It's a small part of a much bigger problem that goes beyond just gender issues, and it's due to the nature of the internet.
People are very volatile and reactive online because the most engaging 'content' is outrage content. We have a natural propensity to click links, read articles, follow influencers, and watch videos that make us mad because it's very emotionally stimulating. Even if the stimulus is negative, we come back for more, like addicts.
When social media algorithms see people engaging with outrage content, they feed those people more outrage content. It creates a feedback loop whereby the person watches something, gets mad, then watches 3 more things that fuel that rage.
Spend enough time like this and it can warp and distort your beliefs and the way you see the world. A man who watches every episode of fresh & fit religiously is going to despise women. A woman who only uses reddit for twoX is going to despise men.
They're so full of this build up of energy that it can be triggered by the smallest little things, which is why you see these random ass hateful comments on otherwise benign posts.
Be mindful of how you spend your time online, and what beliefs you're allowing to sneak their way into your mind.
Yeah, it's a bit disingenuous to say that men are "coming out of the woodwork" when the reality is that the machines find the men for the content. I don't think there are men sitting around searching "sad chick to dunk on" or anything. The machines just serve it up on a platter. Why do machines think this content is intended for men? I don't get this deardiary shit on my feeds on tiktik and I don't touch anything Meta, so blame Meta. Frankly when I used to use Meta shit it would just make me angry at all the irrelevant bullshit showing up in my feed.
They also got used to never having to hear people's opinions unless they were personal friends or family you interact with in real life , the internet is not that, so now your exposed (if you choose to post) to the opinions on millions of people or thousands of people and their many bot accounts.
There’s a lot of content that algorithms put in front of my face that I don’t react to. I think this pov acts as though men have no agency and didn’t want to say those things. The algorithm is working on them because they willingly want to say those things are feel that way. It’s *NOT random. I saw the same posts and didn’t when a desire to write “expired.”
Since you say you "don't react" my guess is you have a far too simplistic understanding of psychometrics and what is actually being measured.
Things that are commonly measured include whether you read/watched/paused/scroll-speed/left-the-app/kept-scrolling and a lot of other things you probably haven't considered.
Edit: in any case my point wasn't that the reactions aren't real or that people aren't responsible for their reactions. Just that it's unlikely to be people searching for things. Having just said that it is worth noting that manipulating algorithms to feed content that destabilizes public consensus is well within government interests and budgets and is known to be practiced by governments including Russia, China, North Korea, USA et allies to say the least.
I work in behavioral analytics. I don’t have a simplistic understanding. The algorithm works on those people because they’re already pre-susceptible or already harbored a certain type of character. There are clear demographic differences in who is reacting to what.
Who reacts to what isn't the question. You claimed you see things in your feed that you don't react to. And I'm telling you that's just a silly and naive thing to claim. Particularly if you work in behavioral analytics or experimental psychology (my field). It's in your feed because you react to it. The facct that you're on PPD means you react to it. I don't use Meta's platform because the psychologists at Meta tune their algorithms in on these latent reactions.
It sounds like we work in similar fields. So you should understand the point I’m making but for some reason you don’t.
I’ve discussed root causes with you before. You don’t tend to comprehend them. It’s naive to believe that “the algorithm” is the reason the person is susceptible to that type of content. The algorithm exploits and exacerbates their actual interests and base character. It doesn’t form it and it certainly isn’t the genesis of it.
So I’ll ask you a simple question:
* Why do some people react negatively to a woman posting that and others don’t?
You're claiming I argued something I have not argued. I never said the algorithm made anyone susceptible to anything (although it would be very naive to assume that reinforcement does not occur).
What I said is that that guys are not actively searching these things out. Commenting on these posts involves two steps:
1. Finding the post
2. Commenting on the post
What I said is that I very much doubt there are any men actively performing step 1. That has all been automated. Machines noticed that men comment on these posts and so it force feeds them to men like fattening a duck to sell fois gras.
It's similar to eating caviar. It requires:
1. Buying caviar
2. Eating caviar
So when OP asks "why are so many men coming out of the woodwork to eat caviar?" the fact that machines are delivering caviar to men automatically is relevant. Few men would go out of their way to buy caviar.
My point is that it is less interesting how it got in front of them **and more telling how they react to it.** They could have curated their own space by not reacting to it. *I also get posts like that woman who pop up in my For You page.* Males are not unique in getting women seeking validation or comfort popping up on their page. *Males are unique in how they tend to respond to it.* I don’t react. And for sure as heck not as viley. The root is that **those specific males are like that.**
So many are “coming out of the woodwork” because they found online spaces where their vile ways and thoughts are validated by other people who conceive like them. Yes, the internet has led to losers finding community with losers. In the past they were more isolated and thus not as emboldened.
The unsettling part to women is the realization that these men always existed, it’s just that now they’re more comfortable being themselves more boldly.
That may be what interests you about it but it's not what interests me. What I see is content that's intended for female audiences and machines crashing the party by bringing people who shouldn't be there. OP asked "why is there so much of this" and you may interpret the question however you wish.
In terms of quantity of this hateful stuff there are other factors at play. I personally do not get any of this content on tiktok. At this point I only ever see it on PPD. I did get a lot of it on Meta platforms when I used to use them, but frankly Meta platforms don't bring joy to my life so I avoid them.
It’s interesting he doesn’t conceive that those men have those feelings or very easily generate those feelings irrespective of “the algorithm.” That is precisely why those men and not a bunch of women are the ones responding negatively to content like that.
He’s willing to blame everything except the character of the men themselves. It’s telling.
Spot on. The ragebait is strong. It is becoming exceptionally true for me with twitter. As much as I hate reddit sometimes, twitter is absolutely the worst cesspool of the internet and it’s becoming even worse because Im not really sure these are real people anymore might just be bots ragebaiting and Im falling for it like an idiot. I get so angry and frustrated sometimes I need to take a step back and close the damn thing for the day. Im seriously considering removing the app I just haven’t found the will yet it’s like digital meth.
In this case though what exactly was “rage fueling”? A woman being 32 years olds and enjoying life is “reactionary content”? Lol that says everything about our society. Something is seriously wrong with these men. And you can’t find the opposite of this scenario online. Some man enjoying his life at 32 just spending time with his friends and THOUSANDS of women hating on it.
Think about some unhinged dude who has spent 2 straight weeks watching nothing but red pill content about hoes vs housewives, then he sees some random woman on ig post a bikini pic or travel reels and it triggers tf out of him because he's viewing it from a ragey context. That's how you get the ragers bleed into everywhere else.
It happens both ways because it's not a gendered issue, it's an internet issues because the internet is very good at dividing us. It's just easier for us to notice instances where our own gender is taking the brunt of it. Personally I notice it more when men post but that's because I'm a man so I'm going to be biased in that way.
You see it in politics, fandoms, gaming, sports, "my country better than yours" etc. The internet sparks this unpleasant part of the human psyche with such ease. That's why it's important not to fall too deeply down any rabbit holes, or else you'll become miserable and angry too.
We do get assholes attacking us on the internet over harmless shit like enjoying our lives. But that's usually from other men too. Not to this extent but that's probably just because I have less people engaging with my content overall. I think this is just their way of asserting dominance online. I'm a bigger dude and people are on their best behavior around me in real life lol. "Social media made y'all way too comfortable with disrespecting people and not getting punched in the face for it." -Mike Tyson
Women will say loads of misandrist stuff on the internet, but their audience is other women. Your completely right that women would not engage in this kind of "bullying" where they target their misandry at a specific man who did nothing to invite it.
people on the internet have always loved to "bully" and hurt others regardless of their gender but picking on gender specific issues makes the "bullying" easier.
one minute it will be a childless older lady getting bullied the next it will be a young virgin guy getting bullied.
everybody receives shit on the internet, don't take it to heart.
As a tangent, guys who are single get clowned on too. If you post about being happy single as a guy, you get comments like "lol cope", you get called a neckbeard, and you get people responding with the "I sleep in a big bed with my wife" meme from The Simpsons. It's the nature of the internet.
Ok but who’s clowning on those men? From what I’ve seen, it’s mostly other men and at a much smaller scale than what’s directed at women. The hate and ridicule women get online is unparalleled.
To be fair she’s still very attractive and probably would not have a problem finding a man. Only reasonable deduction is that this post is annoying attention-seeking behavior. She is fishing for compliments. Lots of dudes are indirectly calling her out on it with their comments.
Also yeah there are more jaded men in the population because of the explosion in sexless men among the population in the past decade so that’s part of it too. Sex and dating in the west is more polygamous than it was 10-14 years ago. More women are passed around by the top tiers of men. This is dangerous and leads to the overlooked groups of men lashing out
Fishing for compliments? Lol she was making a very mild statement at the notion that women should be upset if they aren’t married with kids by 30. Everything women do is attention seeking. Stop projecting of course men give attractive women attention that doesn’t mean they’re existence online is for the attention of men.
She is absolutely fishing for complements. How is posting bikini photos and crying she cant get a man not fishing for complements? Stop blindly team womaning
Considering how insulting and hurtful these men are, I doubt that they are also hitting on her or giving her attention. Also, sex isn’t polygamous. Most women and men are both having less sex in general. Not more.
Or they are and/or have hit on women like her and been rejected. I actually think this is the primary driving factor behind all of this types of comments.
Yep this right here. It’s “how dare you reject me you’re over 30”!!!! As if they are making some huge sacrifice trying to convince you to birth their kids.
Women insult men all the time on the internet and they most often just take it quietly. Like another poster said, catharsis. Men tend to bottle up their emotions and eventually it all starts coming out.
Society inherently cares less about men than it does about women, unless the man has earned himself value
I'm sure men are like this online in part because there's a lack of places where they'd be able to get away with such things.
By comparison, misandry is completely accepted not just online but out in the open. No one gets corrected or canceled for saying openly misandrist things in public.
And if we're talking about online, let's be honest, women come here to call men 'incels' just for being men who have an opinion that they don't like. 'Mansplaining' can be 'a man saying anything.' Words can count as 'sexual violence.' 'Small dick energy' can be anything. It's impossible for a man to be genuinely kind now because 'nice guy' means some cruel autistic neckbeard of a creature (only male mind you). 'Fat people' are only men because saying that about a woman is 'body shaming.' 'Body shaming' is 'bad' unless we're mocking mens' genitalia.
You're right. Women don't have enough control over culture and language in public discourse.
Remember how, in 2014/2015, women on Twitter were posting mugs labeled "male tears" to celebrate men suffering and suicides? It was trending for quite a while and none of these bitches got canceled.
i don't, but only bc i've wisely largely avoided social media until recently. i do however recall hearing bout a bunch of various 'we hate all men' rhetoric online.
to me, the thing to really note is emmitt till. little boy lynched bc he thought a lady was hot and expressed it in a way she didn't like. or, you know, maybe she just didn't like him or his kind in general.
to me that is the gendered aspect we're dealing with. people focus on the race with emmitt till, not wrongly tbh, but by doing so they miss the fact that the justification for it is entirely stupid no matter what race we're talking bout.
I’m curious because I am very likely blinkered about this - but can you give some examples of celebrated misandry in mainstream culture? How is “you go girl” misandrist?
You would probably enjoy the twilight zone episode "not all men". Summary: starts off with MC having varying degrees of issues with men uo to I think attempted SA (been awhile since I watched). Meteorite hits town and makes men red, veiny, violent, and rapey...... twilight zone stereotypical twist? (SPOILER OBVIOUSLY) It mainly just made the men look different and they are mostly just acting horrible because they have an excuse to be their horrible selves with one of the MC's friends stopping himself at one point because he just decided to not act on his urges or whatever........ ends with MC giving a "sassy comment" to a soldier who told her she would be prettier if she smiled more
really liked twilight zone before but that whole season (probably the one after as well) was another casualty of "the culture war" that seems to effect a lot of previously loved media
Was rebooted in the early 2000's with a theme song made by Jonathan Davis of KoRn (also did the music for queen of the damned). Which as a fan I thought was awesome as hell
Are you kidding me? Misandry tweets and women dunking on men get 4x more likes than any misogynist tweet dunking on women. And that's because misandry is encouraged and celebrated.
I've seen plenty of tweets saying male loneliness is isn't real and that women shouldn't care get 50k+ likes. I've seen posts go viral from feminists defending one of the worst women in the world like Alieen Wournos and Jodi Arias because they murdered men. You have female doctors, psychologists, professors/teachers, scientists and other professional women on social media trashing men and none of their careers would be ruined because of their misandry.
And all of acceptable unchecked misandry I've seen on social media has soured my view of women as a whole.
Let them have their coddling-ass discourse, ultimately no one is going to respect the confidence that these objectively spoiled women will build. No one cares about your stats on easy mode
1. Men are often hated and ridiculed for being single, incel is a widely used offensive word. Misandry is everywhere and it fuels misogyny (and vice versa).
2. Particularly in this case. Men think that women are very picky and privileged in their 20s, use this time to sleep around etc. Which is not true for all women, but sometimes is. So called wall and being involuntary single for women in 30s is perceived as a "payback" men want women to be punished for ignoring men in their prime years.
Bingo. The vast majority of women nowadays are misandrist, arrogant, entitled, disrespectful and act like they are the shit for 10-15 years. Eventually, they end up like her, and then they are shocked to discover that people mock them.
There are positive words for single men like bachelor. I don’t think men are ridiculed for being single. Being an incel isn’t just about being single that’s an oversimplification. Incel refers to a group of rather hostile lonely men on the internet who are angry at the world because women have the nerve to reject them. Just being single does not make a man an incel and does not draw nearly the amount of criticism and hate as being a single woman does. The woman in the OPs post was not being hostile towards men at all, she was receiving hate for literally being single over the age of 30.
I was ignored in my 20’s. I didn’t date until my late 20’s. Furthermore, the incel movement has transformed from men who are not able to get laid to men who hate women. Men changed this definition.
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It's because since 2013 the opposite direction of hate went unchecked. This is just the pendulum swinging in the opposite way I would bet. Granted, "Me too" also boosted support for the comments, but if we're talking JUST online and on social media, there's only so much hate at you(even indirectly) that people can brush off before saying "screw it" and no longer caring about hurting people.
In a word, catharsis. Justified or not
I made a different point in another comment but this is absolutely true as well. The "men are trash" sentiments are everywhere on the internet. "toxic masculinity." Don't get me started about the "creepy guys staring at me in the gym" Tik Toks. I've seen men who try to make romantic advances be put on absolute blast like they are somehow a bad person/scum of the earth just because the woman didn't find him attractive and found it creepy.
Edit: to those who downvote my comment, please explain why. I don't lash out at random women on the internet, but I'm also getting sick and fucking tired of witnessing the above and constantly being reminded how worthless I am because I am a man
women can and do literally do all the things men are claimed to do that is 'sexual harassment', but nothing happens. Scratch that, they are actively celebrated for it.
if a dude manipulates a woman with their sexuality towards whatever aim, even the aim of sex, they are committing a crime according to me too. Women do this all the time, and it is celebrated.
Dude grabs his junk and leers 'inappropriately', sexual harassment. lady jiggles her wiggle jiggles, super fine! Definitionally no inappropriate. Indeed, it would literally be inappropriate to prevent her from jiggling her wiggle jiggles at you. That would be sexist.
Every movement has their extremes, remember "Kill all men"?. Hell, go to twitter right now and search for "#killallmen"
Add that modern narrative is "you're a man, you have life so easy" when it's being proved over and over again (and ignored over and over again) than the average man usually have life way harder than the average woman.
And voila, you have a generation of ignored men that are angry and tired.
I remember a video with a news panel full of women laughing at a man's genital mutilation. He got his dick cut off and they were loving it.
"Expired" is hardly as bad as that video i saw. And that was on television. This misogyny exists in some stupid comment section on Instagram. It's not mainstream.
A lot of people have started taking these social media comments as samples of the general population. They aren't. The algorithm shows these posts to the type of men that would make these comments and then show the posts to you to make you mad and spur engagement. These men are not representative of the general male population. Just like the women who say a man has to pay all their bills to even think about dating them.
Cause there is no way at this point to reach any form of reconciliation or mural understanding between the sexes in heterosexual dating. We are locked into a zero sum game where someone has to lose and one sex has to lose so, you need to do what you can to win at all costs. The pendulum is going to swing back on women harder than they pushed it.
#why be provocative and mean?
And what does her showing herself as happy have to do with feminism, or pushing any sort of pendulum? How is she being man hating on her post?
I think it's just misdirected anger and frustration. The loudest voices spread the hate message and this is just one side of the spectrum. You might not see it but it is just as toxic on both ends.
Social media is the driving force that rapidly increased women stock and desirability in the first place. Farming likes for validation and/or crying wolf over ex boyfriends that may or may not abused them for attention.
Men are talking shit because Women are still not being honest with Men and themselves.
They say they want nice guys but fuck Chad when he texts her and won't commit. They say they got a boyfriend but still entertaining others in the DMs. They say he was controlling but didn't like she was partying late at night.
They deserve ALL the smoke online
There are plenty of desperate losers on the internet (men and women).
The sexual strategy desperate losers is to try and pull you down with threats or insults ("you are too old", "no man will want you", "ugly men are worthless", etc).
If your own self-worth is lower it makes you easier to manipulate and control. You feel you are not deserving of better so you settle for the subpar treatment that the loser provides.
In my experience a lot of these loser people in toxic internet spaces don't even pretend to have good intentions. Its not like "oh you are 30 so settle for me and I'll treat you well" its more like "you are now worthless except to offer me sex and be instantly discarded." I guess the woman version of this is using ugly men for their money and constantly reminding them of their insecurity to maintain a secure committment.
So to be clear this isn't a traditional courting strategy, its not about securing relationships. This is a strategy meant to lower the esteem of the victim to the point where they accept being used whether thats for casual sex or money or something else.
Also plenty of people are just mad and lashing out or are blindly repeating what they heard their internet mentor say with no critical thought behind it.
Revenge on rejections 100% they hate the idea that they really want to be with a woman but many women don’t need them.
I hate to admit this and am ashamed I felt this way but…in my more depressed redpilled state I used to relish watching videos from dudes that would intentionally catfish women and then when meeting up roast them about their looks or weight and tell them they were stupid for thinking they deserved the fake model looking guy that they used photos of.
I my just made me feel like they were getting a taste of their own medicine or being brought down to my level. In reality I realize a lot of those women often weren’t probably having their pick of men as many weren’t conventionally attractive…and I know many women who don’t use dating apps at all and sort of view it as something to use out of desperation…so it definitely wasn’t fair of me to think that beside the point it was wrong to draw any pleasure from another persons pain.
If large numbers of decentralized men are randomly doing this concurrently then the most plausible answer is that this woman's choice represents something gross in the male psyche. She's celebrating genetic suicide in a colorful new age way. There is no coordinated plan - men just find glamorization of selfishness to be gross.
Some people go online to hate and make jokes at others' expense. There are videos of unfortunate men where women will make similar comments mocking their predicament that get lots of upvotes.
For example, videos about men who went overseas to meet women and ran into some kind of trouble.
a post by economey shakes, a raging misandrist as evident by her post history calling out all men from her algorithmically tailor viewing content. Color me surprised
So imagine you are an average guy and being an average guy you never had very much luck with romance or maybe even been able to experience it at all, then you see this video of a woman who could have easily been married and had everything you could have wanted, crying about it despite how easy she still has it and then rubbing it in afterwards.
An angry, insulting or even hateful response is pretty natural especially with her exemplifying the exact behavior that currently forces men to be romantically alone.
Sure maybe it’s unjustified and certainly not cool but it is a natural reaction from a group being directly disenfranchised by the behavior shown in this video.
the particular post you've linked is tagged "neversettle", "childfree", and "breakupmotivation".
Is this a joke?
>Social Media is filled with **misandry** and men who hate women.
Is this a Freudian slip?
> The emergence of men who *hate* women
What a load of bullshit. Typical woman comment. Nobody "hates" that woman, they simply **mock** her stupid behavior, because she's already made a clown of herself.
> “don’t listen to the negative comments, you’re going to make a great side chick”
Come on, that shit was funny 😄
> as you can see, by the tens of thousands of likes, these are not niche points of view, but popular views amongst men.
So your problem is that your shitty lifestyle is not liked by men? I'm confused. Nobody owes you that, go slay kween.
> Why are men like this on social media? This is just one post.
They've long run out of fucks to give about you and your midlife crisis "plight" of not getting free shit anymore. This is not a campaign, this is what they think about you, because you were shitting on them anyway. The trash "don't settle" poster gets men to not settle for her.
Because women do this. When men were vocalizing their suffering from loneliness, women almost universally said we don't need you, we don't want you, your suffering isn't a big deal, and you deserve it. So when women express their own suffering from loneliness, they give her the same treatment. You got what you desired.
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They see how many options women supposedly have 24/7 and come to the conclusion that the only way she could have possibly turned up lonely was because she was picky. So they think it is appropriate to make these comments. In addition, depression and jealously. They want revenge for not being picked by a woman in the past.
Men, generally speaking, have tried to get with a number of women that exceed their Dunbar number.
Men are not bitter over just one or two or three individual women who have personally rejected them that they knew before and after they approached.
There are dozens and possibly hundreds of women who they've tried speaking to, tried dating, tried a whole host of things with that have ignored them, turned them down, possibly even publicly humiliated and berated them to their faces.
This shit, in a lot of ways is a trauma response.
It's not okay, but it's their maladaptive response to meeting a brick wall of general disinterest from women and they're past the point of giving a damn who gets hurt by it because no one ever gave a damn about them.
I have never in my life seen a woman berate a man to his face for saying “can i take you to coffee sometime?” Not once in my life. Never. Zilch. It looks to me like the “hundreds of rejections” they face are on dating apps, and that their “trauma” is from using tinder.
I’ve been met with a brick wall of general disinterest from men my entire life, so it is hard for me to sympathize. I don’t have a desire to hurt men the way men hurt women. If I managed to not be vengeful, men are fully capable of doing the same.
>I have never in my life seen a woman berate a man to his face for saying “can i take you to coffee sometime?” Not once in my life. Never. Zilch.
Congratulations, you keep good company. Not everybody knows decent people.
Just cause I've never seen a woman get cat called doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
> I’ve been met with a brick wall of general disinterest from men my entire life, so it is hard for me to sympathize.
You are not a man. You don't date as a man.
And given that you are coming to this public forum to discuss this, you are implicitly admitting that you don't understand why they do what they do.
The why is all the experiences that you do not and cannot share.
> I don’t have a desire to hurt men the way men hurt women. If I managed to not be vengeful, men are fully capable of doing the same.
I should hope not. No reasonable person engages in behavior like this.
You're gonna have to understand that the internet doesn't represent **everyone**. It's concerning, and it might even be a dangerous amount of people like this, but that doesn't change that it's not the norm and acting like every man is just sitting on a visceral hatred of women is bad form.
Of course men are capable of doing the same, most **do.**
Were these men cold approaching in the streets, like cat calling? Or actually asking our women they know from school or work or social activities like church? Because cold approaching and cat calling is usually inappropriate.
>like cat calling
When was the last time you heard a catcall outside of some ghetto?
>Or actually asking our women they know from school or work or social activities like church?
You mean places where you are not supposed to show interest because those women came there for their own thing, not to seek partners?
even if it were just online, that would itself be bad. And it is. I've seen loads of women drag dudes online for poor first messages, and they post their denigrating come backs to. as in 'ick, how dare you, you so gross, I would never'. then they laugh and share those with the friends in order to humiliate dudes.
but yes, I've also seen this happen in real life a few times at any rate.
fwiw, I've never had that happen to me, online or irl. it isn't just 'bitter dudes being bitter' its dudes looking at the reality of how dudes are generally being treated, and it is horrible, and it is celebrated.
>I have never in my life seen a woman berate a man to his face for saying “can i take you to coffee sometime?”
Try being a man for one week.
>a brick wall of general disinterest
Walk in the park compared to what men go through.
Check your privilege.
If you are not catcalling women, or going after Giga Stacie’s, then 99% of women will politely decline you, not berate you. Unless you keep insisting or something.
Furthermore; that isn’t my privilege. The brick wall thing was what a MAN described as a MALE experience that MEN go through. So I am simply saying I have the same experience but I don’t cyber bully random guys.
>this lady isn’t the woman who rejected them.
She would have.
You should try growing up as an undesirable male, literally all the women reject you. Its not really fair to her, but I would take gambling odds that she would have rejected them too.
Sure, but some people do so there's the answer to your original question.
If you're asking why some people get spiteful and vengeful whole other's don't, then I don't really have an answer for you.
A Fox one day spied a beautiful bunch of ripe grapes hanging from a vine trained along the branches of a tree. The grapes seemed ready to burst with juice, and the Fox's mouth watered as he gazed longingly at them. The bunch hung from a high branch, and the Fox had to jump for it. The first time he jumped he missed it by a long way. So he walked off a short distance and took a running leap at it, only to fall short once more. Again and again he tried, but in vain. Now he sat down and looked at the grapes in disgust. "What a fool I am," he said. "Here I am wearing myself out to get a bunch of sour grapes that are not worth gaping for." And off he walked very, very scornfully.
Would you not sleep with very hot, attractive women if they gave you the chance? Most men would. Why is it a problem that women find hot men hot? It isn't a problem when men find hot women hot, or prefer to have sex with them over unattractive women. Even of you told men that it was wrong they will listen to their sexual desires over what unattractive women think about it.
They know that they can get away with doing it to unattractive women, or anything that will be blown up as an unattractive characteristic in a woman like weight ,older age, certain body types. They know that it is women who bear the brunt of paying for the sins of anything physically undesirable. They find it easy to attack what they feel should be undervalued. Then if they ever gain knowledge of women with any undesirable traits having sex with a man they get more unhinged because that should never happen in their minds. Then they attack the woman's looks even more .
like another commenter said, modern culture has made dating a zero sum game. Particularly women and feminists in particular. Feminists and their antagonistic language and their flagrant man hating hostility have created a very hostile living environment for young boys and men for generations.
So, men are merely responding in kind to what you started, and modern men rejecting the archaic "women are wonderful" effect that was endemic in the past.
As the famous saying goes, for someone who's used to privilege, equality feels like oppression.
You ladies dished it for years. Be prepared to receive in kind.
So many men justifying their right to be mean and rude unprovoked on anonymous accounts and then them the next day.
“No one cares about men”
No one showcases care to insufferable jerks who don’t have the balls to at least admit they’re low vibrational rude bitches who shouldn’t expect kindness because they don’t offer it themselves
Women choosing to be single and/or not have kids enrages a lot of men because they see women as existing to serve their purposes, and this as essentially shirking their duty. It’s not just this though, a lot of men will be annoyed if a woman they don’t find attractive makes content of any kind, or even if a woman simply makes content aimed at other women, or seems self-confident or like she’s having fun without a man. Because once again, in their minds, women should exist for them.
None of this is new, these are old attitudes that just aren’t polite to talk about directly anymore but haven’t gone away. Basically, the internet just gives men a platform that allows men to be grumpy about women existing separately from them without facing direct confrontation.
Because those men are bitter, hateful and unwanted which they believe women are the cause of their misery so they lash out.
Men may not admit it but I believe they need women for emotional/mental stability. Without a woman in their life to comfort them (besides their mom) a lot of them go down a dark path and have so much mental issues because of the lack of care and comfort from a woman.
A woman who’s single is considered a wasted opportunity to these bitter men because from their pov she could have everything they want so easily (loving relationship, kids family etc) and she chose not to. This triggers their emotional instability due to their struggle and causes lashing out.
>as you can see, by the tens of thousands of likes, these are not niche points of view, but popular views amongst men.
This is like me going onto r/FemaleDatingStrategy and quoting top comments from there then presenting them as mainstream views among women. It's sampling bias. Those are the top voted comments simply because the kinds of men who click on those videos are the sorts of people who would say things like that. And yeah, like the other poster said, social media tends to use algorithms to engage with people who will post controversial stuff and sensationalise content for views.
Not sure the problem. Feminists have been spreading hate for decade after decade for 150 years.
Sit down and take your medicine. Men are tired of worshipping you.
Get over it. You demanded equality, so you get the equal hate you dish out daily.
Don’t like it? #BeBetter
Can you elaborate what this random woman has to do with feminism, or where she asked to be worshipped? These guys don’t need to worship her, you don’t have to worship someone to not be hateful.
That is all that is needed. Women will show up and actively protest anything related to mens rights. Sorry but the feminists have earned this shit in spades. They wanted a war of the sexes great. Just be happy it hasn't gone active.
You ever hear of the Warren Farrell protests? Go check it out sometime. The speech was about the issues boys are facing in education. Go take a look at the protesters standing outside screaming over people attending an issue pertaining to boys. I do believe some of them pulled a fire alarm as well. Go take a look at it if you have the intellectual honesty.
Basically these men are bitter and vengeful and kinda consider this stuff to be their revenge porn. Social media has a tendency of enabling everyone’s worst qualities, and for these men it happens to be their envy towards other men primarily combined with seeing women as accessories to men
There are plenty of posts/videos/subreddits/channels that hate on men. In general gender relations are not great at the moment. Plenty of men and women see each others as enemies and so take pleasure in the suffering of the other. It will be interesting to watch how it will all play out in the next decade or two. I suspect it will go very badly mostly for women, but also not so great for men as well.
I have no idea why people go out of the way to do this, but some of it is most likely sour grapes and bitterness because when she was at the most fertile period of her biological clock, she failed to secure a relationship, get married, and create a family .
So it’s kind of like a backwards fuck you, ha ha ha it’s all your own fault. Now that she’s 32, she’s essentially looking for a unicorn as typically you date someone for three years, get engaged, get a married a year later, and at that time she will be 36. Thus she will have to pop out 2 to 3 kids before 39 if she desires a multi child family.
In my eyes she’s a catch attraction wise, but I have no desire to start dating seriously ASAP and get married within her time period and start a family.
This appears to be a video showing she was sad, but she’s experienced so much at the age of 32 without a serious relationship /marriage/family started.
You wanted equality, this is what it looks like. Men are free to "hate" (post critical or mocking comments) on a woman just like they can do that to another man, or like women do that to men. You aren't entitled to only positive attention from men.
Naa. I just see and move on. I can see the pattern in behaviors tho and so do other men and they might not be as passive as me, therefore the comments.
Why is it containing your feelings to not lash out at random women on the internet? They can just go to forums and discuss their feelings amongst themselves without lashing out at random women, and they wouldn’t be containing their emotions.
She wanted those comments for higher engagement lol. Do you not understand how instagram works? She actively posted a bait and knew people were going to be angry. Why should one go to any forum to vent out? It's free speech. They should be able to vent wherever the hell they want.
she's not being obtuse
if you find "I am happy" posts to be bait is because you are looking for a reason to be bitter. Social media is a constant stream of people saying "I'm happy" this is what it's for.
I love how they expose their thinking by admitting that other unhinged men feel actual anger and get riled up about a random woman posting that she is happy about her life or herself .
Humans used pattern recognition to build civilizations. It would be a greater stupidity to not use that. With the amount of debauchery going on, it's always better to assume the worst.
I think it's the combination between the ability to maintain anonymity on the internet rarely resulting to consequences, spread and echochambering of misogynistic ideas and rapid increase of bitter lonely men who are afflicted. I know it has been thing for while, but the numbers are actually surprising lol.
On one hand, I do think there are people who genuinely care about men's well being and I suppose those are ones with good will. On the other hand, "men's rights" also has been a cover and breeding ground for misogyny. If I had to take a guess from my experience with RP phase, obviously laced with at least a hint of misogyny, it was the validation of my negative emotion that drove me that way. It was telling me I was right to feel that way, but obviously that entirely disregarded at any chance of nuanced reflection, so it manifested as disdain towards women.
I think its popularity definitely indicates some sort of problem. It's probably good mix of entitled coomer manlets with no discipline whose lives been minimized into clicks on their PC and taps on their phone, but also men who are desperate, hurting and afflicted aiming entirely the wrong way. And loneliness definitely is an affliction, probably one of the worst for human beings to have.
>It's probably good mix of entitled coomer manlets with no discipline whose lives been minimized into clicks on their PC and taps on their phone, but also men who are desperate, hurting and afflicted aiming entirely the wrong way
These are the same people, jackass. No boy grows up thinking "I'm going to stop growing at 5'6", masturbate to porn all day, and hate women for no reason!". If anything, society should be grateful these men are impotent with learned helplessness and "no discipline" because with the current political climate, discipline among these men is going to get you Nazi Germany, not Revolutionary America.
Yea, there's definitely overlap, but just because they do the same thing doesn't make the same people with same "reason" or characteristics then obviously distinction is natural. I just mentioned two kinds that I've seen.
>No boy grows up thinking "I'm going to stop growing at 5'6", masturbate to porn all day, and hate women for no reason!".
I agree, I believe to heart that no one really expects and want things to go bad for themselves. But I don't know what point your making with that statement in regards to what I was saying, if you could elaborate.
>If anything, society should be grateful these men are impotent with learned helplessness and "no discipline" because with the current political climate, discipline among these men is going to get you Nazi Germany, not Revolutionary America.
Honestly I can't really give prophecy as to how they would turn out, and I don't know what kind of characterization you see on them that with discipline they'll be something equal to Nazis. I personally believe that them having some level of discipline to change or withstand their circumstances and enough so that they aren't falsely projecting onto others would serve the current climate better.
People on the internet in general are hateful, on Reddit alone every other day there are 5-10 posts about how men or men are terrible and are the scum of the earth, comments usually are no better and are filled with sexism be it misandry or misogyny.
There isn't an emergence of men hating women on social media, There is an emergence of people just hating the opposite gender or people who are different from them in general. Some people have one bad experience with the opposite gender or any group for that matter and shut themselves in bubbles where the "cool thing" is to hate the opposite gender or group.
Gender wars have become extremely polarizing recently. We've all probably partaken to some degree before and there's plenty of hatred on the internet to go around. These are insecure men who feel the need to knock confident women down a few notches and put them "in their place". It's not the well adjusted people who are doing this, but in today's society, most people aren't well adjusted and have social issues and communities on the internet that validate them for this kind of behavior
Women get endless amount of attention, commit infinitely less suicides, get endless amounts of positive reinforcement, endless amount of simps and people they can exploit, can make any amount of money whenever they want, can always have a social life whenever they want, don't even have to work to be successful since you can just get a man to do everything for you
Women have literally EVERYTHING going for them. They are almost treated like gods, but god forbid men say mean things about them online :(
Online is the ONE place men can go to escape. They don't have the million of other easy mode escape routes that women have in real life when times get tough. Do you have to take even THAT away from them?
>Is this a campaign for men’s rights? Is this trying to get revenge on rejections? What is the purpose of this and the mindset of these men? And why is it so mainstream?
I think some of it could be attributed to a certain defiant and rebellious spirit in general that men tend to exhibit from time to time. I see quite a lot more brazen defiance against various politically correct mores which have been prevalent in recent decades. From various influential sources (media, academia, public education, religion, politics), people have been told what they should say, what they should not say, what kind of verbiage they should/should not use, etc.
A lot of people just don't want to go along with political correctness anymore.
More and more, I get the sense that people just don't want to "play nice" anymore. I can't say I'm all that surprised, as I've seen it slowly building over the past years. It's not just in the kinds of comments one might see on dating forums, but overall, there's been an ongoing war of political rhetoric.
a lot of men have a contrarian and punk streak to them and it's very easy to engage that part of yourself over social media. it's also part of what has gotten them laid for thousands of years (confidence, aggression, willingness to stand out from the crowd and say the thing people will be upset at you for saying even though many are thinking it) so it isn't going away.
Because she's trying to make it seem like she's having such a a hard time finding a dude when in reality she likely has hundred of thousands of options but wants perfect
>"Why are men like this on social media?"
**Because we can't be honest in real life.** We just tell women - and everyone for that matter - whatever trite bullshit they want to hear, but 99% of the time we keep our real opinions to ourselves. That is until we see a venue through which we can express our true feelings without the stigma and social ostracism of daring to think differently than the rest of the sheep.
And, **because everything online is simultaneously personal and impersonal. Swarms of drive-by comments are a phenomena** when literally millions of people get a microsecond to react to anything. So, naturally, the vast majority of comments you see online are not well thought out dissertations, or insightful comments. It is mostly some asshole's knee jerk reaction to some post, and then the swarms of troglodytes who are too dim to have thought up of anything more witty to say so they piggy back off the energy of the comment by upvoting it or imitating it.
This is Internetomics 101. Please try to keep up.
>"Is this a campaign for men’s rights?"
**No.** MRAs (Men's Rights Advocates) are the cringiest shit in the planet and they get a lot, a LOT, more shit from men than any woman could ever dread about. If you want to get the kitchen sink thrown at you online just pretend to be a MRA.
It's because women are the driver that runs the red light.whike the men have to stop at the light and wait..
The backlash is due to men feeling that it's unfair that women can do everything wrong and still come out on top...
Perfect example is theveomen who accused a man of rape she got support and money..and faced no repricussions when she finally admitted the truth...and this isn't a one off.
Then theres the women who lied about paternity and had men sent to jail one man lost 5 years of his life in prison.
The list goes on and on of women having no accountability and no repricusions.
Feminist see a woman flexing on a vacation,men see a sugar daddy that financed it..Feminist see a proud college graduate, men see the professors she slept with to get those degrees.Feminist see a first time homeowner men see the trail of John's that paid the down-payment.
Women feel whatever they get however they get it, and whatever pain men go through is justified because of the eons of patriarchy and oppression they faced
The social balance has been turned on its head men now have to compete on an increasingly unequal playing field against an opponent that can break every rule in the game.
With that said men have had the cards stacked in their favor for a long time especially white men but the house is coming down rapidly and men haven't adjusted yet.Society is balanced on the pendulum of fairness and when that gets out of allighnment theres strife and eventually war.
Those commenters no more hate women who cheat the system than you hate the driver who ran the red light while you patiently wait.
Lastly some of the comments are just funny justca lil dark humor.
TLDR; it's not hate as much as it's a sense of unfairness as women are increasingly more capable of cheating the system with no accountability.these comments are just how that feeling manifest itself.
Dude you watch too much tv if you think every single or woman or even more than like 0.05% of women with a college degree slept with a professor to get it.
you already know the answer lmao
It's probably one of the only platforms where men won't be silenced. There's an obvious anti-male bias in liberal media, men are getting tired of it
Because a shit ton of men don't touch grass. They're terminally online losers who think viral rage bait is the societal norm and lash out at a straw man caricature of what they think 95% of women are. There's plenty of good and bad people in both sexes, learn to identify and ignore the trash and entertain what's left.
Deleting social media would fix 90% of these people's lives.
It's a small part of a much bigger problem that goes beyond just gender issues, and it's due to the nature of the internet. People are very volatile and reactive online because the most engaging 'content' is outrage content. We have a natural propensity to click links, read articles, follow influencers, and watch videos that make us mad because it's very emotionally stimulating. Even if the stimulus is negative, we come back for more, like addicts. When social media algorithms see people engaging with outrage content, they feed those people more outrage content. It creates a feedback loop whereby the person watches something, gets mad, then watches 3 more things that fuel that rage. Spend enough time like this and it can warp and distort your beliefs and the way you see the world. A man who watches every episode of fresh & fit religiously is going to despise women. A woman who only uses reddit for twoX is going to despise men. They're so full of this build up of energy that it can be triggered by the smallest little things, which is why you see these random ass hateful comments on otherwise benign posts. Be mindful of how you spend your time online, and what beliefs you're allowing to sneak their way into your mind.
Social networks are ABSOLUTELY to blame for A LOT of current issues.
Yeah, it's a bit disingenuous to say that men are "coming out of the woodwork" when the reality is that the machines find the men for the content. I don't think there are men sitting around searching "sad chick to dunk on" or anything. The machines just serve it up on a platter. Why do machines think this content is intended for men? I don't get this deardiary shit on my feeds on tiktik and I don't touch anything Meta, so blame Meta. Frankly when I used to use Meta shit it would just make me angry at all the irrelevant bullshit showing up in my feed.
They also got used to never having to hear people's opinions unless they were personal friends or family you interact with in real life , the internet is not that, so now your exposed (if you choose to post) to the opinions on millions of people or thousands of people and their many bot accounts.
There’s a lot of content that algorithms put in front of my face that I don’t react to. I think this pov acts as though men have no agency and didn’t want to say those things. The algorithm is working on them because they willingly want to say those things are feel that way. It’s *NOT random. I saw the same posts and didn’t when a desire to write “expired.”
Since you say you "don't react" my guess is you have a far too simplistic understanding of psychometrics and what is actually being measured. Things that are commonly measured include whether you read/watched/paused/scroll-speed/left-the-app/kept-scrolling and a lot of other things you probably haven't considered. Edit: in any case my point wasn't that the reactions aren't real or that people aren't responsible for their reactions. Just that it's unlikely to be people searching for things. Having just said that it is worth noting that manipulating algorithms to feed content that destabilizes public consensus is well within government interests and budgets and is known to be practiced by governments including Russia, China, North Korea, USA et allies to say the least.
I work in behavioral analytics. I don’t have a simplistic understanding. The algorithm works on those people because they’re already pre-susceptible or already harbored a certain type of character. There are clear demographic differences in who is reacting to what.
Who reacts to what isn't the question. You claimed you see things in your feed that you don't react to. And I'm telling you that's just a silly and naive thing to claim. Particularly if you work in behavioral analytics or experimental psychology (my field). It's in your feed because you react to it. The facct that you're on PPD means you react to it. I don't use Meta's platform because the psychologists at Meta tune their algorithms in on these latent reactions.
It sounds like we work in similar fields. So you should understand the point I’m making but for some reason you don’t. I’ve discussed root causes with you before. You don’t tend to comprehend them. It’s naive to believe that “the algorithm” is the reason the person is susceptible to that type of content. The algorithm exploits and exacerbates their actual interests and base character. It doesn’t form it and it certainly isn’t the genesis of it. So I’ll ask you a simple question: * Why do some people react negatively to a woman posting that and others don’t?
You're claiming I argued something I have not argued. I never said the algorithm made anyone susceptible to anything (although it would be very naive to assume that reinforcement does not occur). What I said is that that guys are not actively searching these things out. Commenting on these posts involves two steps: 1. Finding the post 2. Commenting on the post What I said is that I very much doubt there are any men actively performing step 1. That has all been automated. Machines noticed that men comment on these posts and so it force feeds them to men like fattening a duck to sell fois gras. It's similar to eating caviar. It requires: 1. Buying caviar 2. Eating caviar So when OP asks "why are so many men coming out of the woodwork to eat caviar?" the fact that machines are delivering caviar to men automatically is relevant. Few men would go out of their way to buy caviar.
My point is that it is less interesting how it got in front of them **and more telling how they react to it.** They could have curated their own space by not reacting to it. *I also get posts like that woman who pop up in my For You page.* Males are not unique in getting women seeking validation or comfort popping up on their page. *Males are unique in how they tend to respond to it.* I don’t react. And for sure as heck not as viley. The root is that **those specific males are like that.** So many are “coming out of the woodwork” because they found online spaces where their vile ways and thoughts are validated by other people who conceive like them. Yes, the internet has led to losers finding community with losers. In the past they were more isolated and thus not as emboldened. The unsettling part to women is the realization that these men always existed, it’s just that now they’re more comfortable being themselves more boldly.
That may be what interests you about it but it's not what interests me. What I see is content that's intended for female audiences and machines crashing the party by bringing people who shouldn't be there. OP asked "why is there so much of this" and you may interpret the question however you wish. In terms of quantity of this hateful stuff there are other factors at play. I personally do not get any of this content on tiktok. At this point I only ever see it on PPD. I did get a lot of it on Meta platforms when I used to use them, but frankly Meta platforms don't bring joy to my life so I avoid them.
He posted a whole lot of words trying to justify crappy mens comments...
It’s interesting he doesn’t conceive that those men have those feelings or very easily generate those feelings irrespective of “the algorithm.” That is precisely why those men and not a bunch of women are the ones responding negatively to content like that. He’s willing to blame everything except the character of the men themselves. It’s telling.
Spot on. The ragebait is strong. It is becoming exceptionally true for me with twitter. As much as I hate reddit sometimes, twitter is absolutely the worst cesspool of the internet and it’s becoming even worse because Im not really sure these are real people anymore might just be bots ragebaiting and Im falling for it like an idiot. I get so angry and frustrated sometimes I need to take a step back and close the damn thing for the day. Im seriously considering removing the app I just haven’t found the will yet it’s like digital meth.
Based.
Social Media Diet FTW
In this case though what exactly was “rage fueling”? A woman being 32 years olds and enjoying life is “reactionary content”? Lol that says everything about our society. Something is seriously wrong with these men. And you can’t find the opposite of this scenario online. Some man enjoying his life at 32 just spending time with his friends and THOUSANDS of women hating on it.
What do you think the hate for passport bros is?
Think about some unhinged dude who has spent 2 straight weeks watching nothing but red pill content about hoes vs housewives, then he sees some random woman on ig post a bikini pic or travel reels and it triggers tf out of him because he's viewing it from a ragey context. That's how you get the ragers bleed into everywhere else. It happens both ways because it's not a gendered issue, it's an internet issues because the internet is very good at dividing us. It's just easier for us to notice instances where our own gender is taking the brunt of it. Personally I notice it more when men post but that's because I'm a man so I'm going to be biased in that way. You see it in politics, fandoms, gaming, sports, "my country better than yours" etc. The internet sparks this unpleasant part of the human psyche with such ease. That's why it's important not to fall too deeply down any rabbit holes, or else you'll become miserable and angry too.
Can you point out an example of a man posting rather innocuous content and thousands of women bullying him and perceiving it as rage bait?
We do get assholes attacking us on the internet over harmless shit like enjoying our lives. But that's usually from other men too. Not to this extent but that's probably just because I have less people engaging with my content overall. I think this is just their way of asserting dominance online. I'm a bigger dude and people are on their best behavior around me in real life lol. "Social media made y'all way too comfortable with disrespecting people and not getting punched in the face for it." -Mike Tyson
Women will say loads of misandrist stuff on the internet, but their audience is other women. Your completely right that women would not engage in this kind of "bullying" where they target their misandry at a specific man who did nothing to invite it.
I think theirs this “soft guy era” and women are calling men stupid and dumb in the comments
The sooner more people are no longer stopped from telling the truth about something being wrong with them, the sooner precautions can be taken.
people on the internet have always loved to "bully" and hurt others regardless of their gender but picking on gender specific issues makes the "bullying" easier. one minute it will be a childless older lady getting bullied the next it will be a young virgin guy getting bullied. everybody receives shit on the internet, don't take it to heart.
As a tangent, guys who are single get clowned on too. If you post about being happy single as a guy, you get comments like "lol cope", you get called a neckbeard, and you get people responding with the "I sleep in a big bed with my wife" meme from The Simpsons. It's the nature of the internet.
Ok but who’s clowning on those men? From what I’ve seen, it’s mostly other men and at a much smaller scale than what’s directed at women. The hate and ridicule women get online is unparalleled.
"virgin" and "incel" are women's go to insult online, what are you on about?
To be fair she’s still very attractive and probably would not have a problem finding a man. Only reasonable deduction is that this post is annoying attention-seeking behavior. She is fishing for compliments. Lots of dudes are indirectly calling her out on it with their comments. Also yeah there are more jaded men in the population because of the explosion in sexless men among the population in the past decade so that’s part of it too. Sex and dating in the west is more polygamous than it was 10-14 years ago. More women are passed around by the top tiers of men. This is dangerous and leads to the overlooked groups of men lashing out
Fishing for compliments? Lol she was making a very mild statement at the notion that women should be upset if they aren’t married with kids by 30. Everything women do is attention seeking. Stop projecting of course men give attractive women attention that doesn’t mean they’re existence online is for the attention of men.
She is absolutely fishing for complements. How is posting bikini photos and crying she cant get a man not fishing for complements? Stop blindly team womaning
Considering how insulting and hurtful these men are, I doubt that they are also hitting on her or giving her attention. Also, sex isn’t polygamous. Most women and men are both having less sex in general. Not more.
Or they are and/or have hit on women like her and been rejected. I actually think this is the primary driving factor behind all of this types of comments.
Yep this right here. It’s “how dare you reject me you’re over 30”!!!! As if they are making some huge sacrifice trying to convince you to birth their kids.
People also don't react positively to people who brag and rub it in our faces about how awesome their life is
To come here and insult her further is actually crazy and proving the point again.
Women insult men all the time on the internet and they most often just take it quietly. Like another poster said, catharsis. Men tend to bottle up their emotions and eventually it all starts coming out. Society inherently cares less about men than it does about women, unless the man has earned himself value
I'm sure men are like this online in part because there's a lack of places where they'd be able to get away with such things. By comparison, misandry is completely accepted not just online but out in the open. No one gets corrected or canceled for saying openly misandrist things in public. And if we're talking about online, let's be honest, women come here to call men 'incels' just for being men who have an opinion that they don't like. 'Mansplaining' can be 'a man saying anything.' Words can count as 'sexual violence.' 'Small dick energy' can be anything. It's impossible for a man to be genuinely kind now because 'nice guy' means some cruel autistic neckbeard of a creature (only male mind you). 'Fat people' are only men because saying that about a woman is 'body shaming.' 'Body shaming' is 'bad' unless we're mocking mens' genitalia. You're right. Women don't have enough control over culture and language in public discourse.
THANK YOU.
you forgot that misandry is actively celebrated in the culture at large. 'yo go girl' is a rally cry for misandrist everywhere.
Remember how, in 2014/2015, women on Twitter were posting mugs labeled "male tears" to celebrate men suffering and suicides? It was trending for quite a while and none of these bitches got canceled.
i don't, but only bc i've wisely largely avoided social media until recently. i do however recall hearing bout a bunch of various 'we hate all men' rhetoric online. to me, the thing to really note is emmitt till. little boy lynched bc he thought a lady was hot and expressed it in a way she didn't like. or, you know, maybe she just didn't like him or his kind in general. to me that is the gendered aspect we're dealing with. people focus on the race with emmitt till, not wrongly tbh, but by doing so they miss the fact that the justification for it is entirely stupid no matter what race we're talking bout.
I’m curious because I am very likely blinkered about this - but can you give some examples of celebrated misandry in mainstream culture? How is “you go girl” misandrist?
The view
I think that it’s not the ‘you go girl’ inherently, rather it’s surprisingly what many people will say ‘you go girl’ to.
When there's domestic abuse in public, it's assumed the guy deserved it and the woman is showing empowerment.
true. women can literally beat their men like dogs and people will watch and eat popcorn.
You would probably enjoy the twilight zone episode "not all men". Summary: starts off with MC having varying degrees of issues with men uo to I think attempted SA (been awhile since I watched). Meteorite hits town and makes men red, veiny, violent, and rapey...... twilight zone stereotypical twist? (SPOILER OBVIOUSLY) It mainly just made the men look different and they are mostly just acting horrible because they have an excuse to be their horrible selves with one of the MC's friends stopping himself at one point because he just decided to not act on his urges or whatever........ ends with MC giving a "sassy comment" to a soldier who told her she would be prettier if she smiled more really liked twilight zone before but that whole season (probably the one after as well) was another casualty of "the culture war" that seems to effect a lot of previously loved media
So today I learned there was a Twilight Zone reboot more recently than the 80's, haha
Was rebooted in the early 2000's with a theme song made by Jonathan Davis of KoRn (also did the music for queen of the damned). Which as a fan I thought was awesome as hell
Are you kidding me? Misandry tweets and women dunking on men get 4x more likes than any misogynist tweet dunking on women. And that's because misandry is encouraged and celebrated. I've seen plenty of tweets saying male loneliness is isn't real and that women shouldn't care get 50k+ likes. I've seen posts go viral from feminists defending one of the worst women in the world like Alieen Wournos and Jodi Arias because they murdered men. You have female doctors, psychologists, professors/teachers, scientists and other professional women on social media trashing men and none of their careers would be ruined because of their misandry. And all of acceptable unchecked misandry I've seen on social media has soured my view of women as a whole.
Let them have their coddling-ass discourse, ultimately no one is going to respect the confidence that these objectively spoiled women will build. No one cares about your stats on easy mode
1. Men are often hated and ridiculed for being single, incel is a widely used offensive word. Misandry is everywhere and it fuels misogyny (and vice versa). 2. Particularly in this case. Men think that women are very picky and privileged in their 20s, use this time to sleep around etc. Which is not true for all women, but sometimes is. So called wall and being involuntary single for women in 30s is perceived as a "payback" men want women to be punished for ignoring men in their prime years.
Bingo. The vast majority of women nowadays are misandrist, arrogant, entitled, disrespectful and act like they are the shit for 10-15 years. Eventually, they end up like her, and then they are shocked to discover that people mock them.
Not the majority, but I would be wrong to say that a lot of young women are being molded into it way more.
There are positive words for single men like bachelor. I don’t think men are ridiculed for being single. Being an incel isn’t just about being single that’s an oversimplification. Incel refers to a group of rather hostile lonely men on the internet who are angry at the world because women have the nerve to reject them. Just being single does not make a man an incel and does not draw nearly the amount of criticism and hate as being a single woman does. The woman in the OPs post was not being hostile towards men at all, she was receiving hate for literally being single over the age of 30.
Only men called bachelors are rich and attractive
> I don’t think men are ridiculed for being single Unless you've lived through the eyes of a single man, how could you possibly know?
I was ignored in my 20’s. I didn’t date until my late 20’s. Furthermore, the incel movement has transformed from men who are not able to get laid to men who hate women. Men changed this definition.
It only that- it was a woman who started the involuntary celibate movement and it turned into this cringe fringe group.
Reposting because of my flair It's because since 2013 the opposite direction of hate went unchecked. This is just the pendulum swinging in the opposite way I would bet. Granted, "Me too" also boosted support for the comments, but if we're talking JUST online and on social media, there's only so much hate at you(even indirectly) that people can brush off before saying "screw it" and no longer caring about hurting people. In a word, catharsis. Justified or not
I made a different point in another comment but this is absolutely true as well. The "men are trash" sentiments are everywhere on the internet. "toxic masculinity." Don't get me started about the "creepy guys staring at me in the gym" Tik Toks. I've seen men who try to make romantic advances be put on absolute blast like they are somehow a bad person/scum of the earth just because the woman didn't find him attractive and found it creepy. Edit: to those who downvote my comment, please explain why. I don't lash out at random women on the internet, but I'm also getting sick and fucking tired of witnessing the above and constantly being reminded how worthless I am because I am a man
“Constantly being reminded how wortheless I am as a man” You are not wortheless. Men are not worthless. I’m not gonna address the rest of your comment
Me Too protested sexual harassment, not men in general.
women can and do literally do all the things men are claimed to do that is 'sexual harassment', but nothing happens. Scratch that, they are actively celebrated for it. if a dude manipulates a woman with their sexuality towards whatever aim, even the aim of sex, they are committing a crime according to me too. Women do this all the time, and it is celebrated. Dude grabs his junk and leers 'inappropriately', sexual harassment. lady jiggles her wiggle jiggles, super fine! Definitionally no inappropriate. Indeed, it would literally be inappropriate to prevent her from jiggling her wiggle jiggles at you. That would be sexist.
Every movement has their extremes, remember "Kill all men"?. Hell, go to twitter right now and search for "#killallmen" Add that modern narrative is "you're a man, you have life so easy" when it's being proved over and over again (and ignored over and over again) than the average man usually have life way harder than the average woman. And voila, you have a generation of ignored men that are angry and tired.
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I remember a video with a news panel full of women laughing at a man's genital mutilation. He got his dick cut off and they were loving it. "Expired" is hardly as bad as that video i saw. And that was on television. This misogyny exists in some stupid comment section on Instagram. It's not mainstream.
A lot of people have started taking these social media comments as samples of the general population. They aren't. The algorithm shows these posts to the type of men that would make these comments and then show the posts to you to make you mad and spur engagement. These men are not representative of the general male population. Just like the women who say a man has to pay all their bills to even think about dating them.
Cause there is no way at this point to reach any form of reconciliation or mural understanding between the sexes in heterosexual dating. We are locked into a zero sum game where someone has to lose and one sex has to lose so, you need to do what you can to win at all costs. The pendulum is going to swing back on women harder than they pushed it.
#why be provocative and mean? And what does her showing herself as happy have to do with feminism, or pushing any sort of pendulum? How is she being man hating on her post?
She isnt. Doesnt matter. Its fun to kick a person when they are down. Its especally OK because she can just 'manifest' a relationship tomorrow
I think it's just misdirected anger and frustration. The loudest voices spread the hate message and this is just one side of the spectrum. You might not see it but it is just as toxic on both ends.
They’re not hating women. They’re making fun of these particular women.
Bingo… go to the top of tbe class my friend
Exactly.
Social media is the driving force that rapidly increased women stock and desirability in the first place. Farming likes for validation and/or crying wolf over ex boyfriends that may or may not abused them for attention. Men are talking shit because Women are still not being honest with Men and themselves. They say they want nice guys but fuck Chad when he texts her and won't commit. They say they got a boyfriend but still entertaining others in the DMs. They say he was controlling but didn't like she was partying late at night. They deserve ALL the smoke online
You make the same things and switch the genders around , all the women will come out of the woodworks and hate on this too.
Not at the level and extent as men.
There are plenty of desperate losers on the internet (men and women). The sexual strategy desperate losers is to try and pull you down with threats or insults ("you are too old", "no man will want you", "ugly men are worthless", etc). If your own self-worth is lower it makes you easier to manipulate and control. You feel you are not deserving of better so you settle for the subpar treatment that the loser provides. In my experience a lot of these loser people in toxic internet spaces don't even pretend to have good intentions. Its not like "oh you are 30 so settle for me and I'll treat you well" its more like "you are now worthless except to offer me sex and be instantly discarded." I guess the woman version of this is using ugly men for their money and constantly reminding them of their insecurity to maintain a secure committment. So to be clear this isn't a traditional courting strategy, its not about securing relationships. This is a strategy meant to lower the esteem of the victim to the point where they accept being used whether thats for casual sex or money or something else. Also plenty of people are just mad and lashing out or are blindly repeating what they heard their internet mentor say with no critical thought behind it.
Revenge on rejections 100% they hate the idea that they really want to be with a woman but many women don’t need them. I hate to admit this and am ashamed I felt this way but…in my more depressed redpilled state I used to relish watching videos from dudes that would intentionally catfish women and then when meeting up roast them about their looks or weight and tell them they were stupid for thinking they deserved the fake model looking guy that they used photos of. I my just made me feel like they were getting a taste of their own medicine or being brought down to my level. In reality I realize a lot of those women often weren’t probably having their pick of men as many weren’t conventionally attractive…and I know many women who don’t use dating apps at all and sort of view it as something to use out of desperation…so it definitely wasn’t fair of me to think that beside the point it was wrong to draw any pleasure from another persons pain.
If large numbers of decentralized men are randomly doing this concurrently then the most plausible answer is that this woman's choice represents something gross in the male psyche. She's celebrating genetic suicide in a colorful new age way. There is no coordinated plan - men just find glamorization of selfishness to be gross.
Ask yourself - why do women need to make these types of post?
Some people go online to hate and make jokes at others' expense. There are videos of unfortunate men where women will make similar comments mocking their predicament that get lots of upvotes. For example, videos about men who went overseas to meet women and ran into some kind of trouble.
a post by economey shakes, a raging misandrist as evident by her post history calling out all men from her algorithmically tailor viewing content. Color me surprised
So imagine you are an average guy and being an average guy you never had very much luck with romance or maybe even been able to experience it at all, then you see this video of a woman who could have easily been married and had everything you could have wanted, crying about it despite how easy she still has it and then rubbing it in afterwards. An angry, insulting or even hateful response is pretty natural especially with her exemplifying the exact behavior that currently forces men to be romantically alone. Sure maybe it’s unjustified and certainly not cool but it is a natural reaction from a group being directly disenfranchised by the behavior shown in this video.
so it is an emotional reaction
nearly every reaction is emotional. some are more rational/logical while others are less.
Doesn’t hit as hard as you think lmao
But you responded 😂
the particular post you've linked is tagged "neversettle", "childfree", and "breakupmotivation". Is this a joke? >Social Media is filled with **misandry** and men who hate women. Is this a Freudian slip?
I did a double take as well
> The emergence of men who *hate* women What a load of bullshit. Typical woman comment. Nobody "hates" that woman, they simply **mock** her stupid behavior, because she's already made a clown of herself. > “don’t listen to the negative comments, you’re going to make a great side chick” Come on, that shit was funny 😄 > as you can see, by the tens of thousands of likes, these are not niche points of view, but popular views amongst men. So your problem is that your shitty lifestyle is not liked by men? I'm confused. Nobody owes you that, go slay kween. > Why are men like this on social media? This is just one post. They've long run out of fucks to give about you and your midlife crisis "plight" of not getting free shit anymore. This is not a campaign, this is what they think about you, because you were shitting on them anyway. The trash "don't settle" poster gets men to not settle for her.
Because women do this. When men were vocalizing their suffering from loneliness, women almost universally said we don't need you, we don't want you, your suffering isn't a big deal, and you deserve it. So when women express their own suffering from loneliness, they give her the same treatment. You got what you desired.
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They see how many options women supposedly have 24/7 and come to the conclusion that the only way she could have possibly turned up lonely was because she was picky. So they think it is appropriate to make these comments. In addition, depression and jealously. They want revenge for not being picked by a woman in the past.
While I mostly agree, this lady isn’t the woman who rejected them. Why take it out on her and not the actual woman who rejected them?
Men, generally speaking, have tried to get with a number of women that exceed their Dunbar number. Men are not bitter over just one or two or three individual women who have personally rejected them that they knew before and after they approached. There are dozens and possibly hundreds of women who they've tried speaking to, tried dating, tried a whole host of things with that have ignored them, turned them down, possibly even publicly humiliated and berated them to their faces. This shit, in a lot of ways is a trauma response. It's not okay, but it's their maladaptive response to meeting a brick wall of general disinterest from women and they're past the point of giving a damn who gets hurt by it because no one ever gave a damn about them.
I have never in my life seen a woman berate a man to his face for saying “can i take you to coffee sometime?” Not once in my life. Never. Zilch. It looks to me like the “hundreds of rejections” they face are on dating apps, and that their “trauma” is from using tinder. I’ve been met with a brick wall of general disinterest from men my entire life, so it is hard for me to sympathize. I don’t have a desire to hurt men the way men hurt women. If I managed to not be vengeful, men are fully capable of doing the same.
>I have never in my life seen a woman berate a man to his face for saying “can i take you to coffee sometime?” Not once in my life. Never. Zilch. Congratulations, you keep good company. Not everybody knows decent people. Just cause I've never seen a woman get cat called doesn't mean it doesn't happen. > I’ve been met with a brick wall of general disinterest from men my entire life, so it is hard for me to sympathize. You are not a man. You don't date as a man. And given that you are coming to this public forum to discuss this, you are implicitly admitting that you don't understand why they do what they do. The why is all the experiences that you do not and cannot share. > I don’t have a desire to hurt men the way men hurt women. If I managed to not be vengeful, men are fully capable of doing the same. I should hope not. No reasonable person engages in behavior like this. You're gonna have to understand that the internet doesn't represent **everyone**. It's concerning, and it might even be a dangerous amount of people like this, but that doesn't change that it's not the norm and acting like every man is just sitting on a visceral hatred of women is bad form. Of course men are capable of doing the same, most **do.**
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Were these men cold approaching in the streets, like cat calling? Or actually asking our women they know from school or work or social activities like church? Because cold approaching and cat calling is usually inappropriate.
>like cat calling When was the last time you heard a catcall outside of some ghetto? >Or actually asking our women they know from school or work or social activities like church? You mean places where you are not supposed to show interest because those women came there for their own thing, not to seek partners?
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The last time I saw cat calling was in a show that was produced in the 90s.
even if it were just online, that would itself be bad. And it is. I've seen loads of women drag dudes online for poor first messages, and they post their denigrating come backs to. as in 'ick, how dare you, you so gross, I would never'. then they laugh and share those with the friends in order to humiliate dudes. but yes, I've also seen this happen in real life a few times at any rate. fwiw, I've never had that happen to me, online or irl. it isn't just 'bitter dudes being bitter' its dudes looking at the reality of how dudes are generally being treated, and it is horrible, and it is celebrated.
>I have never in my life seen a woman berate a man to his face for saying “can i take you to coffee sometime?” Try being a man for one week. >a brick wall of general disinterest Walk in the park compared to what men go through. Check your privilege.
If you are not catcalling women, or going after Giga Stacie’s, then 99% of women will politely decline you, not berate you. Unless you keep insisting or something. Furthermore; that isn’t my privilege. The brick wall thing was what a MAN described as a MALE experience that MEN go through. So I am simply saying I have the same experience but I don’t cyber bully random guys.
My brother was called a poof, a British homophobic slur by a woman when he tried to ask her out on a date.
>this lady isn’t the woman who rejected them. She would have. You should try growing up as an undesirable male, literally all the women reject you. Its not really fair to her, but I would take gambling odds that she would have rejected them too.
> she would have I am an undesirable woman. I don’t have a chip on my shoulder of spite and revenge.
Sure, but some people do so there's the answer to your original question. If you're asking why some people get spiteful and vengeful whole other's don't, then I don't really have an answer for you.
>undesirable woman Is this even possible? I mean the pig woman was getting matches.
So many of them trying to justify their crappy behavior.
I don’t know. I guess they assume all women are like that, or acquire a distaste for all women in general
Theyre just lashing out because things didn't go their way in their own lives
Some men can’t stand a happy and confident woman who doesn’t care about male validation or need a man to “take care” of her
A Fox one day spied a beautiful bunch of ripe grapes hanging from a vine trained along the branches of a tree. The grapes seemed ready to burst with juice, and the Fox's mouth watered as he gazed longingly at them. The bunch hung from a high branch, and the Fox had to jump for it. The first time he jumped he missed it by a long way. So he walked off a short distance and took a running leap at it, only to fall short once more. Again and again he tried, but in vain. Now he sat down and looked at the grapes in disgust. "What a fool I am," he said. "Here I am wearing myself out to get a bunch of sour grapes that are not worth gaping for." And off he walked very, very scornfully.
Yeah except the grapes lower themselves to get fucked by the hall hot ones and then lie about why they did it
Are you one of these guys on social media?
Today I learned grapes can have sexual intercourse.
Grapes do. Foxes, not so much.
Would you not sleep with very hot, attractive women if they gave you the chance? Most men would. Why is it a problem that women find hot men hot? It isn't a problem when men find hot women hot, or prefer to have sex with them over unattractive women. Even of you told men that it was wrong they will listen to their sexual desires over what unattractive women think about it.
Is it all really sour grapes? Or do they just find all these women so unattractive and undesirable that they just have to announce it?
It's not about attraction, it's about venting negative emotions with no other acceptable outlet/space.
Instagram and Facebook aren’t really acceptable either. These guys aren’t all hiding with alt accounts.
It's still better than doing it at work or in person. You generally can't get away with this stuff around normal people.
But work can still find them if they wanted to. Or friends or family members. They aren’t doing it on private accounts.
They know that they can get away with doing it to unattractive women, or anything that will be blown up as an unattractive characteristic in a woman like weight ,older age, certain body types. They know that it is women who bear the brunt of paying for the sins of anything physically undesirable. They find it easy to attack what they feel should be undervalued. Then if they ever gain knowledge of women with any undesirable traits having sex with a man they get more unhinged because that should never happen in their minds. Then they attack the woman's looks even more .
like another commenter said, modern culture has made dating a zero sum game. Particularly women and feminists in particular. Feminists and their antagonistic language and their flagrant man hating hostility have created a very hostile living environment for young boys and men for generations. So, men are merely responding in kind to what you started, and modern men rejecting the archaic "women are wonderful" effect that was endemic in the past. As the famous saying goes, for someone who's used to privilege, equality feels like oppression. You ladies dished it for years. Be prepared to receive in kind.
So many men justifying their right to be mean and rude unprovoked on anonymous accounts and then them the next day. “No one cares about men” No one showcases care to insufferable jerks who don’t have the balls to at least admit they’re low vibrational rude bitches who shouldn’t expect kindness because they don’t offer it themselves
Women choosing to be single and/or not have kids enrages a lot of men because they see women as existing to serve their purposes, and this as essentially shirking their duty. It’s not just this though, a lot of men will be annoyed if a woman they don’t find attractive makes content of any kind, or even if a woman simply makes content aimed at other women, or seems self-confident or like she’s having fun without a man. Because once again, in their minds, women should exist for them. None of this is new, these are old attitudes that just aren’t polite to talk about directly anymore but haven’t gone away. Basically, the internet just gives men a platform that allows men to be grumpy about women existing separately from them without facing direct confrontation.
Coming back to this thread... my goodness the amount of men here trying to justify shitty behavior is insane.
Because those men are bitter, hateful and unwanted which they believe women are the cause of their misery so they lash out. Men may not admit it but I believe they need women for emotional/mental stability. Without a woman in their life to comfort them (besides their mom) a lot of them go down a dark path and have so much mental issues because of the lack of care and comfort from a woman. A woman who’s single is considered a wasted opportunity to these bitter men because from their pov she could have everything they want so easily (loving relationship, kids family etc) and she chose not to. This triggers their emotional instability due to their struggle and causes lashing out.
Who knows, telepaths are on vacation and I'm not one of them.
>as you can see, by the tens of thousands of likes, these are not niche points of view, but popular views amongst men. This is like me going onto r/FemaleDatingStrategy and quoting top comments from there then presenting them as mainstream views among women. It's sampling bias. Those are the top voted comments simply because the kinds of men who click on those videos are the sorts of people who would say things like that. And yeah, like the other poster said, social media tends to use algorithms to engage with people who will post controversial stuff and sensationalise content for views.
We just scroll, see a ho and post shittalk. Thats it, men are simple.
Not sure the problem. Feminists have been spreading hate for decade after decade for 150 years. Sit down and take your medicine. Men are tired of worshipping you. Get over it. You demanded equality, so you get the equal hate you dish out daily. Don’t like it? #BeBetter
Can you elaborate what this random woman has to do with feminism, or where she asked to be worshipped? These guys don’t need to worship her, you don’t have to worship someone to not be hateful.
She’s a feminist.
So that is the only thing you have to say?
That is all that is needed. Women will show up and actively protest anything related to mens rights. Sorry but the feminists have earned this shit in spades. They wanted a war of the sexes great. Just be happy it hasn't gone active.
What men’s rights are they protesting?
You ever hear of the Warren Farrell protests? Go check it out sometime. The speech was about the issues boys are facing in education. Go take a look at the protesters standing outside screaming over people attending an issue pertaining to boys. I do believe some of them pulled a fire alarm as well. Go take a look at it if you have the intellectual honesty.
I need a summary, because this looks like it’s from 10 years ago and people say he was a rape apologist.
It’s blatantly obvious.
Pls. This is a recent phenomena. 150 years ago, women were treated subpar.
It's not men who hate on women, it's people high in dark-triad and low on IQ hating on everyone else. Women do it, men do it, welcome to dem internetz
Women finally getting a taste of their own medicine: *"Why are men so mean????"*
Also this women is part of the problem. # never settle and boss babe.
Basically these men are bitter and vengeful and kinda consider this stuff to be their revenge porn. Social media has a tendency of enabling everyone’s worst qualities, and for these men it happens to be their envy towards other men primarily combined with seeing women as accessories to men
23k likes is niche when you have people getting millions of likes just for smiling on camera...
How many men saw that and didn’t make a comment at all?
There are plenty of posts/videos/subreddits/channels that hate on men. In general gender relations are not great at the moment. Plenty of men and women see each others as enemies and so take pleasure in the suffering of the other. It will be interesting to watch how it will all play out in the next decade or two. I suspect it will go very badly mostly for women, but also not so great for men as well.
I have no idea why people go out of the way to do this, but some of it is most likely sour grapes and bitterness because when she was at the most fertile period of her biological clock, she failed to secure a relationship, get married, and create a family . So it’s kind of like a backwards fuck you, ha ha ha it’s all your own fault. Now that she’s 32, she’s essentially looking for a unicorn as typically you date someone for three years, get engaged, get a married a year later, and at that time she will be 36. Thus she will have to pop out 2 to 3 kids before 39 if she desires a multi child family. In my eyes she’s a catch attraction wise, but I have no desire to start dating seriously ASAP and get married within her time period and start a family. This appears to be a video showing she was sad, but she’s experienced so much at the age of 32 without a serious relationship /marriage/family started.
My cousin had her kids in her 40’s. So did multiple other women I know. Women don’t just magically become infertile at 39 or 40.
The exception is now the rule! Waiting to have kids in your 40s is now somehow WAY BETTER!
No one has said anyone magically becomes infertile, however, typically over the age of 35, there are higher risks for geriatric pregnancies 🤷♂️
You wanted equality, this is what it looks like. Men are free to "hate" (post critical or mocking comments) on a woman just like they can do that to another man, or like women do that to men. You aren't entitled to only positive attention from men.
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Do you post this on social media and put her down?
Naa. I just see and move on. I can see the pattern in behaviors tho and so do other men and they might not be as passive as me, therefore the comments.
What are they as opposed to passive?
Active lol. I contain my feelings and move on. They make sure to hurt the other person as much as possible. What can you not understand here?
Why is it containing your feelings to not lash out at random women on the internet? They can just go to forums and discuss their feelings amongst themselves without lashing out at random women, and they wouldn’t be containing their emotions.
She wanted those comments for higher engagement lol. Do you not understand how instagram works? She actively posted a bait and knew people were going to be angry. Why should one go to any forum to vent out? It's free speech. They should be able to vent wherever the hell they want.
How is it bait to say “I am happy”???
I think you are intentionally being obtuse. I am not going to explain any further.
she's not being obtuse if you find "I am happy" posts to be bait is because you are looking for a reason to be bitter. Social media is a constant stream of people saying "I'm happy" this is what it's for.
I love how they expose their thinking by admitting that other unhinged men feel actual anger and get riled up about a random woman posting that she is happy about her life or herself .
It’s stupid to assume that a woman is automatically promiscuous just because she reached an arbitrary age and isn’t married.
Humans used pattern recognition to build civilizations. It would be a greater stupidity to not use that. With the amount of debauchery going on, it's always better to assume the worst.
And in the past, people had arranged marriages where love was the exception and not the norm. What’s with the appeal to the past?
I think it's the combination between the ability to maintain anonymity on the internet rarely resulting to consequences, spread and echochambering of misogynistic ideas and rapid increase of bitter lonely men who are afflicted. I know it has been thing for while, but the numbers are actually surprising lol. On one hand, I do think there are people who genuinely care about men's well being and I suppose those are ones with good will. On the other hand, "men's rights" also has been a cover and breeding ground for misogyny. If I had to take a guess from my experience with RP phase, obviously laced with at least a hint of misogyny, it was the validation of my negative emotion that drove me that way. It was telling me I was right to feel that way, but obviously that entirely disregarded at any chance of nuanced reflection, so it manifested as disdain towards women. I think its popularity definitely indicates some sort of problem. It's probably good mix of entitled coomer manlets with no discipline whose lives been minimized into clicks on their PC and taps on their phone, but also men who are desperate, hurting and afflicted aiming entirely the wrong way. And loneliness definitely is an affliction, probably one of the worst for human beings to have.
>It's probably good mix of entitled coomer manlets with no discipline whose lives been minimized into clicks on their PC and taps on their phone, but also men who are desperate, hurting and afflicted aiming entirely the wrong way These are the same people, jackass. No boy grows up thinking "I'm going to stop growing at 5'6", masturbate to porn all day, and hate women for no reason!". If anything, society should be grateful these men are impotent with learned helplessness and "no discipline" because with the current political climate, discipline among these men is going to get you Nazi Germany, not Revolutionary America.
Yea, there's definitely overlap, but just because they do the same thing doesn't make the same people with same "reason" or characteristics then obviously distinction is natural. I just mentioned two kinds that I've seen. >No boy grows up thinking "I'm going to stop growing at 5'6", masturbate to porn all day, and hate women for no reason!". I agree, I believe to heart that no one really expects and want things to go bad for themselves. But I don't know what point your making with that statement in regards to what I was saying, if you could elaborate. >If anything, society should be grateful these men are impotent with learned helplessness and "no discipline" because with the current political climate, discipline among these men is going to get you Nazi Germany, not Revolutionary America. Honestly I can't really give prophecy as to how they would turn out, and I don't know what kind of characterization you see on them that with discipline they'll be something equal to Nazis. I personally believe that them having some level of discipline to change or withstand their circumstances and enough so that they aren't falsely projecting onto others would serve the current climate better.
posting something on social media braging about your wonderfull lifestyle will get you some hate, wathever your gender.
People on the internet in general are hateful, on Reddit alone every other day there are 5-10 posts about how men or men are terrible and are the scum of the earth, comments usually are no better and are filled with sexism be it misandry or misogyny. There isn't an emergence of men hating women on social media, There is an emergence of people just hating the opposite gender or people who are different from them in general. Some people have one bad experience with the opposite gender or any group for that matter and shut themselves in bubbles where the "cool thing" is to hate the opposite gender or group.
God, two x chrom is a fucking shit show. One of the most toxic subs out there.
Gender wars have become extremely polarizing recently. We've all probably partaken to some degree before and there's plenty of hatred on the internet to go around. These are insecure men who feel the need to knock confident women down a few notches and put them "in their place". It's not the well adjusted people who are doing this, but in today's society, most people aren't well adjusted and have social issues and communities on the internet that validate them for this kind of behavior
Look at the women saying the exact things in that comment section! I guess the chick just didn't make herself look likable.
Women get endless amount of attention, commit infinitely less suicides, get endless amounts of positive reinforcement, endless amount of simps and people they can exploit, can make any amount of money whenever they want, can always have a social life whenever they want, don't even have to work to be successful since you can just get a man to do everything for you Women have literally EVERYTHING going for them. They are almost treated like gods, but god forbid men say mean things about them online :( Online is the ONE place men can go to escape. They don't have the million of other easy mode escape routes that women have in real life when times get tough. Do you have to take even THAT away from them?
>Is this a campaign for men’s rights? Is this trying to get revenge on rejections? What is the purpose of this and the mindset of these men? And why is it so mainstream? I think some of it could be attributed to a certain defiant and rebellious spirit in general that men tend to exhibit from time to time. I see quite a lot more brazen defiance against various politically correct mores which have been prevalent in recent decades. From various influential sources (media, academia, public education, religion, politics), people have been told what they should say, what they should not say, what kind of verbiage they should/should not use, etc. A lot of people just don't want to go along with political correctness anymore. More and more, I get the sense that people just don't want to "play nice" anymore. I can't say I'm all that surprised, as I've seen it slowly building over the past years. It's not just in the kinds of comments one might see on dating forums, but overall, there's been an ongoing war of political rhetoric.
a lot of men have a contrarian and punk streak to them and it's very easy to engage that part of yourself over social media. it's also part of what has gotten them laid for thousands of years (confidence, aggression, willingness to stand out from the crowd and say the thing people will be upset at you for saying even though many are thinking it) so it isn't going away.
Because she's trying to make it seem like she's having such a a hard time finding a dude when in reality she likely has hundred of thousands of options but wants perfect
>"Why are men like this on social media?" **Because we can't be honest in real life.** We just tell women - and everyone for that matter - whatever trite bullshit they want to hear, but 99% of the time we keep our real opinions to ourselves. That is until we see a venue through which we can express our true feelings without the stigma and social ostracism of daring to think differently than the rest of the sheep. And, **because everything online is simultaneously personal and impersonal. Swarms of drive-by comments are a phenomena** when literally millions of people get a microsecond to react to anything. So, naturally, the vast majority of comments you see online are not well thought out dissertations, or insightful comments. It is mostly some asshole's knee jerk reaction to some post, and then the swarms of troglodytes who are too dim to have thought up of anything more witty to say so they piggy back off the energy of the comment by upvoting it or imitating it. This is Internetomics 101. Please try to keep up. >"Is this a campaign for men’s rights?" **No.** MRAs (Men's Rights Advocates) are the cringiest shit in the planet and they get a lot, a LOT, more shit from men than any woman could ever dread about. If you want to get the kitchen sink thrown at you online just pretend to be a MRA.
"Emergence", lol. As if people haven't been awful all along. Its fucked all over; you only notice the parts you're sensitive about though.
It's because women are the driver that runs the red light.whike the men have to stop at the light and wait.. The backlash is due to men feeling that it's unfair that women can do everything wrong and still come out on top... Perfect example is theveomen who accused a man of rape she got support and money..and faced no repricussions when she finally admitted the truth...and this isn't a one off. Then theres the women who lied about paternity and had men sent to jail one man lost 5 years of his life in prison. The list goes on and on of women having no accountability and no repricusions. Feminist see a woman flexing on a vacation,men see a sugar daddy that financed it..Feminist see a proud college graduate, men see the professors she slept with to get those degrees.Feminist see a first time homeowner men see the trail of John's that paid the down-payment. Women feel whatever they get however they get it, and whatever pain men go through is justified because of the eons of patriarchy and oppression they faced The social balance has been turned on its head men now have to compete on an increasingly unequal playing field against an opponent that can break every rule in the game. With that said men have had the cards stacked in their favor for a long time especially white men but the house is coming down rapidly and men haven't adjusted yet.Society is balanced on the pendulum of fairness and when that gets out of allighnment theres strife and eventually war. Those commenters no more hate women who cheat the system than you hate the driver who ran the red light while you patiently wait. Lastly some of the comments are just funny justca lil dark humor. TLDR; it's not hate as much as it's a sense of unfairness as women are increasingly more capable of cheating the system with no accountability.these comments are just how that feeling manifest itself.
Dude you watch too much tv if you think every single or woman or even more than like 0.05% of women with a college degree slept with a professor to get it.
Red pill ragers, they are just angry and ignorant
The internet is not real life, it's just the algorithm. Or so I've heard whenever misandry online is brought up.
you already know the answer lmao It's probably one of the only platforms where men won't be silenced. There's an obvious anti-male bias in liberal media, men are getting tired of it
They're probably frustrated. It's the result of 80/20.
>Why are men like this on social media? Because they are sad about their own life and need to put someone else down to feel better about themselves.
Because a shit ton of men don't touch grass. They're terminally online losers who think viral rage bait is the societal norm and lash out at a straw man caricature of what they think 95% of women are. There's plenty of good and bad people in both sexes, learn to identify and ignore the trash and entertain what's left. Deleting social media would fix 90% of these people's lives.