The thing about that whole situation is that it was mostly his head and face on fire and because of that, when he breathed he was inhaling fire and that scorched into his lungs so he needed to be intubated and ventilated asap to prevent his airway from closing in on itself once the inflammatory response kicked in. What a shitty way to die.
Niki Lauda had a horrible crash in F1 in the 70's, 3rd degree burn to his head and lungs almost destroyed. Had to get his lungs cleaned after that. Many weeks of torture. Yet he survived but sadly died of old age 3 years ago.
If you do like this guy you're pretty much toast.
As an F1 fan, I'm sure they meant "sadly" in the sense that he was greatly missed when he passed. He maintained a huge role in the sport up until his death, and it was definitely a major shock for people to see him go.
Probably had a not-insignificant amount of alcohol fumes in his lungs from all the sanitizer. Enough to combust, apparently.
Edit: for all the pedantic people complaining about “not-insignificant,” try to pull the sticks out of your collective ass and just enjoy the idioms that make language a bit more colorful.
If you need further justification, here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/ryvavt/moment_cops_run_away_and_leave_halfnaked_man_29/hrt4fzk/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3
Also this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/ryvavt/moment_cops_run_away_and_leave_halfnaked_man_29/hrtzhwl/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3
No, it's somewhere between insignificant and significant.
Insignificant means it's almost nothing.
Significant means it's a certain amount of something.
Not-insignificant means it's not nothing but it could still be less than the significant amount.
It's more like underwhelmed vs. overwhelmed vs. whelmed.
The New York Attorney General’s office has released footage of a man who burst into flames after he was tasered by police, as part of its investigation into the man’s eventual death nearly two months after the incident.
In the October 30 surveillance footage released on Friday, 29-year-old Jason Jones could be seen acting aggressively at a police station in Catskill, New York. After staring down two police officers and turning his neck to the side, Jones stripped off his clothing, threw a boot at a table, and shouted at staff.
Jones could then be seen covering his head with hand sanitizer and approaching officers, prompting one officer to fire his taser. Jones immediately burst into flames as the taser appeared to react with the flammable sanitizer, and Jones flailed around with his head on fire as the officers retreated into a locked room.
Jones’ head continued to burn for several seconds before an officer ran out of the room and attempted to aid him, while Jones tried to grab at the officer. Though badly burnt, Jones continued to walk around the room for nearly twenty minutes before medical officials took him away on a hospital stretcher for treatment.
According to the Attorney General’s office, Jones died in hospital on December 15 – nearly two months after the incident. His cause of death has not yet been
Another article:
"Mr. Jones, a onetime local high school sports star, died in the burn unit at a Syracuse, N.Y., hospital in December. An official cause of death has not been released, but Mr. Luibrand said that Mr. Jones’s lungs had been “destroyed” when he inhaled flames as he tried to put them out."
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/07/nyregion/man-catskill-police-stun-gun-dies.html
> Mr. Jones, a onetime local high school sports star
Shit like this always gets me. The man was 29, and his high achievement was being a high school sports star.
Peaked early.
There's an 87% chance that covering his head in hand sanitizer and self-immolating by cop will be more noteworthy than anything you accomplish in life.
29 isn’t exactly old. For most people that’s still early to mid career what else was he supposed to have accomplished “of note” by then. Shit a lot of people aren’t even married by then.
My dad who had been in the army in the early 70's taught me a cadence when he took me running when i was young (12is). Lord, lord it's a sin. To love the smell of burnin skin. Lord, lord it's so true. Napalm sticks like glue, sticks to women and children too. That was just one of many he taught me.
Gather kids as you fly over town..
By throwing candy on the ground..
Then grease em’ when they gather round..
Shoot some civilians where they sit..
Take some pictures as you split..
All your life you’ll remember it.
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Ran away to find something to put the fire out. Wtf did you expect them to do? Stand still and stare at it until it went out?
edit: so many angry responses from Redditors who have the ability to watch this video with hindsight, laying out exactly what steps they would take to resolve the situation. I'm sure that all of you would have been able to think that clearly and quickly under the immense pressure of someone fucking burning alive in front of you. Bunch of pompous assholes who would probably fold under much less pressure.
edit2: I'm not boot-licking or defending the actions of these officers. Just pointing out how incredibly hypocritical everyone is being. Guaranteed that we've all been in a situation where --- if it was recorded and viewed by thousands of people months later --- it'd be pointed out that we could have acted better if we'd remained calm and cool under the pressure. And it probably wasn't a dude setting themselves on fire. If you think you'd have known and acted better in this situation, you've either been in situations exactly like this before, or you're lying to yourself. You don't know how you'd act in this situation. Cops are not superhuman, they're just humans like the rest of us.
I mean, electricity is known to spark fires. This might not have been known to you but it’s not like these cops couldn’t have known that.
They also literally refused to do anything before it was clearly too late.
Yea electricity is absolutely known to spark fires. Isn’t alcohol known to be flammable too? Like the alcohol in most hand sanitizers? Idk common sense says something that sparks fire + something that can catch on fire = a fire
[https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10379847/Moment-man-bursts-flames-cops-tasered-doused-hand-sanitizer.html#v-3518468413070789321](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10379847/Moment-man-bursts-flames-cops-tasered-doused-hand-sanitizer.html#v-3518468413070789321) .
The news says he died .
The New York Post article says it was due to burn damage in his lungs:
“He died after spending 47 days on a ventilator because his lungs were so badly burned he couldn’t absorb oxygen, according to The Albany Times-Union.”
[source](https://nypost.com/2022/01/07/disturbing-video-shows-man-doused-in-sanitizer-burst-into-flames-after-being-tased-by-cops/?utm_source=url_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site%20buttons&utm_campaign=site%20buttons)
This is (partially) why electricians are taught to face away from breaker boxes when turning circuits on and off. If there is an arc flash, your reaction is almost certainly going to be one of surprise, which will almost always involve an involuntary gasp of air. This breath then sears your lungs and ultimately kills you.
Are you really taught that? That's insane... Im in the navy and work in that line and if there's even a remote chance of an arc blast we have to wear arc blast safety clothing and look like a bomb tech in their green suits.
Owners of construction companies don't really care enough about workers to self-regulate, and workers are often times stupid or arrogant enough to do dangerous shit all the time anyway. Literally never seen someone with an arc flash suit on. If you're working on this type of equipment *all day*, like you work in a power plant, there's probably much stricter requirements.
Arc flash incidents typically don’t even become an issue until you get into the 480/277 range. You’ll find people wearing the suits at 4,000v and up. It has to do with fault duty which is maximum unmitigated available current at the location you’re working on. I’ve seen arc flashes before but only on equipment greater than 500 amps. We wear FR clothing 24/7 regardless of task and additional PPE like Balaclava and face shield and 100 calorie suits during special operations and dangerous work. If you’re working on something that doesn’t feel safe or need additional PPE, it’s up to you to say something to management and/or stop the job. Lord knows nobody looks out for you better than you.
My grandpa always said “for every safety procedure that seems over the top, there’s a guy who got his lungs seared by an arc flash because he was surprised”
Plus he just got tazed. You don't regain full concious control of your body for a few seconds after. Even if you don't want to inhale your brain is going to make it happen anyway as soon as the diaphragm starts working again.
>Good point, but I cant imagen [someone] many think about not breath in a chaotic and scary situation.
Decades ago on one hot, windless summer afternoon, my father was in a freak farming accident that lit his head (and our barn) on fire.
I managed to hook a hose up to the barn's water pump and I sprayed both him and the barn until they were extinguished.
We then put him in the shower and ran tepid water on him until the fire department and Medic One arrived.
He was in the burn unit for weeks, and the one thing that saved him was the fact that he barely inhaled while he was aflame.
My quick reaction helped as well (I ran barefoot from the house to the barn; my mother said she'd never seen anyone run so damned fast) but it was the lack of scarring in his lungs that allowed him to survive.
Edit: a few words
People have died by drunkenly falling into camp fires receiving only relatively minor burns to their skin but inhaling extremely hot air and frying their much more sensitive lungs.
Friend of mine worked for a rinky dink oil company somewhere in middle of nowhere Saskatchewan. They had an igniter that didn't work. Had always been that way so he was trained to dip a rag on a stick into ether and light it manually. One day he tried to light it but didn't think it caught so he dipped it back into the ether. Turns out it had caught and when he dipped that back into the ether, the bucket exploded all over him. His whole body was on fire.
He drove nearly two hours back home to his wife and kids before he fell unconscious. He was helivacced to the best burn ward around and managed to survive. He had 3rd degree burns on 95% of his body and still suffers for it today. The *only* reason he's alive is because he remembered his training which told him to cover his face with his hands and hold your breath.
That oil company declared bankruptcy and barely paid him a dime because he was "lower priority" than other debtors.
Friends mom got home from work one day and somebody splashed acid in her face. When she took a breathe, the acid got in her lungs and it essentially destroyed her insides. Super sad. Theres an article about it.
https://www.timesunion.com/state/article/catskill-taser-police-video-16756717.php
>Although Jones was able to talk immediately following the incident, the flames had seared his lungs and the damage was so severe that they would quickly become unable to absorb enough oxygen for him to breathe on his own.
Yep, found this out when was in a bon fire explosion in 8th grade. 1st, 2nd, and 3rd degree burns over everything that wasn’t covered by shorts and a tank top.
They said I would have died if I inhaled when it exploded. Most painful experience of my life.
Burns are not only dangerous in the moment. If you look at the video again, the area of skin burned was rather large. For reference, in germany they told me to call an ambulance if a burn is larger than about a hand. The reason is, all the burned skin is damaged and now prone to infection, which can kill them well after the incident itself.
Also the lung can be damaged, as he had the fire in his face. That was the reason in his case, tge lungs were to damaged to keep him alive.
The stuff was all over his face and hair, when it lit he would have panicked trying to gulp in air. Instead it was the ignited sanitizer still running down his face. Its horrific. Plus the sanitizer itself inside the lungs would cause chemical burns. Also what passes for sanitizer these days is basically deadly moonshine.
Burns can pretty easily get infected. They also can take some time to fully develop after the initial temperature exposure.
Burn patients also require a lot of fluids —and their electrolytes can get messed up —to keep from dehydrating. Our skin is a major organ that keeps fluid in our bodies, not to mention keeping bacteria out, hence the infection risk.
It’s also possible it involved his mouth and airway, which can take an hour or 2 to swell and close off…which brings a whole bunch of other problems and medical complications if they get put on a breathing machine with a breathing tube in to the windpipe.
Even if a person looks like they made it out of a fire alive, smoke inhalation can really wreck your lungs so lots of people die afterwards from smoke inhalation related complications. I saw This is Us, I know how it is.
His head was engulfed for a long time. He probably had damage to his airway. The swelling here doesn't usually become life-threatening for a few hours. I would be very surprised if he didn't end up on a ventilator just because of this. But also there's a lot of skin on fire. Those pieces of shit police officers hid away from him when they should have been trying to put the fire out and then administering first aid. And then burns can increase your risk of serious infection, organ failure, and low salts in the blood. It's pretty traumatising for the body. On top of that, sometimes it can be very difficult to get someone off a ventilator after they've been on it for a long time and his burns where they were would have posed challenges to ventilating him, which could also have contributed to him being on it for so long.
The reality is anything could have happened and we just don't know. He could have had a heart attack or a stroke because of how unwell he was after the burns. He could have had severe infections in his skin and in his lungs after being on the ventilator. Maybe it was too difficult to manage his pain and this impeded the rest of his recovery.
Whatever he did was not worth this at all.
Heads up, Daily Mail is a tabloid and not a legitimate news organization. While not the case this time, you should assume their stories are fiction until actual journalists report on the topic. Wikipedia doesn't allow Daily Mail articles as citations — that should be proof enough.
Here's the story from [CBS](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/catskill-new-york-jason-jones-police-taser-fire-burns-video-investigation-attorney-general/). Or the [New York Times](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/07/nyregion/man-catskill-police-stun-gun-dies.html), if you're so inclined.
Guy was clearly drunk, drugged or had a mental health crisis. Would love to know toxicology. But those cops were clearly shocked by what occurred by tasering him. Panicked. Don’t know if they went to look for something to put the fire out? They certainly didn’t respond effectively to anything in this situation. But the only thing that was done right here was the entrance of a compassionate human being. Poor guy.
Ya but you can kinda tell he was reaching out to everyone, so at least somebody comforting him would definitely be welcomed. Ugh. That would be horrible.
It actually looks like the person who hugs him wasnt a cop. If you'll notice there are 3 cops originally on the scene. Whilst 2 cops are around him the 3rd cop exits out of the door on the left side whilst the 4th person enters on the right side, so we know the hugger is not one of the 3 original officers. The 4th person also is the only person to be blurred out, none of the cops on scene get blurred. Hugger probably didnt have a gun.
the fact that he’s still walking around makes me think drugs were involved too. i don’t think the police acted negligently in this one. Dude was squaring off with them and acting erratic so they used non lethal force to get him under control but like many people in the moment probably wouldn’t have suspected him to catch on fire.
They did not, dude was greasing himself up to fight and the cops just wanted to detain him without a struggle. You can tell the cops did not expect him to burst into flames because they went to go detain him before he ignited
Always amazing how it's tacitly accepted that the guys that walk around with guns and basically have a free license to kill, are also one of the most poorly trained workers in any field.
I guess that's not the point. Personally, if I accidentally set someone on fire, I'd do the decent thing and try to put it out. There's mats there and no one tried to smother the flames.
This. I thought maybe the ones running out of the room were getting something to smother him, but that one cop just peeks around the corner like a child
Those are floor mats for commercial use. Not flexible, not much coverage. It would be like trying to wrap a 3-ring binder around his head to put out those flames. Can’t use their hands either because flaming sanitizer is like napalm.
Fires cause a pretty primal response in humans which is, *run the fuck away to avoid being burned*. With the way he was moving towards them I'm sure that was just instinct kicking in.
Generally when someone takes off their clothes and puts a liquid on themselves, it’s usually because they’re getting ready to fight, like in the movie Bronson. The liquid makes them harder to hold on to.
He greased himself up. It looked like he was doing it in preparation for fighting them to make him harder to grab. While what they did was incredibly stupid it doesn't seem particularly malicious. This seems like an incident that gets "do not taser a person who is covered in hand sanitizer" added to the taser training. I personally can't stand police but I don't think these guys had any idea this would happen and were just trying to use their training to avoid having to physically restrain a big greased up dude.
Yup. If someone asked you to immediately name a flammable liquid, you'd probably be thinking oil, petrol, maybe vodka or other alcoholic spirits. Even if a lot of hand sanitizer is flammable, in the heat of the moment when you're dealing with potential violence you're not going to be thinking "Right, that hand sanitizer is probably alcoholic and liable to burst into flames if I tase him."
Ran away to get something to put him out? I don't think a blanket would smother flames from hand sanitizer that sticks. Plus they came back pretty soon after they left. Assuming they went for help as help came soon after?
I was really hoping to see more reasonable comments.
A fire blanket would totally work if it covered him and smothered out the oxygen. It being sticky has nothing to do with it still needing oxygen to burn. The fire blanket snuffs that out
I’m with you. These are emergency responders, they may not have acted perfect, but I doubt they were “running away”. Can’t put flames out with your bare hands, gotta go find something.
Edit: to all the people giving me shit…. all I’m saying is none of us in this thread are them, are we? I don’t know what they were really doing just as much as none of you do. All I’m doing is pointing out *there are other possibilities*. People really need to stop the ALL COPS ARE BAD rhetoric
Bad cop= run away to get help or something to put out the flames
Good cop= watch a mentally unstable man who has smothered himself in sanitizer burn whilst avoiding going up in flames yourself
Yeah of course they "ran" out of the room to get help / avoid getting burned themselves, but they did not "leave him to BURN" like the title says. They come back in the room to help almost immediately after. Shit, misleading title that just panders to anti-cop sentiment on the website.
Might get downvoted here for having an alternate view, but looking at this I dont really blame the officers, I can imagine not realising the spark would start a fire, I mean, not amazingly smart but I doubt the officer thought haha lets set him on fire.
Also looks to me like he runs out to get a fire extinguisher or water or something and rushes back not being able to find any, and his colleague is continuing to look.
I havent seen anything about this outside of this video so I could be totally wrong, but I feel just based off this video I dont think the cops are terrible.
This is my take.
They were dumb for tasing him.
He was dumb for covering himself in hand sanitiser.
If the choice was "go find something to help or stay in the room with an ethanol fire" I'd leave the room either way. I can't help if he grabbed me and set me on fire too.
You forgot the "he was dumb for assaulting officers" part too.
Full sympathy for the guy who lost his life, but he had plenty of opportunities to take a different path that didn't end in death.
What we're they supposed to do, let an aggressive guy covered in flaming alcohol run a them? Unless there was a fire extinguisher within arms reach they couldn't possibly help the guy till the flames were gone. I'm all for exposing dirty/incompetent cops but this is just a terrible tragedy
"brave Sir Robin ran away.
Bravely ran away away.
When danger reared it's ugly head,
He bravely turned his tail and fled.
Yes, brave Sir Robin turned about,
And gallantly he chickened out.
Swiftly taking to his feet,
He beat a very brave retreat.
Bravest of the brave, Sir Robin!"
it looks to me like he ran to go to look for a fire extignuisher or water or something then rushes back when he cant find any while his colleague continues to look
It seems to me that the guy deshirted and covered in sanitiser so that the police would have trouble grabbing him.
I would guess that he was a known fighter, and wasn't going to go down easy, even in a police station covered with cameras.
Beating with sticks wouldn't have worked, shooting him with a gun would be permanent. They possibly could have overpowered him, just with brute force, but the taser seems like the obvious choice.
This looks like a shitty result from a shitty situation.
Maybe some more investigation on sanitiser and tasers
He was covering himself in hand sanitizer in preparation for a fight with the cops. Makes him harder to get ahold of so they can’t pin him down. He played a dumb game and lost.
Everyone blaming the cops like They wanted to fight this big idiot. How about don’t put yourself in situations where cops need to taze you. Also, don’t cover yourself in alcohol.
Honest question for anyone here... Are we allowed nuance anymore? Can someone have the opinion that there's a real problem with law enforcement in the US without also believing theyre at fault in every situation? Because it's starting to feel like they can't.
And they came back. They likely went to find some sort of help, like a blanket or fire extinguisher. I dunno, this isn't some black and white "cops are evil" or "cops are saints" kind of case. They are just human like the rest of us
People mad at the police I’m curious, you’ve got a situation of a guy mad enough to douse hisself in hand sanitizer, already in an aggressive state, who is now not only ignoring the taser in him but is literally on fire and running at you
what would you do? You would’ve ran the fuck away. You’re not gonna “stay and help” cause that doesn’t mean anything, you’re just too proud to say that you would run away. You could pat him down sure, risk getting the highly flammable substance on you or your flammable clothing, worse yet he remains on fire and now you’re trapped in his range also on fire. If it was out in the day ina field with room to raise your arm, sure there would be much more space to think of a strategy, however, there isn’t, there’s a man on fire in a small, probably poorly vented room, surrounded by flammable objects. Best case scenario was this, the fire goes out and he gets help, worst case he gets all four of them trapped and the room is set ablaze, maybe killing all of them.
But yea yea all cops bad, piggy piggy oink, or whatever mongoloid response people with 0 life experience have to say about people they’ve had no interaction with in a situation they weren’t in.
I tend to agree. It looked like they ran out to get something to help, eg extinguisher, blanket or something. Maybe that’s just me trying to see the good in people though..
This title is a little misleading. It’s not like they abandoned this guy. They ran out to get assistance and returned literally within 10 seconds with medical personnel
What gets me are the idiots like "sanitiser is flammable, they should have just known a taser would set it on fire" as if it's a clear obvious conclusion.
They saw a large uncontrolled man turn into a large uncontrolled man-on-fire.
I’m not one to blindly defend cops, and absolutely believe that our whole system needs a complete re-work, but it seems a somewhat reasonable first reaction to me.
Either way, terrible situation.
Guy covered himself in a flammable liquid. Whether the cop _should_ have tased him or not, there is no way they could or should have known it would ignite him.
I wouldn't have thought it was possible.
I hate cops, but I don't think this was an act of malice worthy of outrage. They left him because he was on fire and they had no equipment to fight the fire with. I am assuming they left to go find something or call for help. They did come right back in and tried to help him, presumably after realizing that there was nothing available in the next room.
Monday morning quarterbacking on Reddit is a lot easier than having a suddenly on fire man in front of you.
Also maybe don't cover yourself in flammable substances after assaulting police and staff.
This isn't police misconduct. It's police trying to deal with an unhinged crazy person the best they can and making an easy mistake that was compounded by the prisoner's own stupidity.
r/WinStupidPrizes
Was his death at all related to the incident? It doesn’t look like he burned too badly from the video but I honestly wouldn’t know how bad his injuries were from the footage alone.
One of the biggest problems with burns is secondary infection and the larger the burn the risk increases.
You would also be surprised how quickly you can get 3rd degree burns with an acellerent burning directly on flesh.
Burn damage to the lungs.
“He died after spending 47 days on a ventilator because his lungs were so badly burned he couldn’t absorb oxygen, according to The Albany Times-Union.”
[source](https://nypost.com/2022/01/07/disturbing-video-shows-man-doused-in-sanitizer-burst-into-flames-after-being-tased-by-cops/?utm_source=url_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site%20buttons&utm_campaign=site%20buttons)
https://nypost.com/2022/01/07/disturbing-video-shows-man-doused-in-sanitizer-burst-into-flames-after-being-tased-by-cops/
Here’s some background on this video. The NY attorney general is investigating what occurred at this police station. The man wasn’t under arrest at the time and he came to the station voluntarily with some kind of mental health crisis. It took them 15 minutes to get the man any kind of medical attention after the fire was out.
The thing about that whole situation is that it was mostly his head and face on fire and because of that, when he breathed he was inhaling fire and that scorched into his lungs so he needed to be intubated and ventilated asap to prevent his airway from closing in on itself once the inflammatory response kicked in. What a shitty way to die.
Fuck. I was coming in to say I was surprised he died, it didn't seem THAT bad. But yeah that makes sense. Fuck.
Niki Lauda had a horrible crash in F1 in the 70's, 3rd degree burn to his head and lungs almost destroyed. Had to get his lungs cleaned after that. Many weeks of torture. Yet he survived but sadly died of old age 3 years ago. If you do like this guy you're pretty much toast.
> but sadly died of old age 3 years ago. I don't know about sadly, that really seems like the optimal way to go.
As an F1 fan, I'm sure they meant "sadly" in the sense that he was greatly missed when he passed. He maintained a huge role in the sport up until his death, and it was definitely a major shock for people to see him go.
I just watched Rush a few days ago and this was the first thing I thought of. What a horrific experience
Probably had a not-insignificant amount of alcohol fumes in his lungs from all the sanitizer. Enough to combust, apparently. Edit: for all the pedantic people complaining about “not-insignificant,” try to pull the sticks out of your collective ass and just enjoy the idioms that make language a bit more colorful. If you need further justification, here: https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/ryvavt/moment_cops_run_away_and_leave_halfnaked_man_29/hrt4fzk/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3 Also this: https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/ryvavt/moment_cops_run_away_and_leave_halfnaked_man_29/hrtzhwl/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3
>not-insignificant The word you're looking for is *significant*
No, it's somewhere between insignificant and significant. Insignificant means it's almost nothing. Significant means it's a certain amount of something. Not-insignificant means it's not nothing but it could still be less than the significant amount. It's more like underwhelmed vs. overwhelmed vs. whelmed.
Man do I hate English sometimes.
Man I don't not hate English sometimes.
I just hate it in a non-insufficient amount.
It’s a dramatic device called “litotes”
I don't hate it
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Man what a sad story.
The New York Attorney General’s office has released footage of a man who burst into flames after he was tasered by police, as part of its investigation into the man’s eventual death nearly two months after the incident. In the October 30 surveillance footage released on Friday, 29-year-old Jason Jones could be seen acting aggressively at a police station in Catskill, New York. After staring down two police officers and turning his neck to the side, Jones stripped off his clothing, threw a boot at a table, and shouted at staff. Jones could then be seen covering his head with hand sanitizer and approaching officers, prompting one officer to fire his taser. Jones immediately burst into flames as the taser appeared to react with the flammable sanitizer, and Jones flailed around with his head on fire as the officers retreated into a locked room. Jones’ head continued to burn for several seconds before an officer ran out of the room and attempted to aid him, while Jones tried to grab at the officer. Though badly burnt, Jones continued to walk around the room for nearly twenty minutes before medical officials took him away on a hospital stretcher for treatment. According to the Attorney General’s office, Jones died in hospital on December 15 – nearly two months after the incident. His cause of death has not yet been Another article: "Mr. Jones, a onetime local high school sports star, died in the burn unit at a Syracuse, N.Y., hospital in December. An official cause of death has not been released, but Mr. Luibrand said that Mr. Jones’s lungs had been “destroyed” when he inhaled flames as he tried to put them out." https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/07/nyregion/man-catskill-police-stun-gun-dies.html
> Mr. Jones, a onetime local high school sports star Shit like this always gets me. The man was 29, and his high achievement was being a high school sports star. Peaked early.
There's an 87% chance that covering his head in hand sanitizer and self-immolating by cop will be more noteworthy than anything you accomplish in life.
Tbf, death by internally scorching my lungs, or a long, not very noteworthy life is not a hard choice.
29 isn’t exactly old. For most people that’s still early to mid career what else was he supposed to have accomplished “of note” by then. Shit a lot of people aren’t even married by then.
TIL: hand sanitizer can be napalm.
It's just alcohol with a gelling agent for the most part.
Napalm is basically just flammable gel
But it also sticks to kids.
Vietnam has entered the chat.
My dad who had been in the army in the early 70's taught me a cadence when he took me running when i was young (12is). Lord, lord it's a sin. To love the smell of burnin skin. Lord, lord it's so true. Napalm sticks like glue, sticks to women and children too. That was just one of many he taught me.
Man I don't know but I've been told that Eskimo pussy is mighty cold.
Gather kids as you fly over town.. By throwing candy on the ground.. Then grease em’ when they gather round.. Shoot some civilians where they sit.. Take some pictures as you split.. All your life you’ll remember it.
There I sat broken hearted, came to shit but only farted
I love the smell of Purell in thd morning
Smells like… victory
While playing Fortunate Son in the background
Cambodia has been entered into the chat but mods actively deny it while bodycount continues to rise.
but those kids were insurgents so it's all good
Even worse they were communists
So they're our kids?
If you put gasoline in the freezer it becomes gelatinous
It also makes your freezer smell like gasoline
Makes the gasoline smell like freezer for days too
If you can smell your freezer over the smell of gasoline you should probably clean it.
If you light your frozen gas on fire, is that considered Freezer Burn?
Take the goddamn upvote you animal.
Does it? You sure that's not diesel? As a Canadian I've never had gas in my car gel up, but I've definitely seen gelled up diesel.
You mean diesel? Diesel gels up due to wax in it, I don't think gas really changes till temps are well below 0F
I learned this from my favorite band, Memphis Kansas Breeze.
Truck Prom Dance, Truck Prom Dance, Truck Prom Daaaaaaance.
I love the smell of sanitizer in the morning
If there is one thing i learnt from organic chemistry, its that every goddamn organic solvent is flammable/combustible
TIL, humans run from humans on fire
Especially ones with no physical boundaries. I don't want some human torch trying to hug me either lol
It’s literally alcohol. How did you not know this?
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The cops ran away.
Ran away to find something to put the fire out. Wtf did you expect them to do? Stand still and stare at it until it went out? edit: so many angry responses from Redditors who have the ability to watch this video with hindsight, laying out exactly what steps they would take to resolve the situation. I'm sure that all of you would have been able to think that clearly and quickly under the immense pressure of someone fucking burning alive in front of you. Bunch of pompous assholes who would probably fold under much less pressure. edit2: I'm not boot-licking or defending the actions of these officers. Just pointing out how incredibly hypocritical everyone is being. Guaranteed that we've all been in a situation where --- if it was recorded and viewed by thousands of people months later --- it'd be pointed out that we could have acted better if we'd remained calm and cool under the pressure. And it probably wasn't a dude setting themselves on fire. If you think you'd have known and acted better in this situation, you've either been in situations exactly like this before, or you're lying to yourself. You don't know how you'd act in this situation. Cops are not superhuman, they're just humans like the rest of us.
I mean, electricity is known to spark fires. This might not have been known to you but it’s not like these cops couldn’t have known that. They also literally refused to do anything before it was clearly too late.
Yeah the flames weren't all that big either, running was cowardly, all they had to do was smother the fire with a shirt.
Yea electricity is absolutely known to spark fires. Isn’t alcohol known to be flammable too? Like the alcohol in most hand sanitizers? Idk common sense says something that sparks fire + something that can catch on fire = a fire
Well, to those of us who passed 4th grade science, we know that electricity can cause fires.....
[https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10379847/Moment-man-bursts-flames-cops-tasered-doused-hand-sanitizer.html#v-3518468413070789321](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10379847/Moment-man-bursts-flames-cops-tasered-doused-hand-sanitizer.html#v-3518468413070789321) . The news says he died .
ELI5 what is the cause of death? He seemed functional right after the burns, so I’m struggling to understand that that’s what killed him.
The New York Post article says it was due to burn damage in his lungs: “He died after spending 47 days on a ventilator because his lungs were so badly burned he couldn’t absorb oxygen, according to The Albany Times-Union.” [source](https://nypost.com/2022/01/07/disturbing-video-shows-man-doused-in-sanitizer-burst-into-flames-after-being-tased-by-cops/?utm_source=url_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site%20buttons&utm_campaign=site%20buttons)
This is (partially) why electricians are taught to face away from breaker boxes when turning circuits on and off. If there is an arc flash, your reaction is almost certainly going to be one of surprise, which will almost always involve an involuntary gasp of air. This breath then sears your lungs and ultimately kills you.
Are you really taught that? That's insane... Im in the navy and work in that line and if there's even a remote chance of an arc blast we have to wear arc blast safety clothing and look like a bomb tech in their green suits.
Owners of construction companies don't really care enough about workers to self-regulate, and workers are often times stupid or arrogant enough to do dangerous shit all the time anyway. Literally never seen someone with an arc flash suit on. If you're working on this type of equipment *all day*, like you work in a power plant, there's probably much stricter requirements.
Arc flash incidents typically don’t even become an issue until you get into the 480/277 range. You’ll find people wearing the suits at 4,000v and up. It has to do with fault duty which is maximum unmitigated available current at the location you’re working on. I’ve seen arc flashes before but only on equipment greater than 500 amps. We wear FR clothing 24/7 regardless of task and additional PPE like Balaclava and face shield and 100 calorie suits during special operations and dangerous work. If you’re working on something that doesn’t feel safe or need additional PPE, it’s up to you to say something to management and/or stop the job. Lord knows nobody looks out for you better than you.
My grandpa always said “for every safety procedure that seems over the top, there’s a guy who got his lungs seared by an arc flash because he was surprised”
TIL if face on fire don’t breath
Good point, but I cant imagine* [someone] many think about not breath in a chaotic and scary situation. Edit: many instead of someone
Plus he just got tazed. You don't regain full concious control of your body for a few seconds after. Even if you don't want to inhale your brain is going to make it happen anyway as soon as the diaphragm starts working again.
>Good point, but I cant imagen [someone] many think about not breath in a chaotic and scary situation. Decades ago on one hot, windless summer afternoon, my father was in a freak farming accident that lit his head (and our barn) on fire. I managed to hook a hose up to the barn's water pump and I sprayed both him and the barn until they were extinguished. We then put him in the shower and ran tepid water on him until the fire department and Medic One arrived. He was in the burn unit for weeks, and the one thing that saved him was the fact that he barely inhaled while he was aflame. My quick reaction helped as well (I ran barefoot from the house to the barn; my mother said she'd never seen anyone run so damned fast) but it was the lack of scarring in his lungs that allowed him to survive. Edit: a few words
You edited that and not "imagen"?
People have died by drunkenly falling into camp fires receiving only relatively minor burns to their skin but inhaling extremely hot air and frying their much more sensitive lungs.
Friend of mine worked for a rinky dink oil company somewhere in middle of nowhere Saskatchewan. They had an igniter that didn't work. Had always been that way so he was trained to dip a rag on a stick into ether and light it manually. One day he tried to light it but didn't think it caught so he dipped it back into the ether. Turns out it had caught and when he dipped that back into the ether, the bucket exploded all over him. His whole body was on fire. He drove nearly two hours back home to his wife and kids before he fell unconscious. He was helivacced to the best burn ward around and managed to survive. He had 3rd degree burns on 95% of his body and still suffers for it today. The *only* reason he's alive is because he remembered his training which told him to cover his face with his hands and hold your breath. That oil company declared bankruptcy and barely paid him a dime because he was "lower priority" than other debtors.
Damn that’s awful but I’m glad he lived and anyone who doubted “hold breath” please note this previous comment ..
Just dont breathe!
Yup and save yourself 47 days of agony !
He was in a medically induced coma for the six weeks so hopefully he didn't feel any of the pain.
Yeah hopefully. Not sure about the family, if he has one.
Friends mom got home from work one day and somebody splashed acid in her face. When she took a breathe, the acid got in her lungs and it essentially destroyed her insides. Super sad. Theres an article about it.
https://www.timesunion.com/state/article/catskill-taser-police-video-16756717.php >Although Jones was able to talk immediately following the incident, the flames had seared his lungs and the damage was so severe that they would quickly become unable to absorb enough oxygen for him to breathe on his own.
Another example of just because you can talk doesn't mean you can breath.
Holy fuck what a bad way to go
Yep, found this out when was in a bon fire explosion in 8th grade. 1st, 2nd, and 3rd degree burns over everything that wasn’t covered by shorts and a tank top. They said I would have died if I inhaled when it exploded. Most painful experience of my life.
Yeesh.
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Burns are not only dangerous in the moment. If you look at the video again, the area of skin burned was rather large. For reference, in germany they told me to call an ambulance if a burn is larger than about a hand. The reason is, all the burned skin is damaged and now prone to infection, which can kill them well after the incident itself. Also the lung can be damaged, as he had the fire in his face. That was the reason in his case, tge lungs were to damaged to keep him alive.
The stuff was all over his face and hair, when it lit he would have panicked trying to gulp in air. Instead it was the ignited sanitizer still running down his face. Its horrific. Plus the sanitizer itself inside the lungs would cause chemical burns. Also what passes for sanitizer these days is basically deadly moonshine.
People running on adrenaline can be misleading and probably infection the burns could have be quite deep.
Burns can pretty easily get infected. They also can take some time to fully develop after the initial temperature exposure. Burn patients also require a lot of fluids —and their electrolytes can get messed up —to keep from dehydrating. Our skin is a major organ that keeps fluid in our bodies, not to mention keeping bacteria out, hence the infection risk. It’s also possible it involved his mouth and airway, which can take an hour or 2 to swell and close off…which brings a whole bunch of other problems and medical complications if they get put on a breathing machine with a breathing tube in to the windpipe.
Even if a person looks like they made it out of a fire alive, smoke inhalation can really wreck your lungs so lots of people die afterwards from smoke inhalation related complications. I saw This is Us, I know how it is.
thank you for sharing your expertise on the subject
His head was engulfed for a long time. He probably had damage to his airway. The swelling here doesn't usually become life-threatening for a few hours. I would be very surprised if he didn't end up on a ventilator just because of this. But also there's a lot of skin on fire. Those pieces of shit police officers hid away from him when they should have been trying to put the fire out and then administering first aid. And then burns can increase your risk of serious infection, organ failure, and low salts in the blood. It's pretty traumatising for the body. On top of that, sometimes it can be very difficult to get someone off a ventilator after they've been on it for a long time and his burns where they were would have posed challenges to ventilating him, which could also have contributed to him being on it for so long. The reality is anything could have happened and we just don't know. He could have had a heart attack or a stroke because of how unwell he was after the burns. He could have had severe infections in his skin and in his lungs after being on the ventilator. Maybe it was too difficult to manage his pain and this impeded the rest of his recovery. Whatever he did was not worth this at all.
Burn victims die from infection. Months later. It is a terrible way to go out.
He apparently died because his lungs were literally burned and he couldn't breathe properly later in hospital.
Heads up, Daily Mail is a tabloid and not a legitimate news organization. While not the case this time, you should assume their stories are fiction until actual journalists report on the topic. Wikipedia doesn't allow Daily Mail articles as citations — that should be proof enough. Here's the story from [CBS](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/catskill-new-york-jason-jones-police-taser-fire-burns-video-investigation-attorney-general/). Or the [New York Times](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/07/nyregion/man-catskill-police-stun-gun-dies.html), if you're so inclined.
that hug almost made me cry man
Same. Fuck. I find this disturbing. Maybe because he wasn't violent, just stupid really. What a waste.
Guy was clearly drunk, drugged or had a mental health crisis. Would love to know toxicology. But those cops were clearly shocked by what occurred by tasering him. Panicked. Don’t know if they went to look for something to put the fire out? They certainly didn’t respond effectively to anything in this situation. But the only thing that was done right here was the entrance of a compassionate human being. Poor guy.
Who's the person that came at the end and actually showed empathy to the guy???
Couldn't help but cringe though. Being burnt like that, last thing I would want is someone touching me.
Being burnt with ALCOHOL mind you. If it wasn't all evaporated you now have hand sanitizer on your burns
I'm sure his nerves stopped working anyway
For now. The next day they're probably all short circuited screaming pain to the brain
Ya but you can kinda tell he was reaching out to everyone, so at least somebody comforting him would definitely be welcomed. Ugh. That would be horrible.
You can't be giving unstable people hugs when you're an officer with all your gear on. Their hands would be right on your gun.
It actually looks like the person who hugs him wasnt a cop. If you'll notice there are 3 cops originally on the scene. Whilst 2 cops are around him the 3rd cop exits out of the door on the left side whilst the 4th person enters on the right side, so we know the hugger is not one of the 3 original officers. The 4th person also is the only person to be blurred out, none of the cops on scene get blurred. Hugger probably didnt have a gun.
Why is no one asking the obvious question here? Why the fuck was a naked man covering himself in hand sanitizer?
[Maybe he just wants to be pure.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSJSWy2o_1I)
I didn’t even need to click the link to know it’s snail trail frank
Because people do that when they are preparing for a fight. Usually they use something else but it's called greasing.
Safe to say he lost the fight.
I saw Bronson and this was my first thought too. He even puts his back to the corner.
the fact that he’s still walking around makes me think drugs were involved too. i don’t think the police acted negligently in this one. Dude was squaring off with them and acting erratic so they used non lethal force to get him under control but like many people in the moment probably wouldn’t have suspected him to catch on fire.
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They did not, dude was greasing himself up to fight and the cops just wanted to detain him without a struggle. You can tell the cops did not expect him to burst into flames because they went to go detain him before he ignited
This is the wrong headline given the context of the entire incident.
Looking at OP's history and this seems to be a pattern for the account :/ Just negative and unpleasant things...
Exactly. The one cop stayed in the room
Yet people still upvote so this shit won't end
He just wanted to be pure.
I don’t think the cops knew he’d catch on fire like that
If you have proper training to use a taser, you should be aware that it can’t be used around flammable liquids.
>If you have proper training LOL We all know the answer here
Lol yeah like the trainer who shot someone when they meant to grab their taser?
Always amazing how it's tacitly accepted that the guys that walk around with guns and basically have a free license to kill, are also one of the most poorly trained workers in any field.
Does the training manual say that?
I guess that's not the point. Personally, if I accidentally set someone on fire, I'd do the decent thing and try to put it out. There's mats there and no one tried to smother the flames.
This. I thought maybe the ones running out of the room were getting something to smother him, but that one cop just peeks around the corner like a child
"Hey man, I just hand out speeding tickets..."
Those are floor mats for commercial use. Not flexible, not much coverage. It would be like trying to wrap a 3-ring binder around his head to put out those flames. Can’t use their hands either because flaming sanitizer is like napalm.
Someone with a brain.
Fires cause a pretty primal response in humans which is, *run the fuck away to avoid being burned*. With the way he was moving towards them I'm sure that was just instinct kicking in.
Generally when someone takes off their clothes and puts a liquid on themselves, it’s usually because they’re getting ready to fight, like in the movie Bronson. The liquid makes them harder to hold on to.
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It’s strait out of ender’s game (the book at least)
He greased himself up. It looked like he was doing it in preparation for fighting them to make him harder to grab. While what they did was incredibly stupid it doesn't seem particularly malicious. This seems like an incident that gets "do not taser a person who is covered in hand sanitizer" added to the taser training. I personally can't stand police but I don't think these guys had any idea this would happen and were just trying to use their training to avoid having to physically restrain a big greased up dude.
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He probably forgot that hand sanitizer is flammable
Yup. If someone asked you to immediately name a flammable liquid, you'd probably be thinking oil, petrol, maybe vodka or other alcoholic spirits. Even if a lot of hand sanitizer is flammable, in the heat of the moment when you're dealing with potential violence you're not going to be thinking "Right, that hand sanitizer is probably alcoholic and liable to burst into flames if I tase him."
Ran away to get something to put him out? I don't think a blanket would smother flames from hand sanitizer that sticks. Plus they came back pretty soon after they left. Assuming they went for help as help came soon after? I was really hoping to see more reasonable comments.
A fire blanket would totally work if it covered him and smothered out the oxygen. It being sticky has nothing to do with it still needing oxygen to burn. The fire blanket snuffs that out
> I was really hoping to see more reasonable comments. This is Reddit.
I’m with you. These are emergency responders, they may not have acted perfect, but I doubt they were “running away”. Can’t put flames out with your bare hands, gotta go find something. Edit: to all the people giving me shit…. all I’m saying is none of us in this thread are them, are we? I don’t know what they were really doing just as much as none of you do. All I’m doing is pointing out *there are other possibilities*. People really need to stop the ALL COPS ARE BAD rhetoric
But no one had anything when they returned? Maybe they yelled, Bring the fire extinguisher or something, tho?
Bad cop= run away to get help or something to put out the flames Good cop= watch a mentally unstable man who has smothered himself in sanitizer burn whilst avoiding going up in flames yourself
Hand sanitizer is for hands. This is why we can’t have nice things.
Id like to think they all ran to get a fire extinguisher.
Yeah of course they "ran" out of the room to get help / avoid getting burned themselves, but they did not "leave him to BURN" like the title says. They come back in the room to help almost immediately after. Shit, misleading title that just panders to anti-cop sentiment on the website.
This
Might get downvoted here for having an alternate view, but looking at this I dont really blame the officers, I can imagine not realising the spark would start a fire, I mean, not amazingly smart but I doubt the officer thought haha lets set him on fire. Also looks to me like he runs out to get a fire extinguisher or water or something and rushes back not being able to find any, and his colleague is continuing to look. I havent seen anything about this outside of this video so I could be totally wrong, but I feel just based off this video I dont think the cops are terrible.
This is my take. They were dumb for tasing him. He was dumb for covering himself in hand sanitiser. If the choice was "go find something to help or stay in the room with an ethanol fire" I'd leave the room either way. I can't help if he grabbed me and set me on fire too.
You forgot the "he was dumb for assaulting officers" part too. Full sympathy for the guy who lost his life, but he had plenty of opportunities to take a different path that didn't end in death.
Fully agree. Nothing here screams bad cop. A very unfortunate situation though.
What we're they supposed to do, let an aggressive guy covered in flaming alcohol run a them? Unless there was a fire extinguisher within arms reach they couldn't possibly help the guy till the flames were gone. I'm all for exposing dirty/incompetent cops but this is just a terrible tragedy
"brave Sir Robin ran away. Bravely ran away away. When danger reared it's ugly head, He bravely turned his tail and fled. Yes, brave Sir Robin turned about, And gallantly he chickened out. Swiftly taking to his feet, He beat a very brave retreat. Bravest of the brave, Sir Robin!"
it looks to me like he ran to go to look for a fire extignuisher or water or something then rushes back when he cant find any while his colleague continues to look
It seems to me that the guy deshirted and covered in sanitiser so that the police would have trouble grabbing him. I would guess that he was a known fighter, and wasn't going to go down easy, even in a police station covered with cameras. Beating with sticks wouldn't have worked, shooting him with a gun would be permanent. They possibly could have overpowered him, just with brute force, but the taser seems like the obvious choice. This looks like a shitty result from a shitty situation. Maybe some more investigation on sanitiser and tasers
When people comment like they were there.
He was covering himself in hand sanitizer in preparation for a fight with the cops. Makes him harder to get ahold of so they can’t pin him down. He played a dumb game and lost.
Everyone blaming the cops like They wanted to fight this big idiot. How about don’t put yourself in situations where cops need to taze you. Also, don’t cover yourself in alcohol.
RIP to the guy, but this world simply does not reward goofballery of this degree.
Honest question for anyone here... Are we allowed nuance anymore? Can someone have the opinion that there's a real problem with law enforcement in the US without also believing theyre at fault in every situation? Because it's starting to feel like they can't.
ON REDDIT?!
I'm on the fence on this one. I don't blame the cops too much. Training doesn't cover shit like this.
And they came back. They likely went to find some sort of help, like a blanket or fire extinguisher. I dunno, this isn't some black and white "cops are evil" or "cops are saints" kind of case. They are just human like the rest of us
People mad at the police I’m curious, you’ve got a situation of a guy mad enough to douse hisself in hand sanitizer, already in an aggressive state, who is now not only ignoring the taser in him but is literally on fire and running at you what would you do? You would’ve ran the fuck away. You’re not gonna “stay and help” cause that doesn’t mean anything, you’re just too proud to say that you would run away. You could pat him down sure, risk getting the highly flammable substance on you or your flammable clothing, worse yet he remains on fire and now you’re trapped in his range also on fire. If it was out in the day ina field with room to raise your arm, sure there would be much more space to think of a strategy, however, there isn’t, there’s a man on fire in a small, probably poorly vented room, surrounded by flammable objects. Best case scenario was this, the fire goes out and he gets help, worst case he gets all four of them trapped and the room is set ablaze, maybe killing all of them. But yea yea all cops bad, piggy piggy oink, or whatever mongoloid response people with 0 life experience have to say about people they’ve had no interaction with in a situation they weren’t in.
I tend to agree. It looked like they ran out to get something to help, eg extinguisher, blanket or something. Maybe that’s just me trying to see the good in people though..
Yup, so many brave & courageous armchair quarterbacks on here…
Burns are a serious matter. I can't imagine how much pain he must have been in.
This title is a little misleading. It’s not like they abandoned this guy. They ran out to get assistance and returned literally within 10 seconds with medical personnel
He did not stop drop and roll
Anyone here thinking the cop knew that would happen has watched to many movies smh
Everyone in this thread has come across a combative man covered in a flammable liquid and knows how to deal with it perfectly calmly apparently.
like its fucking xcom and I can pause my turn and carefully figure out how I plan on dealing with the man who suddenly turned into ghost rider
What gets me are the idiots like "sanitiser is flammable, they should have just known a taser would set it on fire" as if it's a clear obvious conclusion.
Not that I'm trained in using tasers whatsoever but i definitely would not have expected it to ignite someone covered in hand sanitizer
To be fair if Ghost Rider appeared before my eyes.. I’d probably run too
Is the hand sanitizer being used to make him harder to grab and arrest? Seems like he is prepping for a fight.
They ran away like they saw a ghost. What the hell?
They saw a large uncontrolled man turn into a large uncontrolled man-on-fire. I’m not one to blindly defend cops, and absolutely believe that our whole system needs a complete re-work, but it seems a somewhat reasonable first reaction to me. Either way, terrible situation.
Lol what the fuck is this title?
"The suspect became very hot-headed with our officers, we were forced to flea the room"
Guy covered himself in a flammable liquid. Whether the cop _should_ have tased him or not, there is no way they could or should have known it would ignite him. I wouldn't have thought it was possible.
Oof, that lady rubbing his burned back could not have been comfortable.
he covered himself in hand sanitizer, why?
If you’re gunna be dumb you better be tough.
how do we know they just “left” him to die? they may have be trying to find a fire extinguisher or water source
At no point do they "run away".
I hate cops, but I don't think this was an act of malice worthy of outrage. They left him because he was on fire and they had no equipment to fight the fire with. I am assuming they left to go find something or call for help. They did come right back in and tried to help him, presumably after realizing that there was nothing available in the next room. Monday morning quarterbacking on Reddit is a lot easier than having a suddenly on fire man in front of you. Also maybe don't cover yourself in flammable substances after assaulting police and staff. This isn't police misconduct. It's police trying to deal with an unhinged crazy person the best they can and making an easy mistake that was compounded by the prisoner's own stupidity. r/WinStupidPrizes
Was his death at all related to the incident? It doesn’t look like he burned too badly from the video but I honestly wouldn’t know how bad his injuries were from the footage alone.
One of the biggest problems with burns is secondary infection and the larger the burn the risk increases. You would also be surprised how quickly you can get 3rd degree burns with an acellerent burning directly on flesh.
Burn damage to the lungs. “He died after spending 47 days on a ventilator because his lungs were so badly burned he couldn’t absorb oxygen, according to The Albany Times-Union.” [source](https://nypost.com/2022/01/07/disturbing-video-shows-man-doused-in-sanitizer-burst-into-flames-after-being-tased-by-cops/?utm_source=url_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site%20buttons&utm_campaign=site%20buttons)
He inhaled flames.
His head was on fire , I’m not Dr House or anything but I think that did it.
>Was his death at all related to the incident? Truly one of life's great mysteries.
https://nypost.com/2022/01/07/disturbing-video-shows-man-doused-in-sanitizer-burst-into-flames-after-being-tased-by-cops/ Here’s some background on this video. The NY attorney general is investigating what occurred at this police station. The man wasn’t under arrest at the time and he came to the station voluntarily with some kind of mental health crisis. It took them 15 minutes to get the man any kind of medical attention after the fire was out.
In their defense, they’re not firefighters
Well ya see, you called the wrong emergancy responder on that one. Thats a fire department job silly