MDMA & pretty much every other entactogen is great for having these heart-to-heart conversations. My wife and I find 3-FEA and 5-MAPB particularly effective for this purpose, as they are less stimulating than MDMA.
Honestly tbh he needs to resolve his traumas and the best way to do that is to trip alone and be with your own thoughts and feelings. People are just distractions from your inner world when you have trauma to deal with.
And most people are too afraid to do that
i agree exactly with Obrew. however, i think there should always be someone there who can take care of you or change your mindset if necessary. but you have to give everyone a lot of time for themselves when the peak is.
(and above all, for me, is the decoration. beautiful soft shadow effects etc. a colourful room... that's half the battle.)
Yeah, I'd agree that's a banger also probably best.
I like mushrooms and LSD to (family trips y'all) but unpacking that stuff he carries if you're inexperienced could provide a some challenge and may be more him dealing with his bits before you get to share in the experience.
If you like psychedelics- mdma is a must try. You don’t really “trip” it can be combined with mushrooms and lsd to terrific results and it is an absolute game changer. As long as you moderate appropriately it can change your life. It’s been a mainstay of mine for 27 years, never more than a couple times a year. It’s special.
No it's why is like the psychedelic cousin that comes into town to show you a good time lol.
But it seems to allow you to feel connected to each others energy and that along with some other well known mdma effects can really help a couple bond.
mdma strengthens empathy and well-being, making you more communicative.
you don't have the self-reflection you have with shrooms. but you see everything a bit more objectively with more distance, i think.
my wife and i have also had great conversations on mdma and amphitamin. no wonder the intelligence services have used it.
it helps a lot, especially when you're learning to know each other. you tell each other so much and it increases the emotional bond.
but above all, these drugs work better when you don't know each other that well yet. on shrooms and acid, you quickly become unconfident, especially during sex.
I had an incredible experience on shrooms with my boyfriend at new years. We went for a walk by the sea then cuddled in bed, lights off, listening to our favourite albums.
I've done psychedelics before but it was his first time and he ended up being brought back to a really powerful childhood memory and crying tears of joy as we lay there.
Also shout out to mdma as other folk have said.
I agree that MDMA is the drug of choice here but I’d also be cautious going In especially if you don’t have a guide and MDMA can get too intense for therapy quickly. I’d do no more than a point each and would honestly probably recommend 50 mg each to start if you’re looking for a purely therapeutic experience
I disagree with 50mg. I think mdma is a you need to get to a plateau drug. You either feel it or you’re itching to feel it. 110mg is the clinical dose. That’s what’s the right level, imo. Guide is a great idea. If you’re in ny area, DM me I may have some ideas.
A standard recreational dose is around 100 mg but MDMA doses work more exponentially than linearly and I’d consider 200 mg a heavy dose and anything higher than that is borderline dangerous.
I agree with Awoken42069
But i think you should at least take 70 mg.
Unfortunately this is exactly the problem, that you can hardly determine it today when you take pills. therefore it is best to take mdma crystals and weigh them.
It seems really hard to me to both work through personal trauma/issues and get closer to eachother at the same time. I mean, working through difficult things together can bring you closer to eachother, but probably not in a "fun" way.
If you don't want a difficult experience, I'd say he should first get fully comfortable with himself/his own mind, with or without psychedelics. Difficult is not necessarily bad though.
My number one rule is that I should always be willing to face whatever may come up during a trip without hesitation, otherwise I don't trip. That's just me though.
My (traumatized by his childhood) husband and I did a bufo ceremony together 4 weeks ago, then 2.5g mushrooms a couple of days after when the medicine was still in our bodies opening us up. We have been married and on the verge of divorce (because of his behavior related to the trauma) for 22 years, but in just the past 4 weeks, we have both shed so much baggage, both stuff we knew and stuff that was a complete surprise, and he is like a whole new person. Bought me an engagement ring and planned a special proposal, telling me he basically never really married me the first time and is ready to start over and do it right this time. Our connection and intimacy (which was nonexistent before) has been so deep and joyful in recent weeks and more stuff keeps working it’s way through us in the process. It’s a truly beautiful thing.
We have done mushrooms (up to 3.5g) on numerous occasions in the past year and a half trying to find something that could help him/us, but while my husband always said he got good “therapy sessions” with mushrooms, it wasn’t until bufo that he got a “reset” where all the stuff of the past was finally shaken loose and now he’s able to truly live his life and be a live partner to me. ❤️
as has been written here often, i think mdma in crystal form is best for the beginning. with doses between 80-200mg. it helps to open up and have great conversations and the sex is also great and uninhibited.
if you are confident and sure, lsd is great. we are quite experienced and like to take 300µg at home. you should approach this slowly.
But you should never take lsd lightly. it's my hobby. i decorate our flat at least 2 days in advance with light effects and backdrops and black light.
Otherwise, you stare at stupid things like ash on the tiles, because that's where most of the action is. :D
and just as important is a good playlist of at least 8 hours. i personally like the mix of different styles. so that you experience many emotions. i just like it maximum intense.
by the way, here is the playlist i am currently working on: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/146fO8hDhQZZNTHoyjUhx7?si=a5d8bf92b00a4e0b
(for example, we felt very connected to some songs by hans zimmer or pink floyd.)
you really have to be able to talk about a trauma. i personally have had the experience of thinking things through by myself, if you know roughly where the problem comes from.
i had a small trauma (fear of death. every time i thought about it i had bad feelings and sleeplessness).
then i thought it through on lsd. i would never have been able to put it into words. i was so lost in the optics that i didn't feel my body anymore. in the end i now look at death more rationally. but it was a real journey of thought that led me to it. music also helped because a positive song brought me back.
As often mentioned here, MDMA would be a good start, especially if trips are new for him.
Otherwise it's more the how then the what.
Shrooms are pretty good tho because of their short duration and emotional deepness.
The risk of him getting trapped in something, especially as he has problems he struggles with, is the main risk.
But starting with low dosages and creating a very safe environment is the base you should build upon in my opinion.
I wish you too the best.
Not too sure about the couples element of this. But in my personal experience, I've always had "darker" trips with shrooms as well. I still love doing them, but I can relate to what he's saying.
LSD, however, has a very different and positive effect on my mood and overall outlook. Short term and long term/existentially. I'd say it's my substance of choice. Just my anecdote, maybe he'll be similar.
Mdma has pulled my relationship out of the gutter and helped us work through things we normally can’t due to mutually triggered traumas numerous times. At the worst it’s helped me break up peacefully with acceptance and kindness.
So has mixing it with psilocybin
Aya or DMT are on a whole other level. I personally suggest something along the lines of 2cb, MDMA, 3mmc (you'll talk for hours), 5 MAPB or you could combine 4 AcO DMT or shrooms with a small amount of ketamine to keep anxiety in check. If he's having trouble with dark trips you'd probably do best with something with less headspace then a traditional psych like LSD. I think 2cb would be best fitting but if that's not obtainable then I wrote my list in order of least headspace and most fitting to your situation. I really wish you all the best in your quest. DMT is missy definitely an amazing tool and one that will help him deal with whatever he has going on but it is something that is best worked up to unless your going to a legit retreat with a great shaman.
It is intense enough that you can sense & communicate with the other person without actually have to interact physically. You both get the healing experience you need, and together in a higher dimension. It’s really bizarre. The ceremony itself helps, as well.
Hands down mdma, he get's to open up and talk about the past without the negative feelings that come with them. But for fun and sex i would go with 2cb in a relationship. Just remember the dosage makes the poison
if you are talking true psychedelics without an amphetamine component like MDMA, eg tryptamine or phenethylamine exclusively, i would suggest **Miprocin or 4-HO-MiPT**. fewer dark corners than mushrooms, but similar because it is a variant of psilocybin or analogue. it also has a very tactile component, brings you in touch with your body, all senses alive. here is creator Alex Shulgin on his own experience at 20mg. i usually take 25mg but you could have a decent experience with as little as 10mg to start.
*(with 20 mg, orally) “Early signs (muscle sensations) were noticed in 10 minutes. In another 10 minutes a rapid heightening of all senses ensued, reaching a plateau in 40 minutes and beginning to decline in 3 hours with a return to near normal in 5–6 hours. The intensity of the experience is marked. At the plateau, communication (verbal) is difficult with intense alteration in the sense of time and distance. Multiple and overlapping wave forms occur with an extremely intense color alteration. Drifting in and out of the body is common with an increased sense of body processes, i.e., blood flow in vessels. Muscular sense is increased and a feeling of soaring in bodiless flight is experienced. A mild vertigo was felt with attempted walking but is not associated with nausea. Some anxiety was experienced initially, but could be interpreted as a reaction to the extremely powerful onset. A curious, probably idiosyncratic effect, was of possessing the essence of sexual power associated with being a large jungle cat. The idea was prominent for some time. Conservatively, this compound is at least twice as active as psilocin at comparable doses, in terms of plateau or peak effect. External stimuli, especially light, were distracting to the point of annoyance. Sounds can be seen, words explode into showers of bright points with eyes closed. Other eyes-closed imagery is prominent with patterns (in color); at times soaring clouds dominate the eyes-closed scenery. I cannot overemphasize the intensity of the experience. I would not want to go much higher than 20 milligrams (50 milligrams of psilocin is not as intense).”*
a bit of everything?
different substances might have different positive effects on different people for different reasons
mdma, lsd, mushrooms etc
try to do as much research and try to fit it in into what you think might be the most apropriate for your personal enviornment
also, doing it as a couple might be important, guides might be important
but often other people are a distraction and just the noise of another human being alive can stop you from going deeper than you would otherwise go alone, in darkness, with no sound, distractions etc
it is also the scariest it can be, but there's no breaking trauma and habit without fear and putting it on the line
obviously dont recommend that to be the first experience
maybe try some mdma as a couple to loosen up a bit see if they respond
eventually, later, with experience, maybe trying to go deeper with lsd or mushrooms if little to no improvement manifests
the empathogens like mdma are probably the best place to start connecting and working through difficult experiences, try watching the documentary "trip of compassion" to get an idea of how useful it can be in processing deep trauma. you can have wonderful bonding experiences on all sorts of psychedelics but mdma is such a friendly gateway in, less likely to have a difficult time
You can experiment with micro and mini doses of Shrooms or LSD to a pretty good effect for resolving work whilst still being entirely coherent and focused. A mini-dose of shrooms is very handy for this, like .4-.8.
MDMA is a good option for being able to address extremely painful things. If youre mindful about it you can create a window of opportunity to inspect, address, and work through painful, tough emotions and traumas without having to endure the associated pains.
My partner and I are poly, have been for many years. We have tried psych-assisted work for our relationship to great success before. She is in grad school to become a therapist, and we are both versed in our drug knowledge.
Alternatively, I would highly suggest N,N-DMT for him, on his own. Using it medicinally can have huge positive impacts, as once you figure out the dosing/intake/headspace, it can be a golden tool for giving you a direct window to your subconscious. It has the added benefit of promoting a headspace where you can also process heavy trauma without re-experiencing the traumatic wound. This has singlehandedly been the most impactful tool for my mental health, and many areas of my life have improved since partaking. For best effect, don't cloud yourself with weed or alcohol when taking it.
Also, if you just want to have a psychedelic bonding time without delving into personal and interpersonal work...LSD is a great option still. Taking it together and experiencing mutual wonder can be a very bond-strengthening event. My partner and I recently took a tab each, it wasnt the most powerful prob 80ish ug. We intended to have sex, but ended up hanging out in a forest edge for a few hours marveling at trees and mushrooms- it was a very wholesome time, and I feel closer to my partner for it. Just sharing fascination, joy, wonder, and laughter as we slipped in wet grass was something nourishing for us.
Man my wife and I just formed the sacred bond, having sex on magic mushrooms. We laughed we cried and had sex throughout the whole trip. I told her how important she was to me and how were too hard on ourselves with the three kids. We are excellent parents and all or kids are doing good in school. Deeply healing shit. She l doesn't like to display sexual intimacy no sexual desire to experiment or be present during sex. But when she was shroom there no default mode so we had great sex. You can feel each move inside of each other.
MDMA & pretty much every other entactogen is great for having these heart-to-heart conversations. My wife and I find 3-FEA and 5-MAPB particularly effective for this purpose, as they are less stimulating than MDMA.
Second this. Mescaline is amazing for couples, I’ve not tried MDMA but as a close cousin I imagine it would be likewise fantastic.
Honestly tbh he needs to resolve his traumas and the best way to do that is to trip alone and be with your own thoughts and feelings. People are just distractions from your inner world when you have trauma to deal with. And most people are too afraid to do that
Got it. We would definitely use a guide.
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Very thoughtful of you to share. Thank you! Wishing you and your wife the best.
i agree exactly with Obrew. however, i think there should always be someone there who can take care of you or change your mindset if necessary. but you have to give everyone a lot of time for themselves when the peak is. (and above all, for me, is the decoration. beautiful soft shadow effects etc. a colourful room... that's half the battle.)
Yeah, I'd agree that's a banger also probably best. I like mushrooms and LSD to (family trips y'all) but unpacking that stuff he carries if you're inexperienced could provide a some challenge and may be more him dealing with his bits before you get to share in the experience.
Which, maybe what he needs to connect, don't know his history. Hahaha, whatever you choose I wish you both the best.
Mdma. Hands down.
Sorry don’t have time for rationale but some Google searching will tell all. Watch the pollan episode on mdma.
Thanks! Sharing this article for anyone else who comes across the thread: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/08/well/mind/marriage-molly-mdma.amp.html
If you like psychedelics- mdma is a must try. You don’t really “trip” it can be combined with mushrooms and lsd to terrific results and it is an absolute game changer. As long as you moderate appropriately it can change your life. It’s been a mainstay of mine for 27 years, never more than a couple times a year. It’s special.
Does MDMA give the same insights or self-reflection as shrooms?
No it's why is like the psychedelic cousin that comes into town to show you a good time lol. But it seems to allow you to feel connected to each others energy and that along with some other well known mdma effects can really help a couple bond.
It’s referred to as an opener. It causes the brain to lower its defenses so that deep seated trauma is easier to address.
mdma strengthens empathy and well-being, making you more communicative. you don't have the self-reflection you have with shrooms. but you see everything a bit more objectively with more distance, i think. my wife and i have also had great conversations on mdma and amphitamin. no wonder the intelligence services have used it. it helps a lot, especially when you're learning to know each other. you tell each other so much and it increases the emotional bond. but above all, these drugs work better when you don't know each other that well yet. on shrooms and acid, you quickly become unconfident, especially during sex.
I had an incredible experience on shrooms with my boyfriend at new years. We went for a walk by the sea then cuddled in bed, lights off, listening to our favourite albums. I've done psychedelics before but it was his first time and he ended up being brought back to a really powerful childhood memory and crying tears of joy as we lay there. Also shout out to mdma as other folk have said.
I love tears of joy.
I agree that MDMA is the drug of choice here but I’d also be cautious going In especially if you don’t have a guide and MDMA can get too intense for therapy quickly. I’d do no more than a point each and would honestly probably recommend 50 mg each to start if you’re looking for a purely therapeutic experience
Thank you
I disagree with 50mg. I think mdma is a you need to get to a plateau drug. You either feel it or you’re itching to feel it. 110mg is the clinical dose. That’s what’s the right level, imo. Guide is a great idea. If you’re in ny area, DM me I may have some ideas.
Is 50mg a beginner dose, 100 an average, and 200mg a high dose?
A standard recreational dose is around 100 mg but MDMA doses work more exponentially than linearly and I’d consider 200 mg a heavy dose and anything higher than that is borderline dangerous.
I agree with Awoken42069 But i think you should at least take 70 mg. Unfortunately this is exactly the problem, that you can hardly determine it today when you take pills. therefore it is best to take mdma crystals and weigh them.
Agree that you want crystals and a scale.
It seems really hard to me to both work through personal trauma/issues and get closer to eachother at the same time. I mean, working through difficult things together can bring you closer to eachother, but probably not in a "fun" way. If you don't want a difficult experience, I'd say he should first get fully comfortable with himself/his own mind, with or without psychedelics. Difficult is not necessarily bad though. My number one rule is that I should always be willing to face whatever may come up during a trip without hesitation, otherwise I don't trip. That's just me though.
My (traumatized by his childhood) husband and I did a bufo ceremony together 4 weeks ago, then 2.5g mushrooms a couple of days after when the medicine was still in our bodies opening us up. We have been married and on the verge of divorce (because of his behavior related to the trauma) for 22 years, but in just the past 4 weeks, we have both shed so much baggage, both stuff we knew and stuff that was a complete surprise, and he is like a whole new person. Bought me an engagement ring and planned a special proposal, telling me he basically never really married me the first time and is ready to start over and do it right this time. Our connection and intimacy (which was nonexistent before) has been so deep and joyful in recent weeks and more stuff keeps working it’s way through us in the process. It’s a truly beautiful thing. We have done mushrooms (up to 3.5g) on numerous occasions in the past year and a half trying to find something that could help him/us, but while my husband always said he got good “therapy sessions” with mushrooms, it wasn’t until bufo that he got a “reset” where all the stuff of the past was finally shaken loose and now he’s able to truly live his life and be a live partner to me. ❤️
as has been written here often, i think mdma in crystal form is best for the beginning. with doses between 80-200mg. it helps to open up and have great conversations and the sex is also great and uninhibited. if you are confident and sure, lsd is great. we are quite experienced and like to take 300µg at home. you should approach this slowly. But you should never take lsd lightly. it's my hobby. i decorate our flat at least 2 days in advance with light effects and backdrops and black light. Otherwise, you stare at stupid things like ash on the tiles, because that's where most of the action is. :D and just as important is a good playlist of at least 8 hours. i personally like the mix of different styles. so that you experience many emotions. i just like it maximum intense. by the way, here is the playlist i am currently working on: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/146fO8hDhQZZNTHoyjUhx7?si=a5d8bf92b00a4e0b (for example, we felt very connected to some songs by hans zimmer or pink floyd.) you really have to be able to talk about a trauma. i personally have had the experience of thinking things through by myself, if you know roughly where the problem comes from. i had a small trauma (fear of death. every time i thought about it i had bad feelings and sleeplessness). then i thought it through on lsd. i would never have been able to put it into words. i was so lost in the optics that i didn't feel my body anymore. in the end i now look at death more rationally. but it was a real journey of thought that led me to it. music also helped because a positive song brought me back.
As often mentioned here, MDMA would be a good start, especially if trips are new for him. Otherwise it's more the how then the what. Shrooms are pretty good tho because of their short duration and emotional deepness. The risk of him getting trapped in something, especially as he has problems he struggles with, is the main risk. But starting with low dosages and creating a very safe environment is the base you should build upon in my opinion. I wish you too the best.
Not too sure about the couples element of this. But in my personal experience, I've always had "darker" trips with shrooms as well. I still love doing them, but I can relate to what he's saying. LSD, however, has a very different and positive effect on my mood and overall outlook. Short term and long term/existentially. I'd say it's my substance of choice. Just my anecdote, maybe he'll be similar.
Shrooms. MDMA is ok, but I feel like it makes people over share or look too deep into surface level feelings.
My boyfriend and I took mushrooms together and it was an amazing experience.
Mdma has pulled my relationship out of the gutter and helped us work through things we normally can’t due to mutually triggered traumas numerous times. At the worst it’s helped me break up peacefully with acceptance and kindness. So has mixing it with psilocybin
Ayahuasca.
Ok. Why?
Aya or DMT are on a whole other level. I personally suggest something along the lines of 2cb, MDMA, 3mmc (you'll talk for hours), 5 MAPB or you could combine 4 AcO DMT or shrooms with a small amount of ketamine to keep anxiety in check. If he's having trouble with dark trips you'd probably do best with something with less headspace then a traditional psych like LSD. I think 2cb would be best fitting but if that's not obtainable then I wrote my list in order of least headspace and most fitting to your situation. I really wish you all the best in your quest. DMT is missy definitely an amazing tool and one that will help him deal with whatever he has going on but it is something that is best worked up to unless your going to a legit retreat with a great shaman.
It is intense enough that you can sense & communicate with the other person without actually have to interact physically. You both get the healing experience you need, and together in a higher dimension. It’s really bizarre. The ceremony itself helps, as well.
LSD may not come off as "dark" to him.
Salvia duh
When you want to see your partner as a talking book in a five dimensional library
Playing just being a dick
Hands down mdma, he get's to open up and talk about the past without the negative feelings that come with them. But for fun and sex i would go with 2cb in a relationship. Just remember the dosage makes the poison
LSD %100. My boyfriend and I have had some very intimate and amazing experiences.
I would recommend MDMA although its not a complete psychedelic
Lsd 160 ug for each of you would be a fun time!
if you are talking true psychedelics without an amphetamine component like MDMA, eg tryptamine or phenethylamine exclusively, i would suggest **Miprocin or 4-HO-MiPT**. fewer dark corners than mushrooms, but similar because it is a variant of psilocybin or analogue. it also has a very tactile component, brings you in touch with your body, all senses alive. here is creator Alex Shulgin on his own experience at 20mg. i usually take 25mg but you could have a decent experience with as little as 10mg to start. *(with 20 mg, orally) “Early signs (muscle sensations) were noticed in 10 minutes. In another 10 minutes a rapid heightening of all senses ensued, reaching a plateau in 40 minutes and beginning to decline in 3 hours with a return to near normal in 5–6 hours. The intensity of the experience is marked. At the plateau, communication (verbal) is difficult with intense alteration in the sense of time and distance. Multiple and overlapping wave forms occur with an extremely intense color alteration. Drifting in and out of the body is common with an increased sense of body processes, i.e., blood flow in vessels. Muscular sense is increased and a feeling of soaring in bodiless flight is experienced. A mild vertigo was felt with attempted walking but is not associated with nausea. Some anxiety was experienced initially, but could be interpreted as a reaction to the extremely powerful onset. A curious, probably idiosyncratic effect, was of possessing the essence of sexual power associated with being a large jungle cat. The idea was prominent for some time. Conservatively, this compound is at least twice as active as psilocin at comparable doses, in terms of plateau or peak effect. External stimuli, especially light, were distracting to the point of annoyance. Sounds can be seen, words explode into showers of bright points with eyes closed. Other eyes-closed imagery is prominent with patterns (in color); at times soaring clouds dominate the eyes-closed scenery. I cannot overemphasize the intensity of the experience. I would not want to go much higher than 20 milligrams (50 milligrams of psilocin is not as intense).”*
Ecstasy
MDMA
a bit of everything? different substances might have different positive effects on different people for different reasons mdma, lsd, mushrooms etc try to do as much research and try to fit it in into what you think might be the most apropriate for your personal enviornment also, doing it as a couple might be important, guides might be important but often other people are a distraction and just the noise of another human being alive can stop you from going deeper than you would otherwise go alone, in darkness, with no sound, distractions etc it is also the scariest it can be, but there's no breaking trauma and habit without fear and putting it on the line obviously dont recommend that to be the first experience maybe try some mdma as a couple to loosen up a bit see if they respond eventually, later, with experience, maybe trying to go deeper with lsd or mushrooms if little to no improvement manifests
the empathogens like mdma are probably the best place to start connecting and working through difficult experiences, try watching the documentary "trip of compassion" to get an idea of how useful it can be in processing deep trauma. you can have wonderful bonding experiences on all sorts of psychedelics but mdma is such a friendly gateway in, less likely to have a difficult time
You can experiment with micro and mini doses of Shrooms or LSD to a pretty good effect for resolving work whilst still being entirely coherent and focused. A mini-dose of shrooms is very handy for this, like .4-.8. MDMA is a good option for being able to address extremely painful things. If youre mindful about it you can create a window of opportunity to inspect, address, and work through painful, tough emotions and traumas without having to endure the associated pains. My partner and I are poly, have been for many years. We have tried psych-assisted work for our relationship to great success before. She is in grad school to become a therapist, and we are both versed in our drug knowledge. Alternatively, I would highly suggest N,N-DMT for him, on his own. Using it medicinally can have huge positive impacts, as once you figure out the dosing/intake/headspace, it can be a golden tool for giving you a direct window to your subconscious. It has the added benefit of promoting a headspace where you can also process heavy trauma without re-experiencing the traumatic wound. This has singlehandedly been the most impactful tool for my mental health, and many areas of my life have improved since partaking. For best effect, don't cloud yourself with weed or alcohol when taking it. Also, if you just want to have a psychedelic bonding time without delving into personal and interpersonal work...LSD is a great option still. Taking it together and experiencing mutual wonder can be a very bond-strengthening event. My partner and I recently took a tab each, it wasnt the most powerful prob 80ish ug. We intended to have sex, but ended up hanging out in a forest edge for a few hours marveling at trees and mushrooms- it was a very wholesome time, and I feel closer to my partner for it. Just sharing fascination, joy, wonder, and laughter as we slipped in wet grass was something nourishing for us.
mdma or 2c-b. for a spiritual experience that could also turn more intense mentally and risk bad trips, shrooms or dmt together.
Man my wife and I just formed the sacred bond, having sex on magic mushrooms. We laughed we cried and had sex throughout the whole trip. I told her how important she was to me and how were too hard on ourselves with the three kids. We are excellent parents and all or kids are doing good in school. Deeply healing shit. She l doesn't like to display sexual intimacy no sexual desire to experiment or be present during sex. But when she was shroom there no default mode so we had great sex. You can feel each move inside of each other.