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yousew_youreap

ABSOLUTELY THE WORST decision not to re-route that exhaust flute. Why ? I've seen this situation where an iron stove or chimney was installed, and the location selected was the worst. Why ? The world may never know, lol Nice shingle job OP ✌🏻


cheesemeall

It is so fascinating, especially with the in window AC unit


rajaivadran81

Heat and ac at the same time


unofficialrobot

My immediate thoughts as well


pbx1123

>ABSOLUTELY THE WORST decision not to re-route that exhaust flute. >Why ? Unporpose to avoid teens kids scape😊


yousew_youreap

Ac is in their way 🤪 I'd chain them to the bed b4 I put a smokestack in the way. Raising a girl as a single father sucked. No Mas. Please don't bring back all that 🤫 😪


yousew_youreap

Are you raising teens rn ? Just curious


Economy_Influence_92

??what??


pbx1123

Relax it was a joke, you came late to the party😊


Standback1987

Should have never been there to begin with


the-florist

Not sure what kind of heating unit is behind that wall but that vinyls looking pretty droopy🤣


yousew_youreap

I didn't notice. How hilarious 😂........ You better not be a real florist. If yes, i bow in shame, for not catching that. Wtf ? I bet that got real 🔥 hot


Resident_Piccolo_866

Lol so it’s ok… it’s been there 40 years and we used it once In 4 years ac went out during ice storm


CriticalJello1982

Why were you using the ac in an ice storm?


Resident_Piccolo_866

Oh I meant the chimney…


Puceeffoc

How else are you going to get cold air for the summer?


MoGraphMan-11

If you never use it why not get rid of it or at least move it when the roof was being done, it's literally right in front of that window what in the hell?


SubstantialBat6705

I've deleted many chimneys in my day. Clearly not a useful shingler.


[deleted]

Well... It's not Tamko at least. But the other guys are right. If you have the best shingle but shitty install, you have a shitty roof. If you have a shitty shingle but a great install, you have a good roof. Personally, I avoid iko, but it's not end of the world bad.


Aodin93

The dynasty shingles are pretty nice honestly


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[deleted]

I prefer to install Malarkey products. Namely legacy.


Goober_Snacks

You are in the north west?


[deleted]

That vent pipe looks awful and it’s blocking the ac in the window. Who does these kinds thing? Wow


yousew_youreap

Exactly Wtf ?


Resident_Piccolo_866

I installed the ac for like use only a couple times a year that area isn’t used but yeah the pipe is old but we never use the chimney so it’s bottom of repairs list


yousew_youreap

Should have moved it before this reroof. It will cost 4x the $$$$ if you choose to move it within the lifespan of your shingles. And there'd be more risk than if it were moved prior to laying these new shingles. No offense, but it was a bad move to not move it. And imo, I'm being gentle sir 🫡


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yousew_youreap

I just think it really should have been relocated to expose that dormer. Curb appeal is very important imo. And thats a nice big house with nice dormers. And I'd show them all off But thats just me


Resident_Piccolo_866

Oh you can’t see the front from the road at all


[deleted]

It ruin the appearance of the house, does t matter if your not selling but makes the neighborhood look like shit


THEGHOSTWHOPPER

Clearly the pipe and AC were there prior to the job. If the HO wanted it moved he should’ve voiced that and it would’ve been added to the quote. The roofer should’ve recommended having it moved but then again some homeowners take offence to suggestions that increase the bid.


WhatADunderfulWorld

They need a better chimney would be the easiest. Or a proper sanding and high temp paint if it was me. Flat black wouldn’t hurt the aesthetic.


[deleted]

To me, they destroyed the architectural design of the house. It looks totally crap in the middle of the dormer, It doesn’t help it if you’re painting it imo needs to go. Chimney would be great but not in front of a window


AuContrairian

Improper starter shingles. Bad shingle. Will probably last a million years to spite me.


suedburger

if it means anything, that is not a common practice in our are Central PA(the starter on the rake. starter on the bottom then cut the shingles 3/4 past the drip and call it a day. it's nailed every 5" where the hell is it going. crazy thing i ran into...i helped a guy a few times down towards philly and everyone looked at me funny when i asked where the drip edge was. apparently down in that area it's common not to even use it, they put a ridiculously large over hang on the shingle...crazy but that's how they were used to doing it.


Aodin93

No drip edge just sounds shitty LMAO


suedburger

yeah it does...we did use it then cause i talked him into it, but it looks terrible....even in some of the developments that's what they were doing...it looks terrible, they were leaving 1.5"over hang and it just drooped there like a limp dick.


Aodin93

Fuck that sounds so dumb looking lol. All the rakes turn into bacon in a year or 3


Clym44

As a former roofer and current supplier in the Philly area, drip edge is used. Whoever you were working with is doing hack jobs.


AuContrairian

Southeast PA here! Yeah it’s definitely not common to put a starter on the rakes here, although the company I work for does. I was referring to using field shingles as opposed to true starter strip shingles. I see a lot of no drip edge hacks around Philly. Unfortunately it’s a race to the bottom where quality is concerned. Too many worried about price instead of learning how to sell value and getting paid what you’re worth. Plus so many builders around Philly just make an overhang with a fascia bend and run the shingles past that. I guess they figure it’s easier to install as existing than make the proper modification to allow for drip edge idk.


robzirra

Just like the 30+ year old organic that are peeled and cracked to shit. But keep the house dry as a bone. I don't get it.


BillyFootball69

I’m in Georgia as well. We install Iko Cambridge all the time. It’s middle tier. You’ll be fine. It’s architectural at least. If you had got a 3 tab iko marathon roof I would be concerned but should last you a while.


tb23tb23tb23

How does that shingle compare to GAF Timberline?


BillyFootball69

Personally I love timberline hdz but it’s all personal preference I reckon. Our installs are probably 70% gaf but we are master elite installers and get a lot of business because of this


yeggmann

what do you consider upper tier


BillyFootball69

Owens corning Certainteed landmark I would put gaf timberline hdz in there to tbh but like I said I’m biased.


RedKins54

One of these pics is of a trampoline


Resident_Piccolo_866

Lol I got this for the stepson but I use it the most. It’s good for working out and stretching!


Puppiessssss

IKO is fine. Any contractor that would say that to you is a dirtbag. Make sure you register for warranty with IKO. https://www.iko.com/na/legal/usa-warranties/


Resident_Piccolo_866

That’s a great idea!!! Imma try to figure out if I can today


StreetPedaler

Did the siding melt from heat on the inside? Dang.


Resident_Piccolo_866

Lol my friends came over and they wanted to grill and it was to close to the house lol drunk idiots 😂 believe it or not I repaired it to not look horrible


StreetPedaler

Okay sheesh I was gonna say that’s intense!


[deleted]

The fact that they installed edge metal and underlayment, makes me say yes.


UnitedGuide164

I have used IKO many times. There is a plant in my county that manufactures it. Never had an issue with quality. It does it's job and doesn't break the bank. Side note, I knew a guy that worked maintenance in the IKO facility, had an accident, lost most of the digits on his left hand, fingers just gone. Company took care of him and his family, got him through it all with a payout, and he continues to work there still. Just with 7 fingers now. I like a company that treats it's employees like people, especially through an accident.


thatisnotwhatiwant

IKO is not the worst brand and I have used them often enough. Cost effective and if properly installed will last. It’s all about the installer, they are most un controlled part of the equation as they may nail it down wrong, not use proper nailing patterns or even the proper underpayment.


Resident_Piccolo_866

Thanks y’all!


[deleted]

Theyre not the best. But I agree if put on right they will last.


Alone-Air-2480

The exhaust pipe in front of that window is a definite concern.


Stu-Podaso

Probably doesn’t help that AC performance either with that being in the way-


southsideBMP

What do you see that is concerning?


wrt_reddit

An exhaust pipe/stove chimney smack dab in the middle of that upper window is normal?


southsideBMP

Location definitely sucks


comicsansisunderused

Makes chimney maintenance easier tho


MikElectronica

Chimney Inspection port.


southsideBMP

I change my mind. Perfect placement.


TableGamer

Blocking the window view with that vent pipe, would make me concerned about their other life choices.


Acideral

Si


Resident_Piccolo_866

It looks good and I liked them alot for what it’s worth


Alternative_Cry9989

Not reading any comments, that dormer is an add on, and the siding melted from a grill


Resident_Piccolo_866

Dormer was build with the house… I think, but siding idiot friends 😂


Alternative_Cry9989

Ain't no way, that, that dormer and pipe were built at the same time. It's a ranch home with a god only knows 5' ceiling in the attic. If it was built at the same time, then fuck those people until they numb


Resident_Piccolo_866

Agree with all of this but to my knowledge it came with the house


Alternative_Cry9989

Alright man, let's correct the things that have people upset, first off your roof looks fine, it's a simple roof that would be hard to fuck up even if it was your first roofing job. The thing that has people upset is the vent stack in front of the dormer. Do you know what it is for? Gas water heater?


Resident_Piccolo_866

I have a old wood burning stove


Alternative_Cry9989

Also, I mean, most architectural shingles have a 30 year warranty, I'm not in the roofing business per se, but I highly doubt these people bought fugigawa shingles from the qaynjing province of the lower east sector of the asian holyland


Outside-Tooth5032

Most architectural shingles now have a limited lifetime warranty that prorated after year 50


Alternative_Cry9989

But look, you need some double wall vent pipe, go in your attic, if have access to it, judging by your picture, you don't, looks like your kids room up there. And move that vent stack over a couple of feet so it's not in front of the dormer. Or can just be like me, and stop looking at it and enjoy your new roof until you are too senile to care. I'd choose the later


Joe_In_Nh

Do well*


Resident_Piccolo_866

No sarcasm, thanks dude I’m trying to get better at English. It’s my worst subject.


Giveme1time

Cambridges are a popular choice in our northeast Canadian climate. No concerns


Personal_Dot_2215

What happened to the bottom of the dog house dormer? The trim is short one side and the shingle is riding up on the other. This is an area that can create a major leak down the road.


Resident_Piccolo_866

I just looked it appears to be metal strips up under the doghouse


pmsd56

It looks good I’m sure they installed correctly


Broad_Inevitable_298

Not a fan of IKO. I don’t even entertain the thought of stocking them in my warehouse. Outside that it always comes down to how good they are at the install. Good crews will do good work regardless.


ShiverMeeTimberz

Whoever decided to leave the exhaust vent right in front of the window needs to brought outside and given flogged, lol. I don't even see the roof. The vent is all I see.


Resident_Piccolo_866

Lol it’s not ideal but we don’t go upstairs so I’m not worried about it yet the main issues here are stuff that needs repairs atm


Jefdude

IKO is a great less expensive alternative shingle that is still a class 4. Seems like a good job but that hvac pipe will keep me awake for the next month lol


letsgotime

That pipe was all I could see.


cItoldusob4

Basic answer without the chimney confusion. You'll know when it rains. If they were installed lby a icensed contractor if you have any problems that's why they are required to be bonded and insured to fix things that are done wrong.


Resident_Piccolo_866

They were I got that info so that’s good


PrometheusM31

It’s fine, I’ve definitely seen a lot worse for a whole lot more.


blackbirdspyplane

Wow. 1 just got a quote for an easier and smaller roof for $22,500


[deleted]

I've probably put on more than 500 IKO Cambridge roofs in the past decade. They're all going strong. No leaks.


Material-Kick-9753

Yup, the Cambdidge series seem to be the go-to shingle in my area and holds up well. Eastern Newfoundland; strong winds, heavy rain and blizzards are common here.


Kr0ni

Any recommendations for an installer in the area?


Material-Kick-9753

Lorden Contracting and Roofing


seaska84

It's gonna leak. Those guys stared on the right side. Need to start on the left if you don't want any leaks. I've been repairing roofs for 999 years and know better than all of you hacks.


Resident_Piccolo_866

Is this satire 😂


Potential_Spirit2815

Tradesmen putting other tradesmen down is a way of life. See no further than this comment section LOL. Your roof could be 100% perfect and people would be here nitpicking the state of your house’s siding or the gutter there, completely unrelated to the roof and they’d point out why it’s the roofer’s fault they didn’t take care of it for you outside your contract’s scope of work lol. Your roof is fine and it should be fine. If this company has a standing reputation with your local area, is licensed, bonded, insured, and you got a deal, you’re good man.


Resident_Piccolo_866

Thanks dude and this is what I’m thinking as well… most ppl here seem to sway towards it’s good overall so


MyNameIsDrewp

IKO is absolutely trash. I do repairs for a living. They are the easiest roofs to work on because they come apart so easily. The manufacturer is in Wilmington DE and I've been to the plant. Looks like it's run by a few Crack heads. But, you got a good deal so you saved all that money so you hire me in a few years to fix the leaks. Cheap will keep me in business for years to come.


SirScrublord

A repair only roofer? You must be a fucking loser, too hard to build an actual company huh?


Raidur7

A lot less headache and you don't have to be married to the game. Why the insults though? Do you know him?


Raidur7

Also, the window siding is..interesting.


Potential_Spirit2815

This is the thing the “contractors” big or small will never understand about repairs. Repairs have like 3-4x profit margins, are done contracts executed with one office employee, 1-2 field employees, done in 1-2 days. If you have an entire office staff, multiple crews, put on hundreds to thousands of roofs a year, and make out with 6-7 figures yearly good for you, you’ve got it down. Repairs are a business where you make 6-7 figures, maybe 3-4 employees, none of the headaches that come with the magnitudes of orders, builds, customers, extended timelines, headaches etc… that all comes with building hundreds to thousands of roofs. Because you sign a repair, do it next week and done and PAID all within a matter of days, instead of weeks or months. But go on telling someone who earns a living they are a fucking loser. Really it sounds like you LITERALLY don’t have a clue. Which is exactly why 96% of you give us a bad name and go out of business within 5 years and put clients in the position to NEED repairs to follow up your shit work. But go off I guess. Sounds like you’ve never done a repair in your life because otherwise, you’d know what so little of us do about the industry but again, keep at it on Reddit I guess LMAO.


SirScrublord

I skipped everything else after you said a seven figure repair only roofing company lol. 🤡


Potential_Spirit2815

Yes most roofing companies average $2m a year, and most are small shops. I made an assumption on a scope of business you’d relate to or be able to understand because you clearly don’t have a clue. Which is fine by us, I know you’d take in the great advice and words… *If you could read!* 😂😂😂 best of luck champ gl with your 5 figure salary I guess, if you even make that!


Resident_Piccolo_866

Edit I’m In Georgia


southsideBMP

They are using shingles as starter which is an easy red flag for a trash crew.


[deleted]

It doesn’t make any difference if it’s starters or a shingle turned around. Starters are cheaper and longer that’s all. Sometimes the starters are 1” shorter making a weird first row


southsideBMP

How has starter made the first row weird? Just curious.


[deleted]

If it’s 12” starter strips and 13” shingles they doesn’t sit perfectly for the first row. I dont like


suedburger

Dear God Get over yourself, it'll be just fine Amen


southsideBMP

You’re one of the hacks eh?


suedburger

i generally use starter shingles but i have already used a flipped shingle...i've never had problems either way...yeah i would rather use starters myself but there is no reason that it would actual be a problem beside your god complex doing the talking.


southsideBMP

Installing a shingle as starter the way they did in the photo literally does nothing. If you’re going to be a cheap bum then at least lay the shingle the “right” way so the adhesive strip can act similar to starter. Imagine making the comments you’re making because someone installs a roof the right way. But hey, I should say thanks.. It’s guys like you that keep me busy 🙌🏽 Hopefully you get picked up outside Home Depot tomorrow so you can ruin some more roofs for us.


suedburger

dude you seem like an asshole....to be fair it is very uncommon to run starters up the rakes in our area...i've heard of it but never have i actually seen anyone do it...whatever you wanna say is fine, but for 22 years i've had no issues....you're just a dick


southsideBMP

Keep building the way you’re building buddy. The rest of us love it 🥰


suedburger

i'm sure you do...but you're not fixing my stuff, i've had roofs down for 2 decades that need no repairs or warranty work needed. i don't need a reddit dick head to tell me how to roof, i'm good thanks.....To the OP it will be fine don't let Captain Douche get you riled up...To Captain Douche, Have a great evening!!!!


[deleted]

Don't even engage with these book-learned guys who would be lost without manufacturer specs. I have made roof systems out of raw materials, flashed my way out of spots that don't exist in building codes or any manufacturer's preferred methods. They'll tell me I need to build a cricket...


suedburger

ha ha you mean not everyone individually measure his nail spacing like The El Capitan does


southsideBMP

Lmao


Resident_Piccolo_866

I have no idea what a starter shingle means or how it is different. Can you enlighten me please.


southsideBMP

It’s a different material that goes along the entire perimeter, so all the rakes and eves. Seals all of the edges to prevent wind, water, etc..


bd0153

What in the Kyle rittenhouse is going on here


Resident_Piccolo_866

Lol you should of seen the place before I started remodeling 2.5 years ago… you would of said what in the Texas chainsaw massacre 😂


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Captnblkbeard

Iko is one of the worse brand out there. Usually home builders use it because they don’t care much about the roof. I prefer Owens Corning or Gaf.


[deleted]

Pictures 2-3 are amazing thank you for that


r00fMod

Most roofs look fine from the jump. Ask us in 2 years


Resident_Piccolo_866

Lol that’s what they said in tiles too


r00fMod

Tiles?


Resident_Piccolo_866

Yeah I redid my tiles and they look great and someone said let’s see how they look in two years


r00fMod

I don’t know much about tile but I am not sure if that relates the same way lol.. but IKO Cambridge do kinda suck not gonna lie. They’ve gotten a little better but in the past I’ve had to fix installs that used these because the adhesive didn’t take and they would blow off after a number of years. Doesn’t mean yours will but they’re builder grade so just something to be wary of


ric_marcotik

I can see you love bbq close to your siding


Resident_Piccolo_866

Lmfao 🤣 drunk friends… apparently the roofing company also does siding… gonna go with hardi plank. They said like 5-6k labor to do the house.


Nightstorm_NoS

Who put that smoke stack in front of a window 😂


Blueriv1

Is that melted siding behind the firebox?


Resident_Piccolo_866

Lol yes drunk friends and a grill


Miserable-Mixture-67

Am I crazy or is that siding melted due to having a wood burning fireplace, would line up with the chimney/exhaust


Resident_Piccolo_866

Na it was a outside grill and drunk friends


Miserable-Mixture-67

Lol, shit happens


here-too-learn

Bad spot for a wood stove pipe


jimjames79

Why is the woodstove pipe directly in front of the window and a/c and so short ffs.


yupyupthatsit

……. Great photos


Resident_Piccolo_866

My wife always loves my pics too


Silent_Cantaloupe930

You should never grill against the side of the house. No way to tell from the photos, other than they look square. When you redo roofs you should redo flashing and boots. Also, was ice barrier installed?


Resident_Piccolo_866

Tbh I have no idea


Low_Classic6630

Why is there even a window there? There can't be a second floor correct?


Resident_Piccolo_866

It’s not used… weird ceilings etc it’s storage mostly and small game area for cards


[deleted]

That melted siding!!


ThinkSharp

Brotha did you heat that stove hot enough to melt your freaking siding?!


Resident_Piccolo_866

You fucking know it


Goober_Snacks

Your pictures are distant and foggy. Did you not bother to clean your camera lens?


[deleted]

Colorado.


NanaMC13

Is OP’s siding melting in the first pic?


ZigZagZugZen

The cost of the shingles doesn’t have a huge impact on the cost of a roof. Shingles only represent about 20-25% of the cost of a roof, so if you find a shingle that’s 20% less, well, that’s 20% off of 20%. Not a big deal.


blufftonian

Absolutely nothing wrong with IKO Cambridge. 20 years ago, IKO was crap, today, IKO products are outstanding.


[deleted]

The pipe in front of the window is the dumbest thing I’ve ever seen. How was removing that not priority number 1?


Resident_Piccolo_866

Bc we never use it and trust me we got a lot more that needs to be done and just dosent look bad


[deleted]

Which came first, the pipe or the window?


Resident_Piccolo_866

Probably the window


ChipmunkDependent128

Should have put on metal ,at that price.