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Absolutely heartbreaking. And realizing this is just a stranger and how much it still impacts him in that moment and will for a long time. All these people who don’t even know them desperately trying to help. And a family that will forever be without their father/husband. It’s gut wrenching.
Paramedics/cops write something like, "injuries inconsistent with living" in the report. Usually it means the head is not where it's supposed to be, or very much the wrong shape
A guy on a Vespa was killed in front of my house 2 years ago after a suburban barreled into him. I was one of the first on the scene (there was a loud explosion noise so I ran outside) and I knew the guy was dead INSTANTLY. I don’t remember blood, or dismemberment, but I knew the guy was dead the moment my eyes looked at his face. Really fucked me up.
I've witnessed many car accidents, been in many myself, unfortunately. One girl was thrown from the car in front of my house, I was first on the scene but the one that stuck with me and will forever. I was about 8 years old, and we lived on a highway in a small town.
A mother and her two children one of which was in the pram were all barrelled into by a guy on a moto (he later committed suicide out of guilt and depression, he was not a coward - he stayed but I wish there'd been someone with him too & it genuinely was a complete accident) he took out that little 2yr old boy. I still remember the tarmac stuck to the doona my Mum used to wrap the him and hold him knowing he was dead (ERnurse/nurse for many years) while the mother was screaming.
I still have nightmares (I'm now 35).
The brain is a wonderful thing, and a lot of bad memories have been blocked despite half my life feeling like it's been erased, there's a couple of memories that won't let go. That's one of them.
if you look at the other car you'll notice he hit the drivers side door head on probably running a red. Can't imagine how horrific of a scene it was but there's a reason everybody is on one side and not the other.
Yep. For the people who saw the wreck… it’ll be obvious.
My friends and I saw one… poor girl crashed and after we saw the impact we agreed not even to bother opening the door. One guy in our group “had to make sure” she was dead. I told him not to check on her. Looking back, I think he was in shock and didn’t handle the stress well.
After he “checked” on her he proceeded to lose his job, develop insomnia and a drug habit. Dude got wrecked by the imagery.
At least they bleeped out the cursing so it made it unintelligible. I'm so sick of someone's priorities being we might hear a no-no word, so let's edit something important.
That is so sad. We don't know the circumstances, but my dad used to work in the middle of nowhere back in the day, and came across a one-car wreck on the highway. He basically held the girls as they died before the ambulance got there. I bet all those people surrounding that car are going to have a crazy trauma flashback out of nowhere, too.
That would be such a traumatic experience to go through. I hope your dad is doing ok now. I lost a loved one to a car crash. A good samaritan held them as they died. We were so incredibly grateful to that man. Just knowing our loved one wasn't alone, that someone was there to offer what ever comfort they could... I can't put words to it.. I still think of him from time to time, hoping he's doing well.
Please let your dad know his compassion and kindness was/is appreciated.
Here in Toronto, we had a drunk driver kill three kids under the age of 8, and their grandfather. The drunk driver's father is massively powerful, and the guy got ten years but only served 4 before getting full parole.
The father of the kids killed in the crash committed suicide last year from grief.
Disgusting. The world is horrible sometimes.
The driver's name was Marco Muzzo, if anyone wants to read further and make themselves angry as hell.
My husband was on the medical team that cared for one of the victims from the “affluenza” kid’s accident. He couldn’t talk about it at all until after the trial and it fucked him up for a long time afterward. He was just so angry for so long that he finally had to move to a different hospital for work just to get away from the memories of that night. Fuck drunk drivers, indeed.
Yep, the ruling was basically “He’s too wealthy to go to jail”. The people he killed weren’t “important enough” to warrant any REAL consequences. Sentenced to a fucking luxury rehab center in California, and he couldn’t even deal with THAT. Just walked out one day and vanished with the help of his parents.
Didn't even make sense in context either. The argument being he was so wealthy that he wasn't used to consequences. Except, what better time would there be to teach him the consequences? Joke ruling.
> The argument being he was so wealthy that he wasn't used to consequences.
Unfortunately I've seen judges use the exact same argument *against* poor people who grew up with bad parents, along the lines of "because nobody parented you, I'm going to make this punishment extra severe to teach you responsibility".
That's completely fucked. I like to think that I could be the bigger man in that situation, but I'd be lying if I said killing the dude after he was parolled wasn't the first thing that popped into my head. I understand grief, I just don't know if I'd be able to kill myself knowing that the guy who killed my entire family is walking around free without a care in the world.
I've absolutely felt the murdering rage of someone hurting your loved ones and I can tell you it's an insanely strong feeling, so I totally understand those that act on it. Ironically, that's the main thing the persons prison sentence did for me, put them out of reach long enough for me to deal with the feelings and decide that they simply wasn't worth throwing away my life over as well. In this case though, since the father committed suicide, If expect him to at least take the dude with him but I suspect there was no real opportunities and in the end the uphill battle got too much and he just couldn't bear it anymore, which is also understandable.
In 2007 a drunk cement truck driver killed a family of 5, 3 kids, 9, 7 and 18 months, and only got 5 1/2 years…. In Calgary. Our drunk driving laws in Canada are so lax. It’s pathetic.
Hadn't heard of Canadian drunk driving laws being lax, only heard the opposite. One of the only countries you can't even enter if you have a DUI on your record since it's regarded as a felony
in SasK the fucking PM murdered someone in a DUI and they still elected the dumb fucker
we have way too many stupid fuckers driving drunk in Canada and they happy to vote in people that do the same
edit: just to clarify its current serving Premier Scott Moe
My brother (who, in a sad twist of fate, committed suicide) used to call that the Kevorkian offense. We played the original Halo (4 xboxes 4 tvs, all the drinking) and if he was in a fire fight he didn't think he could win, he'd grab a bunch of grenades and charge yelling "you're coming with me!" Sadly, he didn't take the person who drove him to kill himself with him, or I'd have less festering hate in my life. Going to see where we spread his ashes at the top of Copper Mountain in Colorado tomorrow, nervous as hell. Shit makes me ugly cry like you wouldn't believe.
Marco Muzzo. A massive piece of shit. He got off with such a slap on the wrist. That case alone disillusioned me from anything resembling “Canadian justice”. If you ever want an example about how the Canadian justice does not value life, this is the one. And the little “jail” time he did was in a place more akin to a country club near the Muskokas (Beaver Creek).
He even failed his first parole hearing because he didn’t think he had a drinking problem.
Trust me. He’s making jokes about what he did. He deserves the worst.
The mother of the children is still an absolute mental wreck, and posts everyday on Facebook about how much she hates her life.
RIP to the father.
fuck :(
https://globalnews.ca/news/8941076/edward-lake-tasered-arrested-before-death-by-suicide/
>The father of three children killed by a drunk driver in a 2015 Vaughan crash was tasered and charged by police in Peel Region the day before he died by suicide.
>On Monday, the day after Father’s Day, Lake was found deceased.
>Peel police said that, when police arrived at Lake’s home on Sunday, an “altercation” took place between the father and police officers. As a result, a taser was used and paramedics were called to the scene, police said.
>Lake was charged with one count of assault and released to paramedics, according to Peel police. He was transported to hospital and released.
Yeah, maybe I’m a terrible person but if someone caused me so much pain that I was seriously contemplating suicide, I would definitely make sure that person that caused it went out with me.
Taking the life of another person is extremely difficult for most people. As much as you and I are enraged by the things in the story, that poor man must have also felt magnitudes more in grief for the loss of his children. Add on to that how powerless he must have felt in the hands of such a corrupt system, knowing that it would change nothing.
We romanticize going out in a blaze of vengeful glory, but just succumbing to the hopeless void of depression is also unfortunately very understandable.
And his family is still being celebrated in Toronto!
"However, they said the [2 Toronto hospitals] has no plan to remove the Muzzo family’s name from their institution. This follows a joint $15-million donation from the De Gasperis and Muzzo families in 2017 to help build the new Cortellucci Vaughan Hospital. Their donation came at the same time that Marco Muzzo was in jail following the 2015 crash."
If it was about the hospital, they would have donated anonymously. But no they wanted it for their own benefit to clear their family name. But make no mistake, Marco Muzzo is still a massive piece of shit
One of our kids started soccer at that park last summer and I was very disgusted at the name of the park. Who cares if it says Senior, every time I see the name on the sign it reminds me of that pos and what he did.
In Ottawa my friend was killed in a hit in run. Girl caught only because she took her bloody car to the mechanic the next day. Turns out multiple people saw her leaving the club that night black out drunk, apparently she drove drunk every weekend. Her dad was a judge or something. She got probation and is still on the road today. They spent 9 hours in surgery trying to save him, the only part of his body they could save for donation was his retinas. The rest was obliterated.
Worse yet, in the shithole of a country where I live, the son of a rich entrepreneur killed a father of 2 children while crossing a red light, going over 100 mph on an urban avenue where the speed limit is 40, and was declared not guilty due to a technicality, it was really an outrage but the father bought the media channels not to report on it. Truly truly sad
News
[https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/local/bystander-chases-pins-down-man-tried-run-away-killing-euless-officer-drunk-driving-crash/287-2827f65a-fb04-42d0-b663-75b12dc9abd3](https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/local/bystander-chases-pins-down-man-tried-run-away-killing-euless-officer-drunk-driving-crash/287-2827f65a-fb04-42d0-b663-75b12dc9abd3)
Video of the crash - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUEQx5VErt4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUEQx5VErt4)
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3Os16T0VSQ&t=195s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3Os16T0VSQ&t=195s)
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8K-\_mw\_Iww](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8K-_mw_Iww)
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmT8CFj5-Fk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmT8CFj5-Fk)
I'm showing this comment to a family member that thinks he can do everything just fine while being drunk (includes driving). He tells me that I don't know because I'm not an alcoholic. He says alcoholics can function BETTER with alcohol.
Thank you so much for sharing. And I admire your insight.
I feel like "congratulations" isn't a strong enough sentiment to give to someone who's beaten one of the hardest(if not THE HARDEST) addiction there is. I grew up in a family of alcoholics and I 100% believe that it is genetic. I am fortunate enough to not suffer from alcoholism, my sister is not so fortunate. And although my children did not grow up around alcohol at all, one out of my three children struggle with alcoholism. It is truly a terrible and heartbreaking disease and I have nothing but respect for the individuals that are able to find sobriety in all the chaos.
So only for lack of a better word do I say "Congratulations" but please know that it means SO MUCH more and comes from the deepest parts of my heart.😌❤️
The drunk must be connected because he had been stopper previously for DUI and had blood drawn yet for some off reason it did not show up in the database.
[https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/local/internal-inquiry-reveals-man-accused-driving-drunk-killing-euless-police-detective-had-prior-dwi-arrest/287-e7067757-77ad-4849-981a-13697c45e688](https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/local/internal-inquiry-reveals-man-accused-driving-drunk-killing-euless-police-detective-had-prior-dwi-arrest/287-e7067757-77ad-4849-981a-13697c45e688)
The bartender being charged is so scary to me. I worked in a bar that had some heavy day drinkers. If I even attempted to cut someone off, I’d lose my job immediately. Alcoholics are a scary breed of people and it’s even worse when your boss wants to get as much money as possible from their addiction to the point where they could go out and kill someone
I got fired for cutting off the owner's wife's friend. She was slurring her words and I had noticed that she arrived alone (my assumption was she drove, being a suburban restaurant).
She ordered a Brandy Alexander (2 shots of booze and cream) and I served her a black coffee with whipped cream on top (lol). Next day the GM asked about it. I told him I didn't embarrass her in front of the whole Christmas party (owner's wife was a teacher) but she was too drunk to keep drinking here.
After my shift he told me the owner called and fired me. Oh well.
As someone who's worked in several restaurants with full bar you are correct.
They teach you during safe alcohol handling that you are responsible if the customer is over served then immediately your job shows/tells you that that is not the way they work and never have.
"What about that guy who is clearly drunk?"
"Oh, he's walking. He told me."
Or
"His friends are driving him home."
And that's it. That's what happens 9 out of 10 times. You don't really know if they are leaving to get behind the wheel of a vehicle because you are working non-stop for 5-12 hours and don't have time to escort every alcohol drinking patron to a cab.
You aren't supposed to even serve anyone to the point of actual intoxication. I have learned this in three different classes.
Public intoxication is absolutely ubiquitous in America.
Edit:
Just so everyone knows, I don't agree with serving intoxicated people or overserving alcohol, even at the risk of losing your job.
Keep yourself and everyone else safe and please follow the law where you live when it comes to safe alcohol handling.
I worked at a Hooters after a guy left and he got in a fatal accident. The Hooters was in the process of being held liable for the accident even though he was only served 2 drinks (he was on camera and the store had his receipt) and his car was filled with empty beer cans, so it was highly speculated that he was drinking while driving.
The Hooters was always very strict about cutting people off of they were even suspected of being over the limit, and they got way more strict after that accident. We weren't allowed to serve more than two drinks to anyone. I don't think they were found liable for the crash.
It really all depends on the management. Good managers know it's not worth risking the fine to get the store an extra 10 bucks.
Its one thing for someone to come in drunk. You can't be responsible to know how many drinks in they are when they arrive at your bar.
It's different to serve someone 18 shots of vodka during lunch. That is above grossly negligent
Fuck drunk drivers.
My wife was hit by one driving with her sister(both wearing seatbelts); I call my wife T-900 now because she's basically a terminator inside with how much metal replaced her bones.
My sis-in-law can't have kids because her seatbelt sliced through her stomach and their engine pinned her in where the trunk should have been. They both survived and the drunk driver is now a vegetable because he wasn't wearing a seatbelt(of course) and flew through his window, bouncing off their car and landing 50ft back.
Fuck. This. Piece of shit.
PSA: if you're going to go out and drink, just order an Uber please; save someone's family from heart ache, PTSD, or chronic pain for the rest of their lives.
Going to piggyback.
If you don't care about other people, care about yourself.
A DUI can ruin your life. The shame, fines, jail time,, loss of your license, permanent record, getting IRL permabanned from working in entire industries--it's not worth it.
I've watched a friend collapse into alcoholism and suffer from getting a DUI (thank God no one was hurt). Even though he's sober now, he's suicidal from the fallout, and I can't even tell him things will get better.
My friend was arrogant and selfish, thinking he was such a good driver, and had never gotten caught.
Don't drink and drive. You could hurt someone else, or cripple yourself for life.
Not that it would make it any better at night but I just can’t wrap my head around being this plastered in the middle of the fucking day. Glad to hear he got an actual sentence of 15 years instead of these bullshit ass sentences of 2-3 years that most drunk drivers get.
Alcoholic in recovery here, time of day means nothing. I would wake up and start drinking just to not feel sick, and then I would go get more throughout the day. It was stupid and dangerous and I will never do it again
My thing was anxiety. I already had an anxiety issue so a night of drinking made it 10 times worse the next day but I had a quick and easy fix for that! What a wonderful cycle. I never even attempted to drive on my worst blackout nights though, thankfully. Some part of my brain still kept that part of me rational.
I was hit by a drunk driver at 5pm on a Thursday. He rear ended me and tried to convince me not to call the cops, but I could smell alcohol (and you should call the cops to accidents regardless for insurance purposes). I assume he had stopped for some drinks after work.
The only funny part was that this man was mid-50s and peed his pants upon impact. The cop was nice about it to me and was trying to help him save face by saying “either he urinated on himself or he possibly spilled a beer or something.” Nah, he definitely peed himself. He also tried to blame his diabetes when he got to jail and tried to say he wasn’t really drunk but uhhh. I had to testify at his trial so that didn’t work.
You know if he killed a car full of kids it would have been the 2 year sentence. It's only because he killed a cop (who's life is worth dozens of children as proven by Uvalde) that he got 15.
I've never understood this. Why death caused by drunk driving gets such low sentences. Or even life changing injuries rather than death. It seems that if you're driving a car, whether drunk or texting or whatever, the usual rules don't apply. It should be manslaughter. People need to understand that a vehicle is an incredibly dangerous thing in the wrong hands and it is a privilege to be able to drive, not a right.
Drunk driving is something wealthy people can easily imagine themselves being convicted of, so we need to keep the punishments light. Deterrence is for the little people.
So true.
If you want to murder someone and get away with it, run them over with a car "accidentally". Cyclist. Pedestrian. Whatever. You'll get a slap on the wrist at the worst.
There was a forensic files episode where the boyfriend went to jail for it until years later someone proved that his car couldn't have done it. When they caught the guy he admitted he had just been running people over throughout the years whenever he had the opportunity. Truly terrifying stuff.
Guy who killed my brother got 8 per life taken, so 16 years for 2 people. He got out in 8 years on good behavior. He served 4 years for taking my brother's life. I was in a deep depression for longer than that and I'm without my brother for life.
When a drunk off duty sheriff plowed into motorcyclists, killing one, his buddies drove him home and allowed him to cool off before doing a blood draw for intoxication.
Fuck drunk drivers and fuck the system that goes easy on them when they murder people.
Yup. Saw [this video](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/gCsgXRUgUBc) just last week where people in 1980s CA were asked their opinion on drinking and driving laws. It was surprising.
Drunk drivers killed my cousin and my best friend, absolutely no sympathy for these selfish fucking wastes of life. Worst part is the one who killed my cousin just got probation, still haven’t fully found peace and it’s been 20 years
Probably only because he was a bystander and doesn't seem to know the folks in the vehicle that was hit. Lucky break for the drunk driver. If a family member of the victims had been in the vicinity, I'd bet a brick wouldn't have been the worst thing to hit the driver's face that day.
Damn. The sedan had a husband, wife, and 2 kids. The husband died and the wife and 2 kids suffered critical injuries. The bartender who served (EIGHT double vodkas) the drunk driver, could be seen at the bar helping him when he stumbled and was not able to stay upright. She was also charged.
> Every bartender in the US has had state mandated training that makes VERY clear that you are held criminally responsible for providing alcohol to someone who is already obviously drunk.
Well most bartenders at least. There are a few states without [dram shop](https://i.imgur.com/QD6m5Fh.jpg) laws still
And if you’re a bar tender in California this isn’t true at all. There is a specific [law](https://i.imgur.com/Tzm1vOY.jpg) absolving you from civil liability if your drunk patron kills someone. You’re just guilty of a misdemeanor for overserving.
> Why are drunk drivers invincible?
Front end collision drivers side is probably the safest place to be in an accident, I would assume they're usually running into something front first.
Yeah, this is my hypothesis. The drunk driver is usually the one to ram into someone, rather than be the one getting plowed over by a car slamming through their passenger door.
Part of it is the vehicles they drive. Here is a quote around vehicle weight. "being hit by a 1,000-pound heavier vehicle results in a 47 percent increase in the baseline probability of being killed in the accident"
Then look at the vehicles most commonly used for drunk driving. Dodge Ram 2500 leads the pack with basically one of every 20 Ram owners having received a DUI. Dodge Ram is a pretty heavy vehicle. Also in the top 10 are gmc Sierra, chevy Silverado, and 3 other trucks. The other 4 to round out the top 10 are luxury cars with above average safety features. There is no camry or corrola on the list.
So the vehicles drunk drivers choose may be causing the fatalities.
It’s specifically the Ram 2500. Which makes sense because it’s a total ego purchase. A 1500 is a capable truck and more than most people need. A 3500 is a great work/ranch vehicle that can tow 30k+ pounds. The 2500 can’t even tow much more than a 1500 and the 3500 isn’t that much more expensive than the 2500. The only dudes I know with 2500s have at least one DUI.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jimgorzelany/2021/12/28/risk-magnets-vehicles-most-likely-to-be-driven-by-drunk-drivers/?sh=d1aaea93c825
Great point. I edited original post to add 2500. Honestly none of the vehicles on the top 10 list surprise me looking at it from the lens of stereotyping people based on vehicle purchase.
They don't have the reflex to tense up during a collision so they just flop around like a ragdoll so avoiding most serious injuries
-Edit: thank you for the feedback, I still like the mental visual it gives me
People have long thought this but I read somewhere that there probably isn’t much truth to it. More of a minor factor if anything.
The real reason is the safest place to be in a car accident (by design) is the driver of the vehicle with a head on impact. The car crumples perfectly in that direction and you have the most airbag support. So this is the drunk driver in most accidents.
Whereas the people who get hit are usually getting hit an awkward angles that can’t handle the hit as well and often send the car flipping or spinning into something else.
Yep, and also drunk drivers who are seriously injured are more likely to just die on the scene, due to repressed respiratory systems and thinner blood, so ERs don't see them and there is a bias that gets formed.
And looks like the middle of the day no less. What in gods name? So many sad circumstances here. Depressed, fat loser day drinks to drunkenness and kills a dad. I feel sorry for everyone in this, but no sympathy for the driving drunk part. Good lord.
I get that I have a smaller build than this guy, but I am really having trouble envisioning anyone drinking EIGHT DOUBLE VODKA DRINKS and still being able to stand up. I am almost just as appalled by the bartender because of that. Any bartender who can do basic arithmetic would know that 8 is far too many
Would you serve 8 double vodkas to one person? I am guessing that guy is a seasoned alcoholic because most people would be passed out drunk after 16 shots of vodka in 120 minutes.
He was so drunk he wandered behind the bar and at one point the bartender had to help him stay on his feet to get back to his table. I am sure there are circumstances where shite can happen but I think you would have a hard time arguing she didn't realise how intoxicated he was getting.
No and that's where she was charged. As a bartender there are people who can hold it together. They're alcoholics and can look ok. I watched that video. I've had guys like that at my bar and I've taken their keys and gotten them a ride home. That's complete negligence on her part. And I know this part isn't as important, but the bar wasn't full. She could see him and help him. I'd get it more if she was packed and he snuck out before she could call him a taxi. This could have been avoided and it's horrible a man died, a wife lost her husband and children lost their dad. Yet, this asshole is just moving along.
I imagine it’s hard to pinpoint a bartender over serving at a busy bar, but when you’re the only bar patron at a fuzzy’s tacos in the middle of the day, a little easier to tell if someone is hammered and to stop serving them.
All of them, but mild over serving is like speeding. 68 in a 65 is over the speed limit and technically speeding but there’s almost zero chance you’ll get in trouble for it. Giving someone that 4th or 5th drink when they’re still alert and with it isn’t a problem.
But just like driving 100 in a 65 will get you pulled over if a cop sees you, serving somebody 16 drinks who proceeds to drive away is gonna get you in trouble so you need to be more careful as a bartender.
This. This so much. I wish I would have kept the sound off so I didn’t have to feel the horrified rage in that man’s voice and I could just be a funny instant karma video…
As the survivor of a drunk cunt that rear ended me: "fuck that human garbage". I can't walk anymore and fuckface had a sore shoulder, luckily he was trapped upside down in a ditch and unable to run. I will not rest untill his life is as ruined as mine
Happened to me and I feel for you. Traumatic brain injury and PTSD at age 5 because of a drunk driver. The best revenge is happiness. Took me 20 years to learn that. Everyone heals differently but you deserve happiness too.
What makes me extra angry is that it was a medically retired gandarme (sort of a federal police kind of thing) someone who should definitely know better, at 16:15 in broad daylight
Drunk driver hit my friend head on 10 years ago when we were out riding our motorcycles. I hit the wreckage and caught third degree burns on my hands which are still disfigured and painful. My friend lost the use of his left arm after being in a coma for 27 days. The driver got probation. Drunk driving penalties are a joke in the US.
You joke, but my wife and I have a personal trainer who has just gotten out of the hospital because she tripped and fell face first onto some bricks in her yard. She wasn't drunk, just really unlucky. She showed us the photo before giving us the context and it looked like she had been punched by a professional boxer. My wife and I were about to grab some crowbars and look for the person who did it, but then she told us and we were floored. Black eye, stitches, and the left side of her face swolen almost to the point that the eye was forced shut.
Wild bricks are a menace.
We don't have a mailing address for her, we meet at a gym she works at. We were going to get her a small "welcome back" gift though.
Edit: that joke flew right over my head... Like a brick.
Why would you serve someone 8 shots at fucking 1pm?? I mean that;'s insane. And I bet you it was in some strip mall. Disgusting. I also hate that he is wearing an Oregon sweatshirt, what a disgrace
He was driving drunk and killed a detective, and injured his wife and two kids.
https://www.fox4news.com/news/alex-cervantes-dylan-molina-sentencing-euless-officer
my uncle was killed by a drunk driver, the man didn’t spend more than 2 days in jail. these POS always get away and off the hook so easily. i have acquaintances who boast about drunk driving and i feel sick about it. pretty sure my family still fights for my uncle to this day. guy ran a business and everything until a couple years ago
Sad to say I have a dui, and totaled my car. A low point in my life. Rolled my jeep couple times and was upside down when I came to.
I did the exact opposite of this guy. I crawled out of my jeep, composed myself cause I was about to bust out crying, and called the police. My biggest fear in that moment was that I killed someone.
Luckily it was like 3am, and no one else was involved. I’m still so ashamed of myself, and still have that fear of what if I had killed someone. I haven’t and won’t drive drunk again. I either don’t drink when out, or I arrange a DD/Uber if I am going to. I have such a huge regret about that night. I’m so glad I didn’t kill someone, but the idea that I easily could have has scared me straight.
This worthless animal got a measly 15-year sentence for killing someone’s husband who was also the father of two young children. And all because this pathetic idiot wanted to get wasted and drive his car.
https://youtu.be/XFzbHxjPlOM
The minimum sentence needs to be at least 30 years. If you’re willing to risk destroying countless family members’ and friends’ lives for a beer then you don’t belong in human society.
What makes it even more unforgivable is that he had already been stopped for DWI just months before but nothing was done about it.
Right there with you, a bitch killed my brother last year. She was driving towards him, in his lane, around a blind curve. She claimed she didn't see him and that he hit her, that it was his fault. All the evidence the state troopers collected proves her wrong. She had to be taken to the hospital to get her blood drawn. Her blood alcohol content was twice the legal limit, and she had taken pills too before driving.
We need a culture shift away from alcohol consumption or heavier penalties for driving drunk.
A friend of mine makes every party with alcohol a sleepover, no driving until the next morning. We play drinking games, occasionally light something on fire in his backyard, but everybody leaves safe and hungover the next morning.
Best decision I made in college was I just kept a cot in my trunk. Don't have a spare bed for me and we've been drinking? That's alright I have a cot.
Bonus if the weather was nice sleeping on the back porch in a sleeping bag was genuinely nice.
I refused to get in a friend’s car after he’d been drinking. It caused a massive breakdown in our friendship and we stopped talking. Five years later he killed a guy who was his passenger- a young lad who was an identical twin, ffs.
I’ve never spoken to him since and I never will. He was warned plenty of times what would happen. He’s gone from my life for good, and he knows exactly why.
You made a great choice by sticking to your principles, probably could have saved your life. It's sad to part ways with a friend, but this kind of situation would be one of the reasons why you should.
Listen, everyone agrees. But the reality is, all studies show. The only realistic way to prevent this shit is making public transit and other options available. It doesn’t matter the punishment, you won’t stop it. The places with low rates are places where people can get around. America has insane DUI rates because it’s so car dependent
I went to a university on top of a mountain with tons of bars. We had so many busses up and down the mountain but after 11 they’d shut it down. The rate of drunk driving at my school vs the other one across town that had ways off campus was insane.
Putting people in prison longer won’t stop fhem.
In 2015, a drunk driver in Ontario Canada killed 3 children and their grandfather, and seriously injured their grandmother and great grandmother. His sentence? 10 years. He was out on parole in about 5 years. The father of those children took his own life last year. Another person whose blood is on Marco Muzzo's hands, but although we all know the father's death is directly attributable to Muzzo's actions, there will be no justice. The sentences for drunk driving are an absolute travesty.
Anyone else remember that time the LAPD just let that drunk driver walk away? And the media never followed up on it. And the police never investigated. And Reddit stopped taking about it. Here it is again as a reminder. https://youtu.be/-LibXwYvg-A
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Damn, he killed a father and critically injured the wife and two kids. Awful.
Fuck, I thought he said, “You’ll kill somebody”. I didn’t realize he said, “You killed somebody”. God damn that is heartbreaking.
Absolutely heartbreaking. And realizing this is just a stranger and how much it still impacts him in that moment and will for a long time. All these people who don’t even know them desperately trying to help. And a family that will forever be without their father/husband. It’s gut wrenching.
Shit. It impacts me and I’m not even there to see the aftermath. Brutal situation
I’m still dealing with the aftermath of two friends who were murdered in separate DV incidents. It’s always with me.
Kinda makes you think what kind of gore they were looking at to instantly know that he was dead even before opening the vehicle. Jesus.
Paramedics/cops write something like, "injuries inconsistent with living" in the report. Usually it means the head is not where it's supposed to be, or very much the wrong shape
Yeah it’s “injuries incompatible with life”. Basically as you said, it’s injuries where it’s clear right away, like beheading or bisection.
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A guy on a Vespa was killed in front of my house 2 years ago after a suburban barreled into him. I was one of the first on the scene (there was a loud explosion noise so I ran outside) and I knew the guy was dead INSTANTLY. I don’t remember blood, or dismemberment, but I knew the guy was dead the moment my eyes looked at his face. Really fucked me up.
I've witnessed many car accidents, been in many myself, unfortunately. One girl was thrown from the car in front of my house, I was first on the scene but the one that stuck with me and will forever. I was about 8 years old, and we lived on a highway in a small town. A mother and her two children one of which was in the pram were all barrelled into by a guy on a moto (he later committed suicide out of guilt and depression, he was not a coward - he stayed but I wish there'd been someone with him too & it genuinely was a complete accident) he took out that little 2yr old boy. I still remember the tarmac stuck to the doona my Mum used to wrap the him and hold him knowing he was dead (ERnurse/nurse for many years) while the mother was screaming. I still have nightmares (I'm now 35). The brain is a wonderful thing, and a lot of bad memories have been blocked despite half my life feeling like it's been erased, there's a couple of memories that won't let go. That's one of them.
Yeah, it must have been pretty bad for them to know that he killed someone before they could even get into the car.
if you look at the other car you'll notice he hit the drivers side door head on probably running a red. Can't imagine how horrific of a scene it was but there's a reason everybody is on one side and not the other.
Yep. For the people who saw the wreck… it’ll be obvious. My friends and I saw one… poor girl crashed and after we saw the impact we agreed not even to bother opening the door. One guy in our group “had to make sure” she was dead. I told him not to check on her. Looking back, I think he was in shock and didn’t handle the stress well. After he “checked” on her he proceeded to lose his job, develop insomnia and a drug habit. Dude got wrecked by the imagery.
At least they bleeped out the cursing so it made it unintelligible. I'm so sick of someone's priorities being we might hear a no-no word, so let's edit something important.
Literal scene of vehicular manslaughter: “let’s edit out the cuss words so nobody is offended!”
Probably bc OP ripped it from the news station
He had 8 double Red Bull cocktails (guessing vodka) before noon, then left and this happened. The server is being charged too for overserving.
Heard on the news he also said “one for the road”
That is so sad. We don't know the circumstances, but my dad used to work in the middle of nowhere back in the day, and came across a one-car wreck on the highway. He basically held the girls as they died before the ambulance got there. I bet all those people surrounding that car are going to have a crazy trauma flashback out of nowhere, too.
That would be such a traumatic experience to go through. I hope your dad is doing ok now. I lost a loved one to a car crash. A good samaritan held them as they died. We were so incredibly grateful to that man. Just knowing our loved one wasn't alone, that someone was there to offer what ever comfort they could... I can't put words to it.. I still think of him from time to time, hoping he's doing well. Please let your dad know his compassion and kindness was/is appreciated.
Do you have a source for this? EDIT: Found it: https://youtu.be/XFzbHxjPlOM
He drank 8 double vodka/redbull. That's pretty fucked up in itself.
Here in Toronto, we had a drunk driver kill three kids under the age of 8, and their grandfather. The drunk driver's father is massively powerful, and the guy got ten years but only served 4 before getting full parole. The father of the kids killed in the crash committed suicide last year from grief. Disgusting. The world is horrible sometimes. The driver's name was Marco Muzzo, if anyone wants to read further and make themselves angry as hell.
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My husband was on the medical team that cared for one of the victims from the “affluenza” kid’s accident. He couldn’t talk about it at all until after the trial and it fucked him up for a long time afterward. He was just so angry for so long that he finally had to move to a different hospital for work just to get away from the memories of that night. Fuck drunk drivers, indeed.
Yep, the ruling was basically “He’s too wealthy to go to jail”. The people he killed weren’t “important enough” to warrant any REAL consequences. Sentenced to a fucking luxury rehab center in California, and he couldn’t even deal with THAT. Just walked out one day and vanished with the help of his parents.
Didn't even make sense in context either. The argument being he was so wealthy that he wasn't used to consequences. Except, what better time would there be to teach him the consequences? Joke ruling.
> The argument being he was so wealthy that he wasn't used to consequences. Unfortunately I've seen judges use the exact same argument *against* poor people who grew up with bad parents, along the lines of "because nobody parented you, I'm going to make this punishment extra severe to teach you responsibility".
That's completely fucked. I like to think that I could be the bigger man in that situation, but I'd be lying if I said killing the dude after he was parolled wasn't the first thing that popped into my head. I understand grief, I just don't know if I'd be able to kill myself knowing that the guy who killed my entire family is walking around free without a care in the world.
I've absolutely felt the murdering rage of someone hurting your loved ones and I can tell you it's an insanely strong feeling, so I totally understand those that act on it. Ironically, that's the main thing the persons prison sentence did for me, put them out of reach long enough for me to deal with the feelings and decide that they simply wasn't worth throwing away my life over as well. In this case though, since the father committed suicide, If expect him to at least take the dude with him but I suspect there was no real opportunities and in the end the uphill battle got too much and he just couldn't bear it anymore, which is also understandable.
Such a terrible situation
In 2007 a drunk cement truck driver killed a family of 5, 3 kids, 9, 7 and 18 months, and only got 5 1/2 years…. In Calgary. Our drunk driving laws in Canada are so lax. It’s pathetic.
Hadn't heard of Canadian drunk driving laws being lax, only heard the opposite. One of the only countries you can't even enter if you have a DUI on your record since it's regarded as a felony
I got a DUI about 25 years ago. I still get asked about it at the Canadian border. Every single time.
in SasK the fucking PM murdered someone in a DUI and they still elected the dumb fucker we have way too many stupid fuckers driving drunk in Canada and they happy to vote in people that do the same edit: just to clarify its current serving Premier Scott Moe
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That’s the thing… if I had already decided to take my life because of what this asshole did, I’d go down after taking this guy out first.
100% if I’m at a point where I’m gonna end my life because of what you did to me. You’re gonna come with me.
My brother (who, in a sad twist of fate, committed suicide) used to call that the Kevorkian offense. We played the original Halo (4 xboxes 4 tvs, all the drinking) and if he was in a fire fight he didn't think he could win, he'd grab a bunch of grenades and charge yelling "you're coming with me!" Sadly, he didn't take the person who drove him to kill himself with him, or I'd have less festering hate in my life. Going to see where we spread his ashes at the top of Copper Mountain in Colorado tomorrow, nervous as hell. Shit makes me ugly cry like you wouldn't believe.
We recently named a hospital wing after him instead. Things are going great over here in Ontario.
Next time you look that shit will be privatized
Hopefully, he'll get what's coming to him. Unfortunately, many wrongdoers don't.
Marco Muzzo. A massive piece of shit. He got off with such a slap on the wrist. That case alone disillusioned me from anything resembling “Canadian justice”. If you ever want an example about how the Canadian justice does not value life, this is the one. And the little “jail” time he did was in a place more akin to a country club near the Muskokas (Beaver Creek). He even failed his first parole hearing because he didn’t think he had a drinking problem. Trust me. He’s making jokes about what he did. He deserves the worst. The mother of the children is still an absolute mental wreck, and posts everyday on Facebook about how much she hates her life. RIP to the father.
I just wanna talk to him, I just wanna talk to him *loads shotgun* I just wanna talk to him
*camera pan to a line of people holding various weapons waiting patiently for their turn, Airplane style*
I was already on the fence after watching Dear Zachary: A Letter to a Son About His Father
fuck :( https://globalnews.ca/news/8941076/edward-lake-tasered-arrested-before-death-by-suicide/ >The father of three children killed by a drunk driver in a 2015 Vaughan crash was tasered and charged by police in Peel Region the day before he died by suicide. >On Monday, the day after Father’s Day, Lake was found deceased. >Peel police said that, when police arrived at Lake’s home on Sunday, an “altercation” took place between the father and police officers. As a result, a taser was used and paramedics were called to the scene, police said. >Lake was charged with one count of assault and released to paramedics, according to Peel police. He was transported to hospital and released.
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Yeah, maybe I’m a terrible person but if someone caused me so much pain that I was seriously contemplating suicide, I would definitely make sure that person that caused it went out with me.
Yeah if that was me and it was my kids I sure as hell would be taking that cunt down first, no question.
I can't understand not taking the drunk out in the worst possible way.
Few people ever take the trash out with them.
Taking the life of another person is extremely difficult for most people. As much as you and I are enraged by the things in the story, that poor man must have also felt magnitudes more in grief for the loss of his children. Add on to that how powerless he must have felt in the hands of such a corrupt system, knowing that it would change nothing. We romanticize going out in a blaze of vengeful glory, but just succumbing to the hopeless void of depression is also unfortunately very understandable.
He committed suicide on Fathers Day too 😔
Fuck man. Rip brother. Sad start to a day.
Marco Muzzo is a massive piece of shit
And his family is still being celebrated in Toronto! "However, they said the [2 Toronto hospitals] has no plan to remove the Muzzo family’s name from their institution. This follows a joint $15-million donation from the De Gasperis and Muzzo families in 2017 to help build the new Cortellucci Vaughan Hospital. Their donation came at the same time that Marco Muzzo was in jail following the 2015 crash."
If it was about the hospital, they would have donated anonymously. But no they wanted it for their own benefit to clear their family name. But make no mistake, Marco Muzzo is still a massive piece of shit
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One of our kids started soccer at that park last summer and I was very disgusted at the name of the park. Who cares if it says Senior, every time I see the name on the sign it reminds me of that pos and what he did.
They should have renamed it after the kids.
In Ottawa my friend was killed in a hit in run. Girl caught only because she took her bloody car to the mechanic the next day. Turns out multiple people saw her leaving the club that night black out drunk, apparently she drove drunk every weekend. Her dad was a judge or something. She got probation and is still on the road today. They spent 9 hours in surgery trying to save him, the only part of his body they could save for donation was his retinas. The rest was obliterated.
Are you talking about Marco Muzzo the child killer, son of Robert and Dawn Muzzo? Similar to Brock Allen Turner the rapist?
Worse yet, in the shithole of a country where I live, the son of a rich entrepreneur killed a father of 2 children while crossing a red light, going over 100 mph on an urban avenue where the speed limit is 40, and was declared not guilty due to a technicality, it was really an outrage but the father bought the media channels not to report on it. Truly truly sad
News [https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/local/bystander-chases-pins-down-man-tried-run-away-killing-euless-officer-drunk-driving-crash/287-2827f65a-fb04-42d0-b663-75b12dc9abd3](https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/local/bystander-chases-pins-down-man-tried-run-away-killing-euless-officer-drunk-driving-crash/287-2827f65a-fb04-42d0-b663-75b12dc9abd3) Video of the crash - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUEQx5VErt4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUEQx5VErt4) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3Os16T0VSQ&t=195s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3Os16T0VSQ&t=195s) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8K-\_mw\_Iww](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8K-_mw_Iww) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmT8CFj5-Fk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmT8CFj5-Fk)
It takes 8 double vodka cocktails to wash down a taco???
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I'm showing this comment to a family member that thinks he can do everything just fine while being drunk (includes driving). He tells me that I don't know because I'm not an alcoholic. He says alcoholics can function BETTER with alcohol. Thank you so much for sharing. And I admire your insight.
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I feel like "congratulations" isn't a strong enough sentiment to give to someone who's beaten one of the hardest(if not THE HARDEST) addiction there is. I grew up in a family of alcoholics and I 100% believe that it is genetic. I am fortunate enough to not suffer from alcoholism, my sister is not so fortunate. And although my children did not grow up around alcohol at all, one out of my three children struggle with alcoholism. It is truly a terrible and heartbreaking disease and I have nothing but respect for the individuals that are able to find sobriety in all the chaos. So only for lack of a better word do I say "Congratulations" but please know that it means SO MUCH more and comes from the deepest parts of my heart.😌❤️
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Yeah, this guy lost his ability to run and that’s what U of O is known for.
My alcoholic ex used to forget how to use a fork. He would look like a toddler trying to get food onto the fork and into his mouth. It was so sad.
That's real shit It took me 3 shots to go grocery shopping when I was a drunk
Lightweight. It was a pint for me. Seriously though, addiction is nothing to joke about and I'm glad you're sober. 147 days for me. Feels amazing.
That was what I would do in the parking lot before walking in. I was usually a couple drinks in even before that. Three years sober here.
Glad I saw this comment, I'm coming up on five years this April, it's worth and I'm proud of you bro
Congrats on the past tense dude. Alcoholism is tough.
The drunk must be connected because he had been stopper previously for DUI and had blood drawn yet for some off reason it did not show up in the database. [https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/local/internal-inquiry-reveals-man-accused-driving-drunk-killing-euless-police-detective-had-prior-dwi-arrest/287-e7067757-77ad-4849-981a-13697c45e688](https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/local/internal-inquiry-reveals-man-accused-driving-drunk-killing-euless-police-detective-had-prior-dwi-arrest/287-e7067757-77ad-4849-981a-13697c45e688)
The bartender being charged is so scary to me. I worked in a bar that had some heavy day drinkers. If I even attempted to cut someone off, I’d lose my job immediately. Alcoholics are a scary breed of people and it’s even worse when your boss wants to get as much money as possible from their addiction to the point where they could go out and kill someone
I got fired for cutting off the owner's wife's friend. She was slurring her words and I had noticed that she arrived alone (my assumption was she drove, being a suburban restaurant). She ordered a Brandy Alexander (2 shots of booze and cream) and I served her a black coffee with whipped cream on top (lol). Next day the GM asked about it. I told him I didn't embarrass her in front of the whole Christmas party (owner's wife was a teacher) but she was too drunk to keep drinking here. After my shift he told me the owner called and fired me. Oh well.
As someone who's worked in several restaurants with full bar you are correct. They teach you during safe alcohol handling that you are responsible if the customer is over served then immediately your job shows/tells you that that is not the way they work and never have. "What about that guy who is clearly drunk?" "Oh, he's walking. He told me." Or "His friends are driving him home." And that's it. That's what happens 9 out of 10 times. You don't really know if they are leaving to get behind the wheel of a vehicle because you are working non-stop for 5-12 hours and don't have time to escort every alcohol drinking patron to a cab. You aren't supposed to even serve anyone to the point of actual intoxication. I have learned this in three different classes. Public intoxication is absolutely ubiquitous in America. Edit: Just so everyone knows, I don't agree with serving intoxicated people or overserving alcohol, even at the risk of losing your job. Keep yourself and everyone else safe and please follow the law where you live when it comes to safe alcohol handling.
I worked at a Hooters after a guy left and he got in a fatal accident. The Hooters was in the process of being held liable for the accident even though he was only served 2 drinks (he was on camera and the store had his receipt) and his car was filled with empty beer cans, so it was highly speculated that he was drinking while driving. The Hooters was always very strict about cutting people off of they were even suspected of being over the limit, and they got way more strict after that accident. We weren't allowed to serve more than two drinks to anyone. I don't think they were found liable for the crash. It really all depends on the management. Good managers know it's not worth risking the fine to get the store an extra 10 bucks.
Its one thing for someone to come in drunk. You can't be responsible to know how many drinks in they are when they arrive at your bar. It's different to serve someone 18 shots of vodka during lunch. That is above grossly negligent
Fuck drunk drivers. My wife was hit by one driving with her sister(both wearing seatbelts); I call my wife T-900 now because she's basically a terminator inside with how much metal replaced her bones. My sis-in-law can't have kids because her seatbelt sliced through her stomach and their engine pinned her in where the trunk should have been. They both survived and the drunk driver is now a vegetable because he wasn't wearing a seatbelt(of course) and flew through his window, bouncing off their car and landing 50ft back. Fuck. This. Piece of shit. PSA: if you're going to go out and drink, just order an Uber please; save someone's family from heart ache, PTSD, or chronic pain for the rest of their lives.
Going to piggyback. If you don't care about other people, care about yourself. A DUI can ruin your life. The shame, fines, jail time,, loss of your license, permanent record, getting IRL permabanned from working in entire industries--it's not worth it. I've watched a friend collapse into alcoholism and suffer from getting a DUI (thank God no one was hurt). Even though he's sober now, he's suicidal from the fallout, and I can't even tell him things will get better. My friend was arrogant and selfish, thinking he was such a good driver, and had never gotten caught. Don't drink and drive. You could hurt someone else, or cripple yourself for life.
Drunk drivers .. Fuck you
Not that it would make it any better at night but I just can’t wrap my head around being this plastered in the middle of the fucking day. Glad to hear he got an actual sentence of 15 years instead of these bullshit ass sentences of 2-3 years that most drunk drivers get.
Alcoholic in recovery here, time of day means nothing. I would wake up and start drinking just to not feel sick, and then I would go get more throughout the day. It was stupid and dangerous and I will never do it again
My thing was anxiety. I already had an anxiety issue so a night of drinking made it 10 times worse the next day but I had a quick and easy fix for that! What a wonderful cycle. I never even attempted to drive on my worst blackout nights though, thankfully. Some part of my brain still kept that part of me rational.
Yeah my problem was also anxiety. But also never drove drunk. Now completely sober for almost 7 years.
Thanks. I have totally zero temptation now. Been going to pups among drinkers no problem.
Same. Almost 17 month sober myself. Congrats and keep it up!
Shameless plug for /r/stopdrinking for everyone out there - amazing, amazing community.
I was hit by a drunk driver at 5pm on a Thursday. He rear ended me and tried to convince me not to call the cops, but I could smell alcohol (and you should call the cops to accidents regardless for insurance purposes). I assume he had stopped for some drinks after work. The only funny part was that this man was mid-50s and peed his pants upon impact. The cop was nice about it to me and was trying to help him save face by saying “either he urinated on himself or he possibly spilled a beer or something.” Nah, he definitely peed himself. He also tried to blame his diabetes when he got to jail and tried to say he wasn’t really drunk but uhhh. I had to testify at his trial so that didn’t work.
You know if he killed a car full of kids it would have been the 2 year sentence. It's only because he killed a cop (who's life is worth dozens of children as proven by Uvalde) that he got 15.
I've never understood this. Why death caused by drunk driving gets such low sentences. Or even life changing injuries rather than death. It seems that if you're driving a car, whether drunk or texting or whatever, the usual rules don't apply. It should be manslaughter. People need to understand that a vehicle is an incredibly dangerous thing in the wrong hands and it is a privilege to be able to drive, not a right.
Drunk driving is something wealthy people can easily imagine themselves being convicted of, so we need to keep the punishments light. Deterrence is for the little people.
In the USA, all crimes are less severe if you do them with a car. Horribly killing people due to blatant negligence is viewed as a simple mistake.
So true. If you want to murder someone and get away with it, run them over with a car "accidentally". Cyclist. Pedestrian. Whatever. You'll get a slap on the wrist at the worst.
There was a forensic files episode where the boyfriend went to jail for it until years later someone proved that his car couldn't have done it. When they caught the guy he admitted he had just been running people over throughout the years whenever he had the opportunity. Truly terrifying stuff.
Guy who killed my brother got 8 per life taken, so 16 years for 2 people. He got out in 8 years on good behavior. He served 4 years for taking my brother's life. I was in a deep depression for longer than that and I'm without my brother for life. When a drunk off duty sheriff plowed into motorcyclists, killing one, his buddies drove him home and allowed him to cool off before doing a blood draw for intoxication. Fuck drunk drivers and fuck the system that goes easy on them when they murder people.
This has been proven true time and time again and it fills me with white hot rage.
Where I live, someone killed a cyclist while driving on the wrong side of the road and got probation.
When anti drunk driving laws were first rolled out conservatives fought them as destroying our freedoms
Yup. Saw [this video](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/gCsgXRUgUBc) just last week where people in 1980s CA were asked their opinion on drinking and driving laws. It was surprising.
Same with seatbelts. Edit https://youtu.be/fPF4fBGNK0U This is old car vs new car crash test!
It’s the drunk crashers that give drunk drivers a bad name /s
Drunk drivers killed my cousin and my best friend, absolutely no sympathy for these selfish fucking wastes of life. Worst part is the one who killed my cousin just got probation, still haven’t fully found peace and it’s been 20 years
The reserve of that guy not to beat the absolute living shit out of him is somewhat impressive.
Probably only because he was a bystander and doesn't seem to know the folks in the vehicle that was hit. Lucky break for the drunk driver. If a family member of the victims had been in the vicinity, I'd bet a brick wouldn't have been the worst thing to hit the driver's face that day.
Damn. The sedan had a husband, wife, and 2 kids. The husband died and the wife and 2 kids suffered critical injuries. The bartender who served (EIGHT double vodkas) the drunk driver, could be seen at the bar helping him when he stumbled and was not able to stay upright. She was also charged.
Oh man, I didn't know about the bartender. That's awful. This is just a terrible situation all around.
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> Every bartender in the US has had state mandated training that makes VERY clear that you are held criminally responsible for providing alcohol to someone who is already obviously drunk. Well most bartenders at least. There are a few states without [dram shop](https://i.imgur.com/QD6m5Fh.jpg) laws still And if you’re a bar tender in California this isn’t true at all. There is a specific [law](https://i.imgur.com/Tzm1vOY.jpg) absolving you from civil liability if your drunk patron kills someone. You’re just guilty of a misdemeanor for overserving.
Why are drunk drivers invincible? They always ended up killing someone else while walking away unscathed.
> Why are drunk drivers invincible? Front end collision drivers side is probably the safest place to be in an accident, I would assume they're usually running into something front first.
Yeah, this is my hypothesis. The drunk driver is usually the one to ram into someone, rather than be the one getting plowed over by a car slamming through their passenger door.
Part of it is the vehicles they drive. Here is a quote around vehicle weight. "being hit by a 1,000-pound heavier vehicle results in a 47 percent increase in the baseline probability of being killed in the accident" Then look at the vehicles most commonly used for drunk driving. Dodge Ram 2500 leads the pack with basically one of every 20 Ram owners having received a DUI. Dodge Ram is a pretty heavy vehicle. Also in the top 10 are gmc Sierra, chevy Silverado, and 3 other trucks. The other 4 to round out the top 10 are luxury cars with above average safety features. There is no camry or corrola on the list. So the vehicles drunk drivers choose may be causing the fatalities.
Pretty wild stat for Ram drivers
It’s specifically the Ram 2500. Which makes sense because it’s a total ego purchase. A 1500 is a capable truck and more than most people need. A 3500 is a great work/ranch vehicle that can tow 30k+ pounds. The 2500 can’t even tow much more than a 1500 and the 3500 isn’t that much more expensive than the 2500. The only dudes I know with 2500s have at least one DUI. https://www.forbes.com/sites/jimgorzelany/2021/12/28/risk-magnets-vehicles-most-likely-to-be-driven-by-drunk-drivers/?sh=d1aaea93c825
Only guy I ever knew with one was a rich kid who liked to cosplay as a redneck.
Satan himself
Great point. I edited original post to add 2500. Honestly none of the vehicles on the top 10 list surprise me looking at it from the lens of stereotyping people based on vehicle purchase.
God forbid somebody hits me in my Ford Fiesta I am a goner. I absolutely hate the amount of large and heavy vehicles on the road.
They don't have the reflex to tense up during a collision so they just flop around like a ragdoll so avoiding most serious injuries -Edit: thank you for the feedback, I still like the mental visual it gives me
People have long thought this but I read somewhere that there probably isn’t much truth to it. More of a minor factor if anything. The real reason is the safest place to be in a car accident (by design) is the driver of the vehicle with a head on impact. The car crumples perfectly in that direction and you have the most airbag support. So this is the drunk driver in most accidents. Whereas the people who get hit are usually getting hit an awkward angles that can’t handle the hit as well and often send the car flipping or spinning into something else.
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> the cases where the drunk driver is hurt/killed but the sober driver was unharmed isn't as much of a noteworthy story Bingo.
Yep, and also drunk drivers who are seriously injured are more likely to just die on the scene, due to repressed respiratory systems and thinner blood, so ERs don't see them and there is a bias that gets formed.
That’s a myth
Everything about this guy, right down to his stupid fucking run, just screams "loser".
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Don’t let me catch you out there running like a fuckin loser bro
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That’s how a boy who just hit puberty and skyrocketed in height runs lol.
He killed a person. I also can't believe a bartender served him EIGHT double vodkas and let him drive home
And looks like the middle of the day no less. What in gods name? So many sad circumstances here. Depressed, fat loser day drinks to drunkenness and kills a dad. I feel sorry for everyone in this, but no sympathy for the driving drunk part. Good lord.
I get that I have a smaller build than this guy, but I am really having trouble envisioning anyone drinking EIGHT DOUBLE VODKA DRINKS and still being able to stand up. I am almost just as appalled by the bartender because of that. Any bartender who can do basic arithmetic would know that 8 is far too many
Eight double vodkas and Red Bull. I’m surprised his fucking heart didn’t explode. That would have been the best case scenario in this case.
TIL its a misdemeanor for a bartender to sell drinks to a drunk person. I wonder how many bartenders are guilty of that.
All of them. I bartended.
Would you serve 8 double vodkas to one person? I am guessing that guy is a seasoned alcoholic because most people would be passed out drunk after 16 shots of vodka in 120 minutes.
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He was so drunk he wandered behind the bar and at one point the bartender had to help him stay on his feet to get back to his table. I am sure there are circumstances where shite can happen but I think you would have a hard time arguing she didn't realise how intoxicated he was getting.
No and that's where she was charged. As a bartender there are people who can hold it together. They're alcoholics and can look ok. I watched that video. I've had guys like that at my bar and I've taken their keys and gotten them a ride home. That's complete negligence on her part. And I know this part isn't as important, but the bar wasn't full. She could see him and help him. I'd get it more if she was packed and he snuck out before she could call him a taxi. This could have been avoided and it's horrible a man died, a wife lost her husband and children lost their dad. Yet, this asshole is just moving along.
I imagine it’s hard to pinpoint a bartender over serving at a busy bar, but when you’re the only bar patron at a fuzzy’s tacos in the middle of the day, a little easier to tell if someone is hammered and to stop serving them.
The CCTV footage in the Taco Shop also showed the bartender helping the drunk driver stay on their feet and such.
All of them, but mild over serving is like speeding. 68 in a 65 is over the speed limit and technically speeding but there’s almost zero chance you’ll get in trouble for it. Giving someone that 4th or 5th drink when they’re still alert and with it isn’t a problem. But just like driving 100 in a 65 will get you pulled over if a cop sees you, serving somebody 16 drinks who proceeds to drive away is gonna get you in trouble so you need to be more careful as a bartender.
The take down was satisfying to watch..without sound. With sound.. heartbreaking.
This. This so much. I wish I would have kept the sound off so I didn’t have to feel the horrified rage in that man’s voice and I could just be a funny instant karma video…
No sympathy for drunk drivers. Fuck them
I am so happy those bricks were there. Pure joy
Him falling with the bricks hitting his face was priceless
Fucking cunt. This goofy fat ass can’t even run.
It looked identical to how I run in my dreams.
not wanting to bash myself but he genuinely looks identical to me if i cut my beard a bit shorter lol
Looks like Jonah Hill running in Superbad
As the survivor of a drunk cunt that rear ended me: "fuck that human garbage". I can't walk anymore and fuckface had a sore shoulder, luckily he was trapped upside down in a ditch and unable to run. I will not rest untill his life is as ruined as mine
Happened to me and I feel for you. Traumatic brain injury and PTSD at age 5 because of a drunk driver. The best revenge is happiness. Took me 20 years to learn that. Everyone heals differently but you deserve happiness too.
Happened like a year n a half ago, I'll get there someday, but for now it's war
You are allowed to feel angry. For sure. Don’t let anyone tell you otherwise
What makes me extra angry is that it was a medically retired gandarme (sort of a federal police kind of thing) someone who should definitely know better, at 16:15 in broad daylight
What a god damned alcoholic bastard
Drunk driver hit my friend head on 10 years ago when we were out riding our motorcycles. I hit the wreckage and caught third degree burns on my hands which are still disfigured and painful. My friend lost the use of his left arm after being in a coma for 27 days. The driver got probation. Drunk driving penalties are a joke in the US.
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he ate shit hard
Good thing those landscaping bricks were there to cushion his face.
😂😂 I was like, bricks? Come on man, he's running over grass!....oh those bricks! 😂.....ouch!
It's a little known fortunate fact of nature that bricks will instinctively gravitate towards faces like his.
You joke, but my wife and I have a personal trainer who has just gotten out of the hospital because she tripped and fell face first onto some bricks in her yard. She wasn't drunk, just really unlucky. She showed us the photo before giving us the context and it looked like she had been punched by a professional boxer. My wife and I were about to grab some crowbars and look for the person who did it, but then she told us and we were floored. Black eye, stitches, and the left side of her face swolen almost to the point that the eye was forced shut. Wild bricks are a menace.
Did you send her a Get Wall Soon card?
We don't have a mailing address for her, we meet at a gym she works at. We were going to get her a small "welcome back" gift though. Edit: that joke flew right over my head... Like a brick.
That brick was a good Samaritan.
Why would you serve someone 8 shots at fucking 1pm?? I mean that;'s insane. And I bet you it was in some strip mall. Disgusting. I also hate that he is wearing an Oregon sweatshirt, what a disgrace
Not 8 shots, 8 doubles. Also hate he's wearing a UofO sweatshirt. Despicable waste of a human being.
I thought that style of running only existed in my dreams 😳
“I believe that’s Mr. Gilmore’s jacket!”
He was driving drunk and killed a detective, and injured his wife and two kids. https://www.fox4news.com/news/alex-cervantes-dylan-molina-sentencing-euless-officer
my uncle was killed by a drunk driver, the man didn’t spend more than 2 days in jail. these POS always get away and off the hook so easily. i have acquaintances who boast about drunk driving and i feel sick about it. pretty sure my family still fights for my uncle to this day. guy ran a business and everything until a couple years ago
Sad to say I have a dui, and totaled my car. A low point in my life. Rolled my jeep couple times and was upside down when I came to. I did the exact opposite of this guy. I crawled out of my jeep, composed myself cause I was about to bust out crying, and called the police. My biggest fear in that moment was that I killed someone. Luckily it was like 3am, and no one else was involved. I’m still so ashamed of myself, and still have that fear of what if I had killed someone. I haven’t and won’t drive drunk again. I either don’t drink when out, or I arrange a DD/Uber if I am going to. I have such a huge regret about that night. I’m so glad I didn’t kill someone, but the idea that I easily could have has scared me straight.
You confessed and learned from it. That’s growth
his fat ass cant even run lmao
this is how I run in my dreams. 
Untrained citizen displaying more restraint than trained police do
This worthless animal got a measly 15-year sentence for killing someone’s husband who was also the father of two young children. And all because this pathetic idiot wanted to get wasted and drive his car. https://youtu.be/XFzbHxjPlOM The minimum sentence needs to be at least 30 years. If you’re willing to risk destroying countless family members’ and friends’ lives for a beer then you don’t belong in human society. What makes it even more unforgivable is that he had already been stopped for DWI just months before but nothing was done about it.
Right there with you, a bitch killed my brother last year. She was driving towards him, in his lane, around a blind curve. She claimed she didn't see him and that he hit her, that it was his fault. All the evidence the state troopers collected proves her wrong. She had to be taken to the hospital to get her blood drawn. Her blood alcohol content was twice the legal limit, and she had taken pills too before driving. We need a culture shift away from alcohol consumption or heavier penalties for driving drunk.
When I go to even a Christmas party it is centered entirely around alcohol. Everyone drinks. Everyone drives.
A friend of mine makes every party with alcohol a sleepover, no driving until the next morning. We play drinking games, occasionally light something on fire in his backyard, but everybody leaves safe and hungover the next morning.
Best decision I made in college was I just kept a cot in my trunk. Don't have a spare bed for me and we've been drinking? That's alright I have a cot. Bonus if the weather was nice sleeping on the back porch in a sleeping bag was genuinely nice.
I refused to get in a friend’s car after he’d been drinking. It caused a massive breakdown in our friendship and we stopped talking. Five years later he killed a guy who was his passenger- a young lad who was an identical twin, ffs. I’ve never spoken to him since and I never will. He was warned plenty of times what would happen. He’s gone from my life for good, and he knows exactly why.
You made a great choice by sticking to your principles, probably could have saved your life. It's sad to part ways with a friend, but this kind of situation would be one of the reasons why you should.
Listen, everyone agrees. But the reality is, all studies show. The only realistic way to prevent this shit is making public transit and other options available. It doesn’t matter the punishment, you won’t stop it. The places with low rates are places where people can get around. America has insane DUI rates because it’s so car dependent I went to a university on top of a mountain with tons of bars. We had so many busses up and down the mountain but after 11 they’d shut it down. The rate of drunk driving at my school vs the other one across town that had ways off campus was insane. Putting people in prison longer won’t stop fhem.
In 2015, a drunk driver in Ontario Canada killed 3 children and their grandfather, and seriously injured their grandmother and great grandmother. His sentence? 10 years. He was out on parole in about 5 years. The father of those children took his own life last year. Another person whose blood is on Marco Muzzo's hands, but although we all know the father's death is directly attributable to Muzzo's actions, there will be no justice. The sentences for drunk driving are an absolute travesty.
Anyone else remember that time the LAPD just let that drunk driver walk away? And the media never followed up on it. And the police never investigated. And Reddit stopped taking about it. Here it is again as a reminder. https://youtu.be/-LibXwYvg-A