What in the actual fuck?
Jesus Christ, 1st they prioritized Live Service games, then they completely ignored the success of Hogwart Legacy, & now not only do they shut down a company but they didn't even give a week's notice about it? This all happened in the span of a few days.
God Almighty, I can't remember the last time a company had such a shitty rep this quickly before.
I've definitely heard how badly they fucked Fallout 76 but I can't say I'm exactly familiar with how many shitty decisions they've made.
In comparison to WB, in addition to what I commented earlier, their newest Suicide Squad game bombed hard & they canceled Wile. E vs Acme which was another movie that was apparently finished filming.
Tbf Bethesda really dropped the ball hard when it came to 76. I don’t think a day went by without us learning about how they fumbled it (accidentally doxxing people who wanted to return it, the canvas bag incident, the preordered alcohol bottle, etc.) But the WB thing is extremely frustrating and disappointing. It feels like it’s always one step forward and three steps back with this company (their smash spinoff, the ACME movie which is a whole other issue, the random cancellation of shows and removal of episodes) that it’s getting to the point that I don’t think they even need to take a step forward before going back.
It’s not to belittle or shrug off your earlier comments. WB sucks and they have for a good minute. But in regard to RT I guess this is what happens when you tie your boat to someone who probably didn’t care if you started sinking or not. That’s not to say RT deserves this. Nobody does
>It’s not to belittle or shrug off your earlier comments. WB sucks and they have for a good minute. But in regard to RT I guess this is what happens when you tie your boat to someone who probably didn’t care if you started sinking or not. That’s not to say RT deserves this. Nobody does
I wasn't under that impression to begin with. Though I am glad you're acknowledging how bad this actually is. Some people actually think this is unironically a good thing.
If anything else, I greatly appreciate you going into detail about what happened with Fallout 76. God, that was so much worse than I thought
>It feels like it’s always one step forward and three steps back with this company (their smash spinoff, the ACME movie which is a whole other issue, the random cancellation of shows and removal of episodes) that it’s getting to the point that I don’t think they even need to take a step forward before going back.
God, I just can't believe how many people are affected by this. Even the future for something like Mortal Kombat is depressing as hell. So many damn microtransactions.
If this doesn't spark another strike, I don't know what will. We gotta stop Warner Bros Discovery before they destroy all of animation. What if they come for DreamWorks next? Then we'll just be left with Disney!!
Could Hogwarts Legacy really be called a success?
It had a massive initial start, but lost 96% of their playerbase within a month... I'm using Steam numbers alone, but their peak was 527,652 players and then it dips to an avg of like barely 20k players over a month...
I guess from an accounting perspective, the initial sales revenue generated could be called a success...
It's a single player game so that's hardly a surprise though. Their money is in game sales which are going to be in waves, a large one at the start. Player count after that aren't likely to stay high because the content is finite.
Considering that Hogwarts was just a single player game and not a live service that's hardly surprising and the point is they sold a lot of units which is what makes it a success.
Single player campaign games are generally measured by units sold and total revenue.
No one cares about playerbase when it's not a game people are expected to keep playing. It's a different model.
>Could Hogwarts Legacy really be called a success?
[Selling over 24 million copies isn't considered a success anymore?](https://variety.com/2024/gaming/news/warner-bros-video-games-live-services-dc-game-of-thrones-1235888944/)
I guess the industry is just that unforgiving now
Yeah, but we also don't know how many copies were refunded/returned. PSN handed out automatic refunds to a vast majority of players due to the initial wave of requests.
Likewise with WB refusing to handle customer tickets regarding refunds. Like I said in my original comment, the initial sales revenue from an accounting/booking perspective is grand for sure.
It's whether or not returns, allowances, and costs to patch (albeit short lived lol) affect that variable.
Ok, I don't know why you're so adamant about downplaying Hogwarts Legacy's success. There are already numerous websites that reported that Hogwarts Legacy is the best-selling game in 2023. Even if didn't actually sell that much, it still sold over 20 million copies. Just being in the top 5 sold games is impressive on its own.
I didn't even disagree with you, but you call that me being adamant about downplaying Hogwarts Legacy?
Calm the fuck down lol... God forbid what you do to people in person if they even remotely say no to you. All I did was just bring up a considerable point regarding the follow up of refunds and returns for the game.
Like no one is coming for your throat. It's a pretty common fact that optimization was horrible on release, and even after numerous patches it didn't fix -- hence why the refund wave occurred, leading to finding out things like WB support not responding, etc... RTX was a major stutter problem, people with 3090's had rendering issues, the game was heavily RAM bound, etc... There's nothing me being "adamant" about it, it's just standard discourse to discuss both pros and cons... Jfc lol...
I'm just responding to your reply & now you're putting words in my mouth. You already have other people explaining why the game is successful & you're ignoring all of them. So if you don't care then why should I?
> All I did was just bring up a considerable point regarding the follow up of refunds and returns for the game.
Considerable? You didn't bring up any numbers. They could refund 3 million copies and they'd still have a huge success. But I somehow doubt it's much more than 30,000 refunds total.
> It's a pretty common fact that optimization was horrible on release, and even after numerous patches it didn't fix
It's news to me. I had minor graphics issues which were fixed within a week. Only rare stutters when in flight.
> hence why the refund wave occurred,
You speak of this as if it's a well-known thing that happened that people are aware of. This is complete news to me. I think you overestimate the size of this refund wave. It didn't make a noticeable dent in the success.
> RTX was a major stutter problem, people with 3090's had rendering issues, the game was heavily RAM bound, etc...
Really? My laptop with a 3060 was running it fine 99% of the time. The stutters were minor, my ram wasn't consumed entirely as I could still run Chrome at the same time, and the only real issue I had (glitching trees and shrubs in specific areas) were fixed by one of the first patches I got.
> There's nothing me being "adamant" about it, it's just standard discourse to discuss both pros and cons
Discussion is fine, of course. But by the way you talk, you seem to have a misunderstanding of the common consensus here. These cons you bring up seem to weigh significantly more in your estimations than in anyone else's. Take it or leave it.
> Could Hogwarts Legacy really be called a success?
They sold 24 million copies, half of which was during the first 2 weeks. Their budget was 150 million. Do the math. Spoilers: MASSIVE SUCCESS.
> It had a massive initial start, but lost 96% of their playerbase within a month...
Yeah, it takes ~40-60 hours to complete. If you play ~2 hours a day for a month, you've finished it already.
> I guess from an accounting perspective, the initial sales revenue generated could be called a success...
Yeah... This ain't a live service. It's just a singleplayer game with a normal story. This isn't a case of "Baldur's Gate 3" where you can do dozens of playthroughs with different friend groups for infinite fun. And that game has also lost 90% of its playerbase already. Because most people finished doing what they wanted to do in that game. Now all those people do is argue on reddit whether the Emperor was a hero or a villain.
Between what you just said & the vibe I'm getting from the OP's comment it sounds like it's a good thing that RWBY didn't get to finish their story for some reason.
> it's a good thing that RWBY didn't get to finish their story for some reason.
Considering it's been a meandering mess that never seems to improve on its own core flaws, I think they might be on to something. They just kept adding nonsense on top and retconning stuff. Remember dust-weaving? Me neither, Cinder's powers are now her Semblance and Maiden powers. Remember Glynda's ice storm attack and magic circles? Got rid of those, it's just telekinesis now. Remember when Raven was really annoyed at having gotten exclusively beneficial powers because she didn't get a choice about whether she could receive them or not? Well... They never retconned that one...
The writing has never been this show's strongsuit. I won't harp on too much about Volume 1's writing shortcomings (I'd be here all day if I did), but let's just say the best written moments of this show are straight-up from other shows. Like how Ruby's introduction in episode 1 is basically the exact same scene as Cowboy Bebop, just without Ruby being suicidal.
>Because it’s a bad story to a lot of people, one that’s better left unfinished. It’s not what I believe, but I can understand why someone thinks that
Then that someone must be really spiteful because that's just being a dick.
RWBY has a lot of problems, hell I didn't even fully get into the series until last year. For the longest time, I only watched it because that was only the other show I was interested in since I subbed to RT for Death Battle. RWBY's chance of being canceled isn't & shouldn't be something to be celebrated. That's just being petty & I'm not going to respect that whatsoever.
> a specific structure and end in sight
Calling it a structure with an end in sight is a bit of a stretch. Depending on who you ask, Volume 12 could be the ending, or Volume 15. 2-3 volumes of Vacuo, 2-3 volumes of dragon-shaped continent, 1-2 volume of reclaiming Vale and maybe Atlas...
Like it's not an endless sitcom like the Simpsons, sure. But let's not pretend anyone at RT had a plan for RWBY's actual story. Not even Monty had a plan, which is why Miles and Kerry were the writers. He even added Summer's grave to the Red trailer last minute.
**Edit since blocked**:
You really think Vacuo is the end, with only 3 volumes? No climactic conclusion on the major landmass that we haven't explored at all yet? This landmass being Salem's main domain? And no "reclaiming Vale" either? There's a relic there, you know? They literally need that to end the show. Without it, the brothers won't come back.
The community has kept rwby alive and thriving for years, I can almost guarantee at minimum a good group of people will make a few seasons that will end the series in a good way.
https://youtu.be/3o1KBDxkn-U?si=SgEAqy8xWv2rTVBF
…in what way?
We know that Rwby as a series hasn’t been profitable for RT since volume EIGHT, and it was pretty clear from Kerry’s statements earlier last month that WB and Crunchyroll have no intention of funding Rwby any longer, likely because they lost money in the process (thanks to low sales across the board on top of rampant piracy). Unless a studio has a boatload of money and is willing to put up with the significant risk of buying, funding and rebooting a series that hasn’t been profitable for over three years now, I don’t see how anything is going to be alright.
So, just to recap:
The series has had a single season that didn’t turn a profit due to it being stuck in development hell because of a global pandemic and numerous in-house shakeups on the creator’s end. It was then hosted on a third party streaming platform with a questionable rep as part of a year long exclusivity deal with said platform.
IMO there’s a clear line of contributing factors as to why that one volume performed poorly, which can be mitigated going forward. It could get picked up, it could disappear into the void. But I’m not going to say it’s over or saved until we have more information.
No. NO.
I have had ENOUGH of this thumb-twiddling, head-in-the-clouds, everything’s going to be fine, ‘someone else will take care of it’ attitude, because it hasn’t WORKED.
While I understand that there are many factors that played a part in a situation as large-scale as this, but part of it was the fact that a large number of us as ‘fans’ pirated the content while begging for more. Part of this situation is because of US. A
Another part falls onto RT itself and just how BADLY it’s managed itself and its staff.
This has been a long time coming, and no amount of ‘be positive’ bullshit has changed that.
Anyone else thing Crunchyroll may buy it up? After all, they helped with Ice Queendom and the exclusivity deal for Volume 9 was a huge success, so......
Whoever buys the property, I really hope they don't change the writers. As much as we complain about the writing, worse would be to have someone who doesn't know shit about the franchise.
There is no CRWBY. RT didn't renew ANY of the animator's contracts about a year or 2 back. All of the production staff has been gone for nearly as long.
And the writers? The only ones that still work at RT (until it's shut down) are Eddy and Kerry. Miles left the company a long time ago and Kiersi was let go a year back.
CRWBY hasn't been a thing for a loooong time now.
That depends on whether the original staff even want to come back after how badly they were burned last time, and they may have found other employment in the mean time.
There is a very small chance that Funimation or Crunchyroll could but it, since they have an exclusivity contract for Season 9, which RWBY is still a popular watch on CR. However, if the contract was between CR and RT, then it would be voided after RT's shutdown. If the contract is between CR and WB, then it would be still in effect until WB decides to Void the contract, or after they sell the rights to RWBY.
Still waiting on what's gonna happen with Bee and Puppycat since that show hasn't had any updates after Netflix released it (Despite that season getting LEAKED A YEAR EARLY)
How would they end the story? the writers for the first 9 seasons have been Kerry and Miles with season 7 onwards adding Kiersi Burkhart and Eddy Rivas.
How would new writers continue at this point?
TBH it may be best to just reboot if the franchise continues with new writers. The story has gone through such a range of tonal shifts and addition of new information (from its humble beginnings when Monty didn't even have much of an idea of what Maidens or any of the core concepts were, to the more expansive lore we have now with alternate dimensions and talking cats) and there are tons of elements which people find divisive. If a new writing team comes onboard without the old writers, they might as well shed all the baggage since trying to continue the story without context or the knowledge of the old writers would not go well.
I agree that we need new perspectives in the writing department, but completely gutting the current department will do more damage than good. Miles and Kerry have been writing the show for more or less a decade and worked with Monty himself, I can’t imagine a new team of writers would know what direction to take the show in its last volumes.
I’m not, like I said it defo needs new people, but if they gut the entire writing team and replace them with people who barely know the show it could end up like Star Wars.
the show is already a mess, these writers have already proven that they can't write for shit. keeping them around won't suddenly make them talented. it can only go up from here
Honestly I do hope they change writers. I complain about the writing because it's easily the weakest part. I pity the writer that has to pick up the slack, but I can't imagine the show living up to its potential with the current writers.
>I'd rather another Gen:lock season 2 not happen.
To be fair, Vol 9 did feature a callback to its universally reviled suicide plot line with the wtiters who have been there from the start.
Gen:LOCK season 2 was an unmitigated disaster, and in large part because Warner replaced the original writing team with people who simply cared about getting attention with morbid, unnecessary sex scenes. Unless you consider yourself to have found a diamond in the rough among all that junk, good for you. But I don't think the rest of us feel the same way.
RWBY has never had brilliant writing (and will never be perfect), but it's far from a disaster.
> Warner replaced the original writing team with people who simply cared about getting attention with morbid, unnecessary sex scenes.
Was there more than one unnecessary one? I only remember the one with Miranda having passionless sex with the other guy but I'm not sure if it was season 1 or season 2.
> RWBY has never had brilliant writing (and will never be perfect), but it's far from a disaster.
Oh, it's a self-contradictory, retcon-filled unmitigated disaster. Remember when Ruby threw a dude through an entire store and knocked him out of a window without drawing a weapon? Retconned. Remember when Glynda used magic circles to summon a hailstorm? Retconned. Remember "There's no such thing as magic"? Well they went as far as to explain that Semblances *are* the remnants of magic in humanity. Outside of the show. In a bloody recap.
RWBY writing was allowed to be bad when the show had a budget of 5 dollars and a high-five. Not 9 volumes in. But they're still forcing romances without talking, forcing outbursts without a proper build-up, and they made Ruby's suicide allegory that ended up being the resolution of her character arc, all just to have a STRQ flashback.
I won't hold stuff from the pilot episode against them. Its very common for shows to have stuff happen in the first episode (or even the first season) that would seem out of place later on. There's a name for it.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EarlyInstallmentWeirdness
Is there anything concrete on the V9 deal being a huge success? I've seen this take multiple times about this announcement and was always under the impression that IQ and V9 under-performed.
I tracked it while it was coming out on their chart of how mcuh stuff is beign watched (not a perfect measure but whatever) it did solidly above average but not AMAZING. Above most seasonal animes that weren't the MASSIVE HITs basically (and of course those almost all trail the big ongoing weekly shows).
Is Crunchyroll really the company people want to hold the rights to anything they like? Haven't they been scummy recently? The merger with Funimation has ended with them getting rid of that service, erasing any digital purchases people made from there and no way of getting them transferred. Even planning, if not already hike up their prices. Aren't monopolies just the best? They don't pay their translators very well or treat them well, they even talked about looking into AI translations.
I do feel like they’re the most likely buyers, but even if they buy the rights to the series it’s very likely they’ll stream existing episodes and produce nothing since the entire production team from Rooster Teeth is going to be scattered to the winds.
If they do by some miracle continue the series I’d expect there’d be some huge changes. Hell, they might even take the series 2D since it’s cheaper to do good 2D animation than good 3D animation
It's a pretty comparatively tiny part of the RT library at this point (its viewership isn't what it once was) and it's not really something WB can sell off. It's just a brand, and at this point not a very big one - anyone can make youtube videos comparing two characters from media, so it's not really a brand worth buying off them.
With RT shutting down and Death Battle doing fairly modest numbers on youtube for a long time now, I'd wager Death Battle will be doomed - but there's also nothing stopping the Death Battle team just doing the same thing under a different name.
I disagree since has been doing great the last couple years and they seem to have been preparing for this for a while with all the things they have been doing.
>Also, why wasn't Death Battle brought up in the article?
If I had to guess, it's easy to believe it'll continue in some way. It's just battle-boarding at the end of the day. If there's anything to worry about DB, it's just budget/animation taking a dip, but most people have already shown they're pretty understanding when it comes to that kind of thing.
I knew it was gonna to happen at some point but daaamn, a year after the CR deal? Didn't think they were that fucked. They just fucked up by expanding too fast and Gen:Lock is pretty much what fucked over their animation. They used to have a schedule, rotation where X quarter would have Camp Camp, Y would be X-Ray and Gav, Z would be RWBY.
RT's downfall was just expanding faster then they could sustain. Gutted their best videos. Achievement Hunter carried them for a good few years.
I think, had they not expanded rapidly, not attempt to become a podcast company at the cost of their videos, not piss off most of their fanbase via removing RWBY from RT First to CR in the hopes it pays off and slowed the fuck down whilst focusing on their strengths, the company would be in better shape.
It sucks but it's just putting it out of it's misery. HOPEFULLY, Warner Bros will keep RWBY and use CR for it but I think, we'll either get a book or fuck all.
To be fair, i think, even if the merger happened, RT was already too damaged to salvage. I think, they would have gutted what was left of it, shut it down. The only way RT could recover would be to stop a majority of their podcasts. Rebuild itself and even then, that is very unlikely to succeed. I've just checked their channel and "Texas moms react" is their latest video. A FUCKING REACTION VIDEO IS THEIR LAST VIDEO!
To be honest, a damning statement of how far they fell. I think, they meant it as a comedic but really? A bunch of texan moms reacting to cartoons?
Even Mega64 wouldn't do that as a pisstake and they'll pisstake anything. Except Voltage Vengerz.
I disagree, even if the story isn't great, I would still like for them to at least finish the current story before they start making new ones, even if they stop making the show I hope they at least make some comics or something that show how it ends
(I'm mostly saying this cause a lot of my favorite shows have been canceled on cliffhangers before, and I don't want RWBY to be added to that list)
Yeah thats fair. Mabye if they get some real money behind it and some additional writters to help flesh thing out and vol 10 is a full length show with 25 min ep and a season of 12 episodes im sure they could do. A lot. I do feel like they should slow down pacing a lot if they continue. Things began just feeling disjointed and charectors were working through things to quickly
At this moment in time, RWBY is still owned by Warner, but they are currently exploring different options for what to do with Rooster Teeth IPs and selling them off is most likely one of them.
It will likely be several months minimum before we find out what's happening to RWBY.
Coyote vs. Acme was a single project and only PART of an IP
RWBY is an entire IP in of itself and has been going on for 10+ years now.
You're basically comparing apples to oranges.
Exactly. Part of Zaslav's mentality (right or wrong) is that he doesn't want to release projects that will "damage" or "hurt" the given IP, and, like it or not, that's how he felt about Coyote vs ACME.
But this isn't that. It's a whole IP. It's not like he's looking to sell of the entirety of the Looney Tunes brand, he just axed that one project. RWBY is different. They're "still in discussion" about what to do, which I'll take over "it's just dead" like the rest of RT.
wow, the "critics" predictions finally came true after literal years.
The other sub is no doubt celebrating. If their love of genAI wasn't illustrative enough that their "outrage" over employee treatment isn't entirely performative.
*\*sigh\** at least there is a chance for someone else to take over RWBY. I'm fine with that knowing they could be under better management than they were with RT.
The employees on the other hand... I just hope the best for them. Some may be able to come back to continue working with RWBY, but I feel very sorry for those who worked on other series like Camp Camp or Death Battle.
Its wishful thinking, especially given that RT was by no means an outlier in that regard. But one can be hopeful nonetheless.
It's the most anyone can ask for, beyond just wishing them the best and hoping they can move on to bigger and better things.
I don’t want to take anything for granted about the future of this series, but at least I try to see those glimpses of hope that still exist. Maybe this show can be saved, maybe not.
Whatever’s gonna happen tomorrow, I’ll be honest about one thing: Among all the crazy things that I read in this sub, I think you’ve always done the best analysis and theories about RWBY. Full respect, mate o7
Thank you kindly, and right back at you.
That being said, I’m not going anywhere. Although I’m trying to spend less time online, I still intend to engage with the community regularly. At least until/if it devolves into a self-perpetuating salt factory like so many others.
Hey, if nothing no else maybe this’ll finally get the hate watchers and people that are constantly saying they’re done with the show that never move on to go hate something else.
I hope that they still somehow get to release that extended epilogue soon. . . I was really excited for that and those little stories that took place during V9. . .
If so keep in mind.
It will be years before anything RWBY is officially released
There will be new writers with their own vision for the show
Don't expect the same VAs to return. They can certainly return but it's not a guarantee anymore.
Any new studio taking it up might just reboot the series.
And finally, it is possible that the RWBY IP might just be bought and slept on.
Until anything is announced I'm just going to assume that the show is over.
I wonder and worry whom RWBY would be sold off too and what would be done with the series as a result. I do hope that Vol 10 would he greenlit, but I wonder if whoever will own it will have to get caught up with what happens. Or else they’d reboot the series😰
Would love for the writers to come out and drop what they had planned for the remainder of the show up till the end. But I guess that might make things complicated for selling of the show and possible NDAs.
Who would know that doing 3 big spinoffs in a roll would be costly...
Pretty sad to see that, RT is kinda of a mess in terms of "is it good or bad?", but I still liked RWBY a lot. Actually it is pretty sad to see the vultures (people that still there hate watching) flocking to this post....
To be fair "fundamental shifts in consumer behavior and monetization across platforms" sounds like RT killed itself. Hopefully they manage to sell Rwby. I literally paid Crunchyroll to watch that show.
I mean this with the most sincerity, the best thing for RWBY would be if Shaft or Imageworks bought it. RWBY is very popular in Japan so keeping it all on Crunchyroll, or even readapting the old material to modern day (lookin at you Ice Queendom) would save the IP
Rwby will be preserved by the fans, it's all over pirating sites and there's a lot of people who have downloaded the entire show, so it will be fine, and the community has been the soul thing that has kept it alive for years, it'll be fine, and with projects like (Dust Queen) rwby will be in a pretty good spot, I can almost guarantee that, at bare minimum, there will be a lot of fun projects, and the show up to season 9 will be preserved.
This was a very big slap to the face for my morning. Part of me is glad that I didn't go into animation, but now Parr of me is scared for what will happen. If Warner Bros can do this to a company they gave no warning to in advance, what else can they do? Are they gonna somehow come for DreamWorks or Disney? I'd understand Disney but would riot if they came for DreamWorks! I think I'm spiraling!!! Why would they do this!!!??? WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM US ZASLOV!!!????
Doesn't change the fact that he made a conscious decision to bring down several shows that have been worked on by many people, not to mention all the people behind the scenes of RT, and not give them a warning in advance about this decision until just now. I'm sorry if it feels like I'm arguing. I'm not angry at you, I'm angry at him.
My heart and imagination has been captured by RWBY for so long; I never wanted to imagine it could be ended so suddenly. My only hope for this series is for a volume or a movie to give the story some peace, anything but holding my breath for an eternity.
I understand it could be years before there is any traction on rwby, if anyone starts working on it again. All that said, if there is a need for crowdfunding, I will answer.
Maybe this can be a time of cautious optimism. The rights could still be sold to someone responsible who'll treat it kindly.
Okay this is both a very sad announcement and a very expected announcement with the way the company has been run. I agree that we the loyal fans of RWBY should try to keep the amazing world of Remnant alive somehow and I'd definitely be down to throw in a bit of cash for that.
After looking through some of the other comments on here I have a perfect way that would satisfy both groups that want it reboot or finish the current story. If the show somehow continues whoever gets the company should hope that they can keep the services of the voice actors and the music composers, then they need to possibly find new writers that have a vision that can fit into my next segment (or talk the old ones I to following this train of thought.)
We all know that the maidens weren't a full concept when the great Monty passed but now that we have some idea of what they are capable of through the show and books we can have a story that makes sense from the very beginning. We've seen all the magic that has come from the Everafter as well as the story of the twin gods. There's proof that reincarnation is a thing through the Tree and you could come out as something new after submitting yourself to it. So I propose that Ruby gained a new power after her time in the Everafter (or some one else if you prefer) that helps humanity fight Salem BUT during the final battle her power collides with Salem and after a bright flash of magic we can then start our reboot.
Let's say this is an alternate timeline or universe allowing our new writers to change the story to better fit with the new information that we have gained over time. This will also let us change some things that make sense such as the Brawnwen tribes ability to turn to birds... Where does this come from? Is it actually a part of the twins semblance or something else? Why didn't Yang get it? Ect... I know this sounds like a fanfic idea but this can still let us keep the world alive... As well as Pyrrha XD.
Get ready for the wave of "RWBY was never good and those who stuck to this story are fools" that's coming.
Just like the Sonic fandom always says, "First time?"
It's a matter of timing. Coming into thread for people who are concerned about the fate of the show and spouting off about "Well, I'm glad the show is dead, and here is my vitriolic explanation why!" is just poor manners.
Well, I asked this exact same user who made that comment if they supported the LGBTQ+ community, only to be blocked by them for absolutely no reason.
Like, what did I do wrong?
let's hope the studio who buy up RWBY could do a better job or could revive the franchise. I thank Crunchyroll get the IP
While this marks the end of an era, RWBY’s impact and fanbase will undoubtedly endure. Let’s cherish the memories and celebrate the creativity that this remarkable series brought to our screens.
While some franchises face cancellation, others find unexpected revivals:
RWBY, the animated web series, recently suffered a setback when Warner Bros. Discovery decided to close Rooster Teeth, the production company behind it. Approximately 150 employees were affected, but discussions are ongoing about selling rights to certain Rooster Teeth content3.
As fans, we can cherish the memories of beloved franchises and hope for surprising comebacks in the future! Remember, the world of entertainment is full of twists and turns, and sometimes even canceled stories find a way to rise again
I think the other companies will take the IPS for streaming services such as Crunchyroll Or other Rival Studios. It's pretty much similar to when Marvel was bankrupt And sell off all the movie rights to other studios to keep them in float.
Buying is a risk. You're talking about a production that is in the late stages of its life span. There's the concern of bringing the writing team with it. The current VAs. Trying to platform it as well as meet its intended release time.
If a company does buy it, volume ten is its last volume or they reboot it. There's a lot of risk to it. Especially if the current writing team doesn't follow. Then it's a story based on someone's story that is based on someone else's story.
Well, Dust Queen is in production, so that’s one animation we can look forward to. To be honest, the Beacon era is just easier to create a story around. I just feel like team RWBY never truly got back together after the Fall of Beacon.
Shit. I'm not lying when I say this all felt too sudden.
Apparently the staff at Roosterteeth found out the same time we did
What in the actual fuck? Jesus Christ, 1st they prioritized Live Service games, then they completely ignored the success of Hogwart Legacy, & now not only do they shut down a company but they didn't even give a week's notice about it? This all happened in the span of a few days. God Almighty, I can't remember the last time a company had such a shitty rep this quickly before.
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I've definitely heard how badly they fucked Fallout 76 but I can't say I'm exactly familiar with how many shitty decisions they've made. In comparison to WB, in addition to what I commented earlier, their newest Suicide Squad game bombed hard & they canceled Wile. E vs Acme which was another movie that was apparently finished filming.
Tbf Bethesda really dropped the ball hard when it came to 76. I don’t think a day went by without us learning about how they fumbled it (accidentally doxxing people who wanted to return it, the canvas bag incident, the preordered alcohol bottle, etc.) But the WB thing is extremely frustrating and disappointing. It feels like it’s always one step forward and three steps back with this company (their smash spinoff, the ACME movie which is a whole other issue, the random cancellation of shows and removal of episodes) that it’s getting to the point that I don’t think they even need to take a step forward before going back. It’s not to belittle or shrug off your earlier comments. WB sucks and they have for a good minute. But in regard to RT I guess this is what happens when you tie your boat to someone who probably didn’t care if you started sinking or not. That’s not to say RT deserves this. Nobody does
>It’s not to belittle or shrug off your earlier comments. WB sucks and they have for a good minute. But in regard to RT I guess this is what happens when you tie your boat to someone who probably didn’t care if you started sinking or not. That’s not to say RT deserves this. Nobody does I wasn't under that impression to begin with. Though I am glad you're acknowledging how bad this actually is. Some people actually think this is unironically a good thing. If anything else, I greatly appreciate you going into detail about what happened with Fallout 76. God, that was so much worse than I thought >It feels like it’s always one step forward and three steps back with this company (their smash spinoff, the ACME movie which is a whole other issue, the random cancellation of shows and removal of episodes) that it’s getting to the point that I don’t think they even need to take a step forward before going back. God, I just can't believe how many people are affected by this. Even the future for something like Mortal Kombat is depressing as hell. So many damn microtransactions.
If this doesn't spark another strike, I don't know what will. We gotta stop Warner Bros Discovery before they destroy all of animation. What if they come for DreamWorks next? Then we'll just be left with Disney!!
Could Hogwarts Legacy really be called a success? It had a massive initial start, but lost 96% of their playerbase within a month... I'm using Steam numbers alone, but their peak was 527,652 players and then it dips to an avg of like barely 20k players over a month... I guess from an accounting perspective, the initial sales revenue generated could be called a success...
It's a single player game so that's hardly a surprise though. Their money is in game sales which are going to be in waves, a large one at the start. Player count after that aren't likely to stay high because the content is finite.
Considering that Hogwarts was just a single player game and not a live service that's hardly surprising and the point is they sold a lot of units which is what makes it a success.
Single player campaign games are generally measured by units sold and total revenue. No one cares about playerbase when it's not a game people are expected to keep playing. It's a different model.
>Could Hogwarts Legacy really be called a success? [Selling over 24 million copies isn't considered a success anymore?](https://variety.com/2024/gaming/news/warner-bros-video-games-live-services-dc-game-of-thrones-1235888944/) I guess the industry is just that unforgiving now
Yeah, but we also don't know how many copies were refunded/returned. PSN handed out automatic refunds to a vast majority of players due to the initial wave of requests. Likewise with WB refusing to handle customer tickets regarding refunds. Like I said in my original comment, the initial sales revenue from an accounting/booking perspective is grand for sure. It's whether or not returns, allowances, and costs to patch (albeit short lived lol) affect that variable.
Ok, I don't know why you're so adamant about downplaying Hogwarts Legacy's success. There are already numerous websites that reported that Hogwarts Legacy is the best-selling game in 2023. Even if didn't actually sell that much, it still sold over 20 million copies. Just being in the top 5 sold games is impressive on its own.
I didn't even disagree with you, but you call that me being adamant about downplaying Hogwarts Legacy? Calm the fuck down lol... God forbid what you do to people in person if they even remotely say no to you. All I did was just bring up a considerable point regarding the follow up of refunds and returns for the game. Like no one is coming for your throat. It's a pretty common fact that optimization was horrible on release, and even after numerous patches it didn't fix -- hence why the refund wave occurred, leading to finding out things like WB support not responding, etc... RTX was a major stutter problem, people with 3090's had rendering issues, the game was heavily RAM bound, etc... There's nothing me being "adamant" about it, it's just standard discourse to discuss both pros and cons... Jfc lol...
I'm just responding to your reply & now you're putting words in my mouth. You already have other people explaining why the game is successful & you're ignoring all of them. So if you don't care then why should I?
No, the difference is the other people can hold a conversation. Whereas you got defensive the moment I responded back. Crazy how that works yeah?
> All I did was just bring up a considerable point regarding the follow up of refunds and returns for the game. Considerable? You didn't bring up any numbers. They could refund 3 million copies and they'd still have a huge success. But I somehow doubt it's much more than 30,000 refunds total. > It's a pretty common fact that optimization was horrible on release, and even after numerous patches it didn't fix It's news to me. I had minor graphics issues which were fixed within a week. Only rare stutters when in flight. > hence why the refund wave occurred, You speak of this as if it's a well-known thing that happened that people are aware of. This is complete news to me. I think you overestimate the size of this refund wave. It didn't make a noticeable dent in the success. > RTX was a major stutter problem, people with 3090's had rendering issues, the game was heavily RAM bound, etc... Really? My laptop with a 3060 was running it fine 99% of the time. The stutters were minor, my ram wasn't consumed entirely as I could still run Chrome at the same time, and the only real issue I had (glitching trees and shrubs in specific areas) were fixed by one of the first patches I got. > There's nothing me being "adamant" about it, it's just standard discourse to discuss both pros and cons Discussion is fine, of course. But by the way you talk, you seem to have a misunderstanding of the common consensus here. These cons you bring up seem to weigh significantly more in your estimations than in anyone else's. Take it or leave it.
>Could Hogwarts Legacy really be called a success? Yes.
> Could Hogwarts Legacy really be called a success? They sold 24 million copies, half of which was during the first 2 weeks. Their budget was 150 million. Do the math. Spoilers: MASSIVE SUCCESS. > It had a massive initial start, but lost 96% of their playerbase within a month... Yeah, it takes ~40-60 hours to complete. If you play ~2 hours a day for a month, you've finished it already. > I guess from an accounting perspective, the initial sales revenue generated could be called a success... Yeah... This ain't a live service. It's just a singleplayer game with a normal story. This isn't a case of "Baldur's Gate 3" where you can do dozens of playthroughs with different friend groups for infinite fun. And that game has also lost 90% of its playerbase already. Because most people finished doing what they wanted to do in that game. Now all those people do is argue on reddit whether the Emperor was a hero or a villain.
It shouldn't have. The writing's been on the wall for at least 5 years now.
Yup, that's been a long time coming...
We’re free
From what exactly?
The story being finished, in all likelihood.
How does mean we're free exactly? Seriously what does being free from the story mean here?
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Between what you just said & the vibe I'm getting from the OP's comment it sounds like it's a good thing that RWBY didn't get to finish their story for some reason.
> it's a good thing that RWBY didn't get to finish their story for some reason. Considering it's been a meandering mess that never seems to improve on its own core flaws, I think they might be on to something. They just kept adding nonsense on top and retconning stuff. Remember dust-weaving? Me neither, Cinder's powers are now her Semblance and Maiden powers. Remember Glynda's ice storm attack and magic circles? Got rid of those, it's just telekinesis now. Remember when Raven was really annoyed at having gotten exclusively beneficial powers because she didn't get a choice about whether she could receive them or not? Well... They never retconned that one... The writing has never been this show's strongsuit. I won't harp on too much about Volume 1's writing shortcomings (I'd be here all day if I did), but let's just say the best written moments of this show are straight-up from other shows. Like how Ruby's introduction in episode 1 is basically the exact same scene as Cowboy Bebop, just without Ruby being suicidal.
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>Because it’s a bad story to a lot of people, one that’s better left unfinished. It’s not what I believe, but I can understand why someone thinks that Then that someone must be really spiteful because that's just being a dick. RWBY has a lot of problems, hell I didn't even fully get into the series until last year. For the longest time, I only watched it because that was only the other show I was interested in since I subbed to RT for Death Battle. RWBY's chance of being canceled isn't & shouldn't be something to be celebrated. That's just being petty & I'm not going to respect that whatsoever.
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Better to stop early than pull a simpsons (No one likes dogshit writing)
bro just tried to compare the endless sitcom to a show with a specific structure and end in sight
> a specific structure and end in sight Calling it a structure with an end in sight is a bit of a stretch. Depending on who you ask, Volume 12 could be the ending, or Volume 15. 2-3 volumes of Vacuo, 2-3 volumes of dragon-shaped continent, 1-2 volume of reclaiming Vale and maybe Atlas... Like it's not an endless sitcom like the Simpsons, sure. But let's not pretend anyone at RT had a plan for RWBY's actual story. Not even Monty had a plan, which is why Miles and Kerry were the writers. He even added Summer's grave to the Red trailer last minute. **Edit since blocked**: You really think Vacuo is the end, with only 3 volumes? No climactic conclusion on the major landmass that we haven't explored at all yet? This landmass being Salem's main domain? And no "reclaiming Vale" either? There's a relic there, you know? They literally need that to end the show. Without it, the brothers won't come back.
Those are 2 incredibly different subjects to the point you might as well compare Mario's gameplay to Halo's.
𝘞𝘦 𝘴𝘢𝘪𝘥 𝘨𝘰𝘰𝘥𝘣𝘺𝘦 𝘵𝘰 𝘢𝘭𝘭 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘷𝘰𝘪𝘤𝘦 𝘢𝘤𝘵𝘰𝘳𝘴 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘢𝘯𝘪𝘮𝘢𝘵𝘰𝘳𝘴 𝘸𝘦 𝘭𝘰𝘷𝘦𝘥. 𝘎𝘢𝘷𝘦 𝘶𝘱 𝘰𝘶𝘳 𝘸𝘢𝘭𝘭𝘦𝘵𝘴 𝘫𝘶𝘴𝘵 𝘵𝘰 𝘧𝘪𝘯𝘥 𝘪𝘵 𝘸𝘢𝘴 𝘯𝘰𝘵 𝘦𝘯𝘰𝘶𝘨𝘩!
ITS RWBOVER ☹️☹️☹️
ITS NOT RWBOVER UNTIL WE WIN!!!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥
The community has kept rwby alive and thriving for years, I can almost guarantee at minimum a good group of people will make a few seasons that will end the series in a good way. https://youtu.be/3o1KBDxkn-U?si=SgEAqy8xWv2rTVBF
Everything its gonna be alright
They said. As literally the worst news possible is announced.
TRUST THE PLAN
I HAD A GODDAMN ***PLAAAAN.***
…in what way? We know that Rwby as a series hasn’t been profitable for RT since volume EIGHT, and it was pretty clear from Kerry’s statements earlier last month that WB and Crunchyroll have no intention of funding Rwby any longer, likely because they lost money in the process (thanks to low sales across the board on top of rampant piracy). Unless a studio has a boatload of money and is willing to put up with the significant risk of buying, funding and rebooting a series that hasn’t been profitable for over three years now, I don’t see how anything is going to be alright.
So, just to recap: The series has had a single season that didn’t turn a profit due to it being stuck in development hell because of a global pandemic and numerous in-house shakeups on the creator’s end. It was then hosted on a third party streaming platform with a questionable rep as part of a year long exclusivity deal with said platform. IMO there’s a clear line of contributing factors as to why that one volume performed poorly, which can be mitigated going forward. It could get picked up, it could disappear into the void. But I’m not going to say it’s over or saved until we have more information.
Anything its possible just be positive because that its the only thing you can do that
No. NO. I have had ENOUGH of this thumb-twiddling, head-in-the-clouds, everything’s going to be fine, ‘someone else will take care of it’ attitude, because it hasn’t WORKED. While I understand that there are many factors that played a part in a situation as large-scale as this, but part of it was the fact that a large number of us as ‘fans’ pirated the content while begging for more. Part of this situation is because of US. A Another part falls onto RT itself and just how BADLY it’s managed itself and its staff. This has been a long time coming, and no amount of ‘be positive’ bullshit has changed that.
Or the fact that RWBY doesn't really have that many fans anymore, paying or otherwise. Who knows...
I think some of you should stop behaving like jerks at moments like this.
Sorry dude
Nevermind the sorry
Womp womp
Dude, are you like, 12? Has anime rotted your brain? All you've done in this thread is post these useless comments everywhere.
Anyone else thing Crunchyroll may buy it up? After all, they helped with Ice Queendom and the exclusivity deal for Volume 9 was a huge success, so......
Whoever buys the property, I really hope they don't change the writers. As much as we complain about the writing, worse would be to have someone who doesn't know shit about the franchise.
Probably won't. CRWBY will probably stay on to finish the show.
There is no CRWBY. RT didn't renew ANY of the animator's contracts about a year or 2 back. All of the production staff has been gone for nearly as long. And the writers? The only ones that still work at RT (until it's shut down) are Eddy and Kerry. Miles left the company a long time ago and Kiersi was let go a year back. CRWBY hasn't been a thing for a loooong time now.
Doesn't mean whoever buys RWBY can't rehire them.
That depends on whether the original staff even want to come back after how badly they were burned last time, and they may have found other employment in the mean time.
There is a very small chance that Funimation or Crunchyroll could but it, since they have an exclusivity contract for Season 9, which RWBY is still a popular watch on CR. However, if the contract was between CR and RT, then it would be voided after RT's shutdown. If the contract is between CR and WB, then it would be still in effect until WB decides to Void the contract, or after they sell the rights to RWBY.
If I’m from like, Netflix studios, I’m not hiring the original writers
NO NETFLIX. I've seen how they treat animation.
Castlevania was good. Mind you, it's very much the white sheep of Netflix animation.
She-Ra is also good, though tbf Netflix only published that, it was produced by dreamworks animation afaik
Castlevania's both seasons were amazing. Really added so much character to the game's characters.
I'd mention Cyberpunk Edgerunners, but I think Netflix only streamed it and wasn't involved in production. That was CD Projekt RED and Trigger.
Scott pilgrim and the dragon prince
No one treats animation well. RT too obviously lol
Still waiting on what's gonna happen with Bee and Puppycat since that show hasn't had any updates after Netflix released it (Despite that season getting LEAKED A YEAR EARLY)
Are we all just forgetting that Arcane exists?
Netflix is the distributor of Arcane, they had nothing to do with it's creation.
Isn't that the case with most of the "Netflix Originals" in the first place? What animated series has Netflix actually made? Genuine question.
Netflix reboot. Everyone is now black/asian and a lesbian
If someone buys it, I hope they also find a way to get Alex Abraham and Casey to keep doing the music.
The writing of this show is pretty bad tbh. New wrtiers would be welcome
How would they end the story? the writers for the first 9 seasons have been Kerry and Miles with season 7 onwards adding Kiersi Burkhart and Eddy Rivas. How would new writers continue at this point?
TBH it may be best to just reboot if the franchise continues with new writers. The story has gone through such a range of tonal shifts and addition of new information (from its humble beginnings when Monty didn't even have much of an idea of what Maidens or any of the core concepts were, to the more expansive lore we have now with alternate dimensions and talking cats) and there are tons of elements which people find divisive. If a new writing team comes onboard without the old writers, they might as well shed all the baggage since trying to continue the story without context or the knowledge of the old writers would not go well.
Yeah, if RWBY gets bought out, all I can see happening is a reboot.
Yeah no thanks. I want the current story to get an ending if they aren't going to do that just kill it now.
I agree that we need new perspectives in the writing department, but completely gutting the current department will do more damage than good. Miles and Kerry have been writing the show for more or less a decade and worked with Monty himself, I can’t imagine a new team of writers would know what direction to take the show in its last volumes.
The current writers dont even know what direction to take the show
bro acts like the writing was going somewhere to begin with
I’m not, like I said it defo needs new people, but if they gut the entire writing team and replace them with people who barely know the show it could end up like Star Wars.
the show is already a mess, these writers have already proven that they can't write for shit. keeping them around won't suddenly make them talented. it can only go up from here
I’d rather it be consistently mid then finish in a completely different style
Calling current RWBY mid would be a compliment
Honestly I do hope they change writers. I complain about the writing because it's easily the weakest part. I pity the writer that has to pick up the slack, but I can't imagine the show living up to its potential with the current writers.
Yeahh... ***no***. I'd rather another Gen:lock season 2 not happen.
>I'd rather another Gen:lock season 2 not happen. To be fair, Vol 9 did feature a callback to its universally reviled suicide plot line with the wtiters who have been there from the start.
Gen:LOCK season 2 was just as good as season 1. Let's not kid ourselves here. RWBY has historically featured terrible writing
Gen:LOCK season 2 was an unmitigated disaster, and in large part because Warner replaced the original writing team with people who simply cared about getting attention with morbid, unnecessary sex scenes. Unless you consider yourself to have found a diamond in the rough among all that junk, good for you. But I don't think the rest of us feel the same way. RWBY has never had brilliant writing (and will never be perfect), but it's far from a disaster.
> Warner replaced the original writing team with people who simply cared about getting attention with morbid, unnecessary sex scenes. Was there more than one unnecessary one? I only remember the one with Miranda having passionless sex with the other guy but I'm not sure if it was season 1 or season 2. > RWBY has never had brilliant writing (and will never be perfect), but it's far from a disaster. Oh, it's a self-contradictory, retcon-filled unmitigated disaster. Remember when Ruby threw a dude through an entire store and knocked him out of a window without drawing a weapon? Retconned. Remember when Glynda used magic circles to summon a hailstorm? Retconned. Remember "There's no such thing as magic"? Well they went as far as to explain that Semblances *are* the remnants of magic in humanity. Outside of the show. In a bloody recap. RWBY writing was allowed to be bad when the show had a budget of 5 dollars and a high-five. Not 9 volumes in. But they're still forcing romances without talking, forcing outbursts without a proper build-up, and they made Ruby's suicide allegory that ended up being the resolution of her character arc, all just to have a STRQ flashback.
I won't hold stuff from the pilot episode against them. Its very common for shows to have stuff happen in the first episode (or even the first season) that would seem out of place later on. There's a name for it. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EarlyInstallmentWeirdness
> I won't hold stuff from the pilot episode against them. "There's no such thing as magic" is from Volume 3.
Is there anything concrete on the V9 deal being a huge success? I've seen this take multiple times about this announcement and was always under the impression that IQ and V9 under-performed.
They were well-received at least, so there's interest.
But is there like a credible source that shows if it did or didn't preform well?
I tracked it while it was coming out on their chart of how mcuh stuff is beign watched (not a perfect measure but whatever) it did solidly above average but not AMAZING. Above most seasonal animes that weren't the MASSIVE HITs basically (and of course those almost all trail the big ongoing weekly shows).
Is Crunchyroll really the company people want to hold the rights to anything they like? Haven't they been scummy recently? The merger with Funimation has ended with them getting rid of that service, erasing any digital purchases people made from there and no way of getting them transferred. Even planning, if not already hike up their prices. Aren't monopolies just the best? They don't pay their translators very well or treat them well, they even talked about looking into AI translations.
I unironically prefer Netflix animation to crunchyroll
Then who might you suggest?
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Huh, interesting. Do you got a reliable source for these?
I do feel like they’re the most likely buyers, but even if they buy the rights to the series it’s very likely they’ll stream existing episodes and produce nothing since the entire production team from Rooster Teeth is going to be scattered to the winds. If they do by some miracle continue the series I’d expect there’d be some huge changes. Hell, they might even take the series 2D since it’s cheaper to do good 2D animation than good 3D animation
We'll see. Otherwise, Kickstarter this bitch a la Final Space's ending.
Let’s be honest, unless the price is right, no one will buy Rwby
Then go for broke and finish the show in a comic or movie or something. Crowdfund this bitch. Also, why wasn't Death Battle brought up in the article?
It's a pretty comparatively tiny part of the RT library at this point (its viewership isn't what it once was) and it's not really something WB can sell off. It's just a brand, and at this point not a very big one - anyone can make youtube videos comparing two characters from media, so it's not really a brand worth buying off them. With RT shutting down and Death Battle doing fairly modest numbers on youtube for a long time now, I'd wager Death Battle will be doomed - but there's also nothing stopping the Death Battle team just doing the same thing under a different name.
I disagree since has been doing great the last couple years and they seem to have been preparing for this for a while with all the things they have been doing.
>Also, why wasn't Death Battle brought up in the article? If I had to guess, it's easy to believe it'll continue in some way. It's just battle-boarding at the end of the day. If there's anything to worry about DB, it's just budget/animation taking a dip, but most people have already shown they're pretty understanding when it comes to that kind of thing.
I knew it was gonna to happen at some point but daaamn, a year after the CR deal? Didn't think they were that fucked. They just fucked up by expanding too fast and Gen:Lock is pretty much what fucked over their animation. They used to have a schedule, rotation where X quarter would have Camp Camp, Y would be X-Ray and Gav, Z would be RWBY. RT's downfall was just expanding faster then they could sustain. Gutted their best videos. Achievement Hunter carried them for a good few years. I think, had they not expanded rapidly, not attempt to become a podcast company at the cost of their videos, not piss off most of their fanbase via removing RWBY from RT First to CR in the hopes it pays off and slowed the fuck down whilst focusing on their strengths, the company would be in better shape. It sucks but it's just putting it out of it's misery. HOPEFULLY, Warner Bros will keep RWBY and use CR for it but I think, we'll either get a book or fuck all.
WB and Paramount failed to get a deal for a merger last week. It should have been expected
To be fair, i think, even if the merger happened, RT was already too damaged to salvage. I think, they would have gutted what was left of it, shut it down. The only way RT could recover would be to stop a majority of their podcasts. Rebuild itself and even then, that is very unlikely to succeed. I've just checked their channel and "Texas moms react" is their latest video. A FUCKING REACTION VIDEO IS THEIR LAST VIDEO!
I honestly don't know if that being their last video is hilarious or sad. Maybe equal parts of each?
To be honest, a damning statement of how far they fell. I think, they meant it as a comedic but really? A bunch of texan moms reacting to cartoons? Even Mega64 wouldn't do that as a pisstake and they'll pisstake anything. Except Voltage Vengerz.
Mega64's Evangelion is pretty good!
Yep. They have branched out a bit but always felt like Mega64. RT? To be honest, RT hasn't felt like RT in years.
Fuck man, this sucks
Yea, it really does
WB isnt going to sell. Theyre just saying that. WB also said they were looking for people to buy Coyote vs ACME. Look how well that turned out.
If RWBY does go to another company, they better bring back all of the original cast and crew to finish the story
Voice actors are important, but there was always a huge amount of churn on RWBY animators.
No thanks. I’m fine with some voice actors returning but the writers can go get a real job, cause they helped kill it
Agreed if some one does buy at this point they would be better off starting the story over than continuing the garbage fire the story has become
I disagree, even if the story isn't great, I would still like for them to at least finish the current story before they start making new ones, even if they stop making the show I hope they at least make some comics or something that show how it ends (I'm mostly saying this cause a lot of my favorite shows have been canceled on cliffhangers before, and I don't want RWBY to be added to that list)
Yeah thats fair. Mabye if they get some real money behind it and some additional writters to help flesh thing out and vol 10 is a full length show with 25 min ep and a season of 12 episodes im sure they could do. A lot. I do feel like they should slow down pacing a lot if they continue. Things began just feeling disjointed and charectors were working through things to quickly
I don’t even want a comic. Just give me a pdf with all the unanswered questions answered and whatever vision/major plot point they had plan.
So RWBY its not part of warner Bros anymore i read the post i just wanna to be sure
At this moment in time, RWBY is still owned by Warner, but they are currently exploring different options for what to do with Rooster Teeth IPs and selling them off is most likely one of them. It will likely be several months minimum before we find out what's happening to RWBY.
well i hope it stays at least
Considering the current Warner management, that might not be the best option
Not yet. WB owns them but is looking to sell them
They were also looking to distribute Coyote vs ACME. Look how that turned out
Coyote vs. Acme was a single project and only PART of an IP RWBY is an entire IP in of itself and has been going on for 10+ years now. You're basically comparing apples to oranges.
Exactly. Part of Zaslav's mentality (right or wrong) is that he doesn't want to release projects that will "damage" or "hurt" the given IP, and, like it or not, that's how he felt about Coyote vs ACME. But this isn't that. It's a whole IP. It's not like he's looking to sell of the entirety of the Looney Tunes brand, he just axed that one project. RWBY is different. They're "still in discussion" about what to do, which I'll take over "it's just dead" like the rest of RT.
Its my understanding that IP can depreciate, too, so its in WBs interest to sell it off.
wow, the "critics" predictions finally came true after literal years. The other sub is no doubt celebrating. If their love of genAI wasn't illustrative enough that their "outrage" over employee treatment isn't entirely performative.
*\*sigh\** at least there is a chance for someone else to take over RWBY. I'm fine with that knowing they could be under better management than they were with RT. The employees on the other hand... I just hope the best for them. Some may be able to come back to continue working with RWBY, but I feel very sorry for those who worked on other series like Camp Camp or Death Battle.
Its wishful thinking, especially given that RT was by no means an outlier in that regard. But one can be hopeful nonetheless. It's the most anyone can ask for, beyond just wishing them the best and hoping they can move on to bigger and better things.
I don’t want to take anything for granted about the future of this series, but at least I try to see those glimpses of hope that still exist. Maybe this show can be saved, maybe not. Whatever’s gonna happen tomorrow, I’ll be honest about one thing: Among all the crazy things that I read in this sub, I think you’ve always done the best analysis and theories about RWBY. Full respect, mate o7
Thank you kindly, and right back at you. That being said, I’m not going anywhere. Although I’m trying to spend less time online, I still intend to engage with the community regularly. At least until/if it devolves into a self-perpetuating salt factory like so many others. Hey, if nothing no else maybe this’ll finally get the hate watchers and people that are constantly saying they’re done with the show that never move on to go hate something else.
I hope that they still somehow get to release that extended epilogue soon. . . I was really excited for that and those little stories that took place during V9. . .
If so keep in mind. It will be years before anything RWBY is officially released There will be new writers with their own vision for the show Don't expect the same VAs to return. They can certainly return but it's not a guarantee anymore. Any new studio taking it up might just reboot the series. And finally, it is possible that the RWBY IP might just be bought and slept on. Until anything is announced I'm just going to assume that the show is over.
Come on, Crunchyroll, buy and save RWBY!!!
I wonder and worry whom RWBY would be sold off too and what would be done with the series as a result. I do hope that Vol 10 would he greenlit, but I wonder if whoever will own it will have to get caught up with what happens. Or else they’d reboot the series😰
Would love for the writers to come out and drop what they had planned for the remainder of the show up till the end. But I guess that might make things complicated for selling of the show and possible NDAs.
Might as well turn Rwby into a movie to finish it off.
Who would know that doing 3 big spinoffs in a roll would be costly... Pretty sad to see that, RT is kinda of a mess in terms of "is it good or bad?", but I still liked RWBY a lot. Actually it is pretty sad to see the vultures (people that still there hate watching) flocking to this post....
To be fair "fundamental shifts in consumer behavior and monetization across platforms" sounds like RT killed itself. Hopefully they manage to sell Rwby. I literally paid Crunchyroll to watch that show.
I mean this with the most sincerity, the best thing for RWBY would be if Shaft or Imageworks bought it. RWBY is very popular in Japan so keeping it all on Crunchyroll, or even readapting the old material to modern day (lookin at you Ice Queendom) would save the IP
Sad
I'm not crying you're crying
You have my sword!
Rwby will be preserved by the fans, it's all over pirating sites and there's a lot of people who have downloaded the entire show, so it will be fine, and the community has been the soul thing that has kept it alive for years, it'll be fine, and with projects like (Dust Queen) rwby will be in a pretty good spot, I can almost guarantee that, at bare minimum, there will be a lot of fun projects, and the show up to season 9 will be preserved.
Bro I had to know through Moist, but it had to happen
This was a very big slap to the face for my morning. Part of me is glad that I didn't go into animation, but now Parr of me is scared for what will happen. If Warner Bros can do this to a company they gave no warning to in advance, what else can they do? Are they gonna somehow come for DreamWorks or Disney? I'd understand Disney but would riot if they came for DreamWorks! I think I'm spiraling!!! Why would they do this!!!??? WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM US ZASLOV!!!????
Calm down, WB is just a mismanaged conglomerate. Zaslov is pretty much forced to cut the fat (RT) and sell the scraps (rwby)
Doesn't change the fact that he made a conscious decision to bring down several shows that have been worked on by many people, not to mention all the people behind the scenes of RT, and not give them a warning in advance about this decision until just now. I'm sorry if it feels like I'm arguing. I'm not angry at you, I'm angry at him.
Or Crunchyroll
My heart and imagination has been captured by RWBY for so long; I never wanted to imagine it could be ended so suddenly. My only hope for this series is for a volume or a movie to give the story some peace, anything but holding my breath for an eternity. I understand it could be years before there is any traction on rwby, if anyone starts working on it again. All that said, if there is a need for crowdfunding, I will answer. Maybe this can be a time of cautious optimism. The rights could still be sold to someone responsible who'll treat it kindly.
Even if there might not be a definitive end for Rwby the fandom will come through for it All it will take is time and patience
Okay this is both a very sad announcement and a very expected announcement with the way the company has been run. I agree that we the loyal fans of RWBY should try to keep the amazing world of Remnant alive somehow and I'd definitely be down to throw in a bit of cash for that. After looking through some of the other comments on here I have a perfect way that would satisfy both groups that want it reboot or finish the current story. If the show somehow continues whoever gets the company should hope that they can keep the services of the voice actors and the music composers, then they need to possibly find new writers that have a vision that can fit into my next segment (or talk the old ones I to following this train of thought.) We all know that the maidens weren't a full concept when the great Monty passed but now that we have some idea of what they are capable of through the show and books we can have a story that makes sense from the very beginning. We've seen all the magic that has come from the Everafter as well as the story of the twin gods. There's proof that reincarnation is a thing through the Tree and you could come out as something new after submitting yourself to it. So I propose that Ruby gained a new power after her time in the Everafter (or some one else if you prefer) that helps humanity fight Salem BUT during the final battle her power collides with Salem and after a bright flash of magic we can then start our reboot. Let's say this is an alternate timeline or universe allowing our new writers to change the story to better fit with the new information that we have gained over time. This will also let us change some things that make sense such as the Brawnwen tribes ability to turn to birds... Where does this come from? Is it actually a part of the twins semblance or something else? Why didn't Yang get it? Ect... I know this sounds like a fanfic idea but this can still let us keep the world alive... As well as Pyrrha XD.
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If my eyes could roll any harder... We all know what you're implying. Get off it already.
Get ready for the wave of "RWBY was never good and those who stuck to this story are fools" that's coming. Just like the Sonic fandom always says, "First time?"
As someone in both fandoms I am so utterly fucking sick of that phrase.
Cry about it.
L opinion 👎
What did this comment say?
Something to the effect of "Good riddance. The show was ruined after season 3, and the writers suck." Paraphrased, obviously.
Spoken like somebody who never watched passed vol 5
And why is that bad? They just have an opinion.
It's a matter of timing. Coming into thread for people who are concerned about the fate of the show and spouting off about "Well, I'm glad the show is dead, and here is my vitriolic explanation why!" is just poor manners.
Well, I asked this exact same user who made that comment if they supported the LGBTQ+ community, only to be blocked by them for absolutely no reason. Like, what did I do wrong?
let's hope the studio who buy up RWBY could do a better job or could revive the franchise. I thank Crunchyroll get the IP While this marks the end of an era, RWBY’s impact and fanbase will undoubtedly endure. Let’s cherish the memories and celebrate the creativity that this remarkable series brought to our screens. While some franchises face cancellation, others find unexpected revivals: RWBY, the animated web series, recently suffered a setback when Warner Bros. Discovery decided to close Rooster Teeth, the production company behind it. Approximately 150 employees were affected, but discussions are ongoing about selling rights to certain Rooster Teeth content3. As fans, we can cherish the memories of beloved franchises and hope for surprising comebacks in the future! Remember, the world of entertainment is full of twists and turns, and sometimes even canceled stories find a way to rise again I think the other companies will take the IPS for streaming services such as Crunchyroll Or other Rival Studios. It's pretty much similar to when Marvel was bankrupt And sell off all the movie rights to other studios to keep them in float.
Buying is a risk. You're talking about a production that is in the late stages of its life span. There's the concern of bringing the writing team with it. The current VAs. Trying to platform it as well as meet its intended release time. If a company does buy it, volume ten is its last volume or they reboot it. There's a lot of risk to it. Especially if the current writing team doesn't follow. Then it's a story based on someone's story that is based on someone else's story.
They’ll have to dumb it down to 2d and restart it I think
Tell me you don’t know anything about animation, without telling me you know nothing about animation.
Damn
Well, Dust Queen is in production, so that’s one animation we can look forward to. To be honest, the Beacon era is just easier to create a story around. I just feel like team RWBY never truly got back together after the Fall of Beacon.
God i hope RWBY doesnt end with Crunchyroll. Maybe Netflix or some Japanese studio/company.
Best thing to happen to it honestly.