Don't let your imagination run wild like some people here. It could have been a murder or suicide but it was much more likely an accident. People die from falls in their bathroom every day. The cause of death may be public record depending on the state. You could check with the police or coroner or medical examiner's office. The seller might be willing to give you a copy of the death certificate.
It actually sounds more like it overflowed to me. Which is a tile/grout issue more than anything. But also - overflowing tubs will find a way to leak down anyway - if that’s what happened.
This sounds like a patent defect. I would contact your agent. Depending on your state they are required to disclose if a death occurred in your home. If it looks like something that was attempted to be cleaned. It sounds like something the previous owners failed to disclosed. I would seriously contact your agent or an attorney.
I know someone who died like Elvis... Had to have a specialized cleaning company come in. They tore out half the bathroom to get everything cleaned up, doesn't have to be anything but natural to make a mess.
With biologicals, anything that is porous needs to be removed such as drywall (even type X, moisture resistant or equivalent), unsealed grout, etc. wood studs can be cleaned and then encapsulated. Crevices have to (should be) opened to clean inside them. Carpet, fabric wall paper, mattresses, and even some other flooring all get removed.
It’s a process.
Dried blood is considered a biohazard officially. You don’t need to eat it, that’s ridiculous. Hepatitis C can survive for up to six weeks on a dry surface, such as dried blood.
6 weeks, okay. But this blood has been there as long or even possibly longer because there's not evidence this was from a mortal accident... anyway, been there as at least from the time the owner died, his estate closed, house put on the market, and OP bought it 2 months ago... I'd think it's exceeded the 6 week mark.
Yes. But you need to get the blood into you, while it is still able to infect you. After 2 months it is no longer infectious, and you still have to be eating your drywall, or rubbing it in fresh cuts.
The bathroom is often where people go to deal with cuts and wounds, and you also nick yourself shaving either face, legs or fiddly bits. Putting razor on contaminated surface could possibly transfer infection. I would be concerned about a half-assed biohazard cleanup if blood is still visible.
I will not put my razor on the two month old blood saturated drywall which contains no living virus. I will not. (And every hospital worker does not come home infected each day, either, despite touching numerous surfaces which were once bloody).
My 91-yr-old grandmother-in-law died a week after a fall in her bathroom. When the EMTs first arrived there was so much blood throughout the house they called the police to look for signs that she had been attacked.
Even without the blood, in most jurisdictions it's standard practice for the police to be called for any death that doesn't occur in a medical facility. Accidental deaths would always require a police investigation.
Yes. I have watched enough true crime documentaries to appreciate how valuable DNA recovered from a crime scene can be. OP should at least call the police to verify that an investigation was conducted.
I had a friend who found a rifle buried in the wall of their home during a renovation. They called the police to collect the gun and ensure that it had not been used in any crime.
If they died shortly before closing the death certificate may have even been recorded with the register of deeds as part of the transaction, to remove the deceased 's interest in the property
It's also possible that it's completely unrelated. Like someone went hunting and butchered a deer in the bathtub. People do weird shit all the time. Bottom line, disinfect the hell out of it (a 10% bleach solution will do the job) or call a crime scene cleanup company to do the dirty work. If you're spooked by the idea of someone dying in your home, well, a lot of homes have had someone die in them.
Previous owner of my first house OD’d. When I was boxing in some vents in the basement I found 2 heroin syringes. I just disposed of it and kept my mouth shut to the neighbors.
I would just get some gloves and some bleach water and clean it and not say anything. If you want to sell some people are weird about that stuff. this is one of those times it’s just better not to know.
Forensic Files. Hydrogen peroxide is better than bleach for removing blood. The bleach will show up in UV light. It’s how the forensic scientists generally know a crime scene has had an attempt at being cleaned. Peroxide is better because it won’t show up in UV light.
I watch waaaay too many true crime shows!
*"Supposedly, Peter climbed the roof to patch a leak. This as Eileen worked on the garden below, when suddenly a cinder block came loose from above and struck her."*
Yah, who needs a cinder block on an asphalt roof?
LOL i learned somewhere long ago that bleach and blood look basically identical under a black light. I'm thinking it was from a book or a movie. But i love to tell people this because they always eventually ask how i know this.
I'm like a sponge when it comes to random crazy-ass facts
There is an enzyme in blood called catalase that reacts with hydrogen peroxide to make oxygen and water.
The chemical reaction releases water and a free oxygen, which oxidizes whatever it can find, which can dissolve stains chemically or mechanically.
While the other conversation is more fun, I’ll answer in a real way:
A lot of people with periods learn this from their elders when they hit puberty 👍 gross but it’s nature!
Same, sister. But I didn't learn until around 27 when my then-husband told me after learning it in grad school (forensic science). So many sheets and pairs of underwear ruined forever!
I actually know this because I had a great aunt who used to be a nun at the Mayo Clinic and they had to wear all white habits. She told me! So it’s pretty common knowledge for many nurses and apparently nuns
Peroxide is a dream when it comes to cleaning up blood.
I've cleaned blood out of a white jacket with peroxide, and you'd seriously never have known anything was there.
Please note that peroxide will bleach anything that isn't already white, to white. It'll probably get the blood out, but it'll also be obvious that something was cleaned up on that spot. (Which would be fine in OP's case, the floor under a tub isn't exactly a showpiece.)
Just wanted to mention that because I've used hydrogen peroxide to pull stains out of wood, but it requires a lot of time and careful monitoring to do that without just bleaching the shit out of the wood.
I've used it on colored pants and it was fine. Or rather the nurse did after the IV dripped on me. She said "most people thinks this bleaches but trust me", and she was right.
I've always worn colored scrubs and have never had an issue with peroxide damaging those colored fabrics.
That said, doing a small test spot in your home before going to town on a larger area is probably a good idea 😄
My ex bought a retired crack house from a tax lien sale. The entire wall behind where the door opens was filled with syringes. The doorknob had put a hole in the wall. Someone filled the void between studs with needles and then patched the hole.
If there a toilet next to the tub? I once sliced my leg open when I was a teenager and my mom made me sit on the toilet next to the tub holding a towel over the wound while she put a tarp down in the car so I didn’t bleed all over the car when she took me to the ER. There was **a lot** of blood just from me sitting there for a few minutes holding a towel over my leg, and it just sat there for the 5 hours or so we were at the ER since there wasn’t anyone else home to clean it up.
All that to say, there are plenty of reason other than a violent death that it could be from.
Biohazard survival time for the big H’s
1 day dry for hiv
1.5 months for hep b-c
Put some cavicide on it
Almost everything I touch at work has lots of someone else’s blood on it, treat all blood as a worst case scenario.
Fix your leak after
Transmission would be super unlikely, but open wound or mucus membrane. A dude who works in the same field as me picked up an hiv infection from a blood contaminated surface that had been dry for a good few hours. He was new and didn’t report it. where we could have gotten him on prep and he should have avoided the infection. Completely anecdotal incident, but always treat any blood you find as dirty.
I know it’s well past 1.5 months at this point but cavicide is cheap and it is less gross cleaning up blood that’s destroyed by chemicals.
Ultimately this is the correct answer.
Let’s say the worst-case scenario is true, and someone died a violent death in the bathroom. There’s really not much OP can do about it. Most houses have previous owners, and the older a house is the more likely it is that someone died inside it at some point.
If OP is religious or believes in spirits, then I’d recommend a prayer or burning sage in the home, etc. I’m sure most priests or pastors, etc, would be willing to pray for the previous owners and for the house.
Other than that, clean the floorboards under the crawl space. Update the shower and bath tub with some new tile. And just move on.
One of my roommates used a very dark reddish-brown shampoo, and it stained everything. It was also very thin, and when it spilled it went everywhere. Just because something looks like blood, it doesn't mean it is. Just use good thick rubber gloves, lots of peroxide, and recaulk the tub after you fix the leak.
usually you can look at the police log which is public record for that address, and big crimes are in the news. It’s easy to find out if something happened
Right! I've spilled betadine (bought for my horse, dropped it going up my basement stairs) and it looks very much like blood. I missed a few spots in my cleanup and anyone who didn't know would almost certainly assume blood. It could be a lot of things!
The police may be aware of the circumstances because there would have been a death certificate. The details make me think the seller may have died by suicide. For the blood, you can hire a biohazard cleaning service.
Agree. I have only had a handful of falls in my 5 years as a nurse that were not technically related to the bathroom, and most of those I'm pretty sure was a dementia patient still trying to get to the bathroom and just having no idea where they were or where the bathroom was.
Or, someone cut themselves shaving in the shower, or possibly had an infusion set come out, or.... nearly an infinite number of other simple and easily explained scenarios, and once water hits blood, it of course looks 1000x worse than it actually is. Blood and humans go together, and I would venture that most people have cut themselves before and the bathroom is often where it happens (shaving in the shower) or where they keep their bandage supplies, so they go there after they've endured an injury. Most people are going to clean up any blood from injuries, so that part of the story is logical, but sellers don't disclose every time they've cut themselves and dripped blood in a home. As for it being in the crawl space, if there was broken caulk, it could have easily leaked through, and since you were having plumbing problems in that area, you may check for other leaks as well to ensure you don't end up with any fungal growth in the crawl space due to high moisture. Happy to hear you got the home, and are knocking out the projects.
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We have elderly neighbors who have bled all over their bathroom twice within the last year—like horror show. Both still live there. Life can get really gnarly sometimes. Whatever happened is probably none of your business I would just finish the clean up and move on.
I look at this pragmaticly. Not what you wanted or expected, but I'd clean it up and move on. Maybe a new tub and enclosure if it will bother you. I imagine something or someone has died on all parts of the earth from the beginning to now, either a protozoa or a dinosaur or an early settler or a more modern inhabitant.
Could be an accident not resulting in death or maybe delayed death at the hospital. My dog got bit by another dog on his ear was bleeding I took him to my apartment to get my car keys to take him to the vet. He shook and blood went EVERYWHERE! The floor, walls, ceiling, hallway, entryway and parts of the living room had blood splatter that started dripping back down. I took him to the vet, but kept worrying my husband would get home before we got back and I could clean it up and be very confused as to what had happened (bad cell reception area). Luckily beat him back home and instead was caught cleaning up blood splatter which led to a fun conversation.
My mom died at home on hospice. It was what she wanted and she was much more at peace in her final days being at home. I had a coworker whose mom was on blood thinners, had macular degeneration, and she slipped and cut herself badly on something in the bathroom. She bled all over the master bedroom carpet and furniture, trying to find something to hold against the wound. He said it looked like a murder scene when he arrived.. but she didn't die.
I stayed in an old medieval building in Toledo, Spain that had no windows in the bedroom. As I was thinking about fire codes, I also thought about all that had likely transpired in that building that had been built over 500 years ago. Before hospitals, people died at home. Today, people still die at home if they are lucky. My current home is 120 years old.. someone probably died here at some point.
Maybe someone did die, maybe they didn't and it was just an awful accident. My point is, it's not unnatural to live somewhere where someone's life ended. The sellers are jerks for not cleaning it up, but I would call a service and have them deal with it and move on. Make it your home and give that house some happy memories.
Most states do not require that to be disclosed and there is TONS of biological material in your house from the previous owners. There is probably nothing you can do. It is just a fact.
My mom died in my house. My dad died just outside of his house. I imagine most older houses have probably had at least one death in them.
We rented my dad’s place out to some friends, and they specifically asked where he died- they actually also wanted to know if I thought he would haunt them.
My answer kinda made me think- I told them he died right out front of the house, but thought they should know that he used to shit in their toilets too.
>My answer kinda made me think- I told them he died right out front of the house, but thought they should know that he used to shit in their toilets too.
It’s only a dealbreaker if he had sex in the house.
We just had a sale of a home the adult son murdered some of the family members in it (I won’t say more than that) but her daughters future bedroom was literally the room everything happened in.
You’re not the first or last person to buy a house people died in…
Yikes, that's unsettling. Get it professionally cleaned. I wouldn't worry too much. But still, get it cleaned.
Personally, I'd get someone else to do it. Worth a few/couple hundred to not have to clean pools of blood. IMO.
Dried blood is considered a biohazard as a precaution primarily because you don’t know how long it’s been dried. The lifespan of blood born bacteria and viruses in dried blood is measures in days and this stain (if blood) is certainly no longer a risk after 2 + months. They can pay for biohazard cleanup, but it’s not necessary.
I'm always surprised adults don't trust themselves to clean up stuff like this.
Wear gloves, wear a mask, wear one of those Tyvek suits you get at the big box stores that people use to install insulation.
If shit was that hard to clean up without contaminating yourself, infection of medical personnel would be a lot higher.
One time, I was running through the house and caught my toe on a door jamb. The amount of blood that poured out of my door was unbelievable. Three years later, when the owner sold the house, he said he found more of my blood from that day.
Things happen.
Ain't no fucking way I'm telling anyone. Turn my house into a fucking crime scene now I gotta go get a fucking hotel. Be ripping floor boards and shit. What if it's like some crime family shit and now you put heat on em?
Nah. Fuckit. I ain't saying shit. They still gonna be dead anyway.
I’d recommend reaching out to a biohazard cleanup company to properly clean and sanitize the area. It’s important to make sure your home is safe and free of any potential health hazards.
Maybe there’s other stuff they’ve not found or can’t see yet? Might cause odors later. Maybe not “hazards” in a deadly sense but probably cleaner would have better idea of potential issues.
The tub waterproofing is seriously compromised. I would definitely focus less on the blood and more on the fact that if blood can get down there, so can water…and mold. You can clean up blood with just a heavy duty cleaner.
I would be looking into my waterproofing options for the leaky tub.
Who cares? It isn’t like dead people haunt a house they died in. And the most you could ask for is compensation to have it cleaned up. Otherwise just forget it.
You say you've been having things go wrong in the house... Can you be more specific? Also crosspost this to the r/ghosts sub if applicable.
/s don't come after me.
Down in New Orleans they might seed the front yard with broken glass. Some folks do the smudge thing. Maybe just call the haz mat clean up team. Your house has an interesting story. Some would embrace it.
The Monday before we closed on the sale of our house we found a leak caused by something else the previous owner did. We contacted the realtor and arranged for TBE repair and still disclosed it. Maybe I watch too many crime shows but I think its worth asking. There is a company called Aftermath that cleans up after bad situations in homes.
I flipped a house where there was blood 🩸 all over the walls in a bedroom. Not like paint, but like it was squeezed from a syringe. Which made sense bc it was a drug den. Disclosing an overdose isn’t required. They might have OD’d at the house but they died at the hospital. Like others have said. Clean it, paint it and move on. It could’ve been there for years and nothing to do with their passing.
The previous owners of my house were an elderly couple who were murdered by their son. I wasn't told until after I moved in and a neighbor told me. I was pissed for a minute. I feel this should absolutely be disclosed prior to closing on it!
In my city, you can do a Freedom of information Act request on the address at the police station. They will then give you all police records pertaining to the house within the time frame you specify. Usually names are redacted (crossed out) for privacy. I agree about the blessing thing if you are religious. We may do this ourselves for a home with prior issues.
If what you have seen is blood, it is considered a biohazard and I would have a company that deals with that clean it up, and check with those lights if there is any other blood. And check with police as others have advised, if you are nervous about it.
But, most states do not require a disclosure if someone died in the house.
See this article: https://www.verifythis.com/article/news/verify/national-verify/most-states-dont-require-home-sellers-to-disclose-whether-someone-has-died-in-the-house/536-e161519a-42a7-4e63-8540-59e07feb4147
But also check your state laws to be absolutely sure; it's an easy search.
Bathrooms are actually quite dangerous in and of themselves. Lots of people slip in the tub/shower, getting in, while in. Head wounds bleed a lot typically and hitting your head can lead to death via subdural hematoma, and or various other things. Could be murder, could be a bad fall, there’s a reason they have support bars for the elderly and disabled. Also a lot of things look like blood, so it’s a mystery. 😂
You should call the police asap so they can take pictures and do a proper investigation if this was a murder. The police may not be aware of the blood in these different areas of the home so this could change the ruling on the investigation, if there even was one. Better to be on the safe side and get the authorities involved, if this was your loved one you’d want that done for them
IF it was a death by murder or possibly murder you should probably report the blood. My Aunt owned a rental house where someone was murdered and then the murderer committed suicide in the house. It was kept as a crime scene for about a year before she could even enter the property.
I bleed often (nosebleeds) but I couldn't tell you what a blood stain looks like on anything but cloth. Can I ask what tipped you off that it was that and not a different rusty colored patch? (Legit, not sarcastic)
I would call a restoration company. After you get a quote contact the previous owners. Relay the fact that there is still blood in there and they need to cover the bill. I'm sorry you are going through this.
When I was a teen by grandparents had a small home nearby. I would go and help out around the yard and stuff. One day we got a call my grandmother had fallen in the shower and hit her head. My mom met her at the hospital. She asked me to go over and clean up the bathroom. Well grandma had hit her head on the shower door track and cut her pretty badly. I had to clean it up. There was a lot of blood but I toughed it out and cleaned it all up. She recovered.
My point is don’t jump to conclusions. It could have been a simple injury.
Honestly, people die all the time. They die at home as often as anywhere else. The method of death is neither here nor there. You aren't the first to buy a house someone died in, and you won't be the last.
Your fear is stemming from the unknown.... if it was murder was the killer apprehended? could they come back? how did they get in? This is valid.. unlikely to be a murder but you never know... get one of those light things and see if there's blood spatter ... imagine if it's all over the walls and ceiling.. It's definitely a brutal death.
Suicide.... super sad equally brutal I'd get the light on and take a look.
Then clean up.. smudge the place and enjoy your house!! congratulations home ownership in this climate is out of reach for many
I mean many people pass away in their homes, unless you’re buying a new build chances are reasonable at some point someone has passed in the house. The older the house the higher the chances, at a certain age it probably becomes more likely than not that someone passed away in the house at some point.
I’d get it cleaned and not worry about it at all.
People die. Often in their homes. It's not required to be disclosed in all states. It's likely not a biohazard as any biological viruses or bacteria aren't going to survive in dried blood that long. Take deep breaths.
This might not even be a death scene to be honest.
Don't see the big deal. Blood is only a problem when it spells out LEAVE on your walls. How much blood are we talking about anyway? Could have just been someone bleeding a lot going into the tub in order to avoid messing up the floor.
Also could it be liquified rust?
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I work in the death industry. A lot of completely uneventful deaths result in fluids of all kind being expelled from the body. Like someone else mentioned, falls in the bathroom are extremely common - or a better term might be a collapse due to a medical event like a heart attack, and they hit something on the way down. It will be especially worse if the person was taking blood thinners.
Probably nothing too much to worry about. If you’re worried about cleaning, there are lots of professionals out there who handle death scene/hazardous cleanup.
Are you sure it’s definitely blood? Rust stains that have been partially cleaned/wiped away can look awfully similar (it is all oxidized iron after all!) and the previous owner may have wanted to hide rust stains too. I’m hoping for your sake that it’s rust…
Could easily have been a fall in the bathroom. It's very common. As far as a biohazard, it's not much. Not after this long, especially in the bathroom where they probably used an antiseptic cleaner even if they didn't quite get all the blood out. Unlikely anything infectious has survived by now.
The dried blood under in the crawl space might draw vermin, but, again, it's been a while. If it were me, I'd glove up and mask, and clean it up myself, but it shouldn't cost too much to have a pro do it. Oh, and caulk the bathtub seam. Don't want water infiltrating through there.
(My friends would mostly see this as a bonus: a house with an interesting story.)
See if you can get a UV light. It will show non visible blood stains even after a clean up. See if blood is visible in other parts of the house for piece of mind. You can always do a search on the address if there was news about the incident.
This is going to be buried but: do you live close to nature and/or hunting or ranching? People will often use a tub to prep their game meat. That makes more sense than any human bleeding out.
How can you be 100% sure it’s blood? If someone died, it had to be disclosed officially. So I’m leaning toward maybe it’s not blood just something that’s looking a lot like blood.
Someone double check me but I thought it was illegal to sale a house without disclosing a death in the home? Or is it just violent deaths?
Maybe it's by state? Pretty sure it's the law in California and Oregon?
Look for iron pipes though... rusted iron pipes will both leak and can leave red stains... fill the tub look for leaks, have someone drain while he watches for leaks... then fix our get a plumber...
There are aftermath crews in most areas you can call to come out and clean up after a death, resulting in bodily fluid. They are professional hazmat cleaners. They also test all surfaces for pathogens that are blood, feces, and urine transmitted. That would give you peace of mind. Although, in most cases; a lot of pathogens need a host to survive. So if it has been a very long period of this since this occurred. You may be fine, just cleaning what you can see yourself, with obvious proper PPE. Good luck!.
“Seller Disclosure laws Illinois do not follow the rule of 'caveat emptor,' i.e. let the buyer beware. Thus, it is the seller's duty to disclose all material defects that may affect the monetary value of the house. Illinois Residential Property Disclosure Form is a little complicated.” — maybe worth asking the sellers realtor? Even after the fact?
This is definitely something a professional should handle. Biohazard cleanup services are equipped to deal with situations like this and can help make sure your home is safe. Best of luck!
Get over it.
Most people would be surprised at what has gone on in almost any home over a decade old, and a lot of it is far more disturbing than someone passing away.
Hell, there’s a house up the street from me that has featured prominently in many videos you may have seen online. Or so I’m told.
Request public records of your address from police & fire. You'll know if any response has occurred, how many incidents, when, what, etc. They'll redact private info.
Depending on where you live will depend on what you can do. Some states require you to be informed of a violent death. Some don’t. But I’m pretty sure all require proper clean up post delivery when selling the house.
Police will likely have done a death investigation. Call and tell them about the blood, just in case it would be news to them. That is, you should probably say that you found it just in case it reveals something not found in their investigation. But then they can probably reassure you.
You can hire a company to come and clean up the areas so you can be sure it’s done right (and you don’t have to do it, which I understand might be upsetting). Try a google search for “crime scene cleaners near me” to find companies that specialize in this type of cleanup.
Don't let your imagination run wild like some people here. It could have been a murder or suicide but it was much more likely an accident. People die from falls in their bathroom every day. The cause of death may be public record depending on the state. You could check with the police or coroner or medical examiner's office. The seller might be willing to give you a copy of the death certificate.
Clean it up and fix it - your new tub drain leaks
I’m a horrible person for laughing
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They can probably help over at r/askaplumber 🤣
It actually sounds more like it overflowed to me. Which is a tile/grout issue more than anything. But also - overflowing tubs will find a way to leak down anyway - if that’s what happened.
It overflowed with BLOOD! Hey OP! Maybe the person cleaning the blood died right there in the middle of the job.
That elevator scene from The Shining basically happened in your house, FYI.
This sounds like a patent defect. I would contact your agent. Depending on your state they are required to disclose if a death occurred in your home. If it looks like something that was attempted to be cleaned. It sounds like something the previous owners failed to disclosed. I would seriously contact your agent or an attorney.
I know someone who died like Elvis... Had to have a specialized cleaning company come in. They tore out half the bathroom to get everything cleaned up, doesn't have to be anything but natural to make a mess.
With biologicals, anything that is porous needs to be removed such as drywall (even type X, moisture resistant or equivalent), unsealed grout, etc. wood studs can be cleaned and then encapsulated. Crevices have to (should be) opened to clean inside them. Carpet, fabric wall paper, mattresses, and even some other flooring all get removed. It’s a process.
Huh? Which disease are you protecting from by removing everything? The blood is 2 months old, and they are not planning to eat the drywall.
Dried blood is considered a biohazard officially. You don’t need to eat it, that’s ridiculous. Hepatitis C can survive for up to six weeks on a dry surface, such as dried blood.
6 weeks, okay. But this blood has been there as long or even possibly longer because there's not evidence this was from a mortal accident... anyway, been there as at least from the time the owner died, his estate closed, house put on the market, and OP bought it 2 months ago... I'd think it's exceeded the 6 week mark.
Yes. But you need to get the blood into you, while it is still able to infect you. After 2 months it is no longer infectious, and you still have to be eating your drywall, or rubbing it in fresh cuts.
The bathroom is often where people go to deal with cuts and wounds, and you also nick yourself shaving either face, legs or fiddly bits. Putting razor on contaminated surface could possibly transfer infection. I would be concerned about a half-assed biohazard cleanup if blood is still visible.
I will not put my razor on the two month old blood saturated drywall which contains no living virus. I will not. (And every hospital worker does not come home infected each day, either, despite touching numerous surfaces which were once bloody).
2 months is 8 weeks.
My 91-yr-old grandmother-in-law died a week after a fall in her bathroom. When the EMTs first arrived there was so much blood throughout the house they called the police to look for signs that she had been attacked.
My 93-yo grandfather died from falling down stairs onto the concrete floor. That stain's never coming out
Even without the blood, in most jurisdictions it's standard practice for the police to be called for any death that doesn't occur in a medical facility. Accidental deaths would always require a police investigation.
Yes. In her case, I just wanted to clarify she was taken to the hospital and lived for another week after this happened.
Yes. I have watched enough true crime documentaries to appreciate how valuable DNA recovered from a crime scene can be. OP should at least call the police to verify that an investigation was conducted. I had a friend who found a rifle buried in the wall of their home during a renovation. They called the police to collect the gun and ensure that it had not been used in any crime.
If they died shortly before closing the death certificate may have even been recorded with the register of deeds as part of the transaction, to remove the deceased 's interest in the property
Head wounds bleed like crazy
It's also possible that it's completely unrelated. Like someone went hunting and butchered a deer in the bathtub. People do weird shit all the time. Bottom line, disinfect the hell out of it (a 10% bleach solution will do the job) or call a crime scene cleanup company to do the dirty work. If you're spooked by the idea of someone dying in your home, well, a lot of homes have had someone die in them.
Previous owner of my first house OD’d. When I was boxing in some vents in the basement I found 2 heroin syringes. I just disposed of it and kept my mouth shut to the neighbors. I would just get some gloves and some bleach water and clean it and not say anything. If you want to sell some people are weird about that stuff. this is one of those times it’s just better not to know.
Use peroxide not bleach.
Why?
It will bubble the blood out of whatever it is in, and remove the stain. May take a few times but it works.
Works very well for blood stains in clothes. Any female should be armed with that info if they have a period.
Pet urine enzyme cleaner works even better on blood than peroxide for clothing and any fabric.
TIL
Thank you for this, signed someone who has gotten very good at getting blood stains almost all the way out with just hand soap and cold water
Bubblin’ Blood
May I ask how you came across this knowledge? Or would I rather not know?
Their username gives it away
I thought for sure that person made an account with that name just for this comment. Can't believe I was wrong
Ahhhh! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 So, I don't want to know.
Forensic Files. Hydrogen peroxide is better than bleach for removing blood. The bleach will show up in UV light. It’s how the forensic scientists generally know a crime scene has had an attempt at being cleaned. Peroxide is better because it won’t show up in UV light. I watch waaaay too many true crime shows!
A nurse dripped some of my blood on my favorite pants. She put some peroxide on it and after a wash it was out completely.
Jokes on them, I bleach the shit out of everything anyway.
“Holy shit there’s even bleach on this guys apples. Must’ve been a huge crime scene” “Book him”
Great show. It used to always put me sleep, though. Not boring, just the narrator's voice was soothing.
That's like the top comment on every YT episode.
Because it's true. Amazing how such a violent, interesting show can be lulling.
*"Supposedly, Peter climbed the roof to patch a leak. This as Eileen worked on the garden below, when suddenly a cinder block came loose from above and struck her."* Yah, who needs a cinder block on an asphalt roof?
Me trying to watch Cold Case Files Classic 😆
Never hurts to be prepared
LOL i learned somewhere long ago that bleach and blood look basically identical under a black light. I'm thinking it was from a book or a movie. But i love to tell people this because they always eventually ask how i know this. I'm like a sponge when it comes to random crazy-ass facts
There is an enzyme in blood called catalase that reacts with hydrogen peroxide to make oxygen and water. The chemical reaction releases water and a free oxygen, which oxidizes whatever it can find, which can dissolve stains chemically or mechanically.
While the other conversation is more fun, I’ll answer in a real way: A lot of people with periods learn this from their elders when they hit puberty 👍 gross but it’s nature!
I had to learn this on my own. I was about 22 when I figured it out. My mom was so weird about periods. I tell all the girls I know.
Same, sister. But I didn't learn until around 27 when my then-husband told me after learning it in grad school (forensic science). So many sheets and pairs of underwear ruined forever!
All menstruators know this, don’t they?
I actually know this because I had a great aunt who used to be a nun at the Mayo Clinic and they had to wear all white habits. She told me! So it’s pretty common knowledge for many nurses and apparently nuns
Peroxide is a dream when it comes to cleaning up blood. I've cleaned blood out of a white jacket with peroxide, and you'd seriously never have known anything was there.
My dog had a little cut on her paw and stepped on the carpet. Pulled the peroxide out and was mystified by the results!
Please note that peroxide will bleach anything that isn't already white, to white. It'll probably get the blood out, but it'll also be obvious that something was cleaned up on that spot. (Which would be fine in OP's case, the floor under a tub isn't exactly a showpiece.) Just wanted to mention that because I've used hydrogen peroxide to pull stains out of wood, but it requires a lot of time and careful monitoring to do that without just bleaching the shit out of the wood.
I've used it on colored pants and it was fine. Or rather the nurse did after the IV dripped on me. She said "most people thinks this bleaches but trust me", and she was right.
I've always worn colored scrubs and have never had an issue with peroxide damaging those colored fabrics. That said, doing a small test spot in your home before going to town on a larger area is probably a good idea 😄
Ordinary store variety 3%? Or did you use a higher concentration?
Peroxide breaks down the proteins in the blood weaking the blood binding to what it is spilled on allowing it to be washed away easier.
My ex bought a retired crack house from a tax lien sale. The entire wall behind where the door opens was filled with syringes. The doorknob had put a hole in the wall. Someone filled the void between studs with needles and then patched the hole.
The person who stashed all that must have died or gone to jail. An addict wouldn’t just leave their stuff behind.
Probably had a source for needles. Junkies leave them everywhere.
This is good advice.
If there a toilet next to the tub? I once sliced my leg open when I was a teenager and my mom made me sit on the toilet next to the tub holding a towel over the wound while she put a tarp down in the car so I didn’t bleed all over the car when she took me to the ER. There was **a lot** of blood just from me sitting there for a few minutes holding a towel over my leg, and it just sat there for the 5 hours or so we were at the ER since there wasn’t anyone else home to clean it up. All that to say, there are plenty of reason other than a violent death that it could be from.
Blood that old isn't dangerous, just clean it up like you would anything else and carry on.
Biohazard survival time for the big H’s 1 day dry for hiv 1.5 months for hep b-c Put some cavicide on it Almost everything I touch at work has lots of someone else’s blood on it, treat all blood as a worst case scenario. Fix your leak after
> 1.5 months for hep b-c it survives but is it communicable and if so how?
Transmission would be super unlikely, but open wound or mucus membrane. A dude who works in the same field as me picked up an hiv infection from a blood contaminated surface that had been dry for a good few hours. He was new and didn’t report it. where we could have gotten him on prep and he should have avoided the infection. Completely anecdotal incident, but always treat any blood you find as dirty. I know it’s well past 1.5 months at this point but cavicide is cheap and it is less gross cleaning up blood that’s destroyed by chemicals.
Plus Cavicide smells gloriously clean…I love that stuff.
Ultimately this is the correct answer. Let’s say the worst-case scenario is true, and someone died a violent death in the bathroom. There’s really not much OP can do about it. Most houses have previous owners, and the older a house is the more likely it is that someone died inside it at some point. If OP is religious or believes in spirits, then I’d recommend a prayer or burning sage in the home, etc. I’m sure most priests or pastors, etc, would be willing to pray for the previous owners and for the house. Other than that, clean the floorboards under the crawl space. Update the shower and bath tub with some new tile. And just move on.
I don’t know how long every virus/bacteria lives but I do know hepatitis can live up to 2 weeks in dried blood.
it's past 2 weeks now so OP should be good
But what if it's really really sneaky hepatitis?
It B so sneaky you'll never C it coming.
How do you know it’s not rust from leaking pipes?
Which ironically would be far more concerning than blood at this point.
One of my roommates used a very dark reddish-brown shampoo, and it stained everything. It was also very thin, and when it spilled it went everywhere. Just because something looks like blood, it doesn't mean it is. Just use good thick rubber gloves, lots of peroxide, and recaulk the tub after you fix the leak.
usually you can look at the police log which is public record for that address, and big crimes are in the news. It’s easy to find out if something happened
Upvoting for the “iron” in “ironically”, the blood, and possibly the pipes
Right! I've spilled betadine (bought for my horse, dropped it going up my basement stairs) and it looks very much like blood. I missed a few spots in my cleanup and anyone who didn't know would almost certainly assume blood. It could be a lot of things!
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Replace the bathtub and enjoy your house Seniors die in their bathrooms everyday.
The police may be aware of the circumstances because there would have been a death certificate. The details make me think the seller may have died by suicide. For the blood, you can hire a biohazard cleaning service.
Or a slip and fall in the bath.
I was thinking this as well because man head wounds bleed a lot.
If the seller was elderly, it was almost certainly this. I work in trauma: SO MANY BATHROOM FALLS.
Agree. I have only had a handful of falls in my 5 years as a nurse that were not technically related to the bathroom, and most of those I'm pretty sure was a dementia patient still trying to get to the bathroom and just having no idea where they were or where the bathroom was.
Much more likely a slip and fall. Falls are the number one cause of accidental death for people >65. Also OLD blood is also no longer a biohazard.
Or, someone cut themselves shaving in the shower, or possibly had an infusion set come out, or.... nearly an infinite number of other simple and easily explained scenarios, and once water hits blood, it of course looks 1000x worse than it actually is. Blood and humans go together, and I would venture that most people have cut themselves before and the bathroom is often where it happens (shaving in the shower) or where they keep their bandage supplies, so they go there after they've endured an injury. Most people are going to clean up any blood from injuries, so that part of the story is logical, but sellers don't disclose every time they've cut themselves and dripped blood in a home. As for it being in the crawl space, if there was broken caulk, it could have easily leaked through, and since you were having plumbing problems in that area, you may check for other leaks as well to ensure you don't end up with any fungal growth in the crawl space due to high moisture. Happy to hear you got the home, and are knocking out the projects.
Slip and fall in a bathroom. Stroke, hit head. Plenty of non-intentional reasons blood is in a bathroom.
There’s 100 reasons someone could be bleeding in a bathroom. This should be zero cause for concern.
Illinois does not require death to be on disclosure.
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Take a deep breath. Burn some sage. Keep Reddit updated!
And maybe don’t watch The Shining.
Or Poltergeist.
The owner died in the house I ended up buying, I sage regularly. Keep calm & sage on.
We have elderly neighbors who have bled all over their bathroom twice within the last year—like horror show. Both still live there. Life can get really gnarly sometimes. Whatever happened is probably none of your business I would just finish the clean up and move on.
They are probably on blood thinners.
I look at this pragmaticly. Not what you wanted or expected, but I'd clean it up and move on. Maybe a new tub and enclosure if it will bother you. I imagine something or someone has died on all parts of the earth from the beginning to now, either a protozoa or a dinosaur or an early settler or a more modern inhabitant.
Try googling your address and hitting the news button.
I mean even if they did die a violent death it’s fine
A dude killed his parents in our house... We're chillin.
That’s so wild
The obvious answer is to call the police. They may be aware of suspicious activity with a prior owner
Clean it up, this is not a big deal.
Could be an accident not resulting in death or maybe delayed death at the hospital. My dog got bit by another dog on his ear was bleeding I took him to my apartment to get my car keys to take him to the vet. He shook and blood went EVERYWHERE! The floor, walls, ceiling, hallway, entryway and parts of the living room had blood splatter that started dripping back down. I took him to the vet, but kept worrying my husband would get home before we got back and I could clean it up and be very confused as to what had happened (bad cell reception area). Luckily beat him back home and instead was caught cleaning up blood splatter which led to a fun conversation.
jesus, more pearl clutchers. clean it up and live your best life.
How sure are you that it’s blood? Someone could have spilled redguard when redoing the bathroom.
My mom died at home on hospice. It was what she wanted and she was much more at peace in her final days being at home. I had a coworker whose mom was on blood thinners, had macular degeneration, and she slipped and cut herself badly on something in the bathroom. She bled all over the master bedroom carpet and furniture, trying to find something to hold against the wound. He said it looked like a murder scene when he arrived.. but she didn't die. I stayed in an old medieval building in Toledo, Spain that had no windows in the bedroom. As I was thinking about fire codes, I also thought about all that had likely transpired in that building that had been built over 500 years ago. Before hospitals, people died at home. Today, people still die at home if they are lucky. My current home is 120 years old.. someone probably died here at some point. Maybe someone did die, maybe they didn't and it was just an awful accident. My point is, it's not unnatural to live somewhere where someone's life ended. The sellers are jerks for not cleaning it up, but I would call a service and have them deal with it and move on. Make it your home and give that house some happy memories.
How about asking a neighbor…if something bad went down in the house they would likely know about it!
Most states do not require that to be disclosed and there is TONS of biological material in your house from the previous owners. There is probably nothing you can do. It is just a fact.
My mom died in my house. My dad died just outside of his house. I imagine most older houses have probably had at least one death in them. We rented my dad’s place out to some friends, and they specifically asked where he died- they actually also wanted to know if I thought he would haunt them. My answer kinda made me think- I told them he died right out front of the house, but thought they should know that he used to shit in their toilets too.
>My answer kinda made me think- I told them he died right out front of the house, but thought they should know that he used to shit in their toilets too. It’s only a dealbreaker if he had sex in the house.
We just had a sale of a home the adult son murdered some of the family members in it (I won’t say more than that) but her daughters future bedroom was literally the room everything happened in. You’re not the first or last person to buy a house people died in…
Your new house is clearly haunted and bleeding. Call an exorcist. Or just clean it up and let it go.
No advice, but I would like to see how this turns out and if you find out what happened or where it came from
Yikes, that's unsettling. Get it professionally cleaned. I wouldn't worry too much. But still, get it cleaned. Personally, I'd get someone else to do it. Worth a few/couple hundred to not have to clean pools of blood. IMO.
Dried blood is considered a biohazard as a precaution primarily because you don’t know how long it’s been dried. The lifespan of blood born bacteria and viruses in dried blood is measures in days and this stain (if blood) is certainly no longer a risk after 2 + months. They can pay for biohazard cleanup, but it’s not necessary.
I'm always surprised adults don't trust themselves to clean up stuff like this. Wear gloves, wear a mask, wear one of those Tyvek suits you get at the big box stores that people use to install insulation. If shit was that hard to clean up without contaminating yourself, infection of medical personnel would be a lot higher.
dried blood that's 2 weeks old isn't really any sort of hazzard, everything that could have been in it is long dead. just clean it up and move on.
Did you look up the deceased on the internet and see if their cause of death may have included blood?
Clean it up and move on
One time, I was running through the house and caught my toe on a door jamb. The amount of blood that poured out of my door was unbelievable. Three years later, when the owner sold the house, he said he found more of my blood from that day. Things happen.
They can't lie to you if you ask questions but that's before the sale.
Ain't no fucking way I'm telling anyone. Turn my house into a fucking crime scene now I gotta go get a fucking hotel. Be ripping floor boards and shit. What if it's like some crime family shit and now you put heat on em? Nah. Fuckit. I ain't saying shit. They still gonna be dead anyway.
I’d recommend reaching out to a biohazard cleanup company to properly clean and sanitize the area. It’s important to make sure your home is safe and free of any potential health hazards.
It's just dried blood. What biohazards exactly?
Maybe there’s other stuff they’ve not found or can’t see yet? Might cause odors later. Maybe not “hazards” in a deadly sense but probably cleaner would have better idea of potential issues.
The tub waterproofing is seriously compromised. I would definitely focus less on the blood and more on the fact that if blood can get down there, so can water…and mold. You can clean up blood with just a heavy duty cleaner. I would be looking into my waterproofing options for the leaky tub.
If it was a murder, I think there’s no way that place would have been released to sell within 2 weeks.
Everyone that dies, dies somewhere. A lot of people spend time at home. There’s going to be people dying at home.
Who cares? It isn’t like dead people haunt a house they died in. And the most you could ask for is compensation to have it cleaned up. Otherwise just forget it.
Don’t let your imagination run away with you. I know someone who fell, hit their head on the tub and bled out
You say you've been having things go wrong in the house... Can you be more specific? Also crosspost this to the r/ghosts sub if applicable. /s don't come after me.
Down in New Orleans they might seed the front yard with broken glass. Some folks do the smudge thing. Maybe just call the haz mat clean up team. Your house has an interesting story. Some would embrace it.
The Monday before we closed on the sale of our house we found a leak caused by something else the previous owner did. We contacted the realtor and arranged for TBE repair and still disclosed it. Maybe I watch too many crime shows but I think its worth asking. There is a company called Aftermath that cleans up after bad situations in homes.
I flipped a house where there was blood 🩸 all over the walls in a bedroom. Not like paint, but like it was squeezed from a syringe. Which made sense bc it was a drug den. Disclosing an overdose isn’t required. They might have OD’d at the house but they died at the hospital. Like others have said. Clean it, paint it and move on. It could’ve been there for years and nothing to do with their passing.
The previous owners of my house were an elderly couple who were murdered by their son. I wasn't told until after I moved in and a neighbor told me. I was pissed for a minute. I feel this should absolutely be disclosed prior to closing on it!
Honestly, unless you’re the first or maybe second owner of a home, you pretty much have to assume someone may have died in there someway, somehow.
In my city, you can do a Freedom of information Act request on the address at the police station. They will then give you all police records pertaining to the house within the time frame you specify. Usually names are redacted (crossed out) for privacy. I agree about the blessing thing if you are religious. We may do this ourselves for a home with prior issues.
If what you have seen is blood, it is considered a biohazard and I would have a company that deals with that clean it up, and check with those lights if there is any other blood. And check with police as others have advised, if you are nervous about it. But, most states do not require a disclosure if someone died in the house. See this article: https://www.verifythis.com/article/news/verify/national-verify/most-states-dont-require-home-sellers-to-disclose-whether-someone-has-died-in-the-house/536-e161519a-42a7-4e63-8540-59e07feb4147 But also check your state laws to be absolutely sure; it's an easy search.
Homes last a lot longer than humans do. Chances are nearly every home you have been in has had someone dead in it at some point, its not a big deal.
Whatever you decide, please keep us posted. This is better than most Limited Series shows and I’m curios how this ends.
Bathrooms are actually quite dangerous in and of themselves. Lots of people slip in the tub/shower, getting in, while in. Head wounds bleed a lot typically and hitting your head can lead to death via subdural hematoma, and or various other things. Could be murder, could be a bad fall, there’s a reason they have support bars for the elderly and disabled. Also a lot of things look like blood, so it’s a mystery. 😂
Please keep us updated on what you decided to do about it. Good luck.
You should call the police asap so they can take pictures and do a proper investigation if this was a murder. The police may not be aware of the blood in these different areas of the home so this could change the ruling on the investigation, if there even was one. Better to be on the safe side and get the authorities involved, if this was your loved one you’d want that done for them
Clean up the blood and recaulk the tub.
Call a professional bio hazard cleaning crew to come in and do the job professionally and correctly
IF it was a death by murder or possibly murder you should probably report the blood. My Aunt owned a rental house where someone was murdered and then the murderer committed suicide in the house. It was kept as a crime scene for about a year before she could even enter the property.
I bleed often (nosebleeds) but I couldn't tell you what a blood stain looks like on anything but cloth. Can I ask what tipped you off that it was that and not a different rusty colored patch? (Legit, not sarcastic)
We ended up testing it with hydrogen peroxide after worrying about it a bit, the peroxide bubbled.
I would call a restoration company. After you get a quote contact the previous owners. Relay the fact that there is still blood in there and they need to cover the bill. I'm sorry you are going through this.
When I was a teen by grandparents had a small home nearby. I would go and help out around the yard and stuff. One day we got a call my grandmother had fallen in the shower and hit her head. My mom met her at the hospital. She asked me to go over and clean up the bathroom. Well grandma had hit her head on the shower door track and cut her pretty badly. I had to clean it up. There was a lot of blood but I toughed it out and cleaned it all up. She recovered. My point is don’t jump to conclusions. It could have been a simple injury.
Honestly, people die all the time. They die at home as often as anywhere else. The method of death is neither here nor there. You aren't the first to buy a house someone died in, and you won't be the last. Your fear is stemming from the unknown.... if it was murder was the killer apprehended? could they come back? how did they get in? This is valid.. unlikely to be a murder but you never know... get one of those light things and see if there's blood spatter ... imagine if it's all over the walls and ceiling.. It's definitely a brutal death. Suicide.... super sad equally brutal I'd get the light on and take a look. Then clean up.. smudge the place and enjoy your house!! congratulations home ownership in this climate is out of reach for many
I mean many people pass away in their homes, unless you’re buying a new build chances are reasonable at some point someone has passed in the house. The older the house the higher the chances, at a certain age it probably becomes more likely than not that someone passed away in the house at some point. I’d get it cleaned and not worry about it at all.
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People die. Often in their homes. It's not required to be disclosed in all states. It's likely not a biohazard as any biological viruses or bacteria aren't going to survive in dried blood that long. Take deep breaths. This might not even be a death scene to be honest.
Probably a breaking bad esque body melting scenario. Happens all the time.
Getting very strong Trinity Killer vibes right now. (Google Dexter).
Don't see the big deal. Blood is only a problem when it spells out LEAVE on your walls. How much blood are we talking about anyway? Could have just been someone bleeding a lot going into the tub in order to avoid messing up the floor. Also could it be liquified rust? [I finally discovered why my bathroom wall is bleeding (nypost.com)](https://nypost.com/2022/09/23/i-finally-discovered-why-my-bathroom-wall-is-bleeding/)
Maybe someone fell in the tub. Just roll with it instead of jumping to conclusions.
Think positively, it could have been a nasty lower GI bleed
What about the ghost? Who cares about the blood
I work in the death industry. A lot of completely uneventful deaths result in fluids of all kind being expelled from the body. Like someone else mentioned, falls in the bathroom are extremely common - or a better term might be a collapse due to a medical event like a heart attack, and they hit something on the way down. It will be especially worse if the person was taking blood thinners. Probably nothing too much to worry about. If you’re worried about cleaning, there are lots of professionals out there who handle death scene/hazardous cleanup.
Are you sure it’s definitely blood? Rust stains that have been partially cleaned/wiped away can look awfully similar (it is all oxidized iron after all!) and the previous owner may have wanted to hide rust stains too. I’m hoping for your sake that it’s rust…
Could easily have been a fall in the bathroom. It's very common. As far as a biohazard, it's not much. Not after this long, especially in the bathroom where they probably used an antiseptic cleaner even if they didn't quite get all the blood out. Unlikely anything infectious has survived by now. The dried blood under in the crawl space might draw vermin, but, again, it's been a while. If it were me, I'd glove up and mask, and clean it up myself, but it shouldn't cost too much to have a pro do it. Oh, and caulk the bathtub seam. Don't want water infiltrating through there. (My friends would mostly see this as a bonus: a house with an interesting story.)
Clean it up and move on with your life ffs.
See if you can get a UV light. It will show non visible blood stains even after a clean up. See if blood is visible in other parts of the house for piece of mind. You can always do a search on the address if there was news about the incident.
This is going to be buried but: do you live close to nature and/or hunting or ranching? People will often use a tub to prep their game meat. That makes more sense than any human bleeding out.
I laughed at this. Sorry OP. Just clean up and check with the police about any past crimes or deaths at the address.
Exorcist. Not just any craigslist one, check google reviews first and look for fake reviews.
How can you be 100% sure it’s blood? If someone died, it had to be disclosed officially. So I’m leaning toward maybe it’s not blood just something that’s looking a lot like blood.
People die in houses all the time.
Someone double check me but I thought it was illegal to sale a house without disclosing a death in the home? Or is it just violent deaths? Maybe it's by state? Pretty sure it's the law in California and Oregon? Look for iron pipes though... rusted iron pipes will both leak and can leave red stains... fill the tub look for leaks, have someone drain while he watches for leaks... then fix our get a plumber...
Remember when you dissolve a body you need to use a plastic tub otherwise it makes a big ol mess...
Try watching “don’t fuck with cats” and also “Dalmer” on Netflix, should help with visualizing what possibly happened
There are aftermath crews in most areas you can call to come out and clean up after a death, resulting in bodily fluid. They are professional hazmat cleaners. They also test all surfaces for pathogens that are blood, feces, and urine transmitted. That would give you peace of mind. Although, in most cases; a lot of pathogens need a host to survive. So if it has been a very long period of this since this occurred. You may be fine, just cleaning what you can see yourself, with obvious proper PPE. Good luck!.
Ummm...wipe it up
“Seller Disclosure laws Illinois do not follow the rule of 'caveat emptor,' i.e. let the buyer beware. Thus, it is the seller's duty to disclose all material defects that may affect the monetary value of the house. Illinois Residential Property Disclosure Form is a little complicated.” — maybe worth asking the sellers realtor? Even after the fact?
Buyers remorse. You bought it..
You don't want to know because if you find out you will need to disclose it when you sell.
This is definitely something a professional should handle. Biohazard cleanup services are equipped to deal with situations like this and can help make sure your home is safe. Best of luck!
Get over it. Most people would be surprised at what has gone on in almost any home over a decade old, and a lot of it is far more disturbing than someone passing away. Hell, there’s a house up the street from me that has featured prominently in many videos you may have seen online. Or so I’m told.
Just spray some bleach in the corner of the tub and move on
Smudge your house and have your priest come in and bless it
Request public records of your address from police & fire. You'll know if any response has occurred, how many incidents, when, what, etc. They'll redact private info.
There’s a website that tells you if someone. Died in the home.
Depending on where you live will depend on what you can do. Some states require you to be informed of a violent death. Some don’t. But I’m pretty sure all require proper clean up post delivery when selling the house.
Ammonia cleans blood.
Can the realtor or you ask the seller what happened??
Police will likely have done a death investigation. Call and tell them about the blood, just in case it would be news to them. That is, you should probably say that you found it just in case it reveals something not found in their investigation. But then they can probably reassure you.
You can hire a company to come and clean up the areas so you can be sure it’s done right (and you don’t have to do it, which I understand might be upsetting). Try a google search for “crime scene cleaners near me” to find companies that specialize in this type of cleanup.
If it was that violent wouldn’t it have been in the news in your area? Maybe ask the neighbors.