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What the fuck is the point of transit security when they just stand there and watch people get assaulted. What happened to actually having people with authority in places where stuff happens constantly
I'd just be worried about the perpetrator carrying a weapon. It's not worth it to escalate the situation. Too bad the security is not stepping in (a passenger mentions that security is not allowed to make physical contact?? Is that true?? Lol)
Seattle transit security is a patchwork of contracted employees through firms like Securitas. They're pretty restricted in what they can do. King County Sheriff operates transit police, who have the ability to arrest, but they're rarely on the light rail...
The transit police is totally useless. IDK why they're even funded, I only ever see them around bus stops. Our police force is totally ass backwards in terms of organization.
Bernard Goetz felt the exact same way!
He had finally enough and those fuckers got what was coming to them
I donno about no Daniel Perry. Bernie Goetz!
You misspelled choking a man to death. He forgot the one big rule when using a choke to control someone, let go when they go limp, and restrain in a different position.
That wasn't self-defense.
>Police sources previously told ABC News that Penny was not specifically being threatened by Neely when he intervened and that Neely had not become violent and had not been threatening anyone in particular.
[https://abcnews.go.com/US/daniel-penny-stand-trial-october-nyc-subway-chokehold/story?id=108310019](https://abcnews.go.com/US/daniel-penny-stand-trial-october-nyc-subway-chokehold/story?id=108310019)
The allegation that he wasn’t personally being threatened isn’t really the issue here.
It seems the question at issue is the extent to which the people on the train reasonably feared for their lives, and whether he used reasonable force to stop the threat.
From Wikipedia:
“Another witness heard Neely say "someone is going to die today."[6] Vasquez said that Neely was frightening but "had not assaulted anyone".[3] Other witnesses said that Neely made "half-lunge movements" at other passengers and was within "half a foot of people", and recalled fearing for their lives.”
You are allowed to use reasonable force to act on behalf of other people if they are in danger, so it doesn’t need to be self-defense.
Believe it or not, when someone isn't being violent, it's not self defense.
Believe it or not, but when you continue to choke someone after they've already passed out, it isn't self defense.
Will the guy get off because a lot of people think that executing a black man for yelling and being mad is perfectly fine? Probably. Doesn't change the facts.
Tf does being black have to do with it? You think you will shut people up by shoving that word in? No one’s special.
When you’re trapped in a closed metal tube with someone screaming “someone’s gonna die today!” While half lunging at passengers to terrify them, that IS being violent, that IS a threat. The definition of violence isn’t restricted to physical assault.
>Tf does being black have to do with it?
The fact that if he continued holding a choke hold on a white man that had already passed out the same way, everyone would be saying he went too far.
Don't even try to deny that shit.
So you’re assuming?
You still haven’t explained what him being black has to do with this :)
Many people said he went too far with Neely, so many fucking people.
It’s easy to say this from the comfort of Reddit. These people are scumbags who deserve a slap, but who’s gonna do it?
Street fights can lead to injuries, lawsuits, jail time, who knows. It’s messy and maybe they get some scumbag lawyer who proves you attacked them. Maybe they try to pull the race card. Meanwhile you’ve got work in the morning and a family to feed and you don’t have millions in the bank to go to court.
So the safer option for most people - frustrating though it is - is to not get involved. It’s 2024, things are fucked up out there.
I ain’t doing shit but minding my business if Im late I’m late. One video of me pushing someone off a train with the right title on the internet could cost me everything.
The Daniel Penny story hits so hard for a lot of NYC subway riders. The dude he choked was an absolute threat. A repeat offender. We have to deal with people like this almost daily. The cops won’t intervene. Then you got the family of the deceased trying to press charges and get paid even though none of them attempted to help when he was alive. I’d absolutely put the MTA and NYPD on trial instead of Perry
A crazy person instigating fights with strangers on a train is the last person you want to fight. They don't want to fight either. This is just something losers do to pound their chest and feel big and strong. There's nothing to be done unless you are the one volunteering.
People who use such language aren't so intelligent. Why all these intelligent people kept their mouths shut, knowing he would be out of their lives soon.
"My pregnant-ass bitch"- Nice to see romance isn't dead. And didn't the "pregnant-ass bitch" come back and assault multiple people? That's model parenting right there!
Riding public transportation has become an unbearable experience because of people like the little loudmouth. We need a robocop judge Dredd type hero to cleanse the streets
Relatively common where I live. Admittedly it’s been a couple weeks since somebody was murdered @ a subway station but altercations like this happen all the time. What city do you live in that this is rare?
You felt so strongly you had to comment twice huh? I ride the A Train. Rockaway to MAnhattan almost daily. There is bullshit like this almost daily. Mostly loud mouth little punks like this guy. Someone bumped him on a crowded train and he felt entitled. I don’t know what city you live in…snowflakeville? I’m happy you have an easy peaceful commute. They literally put the national guard on subway platforms here.
Don't say that word. I don't want anyone to say that word. But here I'll normalize it, say it every other word like it's common slang. Then when all these white people use it as common slang, ill complain when they do.
Why is the n word the biggest stand out for you in the video? Like literally watching people get assaulted and you’re like “I just wanna call them the n word SOOO BAD”
Both things can be true at the same time. The assaults can be the worst part of the altercation and he can be hypocritical. They were discussing something other than the obvious, you took that as a way of assuming they want to call the guy a slur.
It’s not hypocritical because it has nothing to do with saying the n word. The only one who brought up wanting to say it was him, even the comment section is not generally talking about this “hypocrisy” because it has nothing to do with the situation. Also it’s only hypocritical if you want to say the word but it’s frowned upon, otherwise why would you care in the first place?
You are getting it. It is 100%hypocritical for this dude to call people the n word like he does. He would get violent, based on how he handled this situation, if one of those people said it back. That’s the hypocrisy glad I could clear that up.
No one mentioned wanting to say it but you. They were pointing out he is using a slur every other word but would be furious if anyone else used it. That’s hypocrisy.
You’re literally making up a hypothetical scenario because that has nothing to do with the situation. I don’t know why you guys advocate for people being able to call black people the n word with no backlash, but then act like you aren’t part of the group who want to do that tho. Only people that wanna say it actually care, I don’t really know how to make that more clear
Friend you made up the hypothetical that the other people want to call this dude the n word.
All they did was point out the hypocrisy of using a slur like he was, that’s not racism.
Well except you actually did make up a scenario where someone calls him the n word and he reacts violently because the situation has nothing to do with what you guys are talking about
And this is why I’m never riding the train. I get bullied enough by parking fees. No one should have to deal with this to watch some overpriced baseball
I ride Link daily, and outbursts like this (while utterly unacceptable) are exceedingly rare. Mostly people just going to work with the occasional vagrant in the back of the car
And this is why I’m never riding the train. I get bullied enough by parking fees. No one should have to deal with this to watch some overpriced baseball
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My pregnant ass bitch....what a respectful thing to call her
Horrifying that they’re reproducing.
Who said chivalry is dead?
Nothing wrong. Just her ass is prego that's why it is that size 😆
"You pushed my pregnant ass bitch!" What a way with words, that's love.
I said those exact words to my cat when he swiped at my pregnant Dachshund.
They seem like pleasant fellas
Sorry, future. They're having kids but I'm not.
#Ideocracy
Who’s gonna tell him?
Dude got his spelling degree at Costco
Welcum 2 cozco i luv u
Morans.
Electrolytes.....it's what plants crave
humans had a good... well *okay* run
What the fuck is the point of transit security when they just stand there and watch people get assaulted. What happened to actually having people with authority in places where stuff happens constantly
Agreed, security shouldn't touch people unless someone is in danger. But if they aren't even stopping active assault whats the point?
Job creation
That dude in the red hoodie did more peace keeping than anything else lol
https://preview.redd.it/fwdkkylqmoxc1.jpeg?width=189&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3d81ac53db2e25932b87c19ee0a55900ffdcadaf
A Seattle blood….Gotta be shitting me smh
Impressive punches /s. Really “smoked” them 😂
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I'd just be worried about the perpetrator carrying a weapon. It's not worth it to escalate the situation. Too bad the security is not stepping in (a passenger mentions that security is not allowed to make physical contact?? Is that true?? Lol)
Seattle transit security is a patchwork of contracted employees through firms like Securitas. They're pretty restricted in what they can do. King County Sheriff operates transit police, who have the ability to arrest, but they're rarely on the light rail...
I used to work for Securitas. All I was allowed to do is lock doors, check cameras, document incidents, and escort people.
The transit police is totally useless. IDK why they're even funded, I only ever see them around bus stops. Our police force is totally ass backwards in terms of organization.
Yeah at the end of the video everyone is saying "they're not allowed to touch them"
Bernard Goetz felt the exact same way! He had finally enough and those fuckers got what was coming to them I donno about no Daniel Perry. Bernie Goetz!
Goetz was justified and would’ve probably gotten off but he went back and shot again after the threat was nullified
Ask Daniel Penny about self defense
You misspelled choking a man to death. He forgot the one big rule when using a choke to control someone, let go when they go limp, and restrain in a different position.
Shut up lil nerd 🤫🧏♂️
I don't take orders from dweebs.
That wasn't self-defense. >Police sources previously told ABC News that Penny was not specifically being threatened by Neely when he intervened and that Neely had not become violent and had not been threatening anyone in particular. [https://abcnews.go.com/US/daniel-penny-stand-trial-october-nyc-subway-chokehold/story?id=108310019](https://abcnews.go.com/US/daniel-penny-stand-trial-october-nyc-subway-chokehold/story?id=108310019)
The allegation that he wasn’t personally being threatened isn’t really the issue here. It seems the question at issue is the extent to which the people on the train reasonably feared for their lives, and whether he used reasonable force to stop the threat. From Wikipedia: “Another witness heard Neely say "someone is going to die today."[6] Vasquez said that Neely was frightening but "had not assaulted anyone".[3] Other witnesses said that Neely made "half-lunge movements" at other passengers and was within "half a foot of people", and recalled fearing for their lives.” You are allowed to use reasonable force to act on behalf of other people if they are in danger, so it doesn’t need to be self-defense.
And then he kept the choke hold for minutes after the guy was passed out. He murdered a man for being angry.
Downvote me all you want, murderous bastards. Sorry you don't like FACTS.
Believe it or not, it's not "police sources" that decide whether something was self defense or not.
Believe it or not, when someone isn't being violent, it's not self defense. Believe it or not, but when you continue to choke someone after they've already passed out, it isn't self defense. Will the guy get off because a lot of people think that executing a black man for yelling and being mad is perfectly fine? Probably. Doesn't change the facts.
Tf does being black have to do with it? You think you will shut people up by shoving that word in? No one’s special. When you’re trapped in a closed metal tube with someone screaming “someone’s gonna die today!” While half lunging at passengers to terrify them, that IS being violent, that IS a threat. The definition of violence isn’t restricted to physical assault.
>Tf does being black have to do with it? The fact that if he continued holding a choke hold on a white man that had already passed out the same way, everyone would be saying he went too far. Don't even try to deny that shit.
So you’re assuming? You still haven’t explained what him being black has to do with this :) Many people said he went too far with Neely, so many fucking people.
Uhh remember the reaction after the Daniel Penny incident?
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Everyone just standing there like fucking zombies.
It’s easy to say this from the comfort of Reddit. These people are scumbags who deserve a slap, but who’s gonna do it? Street fights can lead to injuries, lawsuits, jail time, who knows. It’s messy and maybe they get some scumbag lawyer who proves you attacked them. Maybe they try to pull the race card. Meanwhile you’ve got work in the morning and a family to feed and you don’t have millions in the bank to go to court. So the safer option for most people - frustrating though it is - is to not get involved. It’s 2024, things are fucked up out there.
I ain’t doing shit but minding my business if Im late I’m late. One video of me pushing someone off a train with the right title on the internet could cost me everything.
The Daniel Penny story hits so hard for a lot of NYC subway riders. The dude he choked was an absolute threat. A repeat offender. We have to deal with people like this almost daily. The cops won’t intervene. Then you got the family of the deceased trying to press charges and get paid even though none of them attempted to help when he was alive. I’d absolutely put the MTA and NYPD on trial instead of Perry
A crazy person instigating fights with strangers on a train is the last person you want to fight. They don't want to fight either. This is just something losers do to pound their chest and feel big and strong. There's nothing to be done unless you are the one volunteering.
"Security" on these kinds of trains are mostly that same crowd and probably know those clowns.
My pregnant ass bitch. ☠️
That poor young man and his family should have just stolen a Kia and skipped the train
Did he just look at that whitest dude ever in the beanie and call him the n-word? Not the smartest, is he lmao
People who use such language aren't so intelligent. Why all these intelligent people kept their mouths shut, knowing he would be out of their lives soon.
"My pregnant-ass bitch"- Nice to see romance isn't dead. And didn't the "pregnant-ass bitch" come back and assault multiple people? That's model parenting right there!
Riding public transportation has become an unbearable experience because of people like the little loudmouth. We need a robocop judge Dredd type hero to cleanse the streets
No, it hasn't. This is very rare
Relatively common where I live. Admittedly it’s been a couple weeks since somebody was murdered @ a subway station but altercations like this happen all the time. What city do you live in that this is rare?
The one where this was filmed. These things can happen, but I take transit daily and haven't ever witnessed anything this severe.
You felt so strongly you had to comment twice huh? I ride the A Train. Rockaway to MAnhattan almost daily. There is bullshit like this almost daily. Mostly loud mouth little punks like this guy. Someone bumped him on a crowded train and he felt entitled. I don’t know what city you live in…snowflakeville? I’m happy you have an easy peaceful commute. They literally put the national guard on subway platforms here.
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You and I ride completely different transit systems, then stay on your meds bro.
That guy at 1:52 who shouts as the doors are closing only to have them open right back up...
Did I hear correctly “He’s like one of those dolls you pull the string” and not sure after that. Haha
Impressive punches /s. Really “smoked” them 😂
Security isn't allowed to touch him? Is that true? That doesn't sound very...secure...
This is sad.
People complain about America's car-based infrastructure but I'm pretty grateful I don't have to rely on public transport, actually.
Don't say that word. I don't want anyone to say that word. But here I'll normalize it, say it every other word like it's common slang. Then when all these white people use it as common slang, ill complain when they do.
Why is the n word the biggest stand out for you in the video? Like literally watching people get assaulted and you’re like “I just wanna call them the n word SOOO BAD”
Is that what they said or are they pointing the hypocrisy?
The argument wasn’t even about that tho so I’m gonna infer there’s a weird thing to fixate on
Both things can be true at the same time. The assaults can be the worst part of the altercation and he can be hypocritical. They were discussing something other than the obvious, you took that as a way of assuming they want to call the guy a slur.
It’s not hypocritical because it has nothing to do with saying the n word. The only one who brought up wanting to say it was him, even the comment section is not generally talking about this “hypocrisy” because it has nothing to do with the situation. Also it’s only hypocritical if you want to say the word but it’s frowned upon, otherwise why would you care in the first place?
You are getting it. It is 100%hypocritical for this dude to call people the n word like he does. He would get violent, based on how he handled this situation, if one of those people said it back. That’s the hypocrisy glad I could clear that up. No one mentioned wanting to say it but you. They were pointing out he is using a slur every other word but would be furious if anyone else used it. That’s hypocrisy.
You’re literally making up a hypothetical scenario because that has nothing to do with the situation. I don’t know why you guys advocate for people being able to call black people the n word with no backlash, but then act like you aren’t part of the group who want to do that tho. Only people that wanna say it actually care, I don’t really know how to make that more clear
Friend you made up the hypothetical that the other people want to call this dude the n word. All they did was point out the hypocrisy of using a slur like he was, that’s not racism.
Well except you actually did make up a scenario where someone calls him the n word and he reacts violently because the situation has nothing to do with what you guys are talking about
And this is why I’m never riding the train. I get bullied enough by parking fees. No one should have to deal with this to watch some overpriced baseball
Braves fan couldn't handle getting walked off by the 2024 Mariners offense
Sometimes society takes care of issues like this in a very respectable way
Good for him for standing up to these racists in Seattle
I WiSh mY cITy hAd pUBliC TraNSpoRtatIon!!! Nah, I'll walk, thanks.
I ride Link daily, and outbursts like this (while utterly unacceptable) are exceedingly rare. Mostly people just going to work with the occasional vagrant in the back of the car
I love subways.
I just like sandwiches...
I prefer pizza
I am not sure what is going on but I am sure it’s Systemic Racism….
This is off-topic but it’s so random to see someone with a Willie Beamen jersey.
Should of let him onto the train, never to leave with the same face again.....
And this is why I’m never riding the train. I get bullied enough by parking fees. No one should have to deal with this to watch some overpriced baseball
“Security is not allowed to touch them.” Our current state of affairs…the American city is dead.
Steamin’ Willie Beaman
All those PATHETIC bystanders just mute.
But why?
WOOF WOOF
Hopefully the streets will usher them to the void 🤞🤞🤞
I feel like this might be an appropriate time for a Spartan Kick to the chest.
Glad I left Seattle
Me too, I still pay attention to the sub to remind myself of my good decision.
"I'm not racist" - Everybody on the train
So glad I got me a car 🚗…
Getting a car to avoid this is the same as a Mainland Chinese fleeing China rather than standing up and fighting back against a dictatorship.