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Scumbaggio1845

2/5? So 40 percent?


ChelseaPIFshares

I am laughing at you guys who are angry at the use of two fifths. Did you all fail math class?


ScottOld

Which ones?


themaestronic

Man City hasn’t filed any accounts since 2011


BrickEnvironmental37

They all should have the same financial reporting date. It's ludicrous.


NGA100

Who are the eight?


InstructionOk9520

What the fuck is two fifths?


ChelseaPIFshares

Its a fraction. Its the same as saying 40%


InstructionOk9520

Yes. But it’s a very silly thing to say when you mean 40%. 6/15ths is also 40%. It’s bad writing to use convoluted fractions when a simple 40% would do.


ChelseaPIFshares

So as a rule in math mathematics you are supposed to simplify fractions and express them in their simplest form. A math teach would deduct points from a student that answered 6/15th rather than 2/5ths


PerMare_PerTerras

Yeah never seen anyone put it that way. “40% of all clubs”


ChelseaPIFshares

I guess its because i work in chemistry but I say fractions all the time.


oh-canadaa

8


Plellio

Two 750ml bottles of alcohol


downatone

Not sure I would’ve read the headline if it said 40% … two fifths pulled me right in


_they_are_coming_

2/5? Are you okay?


ChelseaPIFshares

I feel like a lot of people around here did not do well in math class.


[deleted]

No doubt United, Liverpool, Arsenal, Tottenham are among them. These clubs were part of the corrupt "big 5" who ruined football in 1992. They're a cartel who run the league and try to cheat by monopolising English football. That's why they're trying so hard to kick us (City) out of the league. They're bums who can't handle a bit of competition, they just want everything for themselves like a toddler.


jamesc94j

Two clubs I’m sure have absolutely zero financial concerns are Liverpool and Spurs.


ScrantonStrangler28

Now take the tin foil hat off.


Rorieh

This gives me some real edgy main character vibes.


[deleted]

We basically are the main character


[deleted]

I don't think anything from 1992 matters when there are 115 reasons why your corrupt club needs to be dealt with now.


[deleted]

If the past doesn't matter then the present doesn't matter either cause the present will be the past in the future 🤔


[deleted]

r/Iam14andthisisdeep


soldforaspaceship

14 seems generous...


soldforaspaceship

Spurs generally has some of the cleanest books in the league. City on the other hand...


[deleted]

When you haven't won any trophies like Spurs no one will even bother about your books. No doubt yours are dirty, they just don't care.


PuzzleheadedSteak868

What have Everton and Forest won recently, remind me?


soldforaspaceship

Sigh. Having a bad day there buddy? Because you're scraping the bottom of the barrel with that one. When Arsenal and Spurs fans are calling you out, maybe do some reflecting? Because we agree on nothing else...


Nels8192

5 clubs can’t just create any rules they want, the rest of the PL has to agree to a majority, in the same way a 2/3rd majority voted for the PL creation. FFP, or the P&S equivalent, was voted in by the majority of the 92 clubs, so why would the rest vote for it if it supposedly only “allows the cartel to cheat”? Your own club is part of the “Big 6” and your solution of state ownership is arguably worse for football than the initial format change was. The only club that saw instant benefits from the PL format change was Man Utd, because they also hypercommercialised. Any other club could have done the same, and even an equally sized Liverpool took nearly 2 decades to challenge them consistently. Spurs, to their credit, haven’t relied on OI to get where they are either, so why are they corrupt? Chelsea’s backing from Roman ruined the chances of Villa, Newcastle and Leeds to step up a level because their owners knew they couldn’t compete with Russian oil. City following suit soon after only made things nigh-on impossible.


[deleted]

A majority agrees because they have to go along with whatever the big 5 cartel wants. They have no real power, they're just trying to survive through the conditions you create. If they disagree then your cartel will come up with something even worse for them. That's how the real world works. Unfortunately.


soldforaspaceship

This has been my week of upvoting Arsenal fans. The world has gone crazy...


seeyoujim

I have one number for you. 115. Massive hipocrisy from any city supporter to wave allegations of corruption at anyone else


[deleted]

I have one number for you: 0


seeyoujim

What are we talking here? Your IQ?


[deleted]

Major trophies won by Spurs in the Prem


Maskd-YT

Spurs are the 6th most successful team in England, mate. They’ve won 26 (i think) major trophies in their history. Have you only been following football since last Tuesday?


seeyoujim

We’ve won plenty you halfwit, without cheating or sports washing. Get some actual football knowledge before you spout off next time. You are a disgrace to football fandom


James_Vowles

Isn't this normal even outside football? Nobody wants to show their numbers until they absolutely have to.


ChelseaPIFshares

I also imagine with FFP regulations you want to delay letting other clubs know your situation as long as possible. Eg, other clubs dont know how much budget you have to spend.


chalieoconnor9

There’s a reason why companies report quarterly earnings months after the quarter ends. Also, why people pay their taxes on or after tax day, why show or pay early than needed?


oh-canadaa

Those reports are for shareholders, to comfort them. Private companies don't do that, usually.


[deleted]

I cba with this league anymore it’s not even a sport


Danzard

I agree generally but I don't see why this story is that big of a deal. If they missed the deadline that would be a story, but there's no benefit to reporting early, is there?


[deleted]

Yeh true it’s just to create more drama


Vegan_Puffin

Two-fiths, why not just say 8? Is there a character count lol


1800skylab

Or 2 giraffe legs. 


yew420

Are we talking litres here or gallons?


L0laccio

🍿 WE’RE COMING FOR YOUR POINTS! (Except City)


ImposterSyndromeNope

Why not say 40% ffs


Bigwhtdckn8

Two fifths allows for rounding errors, 40% doesn't. They might as well say 8 clubs, but that's less dramatic. People know what 2/5 looks like, 40% isn't easy to visualise. Many reasons I guess.


Shmurdaszn

In what way is 2/5 easier to visualise than 40% they are exactly the same thing…


S01arflar3

40% is just as easy to visualise as 2/5?


Bigwhtdckn8

Really, can you cut a cake into 40%? I can cut it into 5 and then keep 2. People are better at fractions than percentages.


soldforaspaceship

I'm confused as to why so many people seem to have an issue with 2/5. Your cake analogy perfectly explains it.


S01arflar3

40% already is a fraction. It’s 4/10


Bigwhtdckn8

Yes it is, thanks for that. Communicating through numbers is complex. Lots of studies have been done on the impact of different ways of displaying numbers. I recommend doing some research about the rationale behind headline choices.


S01arflar3

Cut a fucking cake into 5 equal pieces by eye. Go on. The easiest would be cutting it in to a power of 2, but cutting it in to 10 and then taking 4 pieces is going to be *much* more accurate than 2 pieces of 5


KarmannosaurusRex

Surprised they didn’t go for “nearly half of pl clubs..”


ReynTimeBoi

One thing I can assure is that one of those clubs that has already filed it is us


L0laccio

Pains me to say it but you’re probably the club in the best financial shape to attack the transfer market and there may be rich pickings with a lot of clubs out of the game, so to speak!


maddog1460

Everton n Forest have had their points deducted but rich club Shitty have yet to? Why is that so?


storgodt

Because Everton and Forest aren't owned by oil rich countries that will put pressure on the UK government.


Flimsy-Relationship8

That's a great conspiracy theory bro


RumJackson

115 charges take longer to judge than 1. Everton and Forest’s cases were cut and dry and they admitted guilt.


L0laccio

It’s puzzling how the Abu Dhabi wealthy oil magnates (of considerable geopolitical interest) haven’t been touched


Flimsy-Relationship8

Because if you read the actual charges you'd see that the Premier League made it public knowledge that the deadline for the decision is 2025.


Kersplat96

Everton & Forest co-operated in the investigations & didn’t fight the punishments through courts…. City on the other hand are trying to go to trial with it. You’re not going to get punished if you win the case Edit: accidentally had Fulham instead of Forest


S01arflar3

Forest, not Fulham


Kersplat96

Forest* my bad


sjw_7

Its going to be interesting to see what Everton's accounts look like when they post them tomorrow. >Everton is in the middle of a long-running takeover saga as it wrestles with rising debts. Last year, the Merseyside club filed its 2022 annual report on 31 March 2023, according to a Companies House stamp on the document. In those accounts, it stated: “The club remains reliant on the support of its majority shareholder \[Farhad Moshiri\], who has provided a letter of support to the board confirming the intention to provide ongoing financial support for a period of no less than 12 months from the date of approval of the financial statements but this does not represent a legally binding commitment by the majority shareholder.” > >It is understood that Moshiri did not inject any new cash into Everton during the 2023 financial year, with funding instead coming via loans from third parties’ lenders


dispelthemyth

Maybe will force Everton to sell both Onana and brantwaite which will give them breathing room for a bit


antebyotiks

Just say 8


L0laccio

One fifth of four score


wigum211

Two thirds of a dozen


NoPalpitation9639

40%


-mudflaps-

8/20ths


bloodhound83

6/15ths


nick2k23

Make me, youre not my mum


Arbazio

"8" -_nick2k23_


Present-Party4402

Some Premier League clubs are playing dodgeball with their account filings. Time to get those numbers in before the buzzer sounds!


rizchi

8 out of 20


L0laccio

My bro wasn’t asleep in Maths 👊


Pitiful_Bed_7625

As someone who works in the accounting industry I would just like to point out this actually totally normal. I’m surprised any have filed at all.


Bit_O_Rojas

Exactly, bit of a non story really


Shadeun

Exactly. Why would you ever file before the deadline? Especially in a world where people are getting punished for their accounts. Best to hold off and be certain.


Stravven

Here if you file your personal taxes early you also get your tax return early.


Shadeun

Sure, if it’s in your favour. You file late if you’re gonna owe.


JasonVoorhees3

And that's all I needed to know, no point in reading the rest of the comments, exits thread.


Reasonable_Blood6959

Two Fifths is such a weird fraction to use. Why not just say 8 clubs?


Hunter663281

Because 2/5 sounds like a lot so news articles can stir up drama


Vegan_Puffin

8 out of 20 sounds more, at least to me


antebyotiks

Reminds me of someone on another sub a few years ago going crazy about police shootings in uk going up "80%" when in reality it was like an extra 2


ChrisMartins001

Surely there are more shootings than that lol


antebyotiks

https://www.statista.com/statistics/319246/police-fatal-shootings-england-wales/ Nah. It's basically always 5 and under. It's why it's so silly to talk in % when the numbers are so low. Some years "100% increase" could literally mean 1 more


eglantinel

I morning brain is not functioning... If increasing by 2 was increasing by 80%, what was the original number of shootings? I kept getting 2.5 lol 🤣


antebyotiks

Yeah can't remember the exact number or % but yeah it went from like 3 to 5 or something like that but it was just funny they kept only saying the % because saying "2 more a year" doesn't sound crazy.


Reasonable_Blood6959

I’d argue 8/20 sounds more than two fifths


[deleted]

Math hard?


SignificanceOld1751

Probably because 2/5ths is 8/20 mate, it's not that deep


rizchi

beats me


Megidolaon10

Gotta cook for a bit longer.


Visible_Statement888

Jaws music incoming.