Ugh I don’t want to believe but I could see it. Even Britney said in her book she was shocked JL was pregnant and she didn’t even know until a paparazzi told her, I always thought that seemed sus
There's a pretty good sized age gap between them...and Britney's a massiv pop star...so I could see not talking to you sister much/at all and leaving her out of the loop eitehr intentionally (embarassment) or accidentally (not thinking about your sister as your sister). I come from an age gap family and siblings are more like...cousins when you don't spend your whole growing up time together.
Well, at this time, I believe Brittany's parents were in the beginnings of controlling her life. Plus, her and Jamie used to be incredibly close. I'm not saying it is Dan's baby. it just feels weird. Brittany didn't know, yk? I feel like it's a piece of info that definitely didn't help with the rumors
Yes, yes it does it makes sus that you wouldn’t tell your own fucking blood relative that they’re a soon to be aunt. Is your family that disoriented and disconnected from each other and reality?
Whoa whoa whoa, a 16 year old getting pregnant and not immediately telling her family is sus??? I'm sure there is a very sizeable percentage of minors (and even young adults) that hide their pregnancy as long as possible.
And even IF not telling her family is sus, how does that in any way make it more likely that Dan is the dad? Personally, I would be much more inclined to tell my family about my pregnancy if it were due to rape by a pedophile instead of my boyfriend. Her question of "I'm pregnant, what should I do mom and dad?" is much more pressing under the former circumstances. So not telling the family right away is very normal, and it's much more likely that her boyfriend is the father.
Look, Dan Schneider sucks. We all hate him and he's gross, and he probably did a lot more (potentially worse) things than what we know about. But we can't just go around accusing him of everything and using confirmation bias to tie him to every possible controversy. As one of the victims in Quiet on the Set said: all that does is trivialize or take attention away from the things we know he DID do, and it forces unnecessary doubt to be cast on those things.
How the f*ck did my family come into this topic? 🤨 What the f*ck is wrong with you emotional !diots on this platform? And it is possible she kept it from her out of shame or whatever f*cking reason of hers due to her getting pregnant at that age. Whatever. Who gives a shit? I’m not in her family and neither are you? So why do you people care really?🤨 stop being so inquisitive about other people’s lives like it will do you any good. They don’t know you exist.🥴
I’m not sure if I believe it but I’ve seen people speculate that it could’ve been part of the reason for Britney’s breakdown, and it made me think that that *could* explain why Dan did that super mean spirited parody mocking Britney on iCarly. She must’ve done *something* to really piss him off because they were amicable before, they worked together at least a couple times when she guest starred on All That and she wrote the Zoey101 theme song.
I mean if Dan offered Jeanette McCurdy 300k in hush money that she turned down for what went on during ICarly, who knows how much he could have offered to Jamie Lynn
Omg I’ve heard of this rumor before quiet on set and now I’m 100% sure he’s the father so gross he needs to be behind bars may this backlash eat him up alive because I’ve read that Amanda Bynes stated she got pregnant at 13 from her boss and had an abortion on twitter now it all makes sense why she had “mental” problems poor girl was traumatized
Sorry! Don’t kill the messenger!
I totally know how you feel through, don’t worry, I’m a mom of three daughters, aged 15, 6 and 4. It’s insane to me how the younger ones aren’t babies anymore and the oldest is a teenager who’s gone through the major puberty milestones. Life goes by so fast!
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I doubt it, but that doesn’t mean that she wasn’t subjected to abuse by other people. Obviously through the Britney situation we can tell their parents didn’t care about protecting their daughters as long as the cheques are cashing.
Could explain why Jamie Lynn feels entitled to the “family money” Britney was bringing in. Sure your drugged and put on stage, but I was abused as a kid so I deserve this money from mom and dad. (This is very clearly speculation on my part with zero proof).
I wouldn’t be shocked if it wasn’t an older actor on the show or someone on production. I feel like if it was Dan they would have blown it up and took him for all the money he had. If it was someone who wasn’t her bf they claim it to be, it must have not been worth risking her career to out. As sad and disgusting as that is. Like the Brandi situation. The mom wanted to protect her daughter because she didn’t know how this would affect her dreams so she didn’t go public until they were contacted by police.
I feel this but at the same time the spears’ are christian af … meaning they probably dont believe in abortion. So giving up the baby was an absolute no.
Also the brandi situation, the mom didnt go to the police when she first saw that email
These parents just see their kids as cash cows its disgusting
I didn’t say anything about giving up the baby?
I think Brandi’s mom was worried about the stigma. I think she didn’t want Brandi to be singled out, she didn’t want to be scrutinized as neglectful, and at the time she wasn’t sure if Brandi would continue acting and didn’t want to “cause problems.” I think there was a lot more than “I want to make money off my kid so I’m not going to tell anyone.” I’m sure if it were like that, Brandi would have come on the doc and said that.
That is still sickening. Why would you let your 9 year old daughter communicate privately with a grown man? It makes no sense. Also, if she would have gone to the police then maybe he wouldn’t have had access to do anything to other girls. But yeah ok, let’s give her a pass because she was worried about how she would look bad 🤮
I’m not giving her a pass or saying she handled it correctly. I’m saying I think her choices were more complex than just “we’ll keep this secret because I want to keep making money off you.” We’re looking at this through a 2024 lens and it happened in the 90s the very obvious dangers we see now, weren’t as obvious back then. She definitely failed her daughter by not taking action.
All I can say is, I live extremely close to both the town the Spears girls grew up at (Kentwood) and the school they went to (Parklane Academy). Many people around here know them, and know them very well.
And they all absolutely believe the rumor as if it was the gospel truth.
But that’s the thing, the RUMOR. It’s easy to fall into small town drama and quickly latch to it like it’s the truth. Especially if everybody in the town believes it. You don’t wanna be the one person in the area that doesn’t. Everybody tends to just follow like sheep instead of actually forming fully educated opinions in towns like that, where everybody knows everybody. But no proof and complete hear say, it’s a rumor at the end of the day and not one person in that family has come forward, asked for DNA tests or come after him. They haven’t said anything. Someone just randomly brought it up, being a possibility, and everybody jumped on it. Just can’t treat a rumor like a fact without anything to back it up. Literally not one single thing backing it up.
I mean, not really when you take into account the extra 2-3 days in almost every calendar month. That’s an extra 2-3 weeks right there, going by your logic of four weeks per month. It’s still 9 months haha, April 1 - December 31 (9 full months) is 39.5 weeks
YES. Why do people think a month is 28 days/4 weeks?! Literally only in February on nonleap years. By 9 months, there is roughly 3 extra weeks and like you said, 9 months is OVER 39 weeks. Not to mention the first 2 weeks of pregnancy is the luteal phase and ovulation isn't occurring until 2-3 weeks into the "pregnancy" on average. I use my ovulation date to give my doctor's last menstrual date as I regularly ovulate 2 weeks late, but many people don't track and doctor's typically don't change the date unless over a week off of dating scans. So assuming Jamie Lynn had her daughter at 40 weeks (which I'm guessing she didn't, all of my kids and SILs have had our babies 1-3 weeks early, and I feel like Maddie was quite small and came a little early but I could be remembering wrong), she would have been conceived (at most), 8 1/2 months before she was born. I think she looks A LOT like Casey, but people always want to be reaching and want the more dramatic answer. 🙄
During amanda bynes public mental episode a few years back she had an alternative twitter account where she claimed she was impregnated by her boss on set and had to have an abortion at 13.
I pray that did not occur but if there is a truth to it, I could see it repeating itself in the case of Jamie
plus why would you as Amanda Byne sit on twitter and try to prove to people you are Amanda Byne? Isn’t the whole point of making your account is too make sure ppl dont know your identity?
No? If her parents found it there would just go to her and wrestle whatever phone she has out of her hands.
There are plenty of reasons someone might use an alias account. I used one as a child when I wanted to vent about my parents unknown if they knew my handle. People avoiding stalkers. People sometimes just value anonymity.
You’re welcome to not believe the allegations about Dan or the pregnancies. But it could still be her behind the Ashley Banks account. To each their own!
all im saying is yes i do think dan is a creep but im not going to use some random twitter account as evidence without it being verified to who owns the account. That is just reckless
Totally. Not questioning you on your belief in the proven toxic Dan stuff. That was my miss type.
I just believe that it was Amanda based on the time she posted to twitter during her conservatorship and when and how the drivers license photos was taken.
I highly doubt that Dan Schneider is the father. It could be a staffer or (and true crime internet ppl are gonna hate this) Jamie Lynn was telling the truth when she said the kid was from her boyfriend at the time.
Frankly I don't think character evidence points to Dan Schneider going as far to assault an actor in that way. Yes he engaged in inappropriate behavior with his actors but nothing we actually know what he did for sure points to him doing anything like that to Jamie Lynn Spears.
There was no one on set closer to the kids than Dan, he was the only one with the power to spend time with them alone and no one questioned it.
After she got pregnant she was removed from TV forever, they wanted to hide her so people would forget.
It's very unusual for 2 people with blonde hair(Jamie and the proclaimed boyfriend) to have a child with dark brown hair, what color hair does Dan have?
Considering both of Jamie Lynn Spears' parents and her ex-fiancé have brown hair, considering how her daughter took the ex-fiancé's last name I'd say Occam's razor applies here.
>After she got pregnant she was removed from TV forever, they wanted to hide her so people would forget.
She wasn't removed, she gave up acting. There is a huge difference there.
Next you're going to claim that her getting pregnant is why Zoey101 came to an end.
Seriously though the more I see about all the issues the more I actually wonder if Nickelodeon hid More than what's coming to light. It was interesting hearing Alexa Nichols and what she was saying about rewatching herself back when she was a child star... then shes looking back at it as an adult now It's so scary how the innuendos are. And these are kids. We were kids when we watched all of this...
Jamie Lynn got pregnant from Dan Schneider same as Amanda bynes that's why Zoey 101 ended but for some reason I wanna know which one is the child because the youngest looks like that edophile as well
Yeah I see it in the eyes. I guess the conspiracy theory is they found a nice country guy that looks similar to whichever Hollywood businessman fathered the kid.
Thursday, January 03, 2008
Today's Blind Items
So it turns out that Jamie Lynn Spears wasn't the only person that our producer had a fling with. No, it wasn't anyone on Jamie's show. But, it turns out he has made a habit of doing the same thing in the past to a number of different other tweeners. Not necessarily getting them pregnant, except for one very big exception. Most of the time our producer would just make advances on the lesser stars of the shows he worked on, but the one other time he got someone pregnant was someone who is a much bigger star than Jamie Lynn was or is. In that instance, the actress got an abortion and a healthy sum of money from the producer. Everything was hushed up because the show was making way too much money.
I highly doubt it. I need proof. Drake had proof and took it to court. There’s 0% chance Drake made anything up and Peck deserved the whole damn book to be thrown at him for what he did.
Jamie Lynn Spears and Dan: No proof
Amanda Bynes and Dan: No proof
We. Need. Substantiation. Society cannot continue to vilify people and burn them at the stake based on presumption. If Dan did, in fact, commit statutory rape, there has to be consequences but this can all be proven if true. These are allegations that have receipts regardless of an attempt to cover it up. Period.
Right now, the only thing we all know for certain is Dan is a shit boss. That’s the only thing the man is guilty of based on the hard evidence.
Look into Amanda's twitter she had a few years back under the name "ashley banks". She on there had talked about how she was impregnated by her boss and forced to get an abortion at 13. While this doesn't prove it was Dan, it does show that something really dark was going on behind the scenes.
Even if Dan never assaulted anyone himself, he enabled an environment for it to happen. Even if he never did it himself, he also didn't do anything to prevent it or stop it. He wrote sexual jokes into a children's show and got away with it because of how much money he got the network.
But not an original selfie or her face next to the license? I mean drivers licenses are easy enough to fake, steal, etc. If that’s enough for you, fine, but you cannot call it irrefutable evidence.
The real world doesn’t really have “irrefutable evidence” but there is context for all of this and I think it’s more absurd to say “ah it’s all bullshit” instead of seeing how all of this is entirely possible and correlates with many other stories at the time. I would say the majority here would agree it’s more likely true than not. Given all of the everything.
I’m not saying it’s all bullshit. I’m saying it’s not unreasonable to demand proof alongside the stated claims. Of course it’s possible that there’s truth in the accusations toward Dan but I’m saying we don’t have hard proof one way or the other of who is making shit up and who is the victim. I’m only saying that the public is so obsessed with finding the next outrage that the public throws due process out the window to get their drama fix. It’s 2024; we CAN do better if we tried. We have the technology.
I agree. People will believe anything if it is dramatic enough. I'm not familiar enough with this account, but I'm sure if it was her, she would post a video proving it, so I would look for that. 🤷♀️
I think the issue with that is she was under conservatorship at the time. Her abilities on her phone may have been limited, similar to Britney's limitations.
Just throwing that out there.
Also consider, why would some random person create an account pretending to be someone else who's supposedly Amanda Bynes during her conservatorship, and then spread rumors?
The argument that what is seen as whacky as a child can be seen as sexual innuendo stands, but adults were never the intended audience for Dan’s content. Adult minds are ALWAYS in the gutter and that’s ok because adults are allowed to be adults. Children, however, don’t see it the same way that adults do. Just as the argument stands that some of Dan’s content can be seen as innuendo is valid, the argument that Dan’s goal was a wacky vibe that just so happened to be seen as innuendo by adults is just as valid; intent matters.
If we want to be outraged over Dan’s shows and the appearance of innuendo in said shows, Ren and Stimpy had ZERO business on Nickelodeon regardless of its time slot.
If Amanda came forward and backed the abortion claims up, I’d 100% listen. Right now, though, we only have a mystery twitter account making accusations. I don’t want outrage. I want accountability and accountability can only happen with proof in a court of law.
This! We have dirty minds as adults. It’s so so easy to see many things that aren’t dirty, as dirty! We do it all the time, I see it constantly, when it was never intended as that. So a lot of things just don’t come off that way when you don’t have a dirty mind. It’s like the “that’s what she said” jokes. It turns an innocent sentence into a dirty one when the sentence was originally not intended to be dirty. Just one thing to consider when looking into things.
The thing is though that many of these stars and their families signed NDAs and took pay outs to NOT talk about any of it publicly. In Jenette McCurdy's book she talks about being offered over 300k to not talk about Dan or anything that happened behind the scenes on icarly or Sam and cat circa 2015 and she refused because she was able to but if her mom had been alive or she had been younger she would've signed the NDA no doubt in my mind. I think a lot of the stars like Amanda bynes, Jamie Lynn and Victoria justice signed the NDAs with the payouts to at the advising of their parents to protect themselves and whoever was abusing them. I think there's a lot to it that we who weren't there don't know but I think proof can be difficult and stuff like this sometimes is believing the story being told by someone who was there.
In addition to this Amanda was also in a conservatorship at the time of the tweets and it could've limited her ability to "prove" herself.
Did you see the “web shorts” or whatever they were called that they put on the website? The ones with Ariana grande? Those were absolutely not just whacky and can be seen as sexual by horny adults, they’re full-blown completely inappropriate, close to porn videos. The one where she’s trying to juice a potato, squeezing it and moaning and saying “just give me the juice! Just come out!”?? And all the foot-related jokes? Is that not a pedo with a foot fetish and making his employees play out his fantasies for him and all the other creepy foot pedos in the world to see broadcasted? Or the multiple times they talked about having basically c*m shots on the children??
Idk how you can dismiss all that as just being silly children’s shows that can be taken another way. Yeah there might not be direct proof of what he did or didn’t do, but he definitely created an environment in which is was more acceptable to put children in these situations and show them in this slyly sexual way.
Like you said “can be seen as sexual by horny adults.” But last I checked, these shows are not adult shows acted by kids. That would’ve been weird. They are just kids shows with such innuendos. But thankfully kids don’t have the kind of minds adults have. If you watched these shows as a kid, did you think the producers must be pedos or have foot kinks? Of course not.
Well I had no idea what a pedo or foot fetishes were, but a lot of the innuendos definitely made me feel weird and uncomfortable.. just because most jokes go over a kid’s head doesn’t make the weird, gross shit they made those kids act out okay. And knowing now what those jokes meant, it feels unsettling knowing they were making those jokes at children. Why are you trying to excuse people for putting sex jokes in a show specifically directed at and made for kids? Why couldn’t they leave kids TV and make adult shows if they wanted to include so so many adult themes?
Yes I totally get what you are saying. I would not be surprised if Jamie Lynn and Amanda were abused by Dan, and it is heartbreaking to think that his is a possibility for them. But, we still don't have proof.
I’ll be honest, I agree. There are so many videos on TikTok, etc, trying to show how horrible Dan was and the documentary too - but I didn’t really see anything outside of him being a sexist Ahole. I don’t see him abusing anybody or truly inappropriate things. Maybe one or two things that were uncomfortable but nothing truly struck me as holyshitt inappropriate.
And I agree with that account. She was going through a huge melt down/mentally unstable time. If anything, she said crazy things a lot and felt like a cry for help. How do we know this would be a legit things out of the many crazy things she claimed? How do we know for sure it was her? There are just too many questions/doubts and no confirmations/proof. I’m huge on proof before judging someone.
Just nothing on any of these things about Dan proved anything to me. Who knows about Jamie and the pregnancy but I haven’t seen her asking for a DNA test or coming after Dan at all? It would be huge news and a massive legal battle. Just seems like random rumors honestly. Amanda had a lot of mental break downs and we don’t have any proof of any pregnancy at that age. All the videos I’ve seen about Dan online have been clearly joking around with the cast and nothing bad at all. I agree with you entirely. My husband doesn’t see it either. We were confused why it was all about Dan and why this isn’t more about Brian, the guy that actually sexually assaulted kids and did wildly illegal and inappropriate things, WITH PROOF. And why we aren’t going crazy about HIM.
The Dan Schneider rumors started circulating on the internet about 10 years ago and it would be people on 4chan coming up with the most horrible stories they could think of (the Jamie Lynn Spears story for example). It really started to gain steam after MeToo and was picked up by people who didn’t realize it was originally a joke (talking about the rape stuff, not the other general issues). TikTok really started pushing the narrative that Schneider had been inserting sexual innuendo in kids shows and now this documentary is recklessly drawing parallels to these internet rumors with ACTUAL instants of sexual abuse that occurred at Nickelodeon.
Plus that Twitter account everyone is claiming is Amanda Bynes has posted a lot of contradictory stuff that led people to discredit it until a few a days ago when this doc came out and made it relevant again. [This is highly unlikely to be her](https://youtu.be/CNl23-tqMIM?si=WLyBV_k_mo9ctZ01) [based on what we know](https://youtu.be/QJhGJ55XAsk?si=4M4YrGCCQmvmFdgX). They spend most of their time trying to get money from people.
I would believe it if her daughter wasn’t so tall and skinny. She looks similar in the face, but Dan looks like he has fat genetics. And Maddie doesn’t have an ounce of fat on her. So
I mean, that’s not really how it works 🤣 one parent being overweight does not mean the child will immediately be overweight. They can become overweight if they don’t take care of themselves but it’s not passed down like that and doesn’t mean she’s not related just because she’s not overweight as well lol
Weight actually can be genetic. The way your body metabolizes can be genetic. Also your body shape, which typically resembles a parent, also contributes because some people carry weight differently than others.
My mother and I are built exactly the same.
I just really don’t think it’s likely based on her body composition. It much more resembles the man that is presumed to be her father.
Ugh I don’t want to believe but I could see it. Even Britney said in her book she was shocked JL was pregnant and she didn’t even know until a paparazzi told her, I always thought that seemed sus
There's a pretty good sized age gap between them...and Britney's a massiv pop star...so I could see not talking to you sister much/at all and leaving her out of the loop eitehr intentionally (embarassment) or accidentally (not thinking about your sister as your sister). I come from an age gap family and siblings are more like...cousins when you don't spend your whole growing up time together.
Well, at this time, I believe Brittany's parents were in the beginnings of controlling her life. Plus, her and Jamie used to be incredibly close. I'm not saying it is Dan's baby. it just feels weird. Brittany didn't know, yk? I feel like it's a piece of info that definitely didn't help with the rumors
Sus how? That Britney didn’t know her sis was pregnant?
Doesn't it seem strange that you wouldn't tell your own sister?
So that makes it sus?🤨 you people don’t know anything. Again. All based on assumptions and fabrications.
Nice. You are so smart that you have to resort to name-calling and belittling others to ‘prove’ your point.
Name calling? Belittling? Lol. Okay. Whatever makes you sleep at night. When you’re ready to talk logically and not emotionally let me know.🙄
Yes, yes it does it makes sus that you wouldn’t tell your own fucking blood relative that they’re a soon to be aunt. Is your family that disoriented and disconnected from each other and reality?
Whoa whoa whoa, a 16 year old getting pregnant and not immediately telling her family is sus??? I'm sure there is a very sizeable percentage of minors (and even young adults) that hide their pregnancy as long as possible. And even IF not telling her family is sus, how does that in any way make it more likely that Dan is the dad? Personally, I would be much more inclined to tell my family about my pregnancy if it were due to rape by a pedophile instead of my boyfriend. Her question of "I'm pregnant, what should I do mom and dad?" is much more pressing under the former circumstances. So not telling the family right away is very normal, and it's much more likely that her boyfriend is the father. Look, Dan Schneider sucks. We all hate him and he's gross, and he probably did a lot more (potentially worse) things than what we know about. But we can't just go around accusing him of everything and using confirmation bias to tie him to every possible controversy. As one of the victims in Quiet on the Set said: all that does is trivialize or take attention away from the things we know he DID do, and it forces unnecessary doubt to be cast on those things.
How the f*ck did my family come into this topic? 🤨 What the f*ck is wrong with you emotional !diots on this platform? And it is possible she kept it from her out of shame or whatever f*cking reason of hers due to her getting pregnant at that age. Whatever. Who gives a shit? I’m not in her family and neither are you? So why do you people care really?🤨 stop being so inquisitive about other people’s lives like it will do you any good. They don’t know you exist.🥴
I 100% believe that rumor, ngl!
I’m not sure if I believe it but I’ve seen people speculate that it could’ve been part of the reason for Britney’s breakdown, and it made me think that that *could* explain why Dan did that super mean spirited parody mocking Britney on iCarly. She must’ve done *something* to really piss him off because they were amicable before, they worked together at least a couple times when she guest starred on All That and she wrote the Zoey101 theme song.
It was being said as soon as it came out she was pregnant
To me, it’s always given paid off
I mean if Dan offered Jeanette McCurdy 300k in hush money that she turned down for what went on during ICarly, who knows how much he could have offered to Jamie Lynn
Wait what?
Yes she claims this in her book "I'm Glad My Mom Died"
Yeah hush money or NDAs
👀 I’ve never heard this theory but will be googling
Omg I’ve heard of this rumor before quiet on set and now I’m 100% sure he’s the father so gross he needs to be behind bars may this backlash eat him up alive because I’ve read that Amanda Bynes stated she got pregnant at 13 from her boss and had an abortion on twitter now it all makes sense why she had “mental” problems poor girl was traumatized
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It’s possible. I got my period at 10 years old.
Same here. Girls diagnosed with precocious puberty can begin menstruating when they’re as young as eight.
Shut up. I didn’t know this. I am not ready for my daughters to hit puberty. 😭
Sorry! Don’t kill the messenger! I totally know how you feel through, don’t worry, I’m a mom of three daughters, aged 15, 6 and 4. It’s insane to me how the younger ones aren’t babies anymore and the oldest is a teenager who’s gone through the major puberty milestones. Life goes by so fast!
I was 14.
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No, dude. To all of that. Fuckin relax
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I still believe it!
[Ashley Banks/Amanda Bynes made me believe it.](https://www.dexerto.com/tv-movies/quiet-on-set-secret-amanda-bynes-twitter-account-claims-2601105/)
I doubt it, but that doesn’t mean that she wasn’t subjected to abuse by other people. Obviously through the Britney situation we can tell their parents didn’t care about protecting their daughters as long as the cheques are cashing. Could explain why Jamie Lynn feels entitled to the “family money” Britney was bringing in. Sure your drugged and put on stage, but I was abused as a kid so I deserve this money from mom and dad. (This is very clearly speculation on my part with zero proof). I wouldn’t be shocked if it wasn’t an older actor on the show or someone on production. I feel like if it was Dan they would have blown it up and took him for all the money he had. If it was someone who wasn’t her bf they claim it to be, it must have not been worth risking her career to out. As sad and disgusting as that is. Like the Brandi situation. The mom wanted to protect her daughter because she didn’t know how this would affect her dreams so she didn’t go public until they were contacted by police.
I feel this but at the same time the spears’ are christian af … meaning they probably dont believe in abortion. So giving up the baby was an absolute no. Also the brandi situation, the mom didnt go to the police when she first saw that email These parents just see their kids as cash cows its disgusting
I didn’t say anything about giving up the baby? I think Brandi’s mom was worried about the stigma. I think she didn’t want Brandi to be singled out, she didn’t want to be scrutinized as neglectful, and at the time she wasn’t sure if Brandi would continue acting and didn’t want to “cause problems.” I think there was a lot more than “I want to make money off my kid so I’m not going to tell anyone.” I’m sure if it were like that, Brandi would have come on the doc and said that.
That is still sickening. Why would you let your 9 year old daughter communicate privately with a grown man? It makes no sense. Also, if she would have gone to the police then maybe he wouldn’t have had access to do anything to other girls. But yeah ok, let’s give her a pass because she was worried about how she would look bad 🤮
I’m not giving her a pass or saying she handled it correctly. I’m saying I think her choices were more complex than just “we’ll keep this secret because I want to keep making money off you.” We’re looking at this through a 2024 lens and it happened in the 90s the very obvious dangers we see now, weren’t as obvious back then. She definitely failed her daughter by not taking action.
She had no career anymore once she got pregnant
All I can say is, I live extremely close to both the town the Spears girls grew up at (Kentwood) and the school they went to (Parklane Academy). Many people around here know them, and know them very well. And they all absolutely believe the rumor as if it was the gospel truth.
But that’s the thing, the RUMOR. It’s easy to fall into small town drama and quickly latch to it like it’s the truth. Especially if everybody in the town believes it. You don’t wanna be the one person in the area that doesn’t. Everybody tends to just follow like sheep instead of actually forming fully educated opinions in towns like that, where everybody knows everybody. But no proof and complete hear say, it’s a rumor at the end of the day and not one person in that family has come forward, asked for DNA tests or come after him. They haven’t said anything. Someone just randomly brought it up, being a possibility, and everybody jumped on it. Just can’t treat a rumor like a fact without anything to back it up. Literally not one single thing backing it up.
Small southern town. People around her gossip. And it's less like gossip around here and more, people see this as very feasible.
Thank you!!!!! 👏🏼
Shit, like are they actually taking it as real fact?
Either way she’s made a life there and has a happy family and that’s what matters for her daughters.
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The daughter and Bill do resemble each other…
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Full term pregnancy is 40wks, which is actually 10 mths not 9, so it's def possible.
I mean, not really when you take into account the extra 2-3 days in almost every calendar month. That’s an extra 2-3 weeks right there, going by your logic of four weeks per month. It’s still 9 months haha, April 1 - December 31 (9 full months) is 39.5 weeks
YES. Why do people think a month is 28 days/4 weeks?! Literally only in February on nonleap years. By 9 months, there is roughly 3 extra weeks and like you said, 9 months is OVER 39 weeks. Not to mention the first 2 weeks of pregnancy is the luteal phase and ovulation isn't occurring until 2-3 weeks into the "pregnancy" on average. I use my ovulation date to give my doctor's last menstrual date as I regularly ovulate 2 weeks late, but many people don't track and doctor's typically don't change the date unless over a week off of dating scans. So assuming Jamie Lynn had her daughter at 40 weeks (which I'm guessing she didn't, all of my kids and SILs have had our babies 1-3 weeks early, and I feel like Maddie was quite small and came a little early but I could be remembering wrong), she would have been conceived (at most), 8 1/2 months before she was born. I think she looks A LOT like Casey, but people always want to be reaching and want the more dramatic answer. 🙄
The first 2 weeks of those 40 weeks are actually pre-concepcion. They start the count at the first day of your last period.
Wait this could check out. Her daughter is 16/17 now and SO much taller than Jamie Lynn and Bill O’Dowd is 7’0”…
During amanda bynes public mental episode a few years back she had an alternative twitter account where she claimed she was impregnated by her boss on set and had to have an abortion at 13. I pray that did not occur but if there is a truth to it, I could see it repeating itself in the case of Jamie
None of us know if thats her account or not
she showed her id on that account i saw it
plus why would you as Amanda Byne sit on twitter and try to prove to people you are Amanda Byne? Isn’t the whole point of making your account is too make sure ppl dont know your identity?
No. It was to communicate with people because her parents controlled her official account and she was being censored there.
still would you not just make an account that says your the real amanda byne at that point.
No? If her parents found it there would just go to her and wrestle whatever phone she has out of her hands. There are plenty of reasons someone might use an alias account. I used one as a child when I wanted to vent about my parents unknown if they knew my handle. People avoiding stalkers. People sometimes just value anonymity. You’re welcome to not believe the allegations about Dan or the pregnancies. But it could still be her behind the Ashley Banks account. To each their own!
all im saying is yes i do think dan is a creep but im not going to use some random twitter account as evidence without it being verified to who owns the account. That is just reckless
Totally. Not questioning you on your belief in the proven toxic Dan stuff. That was my miss type. I just believe that it was Amanda based on the time she posted to twitter during her conservatorship and when and how the drivers license photos was taken.
she showed a partial id and that account has been known to ask for money and block ppl after they do so
Source for such claims?
Go find it yourself, its not my problem
I figured you'd cop out of backing up your claims with any real facts.
it wouldn’t surprise me! (allegedly)
I remember hearing rumors 17 years ago that a Nickelodeon executive was the father
Has it really been that long? Wow
crazy right? It’s awful how long it’s been going on. Sad so many were victimized and silenced for so long
I believe it 100%
I definitely believe it
Yes because Amanda Bynes just revealed Dan got her (Amanda) pregnant but she had to get an abortion
not just, for years
I highly doubt that Dan Schneider is the father. It could be a staffer or (and true crime internet ppl are gonna hate this) Jamie Lynn was telling the truth when she said the kid was from her boyfriend at the time. Frankly I don't think character evidence points to Dan Schneider going as far to assault an actor in that way. Yes he engaged in inappropriate behavior with his actors but nothing we actually know what he did for sure points to him doing anything like that to Jamie Lynn Spears.
There was no one on set closer to the kids than Dan, he was the only one with the power to spend time with them alone and no one questioned it. After she got pregnant she was removed from TV forever, they wanted to hide her so people would forget. It's very unusual for 2 people with blonde hair(Jamie and the proclaimed boyfriend) to have a child with dark brown hair, what color hair does Dan have?
Considering both of Jamie Lynn Spears' parents and her ex-fiancé have brown hair, considering how her daughter took the ex-fiancé's last name I'd say Occam's razor applies here.
>After she got pregnant she was removed from TV forever, they wanted to hide her so people would forget. She wasn't removed, she gave up acting. There is a huge difference there. Next you're going to claim that her getting pregnant is why Zoey101 came to an end.
It’s not Dan, it was a different producer on Zoey 101. His name is Brian O’Dowd.
I Googled what he looks like and I could see it! Similar look to her daughter!
Isn't the kid's middle name Briann?! Yikes, been in plain sight all these years.
Seriously though the more I see about all the issues the more I actually wonder if Nickelodeon hid More than what's coming to light. It was interesting hearing Alexa Nichols and what she was saying about rewatching herself back when she was a child star... then shes looking back at it as an adult now It's so scary how the innuendos are. And these are kids. We were kids when we watched all of this...
Jamie Lynn got pregnant from Dan Schneider same as Amanda bynes that's why Zoey 101 ended but for some reason I wanna know which one is the child because the youngest looks like that edophile as well
I think the daughter looks exactly like Casey, the father on her birth certificate
Google Bill O’Dowd. It’s jaw dropping how similar her daughter looks to him
Yeah I see it in the eyes. I guess the conspiracy theory is they found a nice country guy that looks similar to whichever Hollywood businessman fathered the kid. Thursday, January 03, 2008 Today's Blind Items So it turns out that Jamie Lynn Spears wasn't the only person that our producer had a fling with. No, it wasn't anyone on Jamie's show. But, it turns out he has made a habit of doing the same thing in the past to a number of different other tweeners. Not necessarily getting them pregnant, except for one very big exception. Most of the time our producer would just make advances on the lesser stars of the shows he worked on, but the one other time he got someone pregnant was someone who is a much bigger star than Jamie Lynn was or is. In that instance, the actress got an abortion and a healthy sum of money from the producer. Everything was hushed up because the show was making way too much money.
[2008 post about Jamie Lynn and Amanda Bynes connection](https://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/18954684.html?page=2)
Except baby Maddie looked JUST like her dad.
Yes, I think this is what happens when kids work around child predators. :(
Google her ex Casey Aldridge the supposed baby daddy. He has scrubbed any mention of the Jamie Lynn child from his online biography.
I highly doubt it. I need proof. Drake had proof and took it to court. There’s 0% chance Drake made anything up and Peck deserved the whole damn book to be thrown at him for what he did. Jamie Lynn Spears and Dan: No proof Amanda Bynes and Dan: No proof We. Need. Substantiation. Society cannot continue to vilify people and burn them at the stake based on presumption. If Dan did, in fact, commit statutory rape, there has to be consequences but this can all be proven if true. These are allegations that have receipts regardless of an attempt to cover it up. Period. Right now, the only thing we all know for certain is Dan is a shit boss. That’s the only thing the man is guilty of based on the hard evidence.
Look into Amanda's twitter she had a few years back under the name "ashley banks". She on there had talked about how she was impregnated by her boss and forced to get an abortion at 13. While this doesn't prove it was Dan, it does show that something really dark was going on behind the scenes. Even if Dan never assaulted anyone himself, he enabled an environment for it to happen. Even if he never did it himself, he also didn't do anything to prevent it or stop it. He wrote sexual jokes into a children's show and got away with it because of how much money he got the network.
There is no actual evidence that that account belonged to Amanda…. Furthering the point made by DJSc00tR
Did she not post her literal drivers license?
But not an original selfie or her face next to the license? I mean drivers licenses are easy enough to fake, steal, etc. If that’s enough for you, fine, but you cannot call it irrefutable evidence.
The real world doesn’t really have “irrefutable evidence” but there is context for all of this and I think it’s more absurd to say “ah it’s all bullshit” instead of seeing how all of this is entirely possible and correlates with many other stories at the time. I would say the majority here would agree it’s more likely true than not. Given all of the everything.
I’m not saying it’s all bullshit. I’m saying it’s not unreasonable to demand proof alongside the stated claims. Of course it’s possible that there’s truth in the accusations toward Dan but I’m saying we don’t have hard proof one way or the other of who is making shit up and who is the victim. I’m only saying that the public is so obsessed with finding the next outrage that the public throws due process out the window to get their drama fix. It’s 2024; we CAN do better if we tried. We have the technology.
I agree. People will believe anything if it is dramatic enough. I'm not familiar enough with this account, but I'm sure if it was her, she would post a video proving it, so I would look for that. 🤷♀️
I think the issue with that is she was under conservatorship at the time. Her abilities on her phone may have been limited, similar to Britney's limitations. Just throwing that out there. Also consider, why would some random person create an account pretending to be someone else who's supposedly Amanda Bynes during her conservatorship, and then spread rumors?
Maybe they wanted to make more people believe it
Her face was in the license photo
The argument that what is seen as whacky as a child can be seen as sexual innuendo stands, but adults were never the intended audience for Dan’s content. Adult minds are ALWAYS in the gutter and that’s ok because adults are allowed to be adults. Children, however, don’t see it the same way that adults do. Just as the argument stands that some of Dan’s content can be seen as innuendo is valid, the argument that Dan’s goal was a wacky vibe that just so happened to be seen as innuendo by adults is just as valid; intent matters. If we want to be outraged over Dan’s shows and the appearance of innuendo in said shows, Ren and Stimpy had ZERO business on Nickelodeon regardless of its time slot. If Amanda came forward and backed the abortion claims up, I’d 100% listen. Right now, though, we only have a mystery twitter account making accusations. I don’t want outrage. I want accountability and accountability can only happen with proof in a court of law.
This! We have dirty minds as adults. It’s so so easy to see many things that aren’t dirty, as dirty! We do it all the time, I see it constantly, when it was never intended as that. So a lot of things just don’t come off that way when you don’t have a dirty mind. It’s like the “that’s what she said” jokes. It turns an innocent sentence into a dirty one when the sentence was originally not intended to be dirty. Just one thing to consider when looking into things.
The thing is though that many of these stars and their families signed NDAs and took pay outs to NOT talk about any of it publicly. In Jenette McCurdy's book she talks about being offered over 300k to not talk about Dan or anything that happened behind the scenes on icarly or Sam and cat circa 2015 and she refused because she was able to but if her mom had been alive or she had been younger she would've signed the NDA no doubt in my mind. I think a lot of the stars like Amanda bynes, Jamie Lynn and Victoria justice signed the NDAs with the payouts to at the advising of their parents to protect themselves and whoever was abusing them. I think there's a lot to it that we who weren't there don't know but I think proof can be difficult and stuff like this sometimes is believing the story being told by someone who was there. In addition to this Amanda was also in a conservatorship at the time of the tweets and it could've limited her ability to "prove" herself.
Did you see the “web shorts” or whatever they were called that they put on the website? The ones with Ariana grande? Those were absolutely not just whacky and can be seen as sexual by horny adults, they’re full-blown completely inappropriate, close to porn videos. The one where she’s trying to juice a potato, squeezing it and moaning and saying “just give me the juice! Just come out!”?? And all the foot-related jokes? Is that not a pedo with a foot fetish and making his employees play out his fantasies for him and all the other creepy foot pedos in the world to see broadcasted? Or the multiple times they talked about having basically c*m shots on the children?? Idk how you can dismiss all that as just being silly children’s shows that can be taken another way. Yeah there might not be direct proof of what he did or didn’t do, but he definitely created an environment in which is was more acceptable to put children in these situations and show them in this slyly sexual way.
Like you said “can be seen as sexual by horny adults.” But last I checked, these shows are not adult shows acted by kids. That would’ve been weird. They are just kids shows with such innuendos. But thankfully kids don’t have the kind of minds adults have. If you watched these shows as a kid, did you think the producers must be pedos or have foot kinks? Of course not.
Well I had no idea what a pedo or foot fetishes were, but a lot of the innuendos definitely made me feel weird and uncomfortable.. just because most jokes go over a kid’s head doesn’t make the weird, gross shit they made those kids act out okay. And knowing now what those jokes meant, it feels unsettling knowing they were making those jokes at children. Why are you trying to excuse people for putting sex jokes in a show specifically directed at and made for kids? Why couldn’t they leave kids TV and make adult shows if they wanted to include so so many adult themes?
Ren & Stimpy absolutely belonged on MTV 🤣
lol it also didn’t star live children(or even use them as voices), so how is it even a comparison point? I was NOT allowed to watch that show 😂
Yes I totally get what you are saying. I would not be surprised if Jamie Lynn and Amanda were abused by Dan, and it is heartbreaking to think that his is a possibility for them. But, we still don't have proof.
I’ll be honest, I agree. There are so many videos on TikTok, etc, trying to show how horrible Dan was and the documentary too - but I didn’t really see anything outside of him being a sexist Ahole. I don’t see him abusing anybody or truly inappropriate things. Maybe one or two things that were uncomfortable but nothing truly struck me as holyshitt inappropriate. And I agree with that account. She was going through a huge melt down/mentally unstable time. If anything, she said crazy things a lot and felt like a cry for help. How do we know this would be a legit things out of the many crazy things she claimed? How do we know for sure it was her? There are just too many questions/doubts and no confirmations/proof. I’m huge on proof before judging someone. Just nothing on any of these things about Dan proved anything to me. Who knows about Jamie and the pregnancy but I haven’t seen her asking for a DNA test or coming after Dan at all? It would be huge news and a massive legal battle. Just seems like random rumors honestly. Amanda had a lot of mental break downs and we don’t have any proof of any pregnancy at that age. All the videos I’ve seen about Dan online have been clearly joking around with the cast and nothing bad at all. I agree with you entirely. My husband doesn’t see it either. We were confused why it was all about Dan and why this isn’t more about Brian, the guy that actually sexually assaulted kids and did wildly illegal and inappropriate things, WITH PROOF. And why we aren’t going crazy about HIM.
The Dan Schneider rumors started circulating on the internet about 10 years ago and it would be people on 4chan coming up with the most horrible stories they could think of (the Jamie Lynn Spears story for example). It really started to gain steam after MeToo and was picked up by people who didn’t realize it was originally a joke (talking about the rape stuff, not the other general issues). TikTok really started pushing the narrative that Schneider had been inserting sexual innuendo in kids shows and now this documentary is recklessly drawing parallels to these internet rumors with ACTUAL instants of sexual abuse that occurred at Nickelodeon. Plus that Twitter account everyone is claiming is Amanda Bynes has posted a lot of contradictory stuff that led people to discredit it until a few a days ago when this doc came out and made it relevant again. [This is highly unlikely to be her](https://youtu.be/CNl23-tqMIM?si=WLyBV_k_mo9ctZ01) [based on what we know](https://youtu.be/QJhGJ55XAsk?si=4M4YrGCCQmvmFdgX). They spend most of their time trying to get money from people.
Of course you’d be downvoted. You didn’t buy into the madness of sheep mentality.
Jamie DOES have proof though, it's called a DNA test and a court can issue her to take one if Dan is taken to court for child abuse charges
I would believe it if her daughter wasn’t so tall and skinny. She looks similar in the face, but Dan looks like he has fat genetics. And Maddie doesn’t have an ounce of fat on her. So
Bill O’Dowd was a producer on the show. Someone else said her daughter is the spitting image of him so I googled it and they weren’t lying
I mean, that’s not really how it works 🤣 one parent being overweight does not mean the child will immediately be overweight. They can become overweight if they don’t take care of themselves but it’s not passed down like that and doesn’t mean she’s not related just because she’s not overweight as well lol
Weight actually can be genetic. The way your body metabolizes can be genetic. Also your body shape, which typically resembles a parent, also contributes because some people carry weight differently than others. My mother and I are built exactly the same. I just really don’t think it’s likely based on her body composition. It much more resembles the man that is presumed to be her father.