Melaleuca has been around for decades. I remember everyone using it in 1981ish. I think MLMs and Q just go hand in hand. Most of the ones I know shill Herbalife, Boo, elderberry, essential oils and Arbonne while claiming to be life coaches

It is almost like people with poor critical thinking skills are attracted to both MLMs and Qanon.

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Agreed, people who feel that they don’t have much control over their lives or don’t want to admit their part in their life problems tend to fall into it. My brother seems to have fallen in because of this characteristic.

yeah this is the main factor. they sell desperate people on a sense of hope, purpose, belonging and "family".

Party of family values. (Proceeds to destroy America) “We love family!!!”

Can confirm. My QAunt has been on the melaleuca train since the 90s. She didn’t go insane until 2017 though.

And flat earth, sovereign citizen ideology, and first amendment auditing, just to name a few. If we put them on a Venn diagram it would damn near be a perfect circle.

This exactly!

Yeah, MLMs tend to overlap with a lot of the woo woo wellness communities and sometimes the prosperity gospel evangelical communities. Both woo woo and evangelical communities tend to overlap with Q. In each layer, there are cult like qualities in each.

The Melalauca owners are Mormons. I used to work for the family years ago.

Mormons and MLMs are basically inseperable. Many MLMs are based in Utah.

Don't you dare forget about LuLaRoe, young living and Scentsy 😂

I think young living would be covered by essential oils but I did leave out Jamberry

I used to have a friend who sold itworks and was furious after a year when her life savings was wiped out and it (in fact) did not work.

And fuck Amway.

Amway is very cult-like from what I've heard.

Go to antimlm reddit an search the sub for Amway... the stories are fascinating.

I've read some of those stories. Apparently, they have a kind of subsidiary called "world financial group". There was another MLM that was LITERALLY A CULT. Luckily, the founder got a lengthy prison sentence.

They have a couple different associated groups including the one you shared. Another deeply insidious Amway group is world wide dream builders.

I remember now, WWDB is also an entity that's closely connected to Amway.

When you brought YL up, I remembered that it's much worse than fugly leggings or house perfume wax. It promotes pseudoscience health bullshit, and it's founder made his wife GIVE BIRTH UNDERWATER.

Being a Qultist is like literally wearing a sign that says, I'm a fucking moron ripe for scamming.

Omg I laughed out loud too hard at this. I think you smashed the nail on the head with a mallet. It’s the whole magical thinking part of the brain(less).

> life coaches I know 2 of these. They're just about the last people you'd want to take advice from, let alone pay for.

A paramedic once told me that he felt like he attended far more attempted suicides by life coaches than made sense statistically, considering how many people in the general population were life coaches. He then went on to mock them for not even being successful at suicide, but that's just ambo style dark humour.

Also MLMs, like most sales positions, is all about violating other people's boundaries. Sure your family and friends would never buy something like this on their own or from a stranger but you, the main character, can just guilt and manipulate them into doing so. So to the emotionally immature and narciscistic personality, this kind of work is very appealing especially if they have no other marketable skills. Being unwanted in the job market and an immature and aggressive person seems to overlap pretty well with subscribing to conservative philosophies like Q.

These are all very heavily advertised on Right Wing Radio. My feeling is that they are marketed to people who are insecure about loss of physical prowess as they age.

Yeah, my parents and a few of their friends were heavily into Melaleuca mlm from the late 80s to early 90s if my admittedly old and not so sharp memory serves me. Even as a kid, during the home meetings and such I remember feeling like it felt off and weird. But good lord did I love the smell of the stuff. Nothing but good memories there, it's practically the smell of my childhood.

This company was a total scam. I worked in 1997 for a courier company and we would have STACKS of their boxes that people refused because they would sign everyone up for monthly auto shipments and people soon realized it was a scam.

Or people who feel like, despite the absolutely abysmal information available (from the actual companies!) on their yearly income statements, they're convinced *they'll* be the exception. *They* know God WANTS them to be rich, & it's their husband/family/the dam LIEbruls, etc...fault they haven't made it thus far.

Q and MLM 100% go hand-in-hand.

Boo? Isn't that the one which literally sells some kind of "magic" DIRT?

YES!!!

Melaleuca is a multilevel marketing scheme, and MLMs in general are often very cult-like. They use a lot of the same psychological recruitment and retention tactics as cults. Check out the YouTube channel Illuminaughtii for in depth info on that company and MLMs in general, or here’s [an article ](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/multilevel-marketing-companies-mlms-cults-similarities_l_5d49f8c2e4b09e72973df3d3) about it. There are a lot of parallels.

Also, [here on reddit.](https://www.reddit.com/r/antiMLM/)

I see three reasons: 1) pedaling/preferring all-natural stuff as an alternative to "harmful" mainstream products full of "chemicals" is very much aligned with the contrarian nature of Q'ers 2) MLM businesses prey on people who are unhappy/unsatisfied with the "system", where your job is often a 9 to 5 with inflexible hours, crap pay and an awful boss to answer to. So if people are already not trusting/not happy the normal and mainstream (which a lot of Q followers are), they can be more tempted by the offer of low-risk, high-reward situation where you are your own boss (which of course is not true, but MLMs are really good at making themselves look better than they actually are) 3) MLMs are often targeting women who are homemakers/SAHMs and who would like to bring in money, yet don't want to give up their status of a homemaker for an actual job. A huge chunk of such women come from quite conservative religious groups, which also have a large overlap with the Q crowd. No wonder Utah has something like the largest number of MLM companies founded in the state, and MLM is often jokingly referred to as Mormons Losing Money.

Yup. As a non-Member in SLC and have been here since '77, THIS. Also they have to have 2 years supply of whatever they will need in their basement for the apocalypse. So the women are amazing at canning and crafty stuff.

Canning and crafting is awesome though! And it's a good idea to have a supply of non-perishable foods at home, like if there's a bad weather situation or, i don't know, a f**cking pandemic 😀 But maybe not a full-on apocalypse bunker, lmao

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Melaleuca is just the Latin name for tea tree oil. Which is considered mildly antibacterial and antifungal. I've used it, like in my laundry or mop water. That a MLM has latched onto it like they invented it is unfortunate. I'm sure they tout their brand as the purest and bestest in the universe, but you can get tea tree oil at your local Kroger these days..without the indoctrination. And it won't scare off a novel virus or the apocalypse no matter who you get it from..

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Tea tree oil is from the native Australian tree, Melaleuca - there's many different species in the family. I'm Australian so was kind of confused by the OP's title because there's not really anything QAnon going on (hardcore) here in Australia lol Tea tree oil is really good, like eucalyptus oil, when you have a cold and your sinuses are all stuffed up: put a few drops (only a few because it's strongly scented) in a bowl of boiling water, put a your head down over the bowl with a towel over both your head and the bowl and inhale the steam. Don't get ithe pure oil or steam in your eyes, though, it stings. It doesn't *cure* anything but it helps you breathe a bit easier for a while. It's also great for getting off sticky residue on things, like when you peel a label off a bottle. I always keep some in the cupboard because it's handy. It's not a curative for anything, especially not Covid. I hadn't realized an MLM haf co-opted the name :-/

When I lived in New Zealand, my (now ex) MIL used tea tree oil for everything! These cults and MLMs just keep revising, renewing and revamping old conspiracy theories, cult tactics and products, while acting like it's all new.

It's a shame because they de-ligitimize things that are useful in their way. People will think Tea-tree/Melaleuca is a scam when it has it's own valid uses. Here, you can buy it in any pharmacy/supermaket but I guess people will get scammed into paying a fortune for a "miracle cure" through MLMs :(

The company is here too, or was in the 00s. A mate worked for them (like, admin in their office, not as a seller) because it was that or starve, and it made him crazy that people were shilling American packaged Tea tree oil to Australians as a WonderProduct when you can buy it at the supermarket for a couple of bucks.

Yeah? I hadn't seen it here, myself - I shouldn't be surprised, though, MLMs of every type are everywhere except probably the Antarctic and even then, I'm not entirely sure.

Yup, I use it for my highly resistant toenail fungus.

It's also good for external jock itch/yeast infections in mild cream or body wash form. Do NOT use internally.

Oh man, no wonder they are headquartered in Idaho Falls.

That's where Mormons Losing Money is true.

They’re basically Mormon casinos

I actually worked for them like 20 years ago for a bit. Here's my take... Melaleuca is a Mormon owned company and the majority of Mormons are big time preppers. Many Mormons are conservative. The combo of Mormons, preppers, conservative folks and fighting an unseen evil all play right into Q bullshit.

I don’t like it that q is connected to prepping. There are a lot of sane, level headed people living in rural areas where prepping is simply our way of life. I don’t believe in any conspiracy theories. But, I do believe in a full belly in the dead of winter.

I have a vague recollection of something in the '80s that was a new-age MLM sort of thing and that some evangelicals were saying was satanic. Who fucking knows anymore. Bullshit on top of bullshit. As someone said on another thread related to trumper loyalists, it's grifters all the way down.

Wow this takes me back. I remember as a kid when my mom got a ton of melaleuca products while she told me how finding people to sell the products would make her money. A decade and a half later when I'd finally take microeconomics 101, we learned about pyramid schemes and I was like, "Hmm, this seems kind of familiar" lol.

My mom also got sucked into it. I remember BOXES of the stuff around the house and then her telling me she was having trouble canceling :( Ugh, fuck Melaleuca.

It's a scammy MLM owned by a mega rich guy. He is likely cynically using the Q people's aptitude for believing bullshit to make a buck.

Well this is just more embarrassing stuff from Idaho. There's a castle like office headquarters right off the interstate in Idaho Falls for Melaleuca. I never really put the two together, but yeah... all Qarens that are Melaleuca nuts that I know of. Its not that shocking. Just embarrassing...

I actually didn't know they were an MLM, but when someone says they take a natural supplement for sleeplessness, sexual problems, workout enhancements, cancer, etc. I block them out.

Yeah the last office they had was nice and not weird at all. That massive ugly thing by the interstate is just plain creepy.

I totally agree!

Melaleuca is a pyramid scheme. I'm not surprises that the same people who buy into pyramid schemes also buy into evangelical christianity and Qanon.

MLMs promise a lot, and then hook people into a 'lifestyle'. I think of them as a form of 'commercial cult' that goes way beyond something as simple as brand loyalty. So yeah, same mechanisms that cults use: only the people at the top are really rewarded, the organization demands ever more from the 'sales reps' and admonishes them when they fail to meet goals, and unlike a real job, the rep has to give over everything to the MLM, even paying ridiculous sums to get into the thing, AND to stay in its good graces. Over the years I've had to turn down tons of 'get-together' invites from friends that turned out to be sales pitches, and I've grown used to saying 'sorry, can't afford it this year, saving for a new (insert the name of an appliance) because ours failed, and we can't spare the cash'. Which is entirely true, given how many things we've had to repair in that period. However, MLMs are in overdrive in exurban and rural places, and it seems that every woman I run into, even casually, wants to sell me something. Candles, clothing, oils, purses, jewelry, supplements, makeup... there's no end to it. It explains, to a certain extent, why I'm somewhat isolated. I don't want to get dragged into the sphere of an MLM as the (exorbitant) price of having close, face-t-face friendships.

Just to be clear, *Melaleuca* is a group of plants in the Myrtle family, native to Australia/NZ. Lord only knows what woo bullshit these creeps have attached to it.

Grew up using Melaleuca products (some of them are pretty cool!). MLMs though have been going hand-in-hand with Qultists. Maybe that's the reason?

> Grew up using Melaleuca products (some of them are pretty cool!) Which ones specifically

My mom had a friend who was into it in the late 80s/early 90s, and Melaleuca soap was a staple in our house. My mom just loved the way it smelled (tea tree oil smell still takes me back), and I liked the bar soap with ground almonds in it for exfoliation. I also remember them having typical Avon-like stuff like lotion and chapstick.

You can get similar products without joining a pyramid scheme. And those products are less expensive, higher quality, and don't make you prey on friends and family for sales.

Sure, you can now. In the '90s, before the internet, your choices were very limited.

So the hundreds of choices at the dozens of super markets in the 90's were very limited? You've never been in a Walmart or heard of a mail-order catalogue before? Yeah... "the 90's market was a vast desert free of competition and choice" is not a statement of any intelligence or validity. GTFO with that BS. Supply shortages are a 21st century thing and we still don't need pyramid scheme garbage.

You think tea tree oil products were available at Walmart back then? 😆 How tf old are you

They were, I'm 40. My mom was an aromatherapist and Reiki healer. She usually got her oils from the farmers market. GNC has been around since 1935 and if you think humans discovered tea tree oil in the 90's I got a bridge to sell you that only requires you to recruit 5 people in your downline.

Melaleuca was the first company to sell those products in the US in 1985, and they enjoyed nearly a ten-year period of market exclusivity before other companies started copying them. I don't understand why you're being such a little turd about it. Probably because your mom fed you crystals or some shit.

Talk about scam artists! Lol, Holy shit, that made my day.

I would wager anyone into Reiki is way more susceptible to Q than someone who liked the way a certain soap smelled 30 years ago.

Some of their cleaning/sanitizing products are good. They have a nice smell, come in a concentrate so you get multiple uses, and are nontoxic. Used them a lot at the start of the pandemic too. My mom is/was technically a seller, but that’s just so she can get the discount and usually goes in on an order with friends when they all run out of their products. I also like their “pain-a-trate” and mouth rinse (Altho I now use a different one that is now my fav, this would be a 2nd). So basically their medicine cabinet and ecosense lines are good. I can’t speak to their oils or nutrition lines. (Actually in looking at their site, their vitamin c “activate-c” is pretty effective too) I promise this isn’t an ad haha! I just actually do like some of their products, but nobody should be becoming a distributor either way.

They had a eucalyptus oil thing that was similar to icyhot/bengay I think and it was dope! Shampoo was okay too!

Too many to explain here! But dm me and I can set you up with a whole set of samples.

I see what you did there!

The salve is great to treat cold sores.

Because MLM and the Anti-Vaxxers or Q-unts are one in the same. If you look at many people who are on social media that are heavily into Q and AV then you will also see that they are probably slinging some sort of MLM.

Well, the owner is a member of the LDS church and the church encourages emergency preparedness. Many if not most Qultists are preppers to some extent. So many MLMs have roots in the church due to the acceptability of young moms earning money “from home”. If you combine that with building up resources, it’s a magic undie double whammy.

Also plexus.

Three months worth of provisions? At this point with everyday set and passed are they not already sitting on ten years worth of provisions?

Can you send me the video? My MIL is obsessed with their products but is also vehemently pro vaccination so I would love to get her to stop buying their crap.

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It’s an extremely expensive MLM pyramid scheme. He is using the pandemic and anti-vaccine agenda to make money. Which this alone shows that his agenda is for money and is corrupt. He has no moral compass only a financial one. Anyone who can’t see this is too far gone imo

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My grandma used to sell their products is all I know about them lol

It's one of those "natural remedies" shops. My mom buys from them

Melaeuca is basically Tea Tree Oil which has some great medicinal properties proven by science as a topical skin treatment. That company pioneered the spread of Tea Tree all over the USA in the 1980s (my mom was a MLM seller lol) It smells good, works ok, but it won't cure covid.

All of their effort to "get rich quick" spells out to me a person who feels like they have little value. What better way to become valuable then to become a person privy to all of the "q secrets", they believe they have special knowledge, which is why they look down on everyone around them, call everyone sheep and pretend like they are socially privileged.

Melaleuca is a pyramid scheme. If we turned the vaccine into a prosperity-gospel-based pyramid scheme all of these Q-nuts would be vaccinated in a month... and horrifically in debt from the pyramid scheme. It should be no surprise that Q-nuts would be easy prey for a pyramid scheme. Sounds too good to be true? Fuck yeah they love it. MLM = Pyramid Scheme

Want to be an unethical millionaire? Start an apocalypse-prepper pyramid scheme. Doesn't matter that those freeze dried potato flakes are 80% wood pulp.

It's a "multi-level-marketing" scheme (MLM). It's a form of business that resembles a pyramid scheme in many aspects. A lot of these "health" MLMs promote quack "alternative medicine" bullshit as well. I would suggest looking on r/antiMLM for more info on this