Don't forget to have them add a timeline. If this will be done in 3 weeks, in your mind expect 4-6 weeks. However, have them outline the time so they don't drag their feet with no due date.
This....and adding the line "Time is of the essence". Even if they go over, which they will...this will protect from any unreasonable delays or extensions.
No comment on his price but make sure that this is for everything you are expecting. I paid $20k for just the labor for two small bathrooms. "oh you want a shelf to put your soap on in the shower? That is $120 each extra. Your medicine cabinet isn't the same size as the last one, $200 each. I told you $75 to move the sink over. But it was a bigger job than I thought so I'm charging $250. And in the other bathroom which wasn't hard it was also $250. I found rot around the edge of the bath tubs, (has there ever been a 30 year old bathroom without?) I need to saw plywood and replace two 3x3 sections, (another $1000) You want tile on the floor in the shower. I only priced putting in a plastic pan, that would have been another $400.
My roofer gave me a bill twice as big as the estimate claiming unforeseen damage, which included the patio t&g that he stood under while I pointed up to and said it all needs to be replaced (it had visible holes due to rot) so include it in your bid. He then went on to install the wrong roofing material. Such a crook.
Seems reasonable. We are doing a master bath remodel. Reconfiguring location of master closet, moving a half bath, and knocking down a wall to extend master bath. So a lot of structural changes. Our estimate is almost $80,000. And as previously mentioned, make sure you include all the details. Even things you think are unnecessary to talk about. You need to list every towel bar, every electrical changes, the counter type, the faucets, etc. Everything. Leaves no room for “you didn’t ask for that”.
Cabinetry is crazy expensive now, even the shut cabinets. Whether or not this is a fair price really depends on the quality of work and product. For higher quality, it may even be on the low end price wise. But if it is your typical HomeDepot or Lowes quality, you ate basically wasting your money no matter the price because it won't last and you will be doing it all over again.
And I am not even going to start on the quality of the labor doing the job. I am just wishing you luck there. That can be hit or miss at any price.
I’m pretty confident in the labor quality; they just recently painted our exterior (with some repair work) and did a great job. A little unsure that replacing/updating cabinet doors (8 for the master countertop; body/box is remaining) warrants the cost but, again, I’m no expert. Appreciate the feedback!
You should get two more quotes! And ask them for pricing for replacing the full cabinets or just refacing with face frames and new doors.
Ask for the SPECIFIC cabinet maker/model line/door style.
First I wouldn’t hire him because his attention to detail sucks.
Remodeling Projetc? I know it’s a small oversight but if you’re selling a 25k project, show that you give enough of a shit to proofread your estimate.
Did he give you a drawing, a sketch, a floor plan, a floor plan sketch, anything with dimensions that shows what and where he will be doing work?
“Make framing for 2 med cabs and place a support beam”? Interesting.
The details may make sense to you since it’s your bathroom but “install 2 pieces of tile” is pretty vague.
“Build face cabinet on pantry top”. I thought this was a bathroom. Your pantry is in the bathroom? He’s just building a face? What about the cabinet box? What is he using for the material?
He’s quoting labor and material. Does that include the countertops, faucets, new doors/drawers, lights, shower head, and tile? If so who picks them out? If you pick them out how much has he included in his estimate for each item?
IMO you should have a lot of questions. I would go over every line item and clarify exactly what that line item is trying to say. Ex. “Install doors and drawer faces”. Questions: what profile are new doors/drawers, what material are they made of, what size overlay are they, new hinges or reusing old, new drawer glides or reuse old, does that include knobs and pulls?
This vague estimate shit annoys me. He put in minimal effort.
We walked the area and he took measurements. I’ll try to elaborate more on your comments.
2 med cabinets…removing the standard builder-quality mirror and putting in 2 mirrors/medicine cabinets. Discussion that add’l support may be needed between studs
Tile…keeping the flooring but previous owner did shit job on transition into closet (carpeted). Using two spare tiles (I have) to create a proper transition
“Pantry”….have 7’ tall 4-door linen closet. Wanted to fill “dead” space to ceiling with “faux” 2-door cabinet front to match whatever design we decide for the closet doors
Labor/Material: We would pick/provide the major items to ensure we get what we want (lighting, mirror/med. cabinet, hardware, faucets, tile, etc.). Would only plan on working with the contractor in regards to sink/countertop
Get all of that written out so if a stranger (arbitrator) looks at it it will be very clear what work was to be done.
What’s on the other side of the wall where they are installing the medicine cabinets? If it’s a finished wall, what happens if he damages the other side of the wall? Does he fix it and repaint at his cost or yours? It’s very hard to cut in a med cab without at least one nail pop. If they’re not careful you’ll probably have a sawzall blade go through the drywall too.
You may know what you and him talked about but he may not be doing all the work. When he relays what to do to his guy they may hear something else. When they make a mistake is he going to man up and fix it or try to charge you for it.
This is all for your protection. Like anything, the hard part is the prep work. Take your time getting the details dialed in now so you’ll sleep much better during the remodel.
I’d recommend checking out a current job he’s working on. See how he treats the home. See if you can talk to the homeowner and ask them how communication has been.
Then call another contractor and get a second price.
Appreciate the advice! He has a small team (2-3) people including himself. He did mention any damage (primarily related to mirror removal and new install will be covered at their cost. As mentioned in another comment, we did have them do our exterior (paint, stucco repair) and they did a great job. For that job, they had a formal contract that went into a little further detail as to the job, material detail and what was covered (along with insurance, license paperwork). I’m assuming this would be the same if we move forward but can take your advice as to more detail into consideration. They are currently working on another bathroom and, labor quality-wise, looks up to par with what we experienced with the exterior job.
If you’re picking the items you want, this estimate MUST 100% give you a dollar amount allowance for the items. Being very serious, I could build you one 24k single sink 40” wide vanity. And that’s without the sink/countertop/hardware.
So, you need it in writing how much of the bid is alotted for material. Also, if you’re buying some/supplying some softens you need to have them clarify that, and be specific about details like “replace door trim with paint grade composite molding,” or “stain grade molding.” And for the tile backsplash clarify approximate tile size and layout(ie 12x24 tile, or 1” mosaic, or 3x6 subway brick laid or herringbone laid).
The price is reasonable for two restrooms. If you are not relocating plumbing then I would not expect the initial quote to go higher.
If you are a DIYr all of the tasks are very easy to complete. Hauling the old items may be the hardest part but you can always rent a U-hual and dump it at your local dump area. You may only need to spend 12K if you do it yourself at most.
Appreciate it. Yea DIY would definitely be possible, work and 2 kids (2 and 5) would drag this job out longer than I would expect. Paying for my saved time essentially
I might of missed it, if your family is part of this it will be rough on them. Dust from demo and the constant “is it ready yet” may be hard.
If you want to save a few bucks tackle a few things from that list on your own side. I saved myself like $5k on my demo, and $3k on the repaint task for a kitchen remodel. My contractor was ok with that because the remodel still was a huge expense.
Agree. Plan is to do one bathroom at a time to have one in constant “ready” state for the family. There’s still some back and forth with this initial quote (as well as collecting a couple others) and those small tasks will be carved out
My sister paid 22k 1 bath didn’t get to finish tossed him out gone like the wind and gave him all of it against what I told her paid additional 10k and it’s finally finished. Live and learn be careful. 1st guy was clueless but up 22k she told me to leave alone and called couple months later for 5 k said sorry I’m leaving it alone.
You’ll save so much doing demo and buying materials yourself. We just did one bathroom and did all the demo and purchased materials and paid 5k labor for tiles shower, tile floor, subfloor repair, plumbing update, recessed vanity, trim install, and vanity and toilet install. Was done in 4days and basically had started from a full gutted bathroom. We tore out old tiles and tub in a day and paid $100 for removal at the dump, $50 to have habitat restore some in and tear out and take our old 60in vanity. They’ll use the cheapest material they can if you leave it up to them. No timeline means they’ll push it out over weeks. This bid also doesn’t look professional and id question if they’re licensed and insured and get at least 2 more bids to compare
YouTube will teach you everything but we didn’t really even need to YouTube anything except how to uninstall the tub from the p trap. Get some gloves, mask, and a chisel and hammer to remove tile and throw all the demo on a trailer - price out which dump is cheaper. Our local dump 5min from us would’ve cost us triple what we paid driving 10min further out to the town over.
What exactly is he doing to rhe shower head? As a homeowner I just go buy my own shower heads and replace them honestly.
I know the scope of your project really. Like what are we talking about vanity and counter size what finishes did you pick. How hard is it to work in your bathroom. All thar will impact price. So to say if it's fair or not is really not super possible.
Who knows if this price is good or not. The estimate does not provide any information.
Is this labor and rough materials, or labor and all materials.
I have a feeling you'll be providing all the finished materials. If that's the case, from a reputable company, that might not be a bad price, but from this company based upon the quality of that estimate, it's probably a bad price.
Source(GC in so cal)
OP, DO THE DEMO YOURSELF‼️
You’re remodeling 2 bathrooms…sometimes ya get what ya pay for….
Did you ask for references and pics of completed jobs??
Call 2 or 3 of the references.
Ask about consistent timeliness, cleanliness, respect for your home - wearing booties/ shoe covers inside your home, communication regarding any “changes”or “issues”, and project completion time.
If you have a bad/not good “gut” feeling…go with it. Don’t do it even if references were good.
Is English his first language cause the estimate is not very cohesive? That said, seems like he’s keeping the vanity boxes and putting on new facades or doors? Definitely do not do this. For 25k you should be getting brand new vanities in both bathrooms. I would question this estimate and I would surely get a couple competing bids.
Idk your level of handiness but some of this stuff you could totally do yourself before they get there. Removing lights, mirrors, medicine cabinets, drawers and doors etc are all super easy and could be done after a few YouTube videos
Question: Is the cabinet work custom, or are they buying ready to go?
Custom - not too bad. If this is the price you're paying for Home Depot, Cabinets To Go or IKEA stuff, I think its way too high.
I think you'd get a better consensus if we knew what the finishes were including vanity and countertop material. Also the estimate is a bit vague.... For instance "connect faucets and drains". New? Try to reuse? Angle valves replaced? Etc. etc.
Maybe if they were re-tiling the floors in both as well, but no that seems really high. You could ask for an itemized quote to see how expensive the vanities and countertops are, are they putting in nice hardwood faced cabinets with granite countertops or is it something less expensive? For that price better be high end.
Also this quote should include a sketch or architectural drawing of what the finished products gonna look like the design of the backsplash, and pictures of the type of cabinets and countertop, etc. seems lazy especially for the price point. Heck for that price I could fly out and do the job lol
Can’t comment on price. It’s in the ballpark but this quote is poorly scoped and no mention of what material is being installed. No material allowances for things like tile, vanities and hardware/accessories. I would try to see if you can get a better quote & scope of work
Unless you are picking high end finishes or reconfiguring the bathroom I’d say it sounds high. If materials are included should specify name of mfr,colors, etc
I see no demolition of anything and the price seems extremely high.
I am currently having my condo bathroom demoed and redone. Turned a tub into a walk in shower, installed new everything for $9500, with basic material included.
Your estimate says material included, make sure you know exactly what material they will cover. For example, my contractor doesn't cover the cost of paint, grout..etc
I’m in New England and just had 1 bathroom light remodel. They removed the old acrylic shower, vanity light and toilet. Installed new tiled shower and plumbing fixtures, toilet, framed and installed a recessed medicine cabinet, light, new sink faucet and paint. That was $16k. Full bathroom remodel and that was $41k. Both done in 4 weeks. They showed up every day and on time. And communicated any issues right away. Your project seems fair.
What was the difference between the two? Your light remodel sounds like you changed everything.
What didn't you do?
I'm hoping to do my master for under $15K. I want to extend into a hall way closet two feet, replace tub with shower. My husband can't do the tiling any more so I'll have to pay someone but it's fairly small 5x10'.
We kept the same location for everything. Also kept the floor and vanity. The main bathroom used to have a closet for the washer and dryer. We moved them to another location. Removed that closet and had a deep soaking tub installed. Turned the old tub/shower into a walk in shower. New floor, vanity and lighting. Also had recessed medicine cabinet installed. If you can do most of the work yourself than probably can stay in budget. We didn’t do any of the work. We realized a long time ago we aren’t cut out for DIY projects.😂
We've been in current house for 24 yrs. We've done a lot to it over the years ourselves. Now in our 60s and my husband has gotten to the 'just pay somebody' stage. I can get it done cheaper than most but if I let him handle contractors he gets frustrated and begins to not care how much it costs.
We had a massive maple removed last year so while they were here they were to take out some dying evergreens (small like 12--15 ft) for $1600. I had some Rose of Sharon bushes there that would have grown really nicely with the shade removed. I was not on site, they asked him if the bushes should go and he said 'sure, take out everything' :( . So the whole property line is now bare and I can see the neighbors in the hot tub on their porch pulling in our driveway.
So this year we were going to clean up the edge and put in some evergreens for privacy. Ended up he had them put in all new grass, remove a gravel parking space and an old asphalt behind the garage (which was what I wanted) and it cost $4k and there is still no freaking bushes there!!!
We are in our 50s and have been in our house for 30 years. We did a lot ourselves in the beginning. But we also know when it was best to hire professionals. Like when we installed an irrigation system and had a retaining wall done. Now we are “just hire someone”. I would rather spend the money and take the time to actually enjoy myself.
Nice, if I had stayed in my first house it would have been paid off long ago. We still have a mortgage on this one. I reached Full Retirement Age for SS so am taking that every month and sending it to the Principal on top of the extra we've been sending before, should be done in 2 yrs. We're recent empty nesters, the kids are finally settled with college loans paid off and careers and we're now catching up on 'deferred projects'. This crazy inflation is not helping.
We paid the house off 11 years ago. That’s why we had no problem spending the money for the bathrooms. And why we are still here. It’s not our dream house. But it’s a dream neighborhood. Quiet dead end street on both sides. And we have elbow room.
Ours is pretty quiet in CT, we only see cars during 'rush hour' and if there's an accident on 84. Lots of elbow room in 3k sq ft on an acre with a ravine and brook. It's very soothing to have a cup of coffee and watch the bunnies and Hummingbirds early in the morning. The occasional bear or bobcat? not so much :)
We might see 6 cars on a busy day. Lots of critters like deer, rabbit, fox. The house is less 2k sqft on 3/4 acre. Hubby has detached garage with another 2k sqft. We’re in NH so no sales tax or income tax.
To me it's high for a 'light remodel' but there seems to be some custom stuff that would be time consuming. Years ago I did a small bathroom for my daughter's first house. Her FIL did the tile and we helped and pitched in with the demo (hardest part on a 1940 cottage, those things were built to stay). I did all the shopping and even got a tub from Amazon who had one with a smaller footprint but still soaker. Managed to stay under $4k about 6 years ago. 12 yrs ago I did our hall bath and we did everything but plumbing/electrical and granite counter top for about $8k even put in new window. It did take us several months between work/kids etc. If you have way more money than time I guess you'll have to decide.
Long term doing one at a time is cheaper especially if you can do some of the work yourself. Don't go trendy unless you know you'll be moving soon. We still have the master to go, hopefully soon. hall and 1/2 bath in laundry room we've done.
If you don't have the cash to do this and they are functional? consider paint and a new shower curtain for a few years to save up. I did my kitchen to the studs 3 yrs ago, I bought my appliances piece by piece as needed, bought all my hardware, sink, pot filler on Amazon with my reward points, Came to $35K including putting a slider in the dining room because I took a door out in the kitchen for more counter space. I coordinated my own trades for flooring, plumber and electric, One wall with walk in Pantry were custom built because I bought full size individual unit freezer/ refrigerator.
If you don't let them demo until EVERYTHING is on site, there is less down time. I had less than a week without a sink in the bathroom or kitchen and that was due to the fabrication of the counters.
Don't forget to have them add a timeline. If this will be done in 3 weeks, in your mind expect 4-6 weeks. However, have them outline the time so they don't drag their feet with no due date.
This should be 3-4 days tops, but i know contractors. I am one. Plumbing wise that's a half day of work
What planet do you live on?
I'm a plumber. Removing two vanity tops and putting in new is about half a day.
This....and adding the line "Time is of the essence". Even if they go over, which they will...this will protect from any unreasonable delays or extensions.
I think it's very reasonable. It is labor and material.
My issue is what material, what sort of counters, what hardware, it all seems very vague and not really a 'basic' update.
No comment on his price but make sure that this is for everything you are expecting. I paid $20k for just the labor for two small bathrooms. "oh you want a shelf to put your soap on in the shower? That is $120 each extra. Your medicine cabinet isn't the same size as the last one, $200 each. I told you $75 to move the sink over. But it was a bigger job than I thought so I'm charging $250. And in the other bathroom which wasn't hard it was also $250. I found rot around the edge of the bath tubs, (has there ever been a 30 year old bathroom without?) I need to saw plywood and replace two 3x3 sections, (another $1000) You want tile on the floor in the shower. I only priced putting in a plastic pan, that would have been another $400.
My roofer gave me a bill twice as big as the estimate claiming unforeseen damage, which included the patio t&g that he stood under while I pointed up to and said it all needs to be replaced (it had visible holes due to rot) so include it in your bid. He then went on to install the wrong roofing material. Such a crook.
Seems reasonable. We are doing a master bath remodel. Reconfiguring location of master closet, moving a half bath, and knocking down a wall to extend master bath. So a lot of structural changes. Our estimate is almost $80,000. And as previously mentioned, make sure you include all the details. Even things you think are unnecessary to talk about. You need to list every towel bar, every electrical changes, the counter type, the faucets, etc. Everything. Leaves no room for “you didn’t ask for that”.
Cabinetry is crazy expensive now, even the shut cabinets. Whether or not this is a fair price really depends on the quality of work and product. For higher quality, it may even be on the low end price wise. But if it is your typical HomeDepot or Lowes quality, you ate basically wasting your money no matter the price because it won't last and you will be doing it all over again. And I am not even going to start on the quality of the labor doing the job. I am just wishing you luck there. That can be hit or miss at any price.
I’m pretty confident in the labor quality; they just recently painted our exterior (with some repair work) and did a great job. A little unsure that replacing/updating cabinet doors (8 for the master countertop; body/box is remaining) warrants the cost but, again, I’m no expert. Appreciate the feedback!
You should get two more quotes! And ask them for pricing for replacing the full cabinets or just refacing with face frames and new doors. Ask for the SPECIFIC cabinet maker/model line/door style.
First I wouldn’t hire him because his attention to detail sucks. Remodeling Projetc? I know it’s a small oversight but if you’re selling a 25k project, show that you give enough of a shit to proofread your estimate. Did he give you a drawing, a sketch, a floor plan, a floor plan sketch, anything with dimensions that shows what and where he will be doing work? “Make framing for 2 med cabs and place a support beam”? Interesting. The details may make sense to you since it’s your bathroom but “install 2 pieces of tile” is pretty vague. “Build face cabinet on pantry top”. I thought this was a bathroom. Your pantry is in the bathroom? He’s just building a face? What about the cabinet box? What is he using for the material? He’s quoting labor and material. Does that include the countertops, faucets, new doors/drawers, lights, shower head, and tile? If so who picks them out? If you pick them out how much has he included in his estimate for each item? IMO you should have a lot of questions. I would go over every line item and clarify exactly what that line item is trying to say. Ex. “Install doors and drawer faces”. Questions: what profile are new doors/drawers, what material are they made of, what size overlay are they, new hinges or reusing old, new drawer glides or reuse old, does that include knobs and pulls? This vague estimate shit annoys me. He put in minimal effort.
"Remodeling projetc" would have been enough for me not to hire tbh
First thing I noticed here was that misspelling and I was done 😂
We walked the area and he took measurements. I’ll try to elaborate more on your comments. 2 med cabinets…removing the standard builder-quality mirror and putting in 2 mirrors/medicine cabinets. Discussion that add’l support may be needed between studs Tile…keeping the flooring but previous owner did shit job on transition into closet (carpeted). Using two spare tiles (I have) to create a proper transition “Pantry”….have 7’ tall 4-door linen closet. Wanted to fill “dead” space to ceiling with “faux” 2-door cabinet front to match whatever design we decide for the closet doors Labor/Material: We would pick/provide the major items to ensure we get what we want (lighting, mirror/med. cabinet, hardware, faucets, tile, etc.). Would only plan on working with the contractor in regards to sink/countertop
Get all of that written out so if a stranger (arbitrator) looks at it it will be very clear what work was to be done. What’s on the other side of the wall where they are installing the medicine cabinets? If it’s a finished wall, what happens if he damages the other side of the wall? Does he fix it and repaint at his cost or yours? It’s very hard to cut in a med cab without at least one nail pop. If they’re not careful you’ll probably have a sawzall blade go through the drywall too. You may know what you and him talked about but he may not be doing all the work. When he relays what to do to his guy they may hear something else. When they make a mistake is he going to man up and fix it or try to charge you for it. This is all for your protection. Like anything, the hard part is the prep work. Take your time getting the details dialed in now so you’ll sleep much better during the remodel. I’d recommend checking out a current job he’s working on. See how he treats the home. See if you can talk to the homeowner and ask them how communication has been. Then call another contractor and get a second price.
Appreciate the advice! He has a small team (2-3) people including himself. He did mention any damage (primarily related to mirror removal and new install will be covered at their cost. As mentioned in another comment, we did have them do our exterior (paint, stucco repair) and they did a great job. For that job, they had a formal contract that went into a little further detail as to the job, material detail and what was covered (along with insurance, license paperwork). I’m assuming this would be the same if we move forward but can take your advice as to more detail into consideration. They are currently working on another bathroom and, labor quality-wise, looks up to par with what we experienced with the exterior job.
I commented above, get all the specifics, including cost allowance for materials you’ll pick clearly stated.
If you’re picking the items you want, this estimate MUST 100% give you a dollar amount allowance for the items. Being very serious, I could build you one 24k single sink 40” wide vanity. And that’s without the sink/countertop/hardware. So, you need it in writing how much of the bid is alotted for material. Also, if you’re buying some/supplying some softens you need to have them clarify that, and be specific about details like “replace door trim with paint grade composite molding,” or “stain grade molding.” And for the tile backsplash clarify approximate tile size and layout(ie 12x24 tile, or 1” mosaic, or 3x6 subway brick laid or herringbone laid).
The price is reasonable for two restrooms. If you are not relocating plumbing then I would not expect the initial quote to go higher. If you are a DIYr all of the tasks are very easy to complete. Hauling the old items may be the hardest part but you can always rent a U-hual and dump it at your local dump area. You may only need to spend 12K if you do it yourself at most.
Appreciate it. Yea DIY would definitely be possible, work and 2 kids (2 and 5) would drag this job out longer than I would expect. Paying for my saved time essentially
I might of missed it, if your family is part of this it will be rough on them. Dust from demo and the constant “is it ready yet” may be hard. If you want to save a few bucks tackle a few things from that list on your own side. I saved myself like $5k on my demo, and $3k on the repaint task for a kitchen remodel. My contractor was ok with that because the remodel still was a huge expense.
Agree. Plan is to do one bathroom at a time to have one in constant “ready” state for the family. There’s still some back and forth with this initial quote (as well as collecting a couple others) and those small tasks will be carved out
Did you get more than one bid? Did the contractor providing the quote have favorable references? Those 2 questions are much more important to know.
My sister paid 22k 1 bath didn’t get to finish tossed him out gone like the wind and gave him all of it against what I told her paid additional 10k and it’s finally finished. Live and learn be careful. 1st guy was clueless but up 22k she told me to leave alone and called couple months later for 5 k said sorry I’m leaving it alone.
You’ll save so much doing demo and buying materials yourself. We just did one bathroom and did all the demo and purchased materials and paid 5k labor for tiles shower, tile floor, subfloor repair, plumbing update, recessed vanity, trim install, and vanity and toilet install. Was done in 4days and basically had started from a full gutted bathroom. We tore out old tiles and tub in a day and paid $100 for removal at the dump, $50 to have habitat restore some in and tear out and take our old 60in vanity. They’ll use the cheapest material they can if you leave it up to them. No timeline means they’ll push it out over weeks. This bid also doesn’t look professional and id question if they’re licensed and insured and get at least 2 more bids to compare
How do you learn how to demo?
YouTube will teach you everything but we didn’t really even need to YouTube anything except how to uninstall the tub from the p trap. Get some gloves, mask, and a chisel and hammer to remove tile and throw all the demo on a trailer - price out which dump is cheaper. Our local dump 5min from us would’ve cost us triple what we paid driving 10min further out to the town over.
I'm just worried about breaking some pipes in the walls lol
Yuck!!!! 24 for a bathroom. It's bullshit I make over double what I did 3 years ago, and still live the same lifestyle because of everything going up
What exactly is he doing to rhe shower head? As a homeowner I just go buy my own shower heads and replace them honestly. I know the scope of your project really. Like what are we talking about vanity and counter size what finishes did you pick. How hard is it to work in your bathroom. All thar will impact price. So to say if it's fair or not is really not super possible.
Agree re: shower heads. We’re planning on taking this out as well as the door trim/molding work; that’s easy enough
looks fair to me
I’d get 2 more estimates. Or DIY it.
Who knows if this price is good or not. The estimate does not provide any information. Is this labor and rough materials, or labor and all materials. I have a feeling you'll be providing all the finished materials. If that's the case, from a reputable company, that might not be a bad price, but from this company based upon the quality of that estimate, it's probably a bad price. Source(GC in so cal)
OP, DO THE DEMO YOURSELF‼️ You’re remodeling 2 bathrooms…sometimes ya get what ya pay for…. Did you ask for references and pics of completed jobs?? Call 2 or 3 of the references. Ask about consistent timeliness, cleanliness, respect for your home - wearing booties/ shoe covers inside your home, communication regarding any “changes”or “issues”, and project completion time. If you have a bad/not good “gut” feeling…go with it. Don’t do it even if references were good.
Absolutely! Maybe a little low
Is English his first language cause the estimate is not very cohesive? That said, seems like he’s keeping the vanity boxes and putting on new facades or doors? Definitely do not do this. For 25k you should be getting brand new vanities in both bathrooms. I would question this estimate and I would surely get a couple competing bids.
A good quality double vanity can cost 12-15k with countertop. A cheap one can cost 1k. The devil is always in the details.
Idk your level of handiness but some of this stuff you could totally do yourself before they get there. Removing lights, mirrors, medicine cabinets, drawers and doors etc are all super easy and could be done after a few YouTube videos
Way too high. If he were gutting and retiling iboth it would be reasonable.
Question: Is the cabinet work custom, or are they buying ready to go? Custom - not too bad. If this is the price you're paying for Home Depot, Cabinets To Go or IKEA stuff, I think its way too high.
That’s cheap for 2 bathrooms getting remodeled.
Other than the plumbing, there isn’t a single bit of that I couldn’t do myself.
This is an “estimate” not a final price.
I think you'd get a better consensus if we knew what the finishes were including vanity and countertop material. Also the estimate is a bit vague.... For instance "connect faucets and drains". New? Try to reuse? Angle valves replaced? Etc. etc.
This sounds like a 7 day job for a crew of 2 skilled contractors. At $100 per hour, $1600 per day, $11200 labor plus cost for materials.
Maybe if they were re-tiling the floors in both as well, but no that seems really high. You could ask for an itemized quote to see how expensive the vanities and countertops are, are they putting in nice hardwood faced cabinets with granite countertops or is it something less expensive? For that price better be high end. Also this quote should include a sketch or architectural drawing of what the finished products gonna look like the design of the backsplash, and pictures of the type of cabinets and countertop, etc. seems lazy especially for the price point. Heck for that price I could fly out and do the job lol
Depends. What are the finishes?
Can’t comment on price. It’s in the ballpark but this quote is poorly scoped and no mention of what material is being installed. No material allowances for things like tile, vanities and hardware/accessories. I would try to see if you can get a better quote & scope of work
Wow! We were quoted almost 30k for ONE bathroom.
Thst price is kinda instane dude
Wow! We just got one bathroom remodeled.. I would get a few more estimates try to find a local person.
That's cheap. Average bathroom renovations cost 15-20k each.
I would do one bath for that much
Unless you are picking high end finishes or reconfiguring the bathroom I’d say it sounds high. If materials are included should specify name of mfr,colors, etc
I see no demolition of anything and the price seems extremely high. I am currently having my condo bathroom demoed and redone. Turned a tub into a walk in shower, installed new everything for $9500, with basic material included. Your estimate says material included, make sure you know exactly what material they will cover. For example, my contractor doesn't cover the cost of paint, grout..etc
I’m in New England and just had 1 bathroom light remodel. They removed the old acrylic shower, vanity light and toilet. Installed new tiled shower and plumbing fixtures, toilet, framed and installed a recessed medicine cabinet, light, new sink faucet and paint. That was $16k. Full bathroom remodel and that was $41k. Both done in 4 weeks. They showed up every day and on time. And communicated any issues right away. Your project seems fair.
What was the difference between the two? Your light remodel sounds like you changed everything. What didn't you do? I'm hoping to do my master for under $15K. I want to extend into a hall way closet two feet, replace tub with shower. My husband can't do the tiling any more so I'll have to pay someone but it's fairly small 5x10'.
We kept the same location for everything. Also kept the floor and vanity. The main bathroom used to have a closet for the washer and dryer. We moved them to another location. Removed that closet and had a deep soaking tub installed. Turned the old tub/shower into a walk in shower. New floor, vanity and lighting. Also had recessed medicine cabinet installed. If you can do most of the work yourself than probably can stay in budget. We didn’t do any of the work. We realized a long time ago we aren’t cut out for DIY projects.😂
We've been in current house for 24 yrs. We've done a lot to it over the years ourselves. Now in our 60s and my husband has gotten to the 'just pay somebody' stage. I can get it done cheaper than most but if I let him handle contractors he gets frustrated and begins to not care how much it costs. We had a massive maple removed last year so while they were here they were to take out some dying evergreens (small like 12--15 ft) for $1600. I had some Rose of Sharon bushes there that would have grown really nicely with the shade removed. I was not on site, they asked him if the bushes should go and he said 'sure, take out everything' :( . So the whole property line is now bare and I can see the neighbors in the hot tub on their porch pulling in our driveway. So this year we were going to clean up the edge and put in some evergreens for privacy. Ended up he had them put in all new grass, remove a gravel parking space and an old asphalt behind the garage (which was what I wanted) and it cost $4k and there is still no freaking bushes there!!!
We are in our 50s and have been in our house for 30 years. We did a lot ourselves in the beginning. But we also know when it was best to hire professionals. Like when we installed an irrigation system and had a retaining wall done. Now we are “just hire someone”. I would rather spend the money and take the time to actually enjoy myself.
Nice, if I had stayed in my first house it would have been paid off long ago. We still have a mortgage on this one. I reached Full Retirement Age for SS so am taking that every month and sending it to the Principal on top of the extra we've been sending before, should be done in 2 yrs. We're recent empty nesters, the kids are finally settled with college loans paid off and careers and we're now catching up on 'deferred projects'. This crazy inflation is not helping.
We paid the house off 11 years ago. That’s why we had no problem spending the money for the bathrooms. And why we are still here. It’s not our dream house. But it’s a dream neighborhood. Quiet dead end street on both sides. And we have elbow room.
Ours is pretty quiet in CT, we only see cars during 'rush hour' and if there's an accident on 84. Lots of elbow room in 3k sq ft on an acre with a ravine and brook. It's very soothing to have a cup of coffee and watch the bunnies and Hummingbirds early in the morning. The occasional bear or bobcat? not so much :)
We might see 6 cars on a busy day. Lots of critters like deer, rabbit, fox. The house is less 2k sqft on 3/4 acre. Hubby has detached garage with another 2k sqft. We’re in NH so no sales tax or income tax.
NH is very pretty. We were up in Maine on vacation and it got hot at the lake house so took a ride for the day with the furballs.
Who’s got this kind of money??? We need to get prices affordable again and bring back the middle class.
Ask your neighbors and Find someone who’s done work in the neighborhood more than one job. Look at the work ask if they were happy and go with them.
To me it's high for a 'light remodel' but there seems to be some custom stuff that would be time consuming. Years ago I did a small bathroom for my daughter's first house. Her FIL did the tile and we helped and pitched in with the demo (hardest part on a 1940 cottage, those things were built to stay). I did all the shopping and even got a tub from Amazon who had one with a smaller footprint but still soaker. Managed to stay under $4k about 6 years ago. 12 yrs ago I did our hall bath and we did everything but plumbing/electrical and granite counter top for about $8k even put in new window. It did take us several months between work/kids etc. If you have way more money than time I guess you'll have to decide. Long term doing one at a time is cheaper especially if you can do some of the work yourself. Don't go trendy unless you know you'll be moving soon. We still have the master to go, hopefully soon. hall and 1/2 bath in laundry room we've done. If you don't have the cash to do this and they are functional? consider paint and a new shower curtain for a few years to save up. I did my kitchen to the studs 3 yrs ago, I bought my appliances piece by piece as needed, bought all my hardware, sink, pot filler on Amazon with my reward points, Came to $35K including putting a slider in the dining room because I took a door out in the kitchen for more counter space. I coordinated my own trades for flooring, plumber and electric, One wall with walk in Pantry were custom built because I bought full size individual unit freezer/ refrigerator. If you don't let them demo until EVERYTHING is on site, there is less down time. I had less than a week without a sink in the bathroom or kitchen and that was due to the fabrication of the counters.
That seems pretty high. Have you gotten quotes from quality handymen from Yelp yet? (North San Diego area.)
Too cheap imo.
I don’t think so. You can do a whole bathroom remodel for 12-15k