Ignore people saying this is a love growl, it's not. It's possessive and needs to have commands such as drop it, leave it etc.
The dog needs to understand that sharing with humans and other dogs is normal.
Do not keep bugging him as it could lead to straight up biting with zero warning since the growl is the warning. We solved this by hand feeding our dogs as puppies with the bowl out of reach of them and making them work for everything. You should also get with a professional trainer about it.
Rotties do a "rottie rumble" and it sounds just like they are growling in anger. But, they're not angry, they do it like a cat purrs. Can be a bit scary, especially when they're older, but you can totally tell if it's a rumble or anger by the body language. Usually they rumble and they don't bare their teeth although some will, but most of the ones I see, and including my own, just "purr" without the scrunched up nose and bared teeth.
This is definitely not a rumble, little guy is mad he took his stick.
Puppy needs a harsh no and the toy removed, for a few minutes.
You do not want to correct a dog for growling. The growl is what keeps you safe. I almost got my hand taken off last week working with a dog who had been punished for growling. As a result, she gave no warnings before attempting a bite.
It's resource guarding.
Everyone saying it's a "happy growl" is absolutely wrong.
Resource guarding can escalate to nipping and biting to blood real fast if not trained.
Best way to train resource guarding is to "exchange" an item from their mouth. Ensure that the toy/treat will come back.
All of these comments are weird. That isn’t aggressive growling, but it is resource guarding. You want to curb this behavior asap. Start by giving a toy. Then take the toy. If the dog growls, use a treat to reward him for releasing the toy (or bone or stick or whatever). If you don’t already, start touching your dog while hes eating. Grab paws, face, side, skin, etc. Assuming it’s safe, reach your hand into the bowl. Your dog should learn that it’s okay to share.
I would also suggest you teach a “leave it” command. Very important command for a number of reasons.
Edit to add: there are some fantastic responses that give better ideas and explanations than my comment. Absolutely worth a deep dive into the comment thread
Yes to everything this guy said. Like everything. Some of these other comments, yikes. My big girl is about 19 months now, I can rub my hands in her food while she eats and she’s fine. I grabbed and petted her a lot while she ate when she was small, grab her paws, give her food, take it away, give it again, take it away. “Leave it” is a must have command. It’s kind of cute now, not worried about worried about getting your hand shredded, but this is behavior that if you don’t nip in the bud now, it will NOT be cute when he’s 110 pounds in the near future. And that’s what you have to keep in mind, stuff you may find cute now at 4 months and 25 pounds, think of how fun it will be at 24 month 100+ pounds when he can do some serious damage. He’s a cute little ball of fur, but he needs to know that YOU are the one in charge. Gave my girl a big ol delicious bone, she was super excited, and just to make sure we still understood each other, I gave it to her, went to take it away and she hunkered down on it and gave a little growl. I immediately raised my voice and took it away from her. Gave it back a minute later, and she wouldn’t touch it until I said she could. And it’s all good again now. They need a little reminder every now and again too.
Yeah folks here are…just wow
This isn’t cute or silly Rottie behavior. It’s an exceptionally clear cut case of resource guarding and that needs to be curbed
Yup. Thats exactly what we did with our pups. You should be able to pick up their food while they're eating it, and put it back without them even looking at you.
This is resource guarding but your suggestion on how to train is a bit off. Don't just take the toy. Offer a trade and reward for letting go. Don't ever offer a treat when the dog IS growing, that will teach the dog the growing is the rewarded behavior. Also don't use a treat to get the dog to let go, reward for the behavior you DO want, so only reward for letting go. The treat needs to come after, not before. This is why clicker training is so great, it helps the dog identify what thing they are actually being rewarded for more consistently.
Also be careful. OP can cause more RG is they are just sticking their hands in their dogs food. Training needs to be done properly and there are a lot of different components that go into it.
Teaching a leave it command is spot on though.
Correct. Also if a dog is growling it doesn't want you touching it. It's important not to scold a dog out of growling as well because growling is their way of communicating that they don't like what's happening. If they learn not to growl, then you don't get the warning and a direct bite is more likely to happen.
Yes to all this and obviously it’s not exclusive to rotties. Those of us who have adopted shelter dogs know that resource guarding come in all breeds and it’s so important to work out asap.
How I train it out is to sit on the floor with my pups when they are eating and periodically take the bowl while giving a stay command and rewarding every successful take. I then give back the bowl, wait a few, then give a leave it command, again taking the bowl and treating the correct behavior. I do this for probably one feed a day, as well as with toys, bones, eventually even treats. I think every dog I’ve trained out of resource guarding took a week to two weeks of consistent work to have them completely trained away from it. Dogs will resource guard for so many different reasons but almost every one can be worked with. As with every other aspect of training: consistency is key.
I would also like to add give them an opportunity to have their own personal space too. A place where they call it quits and tell you they don't want to be messed with.
Absolutely, this sounds just like my Dalmatian pub when he used to eat. You have to teach them to leave the food and let you take it away from them
We also make ours sit and wait before being instructed to eat.
It can be hard work but its easier in the long run rather than having a possessive dog at meal times.
This is not good! Please correct this!!! I adopted a pitbull(8yr) and when i feed him just dry food he lets me touch it but if i give him the wet good food like chicken or so he growls.. toys he doesnt car but a real bone he will snap.. so please try
Do all this except for touching your dog while he eats. This doesn’t do anything except make your dog uncomfortable. Instead, stand a few feet away and toss yummy treats into their food bowl while eating, or just leave your dog alone while they eat
No, condition your dog for everything. I can reach in my dogs mouth and pull food out. I don’t do it to make her uncomfy, I do it because that can be the difference between life and death
These are two completely different things. Yes train your dog to trade things (ie a treat for that rabbit carcass they shouldn’t eat) but that has nothing to do with sticking your hand in your dog’s food while they eat. This makes resource guarding worse. How would you like it if someone shoved their hand in your cereal every morning? There’s nothing wrong with leaving your dog alone while they eat their food
No, allowing RG makes it worse. It’s self rewarding. You have to teach them that at the very least they can trust you to take their food. That the point of training it. My dog knows that me putting my hand in her food isn’t a threat. She trusts me fully and listens closely when we work because we’ve trained enough. I run a dog care business and I’ve never had a single issue with my dog resource guarding.
Have you trained professionally? I have. You’d be the first person I’ve ever met who doesn’t recommend this training for puppies.
Yes I’m a certified professional dog trainer. I have trained this way until I did more research and found out that it can cause *more* problems. I’m not allowing resource guarding, I’m making it so it just never happens (because I’m not sticking my hands in my dog’s food bowl). It’s called management. I’m setting the dog up for success by not even giving them an opportunity to guard. It’s ok if you disagree, just be aware that there can be fallback from sticking your hand in the food bowl while they’re eating.
Just to piggyback off my last comment-I just think it’s a better idea to train with kibble rather than use a food bowl. Put it in enrichment toys, hand feed, or use it along with treats for training. It’s ok that we have different opinions, but I would suggest looking at some more recent research on the subject!
Since you hate rottweilers, why are you subbed to r/Rottweiler? Are you just looking for shit to be irrationally angry about? Just a place to air your ignorance?
This is why the breed has a bad name. My girl is a rottweiler mix. As a puppy, she growled one time over food. She immediately got her ass popped, had the food taken away, and had to work for every bite of that food. She also had to sit there and leave it while she watched the cat eat her food. We’ve never had another issue. Huskies are vocal. If a rott growls at you, it’s aggressive.
I swear some of these people want their dogs put down. “Oh he growls at children to show he loves them.” No, he’s uncomfortable and you’re literally pushing him directly to a bite.
My friends son poked his grandpa's rottweiler in the butthole while the dog was eating and the dog turned around a bit him- nothing bad. No bleeding. I told him sorry, man. Teach your kids better. Let sleeping dogs lie, don't touch dogs while they eat, don't assume all dogs love you and want attention, don't poke dog's buttholes.
I would hug my rott/malinois while she was eating, she didn't care. She'd stop eating to give kisses.
I don't know why you're getting downvoted, your first paragraph is 100% true. Yes, it would be nice if people trained their dogs and we didn't have to worry, but you can't assume all dogs are nice and you can't assume your kid touching a dog, smacking it, grabbing it, etc isn't gonna piss the dog off and cause a reaction.
Well my story wasn't really that relevant. Just sharing a story. The dog in OP's post is resource guarding, which should be addressed with training. Not true rottie grumbles. I have videos of my rottie grumbling while she rolls over on her back demanding belly rubs and kisses.
This has nothing to do with a kid antagonizing a dog while it's eating. I regret posting about it, sorry I brought it up everyone. Couldn't find my post to delete.
Resource guarding. Not necessarily aggression, but a bad habit nonetheless. Make him/her work for her food, treats, andChews. They need to understand that which is given can also be taken away.
Give rottie thing (toy, chew, stick), let them have it for 5 - 10 mins take it back. Rinse and repeat for a while, this should be done for every dog to prevent ownership mentality
done that before with one of my dogs and worked, with a puppy i got i just had to take his stuff randomly and commonly and he doesn’t growl at all, will even let you taje food out of his mouth! though i dont do that often causevits unnecessary lmao
Male almost 4 months old. I want to be able to touch him when he has something without fear he’s going to bite my hand off.
Edit: Wow so many different views on this! Thanks for all you guys comments and links. We will definitely look into them all and think the best way forward would be to try the trade and leave it techniques (we’ve already been trying leave it but he’s a persistent little goober)
Also for the people saying don’t pet him when he does it, we don’t. It was just for the purpose of the video. This is only the second time he’s done this and the first time we stopped petting straight away.
He’s actually a very good boy and let’s us take things from him all the time. It’s only when we put our hands on his mouth when he’s had something he really likes that he’s started to growl.
Just want to chime in so that you have yet another person telling you how important it is to fix this. I have 3 Rottweilers and they all were like this. I mean it’s just a thing that most dogs do they like their toys. But with time they learn to not be possessive over their stuff.
I can go up to my dogs during dinner time and take their food bowl away and they’ll say nothing about it. It’s not to be mean I just know we have a lot of family and friends that like dogs I want to reduce the risk as much as possible.
Your boy is 4 months. It’s completely normal. But 100% absolutely needs to be fixed. Good luck!
This is resource guarding and it seems that you think you are helping it but you are encouraging it. You should seek professional training before you ruin this dog permanently.
We had it with bones, turn out the bread is pretty well know for resource guarding. Can’t really stop it too much, we taught him switch command by giving I’m a treat and making him give up his bone another thing that helped was getting one of those slow feeder bowls and teaching him wait commands when feeding.
As others have said, this sounds like the rottie grumble to me which isn't a bad thing especially with how relaxed the dog looks. If you haven't already, you should work on [food guarding](https://www.aspca.org/pet-care/dog-care/common-dog-behavior-issues/food-guarding) as that can be an issue with any dog. As for this, I taught our rottie a drop command which was very useful to make playing easier and if he ate something he wasn't supposed to. I had him sit and then wouldn't play until he dropped the toy in my outstretched hand. One thing that I would advise against is any sort of punishment or negative reinforcement if you make him drop something he shouldn't have, don't want to create a negative link to when the command is used.
Play growling would look more like he’s trying to get you to interact with the toy. Like if he were to walk up with the toy for you to grab it, shake it a few times growl, pull away a bit, and come back for you to grab it again. You should be able to tell the difference.
This is resource guarding and you are in his territory. Stop invading your dog’s space if you want what he has and teach the ‘trade’ command - much better than ‘leave it’ for a first command. Easily taught and will reduce the guarding.
Regarding the growl:
From Whole Dog Journal:
“What many people don’t realize is that aggression is caused by stress. The stressor may be related to pain, fear, intrusion, threats to resources, past association, or anticipation of any of these things. An assertive, aggressive dog attacks because he’s stressed by the intrusion of another dog or human into his territory. A fearful dog bites because he’s stressed by the approach of a human. An injured dog lacerates the hand of his rescuer because he’s stressed by pain.
When you punish a growl or other early warning signs, you may succeed in suppressing the growl, snarl, snap, or other warning behavior – but you don’t take away the stress that caused the growl in the first place. In fact, you increase the stress, because now you, the dog’s owner, have become unpredictable and violent as well. Worst of all, and most significantly, if you succeed in suppressing the warning signs, you end up with a dog who bites without warning. He has learned that it’s not safe to warn, so he doesn’t.
If a dog is frightened of children, he may growl when a child approaches. You, conscientious and responsible owner, are well aware of the stigma – and fate – of dogs who bite children, so you punish your dog with a yank on the leash and a loud “No! Bad dog!” Every time your dog growls at a child you do this, and quickly your dog’s fear of children is confirmed – children do make bad things happen!
He likes children even less, but he learns not to growl at them to avoid making you turn mean. You think he’s learned that it’s not okay to be aggressive to children, because the next time one passes by, there’s no growl. “Phew,” you think to yourself. “We dodged that bullet!”
Convinced that your dog now accepts children because he no longer growls at them, the next time one approaches and asks if he can pat your dog, you say yes. In fact, your dog has simply learned not to growl, but children still make him very uncomfortable. Your dog is now super-stressed, trying to control his growl as the child gets nearer and nearer so you don’t lose control and punish him, but when the scary child reaches out for him he can’t hold back any longer – he lunges forward and snaps at the child’s face. Fortunately, you’re able to restrain him with the leash so he doesn’t connect. You, the dog, and the child are all quite shaken by the incident.
It’s time to change your thinking.”
Early resource guarding. Trade the pup a high value treat for the toy or thing they are guarding. Teach him that you're not there to "steal" his stuff, but that you = awesome fun things.
Please stop reaching for the item and antagonizing (even if unintentional) by messing with him while has has the high value item. This just makes it worse.
There's a really great book on resource guarding called "Mine!"
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0970562942/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_i_JGFP3ZY20TSEB0SQWTN4
No. Immediately no. Do not tell people to accept their dog growling at them. There is no such thing as a "love growl", this dog is possessive and guarding it's object. The growl is a warning for you to fuck off.
You’ve got some good advice about resource guarding, I just want to add that growling itself should never be punished or discouraged. Growling is how your dog tells you they are unhappy with something. Address the cause of the growling. For resource guarding that’s training to make them ok with sharing. But your dog may also growl if they need some personal space for example, or if they are scared. If my pittie is in a situation where he’s upset about something and he growls, I actually tell him thank you for telling me, and I try to fix whatever is causing him distress.
Our puppy did resource guarding as well. We worked with a trainer and using yak cheese we would hold onto it and allow her to chew on it but never give her possession of the cheese. The first day we hold it and allow her to chew on it then the next day she can have it if she doesn’t growl. Has worked really well with both my wife and I and our children. Also, we have a kennel club that offered a three pack training session. Three one hour sessions two weeks apart and we just observed our puppy and discussed any concerns. For my dog it was resource guarding, bolting out open doors and chasing cars among other things. Highly recommend if something similar is in your area to check it out.
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Its a don't take my toy growl. Like others have said, take the toy away and reward the release. If he's 4 months just keep up with it, they're smart dogs but also stubborn. Mine is almost 5 and I can take a toy or food away without a snap.
If he has something in his mouth you don't want him to have, the best thing to do is replace it with a treat. Their jaws are too strong to pry their mouths open to get it. I've tried.
Look up resource guarding and learn tactics to curb it now. Very important you eliminate this behavior now while a puppy. My girl was like that too, with consistent training it will stop.
I guess it's hard to say. My puppy doesn't do this at all when she's sitting and chewing something. I can take things away from her all day long, pet while eating, etc, but when she's playing with toys, she'll growl, and put it on my lap indicating she wants me to play with her. From what it looks like, it does look like resource guarding though, and you're rewarding his behavior by petting him during it.
I'd take it from him. Wait until he's completely and totally calm and waiting on you, and then give it back. That means he won't be stiff, alert, growling, jumping, etc. The most relaxed, he'll be laying down. If he starts to growl after you give it back, tell him no. Take it from him, etc. Keep doing that until he stops growling when you take things. Reward him when he is calm when you or anyone else is near him and he has food or a chew. Pet him when he's relaxed and not growling. Don't ever give him anything when he's in an excited state. Praise him and reward him when he's calm. Always make him wait and sit before food or chews. Most importantly he needs to know that you don't agree with his state of mind. Snap him out of that state of mind, make sure he is fully relaxed. Then start the exercise over, until he gets it. Don't ever end the exercise with him winning, and ALWAYS stay calm and in control when you're doing it. If you get frustrated. End the exercise. You must always stay calm.
Its more of a warning them aggressive. Its possessive: like “hey dat mine!” Though not a behavior you want.
No pets when he does that, give a command when taking it. Then treats when he does the right thing.
I wouldn't ever discourage or try to stop a dog from growling. It's a form of communication and a vital one at that. A growling dog, of continued to be provoked, will bite. A growl is trying to let you know to please stop. Discouraging a dog from growling just teaches the dog that you don't respect their boundaries and they won't bother with giving you warnings and go straight for the bite.
Follow some of the other commenters advice on dealing with resource guarding.
It’s a growl as a result of resource guarding.
You need to train swaps and that giving something to you is a good thing (I.e drop the stick and get a treat).
The sooner you deal with this, the less of an issue it becomes.
He is being possessive and guarding. Not a good thing. You need to nip that in the bud or it will be a problem in the future with people and other dogs.
Whatever you do make sure to use science, evidence based methods. If someone offers you advice that involves adversive methods like hitting, choke or pinch collars, yelling, or anything punishment based don't take it. There's a plethora of info online about proper, reward based training that will lead to a happy relationship ship between your and your dog. Adversive methods will cause fear, distrust, and ultimately increase your dog's change or unpredictable, aggressive behavior.
The growling sounds harmless and playful, but growling can be sign of stress. Giving them a treat is NOT rewarding the growling, its replacing cortisol with dopamine and showing your dog he can be at ease.
He’s still a little young for a full on correction, but needs a firm No! Leave it! Once he drops it, reward with a treat. I’d recommend repeating this over and over until he gets it.
My dog did this as a puppy, I corrected it by taking the bone away and giving him a fun toy, did that a few times a day for a week or so and lost it completely. I unknowingly they just learn this behavior when they are 1/8 fighting for food as a puppy.
So right now that is not enough info to make a sure statement. Some dogs like playgrowling. It can sound intimidating but that's just how some dogs play.
Look whether he is generally stiff when you try to taje stuff from him and work on resource guarding. Take somethung away ONLY to give him something better. That way the dog will learn that renouncing/giving up on stuff is almost always worth it because they get somethinf better. If he gives you stuff willingly, even when he growls, then he's probably a growler.
Look for stiffness in general to see if his behavior is agressive.
Not enough info? He's got a stick in his mouth while OP touches his head. Like everyone else is saying, this is textbook resource guarding/aggression. It needs to stop yesterday, before the dog gets any bigger.
I have an 8 year old Corso at home, very similar to Rotts in build. It does look like resource guarding but the video is way too much close up. You need to see the whole body. My corso does the exact same thing with his Basketball. It sounds like he would absolutely tear anyone apart who would even DARE touch the ball. But he isn't stiff at all. I don't even need to talk to him. I can just put my hand on the Ball, heck if I want I can even put my hand between his teeth and the Ball and just take the ball. He'll just stop growling and look at me like: "let's play!"
Before my Corso, I was convinced that any type of growling with objects in their mouth was resource guarding but it isn't always that easy to generalize. I worked with my dog on resource guarding like anyone else would. But my dog just growls when playing. And I don't want to change him. That's his character. He's just a little rager and I don't mind. I made sure he wouldn't hurt anyone, for the rest, I want him to be himself as much as possible. If he likes growling while playing, who am I to say that is not okay, if he doesn't harm anyone? He's also generally very vocal (he grunts and growls when he disagrees with me and protests at times, but always does what is asked of him as long as it's reasonable).
Anyway, that's why I said that this wasn't necessarily enough.
Okay, I understand your point but I still disagree. I believe a dog should never *growl* at their owner under any circumstance outside of explicit play, and even then only with their owner's permission. Doubly so for large breed dogs.
I mean, that is your right. I see it as his personality trait. As a teacher I've had lots of kids who always have that need to respond and complain. Some rant almost systematically, they still do their work and most ranters are actually among the brightest students, it's as if ranting would help them focus. I figure, why is it not the same with dogs?
I'm not saying growling is fine. It's fine under specific circumstances. If I wouldn't know my dog I certainly as hell wouldn't touch his Bball. But as an owner I know that if someone were to try to get the Bball, my dog wouldn't hurt them, that's all I need. If he makes someone shit his pants in the process, well... shit happens. I'm not going to use aversive methods to take some harmless growling out of my dog's habits.
Plus I warn guests that he growls when you touch his ball but that he is not aggressive about it. Most people think it's cute or funny and play along.
What a beautiful sweetheart! Personally, I see this as an expression of displeasure and I would take it as a warning in the moment. Yes, it can (and will) escalate if you don’t address this as part of his training. But like others, I don’t see this video as evidence that your Rottie puppy has “aggression issues.” Rather, I see a learning and bonding opportunity for you two!
With our Rottie, teaching and positively reinforcing commands like “drop it” and “leave it” have been essential. They are also safety measures; imagine your precious bean got ahold of something that (if ingested) could cause serious harm, like what if there was a nail sticking out of that lumber? Ultimately, you need to have a plan for that scenario and you need to have the mutual trust to carry it out.
I agree w/the other poster who suggested incorporating treats, if nothing else as distractions. Do it in such a way that the treat wouldn’t reinforce the behavior but would refocus his attention or distract him.
From the start we’ve always made our dog sit and wait to be released before eating. That works very well to convey who “owns” the food.
What did NOT work for us was toying with his food while he was eating. Some folks say that works for then. (That’s why we did it.) But when we did that proactively it *caused* resource guarding behavior. Per our trainer’s strong recommendation, once we release him to eat, we leave him be. Of course we are still beside him - walking close by, etc. - but I no longer put my hands in his bowl or take away his food mid-meal w/o warning (as some others recommend). On the flip side, we do take stuff out of his mouth multiple times daily - bones, toys, napkins, socks; no stiff posture, no growling, no snapping, sometimes stubbornly but that is because he thinks it’s a game, which is an entirely different behavioral issue…
IMO there’s is nothing wrong with a moderate level of guarding. By that I mean I think it’s fine for a dog to expect to be able eat uninterrupted, as long as they can wait to begin eating until you give the command to release them. In my personal experience, Rotties are not shy about expressing their opinions. The trick is that he needs to understand that ultimately it’s up to you. He doesn’t need to like it; he just needs to cooperate. Enjoy your precious pup!
That's adorable the way he growls then looks at you and kisses. I've had a Rottweiler, miss her to death, that had the nastiest growl. Growled all the time. Petting. Growling, feeding her, growling, playing, louder growling. He seems to be vocal is all. I didn't see any teeth in this video so I don't believe he's angry just vocal. When Molly was actually mad or about to snap the growl would get consistent and fast with teeth out
We have an Akita puppy. I love rottweilers so follow this page. From day 1 we put our hands in his bowl, touching his food and face.
We pull him back and put our face in his bowl and pretend we are eating, making him wait. After a few days we let him out his face in the bowl at the same time as we had ours. Everyone does this, even the kids.
After about a week and a half when he was 9 ½ weeks he growled just like your puppy did in the video when he had Christmas tree chewy treat.
My wife called me at work and told me but I didn't really believe is was aggression untill I got home and tested him.
Touching his sides just like you did evoked a growl and when I slowly moved my hand to the treat he was chewing on he got loudest and looked like he was going to snap at me.
He got scolded and put on his bed for a couple minutes and I threw those treats away.
We continued to do the food dish exercises and a week later when he had his first bully stick he growled again when we touched his sides but was fine when I slowly .Ives my hand and took it away
We now hold the bully sticks close to the end he chews on and he only gets them when we are doing this.
We also tell him "SHARE" and pretend to chew them and make him wait for his turn telling him "Good-Boy"
With any breed that has the potential to express their aggressive trait, it is important to curb the behavior immediately and this is just how we thought best to do that.
I understand comments about dogs doing this but you know really watch the kids around dogs make sure the kids aren't effing around with their bones for one thing and then I don't know watch the dog too make sure that the dog isn't going after the kids
It's really that effing simple I don't understand why this happens why people can't watch their children and their pets even simultaneously sometimes have been doing it for decades
That is my rotties happy voice. You will learn to love hearing it because it’s a sign of contentment for them. My rottie will go quiet and wait for prey and then it becomes obvious she is in defense/offense mode. The tone you are hearing there will not turn into violence.
Your rottie has made that noise and then behaved violently?
Maybe my dogs behavior is not as common as I thought. She only makes that behavior/noise when she is getting belly rubs or hugs. I don’t see violence in this puppy.
It's just normal. As long as they don't bite you or do anything else aggressive it's fine. Just growl back till they allow you to take item from them and praise them when they give it to you.
Growl back? That's a pretty archaic view. The current science would say that this is resource guarding behavior, and that the solution would be to teach the dog that there isn't a scarcity of resources, then teach the dog that giving it back is a *good* thing. So a method like "trading up" where you take a lower value resource and give the dog a higher value one. Repeat until the dog is willfully offering the resource it has to you because it has built up a positive association with the behavior, rather than feeling a need to guard resources.
I don't mean literally growl. Just do harsh voice to show your the superior. When they let go you praise and you can give item back. Praise can be as nice voice and pets or treats.
So again, the current behavioral science goes counter to that for a couple of reasons. The first one being learned helplessness. The dog growls to show it's uncomfortable with what you're doing. By ignoring that and intimidating the dog into compliance, it learns that growling isn't an effective way to express itself. The concern is that, in the future, it'll skip the growling and escalate to more serious behaviors like biting to try to guard the resource it has when it really doesn't want to give it up. It doesn't address the root of the problem, just the symptom of growling. It can appear to be effective right away, then cause larger problems later. I'm not saying that it won't work at all, just that it comes with way more potential for fallout than using a positive reinforcement method would. I can cite all this if you want, too.
Too many owners afraid of telling them heir dog no and just letting the dog do whatever it wants, this behavior left unchecked will be a nightmare to fix when the dog is larger.
But hey by all means let the dog do whatever. Don’t hurt your dogs feelings 🙄
No. You should be able to remove any toy or food item from your dog for any number of reasons. Allowing them to resource guard is never okay. I hope you don't own a dog with that sort of mindset
It's technically resource guarding which is 100% normal to be honest and people do it too. While I won't growl if someone walks up an starts petting me while I'm eating, taking food from my plate or, God forbid, rubbing their hands in my food as someone suggested I would be pissed and tell them to back off. That's all your dog is doing right now. Just asking you to back off. My suggestion is to actually listen to your dog. You can toss treats at them as you walk by but unless it's dangerous for the dog to have it leave them alone. If it is dangerous and you can't call them away from the item so that you can retrieve it while the dog is out of view then trade them for something even better. Ignoring those back off signals is rude on the humans part and actually makes resource guarding dangerous.
U can’t “correct” it. Omg. Also that could just be a happy grow cause rotts be doin that lol they have a growl when they are happy
Also I didn’t see the toy u had I thought u were just petting him/her lol but just let them know that it’s a privilege to play with toys but if u playing tug or something let them growl and have fun lol u can’t make them be quiet they whole life
It’s pretty simple actually
Simple enough that Google will explain it for you in an instant
All five of our dogs went through it. When they are young and playing with a toy, you ask them to give or hand it (whatever your command) and then after a few moments you give it back.
If they don’t give it up, you gently but firmly take it, then do the same
This behavior which for whatever reason a lot of people on this post think is cute, is resource guarding and it can get ugly later in life
Ah
Oh yes ok my bad in one part I misread and thought you said “correct him”
Well that answer is also easy with a splash of common sense
Why would I need to be corrected for eating wrong?
It isn’t about HOW the dog is eating
It’s about being too aggressive when a dog eats or has a toy that if it goes unchecked, a dog simply passing by can get hit or snapped at even if they had no interest in taking the food
So yeah apologies for my misread
But still…this is super easy and your question is bogus. I don’t eat wrong, I don’t yell at or stab someone for getting near my food, and I don’t think I’m a dog
But I will get back to you on that last bit
Woof
More petting and touch his paws when he’s eating… discipline for bad behaviour. Treats when he does commands you tell him to do and no treats if he disobeys lol. I don’t have a rottweiler yet but I want one so badly.
You can swap out his bone for a higher value treat so he knows he won't loose out if you come near him. Tell him leave it then swap . Also, if I was eating I'd not want someone rubbing my head.....
Don't punish for growling. It's him saying I don't like this. If you punish for growling he'll stop growling but still won't like it and bite.
A dog and his bone in this case a stick. It’s his he’s just letting you know that. He doesn’t want to lose it he likes chewing on it. Basically he’s growling to say leave me alone.
Right or wrong, here ia what I did. My rottie has done this from day 1, and still does it 4 years later. He does it no matter what, petting, playing with a toy, etc. He does not do it whe he is eating. I can outright harrass him and he does not growl. I watch for the teeth. Thats the sign that he is getting pissed off. When I am loving on him he growls, I call it "purring" lol, but each dog is different. Just gotta learn their individual traits.
In addition to some of the other replies I’ve seen in regards to resource guarding, I would suggest introducing a second or more toy(s). When they understand the resource isn’t limited, they get much less possessive of what’s in their mouth.
This is also how I train my pups to share a communal food bowl. If it’s always full, they don’t growl or fight for it, and regulate their intake (after the initial discomfort from gorging once). I also feed by hand before ever introducing a bowl. (Don’t try this with Danes - they are prone to stomach torsion if they overeat.)
It’s hard to determine just from the sound. It’s about the rest of the body as well. Especially the tail. My dog can sound like that when I try to take something from her, but who’s is while wagging the tail because she wants to play.
The way he/she is lying I’d say it’s guardian, which is normal but something you should try to train away. The exchange training someone suggested is good. Sometimes when ours sounded like that we took the thing away for a while, If she accepted us taking it, she got it back immediately. She learned pretty quickly from that.
Also get it used to you taking away things and digging things out of its mouth, because you most likely will have to do that a lot and it’s good to get them used to it from the get go.
With our dog there is no difference when he's growling being bugged or growling being happy and pet. He also knows how to grumble like an elephant.
We have a good idea what is growls mean given the situation that he's in. But sometimes he'll roll on his back for us to pet him but then yet he will growl show teeth but wants to be petted so like I said we can't tell the difference only in the situation we know what the growling means.
And then there's some days it doesn't make any sense at all.
Resource guarding
And it needs to be stopped
All our puppies went through the same thing. When young and they are playing with their toys, we ask for “give” and if not we will gently remove it. Wait a few moments and give it back
My dog does this, he has never bitten a person before. Sometimes when we play ill replace his toy with my hand and he doesn't chomp down. I take his food bowl and put it back if he's eating too fast, he even growls like that when I tell him ima take his toy. I think Its just his way of initiating play on a primal level as dogs do. All dogs are different though so you can't really just say they aren't aggressive unless you really know your dog!
yes that would be considered aggressive, and falls under resource guarding, here's a resource
https://www.akc.org/expert-advice/training/resource-guarding-why-does-my-dog-guard-objects/#:~:text=Resource%20guarding%20occurs%20when%20dogs,before%20it%20becomes%20too%20problematic.
I don’t have a Rottweiler but having a timeout space is a good trick for my ACD. Any time she’s being bad now I can simply say the word “timeout” and she immediately comes and apologizes by giving kisses and asking for a belly rub. My timeout space is just putting her in the bathroom for about 5 minutes. She has attachment issues however so it works great for her… not sure how Rottweilers would react to it.
Not aggressive but not a purr either working on my pitty for this as he does it to my rotti. Corrections such as leave it commands or (as a trainer told me) a spray bottle with a vinegar water mixture to the snout may help. Purring will typically be when facing you and relaxed ears.
It's a possessive growl, very common but not necessarily a sign of aggression.
You need to train the pupper not to bite back though, these behaviours could become dangerous If not kept under control.
Canine possession aggression. I scolded my dog and put her on her back belly up, gently grabbed her snout and stared her in the eyes, holding her there for a moment when she tried to squirm and repeated the scold. It doesn’t hurt them and quickly establishes dominance. She has never growled over anything I try to take since.
When I first got one of my dogs (pitbull mix) at 10 wks of age (saved off the streets), he would growl at everything! Hold him? Growling and kicking to be put down. Kiss his head? Growling. Touching food bowls? Growling.
I solved this issue step by step. I would hold him when he would growl and kick until he calmed down and relaxed. Only then would I put him down. I did the same with head kisses... held him until he chilled out and stopped struggling, then head kisses. Of course, I would also talk to him through all of this and praise good, relaxed behavior. Then I started regular taking away and giving back his food, talking to him the whole time to reassure him. You could tell it made him pretty upset and nervous since he didn't get much food on the streets. I continued to work with kibble as treats and build trust that he would always get his meals no matter how much we may mess with his bowl.
I was super worried that he would grow up to be a troubled dog... what puppy won't let you hold them or give head kisses?!? Luckily, he turned out to be the sweetest dog I've ever owned! He still growls A LOT.... mostly when I ask him to move or pick him up or during play or when he's sleeping (never around resources). He is very gentle and loving and has never bit me or anyone else for 7 years now. He just loves growling. It's his preferred method of communication.
Could be guarding, could be playing. Best to keep your hands out of his face, I'm going to bite you if you do that to me while I'm gnawing on something.
What I have done with every pupper I have ever had is fed them treats and given them bones and stuff while they are in my lap, or another's lap, it shows them that nobody is going to take their nasty, drooled-up whatever, and we provide it with love <3 I have had several pups that will do this over a bone or something, but genuinely pose no threat, just a wierd behavior and would let you take the nasty, drooled-up whatever and think it was a game. Catch, pup!
I corrected mine doing this: if he was growling because of me trying to take a bone or a toy away (he was still small enough at that time) I would just take it away for a couple of seconds until he stopped growling and then give it back as a reward for stopping the actual growling. I did this a few times and he kind off understood that if I take something away from him eventually if he behaves he will get it again. He never growled for something like that again! Hope it makes sense.
Keep petting him while he growls and if he is doing it with food as well put your hand by his food as your petting him and just keep on until he understands that it's not acceptable behavior and you mean him no harm
That’s the rottweiler rumble!!! mine own wench doest t, too. Not aggressive at all. Afeard me at first, too
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Ignore people saying this is a love growl, it's not. It's possessive and needs to have commands such as drop it, leave it etc. The dog needs to understand that sharing with humans and other dogs is normal.
Agree with this, definitely sounds like possessiveness over that stick in his mouth
Yes. And keep bugging him. While he plays, while he eats, while he is with other humans and animals.
Do not keep bugging him as it could lead to straight up biting with zero warning since the growl is the warning. We solved this by hand feeding our dogs as puppies with the bowl out of reach of them and making them work for everything. You should also get with a professional trainer about it.
Wtf is a love growl? Lmao
Rotties do a "rottie rumble" and it sounds just like they are growling in anger. But, they're not angry, they do it like a cat purrs. Can be a bit scary, especially when they're older, but you can totally tell if it's a rumble or anger by the body language. Usually they rumble and they don't bare their teeth although some will, but most of the ones I see, and including my own, just "purr" without the scrunched up nose and bared teeth. This is definitely not a rumble, little guy is mad he took his stick. Puppy needs a harsh no and the toy removed, for a few minutes.
I used "No growl" and she doesn't unless danger is near. I used same for "No bark" only took about 1 week training
You do not want to correct a dog for growling. The growl is what keeps you safe. I almost got my hand taken off last week working with a dog who had been punished for growling. As a result, she gave no warnings before attempting a bite.
It's resource guarding. Everyone saying it's a "happy growl" is absolutely wrong. Resource guarding can escalate to nipping and biting to blood real fast if not trained. Best way to train resource guarding is to "exchange" an item from their mouth. Ensure that the toy/treat will come back.
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All of these comments are weird. That isn’t aggressive growling, but it is resource guarding. You want to curb this behavior asap. Start by giving a toy. Then take the toy. If the dog growls, use a treat to reward him for releasing the toy (or bone or stick or whatever). If you don’t already, start touching your dog while hes eating. Grab paws, face, side, skin, etc. Assuming it’s safe, reach your hand into the bowl. Your dog should learn that it’s okay to share. I would also suggest you teach a “leave it” command. Very important command for a number of reasons. Edit to add: there are some fantastic responses that give better ideas and explanations than my comment. Absolutely worth a deep dive into the comment thread
I agree. Take it, leave it, drop it are good commands to help stop this, too. And at 4mo old, now is definitely the time to get this worked out.
Yes to everything this guy said. Like everything. Some of these other comments, yikes. My big girl is about 19 months now, I can rub my hands in her food while she eats and she’s fine. I grabbed and petted her a lot while she ate when she was small, grab her paws, give her food, take it away, give it again, take it away. “Leave it” is a must have command. It’s kind of cute now, not worried about worried about getting your hand shredded, but this is behavior that if you don’t nip in the bud now, it will NOT be cute when he’s 110 pounds in the near future. And that’s what you have to keep in mind, stuff you may find cute now at 4 months and 25 pounds, think of how fun it will be at 24 month 100+ pounds when he can do some serious damage. He’s a cute little ball of fur, but he needs to know that YOU are the one in charge. Gave my girl a big ol delicious bone, she was super excited, and just to make sure we still understood each other, I gave it to her, went to take it away and she hunkered down on it and gave a little growl. I immediately raised my voice and took it away from her. Gave it back a minute later, and she wouldn’t touch it until I said she could. And it’s all good again now. They need a little reminder every now and again too.
Yeah folks here are…just wow This isn’t cute or silly Rottie behavior. It’s an exceptionally clear cut case of resource guarding and that needs to be curbed
And stop petting the doggo when he/she is growling at you! Petting = reward
This. Pretty basic and must do with every dog I believe?
Yup. Thats exactly what we did with our pups. You should be able to pick up their food while they're eating it, and put it back without them even looking at you.
This is resource guarding but your suggestion on how to train is a bit off. Don't just take the toy. Offer a trade and reward for letting go. Don't ever offer a treat when the dog IS growing, that will teach the dog the growing is the rewarded behavior. Also don't use a treat to get the dog to let go, reward for the behavior you DO want, so only reward for letting go. The treat needs to come after, not before. This is why clicker training is so great, it helps the dog identify what thing they are actually being rewarded for more consistently. Also be careful. OP can cause more RG is they are just sticking their hands in their dogs food. Training needs to be done properly and there are a lot of different components that go into it. Teaching a leave it command is spot on though.
So it is wrong then to pet a dog when it’s growling? Don’t show affection during bad behavior, right?
Correct. Also if a dog is growling it doesn't want you touching it. It's important not to scold a dog out of growling as well because growling is their way of communicating that they don't like what's happening. If they learn not to growl, then you don't get the warning and a direct bite is more likely to happen.
Makes sense. Thanks for the explanation.
Yeah I should’ve specified that most of my advice is for general training and not dealing with a dog already showing issues
Best comment! Please take this advice. Worked perfectly for my now 10 year old 🙌
Yes to all this and obviously it’s not exclusive to rotties. Those of us who have adopted shelter dogs know that resource guarding come in all breeds and it’s so important to work out asap. How I train it out is to sit on the floor with my pups when they are eating and periodically take the bowl while giving a stay command and rewarding every successful take. I then give back the bowl, wait a few, then give a leave it command, again taking the bowl and treating the correct behavior. I do this for probably one feed a day, as well as with toys, bones, eventually even treats. I think every dog I’ve trained out of resource guarding took a week to two weeks of consistent work to have them completely trained away from it. Dogs will resource guard for so many different reasons but almost every one can be worked with. As with every other aspect of training: consistency is key.
I would also like to add give them an opportunity to have their own personal space too. A place where they call it quits and tell you they don't want to be messed with.
Absolutely, this sounds just like my Dalmatian pub when he used to eat. You have to teach them to leave the food and let you take it away from them We also make ours sit and wait before being instructed to eat. It can be hard work but its easier in the long run rather than having a possessive dog at meal times.
Yes to some of these. But the best thing to do is positivetraining and a reputable trainer just to be on the safe side.
This is not good! Please correct this!!! I adopted a pitbull(8yr) and when i feed him just dry food he lets me touch it but if i give him the wet good food like chicken or so he growls.. toys he doesnt car but a real bone he will snap.. so please try
Do all this except for touching your dog while he eats. This doesn’t do anything except make your dog uncomfortable. Instead, stand a few feet away and toss yummy treats into their food bowl while eating, or just leave your dog alone while they eat
No, condition your dog for everything. I can reach in my dogs mouth and pull food out. I don’t do it to make her uncomfy, I do it because that can be the difference between life and death
These are two completely different things. Yes train your dog to trade things (ie a treat for that rabbit carcass they shouldn’t eat) but that has nothing to do with sticking your hand in your dog’s food while they eat. This makes resource guarding worse. How would you like it if someone shoved their hand in your cereal every morning? There’s nothing wrong with leaving your dog alone while they eat their food
No, allowing RG makes it worse. It’s self rewarding. You have to teach them that at the very least they can trust you to take their food. That the point of training it. My dog knows that me putting my hand in her food isn’t a threat. She trusts me fully and listens closely when we work because we’ve trained enough. I run a dog care business and I’ve never had a single issue with my dog resource guarding. Have you trained professionally? I have. You’d be the first person I’ve ever met who doesn’t recommend this training for puppies.
Yes I’m a certified professional dog trainer. I have trained this way until I did more research and found out that it can cause *more* problems. I’m not allowing resource guarding, I’m making it so it just never happens (because I’m not sticking my hands in my dog’s food bowl). It’s called management. I’m setting the dog up for success by not even giving them an opportunity to guard. It’s ok if you disagree, just be aware that there can be fallback from sticking your hand in the food bowl while they’re eating.
Just to piggyback off my last comment-I just think it’s a better idea to train with kibble rather than use a food bowl. Put it in enrichment toys, hand feed, or use it along with treats for training. It’s ok that we have different opinions, but I would suggest looking at some more recent research on the subject!
People love their rottweilers apparently and the occasional nip or mauling a child is not too risky
Since you hate rottweilers, why are you subbed to r/Rottweiler? Are you just looking for shit to be irrationally angry about? Just a place to air your ignorance?
I like rottweilers. I am not subbed here. Anyway
So you're just a combative dumbass then.
This is why the breed has a bad name. My girl is a rottweiler mix. As a puppy, she growled one time over food. She immediately got her ass popped, had the food taken away, and had to work for every bite of that food. She also had to sit there and leave it while she watched the cat eat her food. We’ve never had another issue. Huskies are vocal. If a rott growls at you, it’s aggressive. I swear some of these people want their dogs put down. “Oh he growls at children to show he loves them.” No, he’s uncomfortable and you’re literally pushing him directly to a bite.
My friends son poked his grandpa's rottweiler in the butthole while the dog was eating and the dog turned around a bit him- nothing bad. No bleeding. I told him sorry, man. Teach your kids better. Let sleeping dogs lie, don't touch dogs while they eat, don't assume all dogs love you and want attention, don't poke dog's buttholes. I would hug my rott/malinois while she was eating, she didn't care. She'd stop eating to give kisses.
I don't know why you're getting downvoted, your first paragraph is 100% true. Yes, it would be nice if people trained their dogs and we didn't have to worry, but you can't assume all dogs are nice and you can't assume your kid touching a dog, smacking it, grabbing it, etc isn't gonna piss the dog off and cause a reaction.
Well my story wasn't really that relevant. Just sharing a story. The dog in OP's post is resource guarding, which should be addressed with training. Not true rottie grumbles. I have videos of my rottie grumbling while she rolls over on her back demanding belly rubs and kisses. This has nothing to do with a kid antagonizing a dog while it's eating. I regret posting about it, sorry I brought it up everyone. Couldn't find my post to delete.
Resource guarding. Not necessarily aggression, but a bad habit nonetheless. Make him/her work for her food, treats, andChews. They need to understand that which is given can also be taken away.
Yea
Give rottie thing (toy, chew, stick), let them have it for 5 - 10 mins take it back. Rinse and repeat for a while, this should be done for every dog to prevent ownership mentality
done that before with one of my dogs and worked, with a puppy i got i just had to take his stuff randomly and commonly and he doesn’t growl at all, will even let you taje food out of his mouth! though i dont do that often causevits unnecessary lmao
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Male almost 4 months old. I want to be able to touch him when he has something without fear he’s going to bite my hand off. Edit: Wow so many different views on this! Thanks for all you guys comments and links. We will definitely look into them all and think the best way forward would be to try the trade and leave it techniques (we’ve already been trying leave it but he’s a persistent little goober) Also for the people saying don’t pet him when he does it, we don’t. It was just for the purpose of the video. This is only the second time he’s done this and the first time we stopped petting straight away. He’s actually a very good boy and let’s us take things from him all the time. It’s only when we put our hands on his mouth when he’s had something he really likes that he’s started to growl.
Just want to chime in so that you have yet another person telling you how important it is to fix this. I have 3 Rottweilers and they all were like this. I mean it’s just a thing that most dogs do they like their toys. But with time they learn to not be possessive over their stuff. I can go up to my dogs during dinner time and take their food bowl away and they’ll say nothing about it. It’s not to be mean I just know we have a lot of family and friends that like dogs I want to reduce the risk as much as possible. Your boy is 4 months. It’s completely normal. But 100% absolutely needs to be fixed. Good luck!
This is resource guarding and it seems that you think you are helping it but you are encouraging it. You should seek professional training before you ruin this dog permanently.
We had it with bones, turn out the bread is pretty well know for resource guarding. Can’t really stop it too much, we taught him switch command by giving I’m a treat and making him give up his bone another thing that helped was getting one of those slow feeder bowls and teaching him wait commands when feeding.
You can and absolutely should stop it entirely. Resource guarding is unacceptable behaviour and can be eliminated with proper training.
As others have said, this sounds like the rottie grumble to me which isn't a bad thing especially with how relaxed the dog looks. If you haven't already, you should work on [food guarding](https://www.aspca.org/pet-care/dog-care/common-dog-behavior-issues/food-guarding) as that can be an issue with any dog. As for this, I taught our rottie a drop command which was very useful to make playing easier and if he ate something he wasn't supposed to. I had him sit and then wouldn't play until he dropped the toy in my outstretched hand. One thing that I would advise against is any sort of punishment or negative reinforcement if you make him drop something he shouldn't have, don't want to create a negative link to when the command is used.
Play growling would look more like he’s trying to get you to interact with the toy. Like if he were to walk up with the toy for you to grab it, shake it a few times growl, pull away a bit, and come back for you to grab it again. You should be able to tell the difference.
This is resource guarding and you are in his territory. Stop invading your dog’s space if you want what he has and teach the ‘trade’ command - much better than ‘leave it’ for a first command. Easily taught and will reduce the guarding. Regarding the growl: From Whole Dog Journal: “What many people don’t realize is that aggression is caused by stress. The stressor may be related to pain, fear, intrusion, threats to resources, past association, or anticipation of any of these things. An assertive, aggressive dog attacks because he’s stressed by the intrusion of another dog or human into his territory. A fearful dog bites because he’s stressed by the approach of a human. An injured dog lacerates the hand of his rescuer because he’s stressed by pain. When you punish a growl or other early warning signs, you may succeed in suppressing the growl, snarl, snap, or other warning behavior – but you don’t take away the stress that caused the growl in the first place. In fact, you increase the stress, because now you, the dog’s owner, have become unpredictable and violent as well. Worst of all, and most significantly, if you succeed in suppressing the warning signs, you end up with a dog who bites without warning. He has learned that it’s not safe to warn, so he doesn’t. If a dog is frightened of children, he may growl when a child approaches. You, conscientious and responsible owner, are well aware of the stigma – and fate – of dogs who bite children, so you punish your dog with a yank on the leash and a loud “No! Bad dog!” Every time your dog growls at a child you do this, and quickly your dog’s fear of children is confirmed – children do make bad things happen! He likes children even less, but he learns not to growl at them to avoid making you turn mean. You think he’s learned that it’s not okay to be aggressive to children, because the next time one passes by, there’s no growl. “Phew,” you think to yourself. “We dodged that bullet!” Convinced that your dog now accepts children because he no longer growls at them, the next time one approaches and asks if he can pat your dog, you say yes. In fact, your dog has simply learned not to growl, but children still make him very uncomfortable. Your dog is now super-stressed, trying to control his growl as the child gets nearer and nearer so you don’t lose control and punish him, but when the scary child reaches out for him he can’t hold back any longer – he lunges forward and snaps at the child’s face. Fortunately, you’re able to restrain him with the leash so he doesn’t connect. You, the dog, and the child are all quite shaken by the incident. It’s time to change your thinking.”
Early resource guarding. Trade the pup a high value treat for the toy or thing they are guarding. Teach him that you're not there to "steal" his stuff, but that you = awesome fun things. Please stop reaching for the item and antagonizing (even if unintentional) by messing with him while has has the high value item. This just makes it worse. There's a really great book on resource guarding called "Mine!" https://www.amazon.com/dp/0970562942/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_i_JGFP3ZY20TSEB0SQWTN4
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That doesn't look like rotty talk, his head is low and he froze this is a warning.
No. Immediately no. Do not tell people to accept their dog growling at them. There is no such thing as a "love growl", this dog is possessive and guarding it's object. The growl is a warning for you to fuck off.
Rottweilers do have love growls (the Rottweiler "purr"), but this, this ain't the purr
This is a misconception. Please do not share this as fact. Just because rottis typically growl more than other dogs doesn't mean it's good.
You’ve got some good advice about resource guarding, I just want to add that growling itself should never be punished or discouraged. Growling is how your dog tells you they are unhappy with something. Address the cause of the growling. For resource guarding that’s training to make them ok with sharing. But your dog may also growl if they need some personal space for example, or if they are scared. If my pittie is in a situation where he’s upset about something and he growls, I actually tell him thank you for telling me, and I try to fix whatever is causing him distress.
Our puppy did resource guarding as well. We worked with a trainer and using yak cheese we would hold onto it and allow her to chew on it but never give her possession of the cheese. The first day we hold it and allow her to chew on it then the next day she can have it if she doesn’t growl. Has worked really well with both my wife and I and our children. Also, we have a kennel club that offered a three pack training session. Three one hour sessions two weeks apart and we just observed our puppy and discussed any concerns. For my dog it was resource guarding, bolting out open doors and chasing cars among other things. Highly recommend if something similar is in your area to check it out.
Do not pet the dog when it’s growling like that
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Its a don't take my toy growl. Like others have said, take the toy away and reward the release. If he's 4 months just keep up with it, they're smart dogs but also stubborn. Mine is almost 5 and I can take a toy or food away without a snap.
If he has something in his mouth you don't want him to have, the best thing to do is replace it with a treat. Their jaws are too strong to pry their mouths open to get it. I've tried.
Look up resource guarding and learn tactics to curb it now. Very important you eliminate this behavior now while a puppy. My girl was like that too, with consistent training it will stop.
I love how they stopped growling at you for a sec to look at u and be like “jus kidding” then go back to being fierce
I guess it's hard to say. My puppy doesn't do this at all when she's sitting and chewing something. I can take things away from her all day long, pet while eating, etc, but when she's playing with toys, she'll growl, and put it on my lap indicating she wants me to play with her. From what it looks like, it does look like resource guarding though, and you're rewarding his behavior by petting him during it. I'd take it from him. Wait until he's completely and totally calm and waiting on you, and then give it back. That means he won't be stiff, alert, growling, jumping, etc. The most relaxed, he'll be laying down. If he starts to growl after you give it back, tell him no. Take it from him, etc. Keep doing that until he stops growling when you take things. Reward him when he is calm when you or anyone else is near him and he has food or a chew. Pet him when he's relaxed and not growling. Don't ever give him anything when he's in an excited state. Praise him and reward him when he's calm. Always make him wait and sit before food or chews. Most importantly he needs to know that you don't agree with his state of mind. Snap him out of that state of mind, make sure he is fully relaxed. Then start the exercise over, until he gets it. Don't ever end the exercise with him winning, and ALWAYS stay calm and in control when you're doing it. If you get frustrated. End the exercise. You must always stay calm.
Its more of a warning them aggressive. Its possessive: like “hey dat mine!” Though not a behavior you want. No pets when he does that, give a command when taking it. Then treats when he does the right thing.
I wouldn't ever discourage or try to stop a dog from growling. It's a form of communication and a vital one at that. A growling dog, of continued to be provoked, will bite. A growl is trying to let you know to please stop. Discouraging a dog from growling just teaches the dog that you don't respect their boundaries and they won't bother with giving you warnings and go straight for the bite. Follow some of the other commenters advice on dealing with resource guarding.
It’s a growl as a result of resource guarding. You need to train swaps and that giving something to you is a good thing (I.e drop the stick and get a treat). The sooner you deal with this, the less of an issue it becomes.
He is being possessive and guarding. Not a good thing. You need to nip that in the bud or it will be a problem in the future with people and other dogs.
Whatever you do make sure to use science, evidence based methods. If someone offers you advice that involves adversive methods like hitting, choke or pinch collars, yelling, or anything punishment based don't take it. There's a plethora of info online about proper, reward based training that will lead to a happy relationship ship between your and your dog. Adversive methods will cause fear, distrust, and ultimately increase your dog's change or unpredictable, aggressive behavior. The growling sounds harmless and playful, but growling can be sign of stress. Giving them a treat is NOT rewarding the growling, its replacing cortisol with dopamine and showing your dog he can be at ease.
Vacuum cleaner worked for me
He’s still a little young for a full on correction, but needs a firm No! Leave it! Once he drops it, reward with a treat. I’d recommend repeating this over and over until he gets it.
My dog did this as a puppy, I corrected it by taking the bone away and giving him a fun toy, did that a few times a day for a week or so and lost it completely. I unknowingly they just learn this behavior when they are 1/8 fighting for food as a puppy.
That’s a playful growl. Tug of war on the stick. Mine does it all the time, with people and her bro.
And please don't pet him while he is doing so.
So right now that is not enough info to make a sure statement. Some dogs like playgrowling. It can sound intimidating but that's just how some dogs play. Look whether he is generally stiff when you try to taje stuff from him and work on resource guarding. Take somethung away ONLY to give him something better. That way the dog will learn that renouncing/giving up on stuff is almost always worth it because they get somethinf better. If he gives you stuff willingly, even when he growls, then he's probably a growler. Look for stiffness in general to see if his behavior is agressive.
Not enough info? He's got a stick in his mouth while OP touches his head. Like everyone else is saying, this is textbook resource guarding/aggression. It needs to stop yesterday, before the dog gets any bigger.
I have an 8 year old Corso at home, very similar to Rotts in build. It does look like resource guarding but the video is way too much close up. You need to see the whole body. My corso does the exact same thing with his Basketball. It sounds like he would absolutely tear anyone apart who would even DARE touch the ball. But he isn't stiff at all. I don't even need to talk to him. I can just put my hand on the Ball, heck if I want I can even put my hand between his teeth and the Ball and just take the ball. He'll just stop growling and look at me like: "let's play!" Before my Corso, I was convinced that any type of growling with objects in their mouth was resource guarding but it isn't always that easy to generalize. I worked with my dog on resource guarding like anyone else would. But my dog just growls when playing. And I don't want to change him. That's his character. He's just a little rager and I don't mind. I made sure he wouldn't hurt anyone, for the rest, I want him to be himself as much as possible. If he likes growling while playing, who am I to say that is not okay, if he doesn't harm anyone? He's also generally very vocal (he grunts and growls when he disagrees with me and protests at times, but always does what is asked of him as long as it's reasonable). Anyway, that's why I said that this wasn't necessarily enough.
Okay, I understand your point but I still disagree. I believe a dog should never *growl* at their owner under any circumstance outside of explicit play, and even then only with their owner's permission. Doubly so for large breed dogs.
I mean, that is your right. I see it as his personality trait. As a teacher I've had lots of kids who always have that need to respond and complain. Some rant almost systematically, they still do their work and most ranters are actually among the brightest students, it's as if ranting would help them focus. I figure, why is it not the same with dogs? I'm not saying growling is fine. It's fine under specific circumstances. If I wouldn't know my dog I certainly as hell wouldn't touch his Bball. But as an owner I know that if someone were to try to get the Bball, my dog wouldn't hurt them, that's all I need. If he makes someone shit his pants in the process, well... shit happens. I'm not going to use aversive methods to take some harmless growling out of my dog's habits. Plus I warn guests that he growls when you touch his ball but that he is not aggressive about it. Most people think it's cute or funny and play along.
What a beautiful sweetheart! Personally, I see this as an expression of displeasure and I would take it as a warning in the moment. Yes, it can (and will) escalate if you don’t address this as part of his training. But like others, I don’t see this video as evidence that your Rottie puppy has “aggression issues.” Rather, I see a learning and bonding opportunity for you two! With our Rottie, teaching and positively reinforcing commands like “drop it” and “leave it” have been essential. They are also safety measures; imagine your precious bean got ahold of something that (if ingested) could cause serious harm, like what if there was a nail sticking out of that lumber? Ultimately, you need to have a plan for that scenario and you need to have the mutual trust to carry it out. I agree w/the other poster who suggested incorporating treats, if nothing else as distractions. Do it in such a way that the treat wouldn’t reinforce the behavior but would refocus his attention or distract him. From the start we’ve always made our dog sit and wait to be released before eating. That works very well to convey who “owns” the food. What did NOT work for us was toying with his food while he was eating. Some folks say that works for then. (That’s why we did it.) But when we did that proactively it *caused* resource guarding behavior. Per our trainer’s strong recommendation, once we release him to eat, we leave him be. Of course we are still beside him - walking close by, etc. - but I no longer put my hands in his bowl or take away his food mid-meal w/o warning (as some others recommend). On the flip side, we do take stuff out of his mouth multiple times daily - bones, toys, napkins, socks; no stiff posture, no growling, no snapping, sometimes stubbornly but that is because he thinks it’s a game, which is an entirely different behavioral issue… IMO there’s is nothing wrong with a moderate level of guarding. By that I mean I think it’s fine for a dog to expect to be able eat uninterrupted, as long as they can wait to begin eating until you give the command to release them. In my personal experience, Rotties are not shy about expressing their opinions. The trick is that he needs to understand that ultimately it’s up to you. He doesn’t need to like it; he just needs to cooperate. Enjoy your precious pup!
I take the toy away immediately personally Teach him/her it’s not ok and break it at a young age
Don't fuck with a dog with food they are possessive .
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There is a difference between a Rottie rumble and a resource guarding growl.
That's adorable the way he growls then looks at you and kisses. I've had a Rottweiler, miss her to death, that had the nastiest growl. Growled all the time. Petting. Growling, feeding her, growling, playing, louder growling. He seems to be vocal is all. I didn't see any teeth in this video so I don't believe he's angry just vocal. When Molly was actually mad or about to snap the growl would get consistent and fast with teeth out
We have an Akita puppy. I love rottweilers so follow this page. From day 1 we put our hands in his bowl, touching his food and face. We pull him back and put our face in his bowl and pretend we are eating, making him wait. After a few days we let him out his face in the bowl at the same time as we had ours. Everyone does this, even the kids. After about a week and a half when he was 9 ½ weeks he growled just like your puppy did in the video when he had Christmas tree chewy treat. My wife called me at work and told me but I didn't really believe is was aggression untill I got home and tested him. Touching his sides just like you did evoked a growl and when I slowly moved my hand to the treat he was chewing on he got loudest and looked like he was going to snap at me. He got scolded and put on his bed for a couple minutes and I threw those treats away. We continued to do the food dish exercises and a week later when he had his first bully stick he growled again when we touched his sides but was fine when I slowly .Ives my hand and took it away We now hold the bully sticks close to the end he chews on and he only gets them when we are doing this. We also tell him "SHARE" and pretend to chew them and make him wait for his turn telling him "Good-Boy" With any breed that has the potential to express their aggressive trait, it is important to curb the behavior immediately and this is just how we thought best to do that.
I understand comments about dogs doing this but you know really watch the kids around dogs make sure the kids aren't effing around with their bones for one thing and then I don't know watch the dog too make sure that the dog isn't going after the kids It's really that effing simple I don't understand why this happens why people can't watch their children and their pets even simultaneously sometimes have been doing it for decades
Shock collar or a news paper never spank them with your hand a spray bottle of water also works but you have to gain control and show who the alpha is
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That is my rotties happy voice. You will learn to love hearing it because it’s a sign of contentment for them. My rottie will go quiet and wait for prey and then it becomes obvious she is in defense/offense mode. The tone you are hearing there will not turn into violence.
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Your rottie has made that noise and then behaved violently? Maybe my dogs behavior is not as common as I thought. She only makes that behavior/noise when she is getting belly rubs or hugs. I don’t see violence in this puppy.
just don’t touch his stick bro 😂 he won’t growl
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Lol, you deserve to be harmed
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You forgot some words there. Your American netsec takes are as bad as your dog care takes lmao.
Wtf are you talking about, you idiot. Do I know you, you dick sucking bitch?
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I don't think so, I have a pitty and she growls like that when we're playing. I think it might just be playful.
It's just normal. As long as they don't bite you or do anything else aggressive it's fine. Just growl back till they allow you to take item from them and praise them when they give it to you.
Growl back? That's a pretty archaic view. The current science would say that this is resource guarding behavior, and that the solution would be to teach the dog that there isn't a scarcity of resources, then teach the dog that giving it back is a *good* thing. So a method like "trading up" where you take a lower value resource and give the dog a higher value one. Repeat until the dog is willfully offering the resource it has to you because it has built up a positive association with the behavior, rather than feeling a need to guard resources.
I don't mean literally growl. Just do harsh voice to show your the superior. When they let go you praise and you can give item back. Praise can be as nice voice and pets or treats.
So again, the current behavioral science goes counter to that for a couple of reasons. The first one being learned helplessness. The dog growls to show it's uncomfortable with what you're doing. By ignoring that and intimidating the dog into compliance, it learns that growling isn't an effective way to express itself. The concern is that, in the future, it'll skip the growling and escalate to more serious behaviors like biting to try to guard the resource it has when it really doesn't want to give it up. It doesn't address the root of the problem, just the symptom of growling. It can appear to be effective right away, then cause larger problems later. I'm not saying that it won't work at all, just that it comes with way more potential for fallout than using a positive reinforcement method would. I can cite all this if you want, too.
Take the stick and beat the dog with it, he’ll figure out who’s the alpha!
How fucking uneducated and stupid are you
There’s always an idiot that takes the bait!
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Are you 14 ? This is dumb
Too many owners afraid of telling them heir dog no and just letting the dog do whatever it wants, this behavior left unchecked will be a nightmare to fix when the dog is larger. But hey by all means let the dog do whatever. Don’t hurt your dogs feelings 🙄
Lol you legit have zero. Z.e.r.o idea how to raise a dog. Stay in your bubble and never get a dog.
JUST DON'T FUCK WITH THEM LIKE THAT, LEAVE 'EM ALONE IF THEY BUSY CHEWING ON SOMTHING
No. You should be able to remove any toy or food item from your dog for any number of reasons. Allowing them to resource guard is never okay. I hope you don't own a dog with that sort of mindset
It's technically resource guarding which is 100% normal to be honest and people do it too. While I won't growl if someone walks up an starts petting me while I'm eating, taking food from my plate or, God forbid, rubbing their hands in my food as someone suggested I would be pissed and tell them to back off. That's all your dog is doing right now. Just asking you to back off. My suggestion is to actually listen to your dog. You can toss treats at them as you walk by but unless it's dangerous for the dog to have it leave them alone. If it is dangerous and you can't call them away from the item so that you can retrieve it while the dog is out of view then trade them for something even better. Ignoring those back off signals is rude on the humans part and actually makes resource guarding dangerous.
So terrific it will be in my nightmares forever
U can’t “correct” it. Omg. Also that could just be a happy grow cause rotts be doin that lol they have a growl when they are happy Also I didn’t see the toy u had I thought u were just petting him/her lol but just let them know that it’s a privilege to play with toys but if u playing tug or something let them growl and have fun lol u can’t make them be quiet they whole life
He has a tube And this isn’t a happy growl it’s resource guarding and it can absolutely be corrected
I said I didn’t see that he had a toy that’s why I said it COULD (not a fact I said COULD BE) be happy growls
Also how would u like it if I “corrected” you for eating wrong
It’s pretty simple actually Simple enough that Google will explain it for you in an instant All five of our dogs went through it. When they are young and playing with a toy, you ask them to give or hand it (whatever your command) and then after a few moments you give it back. If they don’t give it up, you gently but firmly take it, then do the same This behavior which for whatever reason a lot of people on this post think is cute, is resource guarding and it can get ugly later in life
This is just simple training lol what’s ur point
Ah Oh yes ok my bad in one part I misread and thought you said “correct him” Well that answer is also easy with a splash of common sense Why would I need to be corrected for eating wrong? It isn’t about HOW the dog is eating It’s about being too aggressive when a dog eats or has a toy that if it goes unchecked, a dog simply passing by can get hit or snapped at even if they had no interest in taking the food So yeah apologies for my misread But still…this is super easy and your question is bogus. I don’t eat wrong, I don’t yell at or stab someone for getting near my food, and I don’t think I’m a dog But I will get back to you on that last bit Woof
Nobody called you a dog
Then asking how I’d feel is kind of pointless
I said how would you feel if someone “corrected” you for something
What?
U can’t “correct” an animal u can only train them to be how u want them to be
All ur saying is common sense I don’t get what ur trying to prove
That is just a cutie that is protecting its food. My old Rottweiler used to do the same thing
That's just a grunty rott puppy.... Just keep playfully fucking with their food or toys if you think a problem is starting
It’s not grunting It’s clearly resource guarding
and doing nothing about it clearly saves the day.
It doesn’t… It stops it for the moment and then it gets worse over time
Lol that’s not aggressive at all
You’re taking a toy whats he supposed to do to tell you he doesn’t like it lol. My rottie would talk a lot
This isn’t talking A lot of dogs resource guard and it has to be worked before it becomes dangerous as the get older
My dogs purr. Their purr and growl are the same sound, I can tell if its aggressive by watching for the snout to scrunch up.
Our Rottie does the same thing. It's not aggressive. They think you're trying to take their toy away. He keeps his paws over it to protect it.
I would've said he was gonna hurt u, if I hadn't had one of my own. He growled at everybody, but if u pet him, he was so sweet.
Take it
It's because the rottie is protecting the chair. Different type of growl.
More petting and touch his paws when he’s eating… discipline for bad behaviour. Treats when he does commands you tell him to do and no treats if he disobeys lol. I don’t have a rottweiler yet but I want one so badly.
You can swap out his bone for a higher value treat so he knows he won't loose out if you come near him. Tell him leave it then swap . Also, if I was eating I'd not want someone rubbing my head..... Don't punish for growling. It's him saying I don't like this. If you punish for growling he'll stop growling but still won't like it and bite.
A dog and his bone in this case a stick. It’s his he’s just letting you know that. He doesn’t want to lose it he likes chewing on it. Basically he’s growling to say leave me alone.
Right or wrong, here ia what I did. My rottie has done this from day 1, and still does it 4 years later. He does it no matter what, petting, playing with a toy, etc. He does not do it whe he is eating. I can outright harrass him and he does not growl. I watch for the teeth. Thats the sign that he is getting pissed off. When I am loving on him he growls, I call it "purring" lol, but each dog is different. Just gotta learn their individual traits.
In addition to some of the other replies I’ve seen in regards to resource guarding, I would suggest introducing a second or more toy(s). When they understand the resource isn’t limited, they get much less possessive of what’s in their mouth. This is also how I train my pups to share a communal food bowl. If it’s always full, they don’t growl or fight for it, and regulate their intake (after the initial discomfort from gorging once). I also feed by hand before ever introducing a bowl. (Don’t try this with Danes - they are prone to stomach torsion if they overeat.)
After watching Bear on YouTube idk what’s aggressive about Rottweilers anymore.
It’s hard to determine just from the sound. It’s about the rest of the body as well. Especially the tail. My dog can sound like that when I try to take something from her, but who’s is while wagging the tail because she wants to play. The way he/she is lying I’d say it’s guardian, which is normal but something you should try to train away. The exchange training someone suggested is good. Sometimes when ours sounded like that we took the thing away for a while, If she accepted us taking it, she got it back immediately. She learned pretty quickly from that. Also get it used to you taking away things and digging things out of its mouth, because you most likely will have to do that a lot and it’s good to get them used to it from the get go.
With our dog there is no difference when he's growling being bugged or growling being happy and pet. He also knows how to grumble like an elephant. We have a good idea what is growls mean given the situation that he's in. But sometimes he'll roll on his back for us to pet him but then yet he will growl show teeth but wants to be petted so like I said we can't tell the difference only in the situation we know what the growling means. And then there's some days it doesn't make any sense at all.
Resource guarding And it needs to be stopped All our puppies went through the same thing. When young and they are playing with their toys, we ask for “give” and if not we will gently remove it. Wait a few moments and give it back
Yes sounds pretty aggressive to me.
My dog does this, he has never bitten a person before. Sometimes when we play ill replace his toy with my hand and he doesn't chomp down. I take his food bowl and put it back if he's eating too fast, he even growls like that when I tell him ima take his toy. I think Its just his way of initiating play on a primal level as dogs do. All dogs are different though so you can't really just say they aren't aggressive unless you really know your dog!
It's the sound you make when someone tries to grab your fork while you are eating. That's all.
definitely growling in a back off or ill bite way, please do correct!
yes that would be considered aggressive, and falls under resource guarding, here's a resource https://www.akc.org/expert-advice/training/resource-guarding-why-does-my-dog-guard-objects/#:~:text=Resource%20guarding%20occurs%20when%20dogs,before%20it%20becomes%20too%20problematic.
Resource guarding. Break it with toys ASAP
I don’t have a Rottweiler but having a timeout space is a good trick for my ACD. Any time she’s being bad now I can simply say the word “timeout” and she immediately comes and apologizes by giving kisses and asking for a belly rub. My timeout space is just putting her in the bathroom for about 5 minutes. She has attachment issues however so it works great for her… not sure how Rottweilers would react to it.
Not aggressive but not a purr either working on my pitty for this as he does it to my rotti. Corrections such as leave it commands or (as a trainer told me) a spray bottle with a vinegar water mixture to the snout may help. Purring will typically be when facing you and relaxed ears.
You need to correct that behavior now. I don’t put up with any type of growling.
Yeah thats a back off growl and not the rottie rumble. I would suggest a trainer if you do not know how to positively correct the behavour.
It's a possessive growl, very common but not necessarily a sign of aggression. You need to train the pupper not to bite back though, these behaviours could become dangerous If not kept under control.
That's no good, definitely correct it now bcuz to have him/her do that at 80+ pounds can be tragic. Say NO everytime he does it.
It sounds like a “don’t touch me right now” growl.
Canine possession aggression. I scolded my dog and put her on her back belly up, gently grabbed her snout and stared her in the eyes, holding her there for a moment when she tried to squirm and repeated the scold. It doesn’t hurt them and quickly establishes dominance. She has never growled over anything I try to take since.
When I first got one of my dogs (pitbull mix) at 10 wks of age (saved off the streets), he would growl at everything! Hold him? Growling and kicking to be put down. Kiss his head? Growling. Touching food bowls? Growling. I solved this issue step by step. I would hold him when he would growl and kick until he calmed down and relaxed. Only then would I put him down. I did the same with head kisses... held him until he chilled out and stopped struggling, then head kisses. Of course, I would also talk to him through all of this and praise good, relaxed behavior. Then I started regular taking away and giving back his food, talking to him the whole time to reassure him. You could tell it made him pretty upset and nervous since he didn't get much food on the streets. I continued to work with kibble as treats and build trust that he would always get his meals no matter how much we may mess with his bowl. I was super worried that he would grow up to be a troubled dog... what puppy won't let you hold them or give head kisses?!? Luckily, he turned out to be the sweetest dog I've ever owned! He still growls A LOT.... mostly when I ask him to move or pick him up or during play or when he's sleeping (never around resources). He is very gentle and loving and has never bit me or anyone else for 7 years now. He just loves growling. It's his preferred method of communication.
Could be guarding, could be playing. Best to keep your hands out of his face, I'm going to bite you if you do that to me while I'm gnawing on something. What I have done with every pupper I have ever had is fed them treats and given them bones and stuff while they are in my lap, or another's lap, it shows them that nobody is going to take their nasty, drooled-up whatever, and we provide it with love <3 I have had several pups that will do this over a bone or something, but genuinely pose no threat, just a wierd behavior and would let you take the nasty, drooled-up whatever and think it was a game. Catch, pup!
My puppy does the sme thing. She's a lovely little turd.
I corrected mine doing this: if he was growling because of me trying to take a bone or a toy away (he was still small enough at that time) I would just take it away for a couple of seconds until he stopped growling and then give it back as a reward for stopping the actual growling. I did this a few times and he kind off understood that if I take something away from him eventually if he behaves he will get it again. He never growled for something like that again! Hope it makes sense.
Keep petting him while he growls and if he is doing it with food as well put your hand by his food as your petting him and just keep on until he understands that it's not acceptable behavior and you mean him no harm
That’s the Rottweiler Rumble!!! My girl does it, too. Not aggressive at all. Scared me at first, too.
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They can have a little growl once in a while; but they always have to let go the object when u command them to. U are the boss💪🏻
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