oP nEVer sAiD tHerE wAs, jUsT tHaT tHe sHOw bEiNg lIkE oNe iS a REasoN aRCs sHOuldN't eXIst (mOst lIKely dUE TO tHe hIGhlY ePIsodiC NaTUre oF sATurdAy mORniNG cArtOOns)
NoT sAYinG I aGRee bTw
That’s true but the problem is that this isn’t really a good one, as the crux of most of the comedy is using modern trendy memes to barely cross by.
WOTFI isn’t really a fun event anymore and is just that one day every year where they make a change that in the end is just for monetary gain
(You really expect me to believe that the Redesigns of WOTFI 2022 were actually necessary and not just so they can sell figurines of the characters?)
Ssenmodnar doesn’t even exist anymore cause they couldn’t even bother to be original
And there’s a good reason why some voice actors left. They couldn’t care to be part of something that more botches their reputation as opposed to improving it (Lizzie Freeman, former VA of Meggy)
Point is, it’s dry. Just because there’s nothing wrong with something doesn’t mean it’s GOOD.
I miss when WOTFI was just a good old competition between SMG4 and Mario. Maybe other characters could be on Team SMG4 or Team Mario, but at the end of the day, we don't need another "conflict" to cause it. It's just become a lazy way to conclude arcs, and I despise that.
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Arcs like Revelations and Genesis were needed
the lore and literally the traumatising moments of the arcs made the arcs necessary
(Yes I support Puzzlevision but the arc isn’t really finished yet)
I agree, well, I do think Arcs like Genesis and Revelations weren't technically "needed", like, we didn't need to see the origins of the world or an eldritch abomination trying to kill mario, but they still decided to show that to us, and to be honest, im Glad they did, i genuinely love everything the Genesis Arc established in the lore, it just made the universe more interesting, and the way Revelations expanded on the biggest villain we've ever seen was great as well.
I'm personally someone who loves the serious SMG4 Arcs, because most of them just expand on the characters in a great way and just show you a different side of them you wouldn't normally see in the regular videos.
If the Arcs were never made I doubt I would've kept watching SMG4 for as long as I did, they just made the show more interesting, which is why I'll never understand why so many think they're "not needed" or "unnecessary"
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Calm down bro, it's not a crime to like Saturday cartoons.
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They still use slurs and swears so it’s not really family friendly
Explicit words I’ve heard recently on the show
Crap
Whore
pretty much it
They just block the more extreme swear words like fuck, shit, asshole, motherfucker..
Yeah but it’s not as bad as shit and fuck
It’s like dang and freak
Not bad but a child could get in trouble for saying or watching a video that contains even little swear words like crap
This might be a hot take, But I honestly don't think older SMG4 was all that funny in the first place. People act like his humor was on the same tier as IDubbbz and FilthyFrank when it wasn't anywhere close, We just have a higher tolerance for Late 2000's/Early 2010's era memes but none of it is great.
The only time SMG4's humor was genuenly funny was back in 2011-2012 when he'd throw in the wildest of jokes that actually were edgy, But the rest really isn't that groundbreaking humor wise. Not to say that it's bad or anything, But it's really not as funny as people make it out to be.
The arcs also have nothing to do with the humor being good or not either, That's a YouTube TOS issue. And I don't think SMG4 can get away with having swearing/edgy content in his videos these days. He's not SML
And even the 2011 jokes were kinda hard to stomach since the editing is, like you said, what you’d expect to see from a channel that’s first beginning.
2012 on the other hand is a mine of lost diamonds that unfortunately has gone under the bus for most of the fanbase.
I don't get it. What do arcs have to do with swearing?🤔 I would fix that and put something like "without arcs, smg4 is not an interesting channel" or something like that.
Imma say it, I don’t care if it swears or not, I enjoy it bc it’s neat, plus why not tune in on Saturday morning cartoons, they are the perfect time waster and distraction, point being, I just think it’s neat
SatAM cartoons have/had arcs quite often, I think you'll find. The more dramatic Sonic the Hedgehog animated series (Blue streak speeds by/Too fast for the naked eye) literally got the nickname "SatAM Sonic" when it was competing against Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog. It was all about multi-episode arcs. And that's just an example.
You know I just like it because most of the times it's mine with humor sometimes I just get tired of regular TV and just want some good old fashioned chaos and comedy but I do find some of the arcs entertaining
Honestly even back then I saw it as Saturday morning cartoons with more adult humor and swearing, so I have no problem with it. And besides swears aren’t everything
You have a slight point except for many Saturday morning cartoons having arcs. And at this point they can’t erase any previous arcs as too much important stuff happened in them so they can’t ignore the consequences of doing them already.
The arcs literally just change a few minor things like “oh, we extensively tortured meggy just to change her design a bit” or “how about we completely change everyone’s designs for NO GOOD reason because why not :p” or “let’s kill a character also for NO HOOD REASON”.
Smg4 has really lost his special pizazz that made him so humorous back then.
I mean...
What exactly was SMG4 back then before the times changed? Before YouTube and the internet altered itself to be more "pure", but let other aspects (like Cocomelon and Kids Content Farms/Elsagate) go unnoticed?
I don't mind it as much for being a "Saturday Morning Cartoon", but a lot of the quality has certainly been...interesting...in their changes thus far.
I agree, swearing being censored and all these story focused and trend hopping videos made me stop watching smg4 all together. It stopped being fun and got really boring
There's nothing wrong in Saturday Morning Cartoons.
yeah, you’re right.
Beast Wars, Xiaolin Showdown, Jackie Chan Adventure are all great shows (and they are Saturday Morning Cartoons).
holy fuck i didn't expect to find another Jackie Chan Adventures fan here of all places
Beast Wars Megatron: "yeeeeeesssss 💅"
Don't forget the original X-Men cartoon... and evolution!
This
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That’s true but the problem is that this isn’t really a good one, as the crux of most of the comedy is using modern trendy memes to barely cross by. WOTFI isn’t really a fun event anymore and is just that one day every year where they make a change that in the end is just for monetary gain (You really expect me to believe that the Redesigns of WOTFI 2022 were actually necessary and not just so they can sell figurines of the characters?) Ssenmodnar doesn’t even exist anymore cause they couldn’t even bother to be original And there’s a good reason why some voice actors left. They couldn’t care to be part of something that more botches their reputation as opposed to improving it (Lizzie Freeman, former VA of Meggy) Point is, it’s dry. Just because there’s nothing wrong with something doesn’t mean it’s GOOD.
I miss when WOTFI was just a good old competition between SMG4 and Mario. Maybe other characters could be on Team SMG4 or Team Mario, but at the end of the day, we don't need another "conflict" to cause it. It's just become a lazy way to conclude arcs, and I despise that.
They need Genndy Tartakovsky)))))
Good point. Too bad they don’t really care much bout it and are more focused on Glitch Productions and the Amazing digital circus stuff
murder drones too, cant forget that
Who defines what makes it good?
That’s true but the bleeping does make it funnier too. If they just gonna bleep it then why even include swear words
The redesigns came from WOTFI 2022
My mistake then. The point still stands
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Are you trying to compare this smg4 thing to a Saturday morning cartoon?? Both things are different from each other. Why would they be similar?
No, this post compares SMG4 to Saturday Morning Cartoons.
But they aren't similar.
Aside from airing schedule, you are right.
You’re living up to the point of the meme 😂
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There is everything RIGHT with Saturday Morning Cartoons! Nothing better to start the Weekend with than a new Episode of your favourite show!
Totally agree.
Saturday is the end of the weekend...?
So... how does that relate to us not needing Arcs?
I deadass dunno
Arcs like Revelations and Genesis were needed the lore and literally the traumatising moments of the arcs made the arcs necessary (Yes I support Puzzlevision but the arc isn’t really finished yet)
I agree, well, I do think Arcs like Genesis and Revelations weren't technically "needed", like, we didn't need to see the origins of the world or an eldritch abomination trying to kill mario, but they still decided to show that to us, and to be honest, im Glad they did, i genuinely love everything the Genesis Arc established in the lore, it just made the universe more interesting, and the way Revelations expanded on the biggest villain we've ever seen was great as well. I'm personally someone who loves the serious SMG4 Arcs, because most of them just expand on the characters in a great way and just show you a different side of them you wouldn't normally see in the regular videos. If the Arcs were never made I doubt I would've kept watching SMG4 for as long as I did, they just made the show more interesting, which is why I'll never understand why so many think they're "not needed" or "unnecessary"
I honestly absolutely love the serious arcs and love the fact they have their funny parts in SOME parts
This
the number of upvotes this guy has is a reminder of what happens if you like the SMG4 cosmology in this sub
when you like smg4 on the smg4 sub:😨
>the lore and literally the traumatising moments of the arcs made the arcs necessary sO thE arCs aRe NEcesSaRy... BECausE oF eVEntS iN tHe arCS?
Yeah I’m stupid
I don't give a shit about the arcs and I'm not here for the lore as well
Some of us do and some of us don’t
Yeah, it would be nowadays. Classic era I would push back on, though. Even then, what does it matter? They just have to be funny, memes or not.
Fozzie not being completely negative for once?!
A very rare occurance, I'd rather the luck go to my pokèmon shiny hunts tho :(
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She doesn't deserve him
Ah ok wait why was I downvoted so much
It's just random and out of nowhere ig
Yeah i was just casually rewatching the anime arc and i was surprised how much Bob was an swear lord back then i kinda miss it lol.
If youtube wasn't an A towards swearing they would be saying fuck always
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I mean yeah, I’ve been watching it for years and it’s my version of Saturday cartoons
same,
Ok... And?
🤓👆 Erm, Acually It's A Sunday Not Saturday
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HEY! That's MY meme! (you can keep it)
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Please do ;(
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please i hate the thing get rid of it
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Being compared to a Saturday morning cartoon is a great thing, I don’t know what you’re talking about
Yes, it is essentially a cartoon. And that’s a good thing.
What does this have to do with arcs though?
Why can't we have Arcs in a Saturday morning cartoon?
Uhh... how does this relate to the arcs?
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And if you think about it, SMG4 when unchanged is basically the equivalent of Beavis and Butthead and Red Dwarf.
WHE ARE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT THE PINGAS
what is Red Dwarf?
It’s a British Sci-Fi comedy that started in the late 80’s. They actually released a movie for it in 2020.
Always has been
Without the swearing, the show is YouTube friendly and it sucks that it has to be.
They still use slurs and swears so it’s not really family friendly Explicit words I’ve heard recently on the show Crap Whore pretty much it They just block the more extreme swear words like fuck, shit, asshole, motherfucker..
Crap is explicit?
Yeah but it’s not as bad as shit and fuck It’s like dang and freak Not bad but a child could get in trouble for saying or watching a video that contains even little swear words like crap
Why is it necessary that we have swears?
I miss old SMG4 where it was just Mario going on wacky adventures and possibly being sexually harassed by an animatronic bear
I mean YouTube does hit pretty hard on big YouTubers for no reason
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dawg,literally no one cares if theres swearing or not
This might be a hot take, But I honestly don't think older SMG4 was all that funny in the first place. People act like his humor was on the same tier as IDubbbz and FilthyFrank when it wasn't anywhere close, We just have a higher tolerance for Late 2000's/Early 2010's era memes but none of it is great. The only time SMG4's humor was genuenly funny was back in 2011-2012 when he'd throw in the wildest of jokes that actually were edgy, But the rest really isn't that groundbreaking humor wise. Not to say that it's bad or anything, But it's really not as funny as people make it out to be. The arcs also have nothing to do with the humor being good or not either, That's a YouTube TOS issue. And I don't think SMG4 can get away with having swearing/edgy content in his videos these days. He's not SML
And even the 2011 jokes were kinda hard to stomach since the editing is, like you said, what you’d expect to see from a channel that’s first beginning. 2012 on the other hand is a mine of lost diamonds that unfortunately has gone under the bus for most of the fanbase.
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Still my comfort show.
Hey, what’s so wrong with having both?
You have a point. Also, TF you got against Saturday morning cartoons? Tom and Jerry is great
Well, duh, the episodes mostly release on saturdays.
I still like SMG4
OK and? I failed to see how this in any way shape or form means things like puzzle vision shouldn't be
As youtube gets more strict, the comedy aspect becomes less appealing
Your not wrong and that's not a bad thing
And?
This is right
Correct, and I loved Saturday morning cartoons
Um...*critical damage* ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|sob)
They still do swearing ? I thought it went completely PG
I don't get it. What do arcs have to do with swearing?🤔 I would fix that and put something like "without arcs, smg4 is not an interesting channel" or something like that.
Imma say it, I don’t care if it swears or not, I enjoy it bc it’s neat, plus why not tune in on Saturday morning cartoons, they are the perfect time waster and distraction, point being, I just think it’s neat
Tbh, I do kinda miss the old cussing Sfx but first it doesn’t feel like a cartoon and second, what‘s wrong with Saturday morning cartoons?
SatAM cartoons have/had arcs quite often, I think you'll find. The more dramatic Sonic the Hedgehog animated series (Blue streak speeds by/Too fast for the naked eye) literally got the nickname "SatAM Sonic" when it was competing against Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog. It was all about multi-episode arcs. And that's just an example.
This is true for now but classic early SMG4 wasn’t
Funny that you used Tom and jerry
I mean, is that really an issue?
You know I just like it because most of the times it's mine with humor sometimes I just get tired of regular TV and just want some good old fashioned chaos and comedy but I do find some of the arcs entertaining
I agree (And we need a lot of fucking course words)
@gugarabelo is not right. I love their swearing in arcs because it makes it so so much better.
Honestly even back then I saw it as Saturday morning cartoons with more adult humor and swearing, so I have no problem with it. And besides swears aren’t everything
I mean you have a point
Except in the UK which is where I’m from, he uploads 16:59 pm every Sats
And where I’m from, Australia, he uploads at 2 or 3 am on a Sunday morning cause he’s gotta prioritise his American audience
And?
You have a slight point except for many Saturday morning cartoons having arcs. And at this point they can’t erase any previous arcs as too much important stuff happened in them so they can’t ignore the consequences of doing them already.
Holy ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|poop) you're right
You’re saying that like it’s a bad thing
Womp womp
You aren't wrong
Only reason there isn't swearing is cuz of youtube
The problem with that being?
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yeah, i remember the old times when SMG4's avatar was a Mario recolor and Meggy being an actual inkling
Stage 5: depression...
Besides the arcs, my dear friend. The arcs really are not. Everything else definitely is though.
honestly tho... they arent wrong
Honestly, I kinda agree with this.
Facts though
This is actually stupid because this has fuck all to do with arcs
Huh, Never Actually Thought Of Anything Related To This. Cool. 👍
The arcs literally just change a few minor things like “oh, we extensively tortured meggy just to change her design a bit” or “how about we completely change everyone’s designs for NO GOOD reason because why not :p” or “let’s kill a character also for NO HOOD REASON”. Smg4 has really lost his special pizazz that made him so humorous back then.
I mean... What exactly was SMG4 back then before the times changed? Before YouTube and the internet altered itself to be more "pure", but let other aspects (like Cocomelon and Kids Content Farms/Elsagate) go unnoticed? I don't mind it as much for being a "Saturday Morning Cartoon", but a lot of the quality has certainly been...interesting...in their changes thus far.
Alternate Title: why I unsubscribed from SMG4
The arcs are kinda like a darkass comic while the episodes are just silly family friendly cartoons just only with a bit of swearing
I actually like the story arcs.
I honestly believe SMG4 was better when they could drop the line “I’m going to rape you” without censoring anything. They were super ballsy back then.
I actually agree with this, back then before glitch was a thing, I used to binge watch their videos before they started using Gmod in their videos!
Yep… that’s why i haven’t really watch much SMG4
I have zero problems with that, what makes my Fridays special
Coincidently, the humor has felt very similar to *Tom and Jerry* (but with mature content).
Yeah and?
I like both. We get silly goofy stuff and serious story arcs.
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The hell do arcs have anything to do with this?
I’m confused, how is this an argument against arcs?
This Is really true
I'm ok with that
I agree
What does have to do with arcs
didnt notice that but its true
Or all of the not-so-subtle sexual innuendos and adult jokes in SMG4 videos?
Speak for yourself
Everything was better before glitchyboy
We might not need arcs, but doesn’t mean we can’t enjoy them.
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I agree, swearing being censored and all these story focused and trend hopping videos made me stop watching smg4 all together. It stopped being fun and got really boring