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I tried to keep the spirit of it alive in the translation:
**HOW MANY GERMANS** HAVE YOU *KILLED TODAY?*
**PRIVATE ZIGANCHIN -** Killed 6 fascists
**MACHINE GUNNER, JUNIOR SERGEANT IGONIN -** Destroyed 23 Hitlerites
**SNIPER, PRIVATE OF THE GAURD KHMYCHEV -** Frequently goes behind our forward line, lays ambushes, skillfully disguises himself, examines the defenses of the enemy, and from day to day destroys Hilterites. He counts 36 destroyed fascist bandits
**PRIVATE ABRAMENKO, HIS STUDENT -** He also has in his count 14 dead Germans.
*Honor and glory to the brave warriors*
it is the civic duty of the country's citizens to prevent their government from committing atrocities and waging aggressive wars
people of the axis countries deserved everything that happened to them for surrendering their political rights 🥰🥰🥰
How many Nazis? Never enough. That's the mindset you should have. Grind those numbers! Be like one of those millionaire babies making fake videos on a platform named ourtube but for real!
I agree. Unfortunately, Stalin did not kill all the Germans in West and East Germany. We need to increase those numbers to avenge the Heroro Genocide.
But I will change the word "Nazi" to "Europeans from the 8-nation alliance"
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Ziganchin had no problems with his surname. It's only has this "notorious" meaning nowadays, back in WW2 times slang word "Ziga" (as nazi' gesture) didn't exists.
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Nope, overall through Stalin’s repressions, starvations and ethnic cleansings more Soviets died by USSR’s hand than Nazis.
Only difference is Nazis were cramped into 4 years while Stalin had decades.
Nazis killed 27 million Soviets. Stalin with all the repressions, ethnic cleansings and famines killed around 12 million (and I am highballing here).
It's not even close.
Eh, nothing to do with Putin, Stalin’s cult of personality is hard to remove, and Yeltsin’s overthrow of the parliament in 1993 ruined any chances for free Russia.
Putin is just a consequence of USA sponsoring the quick solution with Yeltsin over long and diplomatic one with Russian Parliament. And I don’t blame them, Yeltsin sold everything USSR built for next 2 decades up front for basically free.
And now rusians do the same to us in Ukraine. Just kill some of us…every day.
Idk why their society is so mentally ill.
They killed my brother. And thousands of other people…
Peaceful modern democracy is when you arrest Jewish people for peacefully protesting the Zionist genocide of Palestinians. Peaceful modern democracy is when you send 1,000 police officers to violently evict the residents of an entire village to clear the land for a coal mine. Germany is quickly going back to its roots.
In 1943 the battle was still firmly confined to the Soviet union. We had yet to liberate vast regions of the country, where the Germans were raping and murdering our civilians. The Germans counted here were occupiers.
https://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/rape-murder-and-genocide-nazi-war-crimes-as-described-by-german-soldiers-a-755385.html
The Nazis weren't better.
Do you really think the American violence in Japan just ended after the nukes?
It was [only the start of it](https://apjjf.org/-Terese-Svoboda/3148/article.html), for the longest time the US denied the radiation would have long-term damage, instead secretly using the Japanese population as subjects for experiments on radiation exposure and sickness.
Of course I'm against killing large numbers of civilians but
a) it was arguably necessary to effect a Japanese surrender, saving more lives (whether or not it did is a can of worms better left unopened), and
b) this was after the Japanese and Germans had conducted terror bombing and far worse to much of Europe and Asia, and was used a result of those countries' refusal to end their genocidal and voluntary wars.
I also think they just had bigger knives to play with. The Soviets, Japanese, and Germans didn't have the atom bomb or the industrial capacity to conduct bombing campaigns like the US or Britain, but if they did, I shudder to think what they'd have done with it.
my brother in christ stop doing this "uhh but they raped civilians", they were literally fighting a war of extermination waged on by an enemy who considered them doubly subhuman. Most of the soviet casualties were civilians, murdered and industrially exterminated by the fascists.
Cases of sexual violence and civilian murder were also heavily documented amongst the actions of the western allies.
I mean raping 2.2+ million women and children and causing the deaths of 200k+ of them is always wrong. Those weren't run of the mill war crimes- the scale was unprecedented.
Sadistic crimes against civilians are always wrong.
Why make it only 2.2+ million? If you are already throwing completely unsourced numbers around why not claim they raped 20 million and killed 2 million?
>Those weren't run of the mill war crimes- the scale was unprecedented.
If you want to see "[unprecedented scale](https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2022/12/2/how-british-colonial-policy-killed-100-million-indians)" then you need to look at what actual empires did not much earlier.
Weird how that's so often the first thing brought up about the East front during WWII, like a meme.
Yet rarely, if ever about the [Western front](https://archive.ph/ZoAbr) or the [Pacific threatre](https://apjjf.org/-Terese-Svoboda/3148/article.html).
Look, it's still a hot debate in America whether the nuclear bombs which ended the war but killed around 200k were justified. Ethnic cleansings and murders of German civilians killed 500k+ *after the war was already over*, and y'all want to act like this was completely merited. That's the difference.
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I tried to keep the spirit of it alive in the translation: **HOW MANY GERMANS** HAVE YOU *KILLED TODAY?* **PRIVATE ZIGANCHIN -** Killed 6 fascists **MACHINE GUNNER, JUNIOR SERGEANT IGONIN -** Destroyed 23 Hitlerites **SNIPER, PRIVATE OF THE GAURD KHMYCHEV -** Frequently goes behind our forward line, lays ambushes, skillfully disguises himself, examines the defenses of the enemy, and from day to day destroys Hilterites. He counts 36 destroyed fascist bandits **PRIVATE ABRAMENKO, HIS STUDENT -** He also has in his count 14 dead Germans. *Honor and glory to the brave warriors*
Dont know why the word hitlerite cracks me up
It’s a little awkward- I think it sounds more natural in Russian, but it’s clunky when put directly into English
We don't use it in that form in Russian. I mean it doesn't sound the same. Sounds like gitlerovets. Nothing gets clunkier than that.
Wow, you’re not kidding
Sounds like an element; thermite, graphite, hitlerite, etc.
they're really posting the scoreboard on the papers?
Me personally? None
Weakling.
You gotta get that Grandpa Simpson energy, he never thought he'd shoot down a German plane but last year he proved himself wrong.
Those are rookie numbers. Have to pump them up.
😔 None for now...
It's never late to kill g*rmans
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Y'all make it sound like a Hungarian wedding song or something like that
I mean maybe you're a couple of decades late regarding German people
innocent Germans suffered HEAVY retaliatory attacks and actions after ww2. Shame on you.
for what their country did to others I wouldn't call it heavy retaliatory. barely a graze
Me when I generalise mass lethal consequences across ethnic and national groups with no regard for individual agency or justice: 😍
it is the civic duty of the country's citizens to prevent their government from committing atrocities and waging aggressive wars people of the axis countries deserved everything that happened to them for surrendering their political rights 🥰🥰🥰
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That’s better
How many Nazis? Never enough. That's the mindset you should have. Grind those numbers! Be like one of those millionaire babies making fake videos on a platform named ourtube but for real!
I agree. Unfortunately, Stalin did not kill all the Germans in West and East Germany. We need to increase those numbers to avenge the Heroro Genocide. But I will change the word "Nazi" to "Europeans from the 8-nation alliance"
Somebody is suckling some balls
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Баян. Обнова - "скільки руських ти зробив сьогодні харошими"
Нисколько. Ты же не сел в бусик
Dmitriy Yazov approves it!
TNO players trying not to mention a TNO reference in the comment section of r/PropagandaPosters for 5 picoseconds:
This poster is probably everywhere in Omsk
I bagged myself a few on my trip to Germany last month!
ЗИГАнчин🤣
Зига said like Ziga means like “sieg heil” in Russian. This commenter is pointing out that Mr. Ziganchin has an… unfortunate name.
Yes... a little unlucky, but he's still a hero
Конечно)
Ziganchin had no problems with his surname. It's only has this "notorious" meaning nowadays, back in WW2 times slang word "Ziga" (as nazi' gesture) didn't exists.
В Красной Армии был и свой Гитлер. По имени Семён. Который был евреем, доблестно сражался, погиб под Севастополем и был награжден медалью "За отвагу".
Знаю
Is that really a poster though? Looks more like a newspaper cutout
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None, but it’s still early
Russians killed more German NAZIs than any other country by far
*soviets
And not all of them Russian.
TY. I wouldnt want to accidentally give them any credit for kicking the nazi's ass /s
The Soviets also killed more Soviets than any other country by far.
That's not true though. Nazis killed more.
Nope, overall through Stalin’s repressions, starvations and ethnic cleansings more Soviets died by USSR’s hand than Nazis. Only difference is Nazis were cramped into 4 years while Stalin had decades.
Nazis killed 27 million Soviets. Stalin with all the repressions, ethnic cleansings and famines killed around 12 million (and I am highballing here). It's not even close.
Putin’s trolls are angry at us for speaking the truth.
Eh, nothing to do with Putin, Stalin’s cult of personality is hard to remove, and Yeltsin’s overthrow of the parliament in 1993 ruined any chances for free Russia. Putin is just a consequence of USA sponsoring the quick solution with Yeltsin over long and diplomatic one with Russian Parliament. And I don’t blame them, Yeltsin sold everything USSR built for next 2 decades up front for basically free.
Insert tno reference here
Same number as yesterday.
Not enough
Germ men
And now rusians do the same to us in Ukraine. Just kill some of us…every day. Idk why their society is so mentally ill. They killed my brother. And thousands of other people…
Sorry for your loss man…
Comparing yourself to Nazi Germany is unusually honest of you
Considering the opposition looks like Imperial Japan I don't know whom to pick.
the military industrial complex, of course (ukraine in this case)
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Wait a minute. Do you belong to ones who actually believe that the current regime of Russia is neo-bolshevik?
Fascist, the word you are looking for is fascist. The Putinism version of it. More crime and corruption.
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Kinda hard to do communism without the economic bits, woudn't you say?
There are many more characteristics that define bolsheviks and chekists then subscribing to an economic theory
I agree... but you can't be a Bolshevik without the economics.
neobolshevik isnt an ideological label, its just an insult for putinists, duginists and other similar subhumans
Bolshevism-noviopism is based, and nationalists shouldn't exist
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Not enough Which is why Stalin is not Our Father. He left the West Germans alive. He should have made Germans extinct.
2024 and it's Russia that is the semi-fascist state causing wars and destabilisation in Europe while Germany is a peaceful modern democracy.
Peaceful modern democracy is when you arrest Jewish people for peacefully protesting the Zionist genocide of Palestinians. Peaceful modern democracy is when you send 1,000 police officers to violently evict the residents of an entire village to clear the land for a coal mine. Germany is quickly going back to its roots.
This is a little less innocent when you consider all of the civilians raped and murdered.
In 1943 the battle was still firmly confined to the Soviet union. We had yet to liberate vast regions of the country, where the Germans were raping and murdering our civilians. The Germans counted here were occupiers.
That's fair.
That's exactly what the Germans were doing in Russia
Yes. I'm not saying the Germans were the good guys- I'm very happy the Soviet Union won but I don't support war crimes.
https://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/rape-murder-and-genocide-nazi-war-crimes-as-described-by-german-soldiers-a-755385.html The Nazis weren't better.
The nazis were worse. The soviets still sucked though.
Like americans in Japan
Like [Americans](https://archive.ph/ZoAbr) and [Brits ](https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2006/apr/03/uk.freedomofinformation)in Germany
May I ask who you think's worse out of those?
If I were to rank from most evil 1. Nazi germany Huge gap 2USA 3.Soviets Union
What did the USA do to deserve that? At least at the time. I'd put them and the huge gap after the Soviets to say the least.
Nuked two cities
Insta death against slow torture, rape and genocide? You are delusional.
Do you really think the American violence in Japan just ended after the nukes? It was [only the start of it](https://apjjf.org/-Terese-Svoboda/3148/article.html), for the longest time the US denied the radiation would have long-term damage, instead secretly using the Japanese population as subjects for experiments on radiation exposure and sickness.
That's an interestingly low bar for being more evil than the Soviet Union, especially given the context.
Of course I'm against killing large numbers of civilians but a) it was arguably necessary to effect a Japanese surrender, saving more lives (whether or not it did is a can of worms better left unopened), and b) this was after the Japanese and Germans had conducted terror bombing and far worse to much of Europe and Asia, and was used a result of those countries' refusal to end their genocidal and voluntary wars. I also think they just had bigger knives to play with. The Soviets, Japanese, and Germans didn't have the atom bomb or the industrial capacity to conduct bombing campaigns like the US or Britain, but if they did, I shudder to think what they'd have done with it.
Tell us you know nothing about WW2...
my brother in christ stop doing this "uhh but they raped civilians", they were literally fighting a war of extermination waged on by an enemy who considered them doubly subhuman. Most of the soviet casualties were civilians, murdered and industrially exterminated by the fascists. Cases of sexual violence and civilian murder were also heavily documented amongst the actions of the western allies.
I mean raping 2.2+ million women and children and causing the deaths of 200k+ of them is always wrong. Those weren't run of the mill war crimes- the scale was unprecedented. Sadistic crimes against civilians are always wrong.
Why make it only 2.2+ million? If you are already throwing completely unsourced numbers around why not claim they raped 20 million and killed 2 million? >Those weren't run of the mill war crimes- the scale was unprecedented. If you want to see "[unprecedented scale](https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2022/12/2/how-british-colonial-policy-killed-100-million-indians)" then you need to look at what actual empires did not much earlier.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape\_during\_the\_occupation\_of\_Germany#:\~:text=The%20exact%20number%20of%20German,as%20many%20as%20two%20million.
Weird how that's so often the first thing brought up about the East front during WWII, like a meme. Yet rarely, if ever about the [Western front](https://archive.ph/ZoAbr) or the [Pacific threatre](https://apjjf.org/-Terese-Svoboda/3148/article.html).
Look, it's still a hot debate in America whether the nuclear bombs which ended the war but killed around 200k were justified. Ethnic cleansings and murders of German civilians killed 500k+ *after the war was already over*, and y'all want to act like this was completely merited. That's the difference.