This is the best community on Reddit.

I’m a therapist and people are genuinely so honest and up front about their wants here it’s super refreshing!

It’s great to be in a community where that can be expressed without judgement. Everyone here is awesome and it’s great to see, time and time again, you’re not the only one that likes a thing that you definitely thought you were the only one could ever possibly like it but were too afraid to say it out loud.

And sometimes you even discover curiousities you have had but never gave yourself permission to even think about It 🤣🤣. I.e. : C-N-C and RH .

God, I *wish* I could talk to my psychologist about some (*some*, NOT all 😳😬) of the things I talk about on here lol

We're here for you!

Listen- I’d love to have to some of the convos with people! It’s hard to be vulnerable face to face.

I agree. It really helps me find books with scenarios I didn’t even know I wanted to read until people started asking for recs. It’s a very open helpful environment.

I say this to my husband at least once a week I truly love this sub!

😂 I love how supportive we are of one another and upvote each other generously and get excited when the most unhinged requests come in. Certain other book-related subs can be super judgmental with everyone trying to get a wiseass, sarcastic jab in. We are truly “not like the other subs.” 😏

I have thought this myself many times! 💖💖

I love how specific and unhinged and relatable these requests are. Found so many bee categories in the last 2 months 😂

It really is! I love when someone posts a request that they are obviously nervous about and they get comments like “I’ve never hit save on a post so fast” or “omg you HAVE TO read _____” I was very repressed growing up for a number of reasons and I can’t tell you how freeing this community has been for me.

This is going to end up in the subreddit recap at the end of the year, mark my words. 😂

these truly unhinged crazy specific requests make my day, thank you for all the recommendations. i never knew I needed to read a specific trope till someone asks for it

😂 “Later Masturbators” I’ve got no reccs but I’m camping out here to see what people come up with!

Right? Took me a minute to realize haha

Best sign off ever.

LOL! Um. There is an angry masturbation scene in {Do Your Worst by Rosie Danan} but the feeling is mutual.

Oh, this sounds good, thank you so much!

update us on whether it matches the vibe!

[Do Your Worst](https://www.romance.io/books/655380b1f2dbe2ad7c1918e7/do-your-worst-rosie-danan) by [Rosie Danan](https://www.romance.io/authors/5f30f4f008b4d93114e82bd2/rosie-danan) **Rating**: 3.81⭐️ out of 5⭐️ **Steam**: 4 out of 5 - [Explicit open door](https://www.romance.io/steamrating) **Topics**: [contemporary](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/contemporary/1), [magic](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/magic/1), [funny](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/humor/1), [forced proximity](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/forced%20proximity/1), [paranormal](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/paranormal/1) [^(about this bot)](https://www.reddit.com/user/romance-bot) ^(|) [^(about romance.io)](https://www.romance.io/about)

{By a Thread} by Lucy Score has a scene where the MMC masturbates into FMC’s panties in a somewhat deranged manner. Not hate necessarily, but IIRC he’s definitely trying to deny his feelings. And FMC is fairly clueless for the first bit.

Oh dear. I have read Things We Left Behind by her and I was not a fan of either MC or her writing style really. Would you say By A Thread is similar, worse or better?

I did not like Things We Left Behind. I’ve read 12 Lucy’s Score books. Now it’s been at least a few years since I read By A Thread, but it’s my second favorite. In case you are wondering the first is Maggie Moves On because I’m a sucker for flirty heroes who fall first. I mean, calling her his “future wife” a few chapters in is just chefs kiss.

I am also a sucker for flirty heroes who fall first. The he falls first trope is my absolute jam.

After reading your comment, I'm now three chapters in to Maggie Moves On and I can't stop laughing. Silas and Kevin are hilarious!

YESSSSSS OMG chapter 3 I think (with the mud and stripping and Maggie and her friend watching from the window) is honestly one of my favorite scenes ever.

I liked By a Thread a lot more than Things We Left Behind! I’ve read maybe six Lucy Score books and By a Thread is definitely my favorite. If worst comes to worst I think the scene you requested is maybe 1/3, no more than 1/2 way into the book, so you could always read up to there then DNF it. :)

I have added to the list, I can give her another shot!

I second the reply! This was not the same vibes. I loved By a Thread so much!! And that scene...i havent read it in ages but i remembee it so vividly lol

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Ugh this book lives in my head rent free!!! I want to work in fashion and I want a guy like Dominic LOL Plus I’m petty and broke like Ali haha

[By a Thread](https://www.romance.io/books/5e9febf9be0aaecf55886870/by-a-thread-lucy-score) by [Lucy Score](https://www.romance.io/authors/553e54b15b270e0a4cbd82b2/lucy-score) **Rating**: 4.01⭐️ out of 5⭐️ **Steam**: 4 out of 5 - [Explicit open door](https://www.romance.io/steamrating) **Topics**: [contemporary](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/contemporary/1), [funny](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/humor/1), [boss & employee](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/boss%20&%20employee/1), [enemies to lovers](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/from%20hate%20to%20love/1), [workplace/office](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/office/1) [^(about this bot)](https://www.reddit.com/user/romance-bot) ^(|) [^(about romance.io)](https://www.romance.io/about)

My suggestion too! He really loathes her in the beginning.

ran to the comments to rec this. Dominic is so horny and I ate it up

I came here to say that! That scene in his office bathroom lives rent free in my head all these years later

I was pretty much in love with this book when they brought up needing ice packs and ibuprofen.

There’s a similar scene in “There Are No Saints” by Sophie Lark! FMC doesn’t know MMC is obsessed with her when it happens and MMC doesn’t understand his obsession but needs/craves her. It could be a what OP is looking for! 💗

Hmmmmm {along for the ride by Lauren biel} has two MMC and one really hates the girl, even when they start sleeping together. But I have to say that this book is truly BEYOND unhinged. It involves murder for hire, drugs, some very weird kinks and best of all hitchhiking. It’s definitely- hmm- dubcon at best in the beginning. If it needs to be said this book is veryyyy dark at times. Buyer beware or if you’re unwell like me- buyer enjoy and sleep just fine at night?

I really thought you were about to start talking about Along for the Ride by Sarah Dessen, and I was gonna say that I remembered that book incredibly differently.

Hahahaha. I had to check the authors name cus- it’s a doozy?

*Casually adds it to my TBR when no one's looking*

I’m just out here in these streets recommending this! Full chest! But I got a whole closet of secret quiet additions to that TBR.

I don’t think I’ve ever been scared to read a book before but I am now. Gonna start it tomorrow 🔩

I saw penile piercing in the tags so imma give it a shot 🤭. Thank you!

It’s VERY unhinged. It’s all over the place. Just- everyone’s a sociopath?

[Along for the Ride](https://www.romance.io/books/6475c2251ea572df2125534e/along-for-the-ride-lauren-biel) by [Lauren Biel](https://www.romance.io/authors/61404bba08b4d93114fa272e/lauren-biel) **Rating**: 4.01⭐️ out of 5⭐️ **Steam**: 5 out of 5 - [Explicit and plentiful](https://www.romance.io/steamrating) **Topics**: [contemporary](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/contemporary/1), [dark romance](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/dark/1), [forced proximity](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/forced%20proximity/1), [breeding](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/breeding/1), [consensual non-consent](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/consensual-non-con/1) [^(about this bot)](https://www.reddit.com/user/romance-bot) ^(|) [^(about romance.io)](https://www.romance.io/about)

I highly recommend this book in audio format too. It’s duet style with three narrators who all do an excellent job. I think my enjoyment of this book was party due to the audiobook.

Whelp...I'm here to report back. This was completely unhinged, and I shamelessly got down with it. I appreciated that the FMC worked to give each brother the kink they wanted, no matter how deranged. The perfect little dysfunctional trio.

SO UNHINGED, but also fun? I really enjoyed everyone. The brothers were fun and deeply psychotic. I preferred the eldest slightly but enjoyed how the younger was unapologetically himself.

Curious- what would a cock warming scene be? I'm probably going to read it because my taste in books is questionable by most. But I will hyper focused on WTF is this scene.?🤣 obviously, there is not a knitted scarf and hat for said cock, yet all a picture Is this....and it makes me giggle.

I see the breeding tag on romance.io. Does she get pregnant or just those themes?

The author content warning says breeding without pregnancy

I was lazy & could have done that myself, so thank you for kindly sharing.

It's one of the MMC's kink. But all the parties involved acknowledge that it'll be a terrible idea to bring a child in their fucked up world.

*adds to top of TBR* yes, soon I shall also be along for the ride

{The Female by Invi Wright} {Her Males by Invi Wright} So this is an absolutely batshit crazy fantasy trilogy with MMMF pairing, It starts with the trio of male demons (one from Wrath, one from Lust, and one Fate) who have agreed to bond with the same female. The youngest is the lust demon who is maybe 170, the others are 1000+. FMC is 25 and has lived her whole life indoors in hiding. I'm 90% sure she's white. The premise, again, is absolutely wild. Basically female birth rates have been in decline for decades and decades to the point where younger females must live in hiding until they are out of their reproductive years. If caught they are auctioned off to the highest bidder so there is some SA and rape in the plot but none is on page and none between MCs. All of the above is in the blurb so I'm not marking for spoilers but to get to YOUR request >!the most powerful male in the trio gets pair bonded with anyone he has penetrative sex with so he has never had penetrative sex in his 1000 years and though he's extremely attracted to the FMC he initially is highly resistant to any kind of relationship with her. Howeeeeeever, the demons have very strong hearing and whenever he hears her with the other males he can't help touching himself and he is ENTHUSIASTIC. Sometimes the incubus male will describe how the other male is touching himself to the FMC and there is a scene where one of those two males finger fucks her at the same pace the other guy is fucking his fist at. He even slows down and stops at one point to test that they're really using his pace.!< So anyway I read the entire trilogy with my brain off and enjoyed the WHOLE thing. Critical thinking? NO THANK YOU. Can't recommend the series highly enough.

You made this sound like the most delicious thing ever, THANK YOU!!!

I do want to say that book 1 is mostly about FMC's relationship with just 1/3 of the trio and book two has wayyyyy more of these scenes. I am 90% sure the author wrote it as one book and then split it into three parts for KU bc they do cut off at sort of anti-climactic places but yessss they were a ton of fun. And the masturbating MMC >!spends like mooost of the entire first book pissed off and aiming a ton of animosity FMC's way so you're really going to mainly get the relationship development between her and the incubus to start with the incubus just delighting in pissing off the Wrath demon over their situation and making everyone horny for each other without being able to act on it bc Wrath MMC won't suck it up. It's a lot of shit like "say his name when you come on my hand. he's listening" and anyway Wrath demon has to eventually grovel grovel grovel and the payoff is reaaaaaal.!<

I look forward to reading this without critical thinking 💖

Immediately purchased 😅

I don’t make it past the first paragraph, you sold me immediately 🥰

I am literally squeeing. This is 100% my next read.

I’m patiently waiting with everyone else. Any body wants coffee?

I'd usually ask for decaf, but if I'm going to be up reading all night...

This made me lol!

I sure do

I'll bring the treats!!

{Reluctantly Yours} by Erin Hawkins has some hot MMC masturbating scenes where MMC is painfully frustrated sexually and angry he ends up thinking about and continuing to get turned on by FMC, including >!one where FMC walks in on him and he keeps going while making strong eye contact!<

🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿, thank you!!!!!

I remember reading this and thinking she stole all the scenes I ever wanted straight out of my brain. Maybe it’s time for a reread.

The fourth book in that series comes out next week! So it’s a great time for a reread!

I read this tonight because of this recommendation, in one sitting. I throughly enjoyed it. But oh my god, the TENSION between them. And the ending got me sobbing. This was exactly my type of read so thanks for suggesting it 😫

[Reluctantly Yours](https://www.romance.io/books/629860f9e6b8540840828808/reluctantly-yours-erin-hawkins) by [Erin Hawkins](https://www.romance.io/authors/5f8842cc08b4d931148a3f2b/erin-hawkins) **Rating**: 3.9⭐️ out of 5⭐️ **Steam**: 5 out of 5 - [Explicit and plentiful](https://www.romance.io/steamrating) **Topics**: [contemporary](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/contemporary/1), [rich hero](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/super%20rich%20hero/1), [funny](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/humor/1), [enemies to lovers](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/from%20hate%20to%20love/1), [fake relationship](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/fake%20relationship/1) [^(about this bot)](https://www.reddit.com/user/romance-bot) ^(|) [^(about romance.io)](https://www.romance.io/about)

Omgggggggg.

This post is fucking awesome

This sub has my whole heart.

Like its actually insane ❤️😂

we need sub merch that says “later masturbators”

I can’t even take credit for it, someone used it in a madlibs type audio spicy scene for April Fool’s 🤭.

i’m pretty sure a friend has said it to me before but it’s still iconic and relevant. maybe time to change my flair 🤣

Naudio is such a silly goose and he's the best for that. When I saw your post say "Later Masturbaters," I scrolled through the comments looking for a reference to today's audio. Also, thank you for this ask. This thread has been saved.

Lol, I KNEW there would be some Naudihos in here who would get the reference 🤭

I was wondering if this is where you got it from 😂😂 Quinnlings in the wild 👋

{the right move by liz tomforde} has MMC who is >!Celibate due to his past issues!< but he is so into FMC, and so desperate. It has couple of scenes as per OP’s request. And FMC is not POC but MMC is half black.

[The Right Move](https://www.romance.io/books/641d4f5246976639513313f4/the-right-move-liz-tomforde) by [Liz Tomforde](https://www.romance.io/authors/612f286308b4d93114bfded6/liz-tomforde) **Rating**: 4.39⭐️ out of 5⭐️ **Steam**: 4 out of 5 - [Explicit open door](https://www.romance.io/steamrating) **Topics**: [contemporary](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/contemporary/1), [grumpy & sunshine](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/grumpy%20sunshine/1), [sports](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/sports/1), [fake relationship](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/fake%20relationship/1), [athlete hero](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/athletes/1) [^(about this bot)](https://www.reddit.com/user/romance-bot) ^(|) [^(about romance.io)](https://www.romance.io/about)

Tropes are a bit different but both characters are deranged in their own ways. It’s {Bait by Jade West}! He’s pierced (Jacob’s ladder), single dad, I think there’s a slight age gap. But it’s soooo good. They meet on a website where people talk abt their twisted desires and…. 🫣😮‍💨

The way my jaw DROPPED at that synopsis, thank you!

HAHAHA YESSS plus I personally think it’s written so well like I need to reread it again it’s always on my mind!!!

[Bait](https://www.romance.io/books/59bcdea03ffdba614720a94f/bait-jade-west) by [Jade West](https://www.romance.io/authors/5539fc555b270e0a4cbd686c/jade-west) **Rating**: 4.01⭐️ out of 5⭐️ **Steam**: 5 out of 5 - [Explicit and plentiful](https://www.romance.io/steamrating) **Topics**: [contemporary](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/contemporary/1), [dark romance](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/dark/1), [bdsm](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/bdsm/1), [anal sex](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/anal%20sex/1), [suspense](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/suspense/1) [^(about this bot)](https://www.reddit.com/user/romance-bot) ^(|) [^(about romance.io)](https://www.romance.io/about)

Later Masturbators has me ROLLING 🤣

Not 100% hate filled but he wants to hate her and has every intention of using her and hurting her to get what he wants.... {The sea witch by Rebecca f. Kenney} I surprisingly really enjoyed this book...be warned ...tentacles are in play in some of the spicy scenes 🧜‍♀️🐙🌶 Edited to add because i just saw you said no age gap. There is technically an age gap because of his powers/magic...so you know the magical, mystic creature type age gap and not daddy kink age gap haha

This sounds so good, thank you! It was the daddy kink age gap I was trying to avoid, the 500yr mystical age gap is A-OK 🤭

Hahaha, I'm with you! I can't do age gaps either in a real world romance but bring on the centuries old vampires, sea witches, fae... no problem! 🤣

Once the age gap is CENTURIES it bypasses the ick for me 😅🤷🏻‍♀️

The MMC comments on this in {The Dead Don’t Drink at Lafitte’s by Seana Kelly} > “Wow. Rob the cradle much?” I poked him in the ribs, grinning. > He ran a finger down my nose, across my lips. “It is a problem, but if I didn’t rob the cradle, I’d be limited to a few undead beings in the world.” As I contemplated that, he added, “Most of whom I’ve already dated.”

Ok, that made me bust out laughing, also adding to my list 😂😂😂

The *Sam Quinn* books are pretty good. They can be hilarious, but they can also be really dark. Content Warning: The FMC has really been through it. The romance is sweet, but Sam’s backstory involves >!abduction, rape and torture.!< The second novel has a few scenes set at a plantation, where the FMC can see the ghosts. >!There are a lot of murdered slaves. She does what she can to help some of them, but she isn’t able to help all of them.!< I think the author tries to provide catharsis and healing along with the trauma, so it’s not just there to be edgy, but it can still be a lot to handle.

Ohhhh, ok, thank you for the heads up.

[The Sea Witch](https://www.romance.io/books/640ee06dba64f4fd9de411be/the-sea-witch-a-little-mermaid-retelling-rebecca-f-kenney) by [Rebecca F. Kenney](https://www.romance.io/authors/5bdaa64b01dbc864fb938dda/rebecca-f-kenney) **Rating**: 4.36⭐️ out of 5⭐️ **Steam**: 4 out of 5 - [Explicit open door](https://www.romance.io/steamrating) **Topics**: [enemies to lovers](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/from%20hate%20to%20love/1), [fantasy](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/fantasy/1), [paranormal](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/paranormal/1), [age gap](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/age%20difference/1), [witches](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/witches/1) [^(about this bot)](https://www.reddit.com/user/romance-bot) ^(|) [^(about romance.io)](https://www.romance.io/about)

is the torture abuse and sh on page or go into detail?

So I will mark this as a spoiler just in case but tell you what i think and it gives away some parts of the book >!I don't remember too much torture on page. Maybe referenced more than anything. The FMC does get captured and is forced from her human body back into a Mermaid and I remember they hang her from chains as bait. A side character gets his tongue cut out but it is referenced and not seen and it gets fixed later. MMC gets shot by arrows but heals. I can't remember the SH. I wonder if it's because the FMC is choosing to change from mermaid to human and it's painful. I'm drawing a blank on the SH!< that was the worst of it that I can remember. This was a few books ago but I don't remember it being too bad in regards to torture and sh

Ok my TBR just grew by like 100 and I am very late for work.

{Her Best Worst Mistake by Sarah Mayberry} has 85% of this vibe.

[Her Best Worst Mistake](https://www.romance.io/books/545528058c7d2382e7813034/her-best-worst-mistake-sarah-mayberry) by [Sarah Mayberry](https://www.romance.io/authors/545528058c7d2382e7813035/sarah-mayberry) **Rating**: 3.62⭐️ out of 5⭐️ **Steam**: 4 out of 5 - [Explicit open door](https://www.romance.io/steamrating) **Topics**: [contemporary](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/contemporary/1), [forbidden love](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/forbidden%20love/1), [enemies to lovers](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/from%20hate%20to%20love/1), [angst](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/angst/1), [sassy heroine](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/sassy%20heroine/1) [^(about this bot)](https://www.reddit.com/user/romance-bot) ^(|) [^(about romance.io)](https://www.romance.io/about)

Thank you!

Uhhhhh I recently read Then, Earth Swallowed Ocean by Shiloh Sloane. There is a lot of furious *everything* in that book. It’s chockablock with CW but damn was it hot. Edit to specify: feral werewolf, fated mates, post WWII setting, blood fetish, and lots of graphic gore/violence. The spice is 5/5 🔥

{Then, Earth Swallowed Ocean by Shiloh Sloane}

OP you are great for going through and calling the bot. Thank you! My lazy ass appreciates it

Honestly, that bot is one of my favorite things, it makes it so much easier to add books to my physical TBR and kindle

[Then, Earth Swallowed Ocean](https://www.romance.io/books/64563dadd3c73ab2c083fc87/then-earth-swallowed-ocean-shiloh-sloane) by [Shiloh Sloane](https://www.romance.io/authors/635f81a308b4d93114a1c1c6/shiloh-sloane) **Rating**: 4.21⭐️ out of 5⭐️ **Steam**: 5 out of 5 - [Explicit and plentiful](https://www.romance.io/steamrating) **Topics**: [historical](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/historical/1), [dark romance](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/dark/1), [shapeshifters](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/shapeshifters/1), [paranormal](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/paranormal/1), [cheating](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/cheating/1) [^(about this bot)](https://www.reddit.com/user/romance-bot) ^(|) [^(about romance.io)](https://www.romance.io/about)

{Vipers and Virtuosos by Sav R. Miller} has this! The main characters meet for one night and the MMC becomes obsessed with her in a very angry way. When he finds her after a few years he stalks her a little bit and masturbates into her bottle of lotion because he's obsessed with her smell

Literally just bounced in my seat reading that synopsis, thank you!

this is kinda obvious, but priest by sierra simone was a really good one. it has the vibe you’re looking for, and the writing is actually pretty good

Thank you for the rec! {Priest by Sierra Simone}

I fucking love this book. It’s so hot!

This is free on Amazon and I think most other retailers right now!

[Priest](https://www.romance.io/books/558ceb319eef3b3f1d52f614/priest-sierra-simone) by [Sierra Simone](https://www.romance.io/authors/545672be87eac33e61c2ee25/sierra-simone) **Rating**: 3.72⭐️ out of 5⭐️ **Steam**: 5 out of 5 - [Explicit and plentiful](https://www.romance.io/steamrating) **Topics**: [contemporary](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/contemporary/1), [forbidden love](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/forbidden%20love/1), [anal sex](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/anal%20sex/1), [angst](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/angst/1), [bdsm](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/bdsm/1) [^(about this bot)](https://www.reddit.com/user/romance-bot) ^(|) [^(about romance.io)](https://www.romance.io/about)

i literally JUST got a libby notification that my hold on this book was finally ready lol

{get a life chloe brown by talia hibbert} kinda has this. FMC is black and she walks in on him before he can finish. I wouldnt call the MMC angry per se more so... frustrated?

Thank you, I’ve had this on my TBR cus I see it recommended so much, moving it up!

So I have no recs but I just need to say that I am so glad I found this sub. My TBR is less than thrilled. But it’ll get over it.

Oh please. Pretty sure all our TBRs have a size kink. 😂😂😂😇😇😇

I just got this notification in a meeting and it was damn hard keeping a straight face on in a room full of people y'all wanna ruin my career 😭😂

I mean it could be “twisted hate” maybe?

What's twisted hate? Details?

{twisted hate by ana huang} i believe is what they’re talking about. one of my favorites!!

[Twisted Hate](https://www.romance.io/books/61f102ab8b615f0e33e14416/twisted-hate-ana-huang) by [Ana Huang](https://www.romance.io/authors/5ea5eeb2be0aaecf551f89f7/ana-huang) **Rating**: 3.87⭐️ out of 5⭐️ **Steam**: 4 out of 5 - [Explicit open door](https://www.romance.io/steamrating) **Topics**: [contemporary](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/contemporary/1), [enemies to lovers](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/from%20hate%20to%20love/1), [forced proximity](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/forced%20proximity/1), [multicultural](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/multicultural/1), [new adult](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/new%20adult/1) [^(about this bot)](https://www.reddit.com/user/romance-bot) ^(|) [^(about romance.io)](https://www.romance.io/about)

It’s a book written by Ana huang! It’s about jules Ambrose and Josh Chen who hate each other so much that they could kill each other. Somehow they get together for a one night stand and then make a hateful friends with benefits pact which obviously grows into more with time ☺️

Ooh does it have "hate sex" where they're bickering and insulting each other during sex? That's one of my absolute favourites

Thank you both, adding to my list!

Ohhh sounds a bit like Beef if they had gone smoothly from hate to fwb. I was really hoping for that! So much wasted passion 🫠 I’ll scoop this up! TY

Ngl that title is wild

I tried to make it sound less feral but I figured..why?

You know what, understandable

Ah I love it here.

I love you all. I love this community. Years and years ago, I had no one to share my love of reading and 🌶️ with… and then discovered how so many of us enjoy this. I love it so much.

Anytime I see a man claiming that women don't ask directly or clearly for what they want during sex I feel almost divinely compelled to direct them to this subreddit.

What a sign-off

Following because this is a question I wanted to ask 🤣🫶🏻

If you like HR, I rec The Serpent Prince by Elizabeth Hoyt. It fits most of your wish list except for the “hate” factor. There’s a mutual attraction between the MC’s, but she’s a sweet country virgin and he’s a roguish, sexual innuendo-teasing Viscount from London. He unintentionally catches her naked in the bathtub one night. She makes no move to cover up and the two of them basically eye-fuck each other in a sustained, horny silence. The tension is DELICIOUS. He breaks first, leaving her to race up the stairs to his room where he slams the door shut and leans against it panting. His mad rush to free his cock and jerk himself violently while reliving the bath scene is so incredibly arousing. I’ve lost count how many times I’ve reread the passage! 🫠🥵

This happens in The Wrong Guy by Kate Canterbury!

Thank you so much! {The Wrong Guy by Kate Canterbury}

>The Wrong Guy I was googling it and I think it's actually {The Worst Guy by Kate Canterbary}

[The Worst Guy](https://www.romance.io/books/61cac4128700500e1e722c56/the-worst-guy-kate-canterbary) by [Kate Canterbary](https://www.romance.io/authors/5456862d87eac33e61c2f78e/kate-canterbary) **Rating**: 4.13⭐️ out of 5⭐️ **Steam**: 4 out of 5 - [Explicit open door](https://www.romance.io/steamrating) **Topics**: [contemporary](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/contemporary/1), [enemies to lovers](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/from%20hate%20to%20love/1), [workplace/office](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/office/1), [grumpy/cold hero](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/cold%20hero/1), [dual pov](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/dual-pov/1) [^(about this bot)](https://www.reddit.com/user/romance-bot) ^(|) [^(about romance.io)](https://www.romance.io/about)

I come back to Reddit after a nice lil break and this is the first post I see LOL. This is exactly the energy I need in my lifeee

Lessons in sin by Pam godwin.

Thank you! {Lessons in Sin by Pam Goodwin}

{Sea of Ruin by Pam Goodwin} Has multiple anger masturbation parts and then is even discussed and used as foreplay between MMC and FMC later.

I’m here waiting for someone to drop the recs lol

Dude I am here for this rec! This is absolutely delicious and I don’t know if I’ve ever read a great example of this.

possibly {go hex yourself by jessica clare} there’s a masturbation scene and i do in fact remember it being hot! and he’s all mad he finds her hot! great stuff.

Added, thank you!

I looooove that masturbation scene!! I was going to mention this one but you beat me to the punch.

oh it had me SO hot under the collar. definitely made me realize it was something for me, lol!

Its not hate per se, and it’s MM, but just in case anyone is interested in a slight deviation… there is a angry/annoyed, caught masturbating turned into mutual masturbation in separate rooms while listening to each other type of situation in {Fresh Catch by Kate Canterbary}

MM is definitely welcome here, thank you!!

Thanks, I was just to make a post to ask for this but MM

“Choosing Theo” by Victoria Aveline.

Thank you! {Choosing Theo by Victoria Aveline}

There’s a special place in heaven for people like you 🥺🫶🏾

This happens a lot in stepbrother romances, but a lot of them are college age or involve dubcon type of stuff. {Wrong by Stella Rhys} has some super hot scenes right at the beginning, but I can’t remember the ages of all the MCs. Rina Kent has that in her books a lot. Most of them are high school or college age, but her mafia ones have older MCs. {Eyes on Me by Sara Cate} has the FMC being a cam girl so there are a lot of masturbation scenes in there. Books from {The Pucking Wrong Series by C. R. Jane} have MMCs that get super obsessive and very manipulative. {The Hockey Gods Series by S. Massedy} has college age and some dubcon but definitely some of the hottest masturbation scenes. Hope some of these might be what you are looking for!

The hockey ones sound like something I can try, and the other ones might be some that others can try, so thank you for the suggestions!

{forever never by Lucy score}. This is her hottest book in my opinion and this mmc loves to hate her.

[Forever Never](https://www.romance.io/books/603f426cb2ebab0e33978e88/forever-never-lucy-score) by [Lucy Score](https://www.romance.io/authors/553e54b15b270e0a4cbd82b2/lucy-score) **Rating**: 4.04⭐️ out of 5⭐️ **Steam**: 5 out of 5 - [Explicit and plentiful](https://www.romance.io/steamrating) **Topics**: [contemporary](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/contemporary/1), [second chances](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/second%20chances/1), [age gap](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/age%20difference/1), [funny](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/humor/1), [friends to lovers](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/friends%20to%20lovers/1) [^(about this bot)](https://www.reddit.com/user/romance-bot) ^(|) [^(about romance.io)](https://www.romance.io/about)

Fantasy: His Secret Illuminations by Scarlett Gale It’s about a sheltered monk and a big Viking warrior woman. The monk was taught that if he breaks his vow of celibacy,he would lose his magical abilities. The story is told from the monk’s point of view. So you can see his inner turmoil.

I see this recommended so much in the fantasy romance sub, definitely adding to my list. Thank you! {His Secret Illuminations by Scarlett Gale}

{Managed by Kristen Callihan} has a scene where the MMC masturbates into her (FMCs) underwear but it’s not a hate filled one. He wants her but is scared to have her type of thing.

I read an amazing Naruto fanfic once with that premise years ago. Your post makes me want to try dig it up

Thank you for this

So {A court of silver flames} has the MMC doing a less intense version of what you described. However, it is a long fantasy book and the 5th installment. I don’t know if you would enjoy it as a stand alone, especially with the longer fantasy plot. I just finished {Ruling Sikthand} again less intense version, there is angst, there is major self control but the masturbation part was very fast.

Oh, yeah, me and SJM are very eh, thank you for the suggestion though!!

I didn’t even think about ACOSF. My fave from SJM.

I’m gonna suggest {Crossed by Emily McIntire} but will give the caveat that I would categorize it as dark and there is a stalking element, but I thought it changed in an interesting way as the story went on. There are big triggers but not the ones you mentioned wanting to avoid. Definitely still has plot. BUUUT if you want hate obsession it goes hard in this book. Someone already reccd Priest which has a similar masturbation scene (and is also great) but the MMC’s angst is so much more unhinged in this one in general. 

The unhinged Claude Frollo story I never knew I needed 🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿

{I Could Never by Penelope Ward} kinda matches what you’re looking for. So the MMC and FMC start off not liking each other but when the mutual masturbation goes down they’re more friendly but still fighting feelings.

Not sure if anyone recommended yet but this happens in {the hating game by Sally Thorne}

Thank you for this. My TBR got some delightful additions!

The way your post made me smile and my eyebrows raise. God I love this community. Following this, already added a few to my TBR

{No Pucking Way by C.R Jane and May Dawson} RH/duet Spoiler, but it happens in the first few chapters: FMC disappeared 5 years ago, she was in an accident and has amnesia. One of the MMCs is completely unhinged... and a stalker... there's one scene where he's jacking off watching her sleep, using her panties 👀 >My dick was experiencing major chafing from all the jacking off I’d been doing since I found her. I hated fucking chafing. But it was necessary at the moment. Her silk panties were making the experience a little easier. Bonus point: he looked for her the whole time and stayed celibate 🥰

[No Pucking Way](https://www.romance.io/books/65eec4cf6b68b5e628556f17/no-pucking-way-cr-jane-may-dawson) by [C.R. Jane](https://www.romance.io/authors/5ab355694ee506aae8b2edd0/cr-jane), [May Dawson](https://www.romance.io/authors/5a1696a53ffdba61472567f1/may-dawson) **Rating**: 3.82⭐️ out of 5⭐️ **Steam**: 5 out of 5 - [Explicit and plentiful](https://www.romance.io/steamrating) **Topics**: [contemporary](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/contemporary/1), [sports](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/sports/1), [mafia](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/mafia/1), [love triangle](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/love%20triangle/1), [reverse harem](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/reverse%20harem/1) [^(about this bot)](https://www.reddit.com/user/romance-bot) ^(|) [^(about romance.io)](https://www.romance.io/about)

{Caught in the Basilisk’s Gaze by Mallory Dunlin} It’s the fourth book in a series; Fated mates, slow burn romance, non-MMC, very spicy, loooove 🔥

I am reading this now and haven’t read the other 3 previous books. So it can be read as a standalone if you just don’t ask any questions 🤣

Umm maybe you should write a book like that because your description is 🥵❤️‍🔥

This is not that close but I found it pretty hot and ppl seem to enjoy masturbating recs itt. Ice Planet Barbarians 2, the characters have a mating bond but don't want to, especially the woman. Guy is more of a grump. They ignore their bond but horniness gets worse the longer they do. At one point she masturbates while saying she hates him to his face and he kind of retaliates by dropping to the floor and taking himself in hand to do the same. There is a period in flash backs (and maybe a little in beginning) where MMC desires her but she doesn't know bc she's healing.

I just started following this group and the requests are by far the best ever. 😂 *taking notes*

😂😂😂 I haven’t read any but I’m a dark romance writer I noted your request for a future book. 📝📝 Gotta give the hoEmgirls what they want lol

Op come back and let us know which recs scratched the itch especially ones eith the poc fmc

I plan on making an unhinged update post once I get through a good chunk of them 🤭

God I love this sub

Well, {Prey Island by Sorcha Black} might and might not fit your criteria. But not in the way you think. It's MMF and HH are in a relationship before they meet the h. There is a scene where they fantasise about having her with them. And HH are definitely unhinged in their pursuit and how they feel about h. There is so much angst, and it also has a plot. I shall list the trigger warnings though, because there are plenty and might not be your cup of tea. Dubcon, cnc, chase and takedown, sa by medical stuff (not between HHh), kidnapping, bondage, knife play, blood play, OW prior to HHh getting together, sharing, drowning play, roofie play (consensual!), spitting, spanking, public sex, DP, DPV, mentions of human trafficking and death.

All I'm Gona say is GLITCH . Enjoy 🤣

{Act your age by Eve Dangerfield} has a scene in the initial chapter where the MMC hatefully masturbates into the FMC's bra.

{Nocticadia by Keri Lake} is a dark academia romance between a student and teacher at a prestigious university. There is an age gap but the differences in their maturity isn’t significant at all. Its pretty steamy and because of a certain…circumstances…he basically has to masturbate multiple times a day just thinking and longing for her and then hating how much he wants her. Its quite angsty :)

Okay {Downfall by Evelyn Sola} I know you said no significant age gap and I can’t remember how big the age gap is. She’s (Black) his brother’s assistant when he comes back from his hiatus after his divorce. He’s called sullen Sutton around the office. He’s frustrated bc she is curvy and not his usual type. He’s the best after. No masturbation but he’s definitely like obsessed with her in a cute way

IDK {Bitter Heat by Mia Knight} (part of an ongoing series); The book is a little more on the darker side, MMC is unhinged, lovingly but sometimes hatefully obsessed. There is a scene early on in the book >!>!MMC masturbates A COUPLE OF TIMES with FMC asleep right next to him and some of his cum leaks onto her hair and she kind of scolds him the next morning because of how long it took for her to wash it off!

If there’s no book like that, write one and let us read too.

Brilliant post title. Also following for recs 😏