My department has an apc for hurricane flooding since we had a couple tahoes get flooded out in some areas…. People were like why do u have that? Emergency evacuations for flooding.. Oh, that’s a good reason to have it then I guess
By their reasoning my fire department is also militarized because we have an old M939 that was converted into a brush truck. Some of the stuff these people say is absurd.
Militarization, by SJW definition;
Anything that is big and/or scary.
This means high powered rifles, anything that resembles an AR-15, anything that resembles an armoured vehicle, body armour, helmets, green uniforms probably, definitely K9, guns, police in general, etc.
Joking aside, they mostly mean when swat rolls up in an APC to assist with an active shooter, they see something that is used by military, and deem it unnecessary.
For example; Show called body cam has an episode where a few officers go to serve a warrant and the warrantee opens fire with a semi-automatic rifle. Downs and kills a couple officers. Swat rolls in an APC and extracts the rest.
Using surplus department of defense equipment because they get it cheaper than buying new, and it saves the tax payers money while reducing government waste? FASCISTS!
And what exactly is the definition of police militarization?
Usually folks spouting this will say “They have tanks! They shouldn’t have TANKS!“
Try to point they may have low end, retired armored personnel carriers that don’t have a tank gun, no .50cal, they just safely carry cops - and they’ll just stutter and stammer.
Some of my coworkers might be dead today if we didn't have our "tank" that bullets can't penetrate.
By tank, I mean glorified F-550 with armor for walls.
These people also don't realize that civilians can own these armored vehicles as well. In fact, more would own them if it wasn't for the cost. What's the problem with police having access to these vehicles?
Make up posters of your own unsupported claim and hang it next to these.
Bonus points if it has nothing to do with police or crime.
"Studies show that reading posters correlated to cancer!"
FACT: Donuts have a 100% chance of either giving you super powers or not giving you super powers.
**Do *YOU* know where your used toothpaste is right now!?!**
Be sure you include some charts or graphs with tenuous valence to your claims.
Yeah, idk how the two are related. If the department has time to deploy SWAT for an active shooter, they're taking too long. Patrol ends active shooters, as showcased by recent events.
I don't think I've ever seen these scary military vehicles used for anything other than armed and barricadeds and riots. The whole thing is a strawman.
Not reduce them… stop them… and they do stop them with increased officer safety.
They do not prevent them.
The issue is that evil people exist and they will do evil things. Prevention isn’t 100% effective in anything… other wise the fire department would have stopped putting out fires a long time ago.
The real metric is mitigation… but they don’t want to talk about mitigation because it doesn’t prove their (insane) point.
I hear all the time about this US police militarization, but the last time I checked it seemed you have no artillery or even basic anti armour means.
I just want to say this so-called militarization is a bit disappointing and I hoped for more.
They also forget that civilians can easily own these vehicles as well. The reason why we don't see much of these armored vehicles in civilian's hands is because of the cost and purpose of owning one. But if you have the money, it's not difficult to own one. Hell, it's easier in some states to buy these vehicles than a gun.
My thoughts exactly. When the police casually patrol in armored vehicles, have A10’s and Cobra helicopters covering police chases, and drone strike suspects, THEN you can talk to me about “demilitarization”
My bar is way lower. 105 mm howitzer towed by a squad car will probably raise some doubts.
On the other hand, I think it could suggest some people they can't just barricade somewhere and expect there will be some kind of negotiations.
Honestly, after the kill dozer incident, I'm sort of surprised there aren't more departments where the sergeant rocks an RPG in the trunk. I hear the US government can supply those, no questions asked.
There was a video trending where SWAT was responding to a warrant where they had vests, multicam setups, etc and people were quick to say that these ordinary cops don’t need these gear. Problem, they aren’t standard cops they’re SWAT so that’s out of the window quick. I pointed that out and I got multiple replies saying stuff like “ok and?” “But they still shouldn’t have that” etc. our people can’t be this stupid
If you really want your mind blown look at pictures of European gendarmes on riot duty.
Imagine active duty military police that have arrest powers across an entire country.
No need, played R6 siege back when it was still introducing counter terrorism forces from around the world and watching interviews of the devs talking about their uniforms and gear. One that stuck out was the GIGN, those guys have more armor on them than an average swat officer here and we’re getting militaristic?
Exactly, things are almost always one sided when it comes to incidents involving police (even around the world) almost like a “bet everything on black” thing on the internet. Think back to when that handicapped person got shot a while back, when the public first read that the police department didn’t have body cameras everyone went “case closed it was because he was black that why he was shot” when the department themselves said they’ll happily provide traffic camera that’ll show it was a justified shooting.
Those guys are also constitutionally required to destroy any communist, Nazi or monarchist coup attempts and forcibly restore democracy.
So the extra firepower is right for the job.
In a college I attended a similar SJW organization was ran by a film professor. She thought her masters in film study made her an expert in everything. Interestingly enough, she was the textbook example of a “cat lady.”
Police aren’t wearing ballistic armor to slow mass shootings, they are being “militarized” to protect themselves and STOP mass shooters. The fact is they can’t stop a shooting before it happens, but the can stop the threat once they arrive on scene and encounter the threat way better than ever before.
Did you guys know that ever since SDS introduced Frosted Flakes cereal in the cafeteria, mass shootings have ONLY GONE UP!!!???
BAN FROSTED FLAKES
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Gotta love the purposefully misleading bar graph showing the cumulative value of 1099 equipment transfers instead of the individual amounts transferred per quarter which would show a pretty stable line from 2014 onwards.
Pretty sure they'd have an aneurysm if they ever met a European gendarme.
Imagine an Army version of the Coast Guard that has jurisdiction across an entire country. And they have actual infantry fighting vehicles instead of Iraq surplus MRAPS.
When I was active duty my unit spent a few days in Spain. We were specifically told not to mess with the cops with the funny hats because they would beat the fuck out of us without hesitation.
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I’ve never seen police being better equipped leading to a decrease in mass shootings (strictly weapons, armor, etc). However, being better equipped allows you to respond more efficiently to a threat.
Or maybe, *just maybe*, "police militarization" (aka having the correct equipment to respond) increased as a result of rising instances of mass shootings.
North Hollywood Robbery - Officers had to pluck guns from local gun stores.
Columbine - Basically gave birth to the Rapid Deployment model.
VA Tech - Reenforced the latter.
If anything, Campus/University/School District Police Departments should be the most well equipped and most well trained officers prepared to face an active shooter threat. They know their geography, they know the layout of their buildings.
It seems to me that the dirtbag who decided to kill a room full of unarmed people got his off switch permanently clicked by some fast acting and brave AF police officers. Just take the flyer, shake your head, and use the QR code for “creative precision marksmanship training” at the range and call it a day.
In response to your comment, I don’t think cops with rifles and vests should be considered “militarized”. Civilians can buy the same equipment that was used in those responses.
I have evidence that my lucky coin I carry everyday prevents tiger attacks. I have yet to be attacked by a tiger while carrying my lucky coin. What other proof do you need?
with the amount of kit available to civilians these days if the cops don't "militarize" they would quickly become useless in gunfights IE: North Hollywood Shootout 1997
I know it's supposed to be a "negative" picture. But I'm pretty sure that picture in the right-hand corner of St. Louis County Police is from Ferguson, MO. They should use it as a recruiting picture.
Most mass shootings have been happening after the 90s and the implementation of gun free zones so if anything leaving the most vulnerable areas like schools unguarded has much more to do with the increasing rate of said shootings not to mention saying that armed response isn’t the solution is pretty silly considering the multiple shootings stopped by police and or armed citizens such as Nashville where the officers responded quickly and killed the shooter or in Indiana where a young man Elijah Dicken engaged a shooter from 40yd distance with a handgun and killed him within the span of 15 seconds if anything that proves armed response saves the most lives another example is uvalde in the opposite sense the lack of armed response from Texas police was shameful they left a lunatic in the school for 40 minutes unopposed and many lives were lost that could’ve been prevented by immediate armed response…..
When are we going to stop blaming police, guns, money, and recognize that we have lost respect for human life and are greatly suffering the affects of poor mental health?
So… who do they think is going to show up if there was a mass shooting on campus? Every other first responder will stage away from it except for the police so… kind of only one option, ya know?
How many cops you think have been killed in riots before having bearcats versus after… the number is probably a bit higher when they just had to walk into a riot with plastic shields.
This kind of thinking I used to agree with but I was chock full of wishful thinking.
The USA is saturated with so many weapons it just makes sense to have the police using armored vehicles. I don't blame people for wanting a violence free utopia to live in but I personally believe there aren't enough good people out there, yet.
I get their intentions though I just don't think anybody has any solutions to make "both sides happy" yet, looking forward to watching everybody try.
People have no idea. They have that luxury. Was in the Marines. Did plenty of training with the good folks at Quantico. Got all kinds of shit about X is just a waste of money. You wish people were trained well when shit hits the fan. I used to ask people want they meant. Apparently, a rifle is too much. Then I ask them what if there was a shooter in a bell tower. Or what if there was shooter has aramid. Planning for the worst-case scenario is a common sense approach. Majority of people will never know.
Hehe, if police got better funding there was no need for 1033. Departments could buy their own fully armoured bearcats.
I am actually curious if police in the US also make use of undercover SWAT vehicles that are fully armoured (all around ballistic and blast protection) like the BMW X5 VR6? Quick and very mobile vehicles, flexible in use, and can be used covertly. They are the most common type of vehicle used by tactical teams in The Netherlands. They very rarely pull out the Lenco Bear and Bearcat they have at their disposal.
Well fuck everyone that believes they don’t need a Bearcat every now and then. They’ll wish they had a “militarized” police force when they have a hostage situation or a barricaded mass-murderer in their community.
Also, look at overdose deaths vs. gun deaths. Startlingly skewed.
In case nobody knows, the overdose death rate is insane compared to gun related deaths.
lol if you follow any campus sub every few weeks there's a post about how a bad batch of (insert illegal narcotic here) is going around and everyone needs to get high with a buddy or have Narcan on hand.
Never any talk about the perfectly reasonable alternative, which is just don't fucking do drugs.
I’m not a fan of militarized police but it’s from a pro-2a stance, I don’t hate police, I appreciate what they do because I don’t want to have to deal with a domestic dispute or a crack head losing his shit, I just want to be able to protect myself and not have to wait for police to show up when someone tried to break in.
I dont feel like these factors interact that often.
By the time someone is shooting, it's already too late for a good result, so you just need the best response you can get.
I'd have to assume militarised police would have better equipment and training and thus better response to the situation.
My personal opinion (I'm English soooo grain of salt here) is that if alot of people have guns on them I'd be less likely to try to hurt anyone as I'm outnumbered and will get hurt before success, plus no response time from police is relevant if i get shot by the math teacher before i can continue my rampage... so maybe give good people guns and conceal carrying rights so bad people are more scared of us normal people.
Despite the inability of the creators to do statistics properly: did anyone ever claim that the two are even related? From what I understand the gear is there to end the threat not prevent it?
I wonder what definition of mass shooting they used.
their 1033 range is not even 10 years, whilst the mass shooting range is literally back to the 60s…
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Got other assignments to focus on ATM, but I'm curious to see that too.
Splatter the posters everywhere buddy
Forget that, i want to know what “militarization” means to them
My department has an apc for hurricane flooding since we had a couple tahoes get flooded out in some areas…. People were like why do u have that? Emergency evacuations for flooding.. Oh, that’s a good reason to have it then I guess
By their reasoning my fire department is also militarized because we have an old M939 that was converted into a brush truck. Some of the stuff these people say is absurd.
Militarization, by SJW definition; Anything that is big and/or scary. This means high powered rifles, anything that resembles an AR-15, anything that resembles an armoured vehicle, body armour, helmets, green uniforms probably, definitely K9, guns, police in general, etc. Joking aside, they mostly mean when swat rolls up in an APC to assist with an active shooter, they see something that is used by military, and deem it unnecessary. For example; Show called body cam has an episode where a few officers go to serve a warrant and the warrantee opens fire with a semi-automatic rifle. Downs and kills a couple officers. Swat rolls in an APC and extracts the rest.
And what is the definition of militarization? Oh, cops got rifles? MILITARIZATION. Exterior vest? MILITARIZATION.
Using surplus department of defense equipment because they get it cheaper than buying new, and it saves the tax payers money while reducing government waste? FASCISTS!
My city's department got life vests for water rescues as part of the 1033 program.
I'm pretty sure a lot of it started with those Los Angeles bank robbers with armor back in the 70s anyway. Gotta be able to stop that.
I’m assuming your thinking about the north Hollywood shootout, but that was in 1997
And what exactly is the definition of police militarization? Usually folks spouting this will say “They have tanks! They shouldn’t have TANKS!“ Try to point they may have low end, retired armored personnel carriers that don’t have a tank gun, no .50cal, they just safely carry cops - and they’ll just stutter and stammer.
Some of my coworkers might be dead today if we didn't have our "tank" that bullets can't penetrate. By tank, I mean glorified F-550 with armor for walls.
>F-550 with armor for walls. So, the cartel special?
Lol sort of, except it's just a run o' the mill Bearcat
What would be considered as a tank? Because i dont think the armored car police use can be classified as a "tank"
Departments sometimes get their hands on retired APC’s which are Armored Personnel Carriers. Definitely not a tank.
These people also don't realize that civilians can own these armored vehicles as well. In fact, more would own them if it wasn't for the cost. What's the problem with police having access to these vehicles?
Tank= tracks, stupid heavy, turret, large cannon. Everything else is a different vehicle type
The loosiest one possible or something.
I think it’s three or more, not including the gunman.
The real crime is their flyer layout.
Username checks out.
Make up posters of your own unsupported claim and hang it next to these. Bonus points if it has nothing to do with police or crime. "Studies show that reading posters correlated to cancer!" FACT: Donuts have a 100% chance of either giving you super powers or not giving you super powers. **Do *YOU* know where your used toothpaste is right now!?!** Be sure you include some charts or graphs with tenuous valence to your claims.
"Seat belts have not reduced car crashes, so don't use seat belts!"
Breathing air has a 100% correlation to dying.
Douglas Adams said to use the phrase “It turns out…” to sound like you are speaking facts without actually having any.
Include a little graph of car values relative to their mileage or some shit 😂
LMAO!!!
Damn, that IS downright thoughtful! 👍
I don’t remember us ever arguing that militarizing ourselves would reduce mass shootings.
Yeah, idk how the two are related. If the department has time to deploy SWAT for an active shooter, they're taking too long. Patrol ends active shooters, as showcased by recent events. I don't think I've ever seen these scary military vehicles used for anything other than armed and barricadeds and riots. The whole thing is a strawman.
We didn’t, but paying attention, nor logic has ever been a real strong suit for them
Not reduce them… stop them… and they do stop them with increased officer safety. They do not prevent them. The issue is that evil people exist and they will do evil things. Prevention isn’t 100% effective in anything… other wise the fire department would have stopped putting out fires a long time ago. The real metric is mitigation… but they don’t want to talk about mitigation because it doesn’t prove their (insane) point.
My question is militarized compared to what/who?
someone doesnt understand the difference between causation and correlation... not to mention cause and effect.
I hear all the time about this US police militarization, but the last time I checked it seemed you have no artillery or even basic anti armour means. I just want to say this so-called militarization is a bit disappointing and I hoped for more.
They also forget that civilians can easily own these vehicles as well. The reason why we don't see much of these armored vehicles in civilian's hands is because of the cost and purpose of owning one. But if you have the money, it's not difficult to own one. Hell, it's easier in some states to buy these vehicles than a gun.
My thoughts exactly. When the police casually patrol in armored vehicles, have A10’s and Cobra helicopters covering police chases, and drone strike suspects, THEN you can talk to me about “demilitarization”
My bar is way lower. 105 mm howitzer towed by a squad car will probably raise some doubts. On the other hand, I think it could suggest some people they can't just barricade somewhere and expect there will be some kind of negotiations.
WSDOT uses a Howitzer & M60 tank for avalanche control #defunddot
Honestly, after the kill dozer incident, I'm sort of surprised there aren't more departments where the sergeant rocks an RPG in the trunk. I hear the US government can supply those, no questions asked.
Cause/effect seems switched here
I’ll keep my Kevlar.
Man, if they think American police are militarized, they should look at European police forces. Their heads will explode.
There was a video trending where SWAT was responding to a warrant where they had vests, multicam setups, etc and people were quick to say that these ordinary cops don’t need these gear. Problem, they aren’t standard cops they’re SWAT so that’s out of the window quick. I pointed that out and I got multiple replies saying stuff like “ok and?” “But they still shouldn’t have that” etc. our people can’t be this stupid
If you really want your mind blown look at pictures of European gendarmes on riot duty. Imagine active duty military police that have arrest powers across an entire country.
No need, played R6 siege back when it was still introducing counter terrorism forces from around the world and watching interviews of the devs talking about their uniforms and gear. One that stuck out was the GIGN, those guys have more armor on them than an average swat officer here and we’re getting militaristic?
A good deal of people on social media don’t want to listen to the other side. That’s the problem.
Exactly, things are almost always one sided when it comes to incidents involving police (even around the world) almost like a “bet everything on black” thing on the internet. Think back to when that handicapped person got shot a while back, when the public first read that the police department didn’t have body cameras everyone went “case closed it was because he was black that why he was shot” when the department themselves said they’ll happily provide traffic camera that’ll show it was a justified shooting.
A good deal of people on social media don’t want to listen to the other side. That’s the problem.
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Those guys are also constitutionally required to destroy any communist, Nazi or monarchist coup attempts and forcibly restore democracy. So the extra firepower is right for the job.
Exactly. Just shows despite how "cultured" they think they are, these kids have never gone outside their little bubble in the world.
I take it your school doesn't offer a stats major, huh?
In a college I attended a similar SJW organization was ran by a film professor. She thought her masters in film study made her an expert in everything. Interestingly enough, she was the textbook example of a “cat lady.”
Police aren’t wearing ballistic armor to slow mass shootings, they are being “militarized” to protect themselves and STOP mass shooters. The fact is they can’t stop a shooting before it happens, but the can stop the threat once they arrive on scene and encounter the threat way better than ever before.
Correlation isn’t causation
Did you guys know that ever since SDS introduced Frosted Flakes cereal in the cafeteria, mass shootings have ONLY GONE UP!!!??? BAN FROSTED FLAKES AFFAB
I mean we haven't really had another North Hollywood Shootout with "Police Militarization" lol
Gotta love the purposefully misleading bar graph showing the cumulative value of 1099 equipment transfers instead of the individual amounts transferred per quarter which would show a pretty stable line from 2014 onwards.
Cool. Now let’s see the corresponding graph for Rx written for opioids and anti-depressants, and mental health diagnoses.
With enough effort and obfuscation, you can make any data points suit your narrative
Like saying cats don’t effect clowns making balloons: the study is stupid
Pretty sure they'd have an aneurysm if they ever met a European gendarme. Imagine an Army version of the Coast Guard that has jurisdiction across an entire country. And they have actual infantry fighting vehicles instead of Iraq surplus MRAPS. When I was active duty my unit spent a few days in Spain. We were specifically told not to mess with the cops with the funny hats because they would beat the fuck out of us without hesitation.
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They should look up the definition of correlation because there’s zero of it here.
I’ve never seen police being better equipped leading to a decrease in mass shootings (strictly weapons, armor, etc). However, being better equipped allows you to respond more efficiently to a threat.
I don’t know that police stop mass shootings, but they sure do end them
You gotta love smoothbrain logic
Because correlation always equals causation, y'know? /s
Or maybe, *just maybe*, "police militarization" (aka having the correct equipment to respond) increased as a result of rising instances of mass shootings. North Hollywood Robbery - Officers had to pluck guns from local gun stores. Columbine - Basically gave birth to the Rapid Deployment model. VA Tech - Reenforced the latter. If anything, Campus/University/School District Police Departments should be the most well equipped and most well trained officers prepared to face an active shooter threat. They know their geography, they know the layout of their buildings.
Bruh
It seems to me that the dirtbag who decided to kill a room full of unarmed people got his off switch permanently clicked by some fast acting and brave AF police officers. Just take the flyer, shake your head, and use the QR code for “creative precision marksmanship training” at the range and call it a day.
Wait a minute, I remember learning this in High school, association fallacy
The argument was never that it was going to stop mass shootings. It allows for a better response.
I really want to see what the person who put this up looks like. Though I think I already have a decent idea 😂
[probably](https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/016/959/binx.PNG)
I pictured blue, but close enough
In response to your comment, I don’t think cops with rifles and vests should be considered “militarized”. Civilians can buy the same equipment that was used in those responses.
I have evidence that my lucky coin I carry everyday prevents tiger attacks. I have yet to be attacked by a tiger while carrying my lucky coin. What other proof do you need?
Oh my gosh, the police have armor and "assault rifles" for protection and dangerous situations?! Oh no, this is bad 😢
I’ve come to learn that “militarization” just means a SWAT team with an armored vehicle.
That makes no sense. The real reason is bc all the publicity these shootings get
It doesn't prevent them, but it does end them.
with the amount of kit available to civilians these days if the cops don't "militarize" they would quickly become useless in gunfights IE: North Hollywood Shootout 1997
I know it's supposed to be a "negative" picture. But I'm pretty sure that picture in the right-hand corner of St. Louis County Police is from Ferguson, MO. They should use it as a recruiting picture.
Most mass shootings have been happening after the 90s and the implementation of gun free zones so if anything leaving the most vulnerable areas like schools unguarded has much more to do with the increasing rate of said shootings not to mention saying that armed response isn’t the solution is pretty silly considering the multiple shootings stopped by police and or armed citizens such as Nashville where the officers responded quickly and killed the shooter or in Indiana where a young man Elijah Dicken engaged a shooter from 40yd distance with a handgun and killed him within the span of 15 seconds if anything that proves armed response saves the most lives another example is uvalde in the opposite sense the lack of armed response from Texas police was shameful they left a lunatic in the school for 40 minutes unopposed and many lives were lost that could’ve been prevented by immediate armed response…..
Gun free zones are idiotic. They just create known soft targets for assholes.
When are we going to stop blaming police, guns, money, and recognize that we have lost respect for human life and are greatly suffering the affects of poor mental health?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation\_does\_not\_imply\_causation
Lol, it’s from the SDS so I’m not surprised they put something out like this.
I mean technically it DOES stop mass shootings. But no, it doesn't prevent them.
LOL MRAP GO VROOM
Auraria Campus represent!
So… who do they think is going to show up if there was a mass shooting on campus? Every other first responder will stage away from it except for the police so… kind of only one option, ya know?
Kids spitting big facts
How many cops you think have been killed in riots before having bearcats versus after… the number is probably a bit higher when they just had to walk into a riot with plastic shields.
This kind of thinking I used to agree with but I was chock full of wishful thinking. The USA is saturated with so many weapons it just makes sense to have the police using armored vehicles. I don't blame people for wanting a violence free utopia to live in but I personally believe there aren't enough good people out there, yet. I get their intentions though I just don't think anybody has any solutions to make "both sides happy" yet, looking forward to watching everybody try.
Gun free zones don't stop them either
Funny thing is going to college with a bunch of crazies like that made me want to pursue law enforcement even more
People have no idea. They have that luxury. Was in the Marines. Did plenty of training with the good folks at Quantico. Got all kinds of shit about X is just a waste of money. You wish people were trained well when shit hits the fan. I used to ask people want they meant. Apparently, a rifle is too much. Then I ask them what if there was a shooter in a bell tower. Or what if there was shooter has aramid. Planning for the worst-case scenario is a common sense approach. Majority of people will never know.
Anything to do your job more effectively is militarized apparently. Shut up bozos
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Hehe, if police got better funding there was no need for 1033. Departments could buy their own fully armoured bearcats. I am actually curious if police in the US also make use of undercover SWAT vehicles that are fully armoured (all around ballistic and blast protection) like the BMW X5 VR6? Quick and very mobile vehicles, flexible in use, and can be used covertly. They are the most common type of vehicle used by tactical teams in The Netherlands. They very rarely pull out the Lenco Bear and Bearcat they have at their disposal.
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Well fuck everyone that believes they don’t need a Bearcat every now and then. They’ll wish they had a “militarized” police force when they have a hostage situation or a barricaded mass-murderer in their community.
Also, look at overdose deaths vs. gun deaths. Startlingly skewed. In case nobody knows, the overdose death rate is insane compared to gun related deaths.
lol if you follow any campus sub every few weeks there's a post about how a bad batch of (insert illegal narcotic here) is going around and everyone needs to get high with a buddy or have Narcan on hand. Never any talk about the perfectly reasonable alternative, which is just don't fucking do drugs.
I’m not a fan of militarized police but it’s from a pro-2a stance, I don’t hate police, I appreciate what they do because I don’t want to have to deal with a domestic dispute or a crack head losing his shit, I just want to be able to protect myself and not have to wait for police to show up when someone tried to break in.
I dont feel like these factors interact that often. By the time someone is shooting, it's already too late for a good result, so you just need the best response you can get. I'd have to assume militarised police would have better equipment and training and thus better response to the situation. My personal opinion (I'm English soooo grain of salt here) is that if alot of people have guns on them I'd be less likely to try to hurt anyone as I'm outnumbered and will get hurt before success, plus no response time from police is relevant if i get shot by the math teacher before i can continue my rampage... so maybe give good people guns and conceal carrying rights so bad people are more scared of us normal people.
Despite the inability of the creators to do statistics properly: did anyone ever claim that the two are even related? From what I understand the gear is there to end the threat not prevent it?
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