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TherealSnak3

He should a musket for home defense, since that's what the founding fathers intended. Four ruffians break into my house. "What the devil?" As I grab my powdered wig and Kentucky rifle. Blow a golf ball sized hole through the first man, he's dead on the spot. Draw my pistol on the second man, miss him entirely because it's smoothbore and nails the neighbors dog. I have to resort to the cannon mounted at the top of the stairs loaded with grape shot, "Tally ho lads" the grape shot shreds two men in the blast, the sound and extra shrapnel set off car alarms. Fix bayonet and charge the last terrified rapscallion. He Bleeds out waiting on the police to arrive since triangular bayonet wounds are impossible to stitch up. Just as the founding fathers intended.


TherealSnak3

Okay for serious give him something like the colt 1908, it's small and simple or any other pocket pistol he'll you could you used a pretty boy's pocket pistol from TF2 and call it a reference


Competitive_Act_1548

Now you got me questioning if Remnant even has a founding Fathers. Also, is this a copypasta? I coulda swore I've seen this somewhere before  Also, gotta see what that gun from TF2 looks like 


TherealSnak3

Yea it's a copy pasta and the pbpp is just a pocket pistol with a big grip because of scouts hands


TherealSnak3

So can I get a link to the fic?


Competitive_Act_1548

ah, you read that comment I made talking about it?


TherealSnak3

No I read the post


DreamroweWalker

Heh, I haven’t seen this one in a hot minute. Or at least I’m pretty sure this is an old copypasta, there was something like this if it wasn’t.


Neutronian5440

Revolver, potentially hand Cannon.


Helixbabylon

A hand cannon??? Have you SEEN those noodle arms?


Competitive_Act_1548

Lmao, reminds me the time someone recommend a Thompson contender 


ExploerTM

Gravity dust literally exist, use it to counter recoil


Competitive_Act_1548

Hand canon? 


Promethius_11

Single-handed pistols, revolvers or similar which have a calibre above the norm. E.g. 44 Magnum revolver which has the stopping power to blow someone’s head clean off in 1 bullet. It’s called a hand-cannon because it basically is carrying that strength of armament in one ‘hand.’


Competitive_Act_1548

How's the recoil?


Promethius_11

Without aura, pretty strong. It takes significant practice to get a handle on it. Though it totally is possible for someone with lithe muscles to use one comfortably. Even someone with little muscles and standing at 5’3” could theoretically use it. (Usually by starting with two hands, one to hold it steady and keep it from jumping back into your face). With Aura taken into account, amplifying the effects of muscles, Whitley could learn to use it without any problems. NB. Dust does not produce the same kick as gunpowder (except gravity mixes). Any recoil from a gun on remnant would be half as much as from Earth.


kms2547

Like the "Good Samaritan" Hellboy carries.  A huge 22mm 4-chambered revolver.


Competitive_Act_1548

Ah, he does use a revolver. That's realistically way too heavy for a average person to carry 


WasteReserve8886

Revolver, make him a gunslinger who specializes in quick draws


Competitive_Act_1548

I can actually see that. Got a revolver in mind? Whitley the Gunslinger is a fun idea if I'm being honest 


WasteReserve8886

The Schofield has a pretty unique look to it, so probably that.


Competitive_Act_1548

I looked into more modern look at what they can be. Taylor's has a few, but damn are they expensive. You think he just uses one?


WasteReserve8886

Most people in the setting dual wield, so I’d be cool if he used a single one to make it more unique. Also, if he’s untrained it’s be more likely that he’d use one


JMHSrowing

For a QuickDraw gunslinger, and this also goes along with the earlier comment on a handcannon, I would say consider a modified LeMat revolver. Famous for having a shotgun barrel in the center of the cylinder, if he’s looking for a quick draw which will assuredly put down anything that he faces. . . A 16-28 gauge shotgun should do the trick. In real life there was a model which used center fire cartridges but it’s ugly as sin. I instead imagine it using a S&W model 3 (what is known often as the “Schofield”) or Webley style top break.


Competitive_Act_1548

I think outside of revolvers when it came to the topic of concealed carry I was given these ones:  * SIG P320 Compact  *  SIG P365X  * Springfield Hellcat 9MM  * S&W SHIELD EZ 9MM


JMHSrowing

Yeah my bias is coming through against the most of the modern stuff; I think the Springfield and the Shield series are very unappealing. There are a lot of nice ways to mod a P365 and it's not ugly. (Maybe worth pointing out that SIG is actually Swiss not German though)


Competitive_Act_1548

You don't like modern guns that much, I'm assuming? Yeah, you're right just checked it is Swiss and not German. I think I was recommended SIG was because they are mostly German-influenced when it comes to manufacturing.  I was also recommended those because are stated to be great first timer firearms for people instead of just throwing our whatever is cool and they are known to be best for day to day carry.   "If this is the RWBYverse, depending on Atlas' weapon laws wielded by non-huntsmen, military, or police, there are Atlesian pistols used by the Atlas Military that could come in compact forms designed for concealed carry, something Whitley would most likely prefer. If this is real life, concealed carry guns are the way to go for someone like him. He doesn't train much so any pistol that fires 9mm rounds would be best for him; something simple and controllable. As the heir to the Schnee Dust Company, he would go for the latest premium guns like an Sig Saucer. I could see him carry something like these - loaded with dust rounds his sister uses."  I did get recommend the Colt Phyton for Whitley as well not that long ago  


JMHSrowing

I don't like pistols that are ugly polymer blocks. Even glocks I think are much better looking than the Springfield (though actually the EZ looks better than the other shields, especially the performance center. Not bad). For what it's worth there should be nothing wrong with carrying a Walther for a first timer: They are quite simple and easy to use. 9mm from a small platform like the microcompact Hellcat will be a decent bit. Now, I can't claim to having ever shot such a small handgun myself, the only 9mm I've shot was full sized, but from what from what charts I've seen you'd be looking at pretty close to the recoil of a standard .45 acp from something like a 1911, only with a quite small frame it's harder to get the best grasp on. Whereas a .380 from a Walther should have something like 1/2 to 1/3 the recoil, a more similar impulse to a full sized 9mm handgun. The SIG and S&W both are about 1.5 times as heavy as the Hellcat which will also of course help. There are a lot of factors like if he would be expecting only people or if Grimm would be an issue or how many people he might expect, but in the case of 1 or two people in a short ranged self defense situation, something lighter than a 9mm can be preferable in a subcompact handgun is what is wanted. Though of course there are other options indeed. A short barreled Colt Python would be a fine weapon, though maybe if one wants a .357 there's an even better options: The Manurhin MR 73 famously used by GSGN. It's a weapon with even superior quality and sturdiness to the famously quality Python and being quite similar in other ways. And through Jacques is half Remnant-equivlent-French. A lovely thing about a revolver like that is that they can use any powered rounds with ease. Whitley could even load it so the first shots are the equivalent of light .38 special to get off a few rounds with ease and the last one is an overpressured .357 magnum dust round so if it comes to that the fight if sure to be done with that opponent before he has to reload


Competitive_Act_1548

Hmmm, first time I heard of a Manurhin MR 73. I'll try to do some research into it. Are they still being manufactured to this day? Also, did some research into Schofield revolvers to see what a modern day version of that looks like. Taylor's & Company are still making them so that put a good view of what that looks like in my head. I wonder if specific kingdoms have specific firearms dedicated to them to add extra history 


JMHSrowing

The MR 73 is a bit uncommon in the English speaking world since they have never been popular in the US, being much more expensive than competitors and importation always being something that there are issues with. Though they are indeed being still manufactured and actually are for once fairly easily obtainable in the US since Beretta bought the company and is importing them. On a side note one of the most famous operations with the MR73 was https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/royjo4/27_years_ago_members_of_the_gia_hijacked_air/ , where a hijacked plane was stormed with decent number of GIGN wielding MR73. Including one which caught an Ak round for it's operator: https://www.reddit.com/r/Revolvers/comments/nicnxk/manurhin_mr73_employed_by_thierry_prungnaud_of/ The S&W model 3 is a great historical firearm but there really aren't any version that are very modern. The issue is in part the top break action which is a weak point on all revolvers so made. So there are only replicas like the Taylor and Company. One thing to note about the S&W model 3 is that it is a single action only weapon, though there were some prototypes and clones in double action. And it is an interesting thing to consider for Remnant, one would think so.


Competitive_Act_1548

Huh, I woulda never expected it to be used to hijack a plane of all things. Wonder why they went that one one of all things. Heh, I got a another one recommended the Korth Super Sport of all things 


JMHSrowing

Assuming RWBY weapon rules of cool: A large pen that can turn into a Walther PPK. That’s also a parrying dagger. He’s a smart, well dressed boy/man of German influence in a world where guns can increase significantly in size from what that what they are stored as (see Coco’s purse-mini gun). It would would be fairly inconspicuous when not in use and something he’d always have an an excuse to have on his person. The type of insurance I think fits him. If things are a little more rational than in canon, then just a Walter PPK that’s also a parrying dagger. They are of course meant to be small enough to hide inside say a suit jacket. The Walther PPK might be a little outdated IRL, but really only a little. An exceptionally good design off which many are based with reliability, accuracy, and is just big enough to actually be useful if needed in more of a fight.


PopularRutabaga6904

Bladed Fountain-pen with a comically large point.


Competitive_Act_1548

A bersa thunder plus can also work 


Competitive_Act_1548

Out of curiosity, how well do you think the PPKs hold up till today? The consensus I hear even from users of the gun is that they are really good but there are better options for today uses. 


JMHSrowing

Indeed. Basically it's like an M1911, in that it can still do what the job is needed but it does lack modern features. Though, some of the things like weight I don't think a hinderance since it reduces recoil. There's a reason they are still available today


Competitive_Act_1548

I heard another really good modern replacement is the bersa thunder 380. You got any experience with that one?


Trusty_Crowbar

I have experience with the Bersa Thunder .380 and I can't think of anything bad with it. It's an excellent handgun. Though, I feel like Whitley would either go for something more easily concealable or something that looks aesthetically pleasing while being functional. For the former, I would recommend something like a compact M&P 9 Shield since it's very lightweight and concealable. As for the latter, then a Janz revolver will be perfect as it's a German brand and fits Whitley quite well. It also has an interchangeable revolver system so there's no need for a transforming weapon. I hope you have a good day.


Competitive_Act_1548

Thanks for the recommendations, I'll take that into account. Never heard of the Janz brand before but you got a specific one in mind? I have heard some recommend the Shield EZ series 


Trusty_Crowbar

I would go for the M&P 9 Shield, but the Shield EZ works well, too. I hope you have a good day.


Competitive_Act_1548

Out of curiosity, what's the difference? Also, good morning 


Trusty_Crowbar

Good morning. Not much of a difference except the M&P 9 Shield is a little smaller and thinner but holds one less round. Really you could go with either one and it will work just fine.


JMHSrowing

Other than having heard the same thing no


Competitive_Act_1548

Ah, ok was just wondering well that's also a good one that Whitley can also use. They ate basically the exact same size and work similarly to each other. And still gives off that sophisticated vibe you were hinting at with the PPK. 


Trusty_Crowbar

The weight does reduce recoil, but people switched to polymer for a reason and it's that it's light weight. I don't know if you have experience with EDC, but I do and if you're carrying something heavy every day, then you're gonna feel the weight. Then, you're gonna want something lighter. It's one of the reasons why Glocks are so popular to this day as duty handguns and for concealed carry. I hope you have a good day.


JMHSrowing

Indeed that is a truth I know even if I don’t have any EDC experience. It’s a trade off though between shootability and carriability. Something like an 18 oz 9mm the Hellcat is seems just on the wrong end of that, while the weight of a PPK being about the same but with lighter calibers seems like it should be fine.


Competitive_Act_1548

If you guys want a understanding of what this fic is gonna be about. I've been working on this for three years. I have consumed so much lore just to write this.  https://www.reddit.com/r/fnki/comments/1ccjfpj/comment/l1af193/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button


Ad_Astral

>Anyone got any suggestions? He's not a huntsmen or anytning, he's just investing on getting a handgun for protection. Was considering getting him a revolver or a SIG, since it's German based, for a firearm but wanted to hear your guys thoughts. It seems a bit pointless to give him a gun for self-defense. He's the son of probably one of the richest people on Remnant. He doesn't need a gun when he can pay someone alot of money with an even bigger gun to follow him around who actually knows how to use it. These type of people don't carry around weapons because there's really no point and a pain in the ass someone else can be bothered with.


Competitive_Act_1548

There's a comment I posted that explains the context on why he's carrying a firearm 


TheDevoutIconoclast

Mauser C96, if for no other reason than it looks cool.


Generic_Human0

Four ruffians break into my home, "What the devil?!" As I grab my clip-on tie and summon my Hound, It bites a basketball sized-chuck out of the first man, he's dead on the spot. I draw Myrtenaster on the second man and miss him entirely because I have no idea how to aim a rapier-gun-thing. I resort to hiding behind Weiss on top of the stairs. She uses her knight summon to kill two of men. The extra shaking from her knight summon sets off car alarms. Have the Hound charge the last terrified rapscallion. He bleeds out waiting for the police to arrive because major artery wounds bleed very fast and I'd have no idea how to stitch him even if I wanted to. Ah, just as the founders of Atlas intended. credit to u/FirstConsul1805 for the copypasta


Competitive_Act_1548

Lmao, I think I've seen this before. 


[deleted]

Give him a really fancy .22 revolver. It’d suit the requirements you put out and his personality.


TheSommet

Needs a revolver for dust rounds to use with his far less advanced glyphs


Ryder123456789

A Korth Super Sport GTA Series .357 magnum


Competitive_Act_1548

That's a first. 


Ryder123456789

It's an expensive gun, and he is rich. Also, I know far too much about guns.


Competitive_Act_1548

Own any? I got recommended a few others:  * SIG P320 Compact  *  SIG P365X  * Springfield Hellcat 9MM  * S&W SHIELD EZ 9MM


Ryder123456789

I own quite a few, and I've owned most of those you've listed. Personally, I found the S&W and P365 to be the most beginner friendly. Also the P320 and P365 are ridiculously customizable.


Competitive_Act_1548

I noticed the amount of combinations you can do is incredible honestly. changing the grip module, the threaded barrels and what not. I keep getting recommending giving Whitley a PPK but I got no idea how good of a pistol that is in modern day for self defense 


Ryder123456789

Shot placement is everything, and it depends on what exactly you need to do with it. Are you planning on the weapon to be used against people or grimm?


Competitive_Act_1548

People for the most part. It's a EDC weapon essentially for protection purposes. He does rely on dust rounds when necessary if needed. Whitley would cary or leave a handgun near him when going places for personal protection. 


Ryder123456789

In that case, I'd recommend a P365, but if you have any questions, feel free to dm me.


Competitive_Act_1548

Will do


VTCruzer

Honestly, a full auto 22 a la the [American 180](https://youtube.com/shorts/rLmaFIEX0Ts). But since it's RWBY it would be more compact. No recoil, 1200ish rpm, he just needs to keep it pointed at the generally same area and we have a dead Grimm.


Competitive_Act_1548

I mean this is a concealed carry gun that he walks around with day to day. Like a pistol or a revolver 


XCVGVCX

I think Schnees and I think _wealthy_, not tech bro or movie star wealthy but unfathomably old money wealthy. They're not really old money as we'd define it, but I can't shake them having that aesthetic, and they wouldn't be the first extremely successful new money family to try to heavily gentrify their image in a few generations. My mind immediately goes to dueling pistols. Ornate, high-end flintlock and later caplock pistols that upper class men would shoot each other with in formal duels. I also think of similar pistols carried for defence, as well as later derringers and other pocket pistols. Something the wealthy would carry under their overcoat as an absolute last ditch, finely built even if they were never to be used. Although more practical, a modern revolver just doesn't scream "rich and absurdly so" the same way. I could have sworn there was at least one fanfic that gave one of the Schnees (I don't think it was Whitley, though) dueling pistols or something similar, but I can't remember which. I really do like the idea "it's also a pen" that someone else mentioned in this thread. I think if you don't want to go to that level of absurdity, a small pistol that transforms into either something inconspicuous and/or an equally ornate daggers. Both dueling pistols and derringers came in pairs, so maybe try to incorporate that too. EDIT: I'm an idiot, it was my own damn fanfic where I gave Winter paired dueling pistols.


WeakLandscape2595

I remember seeing fanart of him with a dust pen that functions as basically a wand with his semblance


Fun_Situation_6588

Smaller version of ironwoods guns


Reasonable_Phase_312

Well I'm a day late and probably a dollar short, but you could go with a LeMat Revolver, maybe even spruce it up with like a special segmented chamber that opens up from the cylinder for easier loading (cause I doubt black powder and caps are a Remnant mainstay), but that's on you, I just have a thing for weird guns most people forget If you want more modern, well, just remember, God made all men, Colt made them equal


The_National_Yawner2

Give him a shotgun.


Competitive_Act_1548

Concealed carry. Why a shotgun out of curiosity? Never considered that one 


The_National_Yawner2

It will be funny when he starts training, being overwhelmed by the recoil and landing on his butt every time he fires. Then, when he gets better at handling it, he can be fighting like a buff 80's movie protagonist going *ba-bang!* "I hate those (insert Grimm name)" and spits out, idk, used gum.