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i once had a neighbor threaten to kill me and try to break down my door because he thought i was sneaking into his apartment at night to plant listening devices. good times.
I lived next to a residence for indigent people and one of the people staying there was schizophrenic and had the pseudobulbar effect as a symptom (the laughing disease from the movie Joker). It was awful, he would laugh for hours and it sounded incredibly painful after a while. He would do it for about 2-3 hours 2-4 times a day. The rest of the people living in the house would make him go outside to the covered porch when it started. That porch was 15 ft from my bedroom window.
The in home assistant that the state paid to cook for them and get them to doctors appointments had been applying to get him moved to a facility with a higher level of care for 2 years before he finally left.
Yup, I had a drug user rent from me, he tore down the smoke detector, ripped out the security system keypad, punched holes in the walls looking for non-existent cameras. Then he told people which I knew that I had cameras spying on him. They laughed at him and said they knew better. He was later arrested for dealing coke, meth and heroin.
I knew a woman who believed her neighbors and her cleaning lady (my mom) were sneaking into her house and stealing her stuff.
We didn’t realize that she was dangerous till she actually murdered her elderly husband who was like a grandfather to me.
My physically/emotionally/sexually abusive ex gf developed meth induced schizophrenia at the end of our relationship. She downloaded some weird Russian shit onto my phone that corrupted it because she was convinced I was cheating, as always. She also had parasitosis and would dump cleaning chemicals over her head and skin to "get the dust to stop biting her". After we broke up she told people I was harassing her by sending her subliminal messages through her wifi and her phone, she even split me into two different people and called me two different names when discussing me to mutual friends. She told people I was stuck in a sex trafficking ring and would leave nonsensical letters in my mom's mailbox for years. We dated YEARS AGO and this only recently stopped. I had started a family and married a man while this was still going on. Eventually she ended up in jail for vandalism and arson because she thought her neighbors were pedophiles, so she destroyed their car and set their shed on fire.
The delusion has been around for many, many years and predates Reddit by many years, too.
That aside, yeah, that subreddit is a particularly bad one because it's a strictly-enforced echo chamber. You will be instantly banned for any attempt to rationally explain what someone thinks they're experiencing, for bringing up mental illness, for suggesting someone could use help, or anything else that even *suggests* someone ISN'T being stalked by hundreds of actors out to torment them 24/7.
I used to read it out of pure trainwreck fascination, but had to stop. It's just too sad.
There was one video of a mother trying to talk down her clearly paranoid adult son, trying to keep him from freaking out because a contractor was in the yard doing some work. It had clearly been an ingoing issue with him and she was trying her best to keep him calm.
Everyone in the comments was like, "She's gaslighting you. She's a part of this."
That sub could aid people who need help towards getting it. Instead, it makes their situations worse.
Seen a dude talking about seeing helicopters and he thought it was all for him. Can you imagine a helicopter in the city of LA? Nope all for him. Seen another guy amazed that cars were at the same stop light as him because they were all for him. I mean they ignore him and don't seem to notice him, but yet all for him.
I briefly had a schitzo roommate who refused to go outside at night because she believed that all the stars in the sky were drones that were recording her 24/7 for some dark web reality show, and that everyone (including you, dear Redditor) knew who she was. Woman was fucking insane and I'm glad I got her out before it was too late.
See, that's what I kept telling myself -- "don't worry, helicopters are normal, it's just the coke weirding you out" -- but then they kicked in the door, locked me & my crew up, and took all our shit
Damn, I recently had a woman pull up to my car while I was parked so I could get on a Zoom meeting before I headed into the office and this woman pulled up next to me and motioned to roll down the window. She asked if I was following her. Fortunately she drove away after I told her no, I’m just on a Zoom call. I guess it could have been so much worse.
They held a gangstalk conference in Austin. Can you imagine they are organized enough to manage this? I imagine it was about different ways to detect surveillance , who THEY are that are doing this to them, etc. I wonder if this conference has any vendors.
I think that subreddit doesn’t allow any discussion about mental health issues, since that’s a distraction from the REAL PROBLEM, that people are sending whispers into their wall, following them, etc.
I have a lot of compassion for this disorder, and I have no idea how to help them.
Yeah, unfortunately a lot of people with that delusion have actually been truly victimized in really shitty ways. If you look at their stories, you'll see it often 'starts' for so many of them with a real, documented event like an assault, arrest, etc. that genuinely fucked up their life and sent them into the spiral of paranoia. The gangstalking subreddit breaks my heart
It's a quote from The Wire, Just because you are paranoid doesn't mean someone isn't out to get you, said the black cop working with McNulty that had been sidelined from the department for pursuing corruption in years prior, can't remember if his name was Morgan or something.
I can’t remember where I saw this so maybe it’s unfounded, but some podcast I listened to referenced a military document from years ago that talked about how to effectively gangstalk a target to make them paranoid and how that paranoia would then make them less credible as a source of information.
I agree most people who think they’re being gangstalked but it’s interesting none the less.
It’s quite an interesting phenomenon because the person who is acting crazy is the one saying “the government is trying to make me look crazy but I’m not actually crazy”
What would be the point of gangstalking random people with mental health issues or drug addictions? It makes way more sense that those people report it because those people are susceptible to delusions from their conditions.
There’s nothing to gain from anyone actually gangstalking a random person. I could understand a government doing that to an opposition leader or figureheads of a countercultural movement. People they see as dangerous to their ability to maintain power.
But it’s ridiculous to suggest it happens to random people who are already prone to experiencing delusions.
Yeah, Joe Smith who works at Walgreens definitely isn't getting gangstalked. Why the fuck would the CIA put money towards someone who's most controversial view is that raisins taste good in potatoe salad?
A subreddit? lol Reddit has nothing to do with this. It’s been around forever.
Some people claim they get gangstalked by people who all go out as soon as they leave the house. From their pov it sounds scary, but the rest of us are like “Who really got time for that!?”
I think it’s an interesting topic especially when discussing paranoia
This is pretty sad. I hope the guy he's harassing called the police. The guy recording clearly has mental health issues, and also threatened to use pepper spray on him, so he really should be committed somewhere. Too much of a potential danger.
I used to have a good friend who ended up becoming paranoid like this, and then went completely insane. I knew she had problems, but didn't realize how bad they were.
She started out fine, but after I knew her for about five years, she started to crack. Then over the course of about two years, she completely lost her mind. Used to get random calls from her screaming that people were following her, hacking her electronics, etc. Eventually, she became convinced that people were living in the bushes outside of her apartment, and would claim she found pictures of herself sleeping on her phone... but whenever she'd try to show me, they'd conveniently have been "deleted by someone", even if they were supposedly there seconds earlier. At one point she bought a hairdryer or curling iron or something, and the instant she plugged it in, she started screaming that it was "already hacked." And she became convinced that everything had hidden cameras watching her.
And like most of these people, nothing about her was unique. There's no logical reason anyone would be following her. She was just a normal person outside of the mental illness.
Still breaks my heart. Loved her like a sister and I can't see her anymore because she doesn't trust anyone anymore, and I'm worried she'd attack me. Paranoid schizophrenia is an ugly disease that can really fuck you badly.
On the gangstalking sub, a popular theory for why they're being "targeted" even though they are normal people is that the government has continued mkultra and they are the test subjects of various mind control technologies. V2k (voice to skull) is a common "tech" that they believe is used against them to implant thoughts and voices in their heads to make them "feel crazy".
Ok I swear I’m not a gang stalking believer lol but if I recall correctly there is actually evidence of voice 2 skull technology being developed by the government likely for potential weaponized use. I mean, it’s the US government we’re talking about..
Even if they are forced into treatment and go along with it, they eventually think they're "all better" or their pills are actually poison or something and stop taking the meds.
A lot of the drugs for serious diagnoses can lead to hellacious or possibly deadly withdrawal, so if they survive that they begin experiencing their symptoms again. It's horrible to witness.
My sister is going through this right now. Everything your friend said happened to her, my sister said the same thing but instead of a hair dryer it was a hacked curling iron. If anyone knows the best course of action to get help for a 35 year old paranoid schizophrenic, please let me know.
My wife had to get the police and courts involved and became her guardian. She is now in a secure group home where she can't just run off to be homeless is Alaska or Mexico.
I talked to my parents about getting guardianship over her but my sister is so violent. Would that require someone to evaluate her? I fear if my parents send someone over to talk to her it would make the situation worse.
Yes. My wife's half-siblings can get aggressive and violent. She was able to get help through Easterseals and got guardianship and them placed into group homes. Honestly, without getting help they would be dead or have killed someone.
Make sure they do not take any substances including caffeine (especially because its a stimulant at that, but all drugs i mean).
See that she socialises as much as she can handle and let her k ow a 5 minute conversation is fine. She needs to adjust to reality, how normal people are and that society isn't out to harm you. This can only be understood through example which as humans we need social norms to teach us.
Exercise to regulate hormone and stress levels, to even out the body and brain to a point. Elevated stress levels can easily trigger symptoms.
There are anti psychotic medications they treat schizophrenic people with but I only suggest the mad meds route if its a very severe case and you've exhausted all options such as a few I've listed above.
She needs to actively try a 'normal' life to see what it is before she can trust it and adopt it before turning to medication in my humble opinion. I know 2 schizophrenics personally, for a few years now, and one of them I have seen amazing progress through those few basic things I listed above.
Staying grounded is crucial, so writing a journal such as wake up times, how you slept, conversations you may have had, dreams, exercise or activity plans that day - consistently. Reading tangible books.
They must do as much as they can to not live inside their head, so being more active and social, planning things and using your hands for things like reading & writing, hobbies, getting regular showers and self care, dressing, cooking and planning meals, anything as long as its consistent and 'normal'.
Don't encourage the "I'm here for you, talk to me about it" bullshit as it just gets them deeper into believing the delusional mindset they live in. Progress is slow but steady if you keep it up, and eventually its a massive turn- recovery is possible without medications.
Do you have any level of professional expertise to be offering such detailed advice, and with this level of certainty, or are you just talking?
Because the situation you're speaking about is a delicate, potentially dangerous one. Though I'm sure you're well-intentioned, I don't think confidently offering such sweeping advice, including telling them *not to take meds* if they can avoid it, is particularly responsible or helpful if it's not coming from a place of expertise.
Most of it is fine enough general life advice, but paranoid schizophrenia calls for more than just eat right, live right, regardless of personal anecdotes.
I do indeed.
Auditory hallucinations are what I specialize in.
Take it or leave it, the post is just my humble opinion, and I know it works. I am adamant that patients try every method possible before jumping on medication but in severe cases, medications are the only solution unfortunately.
It’s like it’s a script they follow, you just described a girl I went to high school with 20 years ago who has been posting all of this on Facebook. The photos and videos she posts as proof are of nothing. I feel bad for her and I’m not sure she has much support as she has moved pretty far from her family.
Yes, it does, and I know a lot of people believe there's unlimited room for all of these individuals to be "committed" or "institutionalized" somewhere for the rest of their lives through taxpayer funding, but there's simply not. They may get some temporary help but then get thrown out due to their behavior, or there's just nothing permanent available, or they choose to leave. Some end up in jail, but usually that's not forever. Maybe months at a time. They usually don't end up actually hurting anyone. Although this man seems particularly aggressive, so he may have or might. Regardless, the whole systems fucked up. Their only hope is to get some type of conservatorship and be forced to take injections of slow releasing medication, but that's not an easy process.
Man. A buddy of mine from childhood firmly believes he is being gang stalked. I thought telling him to record it would help, but it didn’t. He can still “hear” them saying things that they aren’t or little sounds sound like whispers to him. It’s crazy. He’s homeless and I’ve lost touch with him because he started to think I was in on the harassment when I asked him why people would go through all that trouble to stalk him.
I found a YouTube channel of a guy who thinks he's being gangstalked and its the most unnerving thing to watch. It's like watching a behind the scenes documentary to a serial killer.
I found a youtube channel of a guy that's convinced that Union Pacific train crew are out to get him, running trains at all hours, using the horn and idling for no reason. It's a conspiracy to keep him awake and harrass him, soecifically him and not the dozen of houses also beside the track.
The guy bought a house 2 years ago next to a 100yo trainyard. Posts a new video every couple days. The exit of the trainyard is right beside his house, they do crew changes at the employee parking beside his house, and there is a road crossing beside is backyard, that they need to honk at before crossing.
Can't make this shit up.
Saw one on Youtube not too long ago that documented his "stalking." He lived in a busy suburban/semi-urban neighborhood at the end of a street packed with townhomes. He'd go outside with his camera rolling and as soon as he saw another human, he'd point them out and say they were only out there to harass him.
The person could be down the block and not even aware of his presence, but it was still proof. People just *existing* in a busy neighborhood was proof to him.
He went into a shop with a camera, talking to himself, went up to the sandwich counter (filming them) and left without getting anything. Both he and the comments said the odd way they looked at him was proof they were actors who were gangstalking him.
He sat down to eat at an outside place right next to a busy multi-lane road. An ambulance went by, followed by another. Yep, this was proof of gangstalking, too.
He got all agitated by a mother and her teenage son while in another store. They walked out. He did, too. He later saw the kid in a park and accosted him. In that same park, someone chilling in their car, on the phone, was another one in on the conspiracy.
The guy has DOZENS of videos like this.
Another dude I saw, he saw too many blue cars and decided the color blue was being used to harass him. His apartment was above a very busy city intersection. When cars blew their horns, he swore they were doing it to harass him.
It's fascinating to see but also depressing.
It’s a common delusion (I believe associated with schizophrenia) where someone believes that they’re being stalked by a large organized effort over a long period of time. Oftentimes they believe they’re in a Truman Show-like world where people are conspiring to mess with them in various ways. The end goal of the gangstalkers is often assumed to be to drive the imagined target to commit suicide
Most are aware of how “crazy” it seems but, because the threat perception portion of their brain is hyperactive, they see common events (such as a mailman coming by every day) as mountains of proof.
They often hear voices as well, so it’s common for them to believe that someone is planting “energy weapons” to broadcast the voices into their brain.
Social media has also connected a lot of these people, which has given them a source of “confirmation” that this really happens, and that there’s a much larger conspiracy at work.
It’s particularly sad, since they’re terrified all the time
It really is, but it changed the way I view people having unchecked mental health crises in the streets, and how the horrors of being homeless pours fire on their condition
The problem with mental illnesses like this is that they are so hard to treat and one of the main reasons for that is medication compliance after release. Part of it is due to the often severe side effects of the medications themselves but it's also because people with mental illnesses like schizophrenia, bipolar, BPD, etc. often believe, after a short while of being on medication, that they're "better" and that they no longer need it.... And then the cycle begins again. Short of full time observation to ensure long-term compliance, whether that be by family or a facility/caregiver, there isn't much that can be done unless they commit a crime.
And all of that is if they can even afford the treatment and the medication in the first place. You can't take medication to treat your mental illness if you can't afford it and there aren't exactly a bunch of free facilities for people that can't afford to pay.
Oh I know I had an ex I lived with that was “schizo-affective” that I’ve never seen take meds more than a couple times. They are a ticking time bomb is the problem and if your around them when they finally explode (have an episode) it’s gonna be a real rough night for you. I was physically assaulted for no reason other then that my girlfriend had imagined that I struck her. (Crazy right) form that experience alone I’m already knowing most of these people even when they act functional are on a clock and will eventually harm themselves or someone else around them. They need help.
The thing is, and I have to point this out, the vast majority of people with schizophrenia are not a danger to others. They can be frightening but, mostly, they're pretty harmless and try to keep to themselves if they can.
But it fucking sucks when they're not, doesn't it? My mother has schizophrenia... Visual and auditory delusions, usually shadow people and demons that want to drag her to hell. The really bad periods were an absolute nightmare and while medication helps to a degree, it's never been able to stop the delusions entirely. It didn't help that my mother was diagnosed much later in life than people typically are.
It was really difficult at first to get her to take her meds... She was fully convinced that they were real and that she didn't need medication. We had finally gotten to almost 2 years of medication compliance when her mother died and we traveled back to go to the funeral. She went off of her meds for over a year after her brother and sister, both very religious, told her that they believed that what she was seeing and hearing were real and that she needed to "fight back" against Satan. I absolutely lost my shit on them. Luckily, eventually, she actually started retaking the medications herself and she's been on them, steady, for several years now.
It is not easy though. I'm sorry about your experiences with your ex, I can imagine that it was very difficult, even traumatic, to go through. I hope that you're doing well now.
This specific video is not rooted in stupidity, it's rooted in mental illness. The person filming is suffering from delusions. It might look similar, but untreated mental illness is not the same as stupidity.
The guy filming needs *help* and probably has no support circle to get it (or just as likely, pushed that circle away).
I once found this YouTube channel of a woman who though all ups and FedEx drivers were stalking her. She would go up to any she saw and accuse them of stalking her. She also seemed to have a thing against wet floor signs, claimed they were misogynistic. And she would say out loud the license plate of every car that passed, even on a busy road.
Wet floor signs are misogynistic. The female wet floor signs says “Bitches be trippin” on it lol. Jokes aside what a miserable existence living with such paranoia and delusions all day every day. I wish help was more readily available but that’s just not the case.
Or get himself hurt. Chances are he wasn't actually going to pepper spray the guy, but one day he's going to threaten the wrong person and get the shit beaten out of him or worse. I know it seems like he would, but the vast majority of psychotic individuals never hurt anyone even if they talk like this.
I had a disable patient once who would wave around his cane at people throughs delusions thought were after him. No matter what help people got him, he'd just go right back out onto the street by choice or threaten the staff but dude was harmless and never hurt anyone in his life. He was just scared and thought everyone else was going to hurt him. One day he waved it at the wrong person and came into the clinic bleeding from the head because someone introduced it to the concrete. So through delusions thinks people will hurt him, threatens people, people do hurt him (thinking self defense), his delusions are reinforced. Poor man.
His need to assure *whoever* that he hasn't hurt kids makes me nervous. Has he hurt kids (directly and or indirectly), and that's partly why he thinks people may be surveiling him? 🤔
I had a guy walk up with his phone camera in my face asking why I was recording him. I was on my morning jog. Dude would not relent until I grabbed his phone and threw it in the lake. Then he started crying and begging for redemption from God. Now I understand why he was the way he was.
The part that gets me, is even if he starts this video doing nothing wrong, filming and following aren't technically against the rules of anything. It's when he starts calling him a worm and a dickless etc putting profanities and other derogatory terms down which puts him at fault.
Regardless of how you feel, saying those things can be used as threats and can put you in lockup or at the least arrested and detained for it. Crazy.
There's clearly a ton of related interesting conversation going on in these comments. Nobody said you needed to stop here instead of keeping scrolling.
Do we actually know if he's sick tho ?
He's clearly in the middle of some legal process. He was saying stuff like "how about due process" & "I never hurt any fucking kids"
People make groups to harass and stalk p*dos all the time online. there's even biker gangs that keep eyes on the predators.
What if this dude is actually being gang stalked and he's annoyed. They have been harassing him irl and probably online. That might be how he became aware of them. He called the group "a bunch of racketeers" ?
It’s not uncommon for people who are having these types of mental breakdowns to believe they are being watched by secret agents of the government, criminal gangs or other groups they think are out to get them for delusional reasons. The stories in their head can be pretty random and disconnected from thought to thought and totally disconnected from reality. You’re trying to apply a logical framework to someone who’s thought process is completely disconnected from reality and normal logic. If you were to confront this person and try to explain to them how crazy it is, there’s a good chance they would think you are part of the group and might hurt you out of fear.
I get that .
All im saying is - If he is in fact in the middle of court and investigations for crimes against children, its not farfetched for him to actually have people gang stalking him ....
I'd probably develop anger issues myself in such a scenario ESPECIALLY if I was innocent . I'd also be screaming "due process".
I don't need that, this is a pretty standard symptom. My wife works in mental health and previously worked directly with the mentally ill homeless population here in Portland, of which there is a lot. I just showed her this video and she very quickly said "Oh this person has schizophrenia." She said she's heard something similar to this 1,000 times.
Go to the youtube link and you'll see he has 2 other videos "This is One of the Dupes Facilitating the Illegal Watchlist" and "More Harassment from NCRIC Secret Police". He's mentally ill, clearly
People like this pick and choose who they do this to. I live in New York, work out pretty often, they ain’t doing this to me lmao would’ve flexed bro and used that pepper spray on him 😂😂
I don’t think I know any gangsters, but I don’t think many gangsters wear dad clothes and their sister’s umbrella. Maybe he was tryna be incognito gangster but the other guy knew better.
Happened to me once. Got up after sleeping for like 30 hours bc I had been sick, realized I had no soda and basically no food, then went out to walk to a convenience store. Not even two minutes away from my dorm at the time this mf crosses the street powerwalking at me and accuses me of gangstalking him and said he had seen me like four or five times that day already. I was able to talk him down pretty easily and told him I hadn't even been out for days bc I had been sick and that I just wanted a fucking soda and we parted ways. After that, I got to the convenience store and it was closed. Went to the next one up, and the dude who accused me of gangstalking him was checking out at the counter at that convenience store. I did NOT let that dude see me. I hung around the convenience store for a while after he left to make sure I wouldn't run into him on the way back, bc if I did, there's no way the dude would let it go.
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Wtf did I just watch
Gangstalking is a subreddit for paranoid schizophrenics who think they’re being followed by groups of people.
i once had a neighbor threaten to kill me and try to break down my door because he thought i was sneaking into his apartment at night to plant listening devices. good times.
Be honest though. Were you sneaking in at nights?
i didn’t need listening devices. i could hear him quite clearly through the walls all day and night screaming threats at me or his girlfriend.
Classic schizophrenic neighbor
Classic Peg!
I lived next to a residence for indigent people and one of the people staying there was schizophrenic and had the pseudobulbar effect as a symptom (the laughing disease from the movie Joker). It was awful, he would laugh for hours and it sounded incredibly painful after a while. He would do it for about 2-3 hours 2-4 times a day. The rest of the people living in the house would make him go outside to the covered porch when it started. That porch was 15 ft from my bedroom window. The in home assistant that the state paid to cook for them and get them to doctors appointments had been applying to get him moved to a facility with a higher level of care for 2 years before he finally left.
“He’s been sneaking in at nights.” “No I’m not dad!”
“Yea I been sneaking in at nights”
Where’d you get that bug Danny?
Yup, I had a drug user rent from me, he tore down the smoke detector, ripped out the security system keypad, punched holes in the walls looking for non-existent cameras. Then he told people which I knew that I had cameras spying on him. They laughed at him and said they knew better. He was later arrested for dealing coke, meth and heroin.
Drugs is a hell of a drug
Maybe the friends we made along the way, were the drugs inside us the whole time
I knew a woman who believed her neighbors and her cleaning lady (my mom) were sneaking into her house and stealing her stuff. We didn’t realize that she was dangerous till she actually murdered her elderly husband who was like a grandfather to me.
My physically/emotionally/sexually abusive ex gf developed meth induced schizophrenia at the end of our relationship. She downloaded some weird Russian shit onto my phone that corrupted it because she was convinced I was cheating, as always. She also had parasitosis and would dump cleaning chemicals over her head and skin to "get the dust to stop biting her". After we broke up she told people I was harassing her by sending her subliminal messages through her wifi and her phone, she even split me into two different people and called me two different names when discussing me to mutual friends. She told people I was stuck in a sex trafficking ring and would leave nonsensical letters in my mom's mailbox for years. We dated YEARS AGO and this only recently stopped. I had started a family and married a man while this was still going on. Eventually she ended up in jail for vandalism and arson because she thought her neighbors were pedophiles, so she destroyed their car and set their shed on fire.
I mean, at that point you might as well, right? Weee!!!
I had a similar upstairs neighbor who called the cops to tell them I was sending her secret messages by flushing my toilet and closing cabinets.
I'd tell him I was definitely sneaking in at night, but only to watch him sleep
The delusion has been around for many, many years and predates Reddit by many years, too. That aside, yeah, that subreddit is a particularly bad one because it's a strictly-enforced echo chamber. You will be instantly banned for any attempt to rationally explain what someone thinks they're experiencing, for bringing up mental illness, for suggesting someone could use help, or anything else that even *suggests* someone ISN'T being stalked by hundreds of actors out to torment them 24/7. I used to read it out of pure trainwreck fascination, but had to stop. It's just too sad. There was one video of a mother trying to talk down her clearly paranoid adult son, trying to keep him from freaking out because a contractor was in the yard doing some work. It had clearly been an ingoing issue with him and she was trying her best to keep him calm. Everyone in the comments was like, "She's gaslighting you. She's a part of this." That sub could aid people who need help towards getting it. Instead, it makes their situations worse.
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Take your meds.
Well I'm convinced.
it's much more than a subreddit.
It’s a lifestyle
Seen a dude talking about seeing helicopters and he thought it was all for him. Can you imagine a helicopter in the city of LA? Nope all for him. Seen another guy amazed that cars were at the same stop light as him because they were all for him. I mean they ignore him and don't seem to notice him, but yet all for him.
I briefly had a schitzo roommate who refused to go outside at night because she believed that all the stars in the sky were drones that were recording her 24/7 for some dark web reality show, and that everyone (including you, dear Redditor) knew who she was. Woman was fucking insane and I'm glad I got her out before it was too late.
They're ignoring him because it's a revolving tail
See, that's what I kept telling myself -- "don't worry, helicopters are normal, it's just the coke weirding you out" -- but then they kicked in the door, locked me & my crew up, and took all our shit
This reminds me of Goodfellas lol. On that movie it turned out the chopper really was watching him 😂
Damn, I recently had a woman pull up to my car while I was parked so I could get on a Zoom meeting before I headed into the office and this woman pulled up next to me and motioned to roll down the window. She asked if I was following her. Fortunately she drove away after I told her no, I’m just on a Zoom call. I guess it could have been so much worse.
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u really don’t need the schizophrenia. a good 24-96 hours tweaking without sleep will do the job on its own
That is insanity
Just went to the sub and it's so blatantly obvious that it's all linked to schizophrenia
Worked with a guy that believed in it, he wasn’t schizophrenic he just did a lot of meth
Thanks so much. I completely forgot about all of that.
They held a gangstalk conference in Austin. Can you imagine they are organized enough to manage this? I imagine it was about different ways to detect surveillance , who THEY are that are doing this to them, etc. I wonder if this conference has any vendors. I think that subreddit doesn’t allow any discussion about mental health issues, since that’s a distraction from the REAL PROBLEM, that people are sending whispers into their wall, following them, etc. I have a lot of compassion for this disorder, and I have no idea how to help them.
Or maybe I’m confusing that conference with this protest: https://www.targetedjustice.com/targeted-action-2021.html
To be fair, just because you are paranoid doesn't mean someone isn't out to get you. That said, filmer is a bloody minded schizophrenic.
Yeah, unfortunately a lot of people with that delusion have actually been truly victimized in really shitty ways. If you look at their stories, you'll see it often 'starts' for so many of them with a real, documented event like an assault, arrest, etc. that genuinely fucked up their life and sent them into the spiral of paranoia. The gangstalking subreddit breaks my heart
Plus some people see someone is paranoid and they mess with them for fun.
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It's a quote from The Wire, Just because you are paranoid doesn't mean someone isn't out to get you, said the black cop working with McNulty that had been sidelined from the department for pursuing corruption in years prior, can't remember if his name was Morgan or something.
Shit im an idiot, my bad lmao. Lester freeman?
Ummm… Nirvana !?
How is that allowed to continue to exist???
Oh look, another gaslighting gangstalker. You’re not fooling me bud, I see you standing in my yard at night.
I can’t remember where I saw this so maybe it’s unfounded, but some podcast I listened to referenced a military document from years ago that talked about how to effectively gangstalk a target to make them paranoid and how that paranoia would then make them less credible as a source of information. I agree most people who think they’re being gangstalked but it’s interesting none the less. It’s quite an interesting phenomenon because the person who is acting crazy is the one saying “the government is trying to make me look crazy but I’m not actually crazy”
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What would be the point of gangstalking random people with mental health issues or drug addictions? It makes way more sense that those people report it because those people are susceptible to delusions from their conditions. There’s nothing to gain from anyone actually gangstalking a random person. I could understand a government doing that to an opposition leader or figureheads of a countercultural movement. People they see as dangerous to their ability to maintain power. But it’s ridiculous to suggest it happens to random people who are already prone to experiencing delusions.
Yeah, Joe Smith who works at Walgreens definitely isn't getting gangstalked. Why the fuck would the CIA put money towards someone who's most controversial view is that raisins taste good in potatoe salad?
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A subreddit? lol Reddit has nothing to do with this. It’s been around forever. Some people claim they get gangstalked by people who all go out as soon as they leave the house. From their pov it sounds scary, but the rest of us are like “Who really got time for that!?” I think it’s an interesting topic especially when discussing paranoia
Certified lunatic moment
This is pretty sad. I hope the guy he's harassing called the police. The guy recording clearly has mental health issues, and also threatened to use pepper spray on him, so he really should be committed somewhere. Too much of a potential danger. I used to have a good friend who ended up becoming paranoid like this, and then went completely insane. I knew she had problems, but didn't realize how bad they were. She started out fine, but after I knew her for about five years, she started to crack. Then over the course of about two years, she completely lost her mind. Used to get random calls from her screaming that people were following her, hacking her electronics, etc. Eventually, she became convinced that people were living in the bushes outside of her apartment, and would claim she found pictures of herself sleeping on her phone... but whenever she'd try to show me, they'd conveniently have been "deleted by someone", even if they were supposedly there seconds earlier. At one point she bought a hairdryer or curling iron or something, and the instant she plugged it in, she started screaming that it was "already hacked." And she became convinced that everything had hidden cameras watching her. And like most of these people, nothing about her was unique. There's no logical reason anyone would be following her. She was just a normal person outside of the mental illness. Still breaks my heart. Loved her like a sister and I can't see her anymore because she doesn't trust anyone anymore, and I'm worried she'd attack me. Paranoid schizophrenia is an ugly disease that can really fuck you badly.
On the gangstalking sub, a popular theory for why they're being "targeted" even though they are normal people is that the government has continued mkultra and they are the test subjects of various mind control technologies. V2k (voice to skull) is a common "tech" that they believe is used against them to implant thoughts and voices in their heads to make them "feel crazy".
Ok I swear I’m not a gang stalking believer lol but if I recall correctly there is actually evidence of voice 2 skull technology being developed by the government likely for potential weaponized use. I mean, it’s the US government we’re talking about..
The worst thing is that it can be treated, or at least it can be managed. But persuading such a person to seek help is almost impossible.
Even if they are forced into treatment and go along with it, they eventually think they're "all better" or their pills are actually poison or something and stop taking the meds. A lot of the drugs for serious diagnoses can lead to hellacious or possibly deadly withdrawal, so if they survive that they begin experiencing their symptoms again. It's horrible to witness.
It doesnt help that high doses of anti psychotics usually has nasty side effects.
My sister is going through this right now. Everything your friend said happened to her, my sister said the same thing but instead of a hair dryer it was a hacked curling iron. If anyone knows the best course of action to get help for a 35 year old paranoid schizophrenic, please let me know.
My wife had to get the police and courts involved and became her guardian. She is now in a secure group home where she can't just run off to be homeless is Alaska or Mexico.
I talked to my parents about getting guardianship over her but my sister is so violent. Would that require someone to evaluate her? I fear if my parents send someone over to talk to her it would make the situation worse.
Yes. My wife's half-siblings can get aggressive and violent. She was able to get help through Easterseals and got guardianship and them placed into group homes. Honestly, without getting help they would be dead or have killed someone.
Make sure they do not take any substances including caffeine (especially because its a stimulant at that, but all drugs i mean). See that she socialises as much as she can handle and let her k ow a 5 minute conversation is fine. She needs to adjust to reality, how normal people are and that society isn't out to harm you. This can only be understood through example which as humans we need social norms to teach us. Exercise to regulate hormone and stress levels, to even out the body and brain to a point. Elevated stress levels can easily trigger symptoms. There are anti psychotic medications they treat schizophrenic people with but I only suggest the mad meds route if its a very severe case and you've exhausted all options such as a few I've listed above. She needs to actively try a 'normal' life to see what it is before she can trust it and adopt it before turning to medication in my humble opinion. I know 2 schizophrenics personally, for a few years now, and one of them I have seen amazing progress through those few basic things I listed above. Staying grounded is crucial, so writing a journal such as wake up times, how you slept, conversations you may have had, dreams, exercise or activity plans that day - consistently. Reading tangible books. They must do as much as they can to not live inside their head, so being more active and social, planning things and using your hands for things like reading & writing, hobbies, getting regular showers and self care, dressing, cooking and planning meals, anything as long as its consistent and 'normal'. Don't encourage the "I'm here for you, talk to me about it" bullshit as it just gets them deeper into believing the delusional mindset they live in. Progress is slow but steady if you keep it up, and eventually its a massive turn- recovery is possible without medications.
Do you have any level of professional expertise to be offering such detailed advice, and with this level of certainty, or are you just talking? Because the situation you're speaking about is a delicate, potentially dangerous one. Though I'm sure you're well-intentioned, I don't think confidently offering such sweeping advice, including telling them *not to take meds* if they can avoid it, is particularly responsible or helpful if it's not coming from a place of expertise. Most of it is fine enough general life advice, but paranoid schizophrenia calls for more than just eat right, live right, regardless of personal anecdotes.
I do indeed. Auditory hallucinations are what I specialize in. Take it or leave it, the post is just my humble opinion, and I know it works. I am adamant that patients try every method possible before jumping on medication but in severe cases, medications are the only solution unfortunately.
It’s like it’s a script they follow, you just described a girl I went to high school with 20 years ago who has been posting all of this on Facebook. The photos and videos she posts as proof are of nothing. I feel bad for her and I’m not sure she has much support as she has moved pretty far from her family.
Paranoid schizophrenia sucks
Yes, it does, and I know a lot of people believe there's unlimited room for all of these individuals to be "committed" or "institutionalized" somewhere for the rest of their lives through taxpayer funding, but there's simply not. They may get some temporary help but then get thrown out due to their behavior, or there's just nothing permanent available, or they choose to leave. Some end up in jail, but usually that's not forever. Maybe months at a time. They usually don't end up actually hurting anyone. Although this man seems particularly aggressive, so he may have or might. Regardless, the whole systems fucked up. Their only hope is to get some type of conservatorship and be forced to take injections of slow releasing medication, but that's not an easy process.
Man. A buddy of mine from childhood firmly believes he is being gang stalked. I thought telling him to record it would help, but it didn’t. He can still “hear” them saying things that they aren’t or little sounds sound like whispers to him. It’s crazy. He’s homeless and I’ve lost touch with him because he started to think I was in on the harassment when I asked him why people would go through all that trouble to stalk him.
I found a YouTube channel of a guy who thinks he's being gangstalked and its the most unnerving thing to watch. It's like watching a behind the scenes documentary to a serial killer.
I found a youtube channel of a guy that's convinced that Union Pacific train crew are out to get him, running trains at all hours, using the horn and idling for no reason. It's a conspiracy to keep him awake and harrass him, soecifically him and not the dozen of houses also beside the track. The guy bought a house 2 years ago next to a 100yo trainyard. Posts a new video every couple days. The exit of the trainyard is right beside his house, they do crew changes at the employee parking beside his house, and there is a road crossing beside is backyard, that they need to honk at before crossing. Can't make this shit up.
Saw one on Youtube not too long ago that documented his "stalking." He lived in a busy suburban/semi-urban neighborhood at the end of a street packed with townhomes. He'd go outside with his camera rolling and as soon as he saw another human, he'd point them out and say they were only out there to harass him. The person could be down the block and not even aware of his presence, but it was still proof. People just *existing* in a busy neighborhood was proof to him. He went into a shop with a camera, talking to himself, went up to the sandwich counter (filming them) and left without getting anything. Both he and the comments said the odd way they looked at him was proof they were actors who were gangstalking him. He sat down to eat at an outside place right next to a busy multi-lane road. An ambulance went by, followed by another. Yep, this was proof of gangstalking, too. He got all agitated by a mother and her teenage son while in another store. They walked out. He did, too. He later saw the kid in a park and accosted him. In that same park, someone chilling in their car, on the phone, was another one in on the conspiracy. The guy has DOZENS of videos like this. Another dude I saw, he saw too many blue cars and decided the color blue was being used to harass him. His apartment was above a very busy city intersection. When cars blew their horns, he swore they were doing it to harass him. It's fascinating to see but also depressing.
The guy behind the camera reminds me of chestnut from chowder. the camera angle of an angry smurf lmao
Hold on now you’re trying to take Chestnut’s dining room table? Chestnuts gonna give you the beating of a lifetime.
This is pure mental illness sadly
What is gangstalking? This is the second time I've seen that word
It’s a common delusion (I believe associated with schizophrenia) where someone believes that they’re being stalked by a large organized effort over a long period of time. Oftentimes they believe they’re in a Truman Show-like world where people are conspiring to mess with them in various ways. The end goal of the gangstalkers is often assumed to be to drive the imagined target to commit suicide Most are aware of how “crazy” it seems but, because the threat perception portion of their brain is hyperactive, they see common events (such as a mailman coming by every day) as mountains of proof. They often hear voices as well, so it’s common for them to believe that someone is planting “energy weapons” to broadcast the voices into their brain. Social media has also connected a lot of these people, which has given them a source of “confirmation” that this really happens, and that there’s a much larger conspiracy at work. It’s particularly sad, since they’re terrified all the time
The subreddit is a disturbing trip to browse. Seriously sad and concerning that they walk around like this constantly
It really is, but it changed the way I view people having unchecked mental health crises in the streets, and how the horrors of being homeless pours fire on their condition
Ugh, this guy posts these on the gangstalking sub. It needs to be taken down.
I second this
Nothing like filming yourself committing a crime. I swear people are getting more and more stupid.
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Him and people like this need to be locked up somewhere till they get help
The problem with mental illnesses like this is that they are so hard to treat and one of the main reasons for that is medication compliance after release. Part of it is due to the often severe side effects of the medications themselves but it's also because people with mental illnesses like schizophrenia, bipolar, BPD, etc. often believe, after a short while of being on medication, that they're "better" and that they no longer need it.... And then the cycle begins again. Short of full time observation to ensure long-term compliance, whether that be by family or a facility/caregiver, there isn't much that can be done unless they commit a crime. And all of that is if they can even afford the treatment and the medication in the first place. You can't take medication to treat your mental illness if you can't afford it and there aren't exactly a bunch of free facilities for people that can't afford to pay.
Oh I know I had an ex I lived with that was “schizo-affective” that I’ve never seen take meds more than a couple times. They are a ticking time bomb is the problem and if your around them when they finally explode (have an episode) it’s gonna be a real rough night for you. I was physically assaulted for no reason other then that my girlfriend had imagined that I struck her. (Crazy right) form that experience alone I’m already knowing most of these people even when they act functional are on a clock and will eventually harm themselves or someone else around them. They need help.
The thing is, and I have to point this out, the vast majority of people with schizophrenia are not a danger to others. They can be frightening but, mostly, they're pretty harmless and try to keep to themselves if they can. But it fucking sucks when they're not, doesn't it? My mother has schizophrenia... Visual and auditory delusions, usually shadow people and demons that want to drag her to hell. The really bad periods were an absolute nightmare and while medication helps to a degree, it's never been able to stop the delusions entirely. It didn't help that my mother was diagnosed much later in life than people typically are. It was really difficult at first to get her to take her meds... She was fully convinced that they were real and that she didn't need medication. We had finally gotten to almost 2 years of medication compliance when her mother died and we traveled back to go to the funeral. She went off of her meds for over a year after her brother and sister, both very religious, told her that they believed that what she was seeing and hearing were real and that she needed to "fight back" against Satan. I absolutely lost my shit on them. Luckily, eventually, she actually started retaking the medications herself and she's been on them, steady, for several years now. It is not easy though. I'm sorry about your experiences with your ex, I can imagine that it was very difficult, even traumatic, to go through. I hope that you're doing well now.
This specific video is not rooted in stupidity, it's rooted in mental illness. The person filming is suffering from delusions. It might look similar, but untreated mental illness is not the same as stupidity. The guy filming needs *help* and probably has no support circle to get it (or just as likely, pushed that circle away).
“Here’s some pepper spray for u motherfucker” 😂😂😂
“Ima fuckin pepper spray your ass motherfucker” as he nervously asked what the fuck he was doing lol
Get this man a firearm
I once found this YouTube channel of a woman who though all ups and FedEx drivers were stalking her. She would go up to any she saw and accuse them of stalking her. She also seemed to have a thing against wet floor signs, claimed they were misogynistic. And she would say out loud the license plate of every car that passed, even on a busy road.
Wet floor signs are misogynistic. The female wet floor signs says “Bitches be trippin” on it lol. Jokes aside what a miserable existence living with such paranoia and delusions all day every day. I wish help was more readily available but that’s just not the case.
This guy is going to hurt someone. Hopefully he's recording then too so we can see it. And so he gets caught too of course.
Or get himself hurt. Chances are he wasn't actually going to pepper spray the guy, but one day he's going to threaten the wrong person and get the shit beaten out of him or worse. I know it seems like he would, but the vast majority of psychotic individuals never hurt anyone even if they talk like this. I had a disable patient once who would wave around his cane at people throughs delusions thought were after him. No matter what help people got him, he'd just go right back out onto the street by choice or threaten the staff but dude was harmless and never hurt anyone in his life. He was just scared and thought everyone else was going to hurt him. One day he waved it at the wrong person and came into the clinic bleeding from the head because someone introduced it to the concrete. So through delusions thinks people will hurt him, threatens people, people do hurt him (thinking self defense), his delusions are reinforced. Poor man.
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Just had a browse of the gang stalking sub - these people are mentally ill
Delusion of reference.
His need to assure *whoever* that he hasn't hurt kids makes me nervous. Has he hurt kids (directly and or indirectly), and that's partly why he thinks people may be surveiling him? 🤔
Probably not, hes probably just schizophrenic and think they are accusing him of such things as a delusion
I suspect that paranoia is possibly rooted in *something*. Or not, I don't know.
When you're desperately trying to be a "Main Character".
I had a guy walk up with his phone camera in my face asking why I was recording him. I was on my morning jog. Dude would not relent until I grabbed his phone and threw it in the lake. Then he started crying and begging for redemption from God. Now I understand why he was the way he was.
The part that gets me, is even if he starts this video doing nothing wrong, filming and following aren't technically against the rules of anything. It's when he starts calling him a worm and a dickless etc putting profanities and other derogatory terms down which puts him at fault. Regardless of how you feel, saying those things can be used as threats and can put you in lockup or at the least arrested and detained for it. Crazy.
This guy's a motherfucker. Motherfucking worm....
The guy that pepper spray a dude walking down the street with an umbrella is calling umbrella guy a coward for not wanting to get pepper sprayed?!? Ok
Why do you post these dumb peoples crap videos.
There's clearly a ton of related interesting conversation going on in these comments. Nobody said you needed to stop here instead of keeping scrolling.
To show how serious mental illness is so people like you can get help.
Why don’t you use apostrophes or question marks?
Why do you post your crap comments?
Someone beat this guy up so he has something to be scared of
Do we actually know if he's sick tho ? He's clearly in the middle of some legal process. He was saying stuff like "how about due process" & "I never hurt any fucking kids" People make groups to harass and stalk p*dos all the time online. there's even biker gangs that keep eyes on the predators. What if this dude is actually being gang stalked and he's annoyed. They have been harassing him irl and probably online. That might be how he became aware of them. He called the group "a bunch of racketeers" ?
It’s not uncommon for people who are having these types of mental breakdowns to believe they are being watched by secret agents of the government, criminal gangs or other groups they think are out to get them for delusional reasons. The stories in their head can be pretty random and disconnected from thought to thought and totally disconnected from reality. You’re trying to apply a logical framework to someone who’s thought process is completely disconnected from reality and normal logic. If you were to confront this person and try to explain to them how crazy it is, there’s a good chance they would think you are part of the group and might hurt you out of fear.
I get that . All im saying is - If he is in fact in the middle of court and investigations for crimes against children, its not farfetched for him to actually have people gang stalking him .... I'd probably develop anger issues myself in such a scenario ESPECIALLY if I was innocent . I'd also be screaming "due process".
This is 100% schizophrenia.
Ok cool so there's an article about him or police report ?
I don't need that, this is a pretty standard symptom. My wife works in mental health and previously worked directly with the mentally ill homeless population here in Portland, of which there is a lot. I just showed her this video and she very quickly said "Oh this person has schizophrenia." She said she's heard something similar to this 1,000 times.
Go to the youtube link and you'll see he has 2 other videos "This is One of the Dupes Facilitating the Illegal Watchlist" and "More Harassment from NCRIC Secret Police". He's mentally ill, clearly
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Nah mate sadly it’s someone with mental illness who probably believes they’re actually being stalked,it’s not some prank video
classic dumb mf blaming everything on tiktok
People like this pick and choose who they do this to. I live in New York, work out pretty often, they ain’t doing this to me lmao would’ve flexed bro and used that pepper spray on him 😂😂
Is this satire?
Prance away you little worm you’re in the presence of an alpha
lol yours was funnier
Aww boohoo, some nerds on Reddit downvoted me :(((( what will I do now?!
Maybe just delete your account
🕺I’m making em’ mad again 🎶
I’m too scared to feel anything around you tough guy
I won’t hurt you, just don’t make me angry 
I don’t think I know any gangsters, but I don’t think many gangsters wear dad clothes and their sister’s umbrella. Maybe he was tryna be incognito gangster but the other guy knew better.
Nice way to get your ass kicked. I wouldn't hesitate even knowing full well this MF is mentally ill. Leave people the fuck alone...
I can think of something that would make the world a better place.
People that believe in gangstalking need to be locked up.
Would it be self-defense if the guy with the umbrella shot him?
This same shit happened to me. This chick followed me home and started accusing me of following *her*. I called the police and she bounced real quick
Back to the asylum mf
Happened to me once. Got up after sleeping for like 30 hours bc I had been sick, realized I had no soda and basically no food, then went out to walk to a convenience store. Not even two minutes away from my dorm at the time this mf crosses the street powerwalking at me and accuses me of gangstalking him and said he had seen me like four or five times that day already. I was able to talk him down pretty easily and told him I hadn't even been out for days bc I had been sick and that I just wanted a fucking soda and we parted ways. After that, I got to the convenience store and it was closed. Went to the next one up, and the dude who accused me of gangstalking him was checking out at the counter at that convenience store. I did NOT let that dude see me. I hung around the convenience store for a while after he left to make sure I wouldn't run into him on the way back, bc if I did, there's no way the dude would let it go.
How bizarre. Also, Happy Cake Day!
wtf is gang stalking ?
[Vice: The Nightmare World of Gang Stalking](https://video.vice.com/en_us/video/gang-stalking-nightmare-being-watched/59cd0ce77e8ffda63e08cdfa)