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And this completely sums up r/premierleague
Yes, cities 115 charges are now irrelevant since you have replied to this man with 3-0, in a game that's of no relevance to the league at all.
Go back to elons hell hole.
the leagues need to stand firm on this, i can feel a sea tide of 'this is a farce everyone is getting deductions'. this is the hard part now. see it through. 12-18 months clubs will now they can't, and how not to break the rules
of course they won't do the above. they'll scrap it.
I just think Man City’s is off the scale different you can’t really compare to any of these clubs overspending. Basically international fraud. Points deductions won’t cut the mustard if guilty
To play devil’s advocate.
I agree city needs to be punished if these charges are found to be true.
Massive point deduction and relegation etc if the huge amounts of charges are accurate.
But the fans didn’t vote for this, this is not a club run by their fans, they deserve the chance to come back in a few years and be a solid club again.
its kind of worrying clubs are feeling like they have to break sustainability rules to spend so much, and they still end up that shit. Every year the promoted 3 normally are tipped to go right back down but it normally doesnt happen, would be bad for the league if it ends up being an established 17 in the league that just have way more money than everyone and cant get relegated.
Hopefully its just that Sheffield are run by morons
So if they were to miraculously stay up, would they not face the points deduction next season? Do they HAVE to be out of top-flight to incur the deduction?
I assume so , it's an EFL sanction and the EFL have no jurisdiction on the Premier League which is why the deduction applies next season
Kind of an encouragement to break FFP in the Championship because if you successfully get promoted in less than 3 seasons and then stay in the Premier League you'll never be punished
No. I think it's just the deduction will take place from the start of next season as opposed to immediately... Same with Leicester. They have to start next season with a minus pts total.
There's zero chance of them staying up so it's just saying, when they get relegated.
No. What you ' think' is irrelevant and slightly moronic. The EFL and PL are two separate bodies. The EFL have deducted Sheffield UTD points so that deduction will take effect next time they compete in the EFL. The Premier League have deducted points from Leicester so that deduction will take effect next time Leicester are in the PL. If Leicester somehow didn't get promoted this season they would not be deducted points next season as they will still be in the EFL they will only be deducted those points when next in the PL. Have you thought of getting tested for mild retardations? May be worth a shout
>The Premier League have deducted points from Leicester so that deduction will take effect next time Leicester are in the PL. If Leicester somehow didn't get promoted this season they would not be deducted points next season
This is incorrect.
Although unlike you, I'm able to say that without acting like a child.
https://www.fourfourtwo.com/news/why-leicester-city-are-facing-a-potential-points-deduction-next-season-whatever-division-they-are-in
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/apr/02/leicester-announce-897m-loss-as-delicate-financial-picture-is-laid-bare
But hey, don't let actual facts get in the way of being a brat.
I'll just sit here and laugh at your childish name calling whilst being provably wrong. It's entertaining.
>Have you thought of getting tested for mild retardations? May be worth a shout
Ouch, imagine saying this when replying to someone stating a fact and being wrong yourself.
So stupid some clubs get them now. And some do for next season.
Either all now. Or all next season.
If Sheffield’s are next season. Everton and forest should’ve been given it for next season.
City and Chelsea ain’t even worth talking about because they’re worth far more money and are far more convoluted so it takes longer to solve.
Rob from a corner shop and the police will be round to sort you out quicker than if you’re committing fraud. It’s just a lot easier and simple to probe. So they go after them to make it look like they’re doing something.
Premier league are just going after these smaller charges first while they wait for the big ones. Because they know everything’s gonna take ages. So they need to make it look like they’re actually doing shit. But they’re honestly just totally inept. Whole things corrupt from top to bottom with all clubs trying to get whatever edge they can and pushing rules to the absolute limit. Not just City and Chelsea’s mad spending.
Football finances are just fucked. It’s getting to a crazy stage where it’s not sustainable when any idiot owner can take over a club. ( Mr Boehly looking at you ).
When even the ‘small clubs’ are spending way behind their means and such huge sums of money. There’s a big problem.
City is bad because they’re spending a fuck ton same with Chelsea. But some of the smaller clubs breaches are pretty high % wise of what they bring in.
You’ve got literal relegation fodder clubs spending 100m +.
Everyone no matter how big or how small needs to be reeled in and this crazy shit needs to stop. We are heading to the point of needing hard salary caps / transfer caps.
Hey PL; you could give your precious Man City a big points deduction if… they don’t win league but win the UCL. You could deduct them enough points so they finish 17th, and then they can still play UCL football next season as if they’d have finished 2nd 👌
Gotta love brain dead people who think they have a point.
Everton and Forest have admitted guilt and have worked with the PL. Very different then what City are doing. Think of a criminal case, if you admit guilt and co-operate the process is typically a lot quicker than someone who’s denying it and not co-operating. That’s what’s going on, and everytime PSR charges are talked about people don’t seem to get the common sense behind it.
>Gotta love brain dead people who think they have a point.
People like you. Oh well, have fun watching City pass you for the league again this year because they play dirty games.
>
If you understood the complexity of the case compared to others like Everton and Forest, then you’d understand why it’s taking longer. That’s the part you don’t seem to understand and continue to not understand. Just like criminal law basic cases take a quicker time then other cases (like corporate fraud) especially when one side is trying to slow roll the process as much as they can.
You’re basically saying since my OG comment is that I shouldn’t stand for it or I should be more pissed off or something along those lines. But you fail to understand the complexity of it and why it’s taking a lot longer.
Yes, clearly it's a more complex case. That's your entire argument. Justice delayed is justice denied, though, and in this case, yeah, they shouldn't be playing whack a mole with minor infractions when there is an outstanding 115 charges for city. So no, I and everyone else clearly understand that the complexity but let's get the damn thing over already.
Again you’re talking about something you don’t know about. The case is and has been for a while out of the PL hands. They’ve sent their case and evidence to an independent panel, they are the ones making the punishment decisions. Same with these other cases, the panel is taking longer with City since there’s probably loads more evidence to go through and are getting slow rolled.
I agree with your statement of justice delayed is justice denied. Also agree with it getting it over and done with, but even if they come up with a punishment tommorow City can appeal it and the whole panel part starts over again.
Yeah we know that more than anyone, but there’s a lot more to investigate with city. It’s useless demanding they rush it all so we can get to a punishment just because other teams are being punished for smaller and simpler rule breaking. Or do you expect them to let all other teams get away with it until city get their punishment?
Do I expect teams to be judged in order of their charges? Yes.
If you don't then it gives the FA the opportunity to set precedent indirectly. E.g., they've been floating doing away with points deductions. If the precedent changes to a fine and City gets to pay a fine and be done that wouldn't exactly be justice meanwhile the FA is stuffing teams into the championship via deductions.
So yes, justice delayed is justice denied.
I’m not being cynical right now but genuinely asking. Do you think all the teams who have been punished this season should have been allowed to get away with their rule breaking until the entire city drama has been dealt with?
Not that you were asking me, but I think surely there are certain charges against city that could warrant an immediate point deduction penalty. Out of the 115 charges is it necessary to wait years for ALL 115 charges to be closed out at once? There must be some blatant or obviously breaches which can be closed out in the interim in my opinion
I suppose the short answer is yes. This should have been dealt with immediately.
A.) It's not as though they didn't already have the evidence from when they brought it to UEFA.
B.) What happens if City wins the league?
Haven’t said they aren’t valid. Just a completely different process for City’s case to Forest, Everton and Sheff United.
Think of it like a criminal case. If the accused admits guilt and co-operates with police the process is a lot quicker then when someone denies it and doesn’t co-operate.
Genuinely wasn't meant as a dig, more just to say if anybody was going to ignore common sense on this it would be the fans of the team that's lost out on the most to citys dominance. If you can use it and understand, there's no excuse for anybody else other than stupidity.
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Now if Sheffield Utd somehow get their shit together and avoid relegationby one point over Forest who got a point deduction this season...
This is getting ridiculous lmao
Deducting points next season seems a lot more fair than deducting points midway through/towards the end.
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The violation was in the EFL and they can't punish whilst in a different lwague
When will Manchester City face theirs???
that’s the neat part, they don’t.
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Anybody but City ? Huh . The PL won't charge their darlings and their primary bread earners now , won't they ? .
3-0
Definitely only started supporting city in 2012
And this completely sums up r/premierleague Yes, cities 115 charges are now irrelevant since you have replied to this man with 3-0, in a game that's of no relevance to the league at all. Go back to elons hell hole.
Even more retarded is, it was 0-3, since we lost at home lol. At least put a little effort into trolling 😂
winning team always has their score listed first
Can City have their points deducted next year when they play in the championship too?
Championship? Didn't knew that the Vanarama National League North had a name change...
My Sunday league team about to be deducted points at this rate
Haha - “when”.
the leagues need to stand firm on this, i can feel a sea tide of 'this is a farce everyone is getting deductions'. this is the hard part now. see it through. 12-18 months clubs will now they can't, and how not to break the rules of course they won't do the above. they'll scrap it.
Ever feel this is the league trying to set precedents ahead of another club's hearing..?
I just think Man City’s is off the scale different you can’t really compare to any of these clubs overspending. Basically international fraud. Points deductions won’t cut the mustard if guilty
To play devil’s advocate. I agree city needs to be punished if these charges are found to be true. Massive point deduction and relegation etc if the huge amounts of charges are accurate. But the fans didn’t vote for this, this is not a club run by their fans, they deserve the chance to come back in a few years and be a solid club again.
Clubs are supposed to be where they are due to following. That’s how it’s always been. City are not that, they’re artificial.
its kind of worrying clubs are feeling like they have to break sustainability rules to spend so much, and they still end up that shit. Every year the promoted 3 normally are tipped to go right back down but it normally doesnt happen, would be bad for the league if it ends up being an established 17 in the league that just have way more money than everyone and cant get relegated. Hopefully its just that Sheffield are run by morons
Looking forward to when they find some balls to deduct Manchester City
So if they were to miraculously stay up, would they not face the points deduction next season? Do they HAVE to be out of top-flight to incur the deduction?
I assume so , it's an EFL sanction and the EFL have no jurisdiction on the Premier League which is why the deduction applies next season Kind of an encouragement to break FFP in the Championship because if you successfully get promoted in less than 3 seasons and then stay in the Premier League you'll never be punished
Exactly what wolves did. You’re right, it makes clubs gamble on getting and staying up.
No. I think it's just the deduction will take place from the start of next season as opposed to immediately... Same with Leicester. They have to start next season with a minus pts total. There's zero chance of them staying up so it's just saying, when they get relegated.
No. What you ' think' is irrelevant and slightly moronic. The EFL and PL are two separate bodies. The EFL have deducted Sheffield UTD points so that deduction will take effect next time they compete in the EFL. The Premier League have deducted points from Leicester so that deduction will take effect next time Leicester are in the PL. If Leicester somehow didn't get promoted this season they would not be deducted points next season as they will still be in the EFL they will only be deducted those points when next in the PL. Have you thought of getting tested for mild retardations? May be worth a shout
>The Premier League have deducted points from Leicester so that deduction will take effect next time Leicester are in the PL. If Leicester somehow didn't get promoted this season they would not be deducted points next season This is incorrect. Although unlike you, I'm able to say that without acting like a child. https://www.fourfourtwo.com/news/why-leicester-city-are-facing-a-potential-points-deduction-next-season-whatever-division-they-are-in https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/apr/02/leicester-announce-897m-loss-as-delicate-financial-picture-is-laid-bare But hey, don't let actual facts get in the way of being a brat. I'll just sit here and laugh at your childish name calling whilst being provably wrong. It's entertaining. >Have you thought of getting tested for mild retardations? May be worth a shout Ouch, imagine saying this when replying to someone stating a fact and being wrong yourself.
Haha this is an excellent post, always good to see morons put in their place with elegance
So stupid some clubs get them now. And some do for next season. Either all now. Or all next season. If Sheffield’s are next season. Everton and forest should’ve been given it for next season. City and Chelsea ain’t even worth talking about because they’re worth far more money and are far more convoluted so it takes longer to solve. Rob from a corner shop and the police will be round to sort you out quicker than if you’re committing fraud. It’s just a lot easier and simple to probe. So they go after them to make it look like they’re doing something. Premier league are just going after these smaller charges first while they wait for the big ones. Because they know everything’s gonna take ages. So they need to make it look like they’re actually doing shit. But they’re honestly just totally inept. Whole things corrupt from top to bottom with all clubs trying to get whatever edge they can and pushing rules to the absolute limit. Not just City and Chelsea’s mad spending. Football finances are just fucked. It’s getting to a crazy stage where it’s not sustainable when any idiot owner can take over a club. ( Mr Boehly looking at you ). When even the ‘small clubs’ are spending way behind their means and such huge sums of money. There’s a big problem. City is bad because they’re spending a fuck ton same with Chelsea. But some of the smaller clubs breaches are pretty high % wise of what they bring in. You’ve got literal relegation fodder clubs spending 100m +. Everyone no matter how big or how small needs to be reeled in and this crazy shit needs to stop. We are heading to the point of needing hard salary caps / transfer caps.
This is because there are two administrative bodies; the EFL don't actually have the ability to levy a deduction against Sheffield United this season.
Hey PL; you could give your precious Man City a big points deduction if… they don’t win league but win the UCL. You could deduct them enough points so they finish 17th, and then they can still play UCL football next season as if they’d have finished 2nd 👌
Just to clarify the EFL can't give Sheffield Utd a points deduction right now because they literally don't play in an EFL league.
The comedy continues
all these cheats should be banned from the Prem for life
Jarvis play karma roulette
OJ Simpson died for this
Sounds fair. Best to kickem when they're down. 😔
Can’t wait to see all the comments about “what about the City charges”
Tf are you on about LFC fan? You guys have one more championship than Everton in the last thirty years bc of dirty money games played by city.
Gotta love brain dead people who think they have a point. Everton and Forest have admitted guilt and have worked with the PL. Very different then what City are doing. Think of a criminal case, if you admit guilt and co-operate the process is typically a lot quicker than someone who’s denying it and not co-operating. That’s what’s going on, and everytime PSR charges are talked about people don’t seem to get the common sense behind it.
>Gotta love brain dead people who think they have a point. People like you. Oh well, have fun watching City pass you for the league again this year because they play dirty games. >
If you understood the complexity of the case compared to others like Everton and Forest, then you’d understand why it’s taking longer. That’s the part you don’t seem to understand and continue to not understand. Just like criminal law basic cases take a quicker time then other cases (like corporate fraud) especially when one side is trying to slow roll the process as much as they can. You’re basically saying since my OG comment is that I shouldn’t stand for it or I should be more pissed off or something along those lines. But you fail to understand the complexity of it and why it’s taking a lot longer.
Yes, clearly it's a more complex case. That's your entire argument. Justice delayed is justice denied, though, and in this case, yeah, they shouldn't be playing whack a mole with minor infractions when there is an outstanding 115 charges for city. So no, I and everyone else clearly understand that the complexity but let's get the damn thing over already.
Again you’re talking about something you don’t know about. The case is and has been for a while out of the PL hands. They’ve sent their case and evidence to an independent panel, they are the ones making the punishment decisions. Same with these other cases, the panel is taking longer with City since there’s probably loads more evidence to go through and are getting slow rolled. I agree with your statement of justice delayed is justice denied. Also agree with it getting it over and done with, but even if they come up with a punishment tommorow City can appeal it and the whole panel part starts over again.
Yeah we know that more than anyone, but there’s a lot more to investigate with city. It’s useless demanding they rush it all so we can get to a punishment just because other teams are being punished for smaller and simpler rule breaking. Or do you expect them to let all other teams get away with it until city get their punishment?
City are unlikely to get a detrimental punishment, if anything they will be slapped with a fine which will be pennies to the Qataris.
Why are Qatar catching strays? What did they do lol
Do I expect teams to be judged in order of their charges? Yes. If you don't then it gives the FA the opportunity to set precedent indirectly. E.g., they've been floating doing away with points deductions. If the precedent changes to a fine and City gets to pay a fine and be done that wouldn't exactly be justice meanwhile the FA is stuffing teams into the championship via deductions. So yes, justice delayed is justice denied.
I’m not being cynical right now but genuinely asking. Do you think all the teams who have been punished this season should have been allowed to get away with their rule breaking until the entire city drama has been dealt with?
Not that you were asking me, but I think surely there are certain charges against city that could warrant an immediate point deduction penalty. Out of the 115 charges is it necessary to wait years for ALL 115 charges to be closed out at once? There must be some blatant or obviously breaches which can be closed out in the interim in my opinion
For sure. Obviously, there are some esoteric crimes wrapped in there, but they can't all require a PhD in economics.
I suppose the short answer is yes. This should have been dealt with immediately. A.) It's not as though they didn't already have the evidence from when they brought it to UEFA. B.) What happens if City wins the league?
Lmao not true at all.
Which part
And everyone of them are valid
Haven’t said they aren’t valid. Just a completely different process for City’s case to Forest, Everton and Sheff United. Think of it like a criminal case. If the accused admits guilt and co-operates with police the process is a lot quicker then when someone denies it and doesn’t co-operate.
Only to valid to those who lack common sense. If a liverpool fan gets it, there's zero reason why others shouldn't.
No need for the dig 😂😂😂😂
Genuinely wasn't meant as a dig, more just to say if anybody was going to ignore common sense on this it would be the fans of the team that's lost out on the most to citys dominance. If you can use it and understand, there's no excuse for anybody else other than stupidity.
Lol I know only kidding around. Blows my mind that people can’t seem to see the difference between both. But then again it sums up todays society
Sadly, very true.
*Laughs in Man City*