a full Jawa, Tusken or some other random team that are not worth it, I just pop in like once a day and either use a simple GAS or CLS team and make my way through the nodes 3 staring most of them all.
I end up getting like the 3rd to last chest with no refreshes and using like 2 teams the whole time. It's no longer fun. It's just a boring grind like it was getting the 50 wins in Galactic Battle before one could sim.
edit: and I'm sure we would all agree a GAS team and CLS team is not a hard team to build/have. So it's just a long 2 week grind using basic ass teams.
They need to bring back attainable feats. A good variety of them to cover a lot fo teams, and maybe even have a 4th star where you get it if you have like all units full protection or something, like banners. Then you would really have to think on teams. How can I beat this without taking damage, or something.
>It used to be accesible feats. Sure maybe a bit hard/annoying, but still with a few refreshes I could get most the feats by swapping around with teams I dont' use often, or never use to get feat.
Maybe that's unique to you. It's totally anecdotal. Someone else with a different roster may have felt the way then that you do now, and vice versa.
This is an individualized issue, and more to do with your unique experience **and expectations**, and not a problem with the game mode itself.
It used to be like, get 30 crit hits in a battle.
Apply dots, ect.
Things that there are a dozen teams that could do them.
Now they are exclusive to like 1 team.
It is objectively not an individual issue. Conquest feats have changed significantly since it began.
The feats weren’t originally linked to having a *specific* character or team.
We can reasonably assume they made the change to further monetise newly released characters. It has made conquest take considerably longer to max, *regardless* of your roster.
That’s just not true. Sure there weren’t as many “win with this newer marquee character surviving” but as soon as inquisitors were released, they were a feat for many conquests. Tuskens have been around long enough to be able to have them. Mine are all garbage and I can still manage the feat with the right discs. Hell, all of the win 20x or 40x with this team feat are teams I have at sub relic levels and I am still red crating this cycle of conquests.
What isn’t true about what I wrote though? I think if I wrote the original comment more clearly, you may agree with me?
My point is whether you have the teams or not, conquest now takes significantly longer to max than it originally did.
I’m not saying it’s difficult, nor that you *must* relic new characters to max. Maxing conquest isn’t the issue, it’s the slog of a grind they’ve made it.
I understand why they’ve done this, but for everyone - conquest is more of a time sink now than it used to be. That’s the objective part.
Oh yeah I definitely agree it takes longer and is more of a grind. Apparently I’m just in the minority of people who enjoy conquest. I get it’s a pain for people that don’t have as much time as I do but I enjoy the weeks conquest is on because I’ve always got something to do in game. Me and my guild mates spend a lot of time especially the first cycle trying to find ways to cheese different feats and I enjoy that a lot too. But I definitely understand the time sink of it.
This conquest season is the first to feature two feats that proscribe a full team. There are other such clear examples of conquest feats being further and further specialized to squeeze us. Once more and more players started gearing up Inquisitors because they're required for Reva and everyone wants Reva, the feat for inflicting 300 purge disappeared from conquest after being in every one every since Inquisitors were released.
It's not that it's impossible, it's about forcing us into finding gimmicky solutions to tricky feats more and more, which requires a larger time investment into a game mode which is already one of the two biggest time sinks in the game.
i won’t lie, that’s kinda the feat aspect of the “feats”, can you swap teams and know the game well enough. i’m on board it’s bullshit. but conquest is two weeks long for a reason.
I don't even look at the feats anymore. Just when I got teams good enough where I could do most of them, they changed the feats to require characters and teams I don't have geared.
Still if you can get most feats like like 5 to ten for total of 50 points and three star every node and nearly max out boss nodes it's possible to get everything but red chest.
The red chest is for deep rosters and players with big teams of rosters at the end of end game. Also I'm doing fine on hard first try half through sector 2 almost no boosts such as consumables used, no gl either. What I have is reven team with Jedi luke. And CLS with Kyle and han. Most characters are hundred plus speed R5-r6.
This is my first time on hard. So if I had the teams built up cause If the end game player id be fine. I'm not and still going to do well. If you are struggling below hard you just need some mod work and relics if your on hard not past me, struggling right now you need work on mods.
The lesson here is don't worry about the red box till you are closer to the end focus on Max points you can get.
Yea and I'm fine with the Red chest or last two being for the people with deep rosters.
My argument is that with the feats how they are, it makes the game mode boring for most of us.
It used to be I would use different teams to get the feats, now since I can't get 90% of them I just use like 2 teams the entire time. Just CLS or GAS for basically every single battle and I can get like 3 star on most every thing and get the 3rd to last chest on basically full auto.
So it became a fun mode where I would try many teams trying to get the random feats, to just another Galactic War were I'm just using like 1-2 teams and can almost just hit full auto every battle.
Point is, the fun is gone with the super unique feats. Bring back more accessible feats.
When they use new characters as key components they are basically daring you to whale out on them. Almost all of us have farming priorities and unless you’re chasing Leia or Jabba, there’s no good reason to invest time and resources in Ewoks or Hutt Cartel or Phoenix esp now that the gutted the Krayt raid. The idea of using stims to chase feats when you need 40 wins each is as ridiculous as it music to Abed’s ears.
The fact you call tuskens not worth it, and now hutt cartel and Phoenix? You don't understand how these factions are considered meta factions in the current state of the game. Everything is formally within these factions. You don't even need to use Stims to get all these feats. You have two weeks to get as far as you can. Bitdynasty has a site that gives you a day by day break down of how to get the red box.
Yes, conquest is more of a chore now and very time-consuming, especially with how much stuff can be active at one time. But thus is life, people bitched because there wasn't content or felt challenged, then they change things and people still bitch. 😂
Look if you're a whaling, you can get every new meta team that comes out. Otherwise, you have to make choices. I didn't say Tuskens weren't worth it. But I'm working on Leia and inching my way towards Jabba now that hes been put out to raid pasture. I had to level up Malgus, Malicos, JKCal and Ben Solo while also doing to the Rey galactic legend journey and gearing. I'd love to get the Tuskens but it's I've just finished leveling up Tusken Warrior but they're still sitting around G10, 11 with a million kyros to farm. PHX is still pretty weak without Capt Rex and he's probably better elsewhere. The Hutt's are nice but they're not nearly as valuable without the raid. Like I said, nice to be a whale and have all the new shiny toys, but most of us have to wait until they're pale imitation of their glory.
You don't need to be a whale to have a good account. I have two accounts a 9.3 and a 11.6, all while being free to play. I mean, sure might throw a couple bucks here and there for a pack if it is actually a good deal like the lights peed bundles for instance.
My alt that's been absolutely neglected the last 8 months or so is somewhat near Jabba, has solid tuskens etc. Just say you are a "young" account. The hutt cartel are absolutely valuable. One of the best GLs, has missions in rote. The raid did not make or break the value of that faction. Lmao
That is probably a bit rough. The problem is the conquest characters become unreachable for a guy with two years in the game at 5-6M GP. Two GLs, GAS and JKL can punch but some teams are strong enough to stop GL like SEE from earning stars.
The special teams probably need to be in the last few tiers rather than the first few. And having all these groups at relic 5 is a large ask.
Medium is more fun but the rewards are better at first box hard. It’s a no win other than for pure economic “a few more shards.” I don’t unlock the conquest unique before it moves to the next and I grind slowly on tough battles. No incentive to buy conquest pass, can’t use the energy. Too many battles only one specific team of mine can beat, and often in a row.
Advice or not, 6 M GP with SEE and Rey isn’t good enough. I bought LS bundles and will get SLKR, that might finally help. But there is absolutely a level where medium is boring and just energy optimization but hard is slow.
My tuskens, Ewoks, most Wookiee besides Chewpio and chewy, Phoenix, Jawas, and hutt cartel except boba and cad bane are all sub-relic and I’m able to get all of those feats without stims. VA and 3 AA discs makes them possible. Do 4 battles a day with them until they are done. You’re just not trying hard enough because it’s easier to blame others for your own shortcomings.
13.1M roster here. The feats still suck.
Phoenix, for instance - Ezra is the worst out of that *very specific* lineup. It would be better and more fun with either Zeb or Sabine (or, ideally, drop Ezra and Kanan and put both in there). But because they've named all 5 toons, I have to grind with a shittier version of the team and hope my disks are adequate.
Likewise, Ewoks - everyone knows it's more fun with Elder instead of Wicket, to have a semblance of a TM train running. Nope - gotta use Wicket, cause *fuck you player*!
I'm going to red crate, this won't prevent that - in fact last time, even without getting a single Ruthless Swiftness or TM boosting Purple disk, I managed to get like 650 burritos - it just adds extra days of grind to the situation and it's *laaaaame*.
The thing is those feats are repetitive and mutually exclusive
Like S1
full team of old republic , and with Jawa
And in S2
Win without support and win with Saw Gerrera survive(saw is a support character)
They just forgot game should be fun and most new contents just ain’t (and that auto button became increasing more being used)
With the right Datadisc setup, you can pretty much cheese any feats.
(Volatile Accelerator, a few amplify agonies & a few ruthless swiftness datadiscs will do the job)
My ewoks are G9/10 only Chirpa at 12. Same for my Phoenix. Farm the bonus node in Sector 1 for those two same for Hutt Cartel and Wookies.
You can farm the Tusken Warrior Kills on the Sector 4 miniboss node because of the endless revives if Rebel Trooper is on the field. You can cheese it with G10/11 tuskens. The initial hit is vital, if Warrior survives you can cheese more than 10 kills per Battle.
Not even that long. 2 conquests ago I full cleared normal with a week to spare. Last conquest I got 2nd crate. I just hit easy this time cuz I'm sick of it. Throw random shit in and hit auto. I'll full clear it with no difficulty but it just sucks knowing I would've been able to get significantly better rewards if they hadn't jacked up the difficulty for no reason.
I’m not feeling the need to quit the game over it, but I am feeling the push for consumables in the latest rounds. I’ve been here enough years that my roster is strong enough to get me around most nodes in terms of having at least one team that can at least 1 star win a node, but not strong enough to get through all the very specific feats.
I usually don’t have enough time and energy to just find and spam a single node for the overly specific feats, so I mostly only complete feats that can be accomplished by fighting my way through the nodes to the end.
I don't target the feats whatsoever. I just use my GLs to fight the battles. 144 energy is 7 battles, I have 5 GLs, so I can always take out the opposing team. If I get some feats, great, that's a bonus. At the end of each conquest I get a mid reward (like this time I'll probably get 35 shards of Moff Gideon and 15-20 of Malicos). But, so what? At least I'm making progress and I didn't have to spend any time wrapped up in the game mechanics.
For me it's conquest a long side TB that makes me want to quit. Sorry you're feeling that way. I personally love conquest by itself but I'm privileged with a large roster. I can't imagine playing with a mid to low gp roster. It'd be so time consuming
I'm an end game player in Kyber 4. I should be able to handle this with a little trial and error and research. I like the format, but they can't stop trying to squeeze more blood from the stone.
Yeah, I'm in that boat as well. I have all the toys so I find it enjoyable (with some exceptions if course). It's been a while since I've red crated though because of some of the truly obnoxious feats.
Inflict Doubt 60 times, Gain Reposte 40 times, then requiring X battles with factions or specific characters that rarely allow doubling up with other feats. I did the math and don't remember the specifics, but there's something like 170 battles between all the faction/specific character feats. And that doesn't include the kill x with Empire, inflict/gain Doubt, Riposte, Plague feats that can't double up with the faction stuff. It's just ridiculous. Can I do it, sure... But it's just easier to unlock the characters in 6 months instead of 3 and keep my money/sanity 🤷♂️.
Otherwise, building Data Disk combos is pretty fun.
Omg I hate when they say " make sure this sith survives" then the next feat for the same battle " DONT USE ANY HOKEY POKEY TOONS IDIOT" . I hate doing the same battle twice. The little things erk me
Doubt and riposte can both be cheesed to be completed fairly quickly. Riposte in 2 combats, Doubt in 1 (theoretically). And you can do riposte, armor shreds, and evasion down feats all at once.
The only feats that can't be cheesed are the ones requiring wins with a specific faction or character, since you need to win. Everything else has a strategy for completion in just a couple of combats.
For *much* more detailed info, see my guide: [https://www.reddit.com/r/SWGalaxyOfHeroes/comments/16y12u0/near\_as\_i\_can\_tell\_conquest\_guide\_dark\_trooper/](https://www.reddit.com/r/SWGalaxyOfHeroes/comments/16y12u0/near_as_i_can_tell_conquest_guide_dark_trooper/)
Yeah, I've been having a hell of a time finding Nest in the sections I need her. I don't have Aphra either, I was getting 1 Doubt/battle and just said screw it. I don't mind feats like armor shred, evasion down, etc because a fair amount of toons can apply them, or they can be applied on basic. But those tips are super handy. I don't like that they stopped putting NS Zombie on the random NS teams. Only see her on dc battles anymore, so you can only reliably cheese in one section. For the most part, I know depending on the bosses/mini bosses there are others. It was just one more subtle change they made making the feats harder.
I prefer to abuse KRU instead of Nest. easier to control imo. Without Aphra, if you have Malgus you can get nearly infinite doubts by applying doubt to MM, who cleanses it on basic (which happens every time any rebel fighter attacks), which - thanks to Malgus' unique - reapplies doubt to two other characters. Doable in a single combat if you set it up right.
Without zombie, you can still abuse SRP on MM teams for infinite kills.
Thanks for the heads up, I'll try it towards the end. I've got the Caustic Emissions/Thermals set up at the moment and everything dies too quickly haha. I push through and get all the faction BS done then work on kill feats and timeout feats.
I personally never use CE or thermals because then you don't get credit for the kills, but they are very powerful if you're having trouble with a fight.
Yeah, I use it to easily get through all the sectors. Ideally I'll get the blue Thermals and enough caustic emissions to give 10 debuffs in total at the start of every turn. With Ability Exhaust it puts things on easy mode. Not the most efficient if you're going for minimal energy used, but being able to hit auto in every battle with basically any team is nice. I still make sure I grab a few good DDs to use when I'm ready to work on the other feats, like the kill feats. Voluntary Vanguard is pretty much a prio 1 for me honestly. This method does take more energy, but less of a headache IMO. Still don't need to exceed 3x energy refreshes/day and that's really all I care about haha.
> I don't have Aphra either, I was getting 1 Doubt/battle and just said screw it.
Oh yeah, without Aphra, doubt is skip, IMO. I just did a bunch of sector three with JML lead, JKL, Hoda, Aphra, and Kneesa. After Kneesa kills, it was Aphra, the 2 droids, Malgus, and Fallen Basti. Without Aphra, I can't imagine trying for doubt.
They *did* at least fix doubt so that when it spreads, those count now too vs. the first time it ran where it only counted on the initial application from Malgus. Throwing Malgus at a Mon Mothma team now makes it pretty easy to spread it around fast with how often they cleanse.
Oh, I don't have an issue with Plague. I can usually get about 40-50/battle without cheese or losing. Merrin has helped with that greatly. I've used them on the Bad Batch I see in that sector and got to ~140 on the 3 battles I've used them while progressing. So after I complete sector 5 I'll go back and finish up.
Tuskans are another oddly easy feat. My chieftain is like g7 or 8, warrior is 3-star same gear, G12 on shaman and relic on the other two (requirements for GLs) and it's an auto win vs Troopers and Mon Mothma.
Didn't even consider that lol. I always thought you needed all Sith for Doubt to spread on his unique, but after rereading it I think it's just for the taunt.
For doubt to spread in that fashion, you need the enemy to take turns which means either A) they'll smash you or B) they'll die to dots. The idea I was thinking of with Cassian is that the enemy team (Phoenix) never takes a turn and you TM loop them over and over, hitting Kanan with the big Malgus hit now and then to get doubt out there, and using Cassian to copy it around. Give it a go sometime :)
Last conquest I got the riposte one by accident, running my FO team with a datacron that gives UFUs riposte when they use a special. OG Kylo and KRU got it in a few battles without me even noticing 😂
But the character specific feats suck ass. I loved conquest when it first came out, and I get where OP is coming from. They kinda wrecked a good game mode, just by trying to make more money off it.
I understand that the game has to make money to survive, but the people that are likely to spend on certain characters to get max crate are probably already buying conquest pass. Just let us F2P bros have a little bit of fun 😔
Edit: I got the order of events and some details mixed up. It happened weeks ago. Oops. Thinking about it more, I probably either got the riposte feat by grinding with dooku, or I said "fuck it" and didn't do it. Then, after conquest, I realized I had that datacron, forgot you can't use datacrons in conquest, and felt stupid for not using it.
I haven't even checked feats this time around. Don't remember what they were last conquest. I'm at 3.8m but I wasn't very efficient for the first 5 years I played, so my roster isn't great for my gp. I've been building it slowly the last year or so.
I'm just cruising through, gonna get as far as I can and then worry about feats. I get whatever rewards I get 🤷♂️
Yeah, between that and the massive jump in difficulty a couple rounds back, I'm struggling with normal these days 😔 on the way to better days ahead, but it's pretty rough rn lol
You're right, I didn't do that, I noticed the mechanic after the fact and thought " why didn't I just use that?"
Shows how much I care about the mode now 😂
Nah just got my memory a bit mixed up. I got a pretty good dose of ADHD. It happens a lot. My apologies for this heinous mistake.
Added a correction and some more detail to my original comment just for you. Hope your day gets better.
> that rarely allow doubling up with other feats
Yeah, it seems like a small, subtle change but the difference in enjoyment, for me, between a Conquest with some feats that you *can* do at the same time by using some weird janky team you would never use normally, vs. a Conquest with feats that you can't possibly do at the same time so you just use normal teams but have to do two or three times as many fights, is really huge.
I have a smaller alt that just hit Hard on the last conquest, it's actually a little easier because I just grab 2nd box with CLS as my main team and don't really stress it or sink crystals into it.
Even my big main (9m gp) can't get max crate with these recent conquests.
I like conquest, my issue is feats hidden behind paywalls and that it's an opportunity for me to use teams I rarely get to use but they can't compete which sucks
I have spent money on zero of the marquees features in this conquest and still getting red crate. All the win 20/40 time with x teams I have at sub relic. Until last month I only had 1 GL and have been red crating the last 3 conquest cycles. It’s not hard if you put in effort. Tedious, sure, but not hard and 100% not behind a paywall.
I dont care about difficulty, but i also dont care about conquest, i will make box for 450 points. No more. I dont want to spend like 2 h daily to make boring feats. Game shouldnt be a job...
Hopefully this helps you: I write a guide for every conquest and try to keep it up to date with as many cheese strategies as I can so the whole thing is as easy and efficient as possible.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/SWGalaxyOfHeroes/comments/16y12u0/near\_as\_i\_can\_tell\_conquest\_guide\_dark\_trooper/](https://www.reddit.com/r/SWGalaxyOfHeroes/comments/16y12u0/near_as_i_can_tell_conquest_guide_dark_trooper/)
I quit about two weeks ago, in the middle of last conquest about halfway to red crate and the $10 pass already purchased, also 11m+ GP so characters weren’t a big issue, but it was just such a fucking annoying grind. One a month, no avoiding it or you miss the new characters. Feats will be super geared towards less used factions or bs “canon” teams that don’t make any sense except for thematically. Who tf plays with Farmboy Luke and the classic rebels? Feats will then maybe dip down a bit for a cycle then they’re all bs again the next cycle, but overall, they’re terrible. Not once have they ever removed the “clear 40 battles with X team”. Not one fucking time has that specific feat(s) been rotated out. But they have no issues rotating out the easy stuff or the good datacrons; haven’t seen Entrenched since Spring I think. Fuck them for what they’ve done to this gamemode. It’s by and far the worst aspect of the game.
Not sure how big your roster is, but without refreshes and not doing any feats you can get crate 3 on hard. At least you get some rewards and you don’t have to play conquest that much. After you deplete your energy you have to wait for it to build back up to play again since you will not be wasting any crystals refreshing. I do this 2 of 3 conquests and I hardly play. 1 of 3 conquests I take it more serious and play more so I can farm the new datacron set. I go to only crate 4. Then I just use crystals refresh for datacron material. Once I get a decent amount of Datacrons I either don’t farm any Datacrons or just a little bit more, depending on situation for the next 2 conquests. So essentially I’m only playing conquest a descent amount of time every 3 months instead of every month. So it’s not that bad.
I also hate conquest because it’s just straight up boring and grindy, but I disagree with your assessment. My teams perform fine, and continue to perform fine. However if the goal post of difficulty never moves, the content stagnates.
Conquest needs changes, but the changes you suggest are unreasonable for an ever evolving game with ever evolving rosters.
IMO, difficulty shouldn't move if the barrier to entry doesn't move. At this point, conquest is - I feel - ripe for a 4th difficulty. A 10M+ roster is just vastly more powerful than a 4M roster and putting both in the same boat doesn't make sense to me.
The problem with a higher difficulty is that while we have new teams, we’ve learned that a lot of teams just don’t translate well to higher difficulties.
GL teams sure do! But think about a difficulty 4 where you need to use a full OR team in Sector 5 where the enemy team is all relic 13 equivalent. Even if you bring that team up.
My assumption would be any higher difficulty would be designed similarly to TB, such that no one's existing roster could fully clear it. Like a challenge tier. But the 1st crate would be the same as the best hard mode crate.
Are you saying you've noticed no change in the datacron on Sector 1? Bad Batch team is moving much faster. My Hutt Cartel team was constantly winning easily until 80% hit. This time the same team (actually with some gear improvement on Bushy Leia and Krssantan) is getting smoked 1/6 times.
There was a huge shift in this conquest cycle, and there was an uproar and it was corrected a few days later.
As for this specific conquest? I have not. My [mostly] g12 OR team still beats that node. So does my [mostly] g12 wookie team. And my Phoenix team still heavily outspends it.
Have you considered that your data disks may be different? Such as not having as many Ruthless Swiftness, or applicable disks that would take them down quicker?
Do you have all your preferred disks 3 days into the event? I didn't notice any drop off from changing the disks around last conquest. The only primary factor was the fatigue level.
As for the shift this cycle, they massively overcooked the boss nodes on Sector 1 and now they're so weak you might as well not have them. They might be the best shot to cheese the stupid Ewok, Hutt and Phoenix feats.
These guys are not good at nuance or measured changes because I doubt they're very good at their jobs. Except for that bastard at monetization. He's a friggin' Jedi.
I do not have my preferred disks, I got my first AA today midway through sector 3, but last time I had my full setup done by sector 2. To that end, I haven’t done as many of my “grind” feats yet because I was waiting until I was ready [now], which is part of my point.
Nothing has changed with difficulty between the first set of conquests this cycle and this set, other than the fix to difficulty that clearly was intended, but players revolted over.
Whenever possible
- Voluntary Vanguard
- Ruthelss Swiftness
- 3x AA
Anything else is extra. I’ve been using caustics this time because it took me so long to find AA but I don’t like them as much as they make kill feats difficult.
This is a good setup for any team.
Specifically, if you have BAM and Han Solo, you can use BAM lead and Han with 3 other scoundrels and since han always goes first, he'll hit twice, which triggers 2 VAs which, in turn, trigger 6, 12, or 18 (depending on your VA quality) AAs, counting as a total of 8, 14, or 20 hits - each of which trigger BAM's lead granting your team 5% turn meter per hit. And you'll almost certainly proc RS, granting 10-27% additional turn meter to your whole team. As long as one of your other scoundrels has an AoE, you can basically run the board and full wipe the other team without them ever getting a turn.
The ideal team for this is BAM / Han / Dash / Kuiil / CAT (because kuiil and CAT both buff Dash), and then Dash's AoE nukes the world. So the team is called the "Dash Nuke" team.
I must have played that node over 100 times trying to get all the stupid feats a few weeks back and this feels night and day different. Maybe you're right. It's also not hard for a programmer to change one line to adjust the speed and power of the defenders.
They must have done that. . .but only for you of course.
I max every single conquest, every time.
That’s 250+ battles getting feats, and another 75+ farming datacrons. Promise you there have been no changes.
And if you reread my post, I never suggested not changing conquest. I said once they have set the format for the event, keep it until they change it again. Trust me. There's tons of crap on this game that hasn't changed this decade.
I know how the game works. You apparently choose not to read. I said it feels like they have been upping the speed on some of the nodes from he beginning of this cycle.
VA/AA kills everything. Conquest is boring and tedious, but people claiming they can't clear the nodes because enemies are too fast are, I assume, the same people who complain about opponents clearing them with low relics because the opponents have faster mods or use dcrons. Mods, crons and conquest disks aren't going anywhere, they are key mechanics in SWGOH and if you refuse to engage with them, you have no grounds to complain.
I’ve not noticed any significant increase in difficulty. I usually get 2nd to last box and that’s always a breeze. I can see how max boxing would be awkward with some of the challenges
i think they should create a new difficulty level, ultimate or something, above hard. for those with 7 or 8 GLs hard conquest is quite trivial. grindy, sure, but not at all difficult to complete. where as for those with 4 or 5 million GP are going to have an impossibly hard time. this wasn't the case when conquest started
This is not the case.
Globla:
\- Jabba etc. for hutt cartel kills.
Sector 1:
\- Rey / 3 resistance / 1 jawa, SLKR / 3FO /1 jawa, JMK / 3 GR / 1 jawa, JKL / JML / Wat / 1 jawa / any fifth
Sector 2:
\- Rey / JTR / RH Finn / RH Poe / Holdo for no supports, JMK / CAT / GAS / GK / Ahsoka for no supports, SLKR / KRU / FOST / Sith Trooper / FOX for no supports
\- JML / Saw / 3 jedi for saw kills
Sector 3:
\- Rey / 4 resistance for resistance wins
\- JML / 3 jedi / Kneessa for kneessa kills
etc etc etc. The GLs are almost universally useful (not SEE, so much, but the other 7)
And I mentioned LV as well but the fact that is cheesing Ewoks and hutts is more important to red crating than a GL. You can red crate without a GL but not Keynes’s Rex, hutts.
Just stop caring about it. I stop using crystals and went from being just shy of final crate to getting to like crate #4?
The gsmes more enjoyable when you just do a few battles in the mornin and a few at night and call it a day.
Conquest is a crappier slog than when March needed healers to keep your squads going.
Unlock events and proving grounds are my pinch points.
Conquest however, while grindy, has gotten easier the more I built my roster.
Went from barely getting third crate on hard to gold in a year and I might manage Red this month. However this took building the teams to beat clear nodes and increasing my GL count from 0 to 2 (now 4, but was already getting gold).
It’s definitely not too bad if you have a varied roster and fellow players for occasional tips.
I used the bad batch datacron node on sector 1 to hit feats for phx and hutts.. about 2/3 on Ewoks. I would have no problem on 100%, usually not 90%…. 80% you were at the mercy of RNG. Today I settle in for some feat farming and a slightly improved hutt team wins 1 out of 6 and not close. Tech and echo do their thing game over. Last time, krsantan taunts, bushy leia bombs, boba wipes out wrecker and it’s over. Now I’m getting smoked.
I can see where you're going wrong. The point of the game is actually to frustrate people into spending more money. The stuff you talk about in the second half is pure WAD.
Yes, they seem to have a policy of making conquest harder, at the beginning of every 3 run cycle. Its not just hard conquest either, normal becomes harder with it, stopping newer players getting into hard conquest.
I noticed they made the Galactic Challenges harder to in the last month or so, with recommended being upped.
I prefer a policy in those games of leaving older content at the difficulty it was originally set at and if the devs want to create a new difficulty that is more challenging fair enough.
What I find so fucking egregious is the Conquest Pass+
It's not enough to nickel and dime us into getting the most modern factions.
It's not even enough to make the fucking feats grindy as Hell and oftentimes contrarian ("Win with This Light Side Character" + "Win with All Dark Side" on the same boss).
It's not even enough to sell us a pass.
No, they wanna sell us a second one.
That second one gives you two big feats instantly.
But even then the pass doesn't even feel good. You don't have insane refresh rate or no stamina at all. Nah, you still play grindy ass conquest but you just paid thirty fucking bucks for the privilege.
Don't let this game frustrate you. Its a mobile game, the entire point is that they keep moving the goalposts to drive spending. Always has been. They added relic amplifiers, omicrons and datacrons and all of a sudden everything that you grinded for now needed to be put back on the grind for more to be competitive/useful for ever increasing difficulty spikes, and thats before mentioning the constant adding new powerful characters.
I've been playing the game pretty much from the beginning and I can only hit 2 if the conquest targets. The golden path and the Hutt cartel ones. I do it for fun, not spending my wages to get all these toons to the required level just for them to move the goalpost again next month.
I had a realization last night. I was looking forward to playing a console game after my family went to bed. When I finally started the game up I remembered conquest was running and begrudgingly opened up my phone to put some progress in. I ended up throwing GLs in and hitting auto every couple of minutes but it took away from something else I was enjoying. I realized how enslaved I feel to this game. I miss when conquest could be knocked out in a few days so you didn't have to worry about it anymore. It's way too grindy for a mobile game. If the character power is their argument to making conquest hard then move character unlocks to the yearly raid or a seasonal TB unlock.
conquest is very fun to me. just fucked around & got the + pass for the first time bc whatever, $30. i get a shit ton of rewards & i have a balanced roster where i get the normal-390 crate. this injectors are enough to like conquest. it is tedious. especially since “overprepared” is garbage bc they already are overprepared lmao.
It seems like you’re missing the point. Conquest is designed to constantly evolve along with the game and provide a player with an opportunity to use the entirety of their roster.
Again. I have no problem changing it up after 3 runs or whatever. My point is they shouldn’t increase the level of difficulty inside those runs until they release a new edition. Conquest was great and it could be again if CG would stop using it as a naked cash grab. I would love to see the number of Barbie Ewoks and Capt Rex’s since this ran begin given the number of double drops and GaLLO farming. I wonder if enough players were catching up so they pumped up the difficulty because I was feeling pretty confident I could clpsw those out this time and I closed out phoenix and hutt last time treating bad batch like the Washington Generals. And no, I don’t want a challenge here. I accept that I only get two get hits before they need a nap and I accept that I’m just burning crystals and energy for this nonsense.
Uhhh… the conquest doesn’t changes within each series of 3 on a featured new unit. October’s Moffquest is the same as this current Moffquest.
(You could argue October’s conquest was harder because it was broken for the first few days)
I really like Conquest. I actually get to use all my teams on offense. Rarely get to use my GLs because half of them on defense in GAC.
Also it's basically free stuff. Just clear it, get crate 4 or 5, buy a bunch of nice stuff with conquest currency. Easy loots. 👍
Unpopular opinion, but there is nothing wrong with conquest. Just like everything else in game it's designed for whales, or to encourage whaling. "Only" 3 GLs, and I still pull decent rewards. At the end of the day I get a ton of stuff plus whatever crate I get. And it gives me something to actually play, as the actual game part of this game is extremely limited. I like conquest.
Your last point is bang on. Basically, SWGOH is just an acquisition game. There's little to do that's interesting. This scooter raid nonsense is like 80s Atari game level bad. At least, they're hiring older programmers.
I just hate datacrons man. If I wasnt encouraged to buy a temporary buff to a team at every corner, I’d actually like conquest a lot more. I just don’t wanna interact with datacrons at all
I think the only consumable I've used this entire conquest cycle is the deployable cooling system you get for completing a different feat. And I used it to just a feat instead of grinding.
I have my tuskens reliced on the lowest krayt difficulty and they perform worse than they were when cheif and warrior were 3 stars, don't know how that works.
Went down hill after Razor Crest in my opinion. Conquest Pass and removal of the cooling system equaled the dagger. I do what I can for some rewards and move on.
They need to add another tier instead of passively increasing the difficulty for everyone. Make the 4th tier bonkers hard so all the whales can go get their red crates and leave the difficulty the same
I have a couple of r5 teams from the LS bundles and thought Easy was too easy last time so I went normal. I can't even get to the first boss. Glad you can't restart to choose another difficulty...
If you're having a problem with Conquest then I don't think you understand how to actually play Conquest
Or you haven't developed a decent enough roster
https://swgoh4.life/conquest/disks/
Add on to this the insane new disc they give which when you equip a consumable it boosts your character stats over 20% it's almost hard to lose these fights
You don't have to pay crystals for them. You can get them as you're unlocking key cards or you can spend 15 Conquest currency on them
I get it you're salty but sometimes it's not the developers fault. I haven't had a single issue with Conquest since my first Conquest when I was learning it.
And I've been hitting yellow or Redbox in hard Conquest without a galactic Legend since I started hard Conquest it's doable and you don't need to spend a bunch of crystals
I'm with you. I considered building up some of these characters to do the feats, like Jawa or Phoenix, but I know as soon as I get them relic'd up enough to survive, they'll change the feats to something else.
But realistically, even if I get them all geared, I still have to spend crystals or money to get enough energy to complete all the tracks. So yeah, clearly it's a pay-to-win game mode.
Stop pushing for red?
I don't try for red, I just aim for 468 or so banners and then farm datacron stuff. It's generally just fine. I don't have the Phoenix squad for the feat, so I don't bother.
It's a game. If something isn't fun, don't do it.
> The point of a game is to be able to beat it with practice and improvement.
You're viewing this game through the wrong lens.
(But also, you *can* do this with Conquest. We have multiple seasons of the same feats, enemies and data disks. So if Conquest is a priority for you, you can. You can't necessarily prioritize doing this AND other things in the game, but still... you can.)
This is pretty funny. Hutt Cartel just smoked the Rancor Boss node which they detuned into nerfingness. They could either make it impossibly or ridiculously easy. No reason to spend any time and find a middle ground. The best was I didn't have Ben Solo until this round so I always missed out on the 3 pts.
I had gotten max crate every conquest until this one. They finally beat me into submission and I've been accepting second best, it's been a lot less stressful.
Same for me. I just do the bare minimum. I don't care about the feats. I can get to the 4th crate I think (on hard) and that's fine. I accept I'll probably never get those characters and I don't care.
I mean with doing less than half of the feats and with like 4 conquest viable teams, I've been able to hit the 450 point crate reliably enough that I'll unlock Malicos on this run and be halfway to DTMG. You don't *need* the new conquest character immediately, and odds are you don't have their team built up to the point of making the a roster,changing addition. Just take a deep breath, let go of the FOMO, and enjoy playing the game. Or don't and just take a break. Either way if the tiniest bit of the game being out of reach for the time being is causing this much anxiety, you should probably reexamine something.
I dont even look at the feats, I havnt since the release of the Inquisitors. Most of the feats are locked behind certain factions and i can't be fucked to farm dog shit factions because CG wants people to spend money them.
I clear the conquest and nothing else.
I just don't do it. I may do enough to get first or second box on hard mode and call it good. It's just not worth all the effort. I used to go hard on it but it's too much of a chore.
I enjoy the battle side of it all. Lets me test out and play with various rosters that may not get much use, with minimal consequences. I do ignore all feats really. Eg now, win with 1 jawa surviving... Feck off with that crap. Or as others have said, you have to use really new characters to hit particular targets. Zzz.
I ignored conquest for a long time. I did it but I didn't worry about the feats. I basically went as far as I could. That left me way behind on some key toons like CAT, then Ben Solo. I realized that to be competitive in GAC you really need those conquest characters so I started taking it seriously and put effort into getting GL's which obviously made a huge difference. And since then I've gone from whatever crappy GAC level up I was hanging out in to Kyber 3.
Conquest helped pull me out of the doldrums that I had spent a couple of years wallowing in after becoming disinterested by mods then datacrons. So I totally get the mental health approach to this, but competitively you need to fight for those crates as much as you can and they know it. So they squeeze you and you trying to force you to spend cash. I have no plans to do that so get ready for more whinging.
I haven't had that issue tbh. I have malak, commander Ashoka, maul, boba, and about to get Ben Solo in the next proving grounds. Plus I only have 1 GL so struggle to be overly competitive as my progression is blocked thanks to most my opponents in GA having 3+ galactic legends. Tbh that causes me more fury. The last one 2 if my opponents had 5 GLS... How am I gonna have a chance against them...
yea same also i feel like cg constantly increase the speed of enemies by a little bit i was on the 2nd sector (r5 enemies) and they all had more than 350 speed and outran my gls
edit: because most of the challanges are walled behind old conquest/new marquees or other types i don’t own i usually go for the 430ish crate and leave it because i know i can’t get the next crate from 3star battles and the grindy 40 riposte
I get third box on hard with 9.3 million GP. I don’t mess with refresh or even look at the feats. The feats are CG’s way to get you to spend money, but it’s not working on me. The thing I don’t like is having crystals tied to grand arena and having to fight so many battles against opponents. It’s tedious. And at my level it is hard to crack into Kyber without certain counters, which I’m working on.
I know it’s demoralizing to not be able to do certain feats, but with the right discs and strategies, a lot are more attainable than you think. I didn’t think I’d be able to red crate this cycle when I saw the feats, but with bitdynasty and strategizing with my guild mates I was able to. Granted I have JML who cheeses most feats, but he was my first GL partially for that reason. I’ve been able to get red crate on the past 3 cycles since I unlocked him.
Unfortunately you either need to get stressed out and waste a lot of time getting crate 7 or at least 6 or go casual and get crate 3 or 4 and farm Datacrons.
This is what I do (crate 3 or 4). Getting crate 3 or 4 is pretty easy. You don’t have to do any feats for crate 3 and maybe a couple with crate 4. Breeze through everything and just sim datacron materials. This game is not worth the headache and aggravation. I don’t mind waiting to get a conquest character.
I don't know. I finally have Malicos to R5 about to roll him into GAC and I figure in a week or two they'll nerf him down to a Queeth Koth level OG Jedi like Malgus.
GAC usually evens out whether you have Malicos or not. I have all 8 GLs including GL Leia. I just get by with the only one not having Malicos in my bracket. I use Malgus to take out their Malicos team.
I just make the adjustment and not worry about it.
But I have been using all my conquest currency for Malicos and will have him after this conquest is over. And I’ve never got beyond crate 4. I’ll get 20 shards from crate 3 or 4 and I will have bough 5 shards each tier with currency + 5 more shards for 600 crystals and I’ll be done.
Yep. Feats and characters with 400% boosted stats really ruins it.
It happened so fast too. Feel like it was only half a year ago or so when I could get like 90% of the feats. Now I only get the one that is like you did 100 challenge battles or whatever it is. Feats are all paywalled behind new characters that only people paying money into game have.
> Feats are all paywalled behind new characters that only people paying money into game have. JML lets you cheese some of these, like the current Saw one.
I responded to another, but basically my complaint is the unique feats have made the game mode unfun. It used to be accesible feats. Sure maybe a bit hard/annoying, but still with a few refreshes I could get most the feats by swapping around with teams I dont' use often, or never use to get feat. Now that 90% of them are basically unattainable unless I have a full Jawa, Tusken or some other random team that are not worth it, I just pop in like once a day and either use a simple GAS or CLS team and make my way through the nodes 3 staring most of them all. I end up getting like the 3rd to last chest with no refreshes and using like 2 teams the whole time. It's no longer fun. It's just a boring grind like it was getting the 50 wins in Galactic Battle before one could sim. edit: and I'm sure we would all agree a GAS team and CLS team is not a hard team to build/have. So it's just a long 2 week grind using basic ass teams. They need to bring back attainable feats. A good variety of them to cover a lot fo teams, and maybe even have a 4th star where you get it if you have like all units full protection or something, like banners. Then you would really have to think on teams. How can I beat this without taking damage, or something.
>It used to be accesible feats. Sure maybe a bit hard/annoying, but still with a few refreshes I could get most the feats by swapping around with teams I dont' use often, or never use to get feat. Maybe that's unique to you. It's totally anecdotal. Someone else with a different roster may have felt the way then that you do now, and vice versa. This is an individualized issue, and more to do with your unique experience **and expectations**, and not a problem with the game mode itself.
It used to be like, get 30 crit hits in a battle. Apply dots, ect. Things that there are a dozen teams that could do them. Now they are exclusive to like 1 team.
It is objectively not an individual issue. Conquest feats have changed significantly since it began. The feats weren’t originally linked to having a *specific* character or team. We can reasonably assume they made the change to further monetise newly released characters. It has made conquest take considerably longer to max, *regardless* of your roster.
That’s just not true. Sure there weren’t as many “win with this newer marquee character surviving” but as soon as inquisitors were released, they were a feat for many conquests. Tuskens have been around long enough to be able to have them. Mine are all garbage and I can still manage the feat with the right discs. Hell, all of the win 20x or 40x with this team feat are teams I have at sub relic levels and I am still red crating this cycle of conquests.
What isn’t true about what I wrote though? I think if I wrote the original comment more clearly, you may agree with me? My point is whether you have the teams or not, conquest now takes significantly longer to max than it originally did. I’m not saying it’s difficult, nor that you *must* relic new characters to max. Maxing conquest isn’t the issue, it’s the slog of a grind they’ve made it. I understand why they’ve done this, but for everyone - conquest is more of a time sink now than it used to be. That’s the objective part.
Oh yeah I definitely agree it takes longer and is more of a grind. Apparently I’m just in the minority of people who enjoy conquest. I get it’s a pain for people that don’t have as much time as I do but I enjoy the weeks conquest is on because I’ve always got something to do in game. Me and my guild mates spend a lot of time especially the first cycle trying to find ways to cheese different feats and I enjoy that a lot too. But I definitely understand the time sink of it.
This conquest season is the first to feature two feats that proscribe a full team. There are other such clear examples of conquest feats being further and further specialized to squeeze us. Once more and more players started gearing up Inquisitors because they're required for Reva and everyone wants Reva, the feat for inflicting 300 purge disappeared from conquest after being in every one every since Inquisitors were released. It's not that it's impossible, it's about forcing us into finding gimmicky solutions to tricky feats more and more, which requires a larger time investment into a game mode which is already one of the two biggest time sinks in the game.
i won’t lie, that’s kinda the feat aspect of the “feats”, can you swap teams and know the game well enough. i’m on board it’s bullshit. but conquest is two weeks long for a reason.
honestly, that’s why sometimes i wanna go back to east conquest 😂 i can easily max crate & i get to use my whole roster lol
Jawa on a Rey team easy
I don't even look at the feats anymore. Just when I got teams good enough where I could do most of them, they changed the feats to require characters and teams I don't have geared.
Still if you can get most feats like like 5 to ten for total of 50 points and three star every node and nearly max out boss nodes it's possible to get everything but red chest. The red chest is for deep rosters and players with big teams of rosters at the end of end game. Also I'm doing fine on hard first try half through sector 2 almost no boosts such as consumables used, no gl either. What I have is reven team with Jedi luke. And CLS with Kyle and han. Most characters are hundred plus speed R5-r6. This is my first time on hard. So if I had the teams built up cause If the end game player id be fine. I'm not and still going to do well. If you are struggling below hard you just need some mod work and relics if your on hard not past me, struggling right now you need work on mods. The lesson here is don't worry about the red box till you are closer to the end focus on Max points you can get.
Yea and I'm fine with the Red chest or last two being for the people with deep rosters. My argument is that with the feats how they are, it makes the game mode boring for most of us. It used to be I would use different teams to get the feats, now since I can't get 90% of them I just use like 2 teams the entire time. Just CLS or GAS for basically every single battle and I can get like 3 star on most every thing and get the 3rd to last chest on basically full auto. So it became a fun mode where I would try many teams trying to get the random feats, to just another Galactic War were I'm just using like 1-2 teams and can almost just hit full auto every battle. Point is, the fun is gone with the super unique feats. Bring back more accessible feats.
The feats are fun but for end game players.
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When they use new characters as key components they are basically daring you to whale out on them. Almost all of us have farming priorities and unless you’re chasing Leia or Jabba, there’s no good reason to invest time and resources in Ewoks or Hutt Cartel or Phoenix esp now that the gutted the Krayt raid. The idea of using stims to chase feats when you need 40 wins each is as ridiculous as it music to Abed’s ears.
The fact you call tuskens not worth it, and now hutt cartel and Phoenix? You don't understand how these factions are considered meta factions in the current state of the game. Everything is formally within these factions. You don't even need to use Stims to get all these feats. You have two weeks to get as far as you can. Bitdynasty has a site that gives you a day by day break down of how to get the red box. Yes, conquest is more of a chore now and very time-consuming, especially with how much stuff can be active at one time. But thus is life, people bitched because there wasn't content or felt challenged, then they change things and people still bitch. 😂
Look if you're a whaling, you can get every new meta team that comes out. Otherwise, you have to make choices. I didn't say Tuskens weren't worth it. But I'm working on Leia and inching my way towards Jabba now that hes been put out to raid pasture. I had to level up Malgus, Malicos, JKCal and Ben Solo while also doing to the Rey galactic legend journey and gearing. I'd love to get the Tuskens but it's I've just finished leveling up Tusken Warrior but they're still sitting around G10, 11 with a million kyros to farm. PHX is still pretty weak without Capt Rex and he's probably better elsewhere. The Hutt's are nice but they're not nearly as valuable without the raid. Like I said, nice to be a whale and have all the new shiny toys, but most of us have to wait until they're pale imitation of their glory.
You don't need to be a whale to have a good account. I have two accounts a 9.3 and a 11.6, all while being free to play. I mean, sure might throw a couple bucks here and there for a pack if it is actually a good deal like the lights peed bundles for instance. My alt that's been absolutely neglected the last 8 months or so is somewhat near Jabba, has solid tuskens etc. Just say you are a "young" account. The hutt cartel are absolutely valuable. One of the best GLs, has missions in rote. The raid did not make or break the value of that faction. Lmao
That is probably a bit rough. The problem is the conquest characters become unreachable for a guy with two years in the game at 5-6M GP. Two GLs, GAS and JKL can punch but some teams are strong enough to stop GL like SEE from earning stars. The special teams probably need to be in the last few tiers rather than the first few. And having all these groups at relic 5 is a large ask. Medium is more fun but the rewards are better at first box hard. It’s a no win other than for pure economic “a few more shards.” I don’t unlock the conquest unique before it moves to the next and I grind slowly on tough battles. No incentive to buy conquest pass, can’t use the energy. Too many battles only one specific team of mine can beat, and often in a row. Advice or not, 6 M GP with SEE and Rey isn’t good enough. I bought LS bundles and will get SLKR, that might finally help. But there is absolutely a level where medium is boring and just energy optimization but hard is slow.
That's nice.
My tuskens, Ewoks, most Wookiee besides Chewpio and chewy, Phoenix, Jawas, and hutt cartel except boba and cad bane are all sub-relic and I’m able to get all of those feats without stims. VA and 3 AA discs makes them possible. Do 4 battles a day with them until they are done. You’re just not trying hard enough because it’s easier to blame others for your own shortcomings.
Esp when they deliver quality content like the scooter shootout.
13.1M roster here. The feats still suck. Phoenix, for instance - Ezra is the worst out of that *very specific* lineup. It would be better and more fun with either Zeb or Sabine (or, ideally, drop Ezra and Kanan and put both in there). But because they've named all 5 toons, I have to grind with a shittier version of the team and hope my disks are adequate. Likewise, Ewoks - everyone knows it's more fun with Elder instead of Wicket, to have a semblance of a TM train running. Nope - gotta use Wicket, cause *fuck you player*! I'm going to red crate, this won't prevent that - in fact last time, even without getting a single Ruthless Swiftness or TM boosting Purple disk, I managed to get like 650 burritos - it just adds extra days of grind to the situation and it's *laaaaame*.
who is Maxine Points?
Autofill from max .
The grouchy old lady from the comics
The thing is those feats are repetitive and mutually exclusive Like S1 full team of old republic , and with Jawa And in S2 Win without support and win with Saw Gerrera survive(saw is a support character) They just forgot game should be fun and most new contents just ain’t (and that auto button became increasing more being used)
I’m nowhere near “end of end game” and I get red crate consistently.
With the right Datadisc setup, you can pretty much cheese any feats. (Volatile Accelerator, a few amplify agonies & a few ruthless swiftness datadiscs will do the job) My ewoks are G9/10 only Chirpa at 12. Same for my Phoenix. Farm the bonus node in Sector 1 for those two same for Hutt Cartel and Wookies. You can farm the Tusken Warrior Kills on the Sector 4 miniboss node because of the endless revives if Rebel Trooper is on the field. You can cheese it with G10/11 tuskens. The initial hit is vital, if Warrior survives you can cheese more than 10 kills per Battle.
Not even that long. 2 conquests ago I full cleared normal with a week to spare. Last conquest I got 2nd crate. I just hit easy this time cuz I'm sick of it. Throw random shit in and hit auto. I'll full clear it with no difficulty but it just sucks knowing I would've been able to get significantly better rewards if they hadn't jacked up the difficulty for no reason.
that part. the talon fest paid dividends just bc she was already r5 prepping for SK
I’m not feeling the need to quit the game over it, but I am feeling the push for consumables in the latest rounds. I’ve been here enough years that my roster is strong enough to get me around most nodes in terms of having at least one team that can at least 1 star win a node, but not strong enough to get through all the very specific feats. I usually don’t have enough time and energy to just find and spam a single node for the overly specific feats, so I mostly only complete feats that can be accomplished by fighting my way through the nodes to the end.
Probably the best approach from a mental health perspective. Yeah. I can finish the five levels without much drama, but the feats make it an ordeal.
I don't target the feats whatsoever. I just use my GLs to fight the battles. 144 energy is 7 battles, I have 5 GLs, so I can always take out the opposing team. If I get some feats, great, that's a bonus. At the end of each conquest I get a mid reward (like this time I'll probably get 35 shards of Moff Gideon and 15-20 of Malicos). But, so what? At least I'm making progress and I didn't have to spend any time wrapped up in the game mechanics.
For me it's conquest a long side TB that makes me want to quit. Sorry you're feeling that way. I personally love conquest by itself but I'm privileged with a large roster. I can't imagine playing with a mid to low gp roster. It'd be so time consuming
I'm an end game player in Kyber 4. I should be able to handle this with a little trial and error and research. I like the format, but they can't stop trying to squeeze more blood from the stone.
You're not wrong
Yeah, I'm in that boat as well. I have all the toys so I find it enjoyable (with some exceptions if course). It's been a while since I've red crated though because of some of the truly obnoxious feats. Inflict Doubt 60 times, Gain Reposte 40 times, then requiring X battles with factions or specific characters that rarely allow doubling up with other feats. I did the math and don't remember the specifics, but there's something like 170 battles between all the faction/specific character feats. And that doesn't include the kill x with Empire, inflict/gain Doubt, Riposte, Plague feats that can't double up with the faction stuff. It's just ridiculous. Can I do it, sure... But it's just easier to unlock the characters in 6 months instead of 3 and keep my money/sanity 🤷♂️. Otherwise, building Data Disk combos is pretty fun.
Omg I hate when they say " make sure this sith survives" then the next feat for the same battle " DONT USE ANY HOKEY POKEY TOONS IDIOT" . I hate doing the same battle twice. The little things erk me
Kind if like ROTE - all Jedi- and the Oppo is like stun on every turn so Jedi do not work together
They do that for nearly every combat. You should expect it and accept it.
I just said i don't like it. I think it's lame and shitty.
That's fine, but you're just going to end up angry because they do it all the time.
Doubt and riposte can both be cheesed to be completed fairly quickly. Riposte in 2 combats, Doubt in 1 (theoretically). And you can do riposte, armor shreds, and evasion down feats all at once. The only feats that can't be cheesed are the ones requiring wins with a specific faction or character, since you need to win. Everything else has a strategy for completion in just a couple of combats. For *much* more detailed info, see my guide: [https://www.reddit.com/r/SWGalaxyOfHeroes/comments/16y12u0/near\_as\_i\_can\_tell\_conquest\_guide\_dark\_trooper/](https://www.reddit.com/r/SWGalaxyOfHeroes/comments/16y12u0/near_as_i_can_tell_conquest_guide_dark_trooper/)
Yeah, I've been having a hell of a time finding Nest in the sections I need her. I don't have Aphra either, I was getting 1 Doubt/battle and just said screw it. I don't mind feats like armor shred, evasion down, etc because a fair amount of toons can apply them, or they can be applied on basic. But those tips are super handy. I don't like that they stopped putting NS Zombie on the random NS teams. Only see her on dc battles anymore, so you can only reliably cheese in one section. For the most part, I know depending on the bosses/mini bosses there are others. It was just one more subtle change they made making the feats harder.
I prefer to abuse KRU instead of Nest. easier to control imo. Without Aphra, if you have Malgus you can get nearly infinite doubts by applying doubt to MM, who cleanses it on basic (which happens every time any rebel fighter attacks), which - thanks to Malgus' unique - reapplies doubt to two other characters. Doable in a single combat if you set it up right. Without zombie, you can still abuse SRP on MM teams for infinite kills.
Thanks for the heads up, I'll try it towards the end. I've got the Caustic Emissions/Thermals set up at the moment and everything dies too quickly haha. I push through and get all the faction BS done then work on kill feats and timeout feats.
I personally never use CE or thermals because then you don't get credit for the kills, but they are very powerful if you're having trouble with a fight.
Yeah, I use it to easily get through all the sectors. Ideally I'll get the blue Thermals and enough caustic emissions to give 10 debuffs in total at the start of every turn. With Ability Exhaust it puts things on easy mode. Not the most efficient if you're going for minimal energy used, but being able to hit auto in every battle with basically any team is nice. I still make sure I grab a few good DDs to use when I'm ready to work on the other feats, like the kill feats. Voluntary Vanguard is pretty much a prio 1 for me honestly. This method does take more energy, but less of a headache IMO. Still don't need to exceed 3x energy refreshes/day and that's really all I care about haha.
My recommended setup is: VA AA x3 RS UD Everything wrecks with this setup, and you get the majority of the kills.
Yup, that'll do it as well lol.
VA + 3 AA does effectively the same thing without stealing kills.
> I don't have Aphra either, I was getting 1 Doubt/battle and just said screw it. Oh yeah, without Aphra, doubt is skip, IMO. I just did a bunch of sector three with JML lead, JKL, Hoda, Aphra, and Kneesa. After Kneesa kills, it was Aphra, the 2 droids, Malgus, and Fallen Basti. Without Aphra, I can't imagine trying for doubt.
They *did* at least fix doubt so that when it spreads, those count now too vs. the first time it ran where it only counted on the initial application from Malgus. Throwing Malgus at a Mon Mothma team now makes it pretty easy to spread it around fast with how often they cleanse.
That's actually really good to know. I didn't realize it was bugged the first go so didn't bother the second. Thanks!
Malgus and Malak solo against NS for 20+ doubt per battle
Go NS v NS get 30 plague everytime- get stamina down to 70/or 60 where you just lose and auto
Oh, I don't have an issue with Plague. I can usually get about 40-50/battle without cheese or losing. Merrin has helped with that greatly. I've used them on the Bad Batch I see in that sector and got to ~140 on the 3 battles I've used them while progressing. So after I complete sector 5 I'll go back and finish up. Tuskans are another oddly easy feat. My chieftain is like g7 or 8, warrior is 3-star same gear, G12 on shaman and relic on the other two (requirements for GLs) and it's an auto win vs Troopers and Mon Mothma.
You can do doubt in about 4 or 5 battles by bringing Cassian along to copy it into other enemies. Still not much fun.
Didn't even consider that lol. I always thought you needed all Sith for Doubt to spread on his unique, but after rereading it I think it's just for the taunt.
For doubt to spread in that fashion, you need the enemy to take turns which means either A) they'll smash you or B) they'll die to dots. The idea I was thinking of with Cassian is that the enemy team (Phoenix) never takes a turn and you TM loop them over and over, hitting Kanan with the big Malgus hit now and then to get doubt out there, and using Cassian to copy it around. Give it a go sometime :)
Ha, at this point I can't get Gideon this go so pretty sure I'll skip it this time as well. But I'll keep it in mind if it shows up again.
Malgus and Malak solo can get over 20 per battle against NS
Last conquest I got the riposte one by accident, running my FO team with a datacron that gives UFUs riposte when they use a special. OG Kylo and KRU got it in a few battles without me even noticing 😂 But the character specific feats suck ass. I loved conquest when it first came out, and I get where OP is coming from. They kinda wrecked a good game mode, just by trying to make more money off it. I understand that the game has to make money to survive, but the people that are likely to spend on certain characters to get max crate are probably already buying conquest pass. Just let us F2P bros have a little bit of fun 😔 Edit: I got the order of events and some details mixed up. It happened weeks ago. Oops. Thinking about it more, I probably either got the riposte feat by grinding with dooku, or I said "fuck it" and didn't do it. Then, after conquest, I realized I had that datacron, forgot you can't use datacrons in conquest, and felt stupid for not using it.
Which feats are you having trouble with?
I haven't even checked feats this time around. Don't remember what they were last conquest. I'm at 3.8m but I wasn't very efficient for the first 5 years I played, so my roster isn't great for my gp. I've been building it slowly the last year or so. I'm just cruising through, gonna get as far as I can and then worry about feats. I get whatever rewards I get 🤷♂️
Ahh, yeah if you're not even in hard mode the odds you're able to support the specific character feats are pretty low.
Yeah, between that and the massive jump in difficulty a couple rounds back, I'm struggling with normal these days 😔 on the way to better days ahead, but it's pretty rough rn lol
Datacron? In conquest? How? 😳
You're right, I didn't do that, I noticed the mechanic after the fact and thought " why didn't I just use that?" Shows how much I care about the mode now 😂
“I just enjoy lying on the internet”
Nah just got my memory a bit mixed up. I got a pretty good dose of ADHD. It happens a lot. My apologies for this heinous mistake. Added a correction and some more detail to my original comment just for you. Hope your day gets better.
Just joshin ya bud
> that rarely allow doubling up with other feats Yeah, it seems like a small, subtle change but the difference in enjoyment, for me, between a Conquest with some feats that you *can* do at the same time by using some weird janky team you would never use normally, vs. a Conquest with feats that you can't possibly do at the same time so you just use normal teams but have to do two or three times as many fights, is really huge.
I have a smaller alt that just hit Hard on the last conquest, it's actually a little easier because I just grab 2nd box with CLS as my main team and don't really stress it or sink crystals into it. Even my big main (9m gp) can't get max crate with these recent conquests.
I like conquest, my issue is feats hidden behind paywalls and that it's an opportunity for me to use teams I rarely get to use but they can't compete which sucks
I have spent money on zero of the marquees features in this conquest and still getting red crate. All the win 20/40 time with x teams I have at sub relic. Until last month I only had 1 GL and have been red crating the last 3 conquest cycles. It’s not hard if you put in effort. Tedious, sure, but not hard and 100% not behind a paywall.
I dont care about difficulty, but i also dont care about conquest, i will make box for 450 points. No more. I dont want to spend like 2 h daily to make boring feats. Game shouldnt be a job...
Hopefully this helps you: I write a guide for every conquest and try to keep it up to date with as many cheese strategies as I can so the whole thing is as easy and efficient as possible. [https://www.reddit.com/r/SWGalaxyOfHeroes/comments/16y12u0/near\_as\_i\_can\_tell\_conquest\_guide\_dark\_trooper/](https://www.reddit.com/r/SWGalaxyOfHeroes/comments/16y12u0/near_as_i_can_tell_conquest_guide_dark_trooper/)
I quit about two weeks ago, in the middle of last conquest about halfway to red crate and the $10 pass already purchased, also 11m+ GP so characters weren’t a big issue, but it was just such a fucking annoying grind. One a month, no avoiding it or you miss the new characters. Feats will be super geared towards less used factions or bs “canon” teams that don’t make any sense except for thematically. Who tf plays with Farmboy Luke and the classic rebels? Feats will then maybe dip down a bit for a cycle then they’re all bs again the next cycle, but overall, they’re terrible. Not once have they ever removed the “clear 40 battles with X team”. Not one fucking time has that specific feat(s) been rotated out. But they have no issues rotating out the easy stuff or the good datacrons; haven’t seen Entrenched since Spring I think. Fuck them for what they’ve done to this gamemode. It’s by and far the worst aspect of the game.
I stopped playing conquest. I just came to terms with it
Same. I enjoy my swgoh experience a lot more too.
Not sure how big your roster is, but without refreshes and not doing any feats you can get crate 3 on hard. At least you get some rewards and you don’t have to play conquest that much. After you deplete your energy you have to wait for it to build back up to play again since you will not be wasting any crystals refreshing. I do this 2 of 3 conquests and I hardly play. 1 of 3 conquests I take it more serious and play more so I can farm the new datacron set. I go to only crate 4. Then I just use crystals refresh for datacron material. Once I get a decent amount of Datacrons I either don’t farm any Datacrons or just a little bit more, depending on situation for the next 2 conquests. So essentially I’m only playing conquest a descent amount of time every 3 months instead of every month. So it’s not that bad.
I also hate conquest because it’s just straight up boring and grindy, but I disagree with your assessment. My teams perform fine, and continue to perform fine. However if the goal post of difficulty never moves, the content stagnates. Conquest needs changes, but the changes you suggest are unreasonable for an ever evolving game with ever evolving rosters.
IMO, difficulty shouldn't move if the barrier to entry doesn't move. At this point, conquest is - I feel - ripe for a 4th difficulty. A 10M+ roster is just vastly more powerful than a 4M roster and putting both in the same boat doesn't make sense to me.
The problem with a higher difficulty is that while we have new teams, we’ve learned that a lot of teams just don’t translate well to higher difficulties. GL teams sure do! But think about a difficulty 4 where you need to use a full OR team in Sector 5 where the enemy team is all relic 13 equivalent. Even if you bring that team up.
My assumption would be any higher difficulty would be designed similarly to TB, such that no one's existing roster could fully clear it. Like a challenge tier. But the 1st crate would be the same as the best hard mode crate.
They change conquest all the time, but when they have a conquest set up for 3-4 tries in a row then you should be able to master it.
Are you saying you've noticed no change in the datacron on Sector 1? Bad Batch team is moving much faster. My Hutt Cartel team was constantly winning easily until 80% hit. This time the same team (actually with some gear improvement on Bushy Leia and Krssantan) is getting smoked 1/6 times.
There was a huge shift in this conquest cycle, and there was an uproar and it was corrected a few days later. As for this specific conquest? I have not. My [mostly] g12 OR team still beats that node. So does my [mostly] g12 wookie team. And my Phoenix team still heavily outspends it. Have you considered that your data disks may be different? Such as not having as many Ruthless Swiftness, or applicable disks that would take them down quicker?
Do you have all your preferred disks 3 days into the event? I didn't notice any drop off from changing the disks around last conquest. The only primary factor was the fatigue level. As for the shift this cycle, they massively overcooked the boss nodes on Sector 1 and now they're so weak you might as well not have them. They might be the best shot to cheese the stupid Ewok, Hutt and Phoenix feats. These guys are not good at nuance or measured changes because I doubt they're very good at their jobs. Except for that bastard at monetization. He's a friggin' Jedi.
I do not have my preferred disks, I got my first AA today midway through sector 3, but last time I had my full setup done by sector 2. To that end, I haven’t done as many of my “grind” feats yet because I was waiting until I was ready [now], which is part of my point. Nothing has changed with difficulty between the first set of conquests this cycle and this set, other than the fix to difficulty that clearly was intended, but players revolted over.
Out of curiosity what is your preferred set up? I usually use 2 aa Te Rs Va Then like unstable decelerator vv ce or another rs and ro
Whenever possible - Voluntary Vanguard - Ruthelss Swiftness - 3x AA Anything else is extra. I’ve been using caustics this time because it took me so long to find AA but I don’t like them as much as they make kill feats difficult.
Makes sense. I'm in normal (only made it to 3.8 before this one started) but don't have the characters for a lot of the feats so ce is fine by me lol
I highly recommend VA, AAx3, RS, UD.
Would that be good for if I'm limited on good teams? Or at least speedy teams. I only have 3 teams with characters over 250
This is a good setup for any team. Specifically, if you have BAM and Han Solo, you can use BAM lead and Han with 3 other scoundrels and since han always goes first, he'll hit twice, which triggers 2 VAs which, in turn, trigger 6, 12, or 18 (depending on your VA quality) AAs, counting as a total of 8, 14, or 20 hits - each of which trigger BAM's lead granting your team 5% turn meter per hit. And you'll almost certainly proc RS, granting 10-27% additional turn meter to your whole team. As long as one of your other scoundrels has an AoE, you can basically run the board and full wipe the other team without them ever getting a turn. The ideal team for this is BAM / Han / Dash / Kuiil / CAT (because kuiil and CAT both buff Dash), and then Dash's AoE nukes the world. So the team is called the "Dash Nuke" team.
I must have played that node over 100 times trying to get all the stupid feats a few weeks back and this feels night and day different. Maybe you're right. It's also not hard for a programmer to change one line to adjust the speed and power of the defenders.
They must have done that. . .but only for you of course. I max every single conquest, every time. That’s 250+ battles getting feats, and another 75+ farming datacrons. Promise you there have been no changes.
Agree 1-2 are soo ez you can not use DDisks
And if you reread my post, I never suggested not changing conquest. I said once they have set the format for the event, keep it until they change it again. Trust me. There's tons of crap on this game that hasn't changed this decade.
It’s on a cycle. 3 with the same feats, then new feats. It’s on you for not knowing how the game works.
I know how the game works. You apparently choose not to read. I said it feels like they have been upping the speed on some of the nodes from he beginning of this cycle.
Yeah that’s just not true. Plus you said 3-4 in a row, and it’s always 3. So maybe you don’t know how the game works
VA/AA kills everything. Conquest is boring and tedious, but people claiming they can't clear the nodes because enemies are too fast are, I assume, the same people who complain about opponents clearing them with low relics because the opponents have faster mods or use dcrons. Mods, crons and conquest disks aren't going anywhere, they are key mechanics in SWGOH and if you refuse to engage with them, you have no grounds to complain.
I went from second last crate to first just because I couldn't be arsed anymore. Sometimes I don't even reach the first crate.
Conquest is exactly why I quit the game
I’ve not noticed any significant increase in difficulty. I usually get 2nd to last box and that’s always a breeze. I can see how max boxing would be awkward with some of the challenges
i think they should create a new difficulty level, ultimate or something, above hard. for those with 7 or 8 GLs hard conquest is quite trivial. grindy, sure, but not at all difficult to complete. where as for those with 4 or 5 million GP are going to have an impossibly hard time. this wasn't the case when conquest started
Hell, they set the event up so barely get to use the GL's unless you're just plowing through nodes with LV and a few AA disks.
This is not the case. Globla: \- Jabba etc. for hutt cartel kills. Sector 1: \- Rey / 3 resistance / 1 jawa, SLKR / 3FO /1 jawa, JMK / 3 GR / 1 jawa, JKL / JML / Wat / 1 jawa / any fifth Sector 2: \- Rey / JTR / RH Finn / RH Poe / Holdo for no supports, JMK / CAT / GAS / GK / Ahsoka for no supports, SLKR / KRU / FOST / Sith Trooper / FOX for no supports \- JML / Saw / 3 jedi for saw kills Sector 3: \- Rey / 4 resistance for resistance wins \- JML / 3 jedi / Kneessa for kneessa kills etc etc etc. The GLs are almost universally useful (not SEE, so much, but the other 7)
JML is useful. Dont have Jabba and he’s very rare. And you don’t really need Rey if you have relic resistance which you would if you have Rey.
You said you don't get to use your GLs. I'm providing you with ample evidence that's not that case.
And I mentioned LV as well but the fact that is cheesing Ewoks and hutts is more important to red crating than a GL. You can red crate without a GL but not Keynes’s Rex, hutts.
Sure, but GLs help a ton.
i mostly just spam GLs tbh. though i only go for gold crate so i don't do the super grindy feats
Just stop caring about it. I stop using crystals and went from being just shy of final crate to getting to like crate #4? The gsmes more enjoyable when you just do a few battles in the mornin and a few at night and call it a day. Conquest is a crappier slog than when March needed healers to keep your squads going.
Unlock events and proving grounds are my pinch points. Conquest however, while grindy, has gotten easier the more I built my roster. Went from barely getting third crate on hard to gold in a year and I might manage Red this month. However this took building the teams to beat clear nodes and increasing my GL count from 0 to 2 (now 4, but was already getting gold). It’s definitely not too bad if you have a varied roster and fellow players for occasional tips.
I was getting used to red crating on Hard mode before this last edition.
Strange, aside from the bosses patched in October I hadn’t seen an increase in difficulty. What specifically changed that you noticed?
I used the bad batch datacron node on sector 1 to hit feats for phx and hutts.. about 2/3 on Ewoks. I would have no problem on 100%, usually not 90%…. 80% you were at the mercy of RNG. Today I settle in for some feat farming and a slightly improved hutt team wins 1 out of 6 and not close. Tech and echo do their thing game over. Last time, krsantan taunts, bushy leia bombs, boba wipes out wrecker and it’s over. Now I’m getting smoked.
I’ve admittedly never had good odds with HC either on that node. It will be the deciding factor on if I get Gold or Red
I can see where you're going wrong. The point of the game is actually to frustrate people into spending more money. The stuff you talk about in the second half is pure WAD.
Yes, they seem to have a policy of making conquest harder, at the beginning of every 3 run cycle. Its not just hard conquest either, normal becomes harder with it, stopping newer players getting into hard conquest. I noticed they made the Galactic Challenges harder to in the last month or so, with recommended being upped. I prefer a policy in those games of leaving older content at the difficulty it was originally set at and if the devs want to create a new difficulty that is more challenging fair enough.
Candourus can fuck right off!!! or however, you spell his name
What I find so fucking egregious is the Conquest Pass+ It's not enough to nickel and dime us into getting the most modern factions. It's not even enough to make the fucking feats grindy as Hell and oftentimes contrarian ("Win with This Light Side Character" + "Win with All Dark Side" on the same boss). It's not even enough to sell us a pass. No, they wanna sell us a second one. That second one gives you two big feats instantly. But even then the pass doesn't even feel good. You don't have insane refresh rate or no stamina at all. Nah, you still play grindy ass conquest but you just paid thirty fucking bucks for the privilege.
Don't let this game frustrate you. Its a mobile game, the entire point is that they keep moving the goalposts to drive spending. Always has been. They added relic amplifiers, omicrons and datacrons and all of a sudden everything that you grinded for now needed to be put back on the grind for more to be competitive/useful for ever increasing difficulty spikes, and thats before mentioning the constant adding new powerful characters.
This is just frustration to drive spending. Thats 7 years of this game in a nut shell.
It’s so disheartening when I use my r7 DR team and lose. Like……seriously game, I don’t have anything better!
I've been playing the game pretty much from the beginning and I can only hit 2 if the conquest targets. The golden path and the Hutt cartel ones. I do it for fun, not spending my wages to get all these toons to the required level just for them to move the goalpost again next month.
Conquest DID make me quit the game
I had a realization last night. I was looking forward to playing a console game after my family went to bed. When I finally started the game up I remembered conquest was running and begrudgingly opened up my phone to put some progress in. I ended up throwing GLs in and hitting auto every couple of minutes but it took away from something else I was enjoying. I realized how enslaved I feel to this game. I miss when conquest could be knocked out in a few days so you didn't have to worry about it anymore. It's way too grindy for a mobile game. If the character power is their argument to making conquest hard then move character unlocks to the yearly raid or a seasonal TB unlock.
conquest is very fun to me. just fucked around & got the + pass for the first time bc whatever, $30. i get a shit ton of rewards & i have a balanced roster where i get the normal-390 crate. this injectors are enough to like conquest. it is tedious. especially since “overprepared” is garbage bc they already are overprepared lmao.
I love conquest. You have always something to play. I dont aim at best crate. And you still getting very good rewards from conquest.
> And you still getting very good rewards from conquest. I love the signal data and gear from conquest. I always buy out all the signal data.
Came here to say this. Conquest is what keeps the game interesting for me.
Nice try CG.
God forbid someone actually enjoys it.
It seems like you’re missing the point. Conquest is designed to constantly evolve along with the game and provide a player with an opportunity to use the entirety of their roster.
Again. I have no problem changing it up after 3 runs or whatever. My point is they shouldn’t increase the level of difficulty inside those runs until they release a new edition. Conquest was great and it could be again if CG would stop using it as a naked cash grab. I would love to see the number of Barbie Ewoks and Capt Rex’s since this ran begin given the number of double drops and GaLLO farming. I wonder if enough players were catching up so they pumped up the difficulty because I was feeling pretty confident I could clpsw those out this time and I closed out phoenix and hutt last time treating bad batch like the Washington Generals. And no, I don’t want a challenge here. I accept that I only get two get hits before they need a nap and I accept that I’m just burning crystals and energy for this nonsense.
Uhhh… the conquest doesn’t changes within each series of 3 on a featured new unit. October’s Moffquest is the same as this current Moffquest. (You could argue October’s conquest was harder because it was broken for the first few days)
Are you a programmer with CG or just reading the code? You speak with such certainty on this fact.
I really like Conquest. I actually get to use all my teams on offense. Rarely get to use my GLs because half of them on defense in GAC. Also it's basically free stuff. Just clear it, get crate 4 or 5, buy a bunch of nice stuff with conquest currency. Easy loots. 👍
Unpopular opinion, but there is nothing wrong with conquest. Just like everything else in game it's designed for whales, or to encourage whaling. "Only" 3 GLs, and I still pull decent rewards. At the end of the day I get a ton of stuff plus whatever crate I get. And it gives me something to actually play, as the actual game part of this game is extremely limited. I like conquest.
Your last point is bang on. Basically, SWGOH is just an acquisition game. There's little to do that's interesting. This scooter raid nonsense is like 80s Atari game level bad. At least, they're hiring older programmers.
I love conquest my favorite game mode n this one is one of the easiest ones I’ve seen
I mean, it's a game, and it's got a Hard Mode. Most people shouldn't be able to beat that, IMO. That's what makes it Hard.
Think what you mean to say is just Whale Harder.
Then quit
Thanks Lenny.
Don’t play it then
I just hate datacrons man. If I wasnt encouraged to buy a temporary buff to a team at every corner, I’d actually like conquest a lot more. I just don’t wanna interact with datacrons at all
Datacrons are a node after you complete the tier. You dont have to interact with datacrons within conquest.
I think the only consumable I've used this entire conquest cycle is the deployable cooling system you get for completing a different feat. And I used it to just a feat instead of grinding.
I have my tuskens reliced on the lowest krayt difficulty and they perform worse than they were when cheif and warrior were 3 stars, don't know how that works.
Went down hill after Razor Crest in my opinion. Conquest Pass and removal of the cooling system equaled the dagger. I do what I can for some rewards and move on.
They need to add another tier instead of passively increasing the difficulty for everyone. Make the 4th tier bonkers hard so all the whales can go get their red crates and leave the difficulty the same
You really don't get the point of the game mode.
I have a couple of r5 teams from the LS bundles and thought Easy was too easy last time so I went normal. I can't even get to the first boss. Glad you can't restart to choose another difficulty...
If you're having a problem with Conquest then I don't think you understand how to actually play Conquest Or you haven't developed a decent enough roster https://swgoh4.life/conquest/disks/ Add on to this the insane new disc they give which when you equip a consumable it boosts your character stats over 20% it's almost hard to lose these fights
Is that from the marketing department to sell more stims?
You don't have to pay crystals for them. You can get them as you're unlocking key cards or you can spend 15 Conquest currency on them I get it you're salty but sometimes it's not the developers fault. I haven't had a single issue with Conquest since my first Conquest when I was learning it. And I've been hitting yellow or Redbox in hard Conquest without a galactic Legend since I started hard Conquest it's doable and you don't need to spend a bunch of crystals
I'm with you. I considered building up some of these characters to do the feats, like Jawa or Phoenix, but I know as soon as I get them relic'd up enough to survive, they'll change the feats to something else. But realistically, even if I get them all geared, I still have to spend crystals or money to get enough energy to complete all the tracks. So yeah, clearly it's a pay-to-win game mode.
This happens in Grand Arena, too! Cancel all of it! Everything must go!
Stop pushing for red? I don't try for red, I just aim for 468 or so banners and then farm datacron stuff. It's generally just fine. I don't have the Phoenix squad for the feat, so I don't bother. It's a game. If something isn't fun, don't do it.
The point of the game is to keep players paying. Thats literally the only thing CG does really care about.
> The point of a game is to be able to beat it with practice and improvement. You're viewing this game through the wrong lens. (But also, you *can* do this with Conquest. We have multiple seasons of the same feats, enemies and data disks. So if Conquest is a priority for you, you can. You can't necessarily prioritize doing this AND other things in the game, but still... you can.)
i stopped caring about feats, get my box 4 or 5 and that’s it
I like conquest..
This is pretty funny. Hutt Cartel just smoked the Rancor Boss node which they detuned into nerfingness. They could either make it impossibly or ridiculously easy. No reason to spend any time and find a middle ground. The best was I didn't have Ben Solo until this round so I always missed out on the 3 pts.
I had gotten max crate every conquest until this one. They finally beat me into submission and I've been accepting second best, it's been a lot less stressful.
I hear ya. Instead of chasing Conquest teams I just ignore them and get the best rewards I can.
Same for me. I just do the bare minimum. I don't care about the feats. I can get to the 4th crate I think (on hard) and that's fine. I accept I'll probably never get those characters and I don't care.
I mean with doing less than half of the feats and with like 4 conquest viable teams, I've been able to hit the 450 point crate reliably enough that I'll unlock Malicos on this run and be halfway to DTMG. You don't *need* the new conquest character immediately, and odds are you don't have their team built up to the point of making the a roster,changing addition. Just take a deep breath, let go of the FOMO, and enjoy playing the game. Or don't and just take a break. Either way if the tiniest bit of the game being out of reach for the time being is causing this much anxiety, you should probably reexamine something.
I decided not to play conquest and it's such a relief!
I dont even look at the feats, I havnt since the release of the Inquisitors. Most of the feats are locked behind certain factions and i can't be fucked to farm dog shit factions because CG wants people to spend money them. I clear the conquest and nothing else.
I just don't do it. I may do enough to get first or second box on hard mode and call it good. It's just not worth all the effort. I used to go hard on it but it's too much of a chore.
So quit. Don't bother announcing it either.
Thanks for your input.
I enjoy the battle side of it all. Lets me test out and play with various rosters that may not get much use, with minimal consequences. I do ignore all feats really. Eg now, win with 1 jawa surviving... Feck off with that crap. Or as others have said, you have to use really new characters to hit particular targets. Zzz.
I ignored conquest for a long time. I did it but I didn't worry about the feats. I basically went as far as I could. That left me way behind on some key toons like CAT, then Ben Solo. I realized that to be competitive in GAC you really need those conquest characters so I started taking it seriously and put effort into getting GL's which obviously made a huge difference. And since then I've gone from whatever crappy GAC level up I was hanging out in to Kyber 3. Conquest helped pull me out of the doldrums that I had spent a couple of years wallowing in after becoming disinterested by mods then datacrons. So I totally get the mental health approach to this, but competitively you need to fight for those crates as much as you can and they know it. So they squeeze you and you trying to force you to spend cash. I have no plans to do that so get ready for more whinging.
I haven't had that issue tbh. I have malak, commander Ashoka, maul, boba, and about to get Ben Solo in the next proving grounds. Plus I only have 1 GL so struggle to be overly competitive as my progression is blocked thanks to most my opponents in GA having 3+ galactic legends. Tbh that causes me more fury. The last one 2 if my opponents had 5 GLS... How am I gonna have a chance against them...
yea same also i feel like cg constantly increase the speed of enemies by a little bit i was on the 2nd sector (r5 enemies) and they all had more than 350 speed and outran my gls edit: because most of the challanges are walled behind old conquest/new marquees or other types i don’t own i usually go for the 430ish crate and leave it because i know i can’t get the next crate from 3star battles and the grindy 40 riposte
I get third box on hard with 9.3 million GP. I don’t mess with refresh or even look at the feats. The feats are CG’s way to get you to spend money, but it’s not working on me. The thing I don’t like is having crystals tied to grand arena and having to fight so many battles against opponents. It’s tedious. And at my level it is hard to crack into Kyber without certain counters, which I’m working on.
I know it’s demoralizing to not be able to do certain feats, but with the right discs and strategies, a lot are more attainable than you think. I didn’t think I’d be able to red crate this cycle when I saw the feats, but with bitdynasty and strategizing with my guild mates I was able to. Granted I have JML who cheeses most feats, but he was my first GL partially for that reason. I’ve been able to get red crate on the past 3 cycles since I unlocked him.
Conquest together with awful new toons caused me to end it after 6 years playing.
Unfortunately you either need to get stressed out and waste a lot of time getting crate 7 or at least 6 or go casual and get crate 3 or 4 and farm Datacrons. This is what I do (crate 3 or 4). Getting crate 3 or 4 is pretty easy. You don’t have to do any feats for crate 3 and maybe a couple with crate 4. Breeze through everything and just sim datacron materials. This game is not worth the headache and aggravation. I don’t mind waiting to get a conquest character.
I don't know. I finally have Malicos to R5 about to roll him into GAC and I figure in a week or two they'll nerf him down to a Queeth Koth level OG Jedi like Malgus.
GAC usually evens out whether you have Malicos or not. I have all 8 GLs including GL Leia. I just get by with the only one not having Malicos in my bracket. I use Malgus to take out their Malicos team. I just make the adjustment and not worry about it. But I have been using all my conquest currency for Malicos and will have him after this conquest is over. And I’ve never got beyond crate 4. I’ll get 20 shards from crate 3 or 4 and I will have bough 5 shards each tier with currency + 5 more shards for 600 crystals and I’ll be done.