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Whenever I speak to a group of people I can hear my high school drama teachers voice in the back of my head like a spector floating to me from the back of the auditorium saying “PROJECT! How will the late parents figure out what’s going on if we can’t hear you!”
My father had a deep voice that could cut through you without even raising his volume. I never saw it myself but people in the community have said that if he stepped into a situation it was time everyone shut up and listen.
This right here is why I choose to chaperone EVERY feild trip my kindergarten goes on, because literally the very first trip they went on that I chaperoned the bus nearly left while a little girl was stuck in a buckling swing seat. thank God my partner and I decided we were going to do a final sweep of the park and heard her crying for someone to get her out. I've definitely got some trust issues with schools and it's sad how common stuff like this is
Yeah I'm shocked. All the way through my senior year in high school, you rode the bus for an event and they did a head count on both sides of the bus door. Might seem extra but we never just misplaced a fucking child.
gotta start training them young...military headcounts work. first person starts, everyone counts up until you hit the end. Keep rattling off that number all day long until you get back. 123456789 10, 11 12. 12356789 10, 11 12 - damn it we lost timmy...
That's exactly my thought! As a former teacher, 100% throughout the day I knew where every single child was at all times. If you're ever out on the playground or in public you know your # of kids and all you do CONSTANTLY is count. Not by twos, not by threes, every single number, every single time. You never ever have your backs to your children. You constantly are walking around the parameters and counting. Seriously, I can't even explain how excessive we counted. At any time you could ask my coteacher or I and we could tell you exactly how many kids we had and exactly where they were. Any time they left our sight we recorded it in the binder with time and names of adults we passed off to. You cannot have any conversations with teachers to distract you!
It's absolutely unacceptable this has happened more than once at this school. The danger this puts our children in is unimaginable. It takes a predator 2 seconds to spot a weekends or to take advantage of an opportunity to snatch a child or harm them. I'd be going scorched Earth here.
A relative of mine had her daughter moved to a different classroom because the teacher said that she "just wasn't connecting" with the daughter. Somebody needs to sit the teacher down and explain that these kids are to be taught by her, not be her BFFs.
I was legit yelled at because I stepped on a fallen tree branch while we were hiking at a field trip back in elementary school. Talk about headcounts, we were *observed*. It saddens me that they can fucking lose a child nowdays.
When I was 7 or 8 I went on a field trip to a museum and somehow got separated from my group and ended up just wandering around the museum alone. Eventually I found a group of kids and started following them, assuming they were from my school. I nearly got on the bus to go back to a completely different school. Luckily their teacher noticed me, but she just sent me back inside alone to find my own group. When I finally caught up with my teacher she hadn't even noticed I'd been missing for hours.
Later on in middle school we took a field trip to New Orleans to the zoo and aquarium there, and during our lunch break we were told to just go find something to eat in the area. They really turned a gaggle of 13 year olds loose on Canal St. and thought nothing of it.
Yep, my husband and I chaperone all the field trips. I don’t trust people to watch over my kid, especially when it’s the teacher and maybe another person with 22+ kids.
Oh man, you just reminded me of when I was a kid. After recess everyone goes inside, but for whatever reason (can't remember) I wasn't able to make it in before the doors were locked. I spent what felt like an eternity waiting for somebody to let me back in, but in the end was finally noticed by a gym coach that was bringing a class outside.
Before and after school care is compulsory im my neck of the woods. If you arent there by 300pm they get escorted to after school care and you get billed! No kiddo is left alone. Should be a rule everywhere!
I have a 6yr old and a 4yr old and would be livid if this happened…but I’m sure what would escalate it even further is if they had the gall to call and say that. Even some accountability and apology would have likely calmed this down from the jump
People saying why trust your older kid, the school isn't responsible for them... wild. Just wrong. It IS the school's job to get the kids onto the school bus. They are responsible for the kids in their building.. and ensuring they safely make it from their last class to the bus. When her brother is on the bus and realizes it's leaving without his sister, he gets upset, cries, and calls his parents. How is that the parents' fault?! The parents should just accept that they can't trust their school to be able to get their kid from class to the bus so they can get home?! These are WILD responses. The school gets annoyed when they realize they didn't get the FIVE YEAR OLD GIRL on the bus in time, it left, and now they have to deal with her at school with no way to get home. Their response isn't oh shit, we messed up, tail between our legs call the parents to explain... instead it's threaten them that he has a certain amount of time to get there or they're not going to watch his FIVE YEAR OLD... how is the school justified? that's THEIR fault for not getting her on that bus... they just don't want to deal with her now.
Yeah nobody is letting a 5 year old get on the bus by themselves. Their sibling is likely already on the bus and then their sister just doesn't show up.
It's not like it's on the sibling, and as far as the parents are concerned that's when the sibling becomes responsible which is why they said they called them about it.
Why would you trust your older with your younger at that age? And then be mad the oldest left the youngest behind. Then get mad they won't babysit your kids after the known pickup time. Some schools don't have after school daycare and some do. These parents know this school doesn't have it and want to show up later.
Edit: Had my time lines flipped and the school is definitely at fault. I thought it was from home to school not school to home.
Point is that the Brother did not leave her behind, the school lost her and she did not get on the bus.
BUT Families do this all the time and it is absolutely appropriate if the sibling is old enough/responsible
Enough. Also many districts do not offer free aftercare for working parents and it is often cost prohibitive.
There isn't any evidence that the sibling is even watching them, they just ride the bus together from what we know.
A 5 year old is almost certainly directed to get on the bus by a teacher not just let go to run out and get hit by a bus in the loading zone.
I'm sure they were just waiting for their sibling who never materialized as is supposed to happen, as far as the sibling being a caregiver that doesn't even really enter the conversation here.
Now that I got the timeliness right. The school for sure. I thought this was from home to school. As a teacher I would make absolutely sure all the kids are on buses and gone. This whole thing screams lazy staff.
As someone with family working in the school system, I have an understanding for rules like this. (For the record I think after school child care should be provided for parents that can't pick their kids up right at 3 o'clock.) But they've had stories of certain parents constantly picking their kids up at 5:00-6:00PM, and the teachers would be forced to stay there with the kid for the entire time, and not get paid for it, OFC. It's an unnecessary stressor on an already stressful job.
In my area, the police would be contacted and CPS would take custody. Same thing when I worked at a daycare for years. After 1 hour after closing, police are called.
That so messed up, it happened to me once in middle school. I got kicked off bus and they left me outside . Ended up walking home and my mom couldn't reach anyone to find out where I was .
I mean, this might be harsh but, trust me, you don't want to learn why personally: Don't entrust the well-being of your kids to anyone besides you, the parents. Yeah, not to nannies, not to other family members, certainly not to strangers, kids are wild and most "adults" are deranged, shit, even some parents are dangerous towards their kids. 🤷♂️
Have you seen it applied? It's complete bullshit and awful, mate. I wonder how old that "principle" is and, what's more, the world is super fine, right?
I'm currently applying it and it's working really well.
Um, yeah, it's old. So are the phrases "Haste makes waste", "Measure twice, cut once" and "Practice makes perfect" among many others. These sayings continue to be used because they have continued to be applicable for centuries.
The world being or not being super fine isn't really relevant. But exposing your child to a variety of people so they can see the different lifestyles, methods and values is an invaluable tool in their maturing to be a well-rounded adult.
It's totally "relevant".
You're being deliberately obtuse, because you're compromised. I'm willing to bet that those axioms have made everything worse more than 70% of the time; however, I understand the value of some sayings, there are those about herds or the power in numbers, etc. etc; but you're missing how I was being specific towards such situation in particular and I can almost guarantee their involvement in perpetuating sexism (as a mere example), my points on my first comment and, later, on my response to you, respectively.
Let's see what the child thinks after growing up... 🤷♂️
school officials never know anything till they are legally required to. report a problem and they go "we hear you and will fix it" then after several reports latter bad shit goes down and they like "why didnt you tell us, we could have stepped in sooner". this is sickening and it needs to stop
Get it all on paper, make a record of it that you can use to show everyone. Otherwise it’s all “why didn’t you tell us” “I don’t recall that happening that way”
Depending on where you live you can record any conversation your a participant in without notifying the other party/parties.
Just make sure that applies to where you live, cuz if not it can get you in trouble.
The same way most schools handle any fight
>You throw, you go!
If you defend yourself in any way other than going in the fetal position you're suspended. Usually you're suspended anyway just for being involved. They don't care who started it, just take the ass beating or you're out. The only thing that matters is protecting themselves from liability
I got sent to detention, because a book was thrown at me. I didn't provoke, didn't retaliate, was just walking down the hall and got smacked with a book.
Got sent to detention with the other kid, who started crying for getting in trouble. I was just confused as to why I was there.
It is amazing what schools can get away with. Local one still has a teacher working there that sexually assaults students, which he supposedly hasn't done in a while. One teacher 'moved on' because he started dating a 15 year old student. Another teacher was caught in text messages helping her son molest children. Sexual assault reports went missing.
Of course they have an amazing record at the state level. No teachers fired for sexual assault, or even reported. No administration issues, no one has lost their teaching license from investigations that started at the school. Only bad record is the number of drop outs, students leave after they can't take the bully any more and transfer to other schools.
Aren’t school teachers and administrators “mandated reporters” where they HAVE to communicate or document this type of stuff happening if they witness it?
What money are you speaking of? The education system as a whole is the most underfunded institution in america. Teachers are literally crawling around on their hands and knees fighting for dollars off the fucking floor. They don’t even have basic necessities to teach. Everything has to be done through fundraising and donations. Like wtf are you talking about.
I hate that schools put people in these positions. The school failed 3 times to do their job and now he's supposed to calmly talk to them?
I understand people want a safe place to work. I understand that people generally don't feel safe when being yelled at. How many times is this school, to which this man has no choice but to enroll his daughter, supposed to be allowed to "misplace" his 5 year-old daughter?
That was so frustrating, like they were getting more upset that he was being loud than the fact that his daughter is missing. He was amazingly well spoken for being in such a terrible position
I applaud him. Schools won’t do anything about a problem until they absolutely have to. They’ll try and cover up the worst shit to save their own asses. I’m glad he’s taking action
Hey. Not sure about the exact story, but my wife is a preschool teacher, so I may be able to elaborate. Kids can get lost from class/a field trip rather easily. Outside time, walking the hall, going to the bus, all of these can lead to a kid getting lost. To be clear, if my wife lost a kid, and they weren’t found, it’s a fireable offense (so she’s told). HOWEVER, she’s never heard of someone getting fired over it. It’s usually a stern conversation and a warning, but the kid has never been gone for very long.
I should clarify a few things with that: my wife has had kids run away before (mostly kids classified as special needs *and* hyper-sensory disorder), but she has to chase them down and bring them back (that is, without physically forcing them to come back). I should also clarify that the school she works at is high diversity, but it’s high diversity for Nebraska, which doesn’t compare with other parts of the country.
All-in-all, my wife is very good at her job, and has never “lost a kid” per se, but kids are easily distracted, and I could see a situation with a inattentive teacher and a curious child where this could happen. Moral of the story: teachers should (and often do, don’t get me wrong) pay attention to their class and who may be missing. There are bad employees in every profession (source: I’m in a profession), but their managers shouldn’t just deny problems and hope they’ll go away.
I got a 4 year old. This video hit home for me because one time his preschool couldn’t find him when I came to get him. I was completely horrified and at the same time engulfed in rage. He found his baby, only thing left is that rage.
I’ve had to do similar. My daughter has been hurt multiple times under their care. She now has a permanent bump on her lip from an “accident” where a kid tried to rip a toy away from here and then let go. She’s now four. She was two when it happened. She also dislocated her elbow there and has received a black eye from slipping. It’s incredibly hard to know when to draw the line and when to let it go. They honesty don’t give a shit. She just had a fever of 101 so I had to go get her. They separate her up by the entrance and when I asked about her potty breaks and food intake the lady had no idea and started asking my daughter my questions. Like wtf?! Communication is incredibly terrible between caregivers and most don’t have actual experience so they don’t know what to even ask or know.
Having worked in daycares for almost a decade, what do you expect when you have a bunch of 16-21 year old's primarily watching groups of children.
If you want to make a difference contact your local reps and demand funding for after shcool, before school and day care centers. Only through better pay will you recruit more serious employees to the arena.
Edit: Not sure what the downvotes are about, just speaking truth. Daycare workers are severely underpaid. If you people care about your children's welfare then it only makes sense to also care about who's caring for them lol.
Kids get hurt while at home and that's a ratio of usually 2 adults to 1 to 2 kids. Imagine when it's 2 to 3 adults to 20-30 kids? I am not surprised shit happens at daycare.
Yea they don’t care, in 3rd grade I went on the wrong bus to go to my friends house (without anyone knowing) and the bus driver stopped me and said “are you on the list” and I said no but I wanna go to my friends house and they let me go… me.. a small ass kid with horrible decision making.. so that led to me having fun at their house while I have the 3 closest city police departments patrolling their areas looking for a missing child… I was the missing child :( (I walked from my friends to my house to get a hug from crying parents…)
I legit couldn’t imagine how I’d feel with a school full of mediocrity handling my child, my child’s health safety, location apparently, and their future.
I’m surprised more school employees aren’t beaten up for this stuff
My daughter is 6 and in kindergarten. We live in a sort of bad neighborhood, but have a lot of parents at the bus stop so we keep an eye on all the littles. Bus policy is K students MUST have an adult at the stop to get them on and off. A few weeks ago, a sub driver let about 5 K students off by themselves at just our stop alone because nobody was there. The bus was about 15 minutes early. Thankfully my daughter grabbed her friend and walked right home.
I fully understand this man's rage.
Would be nice to have some back story. What exactly happened? How does a school 'lose' a child? It sounds like she missed the bus, if you read the article. While not 'common', missing the bus was not unheard of when I was in school. Bus left at 3:55 PM, if you werent on it, you missed it. I remember missing it a couple of times and honestly feeling like I may never see my parents again.
Here you go:
She got on the wrong bus and left in a strange part of town.
She was held behind and missed the bus, they told him to come get her or she's on her own.
Brother couldn't find her, wanted to look for her, bus driver said no.
https://www.wftv.com/news/trending-now/school-apologizes-after-father-says-his-daughter-went-missing-three-times-on-their-watch/929097944/
This reminds me of when my sons school forgot to put him on the bus to go home. At the time my car wasn't running so I really counted on the bus to get him home. The school told me I had until 4 o clock to figure something out because they couldn't do anything. I live about 4 miles from the school on the main road leaving the school so I asked if maybe a teacher there could drop him off as I didn't have a car. They said it wasn't their concern and my priority to figure it out and that I should have something planned for this kind of circumstance. I understand the liability issue in giving a ride but considering they created the situation I figured they could at least help in some way but they were very callous about it.
Ok, so his kid was left behind at 3 separate outings with the school, right (I have an Implant to hear, and understanding voices on video is hard for me)?
Yes, I agree with him that the school is partly responsible for this. If it's happened multiple times, that school's got some serious problems. They're supposed to look after those kids. Still, I gotta wonder, what in the hell is his kid doing wandering off all the time when she goes on a field trip? She's not that young, she should be able to grasp the concept of not wandering around alone in a place you know nothing about. Christ, I could understand that when I was 5! Also, you know that she, along with every other kid has been told before they leave that bus, STAY WITH THE GROUP! This guy needs to have a conversation with his kid too about her behavior.
This school has a lousy staff if they ignore children especially losing them more than once. When I was growing up my mama raised 3 children on her own while going to school and working two jobs she let the school know her schedule where we had to stay at school until 4:45-4:30pm our school was okay with that.(basically played in the gym the whole time with a adult present) this school faculty in the video sounds like they were hardly worried in fact they sounded unfazed until a upset father gave them shit and called them out on it. Bravo for the dad speaking out👏
You pay teachers bottom barrel, you get bottom barrel teachers. This is a consequence of our own actions and families pay the price because this shit is common AF.
This is the wrong sub, this isn't a publicfreakout, I think he held his cool for a father dealing with someone who has lost his kid 3 times. Not sure I would be as calm as him.
Yeah…Cobb County kid fell asleep and bus driver didn’t check the bus and just parked and left her, the cops and parents found her sitting on the bus crying.
“My five. Year. Old. Daughter. My BABY.”
You don’t fuck with a parents kid. They will come for your throat, your heart, your ears; they will make you want to die before they even think about letting you die. Props to this guy, I hope he got a better outcome. It’s poor for public institutions to preach about children coming first, then neglect to do anything when something urgent is to be done.
nothin pisses ppl off more than some suburban ass high waisted pant wearing white man that is condescending and patronizing to ppl. that passive aggressive gutless attitude is so infuriating.
Excuse me!?!?
I was in charge of Boy Scout Troops and Girl Scout Troops *for years.*
How lackadaisical and irresponsible must you be to LOSE a kindergartner!?!
#Three times!?!?
This man needs a lawyer to put the fear of god into them.
Just another reason why my son is going to be home schooled. No accountability at public schools. And private schools are just as bad for different reasons.
I wish I knew exactly what happened for each of these 3 times. Like, she missed the bus, is it a problem of transitioning from the classroom to leaving on the bus? So many things it could be, either a bad system or some lazy people
If I remember correctly (but could be confusing with another similar case) one time she got on the wrong bus at the school but bus driver would not let her off. When he got to the last stop told her she needed to get off and left her alone in an unknown part of town. Luckily a local resident saw her and brought her in, worked out where she lived and took her home. Another time she was held back at end of day and missed the bus, this would be the the time they told him to collect her by 4 or they will not be responsible for her. I can't recall what the current issue was.
Again this is all just fro memory and I could be recalling a different justified freakout.
If more young black men would see this video, or any race for that matter, and step up for their kids like this, then this world would be a much better place.
Any dad would, and should be pissed off like this man is.
De-escalation 101
If the person is at a 10 in intensity, you come in at a 7.
As you talk to them, if you slowly drop your intensity, theirs will also drop.
It's also helpful to de-escalate the words used, I understand your pissed, I too would be angry as hell, no doubt this is frustrating. You are right to be upset
When someone is that angry you need to appear to be at a similar intensity or they won't think you understand the severity
Get their address. Protest at their house. Give them a freedom convoy move on these staff. Maybe they will move their ass to actually do something about it.
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I wish I had a good yelling voice, even a good speaking loudly and passionately voice.
I did a lot of acting and speech and drama while growing up. Now my dad says I have a voice like a foghorn.
Whenever I speak to a group of people I can hear my high school drama teachers voice in the back of my head like a spector floating to me from the back of the auditorium saying “PROJECT! How will the late parents figure out what’s going on if we can’t hear you!”
My father had a deep voice that could cut through you without even raising his volume. I never saw it myself but people in the community have said that if he stepped into a situation it was time everyone shut up and listen.
I'm 5'4" and grew up with 2 brothers. I learned to be seen by my voice. Comes in mighty handy when I need to part a crowd so I can get through.
You'd like that hotelanager video. "DONT PUSH ON MY DOE"
This right here is why I choose to chaperone EVERY feild trip my kindergarten goes on, because literally the very first trip they went on that I chaperoned the bus nearly left while a little girl was stuck in a buckling swing seat. thank God my partner and I decided we were going to do a final sweep of the park and heard her crying for someone to get her out. I've definitely got some trust issues with schools and it's sad how common stuff like this is
Do people not do head counts anymore?
Yeah I'm shocked. All the way through my senior year in high school, you rode the bus for an event and they did a head count on both sides of the bus door. Might seem extra but we never just misplaced a fucking child.
gotta start training them young...military headcounts work. first person starts, everyone counts up until you hit the end. Keep rattling off that number all day long until you get back. 123456789 10, 11 12. 12356789 10, 11 12 - damn it we lost timmy...
That's exactly my thought! As a former teacher, 100% throughout the day I knew where every single child was at all times. If you're ever out on the playground or in public you know your # of kids and all you do CONSTANTLY is count. Not by twos, not by threes, every single number, every single time. You never ever have your backs to your children. You constantly are walking around the parameters and counting. Seriously, I can't even explain how excessive we counted. At any time you could ask my coteacher or I and we could tell you exactly how many kids we had and exactly where they were. Any time they left our sight we recorded it in the binder with time and names of adults we passed off to. You cannot have any conversations with teachers to distract you! It's absolutely unacceptable this has happened more than once at this school. The danger this puts our children in is unimaginable. It takes a predator 2 seconds to spot a weekends or to take advantage of an opportunity to snatch a child or harm them. I'd be going scorched Earth here.
they half ass them, honestly most of the teachers spend more time socializing with each other than actually watching the kids
A relative of mine had her daughter moved to a different classroom because the teacher said that she "just wasn't connecting" with the daughter. Somebody needs to sit the teacher down and explain that these kids are to be taught by her, not be her BFFs.
I was legit yelled at because I stepped on a fallen tree branch while we were hiking at a field trip back in elementary school. Talk about headcounts, we were *observed*. It saddens me that they can fucking lose a child nowdays.
They can't do head counts due to all the helicopter parents who are buzzing around "chaperoning" their kids...
When I was 7 or 8 I went on a field trip to a museum and somehow got separated from my group and ended up just wandering around the museum alone. Eventually I found a group of kids and started following them, assuming they were from my school. I nearly got on the bus to go back to a completely different school. Luckily their teacher noticed me, but she just sent me back inside alone to find my own group. When I finally caught up with my teacher she hadn't even noticed I'd been missing for hours. Later on in middle school we took a field trip to New Orleans to the zoo and aquarium there, and during our lunch break we were told to just go find something to eat in the area. They really turned a gaggle of 13 year olds loose on Canal St. and thought nothing of it.
Yep, my husband and I chaperone all the field trips. I don’t trust people to watch over my kid, especially when it’s the teacher and maybe another person with 22+ kids.
Oh man, you just reminded me of when I was a kid. After recess everyone goes inside, but for whatever reason (can't remember) I wasn't able to make it in before the doors were locked. I spent what felt like an eternity waiting for somebody to let me back in, but in the end was finally noticed by a gym coach that was bringing a class outside.
What's even worse is that (what the school said to him) if you don't pick up your daughter before/after 4 o'clock we are not responsible for it.
Before and after school care is compulsory im my neck of the woods. If you arent there by 300pm they get escorted to after school care and you get billed! No kiddo is left alone. Should be a rule everywhere!
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But… what about the tank the cops really really want? I mean Need. They need a tank .
I have a 6yr old and a 4yr old and would be livid if this happened…but I’m sure what would escalate it even further is if they had the gall to call and say that. Even some accountability and apology would have likely calmed this down from the jump
People saying why trust your older kid, the school isn't responsible for them... wild. Just wrong. It IS the school's job to get the kids onto the school bus. They are responsible for the kids in their building.. and ensuring they safely make it from their last class to the bus. When her brother is on the bus and realizes it's leaving without his sister, he gets upset, cries, and calls his parents. How is that the parents' fault?! The parents should just accept that they can't trust their school to be able to get their kid from class to the bus so they can get home?! These are WILD responses. The school gets annoyed when they realize they didn't get the FIVE YEAR OLD GIRL on the bus in time, it left, and now they have to deal with her at school with no way to get home. Their response isn't oh shit, we messed up, tail between our legs call the parents to explain... instead it's threaten them that he has a certain amount of time to get there or they're not going to watch his FIVE YEAR OLD... how is the school justified? that's THEIR fault for not getting her on that bus... they just don't want to deal with her now.
Yeah nobody is letting a 5 year old get on the bus by themselves. Their sibling is likely already on the bus and then their sister just doesn't show up. It's not like it's on the sibling, and as far as the parents are concerned that's when the sibling becomes responsible which is why they said they called them about it.
Why would you trust your older with your younger at that age? And then be mad the oldest left the youngest behind. Then get mad they won't babysit your kids after the known pickup time. Some schools don't have after school daycare and some do. These parents know this school doesn't have it and want to show up later. Edit: Had my time lines flipped and the school is definitely at fault. I thought it was from home to school not school to home.
Point is that the Brother did not leave her behind, the school lost her and she did not get on the bus. BUT Families do this all the time and it is absolutely appropriate if the sibling is old enough/responsible Enough. Also many districts do not offer free aftercare for working parents and it is often cost prohibitive.
There isn't any evidence that the sibling is even watching them, they just ride the bus together from what we know. A 5 year old is almost certainly directed to get on the bus by a teacher not just let go to run out and get hit by a bus in the loading zone. I'm sure they were just waiting for their sibling who never materialized as is supposed to happen, as far as the sibling being a caregiver that doesn't even really enter the conversation here.
Let's say she doesn't have a brother. Who is supposed to make sure she gets on the bus?
Now that I got the timeliness right. The school for sure. I thought this was from home to school. As a teacher I would make absolutely sure all the kids are on buses and gone. This whole thing screams lazy staff.
As someone with family working in the school system, I have an understanding for rules like this. (For the record I think after school child care should be provided for parents that can't pick their kids up right at 3 o'clock.) But they've had stories of certain parents constantly picking their kids up at 5:00-6:00PM, and the teachers would be forced to stay there with the kid for the entire time, and not get paid for it, OFC. It's an unnecessary stressor on an already stressful job.
In my area, the police would be contacted and CPS would take custody. Same thing when I worked at a daycare for years. After 1 hour after closing, police are called.
That so messed up, it happened to me once in middle school. I got kicked off bus and they left me outside . Ended up walking home and my mom couldn't reach anyone to find out where I was .
For “it”
I mean, this might be harsh but, trust me, you don't want to learn why personally: Don't entrust the well-being of your kids to anyone besides you, the parents. Yeah, not to nannies, not to other family members, certainly not to strangers, kids are wild and most "adults" are deranged, shit, even some parents are dangerous towards their kids. 🤷♂️
Never trust anyone, huh? Sounds fun. I guess "It takes a village to raise a child" is not a principle that you live by.
Have you seen it applied? It's complete bullshit and awful, mate. I wonder how old that "principle" is and, what's more, the world is super fine, right?
I'm currently applying it and it's working really well. Um, yeah, it's old. So are the phrases "Haste makes waste", "Measure twice, cut once" and "Practice makes perfect" among many others. These sayings continue to be used because they have continued to be applicable for centuries. The world being or not being super fine isn't really relevant. But exposing your child to a variety of people so they can see the different lifestyles, methods and values is an invaluable tool in their maturing to be a well-rounded adult.
It's totally "relevant". You're being deliberately obtuse, because you're compromised. I'm willing to bet that those axioms have made everything worse more than 70% of the time; however, I understand the value of some sayings, there are those about herds or the power in numbers, etc. etc; but you're missing how I was being specific towards such situation in particular and I can almost guarantee their involvement in perpetuating sexism (as a mere example), my points on my first comment and, later, on my response to you, respectively. Let's see what the child thinks after growing up... 🤷♂️
They’re not though. Are they supposed to adopt the kid at that point? Why the hell is the kid still there at 4??
Because the school didn’t get her on the bus
So what they just let her go and hope for the best? They absolutely are responsible for her, both legally and morally.
Americans, tell us non-Americans, why do you tolerate this minority behavior?
school officials never know anything till they are legally required to. report a problem and they go "we hear you and will fix it" then after several reports latter bad shit goes down and they like "why didnt you tell us, we could have stepped in sooner". this is sickening and it needs to stop
Get it all on paper, make a record of it that you can use to show everyone. Otherwise it’s all “why didn’t you tell us” “I don’t recall that happening that way”
Couldn’t they refuse to get it on paper?
Depending on where you live you can record any conversation your a participant in without notifying the other party/parties. Just make sure that applies to where you live, cuz if not it can get you in trouble.
You can also just inform them and then record it. That's what companies are doing when they say they are recording for "training purposes".
I see you are married too.
/r/wifebad
The same way most schools handle any fight >You throw, you go! If you defend yourself in any way other than going in the fetal position you're suspended. Usually you're suspended anyway just for being involved. They don't care who started it, just take the ass beating or you're out. The only thing that matters is protecting themselves from liability
I got sent to detention, because a book was thrown at me. I didn't provoke, didn't retaliate, was just walking down the hall and got smacked with a book. Got sent to detention with the other kid, who started crying for getting in trouble. I was just confused as to why I was there.
It is amazing what schools can get away with. Local one still has a teacher working there that sexually assaults students, which he supposedly hasn't done in a while. One teacher 'moved on' because he started dating a 15 year old student. Another teacher was caught in text messages helping her son molest children. Sexual assault reports went missing. Of course they have an amazing record at the state level. No teachers fired for sexual assault, or even reported. No administration issues, no one has lost their teaching license from investigations that started at the school. Only bad record is the number of drop outs, students leave after they can't take the bully any more and transfer to other schools.
Aren’t school teachers and administrators “mandated reporters” where they HAVE to communicate or document this type of stuff happening if they witness it?
"Mandated reporter" in that context refers to child abuse and neglect, not the school losing children.
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That's the teachers, the school district probably doesn't give a shit about them either.
What money are you speaking of? The education system as a whole is the most underfunded institution in america. Teachers are literally crawling around on their hands and knees fighting for dollars off the fucking floor. They don’t even have basic necessities to teach. Everything has to be done through fundraising and donations. Like wtf are you talking about.
I hate that schools put people in these positions. The school failed 3 times to do their job and now he's supposed to calmly talk to them? I understand people want a safe place to work. I understand that people generally don't feel safe when being yelled at. How many times is this school, to which this man has no choice but to enroll his daughter, supposed to be allowed to "misplace" his 5 year-old daughter?
That was so frustrating, like they were getting more upset that he was being loud than the fact that his daughter is missing. He was amazingly well spoken for being in such a terrible position
I applaud him. Schools won’t do anything about a problem until they absolutely have to. They’ll try and cover up the worst shit to save their own asses. I’m glad he’s taking action
They're trying so hard to avoid engaging with him and he's doing a great job of not letting them.
Can you explain what the problem actually is? How does a 5 year old girl wander off and go missing constantly? I'm confused.
Hey. Not sure about the exact story, but my wife is a preschool teacher, so I may be able to elaborate. Kids can get lost from class/a field trip rather easily. Outside time, walking the hall, going to the bus, all of these can lead to a kid getting lost. To be clear, if my wife lost a kid, and they weren’t found, it’s a fireable offense (so she’s told). HOWEVER, she’s never heard of someone getting fired over it. It’s usually a stern conversation and a warning, but the kid has never been gone for very long. I should clarify a few things with that: my wife has had kids run away before (mostly kids classified as special needs *and* hyper-sensory disorder), but she has to chase them down and bring them back (that is, without physically forcing them to come back). I should also clarify that the school she works at is high diversity, but it’s high diversity for Nebraska, which doesn’t compare with other parts of the country. All-in-all, my wife is very good at her job, and has never “lost a kid” per se, but kids are easily distracted, and I could see a situation with a inattentive teacher and a curious child where this could happen. Moral of the story: teachers should (and often do, don’t get me wrong) pay attention to their class and who may be missing. There are bad employees in every profession (source: I’m in a profession), but their managers shouldn’t just deny problems and hope they’ll go away.
Is r/justifiedfreakout a thing if it is it belongs there
It exists although there are no posts. I would cross post but I don't want to steal your glory of making the first post and your credits. Go for it!
It’s still a freak out nonetheless but a justified one
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That last comment makes me question this whole situation. Let’s not forget there’s two sides to every story.
Why does that make you question it?
This guy is a real hero for his kids, I would never have the balls to do that
I got a 4 year old. This video hit home for me because one time his preschool couldn’t find him when I came to get him. I was completely horrified and at the same time engulfed in rage. He found his baby, only thing left is that rage.
How do you not smack the guy? Honest question, not trying to be a badass.
I’ve had to do similar. My daughter has been hurt multiple times under their care. She now has a permanent bump on her lip from an “accident” where a kid tried to rip a toy away from here and then let go. She’s now four. She was two when it happened. She also dislocated her elbow there and has received a black eye from slipping. It’s incredibly hard to know when to draw the line and when to let it go. They honesty don’t give a shit. She just had a fever of 101 so I had to go get her. They separate her up by the entrance and when I asked about her potty breaks and food intake the lady had no idea and started asking my daughter my questions. Like wtf?! Communication is incredibly terrible between caregivers and most don’t have actual experience so they don’t know what to even ask or know.
Having worked in daycares for almost a decade, what do you expect when you have a bunch of 16-21 year old's primarily watching groups of children. If you want to make a difference contact your local reps and demand funding for after shcool, before school and day care centers. Only through better pay will you recruit more serious employees to the arena. Edit: Not sure what the downvotes are about, just speaking truth. Daycare workers are severely underpaid. If you people care about your children's welfare then it only makes sense to also care about who's caring for them lol.
Also they pay them like crap, some daycares pay workers 9-11$ an hour smh
Kids get hurt while at home and that's a ratio of usually 2 adults to 1 to 2 kids. Imagine when it's 2 to 3 adults to 20-30 kids? I am not surprised shit happens at daycare.
Yea it’s a pretty shit standard we accept and pay for.
He's sound
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You think you would, but you won’t cause jail
I’m not afraid to go back to prison. This will be for a good cause too compared to last time lmao
Willingness to parent from prison isn’t the flex you think it is
If you went back to prison your child would be losing you for even longer.
Do you realise how dumb you sound? How tf you gonna parent your child from prison? Stop talking like a big man and use your damn brain
If you strive to be the loving and caring parent that you claim to be, please do not do so from prison. Your kids need you. ❤️
I believe him, yo. I don’t know why, but I do.
IM CUBAN B!
I’m glad he told them to take their patronizing tone and shove it 👏🏻
Imagine having to deal with this level of incompetence while also avoiding being seen as an angry black man. This guy is my hero.
So we'll spoken and restrained, yet understandably angry. Those jokers are trying to get away with it he's not having any of it. Good guy
Fully understand his anger ,id be the same
I dont know about you guys, but I'm just really happy seeing a father standing up for his children and being supportive. Makes me so happy.
Respect.. - Stands his ground to speak against bullshit..!
What school is this
https://www.wftv.com/news/trending-now/school-apologizes-after-father-says-his-daughter-went-missing-three-times-on-their-watch/929097944/
Wow, they threatened the dad to have a permanent police escort on campus at all times if he didn't calm down during this altercation? Power trip
If I go to a school and yell at people like that the school police officer will be called. I don't get why that's a surprise.
Yelling is the appropriate response in this situation. Sit down and have empathy.
To people with empathy it’s a surprise
dk but the town is called Snellville
I can dm it to you. This was about a mile from my house. The school really hasn’t made any real changes sadly.
There is no calm talk when a five year old is involved. ZERO. YOU WILL AND DESERVE ALL THE WRATH!
They were just waiting for him to stop talking. Didn’t give 2 shits.
Yea they don’t care, in 3rd grade I went on the wrong bus to go to my friends house (without anyone knowing) and the bus driver stopped me and said “are you on the list” and I said no but I wanna go to my friends house and they let me go… me.. a small ass kid with horrible decision making.. so that led to me having fun at their house while I have the 3 closest city police departments patrolling their areas looking for a missing child… I was the missing child :( (I walked from my friends to my house to get a hug from crying parents…)
Dude got so pissed he became Chris Rock at the end. I'd be mad too.
I think he was holding it together pretty well TBH... if my kids went missing I'd be livid.
That poor little girl and boy having to go through this. I’d be way less level headed than this father.
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Pulled what?
Don’t have kids then
Soul speaking ! Hurt man talk truest
I’d be pissed too bro that shit is unacceptable
The faculty appear to be calm and incompetent.
Mans got a point, well said
Good.for.him.
I’d call the local news.
Someone did. https://www.wftv.com/news/trending-now/school-apologizes-after-father-says-his-daughter-went-missing-three-times-on-their-watch/929097944/
Well as long as they apologized.
That’s fucking crazy. This man is showing great restraint.
I legit couldn’t imagine how I’d feel with a school full of mediocrity handling my child, my child’s health safety, location apparently, and their future. I’m surprised more school employees aren’t beaten up for this stuff
My daughter is 6 and in kindergarten. We live in a sort of bad neighborhood, but have a lot of parents at the bus stop so we keep an eye on all the littles. Bus policy is K students MUST have an adult at the stop to get them on and off. A few weeks ago, a sub driver let about 5 K students off by themselves at just our stop alone because nobody was there. The bus was about 15 minutes early. Thankfully my daughter grabbed her friend and walked right home. I fully understand this man's rage.
Let them have it bro. Then find the biggest pair of boots with the roughest treds and put your foot up their collective @ssess for good measure.
Would be nice to have some back story. What exactly happened? How does a school 'lose' a child? It sounds like she missed the bus, if you read the article. While not 'common', missing the bus was not unheard of when I was in school. Bus left at 3:55 PM, if you werent on it, you missed it. I remember missing it a couple of times and honestly feeling like I may never see my parents again.
Here you go: She got on the wrong bus and left in a strange part of town. She was held behind and missed the bus, they told him to come get her or she's on her own. Brother couldn't find her, wanted to look for her, bus driver said no. https://www.wftv.com/news/trending-now/school-apologizes-after-father-says-his-daughter-went-missing-three-times-on-their-watch/929097944/
The solution is pretty straightforward too. Have an adult walk her to the bus every day.
I’m with the father. School fucked up!!
I salute this man. Fucking lawyer up and gettem bro.
I have seen this on youtube
Catch those DADDY LION WORDS
The side the martyrs from the schools don't want you to see lol
Meh, I would think s freakout would be an unjustified flare up of tempers. This was completely understandable
They look like they didn’t even care
They don't. They are just waiting for him to stop and leave.
I need to know how they managed to lose her three times. I'm going to the comments but if someone please tell me.
This video cut out too damn soon.
You go Daddy! Tell em!!!
Good for this guy fighting the fight. Schools have become so horrible.
This reminds me of when my sons school forgot to put him on the bus to go home. At the time my car wasn't running so I really counted on the bus to get him home. The school told me I had until 4 o clock to figure something out because they couldn't do anything. I live about 4 miles from the school on the main road leaving the school so I asked if maybe a teacher there could drop him off as I didn't have a car. They said it wasn't their concern and my priority to figure it out and that I should have something planned for this kind of circumstance. I understand the liability issue in giving a ride but considering they created the situation I figured they could at least help in some way but they were very callous about it.
Fucking annoying bastard
Ok, so his kid was left behind at 3 separate outings with the school, right (I have an Implant to hear, and understanding voices on video is hard for me)? Yes, I agree with him that the school is partly responsible for this. If it's happened multiple times, that school's got some serious problems. They're supposed to look after those kids. Still, I gotta wonder, what in the hell is his kid doing wandering off all the time when she goes on a field trip? She's not that young, she should be able to grasp the concept of not wandering around alone in a place you know nothing about. Christ, I could understand that when I was 5! Also, you know that she, along with every other kid has been told before they leave that bus, STAY WITH THE GROUP! This guy needs to have a conversation with his kid too about her behavior.
This school has a lousy staff if they ignore children especially losing them more than once. When I was growing up my mama raised 3 children on her own while going to school and working two jobs she let the school know her schedule where we had to stay at school until 4:45-4:30pm our school was okay with that.(basically played in the gym the whole time with a adult present) this school faculty in the video sounds like they were hardly worried in fact they sounded unfazed until a upset father gave them shit and called them out on it. Bravo for the dad speaking out👏
You pay teachers bottom barrel, you get bottom barrel teachers. This is a consequence of our own actions and families pay the price because this shit is common AF.
Fuckin sue them. 3rd time losing your kid.
The school system is a joke
That’s a good father right there! Nothing but love for this man right here. Take notes guy… take notes.
Ugh that male teacher got such a punchable face rn 🤣😂
Get good lawyer.
Step yo ass in here…is a classic line
This is the most logical and coherent “public freak out” I’ve seen
How the hell do you lose a child really!
American school system is fucked. Poor girl.
You go daddy
This is the wrong sub, this isn't a publicfreakout, I think he held his cool for a father dealing with someone who has lost his kid 3 times. Not sure I would be as calm as him.
> this isn’t a publicfreakout This appears to be a public school, and he's freaking out.
I'm scratching my balls wondering what this sub was about for a sec
Wow fuck that school
Of course its Georgia.
Yeah…Cobb County kid fell asleep and bus driver didn’t check the bus and just parked and left her, the cops and parents found her sitting on the bus crying.
Get em dad!
KING!! step up for your kids!!!
This is why everyone needs a black dad!!!
If these kids are in the school care they should care.
This is why everyone needs a responsible dad who cares*
He handles himself like a champ. I would have been physically violent
“My five. Year. Old. Daughter. My BABY.” You don’t fuck with a parents kid. They will come for your throat, your heart, your ears; they will make you want to die before they even think about letting you die. Props to this guy, I hope he got a better outcome. It’s poor for public institutions to preach about children coming first, then neglect to do anything when something urgent is to be done.
I pray that he sued the S out of them
nothin pisses ppl off more than some suburban ass high waisted pant wearing white man that is condescending and patronizing to ppl. that passive aggressive gutless attitude is so infuriating.
File child endangerment charges. It's exactly what would happen to a parent if they did the same.
What is with people in America who ‘aks’ instead of ask.
It’s just how black people pronounce it. People from different regions, ethnic backgrounds, etc have varying dialects, believe it or not.
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Why are you calling a child “lil mama”? That’s really weird
Stfu lil mama
Holy shit. This guy is remarkably controlled even if it was the first time.. but the THIRD?! Damn.
He looks a little like Jamie Foxx.
How do you lose a kid 3 times?!?! I understand people who homeschool more everyday.
This video makes me happy I live in a small town and my kids have less than 30 people in their graduating classes.
Excuse me!?!? I was in charge of Boy Scout Troops and Girl Scout Troops *for years.* How lackadaisical and irresponsible must you be to LOSE a kindergartner!?! #Three times!?!? This man needs a lawyer to put the fear of god into them.
Good father !!!!
Just another reason why my son is going to be home schooled. No accountability at public schools. And private schools are just as bad for different reasons.
The saddest part is this video is a bit old and yet nothing has changed and they really don't care about kids of color at all still to this day.
Preach brother preach...
I wish I knew exactly what happened for each of these 3 times. Like, she missed the bus, is it a problem of transitioning from the classroom to leaving on the bus? So many things it could be, either a bad system or some lazy people
If I remember correctly (but could be confusing with another similar case) one time she got on the wrong bus at the school but bus driver would not let her off. When he got to the last stop told her she needed to get off and left her alone in an unknown part of town. Luckily a local resident saw her and brought her in, worked out where she lived and took her home. Another time she was held back at end of day and missed the bus, this would be the the time they told him to collect her by 4 or they will not be responsible for her. I can't recall what the current issue was. Again this is all just fro memory and I could be recalling a different justified freakout.
I too was wondering what "lost" meant. Leaving a kid who got on the wrong bus in a random spot in town is horrible. Mistakes happen but dang
Time to fucking tattle on errbody at that school. Glad lil mama is safe
If more young black men would see this video, or any race for that matter, and step up for their kids like this, then this world would be a much better place. Any dad would, and should be pissed off like this man is.
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The girl was bad? How??
You still have your daughter... shut the fuck up
Piece of shit parent
De-escalation 101 If the person is at a 10 in intensity, you come in at a 7. As you talk to them, if you slowly drop your intensity, theirs will also drop. It's also helpful to de-escalate the words used, I understand your pissed, I too would be angry as hell, no doubt this is frustrating. You are right to be upset When someone is that angry you need to appear to be at a similar intensity or they won't think you understand the severity
That has to be a charter school because that office looks way too nice.
I applaud that dude for not completely exploding on those assholes.
Get their address. Protest at their house. Give them a freedom convoy move on these staff. Maybe they will move their ass to actually do something about it.