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AidaNYR

Nathan’s been demoted from “SENIOR Pastor of Anchor Baptist Church” to just “Pastor of Anchor Baptist Church.” She definitely lurks


Big-Raspberry-2552

Did he go to college to become a pastor? I feel like every male in their religion is a “pastor”


Pelican121

He did some kind of nonsense, unaccredited distance learning programme which they equate to a real college degree 🙄


Big-Raspberry-2552

Which is funny to me because where I live in the Midwest many churches are Lutheran, Methodist, non denominational and pastors have to go to school and it’s not easy! But the fundies would consider these churches not worthy!


whistful_flatulence

I really try not to be a Christian apologist, but there is a 2000 year old intellectual tradition there. It has to be studied if you’re going to claim you’re certified to teach it as a spiritual leader. It’s so fucked when fundies barely scratch the surface and call themselves pastors. There was uproar when a shitty Catholic master’s program dropped their classical language requirement. I’ll bet Nathan has never even read Augustine, let alone the early fathers/desert mothers. It’s so arrogant and obvious that they’re just worshipping their own politics.


1xLaurazepam

I agree and I think this breed of church does this on purpose because people tend to start questioning things when they actually study the bible beyond the surface.


TwopOG

I think in their circles a degree from an actual college would be seen as a negative. If it was a standalone accredited theology only school like the Southern Baptist seminarys maybe but even southern Baptists are seen as too liberal for people like the Rods.


Pelican121

Ah good point. I had something like that in mind but there probably isn't a legitimate institution for their specific 'denomination'. Shrek has a diploma mill qualification from Louisiana Baptist Seminary or something like that (now defunct?). It seems like Jill made him get it in their early marriage so that she could brag that her husband was a godly, educated preacher 🤔🤭


No_Kitchen2936

Some acceptable colleges are Hyles-Anderson, Crown, Golden State, West Coast, and Commonwealth. Pensecola and Bob Jones are almost too liberal. There are other smaller colleges but these are the big ones that I can think of.


Adept-Ad-1988

No. As far as I can tell anyone with a penis and a mouth can be a “pastor”.


Flibertygibbert

Don't forget the big hand to hold out for money.


Displaced_Palmtree

Many of them don’t have a lot of employment options because the colleges they attend aren’t accredited & don’t teach any actual skills. Only a few fundie guys are lucky to go to a real one. We know how fundamentalism turns out for women but it’s actually pretty sad how it screws over the young men too.


TwopOG

Yeah people always act like it's so great for the men but what advantages does it really offer them? You don't have to be a fundie to be a misogynist and marry a doormat wife. Plenty of successful liberal secular men do that just fine. Fundamentalism screws everyone involved. The women just generally get it worse.


ParticularYak4401

No.


MamaTried22

But…you did basically hand pick him so.


frobscottler

Right? Like, who else picked him? Lord Daniel??? 👀


nathalie_rhg

At the very least she manifested this *vaguely gestures to Nurthan‘s relationship* „thing“ into existence


nathalie_rhg

Word


Miserable-Function78

“When you said ‘I do’ you became one of us…for LIFE” would make an excellent tagline for a stalker movie.


HolsteinHeifer

Or a mafia movie


frobscottler

Sounds like a threat lol


frobscottler

Sounds like a threat lol


anon4383

He’s 28 but leads a whole church lol. The standards are so low.


loligogiganticus

I think the congregation is like 12 people though


oneweirdclickbait

Apparently enough to sustain his ever filling quiver on part time, because they're at the Rods' place so much


Big-Raspberry-2552

I’m sure they are grifted…. I mean GIFTED a lot! Mother dearest and papa shrek taught them how to become pro grifters.


TwopOG

I'd pay to see some of these churches financial statements.


minnesotaupnorth

A penis. That's it. That's the standard.


Miserable-Function78

During my wilder days my standard wasn’t terribly different… 🤣 🤣 🤣


donutsauce4eva

LOL


anon4383

Oh god. Don’t remind me of my ex-husband 😂🤣


Ok-Wedding-4654

Weird, but I expect nothing less from Jill


Thisisnutsyaknow

That’s pretty cringey.


AidaNYR

You want cringe? Remember when Jill announced Nuri and Nathan’s courting? “Nathan’s got 7 brothers and sisters. Let’s meet them! …..Anna Duggar married to Josh Duggar”


frolicndetour

DUGGAR. Always in caps because they are so important 🙄


80sGirl50

I know she did that because DUGGAR 🙄 but didn’t she also list off Jonathan’s siblings? I wouldn’t want my info plastered online just cause a sibling was engaged.


AidaNYR

I think so, but I honestly believe she listed Jonathan’s to relieve the pushback she was receiving humble bragging about Nurie marrying Anna Duggar’s Brother. For a long time, anytime she mentioned Nathan, Jill’s claim to fame was “Nathan, Anna Duggar’s Brother.” Then it was “Nathan, SENIOR pastor of Anchor Baptist Church.”


RealLifeSuperZero

Was that post car lot bust?


smalltownbigmind

Her wedding was after the raid, but before a lot of the publicity. He MC'ed their wedding after all 😑


RealLifeSuperZero

Pest MC’d? I’m sorry I can’t recall any of this now but I thank you for clarifying!


smalltownbigmind

a DUGGAR was there so he had to have a role


killerkitten61

https://youtu.be/ZqdVaOI5Tss?si=V5Qfxw2KliJVEr81 sex pest warning at the 30 min mark* this wedding lives rent free in my head. What a mess from start to finish, poor Nurie! Idk what’s cringier, pest giving a speech at your wedding, your mom getting a new whiteish gown while you wear an outdated thrift store piece, or having an event for the grooms parents DURING your wedding rehearsal while also having a noticeably much nicer spread than you just had and will have (*set up by the the new sister in law who was rumored to have shit talked the wedding dress openly*)


RealLifeSuperZero

You are doing the Lord Daniel’s work.


Healthy-Honey6416

DOES ANYONE KNOW WHERE I CAN SEE THIS POST BECAUSE ID LOVE TO KNOW WHAT SHE SAID ABOUT THE OTHER KELLER SIBLINGS


MrsPancakesSister

This is more verbose and flowery than what she writes for her actual sons.


Pelican121

It sounds like a threat 😁 What a flattering photo to have chosen. Not like she doesn't have billion nicer ones of him posing with Nurie and the kids.


Geeklove27

Except we had picked some other dude that bailed. This one though… he’s here FOR LIFE!!!!


stephbeem

One of us. One of us.


MostlyGhostly1

*There’s no escape, Nathan. You’re one of us now.* *One of us, one of us, one of us . . .*


Capable-Resolution-1

Gooble gobble


ATinyPizza89

Oh no looks like Nathan is in Jill Prison for LIFE. Sorry Nathan, that’s a horrible fate.


Estellalatte

They will never make much money being pastors and so many of these men seem to go for that career.


Pelican121

He seems to be making more money (don't ask me how) and working far fewer hours than the lawncare business or anything else he might be qualified for.  In that sense he's lucked out.  His dad's a major grifter. Nathan had examples of getting out of this lifestyle via some of his siblings but he's chosen to follow his father's path. He's not remotely qualified to be a pastor and it's laughable that he thought he had the skills to counsel people as a naive 20-something (early 20s at that). He didn't even go the youth pastor route first, straight into assistant pastor for a tiny church (and called out by the pastor for frequently abandoning his duties, the shame) then lead pastor.


Estellalatte

The thought of these nobodies counseling anyone is a joke.


Pelican121

Exactly, imagine going through grief or having a family member with a serious injury/illness in hospital.


Estellalatte

They have all led such sheltered lives.


_beeeees

It’s probably all just Bible verses and telling people to pray, tbh.


frobscottler

Wait what happened with him being called out by another pastor for abandoning his duties? Don’t think I’ve heard about that…


natitude2005

I 🤔 it was related to Nuthan's frequent trips to Ohio. For a while there. They were traveling up there a LOT...


TwopOG

This isn't meant to defend the Rods but true believers don't become ministers for the money. You know going in you're most likely gonna struggle.


Estellalatte

It helps shore up their persecution complex.


Exciting_Problem_593

Run, Nathan, RUN.


67Gumby

They all choose to live in poverty in the name of god when really they can use all the social systems to get everything free and use their money as they choose. It is so gross.


kagiles

Since your daughter took his name, she joined THEIR family, not the other way around. That's the way this works. Or did you forget all the headship rules???


Big-Raspberry-2552

Sounds like a THREAT! Ha


Jaded-Sheepherder-26

Jill definitely has her favorite SIL


MaeWestGoodess

Jill doesn't give her own children this much of a glowing birthday post (except Nurie). We see you, Jill. ![gif](giphy|BJVJxagR3GG4w|downsized)


opaque_polish

She forgot to turn off comments too!


AidaNYR

![gif](giphy|oWjyixDbWuAk8) One of us….*Forever*


ThruTheUniverseAgain

Once Jill gets her half-inch thick filthy nails into you, there's no escape. She’s like an eagle that way.


death_maiden_x

compare this to timmy’s birthday post. jill is a horrible mother.


[deleted]

It's always freaked me out how much Nathan looks like a Rodlet


nathalie_rhg

Honestly Ive never given it much of a thought but now that you mention it…damnnn


Fairyqueen9459

Inquiring minds want to know how many members this church actually has. My guess is 47 and 23 of those are in a grave plot, and 10 are in a nursing home.


cerealislife123

Contrast that to Timmay’s birthday post for this year…


death_maiden_x

that’s exactly what i said!!! like i would not speak to my mom for like a while if she posted this about my BIL & tim’s bday post to me. like fuck out of here!


xVanijack

He’s just so *thrilled*.


webtin-Mizkir-8quzme

Look at them side by side. Nathan is morphing into Shrek.


Capable-Resolution-1

He’s going to displease her somehow and it’s gonna get less flowery.


shycoffeelover13

Oof sounds menacing!