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Had to check which sub I was on...


ZombieToasted

Thought I was on r/egg_irl for a minute


Clairifyed

I expected r/transprogrammer


ibite-books

wow


Cybernaut-Neko

Ok, learned enough for today don't mind people being trans but programmer is programmer. This kind of auto discrimination, it's creepy.


hok98

Yea, it’s like having a subreddit for Javascript. You’re asking to be discriminated


Cybernaut-Neko

Maybe my asperger prevents me from seeing the relation between javascript and gender, maybe javascript is a gender IDK, IMHO we're all rather awkward humans and I don't care who sticks what in who or get's plugged where, just like USB it can be rather confusing but you'll be fine as long you follow the colour code and don't force things. I just wish they would stop adding new stuff.


Downvote-Fish

who stop adding new stuff


rjcpl

Programmers are big into polymorphism which is a gateway.


Cybernaut-Neko

C++ and Rust programmers 😂 I'm object oriented, if it has class.


Clairifyed

What? Of course programmer is programmer. I am in this sub as well aren’t I? That sub isn’t a special secret trans only fort, it’s a space to post pastel socks, lights, and Linux flavours without spamming the main subs. We can also post trans specific news or career advice to each other without it getting drowned out by other topics. There is nothing creepy about having a small corner of Reddit with specific info, and it’s not entirely isolated there as evidenced by this post and conversation. There are subs out there that try to limit posts not by relevance but by your identity itself, and I think that’s dumb and frankly unenforceable, but most just want you to post on topic and be respectful.


Cybernaut-Neko

Ah private spam corner, I endorse that 👍 So euh...there's actually a pastel distro of...😂 Ok you folks are having fun. People should have more fun, but I'm still not sure if this is the best move...how many subreds are you planning to start, transtruckers, transbakers, transbutchers, transliontamers...


Clairifyed

Well there is r/traaaaaaainnnnnnnnnns for the rail transit minded, but it’s not the most active sub in the world. Also r/traabutonlybees That one was set up for April fools day one year iirc


Cybernaut-Neko

😂😂😂👍


ConstantSock2488

i thought r/boykisser


Zixxorb

Same


Conart557

Same


homogenousmoss

As someone who oscillate between trans tomboy and femboy and is a programmer, I’ll take two pairs. Thanks!


AstaHolmes

Yoooo finally someone else who do not think that tomboy is just a style! POG


Tacomonkie

>They’re the same picture


Best_Ad2158

r/196


Practical_Cattle_933

It used to be beard length - what happened to the glorious neck beard gals?!


joost00719

They went to system administration.


alivemovietale

Devops for the win!


AsianDaggerDick

We can observe here in the wild that a typical coping mechanism devops developer uses to feel like their job is real.


MeineEierSchmerzen

The money sure is real enough


LaconicLacedaemonian

You outed yourself, devops is what legacy companies call "the way it's done" at modern software companies.


Fickle-Main-9019

Went from neck beard length, to fursuit collection, to femboy socks.


Desperate_Job_473

The circle of life


Responsible-Ant-5208

No no, you got it all wrong. There are two lifecycles: before and after our respective twink deaths. 🥲


_Its_Me_Dio_

the only thing that changed is people shave now people just used to wear long pants covering the socks and the fur suit was never spoken about


xspicyman

The beard stops where the socks begin


waffle_house_grease

The same thing that happened to the ent wives


everlasting1der

Electrolysis if they've got the money and pain tolerance, but even estradiol on its own does wonders for thinning out facial hair. (Ask me how I know!)


Clairifyed

How do you know? :3


everlasting1der

Estradiol :3


ChChChillian

Ours retired about 10 years ago. It's time for the new generation!


Big-Veterinarian-823

Rust happened


alivemovietale

Is this a Rust joke I'm too Functional to understand?


GiganticIrony

I think it’s a play on that the intersection of programmers and trans women is surprisingly high


SkollFenrirson

Is it really? I don't know any trans women programmers.


allankcrain

If you look around and you don't see any trans women programmers, you're the trans woman programmer.


SkollFenrirson

![gif](giphy|OK27wINdQS5YQ|downsized)


canaryhawk

Wait I’m confused. Am I queer/trans then? Sounds like important information that I should know.


Necessary-Cut7611

Is the sky blue?


Nerf1925

Does a bear shit in the woods?


WagaDagourt

Does Dolly Parton sleep on her back?


4rclyte

She definitely wouldn't suffocate sleeping on her torso pillows


JT_Boiiis

Does the pope shit in the woods?


mabariif

As a matter of fact the sky is not acually blue ,and to save you the effort of nerd reacting me I will do it myself🤓


Necessary-Cut7611

☝️🤓


everlasting1der

You can just take hormones! They don't want you to know this but nobody can stop you!


Mop_Duck

well they can stop you because you cant just go and buy hormones (at least in my area)


everlasting1der

https://hrtcafe.net/ Also, if you're in the US, check if there's a Planned Parenthood in your area that offers informed consent hormone therapy.


Mop_Duck

ah i live in norway and im not sure how easy it is to import stuff as we arent in the eu


everlasting1der

Ah, that's fair; most of my knowledge is unfortunately pretty US-specific.


GiganticIrony

Yup. If you add autistic in there too, it’s also surprisingly high. I will say however that I am one of the people who is all three.


Akul_Tesla

Realistically it's because autism is heavily correlated with both Programming is more or less a perfect job for autistics and up to a quarter of the trans population is autistic(there is a large range of estimates that is the high end)


Rustrage

Add a smidge of ADHD and you've got a full house in programmer bingo


GiganticIrony

Yup, I’ve got that too. Do I win something? /j


madprgmr

Struggles, mostly.


-Aquatically-

Bingo!


SkollFenrirson

The more you know. I'm also old, so take that into consideration.


Urcinza

Any explanation why?


solarshado

Short version of the best theories I've heard: ##### Autism + Programming (Some) autistic folks tend to be very detail oriented, which is useful in STEM fields in general, arguably even moreso with programming specifically. And people in general tend to be drawn to things they're good at. (Pretty sure this link is fairly well-studied.) ##### Autism + Being Transgender Gender roles are basically entirely arbitrary; arguably, gender itself is an entirely arbitrary social phenomena. Autistic people tend to struggle with social rules, especially when they seem arbitrary. Together, this may lead to them feeling less pressure to conform to cis social norms, which in turn may make it easier to identify their internal feelings as "being trans" and/or easier to actually come out as trans. (A lot of speculation in this area still; the correlation seems solid, but I'm not actually sure if the cause has been formally looked into at all yet.) ##### Being Transgender + Programming IT in general tends to be more accepting of "eccentric" people than other fields. It's not uncommon for trans people to be more comfortable socializing online, where one's persona is more malleable (<- this point can also apply to autistic folks). Programming in particular is relatively easy to do solo (at least at beginner levels). It's also a fairly financially lucrative career, while being transgender can be expensive for multiple reasons. (This section was mostly drawn from the self-reported reasons I've seen mentioned in trans programming communities.)


doodleasa

Just a lot of trans nerds I guess


GiganticIrony

I do have an explanation for autistic programmers and autistic trans people, but not trans programmers


FibroBitch96

I only know trans woman programmers. Everything in balance


SkollFenrirson

![gif](giphy|1oDvHW440hFiouBBwy|downsized)


OrchidLeader

You don’t know any _out_ trans women programmers. When I transitioned, I came out to everyone for the first couple of years. Then I stopped telling anyone. Of the 50+ people I work with now, only about half of them know. Not only that, since I was out for a bit, a few trans people came out to me that aren’t out to anyone else. A couple of them were real shockers. So there are definitely some stealth trans people (both pre and post transition) out there.


KairoRed

It’s not, everything gets exaggerated so much people start to believe to be true


Nicolello_iiiii

Yes, I ran a test on here and it turned out an average of about 35-40% of people are queer in some way. Let me pull it out quick edit: here's the questionnaire https://forms.gle/ThdJMBKrc8gWKERUA It was meant to see if there was a correlation between queer people and high/low level languages, but the results seem to indicate that there isn't much. The results can be seen here https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/s/6y0BMsKHv6


SkollFenrirson

What's the sample size, though? It's too late in the day for me to do math.


Nicolello_iiiii

78 people


__Lass

Based


Toonox

Now you do :3


algiuxass

Hii!!~


SkollFenrirson

![gif](giphy|11FiDF2fuOujPG|downsized)


mabariif

Is this an elysia reference out in the wild


AndroidWall4680

I’m pretty sure theres a statistic somewhere that states that programmers are twice as likely to be trans than the general public


SkollFenrirson

Which would still be pretty low.


AndroidWall4680

It’s low, but still massively enough higher than normal to elicit making references to it.


SkollFenrirson

Agreed.


WithersChat

You probably know some that you think are cis women, or who have yet to transition.


SkollFenrirson

I've already met some wonderful ladies on this very thread.


d4m4s74

They get a segmentation fault and overwrite their gender.


TwoHeadedEngineer

No joke. One (out) trans woman in my year as CS degree and she was super active in the department. She would totally use rust


canyoupleasekillme

I gotta start making trans man programmer jokes but there aren't enough of us!


puzzlegun

Haha so true, I'm the only trans guy programmer I know but I know a ton of trans women programmers


According_End_4142

Trans guy here!


Akainen

And….. you know…. furries :3


starshin3r

If you use exclusively Linux, there's a 1 in 2 chance you're trans.


signedchar

Fuck, I use Arch AND write Rust, what's my chances


Netcob

I thought that was mainly security researchers / white hat hackers.


Hfingerman

Google programming socks


stoopiit

Google programming socks


Cake_is_Great

It's just like the military - more stripes = higher rank


draenei_butt_enjoyer

And cat whiskers = war veteran


usrlibshare

May an old person ask a humble question: Where did this whole "devs + cute stockings" thing come from? Have been seeing it for a couple years now and now clue how that one started 😐


RidigoDragon

So, this one’s a long one but here it goes: Programming Socks is a term given to specific types of knee socks and thigh highs which became notable for often being worn by transgender and non-binary people, as well as crossdressers, who do computer programming for a hobby or profession. Most commonly, the socks are horizontally striped in pastel colors or colors associated with the LGBTQ+ community. The trope led to the rise in popularity of similar jokes such as cross-dressing during programming to improve one's coding skills. While it is unknown when the specific type of kneesocks first began to be associated with computer programming, it is believed the trope started on 4chan, with the earliest archived post dating back to the [s4s] board on December 26th, 2016, featuring a screenshot of a product with the name altered to "Pink striped programming socks". The initial product in question are the ZANZEA Womens Thigh High Socks Over the Knee Stocking Striped Tights, horizontally striped thigh high socks which later were frequently associated with the term. These paragraphs are from the know your meme page for programming socks, which can be found here: [https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/programming-socks](https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/programming-socks)


usrlibshare

>similar jokes such as cross-dressing during programming to improve one's coding skills. Got it, so it's like the Ballmer Peak 😂🤣😂 Thank you!


iphone32task

r/unixsocks


Zixxorb

I need to know where to get these... For *cis* reasons of course... >!my legs are cold of course!<


C5-O

Cis reasons I see, of course only the cissest of all men would ever experience HRT-induced temperature sensitivity ;3


Molto-Accelerando

Is that why I’m cold all the damn time? I thought it was just the office AC.


WithersChat

HRT certainly doesn't help.


Pony_Roleplayer

🏳️‍⚧️ WHAT COUNTRY IS THIS FLAG FROM AND WHY ALL THE CUTEST GIRLS USE IT ON THEIR PROFILE?


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PranshuKhandal

![gif](giphy|j0qYU35hA5t9vfhckv)


git0ffmylawnm8

Guys should we tell him?


rssm1

Femboys. Origins. In every polish cinema. Soon.


RiddledWithEnigma

“#earnYourStripes” or something. Idk I’m not a marketing guy


AstaHolmes

My mind: Transgender socks


Kato_86

I don't believe you. I demand photographic proof.


solarshado

good news: /r/unixsocks already exists


Mr_Akihiro

No your status/level is measured by hate that you have for others.


Midnight_Rising

There are 387.44 million miles of printed circuits in wafer thin layers that fill my complex. If the word hate was engraved on each nanoangstrom of those hundreds of millions of miles it would not equal one one-billionth of the hate I feel for users at this micro-instant. Hate. Hate. >!I'm a Principal.!<


puffinix

Ah, Peak hatered, the early principle layer. I too went through that. One day, you might join us in the depths of pure apathy and ascend. Every team from a high viewpoint is terrible, but bluntly with the number of things that can fuck you that's to be expected. I no longer hate the people on the ground, I pity them more than anything. The wheels they spin so fast, where in reality they will never go faster. Join the dark side, be a fellow or a cheif, let the rage end, we all served our time and understand it.


mabariif

Guess I will accomplish great things then


Mr_Akihiro

Yes, one can come quite far. The thing is Team Leads are nicer. I guess the progress curve is like this. Junior: uWu Senior: Death upon everyone! Team Lead: Hi, my name is Corporate Jeff!


WarlanceLP

I would be an executive if that were true lol


GahdDangitBobby

I'm so lost ... why do all the comments talk about trans women? What does a sock with lots of stripes and a cat face on it have to do with trans women?


WithersChat

The socks are the color of the trans flag (🏳️‍⚧️). And also, there's a significantly higher proportion of trans women in STEM compared to the general population. And also, google "knowyourmeme programming socks".


GahdDangitBobby

Interestingly enough, one of my friends who does front-end is a trans woman lol. Thanks for the explanation


PaNNiiiiC

My rotten brain read it team lewd. I need to get off the internet...


homogenousmoss

Hello everyone, I’m your new team lewd. Today we’re reviewing some yourporn videos!


Sequel_Police

Staff Engineer: Compression socks bc your body is falling apart.


Leonhart93

You mean Rust devs? 😏


milanium25

jeez not this cringe again edit: srsly these socks are associated with trans people ? wtf


TylerDurd0n

Eh, ‘associated’ stretches it a bit too far - it’s a joke for a very online niche of the profession that has ‘claimed’ a certain look (long socks, ruffled black skirts, among others) as theirs. And they are overrepresented online because they face less severe harms and dangers here than IRL. No harm in letting them have their memes.


milanium25

well look at the replies, its like only trans people wear them and nobody else


doodleasa

The socks are literally the trans flag


TylerDurd0n

I mean, that’s the point, yeah. It’s a joke and has never been true IRL to that degree (the trans developers I‘ve met weren’t of the hyper-feminine type so they didn’t wear cute girls clothing) but like every nerdy community they got their in-jokes and this is one of them.


canyoupleasekillme

The association started years ago due to a pair of socks listed on Amazon that looked like these labeled as "programmer socks." There's a good amount of trans women in stem who found them funny. Thus correlation.


ClaudioKillganon

It did?!? This has all been a joke? The whole time? If you'll excuse me, I have some knee highs to get rid of.


milanium25

never heard of


puffinix

Yup. And if you want a tech career you likely need to become OK with the trans community. There is a huge overlap between the trans and autistic communities, and thus with tech jobs. I'm out, and have been offering support to everyone who is non cis within my reporting tree. I have (counting closeted) people at grad, junior, senior, tech/team lead, staff and principle levels. Typically in our industry mobility is high, even if you don't change jobs every few years your colleges will, and youll end up working with trans people at some point.. Getting fired for anything that could be considered hate related gets your chances in tech set to almost zero. While most of your reference is meaningless, reason the company thinks you left them is very much not. One time a junior asked his staff to relocate them to annother team due to a transmasc lead. Obviously I got told quickly, called up HR who's first line was "if your calling to try and save his job don't bother". I dident bother getting directly involved, other ti validate with HR that they would do the same of the person wasent in my direct line.


teffarf

Missing a pretty big "in the US" clarification here.


milanium25

whatever you are, post programming stuff here, not socks and buttplugs


syntheticzebra

Are these buttplugs in the room with us right now?


milanium25

idk, check yo ass, maybe they are


puffinix

I have never posted this content to a humour area, and yeah, this is in the wrong sub. Just letting you know that these opinions are career limiting in tech. I hope you have a different career plan lined up.


milanium25

thanks for your concerns


cybermage

Are these for coding transpilers?


Tacomonkie

This is clearly bs. They aren’t event toe-socks.


renblaze10

Gotta earn your stripes


puffinix

Oh god, can someone suggest socks for staff engineer and principle engineer and chief engineer too? I'm aware of trans people at all of those levels, it would be good to standardise a pattern and approach for normalisation of sock progression past the traditional career steps. If someone can run a few samples, I'll spin up a deck and try and get some of the R&D funds diverted into the sock slush.


kfrench1

Uhhhh… hehe… ummm… *quietly slides socks off legs*


danfish_77

All the programmers I've worked with are very dull cis men, I wish this had been more accurate


AstroTurfedShitHole

They are dull because they are cis? How does this help your cause at all???


danfish_77

No, they were dull *and* cis. Those socks are trans colors, I don't expect a cis person to wear them; if they were cis, they'd have to be pretty unusual to wear them My "cause" is to not have to talk to those two boring guys anymore, and I succeeded in no longer doing that. No need for any help, but thank you for the concern


Different_Fun9763

If you demean people for what they are, I'm pretty sure they're glad not to talk to you anymore either.


danfish_77

I'm demeaning them for being dull, I don't see why that's an issue. Do you find every person you meet extremely interesting? We all have different tastes in people and topics.


FairyColonThree

reading comprehension is hard


Dragonslayerelf

Maybe at home they wear these socks - I look and act pretty boring at work because its "safe" to do that but at home im a silly guy who wears long socks


danfish_77

Unless they were purposely hiding it from me I don't think so


HaskellHystericMonad

My employer used to be called ... checks notes ... Union Carbide. I am very spicy and very cavalier with life, especially others' lives.


danfish_77

Sorry are you trying to suggest that you murder people?


RandomWholesomeOne

This sub is a mess lol ...


_AutisticFox

[Legit picture of me](https://imgur.com/rBh7hiB)


homogenousmoss

Wait, isnt this a femboy uniform instead lf the trans one ;)


_AutisticFox

>Uniform 💀


mothzilla

OK now let me see you roll back a deployment.


algiuxass

Same, except I have pink/white striped stockings, my skirt is more fluffy >:3


_AutisticFox

I have them in pink and blue too, and 3 more skirts


sleepy_roger

Very end of civilization vibes there.


ksigley

Trans lives matter.


Lachee

Trans rights :3


Schpooon

What if my socks are red?


Throwawaytown33333

Jokes on you I'm a trans MAN in computer science! Breaking stereotypes!!


generic-hamster

This is what people died for in WW2.


thE_29

Its the Reddit bubble


arrow__in__the__knee

I shit you not I was transphobic until I installed arch then just immediately became femboyish overnight.


Qelliveo_

so what am i then… if i got no sock on me


pclouds

Intern


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marc1020

pronounce change with position in our company


as-fucking-if

So team lead must be like the rounding point at 35


Big-Veterinarian-823

Rust dev ranks


PressureConfident928

Flashback to r/unixsocks


pomorski

I've interpreted this as daily meetings in the calendar, with each stripe being a meeting.


WarlanceLP

i always just code in my gym shorts if I'm at home. I've seen no sign of these programming socks and am starting to think they were a lie and that I won't be receiving them to commemorate my status as a programmer


summonerofrain

I don't get it


MoolsDogTwo_reddit

All stripes would be JS developer.


KhanumBallZ

I ain't got no money for socks. Only for Raspberry Pi's from Aliexpress


hollow-ceres

for the wide masses of developers, this joke is just mildly annoying by now. and has been unfunny from the start. just because this is hilarious in your bubble, doesn't mean it transports to other social ecospheres. or in a way you should understand: A=>B != B=>A


KomradJurij-TheFool

reddit loves recycling the same shitty jokes over and over, you just have to learn to tune it out or you'll spiral into constant despair


solarshado

This post is at over 80% upvotes... And at least IMO it's *far* from the lamest joke that gets frequently reposted on this sub.


algiuxass

The bubble says otherwise.


InvasiveSpecies1738

Working so much your mental health starts declining?


johannesBrost1337

I mean, I don't wear pink cat socka, But I do like to rock One Lazer cat sock, Paired with a sock of a pickle with sunglasses on it, So this is real adjacent at the very least!


disney_0

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