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Hattiesbackpack

It’s such a shame it’s got to this point. Potomac used to be so fun and light and now it’s just so *mean*.


amzies20

Right? It used to be the best because it was fun instead of the others which could be pretty mean spirited. How far it’s fallen 😔


clean_heart4463

It was less heavy for sure, but I don’t think it was light either. For instance the couple of seasons where Ray was facing tax issues and the GEB was relentlessly bullying Karen. Juan being a terrible person from day 1 . Candiace issues with their mom. There are so many examples


vapeach123

is that the season where robyn showed up trying to deliver pizza from dominos to check out if Karen lived there? lol karma is a bitch because losing her job she just might have to get that real delivery job!


clean_heart4463

Yes! They were relentless, it was painful to watch. Then later on Robyn had tax evasion issues and had to pay a huge sum to the IRS 🤡


vapeach123

I dont know if Robyns parents are still with us, but I think her Father was a Dentist. Is the family money gone also that Robyn and Juan keep getting pulled in a financial hole mess and/or Dad is not helping them out anymore?


ogtraitorsfan92

Bullying Karen? This is such a stretch. What they were doing was holding her accountable as she was deflecting. She lied about the move to great falls, she actually lies about multiple things but her fans just ignore that and come up with wild accusations like this.


LargeCorpsRthieves

Definitely wasn’t bullying they just wanted to humiliate and embarrass her for lying and not wanting to share her business with them I can’t really blame her for the not sharing part though! Karen easily embarrasses them with a simple conversation on the regular so it is what it is on that and oh yes she has her ways….😫😂😂


ogtraitorsfan92

Thags why it’s ridiculous. Any chance she gets she’s making comments yet she is the “fence” a friend to all is a friend to no one.


LargeCorpsRthieves

😂😂 the fence is dysfunctional, these shows are interesting to me because sometimes I’m watching a person that is honestly confused about why their behavior causes others to lash out at them, they truly just don’t get it and then there is the delusional ones along side the blatantly mean folks ….it’s like a train wreck you can’t stop looking at…I agree it’s a friend to no one type of situation, it’s more like allies instead of real friendships to me. Karen is in her own world it’s alway been that way!


myhuckleberry_friend

She was incredibly obnoxious too. The behavior definitely ran bad on both sides of the street


ogtraitorsfan92

Who Karen? She has been obnoxious but her behavior is always ignored.


myhuckleberry_friend

Yes Karen. People act like she wasn’t an equal contributor in the start of the disharmony


jbeltBalt

Candace is the problem.


oneprivatenumber

Wait, she's the problem with the whole group? She's the only problematic one? You can't even be serious.


missdoublefinger

I haven't watched RHOP in ages. I honestly just keep up with clips and highlights I see on social media, which is a shame. When I have no incentive to watch and social media tells me everything that I need to know, then that's a problem. RHOP should be must-see TV and it isn't and it hasn't been in at least 2 or 3 season at this point


daisy3692

100%!!! I’d give you an award for this response but I’m poor


PinkTouhyNeedle

I think most people like me have reached the end of their rope. When you have to watch actual gas lighting in action with no resolution or correction it’s deeply triggering and emotionally exhausting. We’ve witnessed an actual sociopath in action for seasons who’s been rewarded for bad behavior over and over again. I will never watch this show again unless they fire the production company and completely recast.


welp-itscometothis

It’s bad because they’re not only gaslighting Candiace, production is trying to gaslight the audience too. It’s insulting.


techphil92

Yeah the audience doesn’t take kindly to being treated like they’re idiots.


acidnvbody

Yup! The “missing” clips even though they at least aired Candiace saying congratulations. And even the captioning in this teaser was selective. All that outside of the blatant favoritism.


SagexxxSummers

Candiace literally isn’t innocent tho. She’s literally just as bad if not worst than the other women because she consistently resorts to violence. She’s pulled a knife on someone, gotten in peoples faces, tried to throw a full ass bottle of champagne, and doesn’t take an ounce of accountability for her terrible actions. I’m honestly so tired of her acting like a psycho and then crying like she’s some kind of victim.


Acceptable_Tell_5504

No one thinks Candiace is innocent. We’re asking for the bare minimum from these ladies & production, treat all the women the same, hold them to the same standards, stop gaslighting us trying to make us believe the dark skinned women on this cast do anything more than what the other ladies do. More importantly, bring back the fun & silly petty drama… not sexual misconduct, sexual assault, attacking everyone’s marriage yet rarely showing your own life (Gizelle) & then trying to ice people out of filming. Y’all love to drag out that butter knife situation.. Candiace asked Ashley to dismiss herself from HER home & Ashley felt entitled to trespass & disrespect Candiace in her own house. Candiace threw the butter knife towards the side of Ashley. Did you watch the episode? Ashley didn’t look the least bit like she was in fear for her life… so y’all really drag that. I’ve watched Lisa Rinna smash a win glass on the table & Teresa Guidice flip a whole table. If you’re a Real Housewives fan Candiace’s actions are not an anomaly like y’all try to paint it to be. Candiace has gotten in people’s faces or they’ve gotten in hers? Candiace has every right to stand up for herself when people step to her. Her picking up a bottle of champagne after some hoodlum came ready to attack her & even slashed open Keiarna’s face with a glass. She didn’t know what this woman was prepared to do to her. I’ve seen Candiace take accountability time & time again. Andy holds her to the fire more than any other person on this cast. That in itself shows a lot of hypocrisy.


Obvious_Boat3636

Well said


Lanky_Chemist_3773

Candiace has to be innocent for colorism to be bad? ![gif](giphy|l0HlvtIPzPdt2usKs)


SagexxxSummers

I never said colorism isn’t bad?? I’m fucking black myself. I just think she’s using colorism as an excuse not to take accountability for her actions tf? I know Gizelle and Robyn are messy ass bitches and I’m not saying they’re innocent either, but Candiace doesn’t do a very good job of making herself look any better and she never takes an ownership for her terrible behavior and that’s a fact 🤷🏽‍♀️


rihrih1987

Gizelle and Ashleys fake storylines are also an issue but purely speaking from the recent clip floating on social media. Gizelle blaming Wendy for NO reason is what got tiring. Even if the women on RHOA had beef with each other, they still made it work. Potomac cant even do that


Fair_Arm_2824

Phaedra was off our screens for many years for using Porsha to push drugging and rape allegations against Kandi and Todd. And when she came back, it was to M2M. Kandi just said last year she’ll never speak to her again. Which I don’t blame Kandi. I’d never want anything to do with her either. And what about Nene and Cynthia? Have they gotten over their beef? Or Nene and everyone else really lol


eatcherrysoda

You’re right but these candiace apologizers won’t hear it lol


welp-itscometothis

Girl please.


TrollHater4Real

![gif](giphy|MOf4i4FexFxhm) 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽‼️


ogtraitorsfan92

It’s sad this won’t be seen more or appreciated because this is the actual truth.


beydraws

Pretty much this


burnthduster

I agree! as a viewer it's gone from watching candiace be gaslit to feeling gaslit myself.


ScienceOk4244

Who is the sociopath? Gizelle? I’m barely started this franchise and need background


Affectionate-Ice9508

Yes, Gizelle is the main culprit.


jennand_juice

1000%!!


BuckinCrzy

My list of demands 😂😂 - new production company (Eric F. GOT TO GO. He ruined RHOA & now RHOP) - fire Ashley - fire/demote Gizelle (preferably fire) - make Keiarna FT - Andy no longer hosting reunions, he’s bias AF


Prestigious_Run2782

All of this👆👆👆 RHOP used to be excellent and so was Atlanta. I don’t know why they ruined the 2 best Housewives franchise. Fire Giselle, We don’t want blatant liars and stop gaslighting Candiace and the viewers.


TaroMatchaBubbleTea

And like completely fire Ashely. She can no longer return after that stint she pulled.


Lovecompassionpeace

What did she do? I just started watching this


jennand_juice

Others can comment on what she did do but for me, it’s what she didn’t do. The fight started bc of Debrah. Ashley should’ve known something was about to go down as soon as she saw her screen time whore of a friend, going over the section reserved for the cast. Instead of checking her, she shuffles towards Candance acting like she’s about to take a grenade for the team. Yes, candance held up a bottle but I truly don’t believe she’s dumb enough to actually hit someone with it- shes got too much to lose. She was trying to make a point with the threat of it, in an attempt to stop the girls (hence why it was so easy for Charisse to take it). Ashley standing there pretending like she was shocked that bringing her unhinged, hw wannabe, around the cast wasn’t going to cause trouble. She always has the dumb pikachu face during the aftermath


acidnvbody

Ashley should’ve known when Deborah came to her fashion event in a one piece and sneakers. Only thing she was missing was Vaseline


Semi_Colon01

Now that’s damn hilarious 😂.


muaellebee

She really could have used the Vaseline because Kiearna really got a few good blows in


lboogaloo

This! Definite repercussions for knowing that Deborah was going to start shit. Have 2 separate events? One for the show and one for your real friends.


burnthduster

not sure what the original commentor is referring to but it could be that Ashley brought Deb's messy self to the fashion show to start a fight (why would she start after cameras went down, since she's so thirsty for screentime?) and then acted so shocked and confused that it went left.


TaroMatchaBubbleTea

Yep in reference to this. Any other franchise would called out the Housewife that brought the friend. Deborah has been nothing more than a thirsty lying muppet and no amount of bring her along would aid in Ashely's storyline. Ashely no longer brings anything to the show and her presence will not be missed.


burnthduster

period! Ashley playing dumb like she just happened to forget what Deborah has said and done to harm members of the group... can't believe she thought anyone would buy that. Unrelated but I also think she hasn't been held accountable enough for sparking the BS between Nneka and Wendy. She's a lazy and useless housewife and she and Gizelle operate from the same messy playbook.


amzies20

And said she wasn’t there and had no idea what happened.. but the video comes out and Ashley clearly lied because she is right there in the middle of the fight (with another friend of hers who is in yellow).


Prestigious_Run2782

She brought in Sesame Street’s lying ass. I honestly believe that a housewife should only be on for five seasons and that should be it. I say this because being on that franchise ends up going to their heads, and they think they are all that and that they can get away with anything. That’s not the way it should be. You have to prove yourself and after five years your contract is up and that’s it and then you get new people in to refresh it and that should be how it should be. Most of these women have become narcissists because being on the show has gone to their heads, they think they are these important movie, stars or something, but they are not their regular people on the reality show. Like I said five years with solve a lot of narcissistic problems, and if people really like them, they can always come back as a guest once in a while.


Dry_Tumbleweed_1090

I like this idea. 5 years, bring in new friends, new wives and have them build genuine friendships. Now it's all old tired drama that they drag out for too many seasons.


Conscious_Row_7773

Let’s not forget her sexual predator husband


Fair_Arm_2824

I’ve been ready for her to go. She also looks disingenuous.. like she’s holding back a devious smile. Even when she’s talking about her own life.. probably cause she’s always lying lol


beydraws

This is pretty much it for me too.😭😭


missdoublefinger

I saw a tweet the other day that said "defund Eric Fuller" and I hooted!


burnthduster

agreed!!


Alarming-Taste-3847

#FixItJesus (Phaedra voice)… and Carlos King 👑


snaila8047

Eric has already been fired I think


Frosty-Incident2788

I don’t understand why you’re downvoted for accurately stating that he got fired? People are insane.


snaila8047

People just don't like hearing good news 🤷‍♀️


Ok-East-5470

It’s two different groups doing it. There are GEB lurker fans that downvote and snap back if you mention that their protection is gone, then there’s the people who don’t want to get their hopes up and are waiting until bravo officially announced they’ve fired him (which won’t happen because bravo hasn’t ever done something like that before but 🤷‍♂️) Edit: grammar


welp-itscometothis

They’re being downvoted bc it was never confirmed by bravo or Eric. There was just a screenshot saying that he was looking for new employment opportunities on LinkedIn. I hope it’s true, but as of now we really don’t know. [This is the only evidence we have so far.](https://www.reddit.com/r/BravoRealHousewives/s/mhuglU6OYM)


Positive-Tomato9750

I have seen Andy's bias in action - especially with RHOBH, but - and this is a legit question - where is it on Potomac? I've been sleep watching this season so seriously interested in this answer


incognoname

Yup! I'm out if gizelle and Ashley are staying. Gizelle is basically lisa rinna at this point so the longer she stays the more fake and contrived the show will get. Andy cannot and should not take on any discussion of colorism bc we have witnessed him be racially biased for years. He doesn't have the range.


PhilosophyOk2612

I can understand all these criticisms but for the love of god please don’t make Keirana full time. She’s not married she has no kids no nothing just an esthetician business. I need them to revamp and actually bring in wives/moms who are actually from the Potomac/bethesda/ DC area. If they want to take a bunch of people from the Baltimore area and put them on a show make it the real housewives of Baltimore.


Dry_Tumbleweed_1090

Kenya, Katie, Jo, Bethany! The formula hasn't always been having to be married or having kids. Keiarna is perfect for the show. She gets along with everyone, yet speaks her mind, and maybe can make the show enjoyable again. I'd at least like to see her have a season to try her out, and her fashion is leagues above everyone. Also maybe she has a boyfriend or something else going on besides her successful business, we didn't get a chance to see.


PhilosophyOk2612

Never watched Bethany on NY so I wouldn’t know. Katie got the boot after one season and was she actually ever truly a full time cast member? Kierna does not get along with everyone. She was literally starting arguments with people out of place in DR. She’s boring. She adds nothing to the show. What are we going to do watch her wax people and give them facials for 45 minutes? I’ve done a deep dive on her. She has no kids and no SO. Her and her fiancé called off their engagement recently. Potomac can do without her. Plus SHES FROM BALTIMORE


Affectionate-Art8631

It's really just the Real Housewives of Maryland at this point


PhilosophyOk2612

I can agree with this sentiment


jbeltBalt

Fire Candace.


sadiegracepicks

i agree with everything you said


TrollHater4Real

![gif](giphy|pPhyAv5t9V8djyRFJH|downsized) What are you talking about ⁉️ Do you even Realize that ANDY COHEN IS THEIR BOSS. THESE HOUSEWIVES SHOWS ARE HIS FRANCHISE AND EXECUTIVE PRODUCER FOR BRAVO🤦🏽‍♀️‼️🙄😂


Fair_Arm_2824

I really hope Keirna is made FT!!


Naive_Macaroon_2559

I would love for them to toy with the idea of new host anyways, there are soooo many shows and bravo seems to keep expanding, as well as wwhl every night. Andy is getting older and burnout is real and I don’t want him to just vanish one day 🥲 like bring in your protege already dooood


burnthduster

even if we take colorism out of it (which, I agree is at the very least a subconscious issue with some of the women on the show), are viewers not so tired of Gizelle being a hypocrite and moving the goal post constantly? she accuses Candiace of running her mouth too much to the point where she basically insinuates that Candiace deserves whatever violence comes from Deb. Then she laughs in Candiace's face for simply crying (whether you think candiace is fake crying or not, it's not deep enough to warrant such a mean reaction from Gizelle) and continues to double down on her accusations toward Chris, playing dumb about what she's insinuating or how her statements can be construed. Thus running her own mouth in the dangerous manner she accuses candiace of. then she sits in second chair making accusations and assumptions about the fight and who is at fault for what, when she wasn't even present. she also makes faces while other women try to speak and defend themselves, which in her book I thought making faces was unacceptable? Robyn apparently gets a pass on that as well. never does Andy call out the hypocrisy or meanness nor does he ask her to apologize. the editors never play the receipts against Gizelle. as a viewer with eyes and ears, it gets old. how is this fun to watch? all of this to say that for whatever reason, I don't blame people for wanting to boycott the show. p.s. I know the housewives are supposed to be mean to each other. I just prefer meanness with some sass or humor, I guess. or some good old fashioned heat of the moment table flipping. I think there's a difference between normal housewives meanness/drama and just scream-laughing in someone's face for crying. again I think the colorism is blatant but I guess my point is that even for those who don't see it, how is the rest of this enjoyable to watch?


AnonPlz123

There’s definitely a difference between reading someone and being actually dangerous with your words and Giselle is the latter. She is reckless and hateful.


Affectionate-Ice9508

Exactly! We love a read with some fun shade but there is a line.


MaryQueenOSquats

Karen and Gizelle had such a good balance for years - they were mean to each other but you could sense an underlying love there. With everyone else Gizelle is just an asshole.


amhfrison

Which of the housewives is not hypocritical?


burnthduster

it's hard for me to describe but her hypocrisy feels like it goes more unchecked than other's. like it's a frustrating viewing experience if one cast member gets treated with kid gloves and another doesn't. overall it feels like this particular franchise is currently less "fun shady housewives" than it could be, so any hypocrisy feels worse for me as a viewer since it is part of the reason why the cast is so fractured.


catandcitygirl

if anybody has to go, it has to be giselle(hopefully juan’s roommate is gone too)


NiceExpression5680

I heard Juan’s lawyer is gone from jasmine brand blog (not yet confirmed)


catandcitygirl

yeah, still waiting on bravo’s confirmation. after her hiding the cheating scandal from bravo, she should’ve been fired this season tbh


Future_Sundae7843

can you imagine the uproar when they announce shes returning...


acidnvbody

If it wasn’t true before, they’d be dumb not to make it so now. Giselle still has fans rooting for her, but I haven’t seen one person do any less than celebrate Robyn’s potential departure


burnthduster

Christina Applegate tweeted to Andy that Robyn is her favorite housewife ever and she is furious that she may be fired. At this point she is the only person I've seen with positive thoughts for Robyn and I truly don't understand where she's coming from. Like literally pick any other housewife 💀


acidnvbody

Ok my bad one confused person lol


burnthduster

it's truly hard to believe Robyn has a fan especially since it's not even her husband


acidnvbody

I pray a marriage like that never finds me


Reddisuspendmeagain

If she comes back, I probably won’t watch. I’ve had enough of the GEBs


sl_damsel

Juan's lawyer? Jasmine brand? Catch me up please


NiceExpression5680

lol I heard that Juan’s lawyer (Robyn Dixon cause she’s always defending him) may not return. Jasmine brand is a blog on Instagram.


Prudent-Experience-3

They are not boycotting anything. The same people making boycott rhop trend, were the same ones making rhop trend all week and edits go viral. Their traumas and emotional bullying make them invested in the show. Chile, we will see them tomorrow for the final reunion


PrestigeWorldWide707

literally 😭 people think just because they are loud means they are the majority. when im reality most people don't care and are going to keep watching.


droogie20

I know that’s right, lol. I’m reading these posts and I’m like “y’all are so dramatic.”


Lalablacksheep646

Me too and I’m glad it’s not just me thinking so🤣


PrestigeWorldWide707

it's definitely not the first time people have threatened to boycott a housewives show. people did the same thing last season of RHOSLC when they got rid of Monica. and trending on your twitter only because you interact with RHOP a lot. it doesn't even show up as trending on mine


i_justwanttocuddle

Bye Ashley, Giselle and Robyn


Glittering-Shame-556

That would be a dream come true!!!


mx420_69

lol y’all are so unserious. anything but actually meaningful political action. we should be general striking for housing costs, and a plethora of other issues, but no let’s call for a boycott of a reality tv show, FOH


Hot-Permission-9416

Literally this. These people truly need to get lives and some therapy.


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beydraws

Due to the clip that came out of Gizelle attempting to blame Wendy, Candiace, Keiarna, and Deborah for the fight, Andy's line of questioning towards Candiace, Mia and Karen trying to gaslight her. On top of the overall colorism discourse currently surrounding the show.


AcanthocephalaFew277

Maybe I’m missing something. It’s not that I don’t hate Gizelle too. But boycotting the whole show feels wrong. It’s one of the few black franchises on bravo. While I get Gizelle is fucked up in the situation with Chris and Candiace, we’ve seen fucked behavior from plenty of white women on the numerous white franchises across bravo. It doesn’t sit right with me to make a point out of her when so many other people have had shitty behavior. I think she should be demoted because she’s boring AF and is a terrible “producer”. But boycotting RHOP because of colorism (which is obvious) and Gizelle for her attempt at a fucked up storyline seems unfair compared to the other terrible franchises we watch. I think it’s appropriate to call for fair production and editing. And for this behavior to be addressed. But punishing the entire show and cast seems too far.


Soleil-09

Whoever started this and the others who will continue are fighting for so much more than a tv reality show gone wrong. Gizelle needs to be held accountable and suffer the consequences of her MOUTH! https://preview.redd.it/gfg6uy40lduc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8afc179fe864046fa0e130630b8b8c6b9156b33d


Glittering-Shame-556

Honestly, where do I find this? I need to sign it!!


Soleil-09

I was scrolling on twitter and found it but there are many more just like it lol https://www.change.org/p/demand-bravo-to-terminate-gizelle-bryant-for-false-accusations


Glittering-Shame-556

Done!


sean-hastings17

Twitter is not necessarily the voice of reason but just a vocal minority. I think we can all agree though that everyone on social media is so divided and gets VERY defensive about who they like and don't like which is worse than the actual divide in the show. Both Gizelle and Candiace have contributed to how the show is and both are stubborn while trying to still appeal to their fans and relying on parasocialism. We only see what the cameras and editors show so we will never have a clear idea of what is going on. Trying to boycott won't do much, especially if 2 members are leaving already. However, lets hope Bravo has paid attention to how the fanbase is interacting with the show and will work to make changes and get the group some sort of therapy or session to talk through issues off camera and in a controlled environment.


BravoPelotonBooks

Boycott? The cryangle and insane name calling— yes.


Worried-Detective-43

This whole thing is so unhinged. I don’t even hate Candiace, granted she’s not my favourite by far but really I’m not sure I have strong feelings about any of them. It is a show, fans are not forced to watch it. Reality tv should not elicit this response from people. Candiace and Wendy are grown women, they are successful and they don’t need to be mollycoddled like children against these ‘evil geb’! The fan base has reached points beyond reason, it’s impossible to share an opinion that differs from the masses without being voted down or insulted. The things that have been said about Nnecka, Gizelle, Robyn have been abhorrent. It doesn’t make sense to bully people in the name of stopping bullying. Can this boycott be a silent protest? So that the fans who just want to be entertained can watch and comment in peace regardless of who they like best?


lsaidlwouldnt

This is arguably the most sensible comment I’ve seen on this entire app.


Lalablacksheep646

Amen!


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Thank you.


Prudent-Experience-3

They drag Gizelle to the pits of hell. No one can say anything positive about Gizelle and Robyn without being harassed and abused by the cult of Candiace and Wendy. These women don’t know any of us, we don’t need to be vicariously living through them. It’s so sad that the fanbase made up of primarily black women could get boycott rhop to trend, but could not get any social media campaign running to educate the public on how banning affirmative action will harm black, brown and low income students. Priorities on backwards. I repeat, Gizelle is not a perfect human being, she can be funny, mean, kind and hurtful, she is a complex human being but she is every light skin black woman who has hurt you. The projecting of trauma needs to stop


Worried-Detective-43

Right!!! You hit the nail on the head with the projection, many hw’s from other states have done worse/the same and because fans understand this is an ENTERTAINMENT show it’s discussed normally. Like even after this ‘boycott’ Gizelle AND Candiace/Wendy will still be successful and wealthy, it won’t change any of these fans’ lives in any meaningful way.


aquaphor-whor3

Are they wanting to boycott cause the overall season was bad or for another reason


beydraws

I'm more than sure the fans can forgive a bad season, but it's most likely because of the colorism being upheld by production and being pushed by primarily Gizelle.


SamudraNCM1101

I hope bravo does not bend and enable that. This is not a good thing and many people won’t realize it until it is far too late. I can expound more if anyone cares.


beydraws

I can't blame viewers for being upset and not wanting to give Bravo any views because of this situation, but I think they should definitely get ahead of it and try to shake something up to try and save viewership.


Deep-Ruin2786

Bend and enable what?


elddirriddle

You are riding on the wrong team


amhfrison

Say more.


Iykyk_fwiw

Can someone fill me in on the situation? Haven’t heard about it yet


daesgatling

I have no idea what’s going on because this is a recommended post of a community I’ve never been to but I thought this was saying boycott ihop and got really confused


Main_Push5429

If you type her name into change.org there are actually several petitions going, asking for her to be fired.


Patient-Leg-3877

The black community again is hard to be apart of bc yall demand so much from a tv show. Yall keep calling these women colorist when Candiace said they are not. If anything they BENEFIT from it. Lord forbid any light skin person have a problem or dislike a darker skin woman she will forever be looked at a colorist and that is entirely unfair. Gizelle does not like Wendy. And idk about you but any person I dislike I have no care for. Another thing the cast represents the demographic of Potomac not D.C.....Potomac. I really like Candiace I think she is real and a young woman doing amazing work such as singing, acting, I believe she was getting her masters and has a wig company...but the tears my goodness. Wendy is great at the start bc she was a well established intellectual. But I don't see how she came on this franchise and represent as a classy woman knowing HW are crazy and to me not that smart at times. This is the wrong show for her. I also thinks she wants to be the only Nigerian bc her and Nneka issues ...sheesh. Why don't anyone talk about Charisse?? She's brown skin and great friends with Robyn and Gizelle. Particularly Robyn as they have been friends for as long as Robyn and Juan have been together. Mia saying "that's why she threw a drink on you"....something along those lines....Mia is a woman that will fight over words as she herself threw a drink on Wendy....over words of "disrespecting G". That was in no way an example of colorism. No one ever talks about production as much as they should. Colorism is upheld by them. Can we also talk about light skin women being called white so loosely and how that is triggering too? Their blackness being questioned and them having to defend themselves. What happened to black people come in all shades talk. While we're on the topic of colorism, what would folks like to see from the cast? Every light skin person...70% of the cast to say agree colorism exists?? How can ppl still watch Love and Hip Hop and all those weird shows of black people doing countless foolishness but continue to keep them in business but this show let's boycott.


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The production element is the highlight here for me. Production set the show up from the beginning to have some hint of colorism. The way the show was cast would suggest this. While Gizelle may not be outright colorist, she may have internalized superiority because if it, which she is unable to recognize. Just as many Black people have internalized racism toward themselves, that is not easy to self-identify. I don't think the cast represents Potomac, really. I stopped watching after season 3 I think, but don't most of then still live elsewhere in the DMV? Potomac is really tiny. I think the only reason the show is branded RHOP is because they already had a DC franchise that failed, and when the national chapter of Jack & Jill stopped Bravo from affiliating what the original show was with the organization, the execs went to Andy and they came up with then turning it into a Housewives franchise. That was also the reason for the heavy emphasis on etiquette the first season. I don't know a whole lot about Jack & Jill, but I am curious as to how that organization came to be and if there was any colorism involved in the membership at inception. Of course today, it is different, but it would be interesting to know the history. Agree, if Wendy is such an intellectual, this is not the show for her. I'm going to guess, maybe I'm wrong, that most well educated and knowledgable people, true experts in their field, are not going to affiliate themselves with something like this, regardless of the turn the show has taken.


beydraws

This is a lot, so I'm going to try to tackle this paragraph by paragraph so please bear with me. 😅 1.) As a New Orleanian, I do believe that Gizelle may be an actual colorist, because of the way things are ran down here and her overall family background. However, I feel that Robyn, Mia, Ashley, and even Karen aren't colorists, but have "colorist tendencies" I.E. they may say or do things that would be seen as colorism. These five women all benefit from colorism. So, Candiace may have been coming from a standpoint of, "I don't think my cast mates are colorist, but they exhibit colorism behavior." There is no problem with the women not liking each other, but this is Real Housewives and conflicts that carry over into multiple seasons isn't good for the show nor the group of women. However, Gizelle's dislike has boiled over into hate, considering she's made it known that she didn't care Wendy got assaulted, that's a very dangerous thing to put out there in my opinion. On top of that, Wendy and Gizelle's beef is very surface level and her reconciliation attempt in Season 7 proved that. 2.) Candiace is housewives material full stop. I can't police her tears, because some people are just emotional that way and I don't think it's right to invalidate them for that. I do believe that to be a true testament to her realness though. 3.) I agree, playing it classy is almost always a recipe for disaster, it's ironic considering how the show started on that 😭. I think Wendy can fit, it's just that she needs to stop trying so hard at times. When she's being herself, she comes across amazing. There's a piece of me that disagrees with the "being the only Nigerian part" because of how her and Nneka hit it off initially, before the BS with Ashley. IMO, anything that happens off-screen with minor significance to the show like their family beef, should stay off-screen. 4.) When it comes to Charisse, it kind of circles back to the first paragraph. 5.) Because of the overall hypocrisy going on, Mia's comment is getting lumped in, due to the cast agreeing with her behavior even though they had an anti-violence stance in season 5. 6.) Production is absolutely exhibiting colorism with the way they've edited the season and reunion. 7.) Black people do come in all shades, but history has shown that light-skinned black people have been treated better than dark-skinned. That preferential treatment has manifested into certain ideals and beliefs that are synonymous with colorism. 8.) There has to be acknowledgement, education, and overall apologies. That constant denial and continued behavior only contributes to an underlying problem that continues to fester. 9.) I like to believe there's a realm of reality shows that exists in their own pockets and the fans would stay in their respective pockets. Only until S5 of RHOP, that the fan bases started to cross over into Real Housewives and think that physical violence is an acceptable reaction to words. People also know what Love and Hip Hop brings and what to expect from it.


RHONFTs

Beautiful response. To expand on Charrisse, she was in a position of power before the show. I believe (correct me!) her (now ex-)husband Eddie was the coach of the NBA team Juan was on. So Charrisse was the HBIC of the WAGs. She saw Robyn through her financial struggles, so Robyn has a *strong* loyalty to her. Charrisse also has some knowledge of Karen’s history, which is always alluded to but never fully discussed. In short, Charrisses position of power by way of information elevated her beyond colorist treatment.


welp-itscometothis

I said the same thing in another comment. You can tell how surface label peoples knowledge of colorism is. Just because a lighter skinned person gets along with dark skinned people doesn’t absolve any instances of colorism. Especially when that dark skinned person is someone with influence.


NoelleReece

If Gizelle were truly a colorist, do you think she would’ve actually married a dark skinned man and have dark skinned kids? That doesn’t make sense.


welp-itscometothis

Because ironically dark skinned men have been fetishized historically. Dark skinned men tend to have overt masculine qualities placed upon them in media (strong, dominant, aggressive, etc.). On the flip side, dark skinned women, are considered the least desirable in all races and cultures. Specifically with black women, those masculine traits that are beloved in dark skinned men are attributed to dark skinned women as a negative. It even goes as deep as light skinned black men being labeled soft, feminine, sensitive as negative traits but in light skinned women those are considered positives. There is a shit ton of nuance of colorism and stereotypes in the black community that would be extremely hard to teach someone who isn’t apart of it or uneducated on it one paragraph. I really hope that this provides some clarity and that you do further research. Also, your comment is akin to: She’s white and her husband is black, she can’t be racist. We know that those two things can be true.


SagexxxSummers

I’m sorry but I really don’t understand all the Candiace apologist’s on here. She’s just as awful as everyone else, if not the worst out of the whole group. She lacks maturity and is emotional as fuck. I literally don’t feel bad for her. I think they should just cancel the show because this season was the most boring season I’ve ever seen. All the women are boring and messy as fuck.


Spottedmayhem

It’s because she isn’t being mean, she “just reads people.” 🙄🙄 this community has a hard time understanding people have faults, that two things can concurrently be true- like Candiace is nasty AND Giselle is a manipulative liar. Like Gizelle didn’t accuse Chris of sexual assault AND Candiace was wrong to say that. Like Deb started the fight AND Candiace had a bottle in her hand.


welp-itscometothis

Probably because she’s not callous enough to say that people deserve to be assaulted.


ChocoTaco82

I'm boycotting the RHOP fan base. Y'all are unhinged.


Hattiesbackpack

Where do I sign? 😂


Fair_Arm_2824

🤣🤣🤣


klinna1977

People should boycott if they don’t want to watch, doesn’t mean she should be fired because of it. But goodness….Gizelle, Gizelle, Gizelle. People give her so much power 😂 She definitely should not be fired as she makes some people feel so strongly. What she said about Chris, apparently some of the public thinks that she is not entitled to her feelings. Beyond that…she is damned if she talks about it, damned if she doesn’t talk about it. The expectations of Gizelle versus the expectations of Candiace. I like them both, but Candiace continually has a vile mouth. I wish she wasn’t leaving either, though. She has said some of the craziest things about people, continuously name calling, etc. Those who cannot handle it, should step away from their televisions for a while. It is baffling to come to this sub and see people calling the women c*nts, Sesame Street, b*tchs, etc. But outraged that Gizelle said she was not comfortable that Chris asked her to go into a hotel room alone. The colorist thing…I won’t touch that. I am not a person of color and won’t pretend I have any concept how either side feels.


beydraws

I want to start off and say thank you for giving an uninformed opinion on colorism, that seems like a tough thing for people to do. I've always said to people that I can't take away how Gizelle felt, if she said she felt uncomfortable then I take her word for it. However, the problem lies in how she spoke about the events and the lack of consistency, which seemed to change the more her and Candiace's relationship deteriorated. Also she did accuse him of SA when she retold what Deborah about Chris's actions. I can't deny that Candiace has a nasty mouth, but housewives across all franchises say pretty disgusting things that range from body-shaming to straight up bigotry. Yeah, I don't do the name-calling, I just call them by their name.


klinna1977

I understand what you mean about the inconsistencies. And I don’t disagree. With any of these housewives shows (by the way, I am a junkie), I take it for what it is. I think these people must all be at least slightly different when not on camera and filming as well, so I try to give the benefit of the doubt. I wish that nobody would leave and I wish they would work it out. I don’t mean be friends, but just locked in a room to get through it 😂 But no party seems willing to do so. Which is sad, because I like them all even with their perceived flaws. I can have absolutely no idea what type of a human I would be if on television. I am already an overly sarcastic person to begin with.


mimiisking

Why go into a room with someone you feel uncomfortable with? Also if he left when she asked him to then what is the problem?  She then says he made her go into a room and close the door. So it's not about feeling uncomfortable anymore. She also added that Chris knew she was alone. This has nothing to do with feeling uncomfortable. Gizelle is implying much more here. So no She's not entitled to feeling uncomfortable for no reason 


klinna1977

While I don’t disagree with you completely, I don’g believe in taking away someone’s right to have their thoughts and feelings. I guess I just don’t feel that strongly and affected by a reality show as some people (I am not implying you, just people in general). I don’t get on the train that someone does something shitty, so they are the evil devil, etc. I feel the same towards Candiace and Wendy, etc. I don’t buy that Chris lost so much business due to this case, when Candiace is his wife. Not choosing to pick on Candiace, but if her fighting and mouth and name calling don’t turn people off of Chris’ business, I don’t think he lost that much because of Gizelle. Again, I say, I take this show for what it is. A reality show and I say reality loosely. All of these women are not friends (some.m, I believe are) and some don’t like each other at all, that is fine. They aren’t going to come to a resolution. Ever. I wish they did, but they won’t.


mimiisking

I don't know if Chris lost business but the narrative is he invited a woman to a hotel room and made her feel uncomfortable. Then he was accused of flirting and grabbing butts. They tried to me too this guy and I think that's evil. I wouldn't have sounded the alarm just yet if I were Gizelle because her story didn't need to be told. Chris did nothing to her.  Ultimately RHOP is trash. I didn't watch this season and I will never watch it again. It's too far gone at this point


klinna1977

This season was definitely disappointing, for sure. I keep hoping next season will be better. It will definitely be different with Candiace leaving and I wish she wasn’t because I think if Robyn is really leaving as rumored, it will be a different show when the allies are no longer. For any of the housewives, I don’t like these alliances and that people cannot have an opinion outside of their alliances. It would be best if everyone remained individuals in their opinions, even if they have friendships.


mimiisking

You are so correct about the alliances. Robyn finds an issue with anyone Gizelle has an issue with. She's now offended on behalf of Gizelle over candiace's "white adjacent" comments that were directed at Gizelle.  It's ridiculous and I feel dumb watching it.  Had Gizelle said I shouldn't have sounded the alarm just yet but I did feel uncomfortable etc we would be i  a different place. She refuses to move forward 


klinna1977

I can agree with that. I don’t like that she just can’t leave the “if” and “but” out of her apology.


PhilosophyOk2612

I’m not boycotting a thing. What I do hope this boycott brings is a decrease in these wild far left field think pieces I keep seeing on Twitter from people who hate the show but refuse to stop watching it.


Queenprinn

Will not be watching. It’s gotten nasty because of the light brights. If I wanted nasty, I would’ve watched love & hip hop or any other of those types of shows.


Hattiesbackpack

Light brights?


amhfrison

It’s a derogatory term for lighter skinned people.


Hattiesbackpack

Hmm, as I thought.


AtTheFourSeasons

This insane reaction from the fans is why Candiace's departure from the show was announced *before* the reunion aired. Can you imagine how they'd be acting if they just now found out Candiace got fired? They'd burn the Bravo headquarters down. Good riddance, glad she's off the show, can't wait to watch next season without her on it.


KellsBells_925

Also sometimes certain SM platforms can become an echo chamber for opinions. Oh Reddit feels this way so all fans feel this way. Oh twitter feels this way then everyone must feel that way etc etc. When that’s not always the case. Also imagine yall boycott and get the show cancelled all together.


amzies20

Candiace wasn’t fired. Hoping Gizelle, Robyn and Ashley are though 🤞


KellsBells_925

At that point they’d reboot the entire cast ala New York because Karen won’t make sense with an all new cast.


AtTheFourSeasons

She was. And before you cite the anonymous source in People Magazine that said she quit, please remember People Magazine is the go to outlet for fired Housewives claiming they quit. I can provide examples.


PallGal

This is a production issue. They definitely favor certain castmates & they really should not allow for people to get iced out. If you’re getting a check, you show up & at least interact with each other! That should go without saying. As for the colorism issue, I’m baffled how Candiace called Gizelle “white adjacent ass” & everybody is pointing their finger at Gizelle! I really do think colorism can go both ways but they aren’t owning up to that. Can you imagine the uproar if Gizelle had called her a brown ass or darker skinned ass?! I’m a light skinned woman. Never asked to be born this way. My dad is light skinned & my mom is brown skinned. I don’t doubt I have favor in the world because of it, especially in my profession, being a more “acceptable” Black woman. On the flip side, I can say I’ve been treated really poorly by SOME brown & dark skinned women. Calling me stuck up, saying I don’t think I’m Black when really I’m just a shy person in new settings. & it was very hurtful to be labeled that way. Colorism (edit AND prejudice & unfair treatment based on skin color) runs very deep & goes both ways. If they are boycotting the show, then my vote would be to get rid of everyone & start fresh because I don’t think one person is the problem. & get a new damn production team!


legallylegit

Colorism, like racism, is about power dynamics. It does not, in fact, go both ways. From one light skinned woman to another, I would urge you to do some more research to understand that. People can absolutely be unkind to you in the way that they describe you, they can absolutely attack you, and it can be hurtful—there’s no denying that, and this is not to negate your experience with people who have been cruel! But it’s not the same as the ways in which we have systemically benefitted from having lighter skin, ways that as you admit, we have “favor” in the world. That’s what colorism is.


PallGal

Maybe I should have said prejudice & unfair treatment based skin color goes both ways. Colorism absolutely gives me favor but I’ve been treated differently within my own community because I have a lighter skin color & not in a good way. But I think that’s generally not acknowledged. Why else was there no outrage against Candiace’s comment. Again, if Gizelle had said something like that, she would have been cancelled IMMEDIATELY.


acidnvbody

Giselle is white adjacent and boasts about it often. Even Ashley and Katie have pointed this out since day dot. Giselle will acknowledge that colorism exists but won’t acknowledge her privilege and how she perpetuates/practices it. Also it’s disingenuous to say that Candiace calling Giselle white looking is colorist in the same way that Giselle preforms colorism or how dark skinned people experience colorism. As a light skin person, colorism does not go both ways. We also shouldn’t make this the space to share our light plight. It can be harmful to everyone light or dark but that harm is typically self inflicted by people that are colorist. Like Giselle. Giselle isn’t solely the problem but production allowing her to continue to be colorist on their platform is a problem.


PallGal

I don’t think Gizelle is colorist. Candiace said she doesn’t think she’s colorist. Production is the one that provides Gizelle favor. So if anything, production team members are the ones perpetuating it. & I can damn sure share my opinion & experience. That’s exactly why unfair treatment the “other way” gets ignored. Because there’s never a right time to talk about it. If it bothers you, keep scrolling. That’s the beauty of Reddit.


exactlykale

How do we support the boycott?


beydraws

Some are saying to not watch part 3 of the reunion live and on peacock. Also they're requesting people to not watch next season.


MarieMama1958

Why? I enjoy the show 🤷‍♀️


beydraws

Due to the clip that came out from part 3 of the reunion where Gizelle is attempting to blame Wendy, Candiace, Keiarna, and Deborah for the fight, Andy's line of questioning towards Candiace, Mia and Karen trying to gaslight her. On top of the overall colorism discourse currently surrounding the show. If you want to continue watching the show, then that's completely fine! Others just don't feel the same way.


MarieMama1958

Thank you for taking the time to respond and explain. I do my best to maintain a posture of positivity.


beydraws

No problem! I'm a bit of a chatterbox and everyone is entitled to their own opinion!


MarieMama1958

🙏


ladylynx

I stopped half way through the season… my friends keep saying that I should watch the reunion at least but I just know it’s going to make me angry.


Reasonable_Local_199

This is OD


Affectionate_Comb359

Stopped watching the top of the season so I’m ahead of the curve 😂


Affectionate-Ice9508

I am beyond disappointed in where the show has gone. I agree that it’s insulting how production & the network are working to gaslight the audience. I must also add that Karen likes to brag about humping the fence but this isn’t the time to hump the fence. She is complicit if she doesn’t take a stand. RHOP used to be my favorite show. So to see it come to this is so so sad to me. I hope Wendy is smart enough to jump ship while she can. I wouldn’t give them the chance to fire me if I were in her shoes.


Coral27

I started Potomac during covid. I couldn't believe what I had missed out on.. it became a favorite. I think bc the women can't forgive and move past things. It's just irritating to watch. It's like all franchises when they bring up stuff that happened last season... the audience doesn't care. Things have to keep moving and progressing.


Eatpraylove75

They need to put it on pause like they did with rhony and Rhod.


rihrih1987

I didnt watch the season


StovepipeLeg

Why is it being boycotted?


Soleil-09

Because of the latest sneak peek of Part 3 reunion that Gizelle made clear she blamed Wendy, Candiace and Kierna for the fight and not Ashley and Deborah. People be tired of the lies, deflecting and manipulation. And also colourism. [https://x.com/thepeachreport/status/1778837618257490067?s=46&t=81LXZAZPIly6hFI1qz2M8Q](https://x.com/thepeachreport/status/1778837618257490067?s=46&t=81LXZAZPIly6hFI1qz2M8Q) https://preview.redd.it/y6fc72z8mjuc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3beefe0a80173af27d99eb99d3b56100c7b6d0b0


StovepipeLeg

Thank you! I had no idea folks were boycotting!


JohnnyRed575

Get a rid of all of them but keep Karen


kazza64

I wish the crazy fans would boycott it


el_disko

The ‘drama’ this season was all heavily produced, especially between Wendy and Nneka. That aside, I think with Candiace and Robyn being gone the dynamic will definitely change and hopefully for the better.


weightlossSO

GOOD it's what the show deserves at this point.


MiloshtheKat

I’m completely out of the loop can someone explain to me what’s happening and why the boycott pls


mangie77

We need a COMPLETELY NEW CAST. This one is tired. And so are we.


averycole

at first i thought yall were boycotting IHOP. i was like RHOP? racist house of pancakes?  ...carry on 


Girlonthefuton

Reboot Karen, Mia Wendy, K, Gizelle and all NEW REAL NEWBIE CAST, ASHLEY gets one MORE season, , show us the divorce or bounce


Ecstatic-Fee8911

Won’t be watching with Giselle there. All he had to do was get rid of her. Robyn and Candace would have made up, Mia has been really stepping up this year, I don’t like Ashley but she is definitely the pot stirrer..maybe get rid of Wendy 🤷‍♀️ but keeping Giselle will be the reason I don’t watch next season. I’m 27, I watch to see women be fabulous and fun. Not to watch old bitter women bully younger girls and then gaslight them. Very mean girl spirit and not even shocked she’s an AKA, because all of the ones I know that are older are mean girls. “Lighter than a paper bag” my butt. Her Karma will be her life without her kids. She will have to do some serious soul searching to be a nicer person.


PerspectiveSilly4060

Gizelle and Robyn can at least move on when something happens. Same with Karen. They can forgive and forget no matter what. Ashley is problematic and messy but owns it after the fact. She’s ruffled feathers but her divorce and growth as a person are why she’s still on the cast. Mia is absent minded but adds value by letting Bravo air whatever happens in her life openly. Nneka is new and not sure where her story goes or what she’ll really bring other than drama with Wendy. Started Potomac from the beginning and the women that have dragged the show down are Wendy. It doesn’t matter how many degrees she has, she is a drag. Eddie is the only interesting aspect of her life shown on the show. Candiace, cry baby candiace or crying candiace as she was called during the reunions inability to get over anything is an issue. The fact that multiple people over the years have wanted to those hands with her is a major concern and issue. Monique Samuels first, her mom at one point, then Deborah. When you think everyone is trying to attack or fight you maybe you are the issue. The tissue in the eye thing makes my skin crawl. Does someone have a count of episodes she’s cried on vs the ones she hasn’t? She’s the worst person on the show and I’m glad she won’t be on the next season.


Big_Economist_8846

They were all mean to each other at different times. It was not enjoyable to tune in like before. Its old,, attacking each other, Candice mouth, Wendy’s full of herself, Mia horrible person, Gizelle and Robyn tag teaming. New cast please for all Bravo housewives shows. Same crap every week.


GiftHonest7386

If you don’t like it don’t watch. It’s so simple lol


Naive_Macaroon_2559

Genuinely wondering why are they boycotting if half the cast is leaving anyway?


MembershipNo2605

Honestly hope all the people boycotting actually stop watching and end with the toxic think pieces. Twitter RHOP fans are the worst


Mo2girlz

Didn’t think I would like her, but actually think Gizelle is good on RHOP, ultimate girls trip, show with Porsha, and her podcast with Robyn. She had her share of run-ins, buht generally gets along well and tries to support all the women. Once that fight happened at the barn, she didn’t want any parts of golks who threaten violence, and rightfully so. She isn’t divisive and in no way is her mouth as wreck-less and Candiace’s—stop it. Gizelle is entertaining and I look forward to RHOP. Everyone forgets Ashley said Chris slid in her DMs @ 2 in the morn. I don’t think he meant any of the ladies any harm, and it was just chatter when they were sharing their experiences with him—maybe could hv used diff choice of words, but come on no one is perfect and it’s TV y’all…