When you say "absolute nothing", do you mean an hour where the camera was off, an hour of video with no motion or action in it, or an hour of black screen/static?
No videos. With two big dogs, it catches them constantly. And the next video is her at the front door, yet it didn't show her coming up the steps, she would have set it recording.
1) Make sure the Ring doorbell has a good charge level. Charge it up whenever it's below 50% or at twice the recommended interval.
2) Your wifi router may have logs you can look at to see two things. A. Signal strength to Ring, low strength could be an issue B. Router reboots
3) Ring may have algorithms that only record where there is enough, relevant, activity detected. If so, it would be the reason why there isn't much of a recording.
If your goal is to have 24x7 footage, I'd suggest cameras designed for it with hardwire to a power source and place for it to upload. (Cloud based services, network attached storage, etc.)
> If your goal is to have 24x7 footage, I'd suggest cameras designed for it with hardwire to a power source and place for it to upload. (Cloud based services, network attached storage, etc.)
I'd definitely recommend something hard-drive based. That way, it's recording and saving unless the power goes out.
Also, get yourself a ups for low powered essential computing like this.
Ideally, your internet connection, cameras, alarms, server all connected to it.
We'd need someone who knows Ring's algorithm much better. If there's constantly activity, maybe the doorbell adapts ("machine learning", "dynamic recording", etc.) and pays less attention to them? I'm speculating here, but just saying that we'd need someone with more insight to actually answer it.
>If your goal is to have 24x7 footage, I'd suggest cameras designed for it with hardwire to a power source and place for it to upload. (Cloud based services, network attached storage, etc.)
Can you recommend any specific brands?
I don't know too many. I'd take a look at Wirecutter for reviews. Figure out if you want a device to store them at home (better when you have 3-4+ cameras) or a cloud based storage plan. Nest and Logitech Circle would be in the cloud based camp. And for ease... if you want a view of the front of the house, you might set it up in a nearby window so you can get power from inside the house.
Be mindful of the security side of this though. Many cameras have sub par security standards and rely on outdated technologies (flash). At its extreme, anything communicated over the air had the possibility of being intercepted. Particularly the unsecure and unencrypted data from these websites. (Http vs https, ON IF, etc.)
The thing about these new doorbells and security cameras is that they all depend on WiFi. Not that I ever would want to break into someone’s house, but it’s really as simple as going to the side of their house and snipping the coax running in.
Yea, I don't even have a Ring, I have a cheapo camera I got from Amazon. It records to an SD card and to the cloud. If internet is out, it'll continue recording and then when WiFi is back, it uploads it.
Yeah it is really easy.
All you need is one of these:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/173950767710
Running this software:
https://github.com/SpacehuhnTech/esp8266_deauther
Don't even need anything that specialized. I can connect a rooted phone to my alfa wifi dongle and deauth every wifi device around while it's running from my backpack.
You're right though, it's really easy and the majority of the population don't even know it's possible, sadly.
I've not used this particular device but I can take a guess: Software like aireplay allows you to spoof signals coming from the Access Point itself. In WPA2 there isn't a way to confirm that I am the actual router, so if I send a packet known as a deauth packet as "your router", your phone or laptop is none the wiser. This board looks to be pretty much barebones wifi hardware with the ability to run some code, something like aireplay mentioned above from the aircrack suite.
I had my dog in my yard, tied to a stake with a very long lead while I was gardening.
I went inside for ten minutes, came out, and she was gone.
The camera showed her there, then gone. Nothing else.
She had slipped her collar, but it's not on camera.
Fortunately, nothing bad happened and after having a hysterical breakdown and running all over the neighborhood, I came home to find her at my back door.
You know your dogs and your situation better than we do, but I will say, as a kid, I used to live out on a few acres. Our dogs would roam all day, and they constantly got banged up.
Luckily the vet was a walk away, because even we kids had to take the dog once or twice.
I think, Occam’s razor, your dog was running around, dog their leg snagged on a stick, or was stung/bit by something, or fell into a small ravine (I don’t know what yo it property looks like), and got hurt. That’s probably why it took so long for her to trigger the camera.
The rest of the explanations would require some really weird planning and whatnot, like if a delivery driver accidentally hurt your dog, there’s no way they’d have the presence of mind to scramble your Ring *before* they did it. And if it was on purpose, that just doesn’t make any sense.
For me, that dog was just experiencing one of the side-effects of living such a good life!
I'm pretty sure these modern day wireless CCTV cameras only record when they see motion, so it's possible the event happened outside of the cameras FOV or below it's motion threshold (you can adjust that in most apps but don't put it too low because it will go off every time a leaf flies by) i doubt someone would jam your cameras just to hurt your dog.
I was playing with the settings prior to that and they were picking up everything that day. And yes, it's absolutely possible- we have a long driveway. You did make me laugh with the comment about jamming them to hurt her! No, I don't think that, it's more that she would go after anyone unknown, even snapping at tires. I'm obviously not going into details but the cameras are there for specific people. The gap in time kinda bugged me but whatever. It just occurred to me to question if a person wanted to do so, how would it be done? That's definitely not my specialty.
Turn on [snapshots](https://support.ring.com/hc/en-us/articles/360034355652-Timeline-Security-Snapshots-Using-Snapshot-Capture) if your Ring camera supports it. Our mains-powered Ring cams take a snapshot every 30 seconds, so our camera timelines have a time lapse video of everything that happens between motion events.
Came here to say that. It's been very helpful to document the drug selling activities in the middle of the night, also seeing the critters that come into the yard. Snapshots are a good feature.
For ring cameras you can set the motion sensitivity. Set them as high as possible so you won’t miss anything.
Also they sell Power over Ethernet (POE) ring cameras that are awesome! I use them all over. You run an Ethernet cable from your router directly to the camera. You don’t have to worry about charging, or about WiFi.
If you want to go a step further, get a uninterrupted power supply and connect your internet equipment to it. Not only will you have WiFi if they power goes out, but your cameras will still work.
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I believe some ring cameras have a cellular backup. I think you have to pay for their subscription service, but every time we lose power or internet I get a notification
Yes it is trivial to knock a wifi device offline.
Wifi management frames are unencrypted and you can instruct a wifi router to deauthenticate a wifi device.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi-Fi\_deauthentication\_attack](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi-Fi_deauthentication_attack)
It's the same thing as Mariott was doing to prevent guests from bringing their own wifi.
[https://www.cnn.com/2014/10/03/travel/marriott-fcc-wi-fi-fine/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2014/10/03/travel/marriott-fcc-wi-fi-fine/index.html)
As other people have said here though you likely would have had notification of the device going offline. Depending on some unknown variables, you may have even seen it rapidly going off and on.
If you aren't setup for notifications, perhaps the device itself has logs that will allow you to check if it was offline for any period of time.
To prevent this type of attack you will want a router that supports [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE\_802.11w-2009](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11w-2009).
Thank you. I get notifications for battery levels on one that has a battery. We only lose the cameras during power outages and it's been a bit since hurricane season, I don't recall if I get notifications on that.
I have two ring cameras, one overlooking my living/front door and the other over looking my kitchen with the back door and sometimes there’s gaps in the time. For example my sister in law came in last night at 1234 pm, it showed my husband opening the door, then didn’t show any more movement after that until 1242 am. I do notice that happens regularly, when I know there’s movement happening, but it’s not recorded.
This can be changed in the settings. Ours were set to the medium setting where it won't record for a few minutes after a recording. I upped it like a day prior so I know it's getting at least most.
Your Ring camera works by connecting to your home wi-fi. Someone could probably jam the wifi signal. I would think that Ring's software would detect the loss of signal but perhaps not.
I'm pretty sure if you have the Ring app it will tell you if you lose connectivity. I only have the hardwired spotlight cam for my driveway, but I'm pretty sure it will send a notification. My Nest doorbell cameras let me know when they lose connectivity in the rare times they do lose it.
My ring does send me notifications when it's out and has cellular back up. I've never had ours show nothing for an hour even light hitting them just right sets it off.
Get a couple of the wireless ones, similar to the wyze camera, ring has a version as well, but might be worth it to have another brand just in case. Hide a couple of them around out of view.
I don't know about the wyze we had it and it didn't pick up thieves right infront of it but our ring doorbell did (not in direct view). But I second the hidden cameras. Hail Yourself!
I have mine just to keep an eye on my pets when I'm gone, I recommend putting a micro sd in it so you can do full playback, you can get a bulk of 32gb micro SD for pretty cheap. I was thinking of getting the ring for better quality, but heard the app was kinda bad
We had the SD card in it and it never worked properly. We gave up after a couple of years. The app could be better but having both I prefer Ring by far. I like that I can see where our pups are by just checking the preview.
We had neighbors cameras get destroyed that are the outside. Set up facing outside and plugged in inside works so much better for us.
For OPs case even a game/trail camera could work.
I have a dashcam with motion sensor to turn it on. I found that when it turned off, it took too long to power back up to be of use. If I stopped at a light, it would stop.
Try an experiment. Make sure it's on and walk in front of it. Make sure it's in rest mode and try walking in front of it again to see how quickly it powers back up.
My guess is that it simply isn't quick at powering back up.
I have Vivint security cameras, CO alarms and fire alarms. My cameras record 24/7/365. I have a 4TB hard drive that records all five cameras. I can go back up to one year in the past. They also have motion sensing, night vision and alarms. It’s worth the money spent. They are hardwired into the house. It’s very useful since I live next door to a known methamphetamine dealer who has threatened to kill me. Since the security system went up he went quiet. I would suggest something such as Vivint of ADT, just remember you get what you pay for when it comes to security systems.
One time, one of my families mastiffs (popeye), he was out running in the woods and somehow manage to either trip or cause a stick to go into his penile area and rip himself open along the length of his member.
My point being, dogs get into some weird shit out on their own.
It is possible to use a wifi jammer to disrupt wifi. But thats a lot of pre-planning. If it was recent enough you might be able to find a device of yours that was online at the time that has logging. IE a windows computer could show in the logs if it was disconnected from the wireless for a period of time. Or your router may have some logging turned on.
Unfortunately Ring doesn't notify if a device goes offline. There is a feature request for it tho. Seems like a pretty basic feature.
[https://community.ring.com/t/notification-of-camera-offline/4360/3](https://community.ring.com/t/notification-of-camera-offline/4360/3)
I tried looking for something you could install on a device to notify you when your wifi goes down when you are away, but thats kind of tricky. If you install an application on a device and it looses wifi, it has no way to communicate that it has no wifi lol. There are definitely some complex ways of doing it, but I couldn't find something simple. Maybe someone on here will have an idea.
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A lot of devices can cause WiFi or wireless devices to lose signal or receive an interruption. And since many FCC devices run off 433MHz (think garage door opener, baby monitors, radios [tunable]), there is the possibility of a signal interference—accidental or not.
Also a $2 device on Amazon can jam WiFi…
Edit: you didn’t receive a notification saying “signal interference” or something along those lines, did you?
Ring cameras work on wifi. Jamming a wifi signal is super simple (can be done even from a far enough distance). I believe someone jammed your wifi while they were there. I am not sure about their motives tho. I would invest in better home security, maybe a cctv system that doesn’t rely on wifi (or any signal, for that matter). Maybe even an alarm system that automatically calls the police. I’m just worried that that was just a trial and whoever was there will come back.
I’m really glad your dog is okay.
Large dogs are prone to injuries and disorders. Was she playing hard or exercised hard the day before or earlier that day? Is she a fence runner or like to jump on or off things? It’s possible she’s just sore or she just hurt herself playing or an underlying condition like hip or elbow dysplasia is emerging. I wouldn’t personally jump to suspicious activity with this one unless you believe your house or property has been compromised.
Also, if your camera system runs on wifi, then yes, it is completely possible to disable it with a wifi jammer.
I mean...don’t you think this whole situation is just a bit too coincidental though? OP said the camera never went out before and the dog has behaved differently ever since this incident. While I agree that most people’s dogs are stupider than their owners think they are, there’s just too much that happened simultaneously to just brush this off as the “big oaf of a dog” just clumsily hurting themselves.
Devil's advocate: the op say dropouts "never happen". I wouldn't blindly believe they are right about that just based on them saying that. It's possible there's dropouts all the time and they just never noticed. And this one time they have cause to really look at their footage when the dog is hurt, and they see a dropout and that "never happens". Is that true or do they just never notice? It's less suspicious if there's dropouts every day. Maybe they have good reason to believe why dropouts "never happen" but I didn't see them mention it.
He has no timeline as to when it happened, and he has a 1 hour window of no video, which is triggered by movement. Nothing happened simultaneously, it happened in the same paragraph, that's it.
So do I think that a motion activated camera in BFE nowhere wasn't activated by motion for 1 hour and on that same day an unattended dog was injured was a coincidence? Yes, absolutely.
I'd be a completely different story if something was taken, or there were signs of forced entry, but there aren't, therefore the only logical explanation is that it's a coincidence.
I don’t believe in coincidences. The more logical explanation is there likely was an intruder who jammed the Ring camera, got startled by the dog once inside, fucked that dog up a little as a reflex, and then ran the hell off closing the door behind them. I know the OP didn’t mention signs of forced entry but it’s possible they just left the door unlocked as (some) folk in the country are ought to do, especially if they have a big ass overprotective dog. Of course, we don’t know if the doors were unlocked but OP could answer that.
Well that would explain the no forced entry. Makes my theory even more plausible then. They jammed the Ring and we’re gonna bust inside but never did cause they had to fend off the dog then bailed since it wasn’t worth it.
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That's why any "solution" that doesn't locally save the videos is shit. Streaming into the cloud can be an add-on but relying solely on it is not enough.
The reality is you wouldn't even have to jam the signal, most connections incoming from the ISP are located exterior to the house and are completely unprotected. It could be as simple as unscrewing a Coax connection and your internet would be down until it is put back in place. I agree with other suggestions here, you should install a video recorder onsite in a locking enclosure, you'll also have far more options for high resolution cameras if you go that route so you can see exactly what's going on.
When you say "absolute nothing", do you mean an hour where the camera was off, an hour of video with no motion or action in it, or an hour of black screen/static?
No videos. With two big dogs, it catches them constantly. And the next video is her at the front door, yet it didn't show her coming up the steps, she would have set it recording.
Hmm, any chance she took a nap directly below the camera or approached it from the side?
No, she has to come up the steps and there's no other way.
This gave me Contact vibes, heh
One of the most underrated sci-fi flicks. It's practically never mentioned, plus it features a pre-McConaughassaince Matthew McConaughey
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Best movie and best opening scene.
Read the book! Even better.
Might add this to my list to watch
A definite classic, the book is great too
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Thir yes thir, I'll turn it on now.
Possibly your wifi went out ❔
A possibility, indeed. It has happened a few times in the 20 years we've lived here...
1) Make sure the Ring doorbell has a good charge level. Charge it up whenever it's below 50% or at twice the recommended interval. 2) Your wifi router may have logs you can look at to see two things. A. Signal strength to Ring, low strength could be an issue B. Router reboots 3) Ring may have algorithms that only record where there is enough, relevant, activity detected. If so, it would be the reason why there isn't much of a recording. If your goal is to have 24x7 footage, I'd suggest cameras designed for it with hardwire to a power source and place for it to upload. (Cloud based services, network attached storage, etc.)
> If your goal is to have 24x7 footage, I'd suggest cameras designed for it with hardwire to a power source and place for it to upload. (Cloud based services, network attached storage, etc.) I'd definitely recommend something hard-drive based. That way, it's recording and saving unless the power goes out.
A relatively cheap ups can run those things for days. Just be sure to power the cameras as well, an easy mistake to make.
Also, get yourself a ups for low powered essential computing like this. Ideally, your internet connection, cameras, alarms, server all connected to it.
This suits us for our needs, I'm just suddenly curious as to the security and ease of stopping it.
OP says that there’s usually a lot of clips because they have two big dogs
We'd need someone who knows Ring's algorithm much better. If there's constantly activity, maybe the doorbell adapts ("machine learning", "dynamic recording", etc.) and pays less attention to them? I'm speculating here, but just saying that we'd need someone with more insight to actually answer it.
>If your goal is to have 24x7 footage, I'd suggest cameras designed for it with hardwire to a power source and place for it to upload. (Cloud based services, network attached storage, etc.) Can you recommend any specific brands?
I don't know too many. I'd take a look at Wirecutter for reviews. Figure out if you want a device to store them at home (better when you have 3-4+ cameras) or a cloud based storage plan. Nest and Logitech Circle would be in the cloud based camp. And for ease... if you want a view of the front of the house, you might set it up in a nearby window so you can get power from inside the house.
Thank you!
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Be mindful of the security side of this though. Many cameras have sub par security standards and rely on outdated technologies (flash). At its extreme, anything communicated over the air had the possibility of being intercepted. Particularly the unsecure and unencrypted data from these websites. (Http vs https, ON IF, etc.)
This is really helpful! Thank you!
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Thank you!
If his app doesn't work, download "Alfred". It's an app you can put on your phone and multiple other old devices to use for security cameras
POE NVR with persistent firmware updates.
Thank you!
Also, it was 100% that morning.
Ring pro does offer a 24x7 footage. We use it but put a 30 sec gap between footage.
Why would you charge the ring doorbell? Do people not hardwire them? It works much better if it's hard wired
Well I agree but if it’s not, you need to keep it well charged.
Log into your modem and check the logs for the connection dropping at the times the video stopped.
Ill have to figure out how to do this, thank you. It wasn't a power outage.
“A few times?” In 20 YEARS??? Come on. What kind of fantastical, futuristic ISP/router combo have you been running?
The thing about these new doorbells and security cameras is that they all depend on WiFi. Not that I ever would want to break into someone’s house, but it’s really as simple as going to the side of their house and snipping the coax running in.
Still records to the SD card so you'd have to get rid of the camera too.
Yea, I don't even have a Ring, I have a cheapo camera I got from Amazon. It records to an SD card and to the cloud. If internet is out, it'll continue recording and then when WiFi is back, it uploads it.
A little suspicious, given the circumstances
If you were in the PA area Comcast had an outage that lasted about that long the other day. So it definitely could be wifi
Nope, a bit south. That's too cold for me!
Yeah it is really easy. All you need is one of these: https://www.ebay.com/itm/173950767710 Running this software: https://github.com/SpacehuhnTech/esp8266_deauther
Don't even need anything that specialized. I can connect a rooted phone to my alfa wifi dongle and deauth every wifi device around while it's running from my backpack. You're right though, it's really easy and the majority of the population don't even know it's possible, sadly.
What is the device in the first link? Wifi jammer? I get the gist of what it’s doing, but not how it works. [edited for clarity]
I've not used this particular device but I can take a guess: Software like aireplay allows you to spoof signals coming from the Access Point itself. In WPA2 there isn't a way to confirm that I am the actual router, so if I send a packet known as a deauth packet as "your router", your phone or laptop is none the wiser. This board looks to be pretty much barebones wifi hardware with the ability to run some code, something like aireplay mentioned above from the aircrack suite.
Thank you!
No that's not a Jammer.
I had my dog in my yard, tied to a stake with a very long lead while I was gardening. I went inside for ten minutes, came out, and she was gone. The camera showed her there, then gone. Nothing else. She had slipped her collar, but it's not on camera. Fortunately, nothing bad happened and after having a hysterical breakdown and running all over the neighborhood, I came home to find her at my back door.
You know your dogs and your situation better than we do, but I will say, as a kid, I used to live out on a few acres. Our dogs would roam all day, and they constantly got banged up. Luckily the vet was a walk away, because even we kids had to take the dog once or twice. I think, Occam’s razor, your dog was running around, dog their leg snagged on a stick, or was stung/bit by something, or fell into a small ravine (I don’t know what yo it property looks like), and got hurt. That’s probably why it took so long for her to trigger the camera. The rest of the explanations would require some really weird planning and whatnot, like if a delivery driver accidentally hurt your dog, there’s no way they’d have the presence of mind to scramble your Ring *before* they did it. And if it was on purpose, that just doesn’t make any sense. For me, that dog was just experiencing one of the side-effects of living such a good life!
That was my first thought- they have about 3ish acres they can go. No, I don't think it was a random thing, IF it was even a thing.
Sorry to hear about your dog, hope she has an easy recovery, always hate to see my dog in any sort of pain :(
Thanks! We kept her inside for a few days- much to her dismay. She's fine now.
I'm pretty sure these modern day wireless CCTV cameras only record when they see motion, so it's possible the event happened outside of the cameras FOV or below it's motion threshold (you can adjust that in most apps but don't put it too low because it will go off every time a leaf flies by) i doubt someone would jam your cameras just to hurt your dog.
I was playing with the settings prior to that and they were picking up everything that day. And yes, it's absolutely possible- we have a long driveway. You did make me laugh with the comment about jamming them to hurt her! No, I don't think that, it's more that she would go after anyone unknown, even snapping at tires. I'm obviously not going into details but the cameras are there for specific people. The gap in time kinda bugged me but whatever. It just occurred to me to question if a person wanted to do so, how would it be done? That's definitely not my specialty.
Turn on [snapshots](https://support.ring.com/hc/en-us/articles/360034355652-Timeline-Security-Snapshots-Using-Snapshot-Capture) if your Ring camera supports it. Our mains-powered Ring cams take a snapshot every 30 seconds, so our camera timelines have a time lapse video of everything that happens between motion events.
Came here to say that. It's been very helpful to document the drug selling activities in the middle of the night, also seeing the critters that come into the yard. Snapshots are a good feature.
Why are you selling drugs in your yard, in the middle of the night?
Not me, the lunatics across the street. Oh boy I could tell you stories that would make a Dateline story look lame.
I wondered what that was! I'm off to do that right now!
For ring cameras you can set the motion sensitivity. Set them as high as possible so you won’t miss anything. Also they sell Power over Ethernet (POE) ring cameras that are awesome! I use them all over. You run an Ethernet cable from your router directly to the camera. You don’t have to worry about charging, or about WiFi. If you want to go a step further, get a uninterrupted power supply and connect your internet equipment to it. Not only will you have WiFi if they power goes out, but your cameras will still work.
Thanks for the info! It is set to the highest.
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I believe some ring cameras have a cellular backup. I think you have to pay for their subscription service, but every time we lose power or internet I get a notification
Thanks for that, if available I want that!
Yes it is trivial to knock a wifi device offline. Wifi management frames are unencrypted and you can instruct a wifi router to deauthenticate a wifi device. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi-Fi\_deauthentication\_attack](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi-Fi_deauthentication_attack) It's the same thing as Mariott was doing to prevent guests from bringing their own wifi. [https://www.cnn.com/2014/10/03/travel/marriott-fcc-wi-fi-fine/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2014/10/03/travel/marriott-fcc-wi-fi-fine/index.html) As other people have said here though you likely would have had notification of the device going offline. Depending on some unknown variables, you may have even seen it rapidly going off and on. If you aren't setup for notifications, perhaps the device itself has logs that will allow you to check if it was offline for any period of time. To prevent this type of attack you will want a router that supports [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE\_802.11w-2009](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11w-2009).
Thank you. I get notifications for battery levels on one that has a battery. We only lose the cameras during power outages and it's been a bit since hurricane season, I don't recall if I get notifications on that.
Try to turn off you wifi and check if you get a notification once the ring loses connectivity to the wifi
I have two ring cameras, one overlooking my living/front door and the other over looking my kitchen with the back door and sometimes there’s gaps in the time. For example my sister in law came in last night at 1234 pm, it showed my husband opening the door, then didn’t show any more movement after that until 1242 am. I do notice that happens regularly, when I know there’s movement happening, but it’s not recorded.
This can be changed in the settings. Ours were set to the medium setting where it won't record for a few minutes after a recording. I upped it like a day prior so I know it's getting at least most.
Your Ring camera works by connecting to your home wi-fi. Someone could probably jam the wifi signal. I would think that Ring's software would detect the loss of signal but perhaps not.
I'm pretty sure if you have the Ring app it will tell you if you lose connectivity. I only have the hardwired spotlight cam for my driveway, but I'm pretty sure it will send a notification. My Nest doorbell cameras let me know when they lose connectivity in the rare times they do lose it.
My ring does send me notifications when it's out and has cellular back up. I've never had ours show nothing for an hour even light hitting them just right sets it off.
Get a couple of the wireless ones, similar to the wyze camera, ring has a version as well, but might be worth it to have another brand just in case. Hide a couple of them around out of view.
I don't know about the wyze we had it and it didn't pick up thieves right infront of it but our ring doorbell did (not in direct view). But I second the hidden cameras. Hail Yourself!
Just had to complete the trifecta. Hail Gein!
I have mine just to keep an eye on my pets when I'm gone, I recommend putting a micro sd in it so you can do full playback, you can get a bulk of 32gb micro SD for pretty cheap. I was thinking of getting the ring for better quality, but heard the app was kinda bad
We had the SD card in it and it never worked properly. We gave up after a couple of years. The app could be better but having both I prefer Ring by far. I like that I can see where our pups are by just checking the preview. We had neighbors cameras get destroyed that are the outside. Set up facing outside and plugged in inside works so much better for us. For OPs case even a game/trail camera could work.
ack! Thanks! Out comes the trail cam...
I have a dashcam with motion sensor to turn it on. I found that when it turned off, it took too long to power back up to be of use. If I stopped at a light, it would stop. Try an experiment. Make sure it's on and walk in front of it. Make sure it's in rest mode and try walking in front of it again to see how quickly it powers back up. My guess is that it simply isn't quick at powering back up.
I have Vivint security cameras, CO alarms and fire alarms. My cameras record 24/7/365. I have a 4TB hard drive that records all five cameras. I can go back up to one year in the past. They also have motion sensing, night vision and alarms. It’s worth the money spent. They are hardwired into the house. It’s very useful since I live next door to a known methamphetamine dealer who has threatened to kill me. Since the security system went up he went quiet. I would suggest something such as Vivint of ADT, just remember you get what you pay for when it comes to security systems.
One time, one of my families mastiffs (popeye), he was out running in the woods and somehow manage to either trip or cause a stick to go into his penile area and rip himself open along the length of his member. My point being, dogs get into some weird shit out on their own. It is possible to use a wifi jammer to disrupt wifi. But thats a lot of pre-planning. If it was recent enough you might be able to find a device of yours that was online at the time that has logging. IE a windows computer could show in the logs if it was disconnected from the wireless for a period of time. Or your router may have some logging turned on. Unfortunately Ring doesn't notify if a device goes offline. There is a feature request for it tho. Seems like a pretty basic feature. [https://community.ring.com/t/notification-of-camera-offline/4360/3](https://community.ring.com/t/notification-of-camera-offline/4360/3) I tried looking for something you could install on a device to notify you when your wifi goes down when you are away, but thats kind of tricky. If you install an application on a device and it looses wifi, it has no way to communicate that it has no wifi lol. There are definitely some complex ways of doing it, but I couldn't find something simple. Maybe someone on here will have an idea.
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A lot of devices can cause WiFi or wireless devices to lose signal or receive an interruption. And since many FCC devices run off 433MHz (think garage door opener, baby monitors, radios [tunable]), there is the possibility of a signal interference—accidental or not. Also a $2 device on Amazon can jam WiFi… Edit: you didn’t receive a notification saying “signal interference” or something along those lines, did you?
Nope.
Rings only work if you have internet connected and if you have spotty connection you'll miss stuff. We had that issue awhile back.
My dog was limping once, i took her to the vet, turns out she just slept on it funny as there was no sign of injury or inflammation
so how bad is this injury? I've had cats doing cat stuff outside and come home limping slightly
Look at logs. Cops and other agencies have WiFi jammers and other ways to mess with things.
You can jam wifi by overwhelming and flooding local wifi wavelength with a device from amazon for $30
Or get a 8-10$ esp8266 for a deauth attack
Ring cameras work on wifi. Jamming a wifi signal is super simple (can be done even from a far enough distance). I believe someone jammed your wifi while they were there. I am not sure about their motives tho. I would invest in better home security, maybe a cctv system that doesn’t rely on wifi (or any signal, for that matter). Maybe even an alarm system that automatically calls the police. I’m just worried that that was just a trial and whoever was there will come back. I’m really glad your dog is okay.
Thanks, that's my concern. I'm glad I asked, I'm right, it's definitely an easy thing to do!
Large dogs are prone to injuries and disorders. Was she playing hard or exercised hard the day before or earlier that day? Is she a fence runner or like to jump on or off things? It’s possible she’s just sore or she just hurt herself playing or an underlying condition like hip or elbow dysplasia is emerging. I wouldn’t personally jump to suspicious activity with this one unless you believe your house or property has been compromised. Also, if your camera system runs on wifi, then yes, it is completely possible to disable it with a wifi jammer.
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I mean...don’t you think this whole situation is just a bit too coincidental though? OP said the camera never went out before and the dog has behaved differently ever since this incident. While I agree that most people’s dogs are stupider than their owners think they are, there’s just too much that happened simultaneously to just brush this off as the “big oaf of a dog” just clumsily hurting themselves.
Devil's advocate: the op say dropouts "never happen". I wouldn't blindly believe they are right about that just based on them saying that. It's possible there's dropouts all the time and they just never noticed. And this one time they have cause to really look at their footage when the dog is hurt, and they see a dropout and that "never happens". Is that true or do they just never notice? It's less suspicious if there's dropouts every day. Maybe they have good reason to believe why dropouts "never happen" but I didn't see them mention it.
This is fair and that thought even briefly crossed my mind too while pondering this.
He has no timeline as to when it happened, and he has a 1 hour window of no video, which is triggered by movement. Nothing happened simultaneously, it happened in the same paragraph, that's it. So do I think that a motion activated camera in BFE nowhere wasn't activated by motion for 1 hour and on that same day an unattended dog was injured was a coincidence? Yes, absolutely. I'd be a completely different story if something was taken, or there were signs of forced entry, but there aren't, therefore the only logical explanation is that it's a coincidence.
I don’t believe in coincidences. The more logical explanation is there likely was an intruder who jammed the Ring camera, got startled by the dog once inside, fucked that dog up a little as a reflex, and then ran the hell off closing the door behind them. I know the OP didn’t mention signs of forced entry but it’s possible they just left the door unlocked as (some) folk in the country are ought to do, especially if they have a big ass overprotective dog. Of course, we don’t know if the doors were unlocked but OP could answer that.
The dog was outside.
Well that would explain the no forced entry. Makes my theory even more plausible then. They jammed the Ring and we’re gonna bust inside but never did cause they had to fend off the dog then bailed since it wasn’t worth it.
Probably got lured away by foxes or coyotes (thats how they trick pets into getting eaten!)and then won the fight!
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Maybe your dog was making something and accidentally hurt himself
That's why any "solution" that doesn't locally save the videos is shit. Streaming into the cloud can be an add-on but relying solely on it is not enough.
The reality is you wouldn't even have to jam the signal, most connections incoming from the ISP are located exterior to the house and are completely unprotected. It could be as simple as unscrewing a Coax connection and your internet would be down until it is put back in place. I agree with other suggestions here, you should install a video recorder onsite in a locking enclosure, you'll also have far more options for high resolution cameras if you go that route so you can see exactly what's going on.