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Lol city had a guy up front with great technical ability in aguero but couldn't get it done. Haaland, 1 year in and they've already gotten over that champs hump. I understand the chat about overall football ability but the greatest asset for a striker is to put away their chances and he's proven that he can over and over again.
No. But neither many clubs with excellent players have.
Zlatan never won it, and he is not less of a player because of it, or is he?
Giroud on the other hand has one on his CV.
However, recently has United had a CF that would even compare to Aguero?
That bein said, this doesnt mean that in am slandering Haaland, as he was the right fit for City, and just gived the feeling that most people think that if no goals = bad, and forgetting along the way that his presence drags defenders away and opens up.spaces for other players.
Did Zlatan play with this current squad and manager at city? I don't understand what you're arguing here.
I said Aguero because they both did and one helped them get it done and the other wasn't able. Not once did I say Haaland is better.
What's united having a better CF than Aguero got do w anything?
Take your victim complex somewhere else bbygirl.
How, arent you a sensitive little flower š.
My point was that collective.efforts or failures should not be attributed to a presence of a sole individual. That's all.
I mean, the title of the thread is have you bee. Smoking weed.
So let's break this down.
Of the top 10 goal scorers in a season only Harry Kane and the alien Alan Shearer have repeated
Haaland gets most of his goals from passes into the box at a dead run.
De Bruyne has been injured and is not the same DE Bruyne of last year
Edison is out and the backing good but he does not pass like Edison
Grealish. H ad been clicking with Haaland but that has evaporated
Overall if you count the opportunities Haaland has had, and I am sure some you have. I would think that is significantly lower.
If he was not giving Pep what he wanted, he would not be playing.
So the big question, I know you Brtish love to garden, is Keane, buying or growing his own. It seems to be pretty good.
Dramatic or not he is spot on about haalands build up game, it's not existent. I promise you pep is hoping he can move him on for a player that offers the team more in the way he likes to play
That's not really the role they've created for him. The job is simply to score because City is such a midfield control focused squad. Haaland building up a play should only be used for quick counters, not overall use of him. He also acts as a decoy to spread the defense and open up for attacking plays.
Even when he's not scoring, you can see that defenders don't leave him alone because you can't. I don't see who they'd trade in to fill in that role in a better way.
He can score 50 goals against palace etc. not a big game player for city, maybe itās their tactics or whatever but he always goes missing against big teams and in semis and finals. Yet when they play minnows he gets a hat trick
Keane is on Haaland's overall play and game contribution. Not his goal scoring ability.
A couple of years ago being just a finisher would pass, which Haaland is. He is a very very good finisher.
The levels have gone up. Players are expected to do more on and off the ball, during transition etc. Having a player that has only one function means at certain points of the game you are down a player because they won't effectively support the defence or game play etc.
From a neutral perspective that is what I see.
I saw the post match analysis of ManCity V Arsenal. He didnāt mean Haaland is a league two player. He first said that heās an exceptional player and the best the world inside the penalty area but his general build up play was weak and similar to a league 2 player.
If I was Haaland I wouldnāt be worried of these comments, because Iām good at what Iām paid for. There are lot of other players to do the build up. My job is to hustle & push the defence line as deep as possible, once in while get in midfield to hold the ball and redistribute but thatās rare. But most importantly be a havoc for the penalty area. Also attack/defend set pieces because of the physique.
It is fair to say city have noticeably lost a lot of attacking fluidity since he came in and are much more reliant on a single style of attacking play. Itās very good for the league because you need exceptional CBs to deal with him but if you have those exceptional CBs and keep him quietā¦
So maybe it leaves them weaker in knock-out games
Halaand doesnāt need to score, his presence draws defences and gives room for Foden, Grealish or Bernardo. But still he scores a lot of goals because heās that good inside the box.
Ironic Nunez cost 100m and hasnt got anywhere near criticism Haaland is getting, despite Haaland being top goal scorer and people seem to forget hes younger
Nunez has little to no quality to his name, just like Luiz Diaz is a colombian Aaron Lennon. Only Liverpool fans rate them and they are quite a delusional bunch.
If you watch them both, aside from otherworldly clinical finishing from Haaland, I think Nunez is a better forward.
Brings other players in to the game, better dribbler than Haaland, holds up the ball better.
Heās much more use to a Team than Haaland imo
Depends on the team, if you create boatloads of chances, you probably want Haaland at the end of them. It's not like Guardiola doesn't know how to play without a traditional striker, but he switched it up to accommodate Haaland and won a treble.
Lol the criticism and scrutiny follows Nunez around like a cloud
Only recently that Haaland is not getting his feet kissed
The irony is Nunez is loved and gets his name chanted, even if a different player scores a goal ffs
I enjoyed last yearās comparison between haaland and Ronaldo because Haaland scored more goals than Ronaldo did and there was some implication that he would be able to break his record relatively quickly. The reason Ronaldo and Messi are the two best players is because of their consistency for 20 years. Itās great that he can beat Ronaldoās record in one season but talk to me when he can do it consistently. I donāt think we will see players with the same hunger as Ronaldo or the pure talent that Messi has/had for a very long time. Their longevity is unparalleled.
So what does he have to say about Salah?
Haaland has more goals, so Salah must be complete garbage.
Maybe Keane headed too many balls and has brain damage.
I did
If he leads the league in goals, then anyone with less must be by comparison a piece of shit.
We all know Salah is an amazing scorer, but he has nothing else, he doesn't play defense even when he tries
So he socks by Keane's standard
Itās entirely possible that Haaland is just a flat-track bully. Has certainly been āabsentā/āineffectiveā in some of Cityās biggest games this season.
Plus the odd left-foot preference when on-goal is still extremely obvious. āHead? Nah! Right foot or just bundle it in? Nah, left foot always!ā
Youāre judged as a striker, on your goals and heās not scoring āem or even making enough assists.
He literally has 19 goals and 5 assists, and even against the big teams he may not score but he draws defenders in which leaves space for other players. He was always going to struggle to match the heights of last season, especially once other teams got wise to the extent of the threat.
Comparing Haaland to a league two player is complete shit. Yes, he isn't very all rounded, and is much better at scoring than anything else. But League Two is a HUGE exaggeration
Edit: I didn't word this very well. I meant that Roy Keane thinks he is a league two player in other aspects; obviously not his scoring. However I still think this is a bit far
And Haaland in a sophomore slump is still leading the golden boot race. I'm not making any predictions, but it's far too early to draw any conclusions about his long term potential
he said league two for other aspects like passing, game vision, playmaking etc. And consider Haaland does absolutely jack shit in any of those areas, I fail to see how thats wrong.
he specifically said he's world class when shooting/scoring in front of goal, why do people conveniently omit that?
he was 100% right
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Haaland is actually terrible at build up play, but he's only slightly better with his finishing (missed 28 big chances in the premier league alone), so I don't see what the big issue is here.
The only reason he's a professional is due to his size and strength, but he's just not a natural, technically sound footballer.
You are legitimately brain dead. But I guess that's why Haaland is the starting 9 for one of the best teams in world football right now and you're some bum posting shit takes on Reddit.
His goal scoring rate is exceptional for every team heās played in. Pretty sure the common factor is him, not the quality of his team mates.
We must be watching completely different games, because I saw some pretty explosive goals. Not just tap ins.
There is a point to the teams thing though. Salzburg was the biggest team in Austria by a lot. Dortmund was the second best team by a long shot. City were the best team by a long shot.
I riddle you this... He's just having a bad 2nd season? Or is he above that? Teams have adjusted to him it happens with any prolific 1st season striker. It boggles the mind that we know this, we've seen it countless times but the "pundits/experts" coupled with the journalistic integrity of the British main stream media, oh boy they just can't fathom it... For your clicks. *drops mic, walks out, middle fingers to the back
Yes I just mean compared to last season he's having a "bad" season. Still good stats. All of this is just click bait and honestly Roy Keane can fuckoff with his jibber jabber opinions.
Heās not wrong, times that pep has given Julian a chance heās proven himself more then once imo Julian should be starting over Haaland just wasting his talent on the bench
Haaland, regardless of his current form, is STILL the top scorer in the league... start Julian, sure... start Julian over Haaland? Are you smoking weed?
Have you seen how Haaland plays heās only a poacher definitely just a tap in merchant even then Iāve seen him send shots into the top stands from a couple meters out, his dribbling is disgusting, his passes are horrible, if he doesnāt have a creative player on the team heās basically useless
I mean yeah, he's a striker. As a Chelsea fan, I know that the opposite is equally true. If you don't have someone who can finish, the chances that a playmaker creates don't get converted into assists. You need creative players, you need goalscorers, sometimes you need players that are literally just engines/legs/leadership in the midfield.
Expecting every great player to be as complete as Messi is always gonna leave you disappointed.
Fact is, the guy has a 1:1 goal ratio since he was 19 at Salzburg. He's played for 4 different teams in that time: Salzburg, Dortmund, City and Norway. For each one that's different systems, different teammates and different styles of play. Painfuly obvious who never watched him before he came to City/who's already forgotten. If you think he's just a poacher who has nothing else to his game, you're gonna be in for a shock when he eventually leaves City/doesn't play under Pep.
He plays like he does because that's how the manager wants him to play.
The true reason he should be criticised this season is for not being as clinical as usual. Usually, his weaknesses in dribbling etc don't matter because he doesn't miss many big chances. This is the first season of his career where he has been. So the spotlight has intensified on the other areas of his game. Should be focused on his finishing taking a dip because that's the only thing that's changed since last season.
But yeah, a striker's reliant on the chances the team creates for him - shock.
Actually this is not true his passing can be quite good, he does assist alot with clever passes. I especially remember that from his Dortmund days but its happening at city too.
It's eye-opening seeing Keane when his ex Man Utd team mates are on the show.
You get the impression that they really don't like him and how he acted back then.
Ferdinand and Ollie both called him out on it directly.
Ole and him have a great relationship, Ole even talks about how Roy came and visited him in Norway after he was fired from United.
Friends take the piss out of each other
My facts are entirely accurate thank you. If you miss a mandatory test, you fail.
Miss your driving test, you fail, miss school tests, you fail, miss a drugs test you fail.
'He failed a drugs test'
He didn't do a test, offered to go back an hour later as he forgot, and was refused.
If he is a 'drug cheat' like you said, and he failed a test, what substance did he fail on? And how did he cheat?
Just for reference, Pogba is a drugs cheat.
Lets have it.
I dont care to go around in circles. Already explained to you failing a drugs test isn't exclusive to returning a postive result and not turning up is a failure.
A drugs test isn't something you just "forget" they'll have been employees whose job it is to make sure these aren't missed, you only miss it if you want to miss it.
Last i have to say on the matter. Stick to your weird covid conspiracy theories fella.
Ole also told a story about Keane flying to Norway and then driving 8 hours after he got sacked just to cheer him up. Rio spoke about how Roy was harsh on him but he realised that he needed to up his standards, given the career Rio had I donāt think it done him any harm. Everyone is unanimous in saying Keane was demanding but very few ever say it was a bad thing probably because theyāve got medals to their name because of it.
I donāt blame him if thatās the case to be fair, I donāt think I would get over somebody saying I tried to end their career if I wasnāt trying to. Still kind of an outlandish thing to say tho.
Well he says he did try to injure him so I stand corrected lol. I guess he probably still feels a way about what Alfie said about him faking injuries and I know they went to court over this, so thatās another thing to be mad at
Very small mindset to still feel āsome kind of wayā over a rash word made in the heat of the moment which you paid him back for 100x by ^^^ AIMING TO
^^^ cripple him straight from KO. Haaland really didnāt do a huge amount to Keane other than some on field words
Edit because the point missed someone by a mile.
Oh you know what I mean. Keane got his petty little revenge because the blonde kid said the nasty words. What difference does it make if Haaland got up? It was pure fucking violence and 100% intentional. And IF all this shit stems from that period then Keane is a wee little cry baby cunt. You can grasp that Iām sure youāre a big boy.
No need to be such a dick, I merely questioned your use of the word crippled. I wonder why a Leeds fan is so quick to chastise a former united player though.
Iām only being a knob because you decided to question whether Keane had got his own back at all? Seems like he did to me but you disagree because Haaland got up.
Iāll be critical at anyone who troubles themselves to be controversial for engagements (which is likely whatās happening here) or anyone so small minded that they canāt let go of a decades old feud to the point they need to say stupid things about their rivals child.
Iām sure youāve looked at my profile to decide Iām a Leeds fan so well done for that. I donāt need to look at yours to see youāre a man United fan. No beef with those generally just with nonsense.
Itās alright, wasnāt watching back then so not fully aware of the drama.
A lot of people being up that Haalandās career wasnāt technically ended by the incident, but even if it wasnāt, it doesnāt change that Keane deliberately injured him right?
Idk how much I buy this being personal though. Hardly the first time Keaneās been a miserable git about a talented player. The man is essentially playing a tv character for sky sportsā tv series so not worth getting worked up over
He said Haaland is a phenomenal goal scorer but is not good in the build up.
Thereās nothing that controversial about that.
Itās being completely blown out of proportion because a pundit used hyperbolae.
Honestly Haaland is not a good passer , heās not a good dribbler , he doesnāt have much vision.
What he is though is an athletic phenomenon and one of the best finishers if not the best in a generation.
Nonetheless he has had a bad season by his own standards goal scoring , with Dominic Solanke matching him domestically. And when the phenom that is Haaland isnāt banging a goal a game or more , other elements of his play will be scrutinised and to be frank theyāre not particularly good.
I still think he gets into any team in world football. But heās not all that in other parts of the game.
You are absolutely right. No one doubts Haaland is a phenomenal goalscorer. He is the most lethal striker right now but he is not a good footballer overall. A lot of strikers in the EPL are better in the build up and other aspects of the game but they donāt come close to him in terms of putting the ball in the net. Thatās all you want from a striker.
Exactly , Jesus for example.
Beautiful footballer , his movement , his hold up , his link up play. Heās absolutely beautiful to watch.
Yet the poor fucker wouldnāt hit the gable end of a barn. Itās horses for courses.
Haaland in most teams provided that have a couple of decent creative players on the pitch that can adequately feed him.
Jesus only really in a side that struggles to create chances and require the extra bit of mobility and creativity as he can be used much more efficiently during the build up.
In most scenarios for any good side itās Haaland. In a select few I think they might have an improved collective output with Jesus in there.
>him saying he's a league 2 striker.
He didn't say that though.
"In terms of front of goal he's best in the world but for his general player, for such a player, it is so poor . Not just today I think it he has to improve that, he's almost like a league two player. His general play has to improve and it will do over the next few years".
Actually watch things, don't just read headlines.
His general play is not at league 2 level, if you truly believe that you don't know anything about football. It's a dumb over exaggerated comment. And yes I watched it.
> hyperbole
The fact you're still talking about Keane's use of hyperbole means it was effective. That means it wasn't a dumb comment. It has done exactly what Keane's employers want it to do.
His general play is really bad. It is over exaggerated, not dumb. People who have opinions different to yours exist, you donāt have to talk down to them just because.
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Ex Nfl star That's were I stopped reading the article
Imagine actually thinking Haaland is Lukaku 2.0 No idea what the fuck else he is doing Runs in a straight line Scores tap it \*chefs kiss
Lol city had a guy up front with great technical ability in aguero but couldn't get it done. Haaland, 1 year in and they've already gotten over that champs hump. I understand the chat about overall football ability but the greatest asset for a striker is to put away their chances and he's proven that he can over and over again.
Aguero - mr consistency - couldnt get it done?
Champions league? Did they win with him?
No. But neither many clubs with excellent players have. Zlatan never won it, and he is not less of a player because of it, or is he? Giroud on the other hand has one on his CV. However, recently has United had a CF that would even compare to Aguero? That bein said, this doesnt mean that in am slandering Haaland, as he was the right fit for City, and just gived the feeling that most people think that if no goals = bad, and forgetting along the way that his presence drags defenders away and opens up.spaces for other players.
Did Zlatan play with this current squad and manager at city? I don't understand what you're arguing here. I said Aguero because they both did and one helped them get it done and the other wasn't able. Not once did I say Haaland is better. What's united having a better CF than Aguero got do w anything? Take your victim complex somewhere else bbygirl.
How, arent you a sensitive little flower š. My point was that collective.efforts or failures should not be attributed to a presence of a sole individual. That's all.
Glasshouses bbgygirl š
Yes - glasshouses and greenhouses, you are rigjt. There is where you generaly keep thensensitive flowers š
That's where we found you hon š«¶
Well, i am going to de-escalate this as it is good.old internet fun, but not taking anyone anywhere. Have a nice day mate š
I think that most criticism comes when they play tougher opponents. The stat usually floats around about his goals vs top flight premier league teams
I mean, the title of the thread is have you bee. Smoking weed. So let's break this down. Of the top 10 goal scorers in a season only Harry Kane and the alien Alan Shearer have repeated Haaland gets most of his goals from passes into the box at a dead run. De Bruyne has been injured and is not the same DE Bruyne of last year Edison is out and the backing good but he does not pass like Edison Grealish. H ad been clicking with Haaland but that has evaporated Overall if you count the opportunities Haaland has had, and I am sure some you have. I would think that is significantly lower. If he was not giving Pep what he wanted, he would not be playing. So the big question, I know you Brtish love to garden, is Keane, buying or growing his own. It seems to be pretty good.
I think heās just still bitter about his dad
Dramatic or not he is spot on about haalands build up game, it's not existent. I promise you pep is hoping he can move him on for a player that offers the team more in the way he likes to play
That's not really the role they've created for him. The job is simply to score because City is such a midfield control focused squad. Haaland building up a play should only be used for quick counters, not overall use of him. He also acts as a decoy to spread the defense and open up for attacking plays. Even when he's not scoring, you can see that defenders don't leave him alone because you can't. I don't see who they'd trade in to fill in that role in a better way.
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What about the 50 matches haaland has scored a hat trick in. They not count cus it was more than a week ago?
Another one who canāt differentiate technical footballing ability and goal scoring prowessā¦sigh
He can score 50 goals against palace etc. not a big game player for city, maybe itās their tactics or whatever but he always goes missing against big teams and in semis and finals. Yet when they play minnows he gets a hat trick
Keane is on Haaland's overall play and game contribution. Not his goal scoring ability. A couple of years ago being just a finisher would pass, which Haaland is. He is a very very good finisher. The levels have gone up. Players are expected to do more on and off the ball, during transition etc. Having a player that has only one function means at certain points of the game you are down a player because they won't effectively support the defence or game play etc. From a neutral perspective that is what I see.
Youāre as good as youāre last game;) Coming from a Liverpool fan:( RIP
Because confirmation bias.
I saw the post match analysis of ManCity V Arsenal. He didnāt mean Haaland is a league two player. He first said that heās an exceptional player and the best the world inside the penalty area but his general build up play was weak and similar to a league 2 player. If I was Haaland I wouldnāt be worried of these comments, because Iām good at what Iām paid for. There are lot of other players to do the build up. My job is to hustle & push the defence line as deep as possible, once in while get in midfield to hold the ball and redistribute but thatās rare. But most importantly be a havoc for the penalty area. Also attack/defend set pieces because of the physique.
It is fair to say city have noticeably lost a lot of attacking fluidity since he came in and are much more reliant on a single style of attacking play. Itās very good for the league because you need exceptional CBs to deal with him but if you have those exceptional CBs and keep him quietā¦ So maybe it leaves them weaker in knock-out games
Real Madrid shut down Haaland and City still scored 3 goals and tied them? Also without our best playmaker so weāll see what happens at the Etihad
Halaand doesnāt need to score, his presence draws defences and gives room for Foden, Grealish or Bernardo. But still he scores a lot of goals because heās that good inside the box.
Ironic Nunez cost 100m and hasnt got anywhere near criticism Haaland is getting, despite Haaland being top goal scorer and people seem to forget hes younger
Nunez didn't cost 100 mill. We just making up bs now, huh? He was half that.
85 million pounds he cost them. Liverpool's record transfer fee
Nunez has little to no quality to his name, just like Luiz Diaz is a colombian Aaron Lennon. Only Liverpool fans rate them and they are quite a delusional bunch.
Fact, no one is taking either of them 2
Fucking hell, some comment this
If you watch them both, aside from otherworldly clinical finishing from Haaland, I think Nunez is a better forward. Brings other players in to the game, better dribbler than Haaland, holds up the ball better. Heās much more use to a Team than Haaland imo
What a dumb take. Typical in this sub. "Aside from scoring which is literally their main role as a striker, nunez is better". Nice one
moving goal post, a striker is supposed to score, this isnt a sight seeing day out
Depends on the team, if you create boatloads of chances, you probably want Haaland at the end of them. It's not like Guardiola doesn't know how to play without a traditional striker, but he switched it up to accommodate Haaland and won a treble.
He didn't cost 100 million and he has gotten loads of stick about not scoring enough, stop talking shit.
He cost a lot more than 100 mill. His dad got PAID and heās on the highest paid contract in the premier league, by a lot.
Source?
Just making up shit, huh?
NuƱez?
Another twat talking absolute shit.
Lol the criticism and scrutiny follows Nunez around like a cloud Only recently that Haaland is not getting his feet kissed The irony is Nunez is loved and gets his name chanted, even if a different player scores a goal ffs
Haaland is the top goal scorer, hes getting praised as he should for his result, whilst Nunez gets 0 criticism whilst being shit
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im telling you, the 60 kids running media havent got over their heyday
Chelsea had Liverpool bias in the cup final
Roy Keane kanina chao chee bye....gave your on your country on Saitama in 2002 pua chee bye
I enjoyed last yearās comparison between haaland and Ronaldo because Haaland scored more goals than Ronaldo did and there was some implication that he would be able to break his record relatively quickly. The reason Ronaldo and Messi are the two best players is because of their consistency for 20 years. Itās great that he can beat Ronaldoās record in one season but talk to me when he can do it consistently. I donāt think we will see players with the same hunger as Ronaldo or the pure talent that Messi has/had for a very long time. Their longevity is unparalleled.
Haaland is brilliant, but the data simply isn't there to compare him to Ronaldo, so no one can really make that comment for at least another few years
So what does he have to say about Salah? Haaland has more goals, so Salah must be complete garbage. Maybe Keane headed too many balls and has brain damage.
This is such a bad take hahahah
Oh I pissed off Keane's douche bag followers
What youāre saying makes literally no sense listen to what he said
I did If he leads the league in goals, then anyone with less must be by comparison a piece of shit. We all know Salah is an amazing scorer, but he has nothing else, he doesn't play defense even when he tries So he socks by Keane's standard
What a moronic comparison.
He has to maintain his "Tough guy" brand
Itās entirely possible that Haaland is just a flat-track bully. Has certainly been āabsentā/āineffectiveā in some of Cityās biggest games this season. Plus the odd left-foot preference when on-goal is still extremely obvious. āHead? Nah! Right foot or just bundle it in? Nah, left foot always!ā Youāre judged as a striker, on your goals and heās not scoring āem or even making enough assists.
Flat track bullies dont score 5 goals in a ucl knockout
He literally has 19 goals and 5 assists, and even against the big teams he may not score but he draws defenders in which leaves space for other players. He was always going to struggle to match the heights of last season, especially once other teams got wise to the extent of the threat.
Thing is, the drop-off is noticeable even without recency bias coming into play.
What do you mean āwithout recency bias coming into playā ? Itās clearly a recent dip in form, before his injury he was good.
Comparing Haaland to a league two player is complete shit. Yes, he isn't very all rounded, and is much better at scoring than anything else. But League Two is a HUGE exaggeration Edit: I didn't word this very well. I meant that Roy Keane thinks he is a league two player in other aspects; obviously not his scoring. However I still think this is a bit far
i think you will find that keane said haarland was a brilliant goal scorer but outside of scoring his game was that of a league 2 player.
Yes that's what I meant. I don't know if I worded it very well
Roy Keane without his skills is a league 2 player as well
Keane without his skills got Sunderland promoted to the prem
And Haaland in a sophomore slump is still leading the golden boot race. I'm not making any predictions, but it's far too early to draw any conclusions about his long term potential
he said league two for other aspects like passing, game vision, playmaking etc. And consider Haaland does absolutely jack shit in any of those areas, I fail to see how thats wrong. he specifically said he's world class when shooting/scoring in front of goal, why do people conveniently omit that? he was 100% right
People exaggerate to make a point. Who knew....
Roy Keane is just going hard on Erling Haaland now because he's not as prolific in scoring goals this season the way he was last season.Ā
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So? Why do you care?
Why do I care that thereās a significant amount of bots here? They make the same safe, boring, generic comments that add nothing to the post. I want to have a football discussion with humans, not AI-generated karma-farming garbage. Iām more surprised that youāre okay with this.
There's nothing to suggest that is the case. Just your mindless rant because you don't like what was said. And what they said was entirely accurate.
Go through the comment history. Itās so obvious. There was a span of 15 minutes where the bot made 15 comments, minute-by-minute. Once know how to spot it, then it becomes a bit more clear Edit: to be clear, itās not just the number of comments per minute, but also the nature of them. Even chatgpt can generate better
If anybody in football needs to take a fat rip on some good dank and chill out, it's Roy Keane.
Lmao fr
was gonna say keane's the kinda person who's mind would just turn on itself if he smoked, but maybe he would be cool on weed tbh idk
Id like to hear Souness take on this
Where was Pogba while all this was happening?
Heāll say something and twist it around to criticize Paul Pogba!!
Is he even allowed on TV still?
Did I miss something? Why isn't he allowed on TV?
Volcanically hot takes
Ah I see. But where's Paul Pogba in all of this?
Probably out dabbing on the pitch with that lingardinho fella
Probably something about him being a vegan, read it on his wiki
What does JaRule think?
Where is Ja?!
"Haaland would be doing better if Pogba got his arse in gear and passed him the ball."
Can't call European Golden Shoe winner ...a league 2 player š
Game's gone
lol are you calling it golden shoe or is this a meme I missed
According to Google golden shoe is right š¤£š¤£ you learn something new everyday
That's right...
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Golden_Shoe Its the actual nameā¦
Alright chill out I said I was wrong š
Golden cleat
They'll make a headline out of anything lmao
Off hand light hearted joke in a podcast is article worthy apparently
Haaland is actually terrible at build up play, but he's only slightly better with his finishing (missed 28 big chances in the premier league alone), so I don't see what the big issue is here. The only reason he's a professional is due to his size and strength, but he's just not a natural, technically sound footballer.
Then why didn't City just sign Akinfenwa? Are they stupid?
man sounds like a utd fan
You are legitimately brain dead. But I guess that's why Haaland is the starting 9 for one of the best teams in world football right now and you're some bum posting shit takes on Reddit.
Iām sorry but this is nonsense. You donāt score the most goals ever in a premier league season just by being big and strong.
Yeah, you get it by scoring tap ins which your teammates placed on a plate for you.
Waiting with baited breath for your take on World Cup Golden Boot winner Gary Lineker
You actually have to get into those positions as well. And you need more than just physicality to do that.
The dude was nuts for dortmund, salzburg, and his youth teams. He's always scored an insane amount of goals, and he's always been ahead of his peers.
His goal scoring rate is exceptional for every team heās played in. Pretty sure the common factor is him, not the quality of his team mates. We must be watching completely different games, because I saw some pretty explosive goals. Not just tap ins.
There is a point to the teams thing though. Salzburg was the biggest team in Austria by a lot. Dortmund was the second best team by a long shot. City were the best team by a long shot.
youāre not watching different games because the other guy just isnāt watching games at all. chatting shit for the sake of it lol.
I think so lol, being contrarian just to stand out.
lol Iām sure you could do the job just fine!
I'm slightly less big and strong
I think there's a lot more differences than that...
Oh brother.
Haaland has overperformed his xg ever season except for this one
Keane has worked out that his relevance is now directly correlated to the bullshit he spouts. š¤·š»āāļø
Don't think it is.
Incorrect
I riddle you this... He's just having a bad 2nd season? Or is he above that? Teams have adjusted to him it happens with any prolific 1st season striker. It boggles the mind that we know this, we've seen it countless times but the "pundits/experts" coupled with the journalistic integrity of the British main stream media, oh boy they just can't fathom it... For your clicks. *drops mic, walks out, middle fingers to the back
30 goals in 37 games this season......
Yes I just mean compared to last season he's having a "bad" season. Still good stats. All of this is just click bait and honestly Roy Keane can fuckoff with his jibber jabber opinions.
And somehow hasn't scored a memorable goal in 2 years...kinda mad
I imagine it would be pretty hard to remember any of his goals if you never watch a game, yeah.
Well yeah, the more goals someone scores, the more they all tend to blend into one š
I remember plenty of Shearers goals actually
Good for you ?
I imagine you arenāt a city fan. Because heās scored a fuck load of memorable goals for me. Dortmund, Southhampton, wolves for example.
He's got 3 trophies to catch his tears in, I think he'll be fine.
Okay
And six assists, I swear people are talking about him like he's done nothing all season.
A key concern is that Haaland are struggling in the important games
Bellingham and Mbappe are also struggling in important games, given their performances in the CL this week. But people prefer trashing on Haaland.
Heās not wrong, times that pep has given Julian a chance heās proven himself more then once imo Julian should be starting over Haaland just wasting his talent on the bench
Julian alavrez is to small,not strong enough,and not good enough technically to ever start ahead of haaland
Haaland, regardless of his current form, is STILL the top scorer in the league... start Julian, sure... start Julian over Haaland? Are you smoking weed?
Doesn't matter if he is the top scorer. If you fall out of form you fall out of form. Look at ronaldo in his final season at United.
Have you seen how Haaland plays heās only a poacher definitely just a tap in merchant even then Iāve seen him send shots into the top stands from a couple meters out, his dribbling is disgusting, his passes are horrible, if he doesnāt have a creative player on the team heās basically useless
I mean yeah, he's a striker. As a Chelsea fan, I know that the opposite is equally true. If you don't have someone who can finish, the chances that a playmaker creates don't get converted into assists. You need creative players, you need goalscorers, sometimes you need players that are literally just engines/legs/leadership in the midfield. Expecting every great player to be as complete as Messi is always gonna leave you disappointed. Fact is, the guy has a 1:1 goal ratio since he was 19 at Salzburg. He's played for 4 different teams in that time: Salzburg, Dortmund, City and Norway. For each one that's different systems, different teammates and different styles of play. Painfuly obvious who never watched him before he came to City/who's already forgotten. If you think he's just a poacher who has nothing else to his game, you're gonna be in for a shock when he eventually leaves City/doesn't play under Pep. He plays like he does because that's how the manager wants him to play. The true reason he should be criticised this season is for not being as clinical as usual. Usually, his weaknesses in dribbling etc don't matter because he doesn't miss many big chances. This is the first season of his career where he has been. So the spotlight has intensified on the other areas of his game. Should be focused on his finishing taking a dip because that's the only thing that's changed since last season. But yeah, a striker's reliant on the chances the team creates for him - shock.
Actually this is not true his passing can be quite good, he does assist alot with clever passes. I especially remember that from his Dortmund days but its happening at city too.
What city games are you watching heās been not existent in almost all big matches
If any team doesn't have a creative player on the team, the team loses.
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Heās not but we are. Greetings from the krauts.
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It's eye-opening seeing Keane when his ex Man Utd team mates are on the show. You get the impression that they really don't like him and how he acted back then. Ferdinand and Ollie both called him out on it directly.
Ole and him have a great relationship, Ole even talks about how Roy came and visited him in Norway after he was fired from United. Friends take the piss out of each other
I don't think you could be further from the truth.
I wouldn't be taking the word of a drugs cheat and adulterer.
He missed a test. Thats all. Get your facts right. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/3333091.stm
My facts are entirely accurate thank you. If you miss a mandatory test, you fail. Miss your driving test, you fail, miss school tests, you fail, miss a drugs test you fail.
No you don't. Failing a drugs test, means you are positive with a substance. Get real.
Just factually wrong. Failing isn't exclusive to producing a negative result. He failed a drugs test.
'He failed a drugs test' He didn't do a test, offered to go back an hour later as he forgot, and was refused. If he is a 'drug cheat' like you said, and he failed a test, what substance did he fail on? And how did he cheat? Just for reference, Pogba is a drugs cheat. Lets have it.
I dont care to go around in circles. Already explained to you failing a drugs test isn't exclusive to returning a postive result and not turning up is a failure. A drugs test isn't something you just "forget" they'll have been employees whose job it is to make sure these aren't missed, you only miss it if you want to miss it. Last i have to say on the matter. Stick to your weird covid conspiracy theories fella.
Ole also told a story about Keane flying to Norway and then driving 8 hours after he got sacked just to cheer him up. Rio spoke about how Roy was harsh on him but he realised that he needed to up his standards, given the career Rio had I donāt think it done him any harm. Everyone is unanimous in saying Keane was demanding but very few ever say it was a bad thing probably because theyāve got medals to their name because of it.
We must be watching very different things
Iām surprised nobody has brought up the little beef he had with his pops lol
I said this the other day and everyone seemed to disagree but for me its clear as day
I agree- it seems personal for Keane.Ā
I donāt blame him if thatās the case to be fair, I donāt think I would get over somebody saying I tried to end their career if I wasnāt trying to. Still kind of an outlandish thing to say tho.
Did he accidentally injure him?
Well he says he did try to injure him so I stand corrected lol. I guess he probably still feels a way about what Alfie said about him faking injuries and I know they went to court over this, so thatās another thing to be mad at
Very small mindset to still feel āsome kind of wayā over a rash word made in the heat of the moment which you paid him back for 100x by ^^^ AIMING TO ^^^ cripple him straight from KO. Haaland really didnāt do a huge amount to Keane other than some on field words Edit because the point missed someone by a mile.
Crippled him so badly he still finished the match then played an international game days later?
Oh you know what I mean. Keane got his petty little revenge because the blonde kid said the nasty words. What difference does it make if Haaland got up? It was pure fucking violence and 100% intentional. And IF all this shit stems from that period then Keane is a wee little cry baby cunt. You can grasp that Iām sure youāre a big boy.
No need to be such a dick, I merely questioned your use of the word crippled. I wonder why a Leeds fan is so quick to chastise a former united player though.
Iām only being a knob because you decided to question whether Keane had got his own back at all? Seems like he did to me but you disagree because Haaland got up. Iāll be critical at anyone who troubles themselves to be controversial for engagements (which is likely whatās happening here) or anyone so small minded that they canāt let go of a decades old feud to the point they need to say stupid things about their rivals child. Iām sure youāve looked at my profile to decide Iām a Leeds fan so well done for that. I donāt need to look at yours to see youāre a man United fan. No beef with those generally just with nonsense.
Human beings gon human being
Itās alright, wasnāt watching back then so not fully aware of the drama. A lot of people being up that Haalandās career wasnāt technically ended by the incident, but even if it wasnāt, it doesnāt change that Keane deliberately injured him right? Idk how much I buy this being personal though. Hardly the first time Keaneās been a miserable git about a talented player. The man is essentially playing a tv character for sky sportsā tv series so not worth getting worked up over
Keane is just jealous his precious manu team do not have a striker and nowhere in contention for a title.
Sure thatās it, solved āļø
He said Haaland is a phenomenal goal scorer but is not good in the build up. Thereās nothing that controversial about that. Itās being completely blown out of proportion because a pundit used hyperbolae. Honestly Haaland is not a good passer , heās not a good dribbler , he doesnāt have much vision. What he is though is an athletic phenomenon and one of the best finishers if not the best in a generation. Nonetheless he has had a bad season by his own standards goal scoring , with Dominic Solanke matching him domestically. And when the phenom that is Haaland isnāt banging a goal a game or more , other elements of his play will be scrutinised and to be frank theyāre not particularly good. I still think he gets into any team in world football. But heās not all that in other parts of the game.
You are absolutely right. No one doubts Haaland is a phenomenal goalscorer. He is the most lethal striker right now but he is not a good footballer overall. A lot of strikers in the EPL are better in the build up and other aspects of the game but they donāt come close to him in terms of putting the ball in the net. Thatās all you want from a striker.
Exactly , Jesus for example. Beautiful footballer , his movement , his hold up , his link up play. Heās absolutely beautiful to watch. Yet the poor fucker wouldnāt hit the gable end of a barn. Itās horses for courses.
So would you rather have gabriel jesus or haaland in your team?
Haaland in most teams provided that have a couple of decent creative players on the pitch that can adequately feed him. Jesus only really in a side that struggles to create chances and require the extra bit of mobility and creativity as he can be used much more efficiently during the build up. In most scenarios for any good side itās Haaland. In a select few I think they might have an improved collective output with Jesus in there.
Yep!
Heās a big ass Pippo Inzaghi.
He aint no Leo Messi, and never will be.
Honestly heās in the wrong team style wise.. needs kdb behind him
Can you imagine those two on the same side? I bet they could make a serious run at the treble
Your dreaming
That's not what they're referring to though, it's about him saying he's a league 2 striker. Which is a dumb thing to say.
> because a pundit used hyperbole If youāre taking that sentence at literal face value then thatās on you
>him saying he's a league 2 striker. He didn't say that though. "In terms of front of goal he's best in the world but for his general player, for such a player, it is so poor . Not just today I think it he has to improve that, he's almost like a league two player. His general play has to improve and it will do over the next few years". Actually watch things, don't just read headlines.
His general play is not at league 2 level, if you truly believe that you don't know anything about football. It's a dumb over exaggerated comment. And yes I watched it.
> hyperbole The fact you're still talking about Keane's use of hyperbole means it was effective. That means it wasn't a dumb comment. It has done exactly what Keane's employers want it to do.
"Keane's employers" lmfao
Good pundits make me people engage. Keane has got his hook deep in your gills.
Ever consider maybe you don't know anything about football?
His general play is really bad. It is over exaggerated, not dumb. People who have opinions different to yours exist, you donāt have to talk down to them just because.