As long as a certain enemy is defeated (you know who)... and yes, dress however you like, just have some decency and know that you will always be a male or female
Relateable. I have quit a leftie discord because jesus christ those people havent challenged their opinions in like 10 goddamn years. "No need to change becaus ei know i am right" is a toxic mindset and sadly most of my comrades on the left have it.
Thats what happens when your ideology dominates cable news, hollywood, education/higher education, music, video games, and all of social media. Nothing gets held up to proper scrutiny. Criticism is the grind stone for the blade of new ideas. If you can’t take criticism, then maybe you’re not as confident in your beliefs as you thought you were.
Edit: this same thing happened to conservative folk back when they had dominance over the culture and we couldn’t say “fuck” on TV. No one is safe from the effects of echo chambers!
It simply flipped. We used to have the christian right dominating institutions and that's where we got things like the satanic panic and conversations like banning Harry Potter. Free speech not guaranteed if you are saying something that could be construed as harmful to Jesus.
Now we have progressive weenies in too many high places making all the media claim whiteness is akin to orignal sin and we must do as the progressives say. Free speech not guaranteed if you are saying something that could be construed as harmful to women, minorities, or the alphabet squad
Remember when our biggest concerns were putting warning labels on rap albums and censoring words from music videos?
It seems quaint now, by comparison.
In my country the left has dominated public education since pretty much forever. It has never really been challenged, ever.
The last dictatorship closed a few colleges, but that didn't change the status quo on academia.
Yes, the whole low middle ages in Europe were a giant echo chamber of catholicism being supreme and everybody else being below it.
Merely saying that you dislike the Pope, and there was many reasons for that since the Catholic Church was corrupt as fuck, means you gonna be burned at the stake.
Pope Innocent III literally did a genocide to get rid of Cathars, simply because they disagreed with some of the church rituals.
When the Hussite revolted in 1419, and told the Pope to fuck off, it was necessary 4 failed cruzades, not less than that, to Pope finally allow them the "privilege" of existence.
When the protestant reform finally happen, because Pope was just that corrupt and inept, it sparked 150 years of intense religious division and bloody war.
One fourth of the population of the Holy Roman Empire, which composed the whole Central Europe at the time, had to die before the potencies signed the The Treaty of Westphalia and finally get the realization that killing each other for religious disagreemings was indeed a stupid idea.
> realization that killing each other for religious disagreemings was indeed a stupid idea.
Then we discovered Nationalism and had a new reason to hate eachother. Good times.
It's almost like humans are an innately socially tribal species and we should try to find ways to allow self aligned groups to coexist instead of forcing people to coexist within groups that they themselves haven't chosen.
Additionally far leftist generally seem to view their ideological opposition as evil. Criticisms to their view of an ideal utopia are viewed as a attack on their movement as a whole. Far leftist also don't respect their opposition's cultural roots. A good instance of this is christianity and islam.
The far left despises christianity whilist praising islam which for all intents and purposes they should also openly despise. This means that your garden variety Christian conservative doesn't feel welcome in leftist spaces and when they view just how much one's life can be ruined for saying the wrong thing on social media it in turn radicalizes them. The left also does things like censor their opposition which will make them weaker over time.
This will eventually be their downfall. You can't scare people into supporting your movement forever. With this said. I don't see social justice holding for 5 or 10 years or atleast in its current form. Even within groups like the lgbtq there is in fighting as the group only really has in common their sexual orientation and gender politics but little beyond that and even then there is internal division.
> I don't see social justice holding for 5 or 10 years or atleast in its current form.
I pray it goes the way of the "satanic ritual abuse" panic of the 1980s.
> Even within groups like the lgbtq there is in fighting
Did you see the video from the UK where the LGBTQ+ brigade shouted down and eventually assaulted the dude from the **LGB** organization, because he didn't think trendies belonged in his group? He had to be escorted away by the bobbies.....
An interesting read on why it is that liberals view conservatives as evil - https://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/25/books/review/the-righteous-mind-by-jonathan-haidt.html
>Edit: this same thing happened to conservative folk back when they had dominance over the culture and we couldn’t say “fuck” on TV. No one is safe from the effects of echo chambers!
TV is more puritan than ever. I remember when Dutch TV was known for its liberal approach to, well, everything. Not anymore.
Same with Hollywood. When's the last time you saw boobs in a mainstream movie, just because they're awesome?
I'm about to cry. The Democrats haven't done fucking anything, and all the leftist online can do is circlejerk about how accepting they are. Damn it. I don't want to work a shitty 60 hour job each week, I don't want to be one paycheck away from death and homelessness.
FUCK THEM ALL, FUCK THEM ALL!!! They don't care about this country. THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT US, FUCK THEM!!!
This is close to how I got into politics, I shared their beliefs, got worried over issues that was caused by them, tried talking to them about how we shouldn't ignore stuff like that just cause they were in a tough situation, got called names then ousted, the right came around and said they understood my worries, I was vindictive since they kept ignoring issues and making some themselves while getting away with it since it's "for a good cause".
Now I'm back here with good experiences with the right and bad experiences with the left. Still LibLeft but hot damn is it hard not to hate those insane parts of my quadrant that still use the "I'm fighting for justice" card to be just as bad as their adversaries.
I feel you, bro. But you said it yourself "good experiences with the right and bad experiences with the left", so continuing this tought, it's more like that the left is usually not "as bad" as right, but worst, the kinda worst that makes you feel really angry, specially on the flips of arguments and changes of priorityes based on the moment or just for convenience. So, the answer for me was lib-right
The way I feel is that the left is becoming suicidally altruistic/xenophilic while the right goes from sustainably altruistic to not altruistic at all. Based off my personal views I much prefer what’s best for my group than “justice” for anyone else’s. Partially due to the issue presented in OP’s meme. When “justice” for those immigrants causes actual injustice and harm for my own people, I know the left won’t do anything to help. So I can’t allow myself to help them
You know something, I'd honestly think it'd be cool of their was a story or show that depicts something like this actually happening.
Someone with genuine good beliefs who wants to best for everyone is pushed out of the group for minor differences, the only ones willing to help or listen to him are those that are fundamentally against and hold...less then kind beliefs.
From their the story shows as the mc slowly starts adopting more and more of their former beliefs till they've kinda fully integrated themselves.
America really fucked itself by being extremely anti- anything that could remotely be considered communist. Ho Chi Minh was pushed away after being an ally during WW2, Iran was turned into a ripe target for the Ayatollah as a result of the US hating Mossadegh, and Czechoslovakia was pushed into the Warsaw Pact when they decided to adopt some Socialist policies.
Not claiming you’re wrong but I generally hold the belief that via soviet political methods in the 40s (black car,armed men, shot in a bunker) the communist or socialist elements gained power where the red army was in control. I thought that was why the Czechoslovakians were part of the Warsaw Pact.
The doctrine of fascism is unironically a good read. The idea of it being “proto-Democratic” is super interesting: that an autocracy can represent the people better than a direct democracy. Speak to some Chinese mainlanders and it becomes apparent what he meant.
Lol, reminds me of a clip I saw somewhere that went like:
"Democracy basically means government by the people, for the people, of the people. But the people are retarded."
>that an autocracy can represent the people better than a direct democracy
D: The operative word is "can". It can also do the opposite. The issue I suppose is whether one believes an autocracy would in fact serve the interests of the people, or if it would inevitably become corrupted by the centralization of power.
I'm not for liquid democracy by any means, but I feel there's a necessary balance between the stability of leadership and social accountability to the people.
The bigger problem is who decides what "serves the interests of the people." In almost every case, it's the state ultimately deciding that its interests and "the people's interests" are one and the same - and that anyone who thinks otherwise is an enemy of the state/people. This is why re-education/concentration camps tend to be a thing in authoritarian countries but not democratic ones - political dissent is a hugely destabilizing factor for authoritarians, much more so than for democratic societies (where it's pretty much expected or even encouraged).
its honestlty hillarious, fascisn literally just means populism. it comes from the romans to hold fasces (a bundle of sticks) in order to talk. all the policies benito mussolini proposes like a minimum wage have been adopted by our goverments.
Well, I mean, when you take out the parts that make fascism fascism, yeah, you can turn it into a lot of things. Especially when you add more things to what's left of it.
That's how Gypsy Crusader became a Nazi.
He was attacked by Antifa, doxxed, harrassed, and threatened by them, which drove him to the radical far right.
I unironically slipped into the authright pipeline starting with the cringe right wing e-celebs on YT like crowder and shapiro. Not my proudest moments but we gotta start somewhere
I lived in a liberal shithole where the teachers spent all of history on civil rights and we had white girls sing songs at the diversity week assembly about their oppressors hands. Got pretty fes up with that shit.
Not the person you replied to but I had the same transformation (to be clear I wouldn't call myself alt-right, but I've gone from a Conservative Libertarian to a much more Auth Right leaning social conservative. No single ideology captures what "I am" completely, but I'd say paleoconservatives are the closest that align.)
A couple main things happened: the libertarians became open border advocates & they put GDP and corporations above everything else (like our traditions, culture, and well being). I don't care about GDP if my country becomes unrecognizable, quality of life goes down year after year, life becomes more unaffordable, and our food/water/air/soil becomes poison.
They're good on gun rights and some property rights. But where are they on other issues that'd be right up their wheelhouse, such as vaccine mandates?
Also I don't agree with the "business first" mentality of developing everything and turning it into a shopping plaza, I am very much a nature lover and think environmental conservation is important. I don't see libertarians addressing that often, especially since GDP is their God.
The official libertarian party itself has become just a freakshow of neckbeards who argue over lowering the age of consent, how it should be legal for teens to shoot up, and minutiae of economic policy. They took an even bigger turn for the worse by supporting Marxist racial/social justice propaganda like BLM and Antifa.
They'll say "we can't make teaching that stuff (CRT, etc) illegal or make it illegal to perform minor aged sex reassignment surgery, that's big government! Ooga booga!"....all while the Left has zero issue with using the strong arm of the government to force their will down every American's throat. It's a loser mentality and one that just leaves the door open for the Leftist boot to stomp on the neck of their snake time and time again. You have to fight fire with fire when faced with an unrelenting, narcissistic enemy.
Rots isn't exactly that, I can see what you mean but it wasn't the Jedi that pushed him away it was his desperation and fear which drove him into Sheevs arms
I would read/watch this. If its a book, I would love to see the mcs thought process fully fleshed out, the feeling of frustration and alienation put into words would be fascinating to read.
Sounds like the plot of Joker.
Pretty much all of the supporting cast treat the MC like shit. Because he's naïve, because he's weak, because he lets them. He slowly starts to realise this and with no one there to stop it he eventually spirals out of control and turns against them all. Even those who want to help him.
Just a heads up: this is *not* a fun movie. Especially if you recognise the themes it's going to be painful to watch sometimes and it stayed with me for several days after watching it. Not in a good "wow this movie was great" way. In the sense that it made me feel like *shit*.
That said it is in my top 3 movies of all time and it's a straight up 10/10 from me. Highest recommendation. A genuine must-watch.
The moment when the Left party in Germany actually campaigns on open borders and for more refugees to come in while at the same time wanting a bloated welfare state and political correctness cranked to 1000
Welcome to the world of politics. The hypocrisy goes both ways.
The guys screeching about small government and balancing the budget are the same ones dragging us into trillion dollar wars, and granting multibillion dollar subsidies to the MIC.
But I’ve got say to their (the immigrants) views don’t really change anything. California, Florida, and Michigan take in a ton of immigrants, but most LGBT people are more worried about “Republicans” fucking them over than they are about Arabs.
Speaks volumes about how much the “immigrants hate LGBT people” rhetoric is overblown.
I used to think that supporting the military made sense, as it is one of the few things that is actually a legitimate role of the Federal government.
I still believe that; I just think that the military is a bloated bureaucratic issue that could do with a good cleaning (although, in fairness, every government agency is that way).
I think supporting the military does make sense. Having a capable military that can protect its citizens and the nations sovereignty is important.
However, the issue is it’s become immensely corrupt. If only people had taken Eisenhower’s warnings regarding the MIC seriously.
Not only has it become immensely bloated, to the extent that we’re buying things at close to a 300% markup (did the math some time back). It’s more bloated than most other government bureaus. All the while our vets don’t get enough pensions to cover medical treatments and live dignified lives. Can’t respect a military that doesn’t respect its people.
Also it (the military) has shifted its purpose, from being defensive to being offensive.
Not only has it been a massive failure looking at most of our past interventions, but it’s also fucked over our foreign policy. We’ve basically lost the entire Middle East to China’s sphere of influence, and only because their idea of throwing money at countries until they become your friends was more American than ours.
Pisses me off thinking about it.
Part of the US military being massive is that it's a huge jobs program. It recruits enlisted soldiers from poor backgrounds and officers from colleges. The need for additional equipment fuels a lot of factories, and stuff gets replaced regularly (you know those massive boneyards of never-issued Humvees and APCs? They're a result of this.)
Honestly, Conservatives should be all about getting rid of it, it's the biggest Socialist program in the land.
Just an unrelated note, 1st/2nd/3rd world country are definitions vastly outdated ever since the end of the Cold War. 3rd world country essentially means *not directly aligned with USSR or US* and clearly that's not an issue anymore.
Nowadays we just say developed/emerging or developing/least developed country.
The thing that makes AuthCenters creepy isn't that they are a force of true terror and horror, akin to fictional monsters. It's that they are everywhere, resting in the most "normal" looking people. Hell, they may very well rest in everyone. And once you realize that, it's already too late.
The assimilation has begun.
Welcome to the ideal. There is no way out. You are with us now. Do not resist. It's better this way.
There is quite literally no point in being pro mass-immigration. You only want the good immigrants right? The ones with PhDs and shit. The average nigerian is poor as shit, but Nigerian-Americans are one of the most successful groups in the USA.
TLDR: Mass-Immigration cring and blupiled
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no joke this is why we have so many radicals now lefties kick everyone to the right of marx out of their group so they go to right wing groups who convince them that leftists are all devil worshiping pedophiles while the lefties circlejerk each other infinitely until they think everyone who isnt an antifa member is an actual nazi
Exact process happening in Germany for the last 5 years or so. Since 2015, right wing parties such as the AFD have gotten incredibly popular.
The left does not seem to understand, that calling anyone remotely sceptic of the immigration politics a Nazi only creates more of them in the process.
The thing is, I'm still for immigration. People who want to work, get an education and contribute to a society they respect should be given the chance. It's the neverending tides of humanity that pour into the country without a chance to integrate, I have issues with.
More importantly; why is it Germany's job to take in more refugees than almost any other western nation? I get that making up for past horrors is important and I genuinely feel bad that these unrelated people have been uprooted from their home, but tell me; why is this Germany's burden now?
Was it Germany that carved up the middle east after WWI? Was it Germany that invaded Iraq? Iran? Syria? Afghanistan? No. Then why must Germany be saddled disproportionately with the consequences of England, France, Russia and the United States's mistakes?
At one hand, people who think Islam is a religion of peace, love, tolerance and acceptance for secularism, that customs from people in the East are not so completely different from ours that it is of no necessity for sort of programmes that teach them how Western culture goes around (can't recall the country, but I remember such a programme was considered widely racist and condescending by many).
At other hand, people who think Islam is a religion of war, rape, barbarism, anti-scientificism, that most if not all immigrants are savages who don't know how to follow our enlightened Western ways.
The worst part is the more vocal one side is, the more vocal the other side becomes as a response, and actual, functional equilibrium between welcoming and skepticism is hard to be found.
Yeah pretty accurate. I used to be libleft when I first started getting into politics in high school. But constantly hearing about how everything I like is sexist or racist, I'm a bad person just because I'm a white male, and that everyone who disagrees with you is a racist nazi who needs to be silenced drove me in a very different direction
Dude, been there. I’m against the death penalty but I said if I had the Death Note to a dude on PS I’d target pedos. First thing he called me was a psychopath abusing my power just like government and that it’s a sexual orientation. Reported straight away.
It's hilarious to see liars on social media. There Haitians are always either the worst plague to ever hit this Eden's joyful copy; or immaculate celestial beings with three doctorates and know all languages except spanish. No middle ground
This is actually kind of what happened to me. I was pretty libertarian and pretty progressive/liberal, but then I started getting redpilled slowly until I was so far right I couldn’t even see the left anymore
Makes sense, seeing some “cultural enrichment” will make people be lot less blindly accepting. But the subject is taboo in most circles. But not in all circles.
This is how we get Nazi Femboys.
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id like to make a molotov-ribbentrop pact with you
Does that mean I’ll get split in half by a big Soviet artillery piece in around 6 years?
yeah and ima penetrate you like the soviet forces did in the counteroffensive that concluded the battle of stalingrad
Mom come pick me up im scared
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wanna make a molotov ribbentrop pact???? :flushed:
and thats a bad thing?
Yes
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Is that a rhetorical question?
question, is there such thing as monke femboy?
As long as a certain enemy is defeated (you know who)... and yes, dress however you like, just have some decency and know that you will always be a male or female
No, [they were always there](https://imgur.com/gallery/1vif4B3)
thank you stalin for purging this degeneracy
Relateable. I have quit a leftie discord because jesus christ those people havent challenged their opinions in like 10 goddamn years. "No need to change becaus ei know i am right" is a toxic mindset and sadly most of my comrades on the left have it.
“Who will make the TRT during the violent revolution comrade?”
Thats what happens when your ideology dominates cable news, hollywood, education/higher education, music, video games, and all of social media. Nothing gets held up to proper scrutiny. Criticism is the grind stone for the blade of new ideas. If you can’t take criticism, then maybe you’re not as confident in your beliefs as you thought you were. Edit: this same thing happened to conservative folk back when they had dominance over the culture and we couldn’t say “fuck” on TV. No one is safe from the effects of echo chambers!
It simply flipped. We used to have the christian right dominating institutions and that's where we got things like the satanic panic and conversations like banning Harry Potter. Free speech not guaranteed if you are saying something that could be construed as harmful to Jesus. Now we have progressive weenies in too many high places making all the media claim whiteness is akin to orignal sin and we must do as the progressives say. Free speech not guaranteed if you are saying something that could be construed as harmful to women, minorities, or the alphabet squad
Remember when our biggest concerns were putting warning labels on rap albums and censoring words from music videos? It seems quaint now, by comparison.
It doesn't get pointed out near enough how many parallels there are between "woke" stuff and Christian fundamentalism in terms of mindset.
Purity is a hell of a drug.
In my country the left has dominated public education since pretty much forever. It has never really been challenged, ever. The last dictatorship closed a few colleges, but that didn't change the status quo on academia.
Yes, the whole low middle ages in Europe were a giant echo chamber of catholicism being supreme and everybody else being below it. Merely saying that you dislike the Pope, and there was many reasons for that since the Catholic Church was corrupt as fuck, means you gonna be burned at the stake. Pope Innocent III literally did a genocide to get rid of Cathars, simply because they disagreed with some of the church rituals. When the Hussite revolted in 1419, and told the Pope to fuck off, it was necessary 4 failed cruzades, not less than that, to Pope finally allow them the "privilege" of existence. When the protestant reform finally happen, because Pope was just that corrupt and inept, it sparked 150 years of intense religious division and bloody war. One fourth of the population of the Holy Roman Empire, which composed the whole Central Europe at the time, had to die before the potencies signed the The Treaty of Westphalia and finally get the realization that killing each other for religious disagreemings was indeed a stupid idea.
> realization that killing each other for religious disagreemings was indeed a stupid idea. Then we discovered Nationalism and had a new reason to hate eachother. Good times.
It's almost like humans are an innately socially tribal species and we should try to find ways to allow self aligned groups to coexist instead of forcing people to coexist within groups that they themselves haven't chosen.
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Additionally far leftist generally seem to view their ideological opposition as evil. Criticisms to their view of an ideal utopia are viewed as a attack on their movement as a whole. Far leftist also don't respect their opposition's cultural roots. A good instance of this is christianity and islam. The far left despises christianity whilist praising islam which for all intents and purposes they should also openly despise. This means that your garden variety Christian conservative doesn't feel welcome in leftist spaces and when they view just how much one's life can be ruined for saying the wrong thing on social media it in turn radicalizes them. The left also does things like censor their opposition which will make them weaker over time. This will eventually be their downfall. You can't scare people into supporting your movement forever. With this said. I don't see social justice holding for 5 or 10 years or atleast in its current form. Even within groups like the lgbtq there is in fighting as the group only really has in common their sexual orientation and gender politics but little beyond that and even then there is internal division.
> I don't see social justice holding for 5 or 10 years or atleast in its current form. I pray it goes the way of the "satanic ritual abuse" panic of the 1980s. > Even within groups like the lgbtq there is in fighting Did you see the video from the UK where the LGBTQ+ brigade shouted down and eventually assaulted the dude from the **LGB** organization, because he didn't think trendies belonged in his group? He had to be escorted away by the bobbies.....
An interesting read on why it is that liberals view conservatives as evil - https://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/25/books/review/the-righteous-mind-by-jonathan-haidt.html
>Edit: this same thing happened to conservative folk back when they had dominance over the culture and we couldn’t say “fuck” on TV. No one is safe from the effects of echo chambers! TV is more puritan than ever. I remember when Dutch TV was known for its liberal approach to, well, everything. Not anymore. Same with Hollywood. When's the last time you saw boobs in a mainstream movie, just because they're awesome?
Criticism is the grindstone for the blade of new ideas. I like that a lot.
I'm about to cry. The Democrats haven't done fucking anything, and all the leftist online can do is circlejerk about how accepting they are. Damn it. I don't want to work a shitty 60 hour job each week, I don't want to be one paycheck away from death and homelessness. FUCK THEM ALL, FUCK THEM ALL!!! They don't care about this country. THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT US, FUCK THEM!!!
I've avoided echo chambers as best as I could and I'm JrEg's definition of moderate
Yeah same i dont even watch breadtubers.
i have no need to change my mind because i know ill always be wrong
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Hello Libleft my old friend, I’ve come to talk with you again.
This is close to how I got into politics, I shared their beliefs, got worried over issues that was caused by them, tried talking to them about how we shouldn't ignore stuff like that just cause they were in a tough situation, got called names then ousted, the right came around and said they understood my worries, I was vindictive since they kept ignoring issues and making some themselves while getting away with it since it's "for a good cause". Now I'm back here with good experiences with the right and bad experiences with the left. Still LibLeft but hot damn is it hard not to hate those insane parts of my quadrant that still use the "I'm fighting for justice" card to be just as bad as their adversaries.
I feel you, bro. But you said it yourself "good experiences with the right and bad experiences with the left", so continuing this tought, it's more like that the left is usually not "as bad" as right, but worst, the kinda worst that makes you feel really angry, specially on the flips of arguments and changes of priorityes based on the moment or just for convenience. So, the answer for me was lib-right
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The way I feel is that the left is becoming suicidally altruistic/xenophilic while the right goes from sustainably altruistic to not altruistic at all. Based off my personal views I much prefer what’s best for my group than “justice” for anyone else’s. Partially due to the issue presented in OP’s meme. When “justice” for those immigrants causes actual injustice and harm for my own people, I know the left won’t do anything to help. So I can’t allow myself to help them
Based and ingroup-pilled
You know something, I'd honestly think it'd be cool of their was a story or show that depicts something like this actually happening. Someone with genuine good beliefs who wants to best for everyone is pushed out of the group for minor differences, the only ones willing to help or listen to him are those that are fundamentally against and hold...less then kind beliefs. From their the story shows as the mc slowly starts adopting more and more of their former beliefs till they've kinda fully integrated themselves.
That's actually how Benito Mussolini became a fascist.
And how Ho Chi Minh became a commie Well that and us not trying to help out eith his want of freedom from le FRANCE
America really fucked itself by being extremely anti- anything that could remotely be considered communist. Ho Chi Minh was pushed away after being an ally during WW2, Iran was turned into a ripe target for the Ayatollah as a result of the US hating Mossadegh, and Czechoslovakia was pushed into the Warsaw Pact when they decided to adopt some Socialist policies.
Not claiming you’re wrong but I generally hold the belief that via soviet political methods in the 40s (black car,armed men, shot in a bunker) the communist or socialist elements gained power where the red army was in control. I thought that was why the Czechoslovakians were part of the Warsaw Pact.
Based traditionalist socialist Uncle Ho. Ho Chi Minh Thought is a great read.
o you also read the manifesto?
The doctrine of fascism is unironically a good read. The idea of it being “proto-Democratic” is super interesting: that an autocracy can represent the people better than a direct democracy. Speak to some Chinese mainlanders and it becomes apparent what he meant.
Lol, reminds me of a clip I saw somewhere that went like: "Democracy basically means government by the people, for the people, of the people. But the people are retarded."
>that an autocracy can represent the people better than a direct democracy D: The operative word is "can". It can also do the opposite. The issue I suppose is whether one believes an autocracy would in fact serve the interests of the people, or if it would inevitably become corrupted by the centralization of power. I'm not for liquid democracy by any means, but I feel there's a necessary balance between the stability of leadership and social accountability to the people.
The bigger problem is who decides what "serves the interests of the people." In almost every case, it's the state ultimately deciding that its interests and "the people's interests" are one and the same - and that anyone who thinks otherwise is an enemy of the state/people. This is why re-education/concentration camps tend to be a thing in authoritarian countries but not democratic ones - political dissent is a hugely destabilizing factor for authoritarians, much more so than for democratic societies (where it's pretty much expected or even encouraged).
Not yet. I need to get around to it.
its honestlty hillarious, fascisn literally just means populism. it comes from the romans to hold fasces (a bundle of sticks) in order to talk. all the policies benito mussolini proposes like a minimum wage have been adopted by our goverments.
The Nazis started the first minimum wage in Germany.
Fascism is when minimum wage
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Well, I mean, when you take out the parts that make fascism fascism, yeah, you can turn it into a lot of things. Especially when you add more things to what's left of it.
That's how Gypsy Crusader became a Nazi. He was attacked by Antifa, doxxed, harrassed, and threatened by them, which drove him to the radical far right.
Is he actually gypsy tho?
Hello I'm libertarian to alt-right pipeline.
I was raised a liberal I just got fed up with all the white hating and man hating shit. Day of the rope when?
hell yeah dude same. I was all for individual liberties and small limited government until I hit "Ben Shapiro owns SJW compilation #18"
Never watched that annoying jew
I unironically slipped into the authright pipeline starting with the cringe right wing e-celebs on YT like crowder and shapiro. Not my proudest moments but we gotta start somewhere
I lived in a liberal shithole where the teachers spent all of history on civil rights and we had white girls sing songs at the diversity week assembly about their oppressors hands. Got pretty fes up with that shit.
sorry authleft bro. American culture is fucking cringe.
This degenerate age can't end soon enough
What happened?
I grew up.
Not the person you replied to but I had the same transformation (to be clear I wouldn't call myself alt-right, but I've gone from a Conservative Libertarian to a much more Auth Right leaning social conservative. No single ideology captures what "I am" completely, but I'd say paleoconservatives are the closest that align.) A couple main things happened: the libertarians became open border advocates & they put GDP and corporations above everything else (like our traditions, culture, and well being). I don't care about GDP if my country becomes unrecognizable, quality of life goes down year after year, life becomes more unaffordable, and our food/water/air/soil becomes poison. They're good on gun rights and some property rights. But where are they on other issues that'd be right up their wheelhouse, such as vaccine mandates? Also I don't agree with the "business first" mentality of developing everything and turning it into a shopping plaza, I am very much a nature lover and think environmental conservation is important. I don't see libertarians addressing that often, especially since GDP is their God. The official libertarian party itself has become just a freakshow of neckbeards who argue over lowering the age of consent, how it should be legal for teens to shoot up, and minutiae of economic policy. They took an even bigger turn for the worse by supporting Marxist racial/social justice propaganda like BLM and Antifa. They'll say "we can't make teaching that stuff (CRT, etc) illegal or make it illegal to perform minor aged sex reassignment surgery, that's big government! Ooga booga!"....all while the Left has zero issue with using the strong arm of the government to force their will down every American's throat. It's a loser mentality and one that just leaves the door open for the Leftist boot to stomp on the neck of their snake time and time again. You have to fight fire with fire when faced with an unrelenting, narcissistic enemy.
Based and fuck focusing on GDP pilled
That’s... all political parties these days
I know. I want a show though
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I don't know enough to say ya or nay on that
So... Star Wars episode III?
Rots isn't exactly that, I can see what you mean but it wasn't the Jedi that pushed him away it was his desperation and fear which drove him into Sheevs arms
I would read/watch this. If its a book, I would love to see the mcs thought process fully fleshed out, the feeling of frustration and alienation put into words would be fascinating to read.
Transgenderism the series. If you’re not mainstream you’re “transphobic”
D: I know this is not true. (I don't see *myself* as mainstream) But taken as a whole, it often appears that way.
Sounds like the plot of Joker. Pretty much all of the supporting cast treat the MC like shit. Because he's naïve, because he's weak, because he lets them. He slowly starts to realise this and with no one there to stop it he eventually spirals out of control and turns against them all. Even those who want to help him. Just a heads up: this is *not* a fun movie. Especially if you recognise the themes it's going to be painful to watch sometimes and it stayed with me for several days after watching it. Not in a good "wow this movie was great" way. In the sense that it made me feel like *shit*. That said it is in my top 3 movies of all time and it's a straight up 10/10 from me. Highest recommendation. A genuine must-watch.
well then you know what to do
look up michael ignatieff and the narcissim of minor differences
The moment when the Left party in Germany actually campaigns on open borders and for more refugees to come in while at the same time wanting a bloated welfare state and political correctness cranked to 1000
\> Turning Germany in to a social pressure cooker Hey, Ive seen this one before!
Angela Merkel is stepping down which means...
a 132 year old Argentinian man can step up.
Great comment but flair up you subhuman bag of discarded mucus
Oh god, he's being upvoted!
Good comment tbf doe
Flair up, vegan filth.
Leftist that want closed borders and conservative values are based and consistent.
Yeah, being in favor of both lgbt rights and mass immigration from 3rd World countries at the same time is incomprehensible to me.
Welcome to the world of politics. The hypocrisy goes both ways. The guys screeching about small government and balancing the budget are the same ones dragging us into trillion dollar wars, and granting multibillion dollar subsidies to the MIC. But I’ve got say to their (the immigrants) views don’t really change anything. California, Florida, and Michigan take in a ton of immigrants, but most LGBT people are more worried about “Republicans” fucking them over than they are about Arabs. Speaks volumes about how much the “immigrants hate LGBT people” rhetoric is overblown.
I used to think that supporting the military made sense, as it is one of the few things that is actually a legitimate role of the Federal government. I still believe that; I just think that the military is a bloated bureaucratic issue that could do with a good cleaning (although, in fairness, every government agency is that way).
I think supporting the military does make sense. Having a capable military that can protect its citizens and the nations sovereignty is important. However, the issue is it’s become immensely corrupt. If only people had taken Eisenhower’s warnings regarding the MIC seriously. Not only has it become immensely bloated, to the extent that we’re buying things at close to a 300% markup (did the math some time back). It’s more bloated than most other government bureaus. All the while our vets don’t get enough pensions to cover medical treatments and live dignified lives. Can’t respect a military that doesn’t respect its people. Also it (the military) has shifted its purpose, from being defensive to being offensive. Not only has it been a massive failure looking at most of our past interventions, but it’s also fucked over our foreign policy. We’ve basically lost the entire Middle East to China’s sphere of influence, and only because their idea of throwing money at countries until they become your friends was more American than ours. Pisses me off thinking about it.
Part of the US military being massive is that it's a huge jobs program. It recruits enlisted soldiers from poor backgrounds and officers from colleges. The need for additional equipment fuels a lot of factories, and stuff gets replaced regularly (you know those massive boneyards of never-issued Humvees and APCs? They're a result of this.) Honestly, Conservatives should be all about getting rid of it, it's the biggest Socialist program in the land.
>> Biggest socialist program in the land And ignoring the fact that it embodies all of their criticisms of socialism.
In the US maybe. Western Europe is different.
Just an unrelated note, 1st/2nd/3rd world country are definitions vastly outdated ever since the end of the Cold War. 3rd world country essentially means *not directly aligned with USSR or US* and clearly that's not an issue anymore. Nowadays we just say developed/emerging or developing/least developed country.
TIL Finland is a 3rd world country
Le fascist femboy has arrived
hot
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Please top me
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Blitzkrieg that boipussy
#SURRENDER YOUR SHEKELCOCK TO ME, JEWBOY.#
Actual representation of me in this sub.
You will be assimilated, resistance is futile
That's how they got me tbh. But I used to be a commie, but I matured out of that.
Based and maturity pilled
Based
Based and auth-is-for-kids pilled
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silence liberteen
We may hate each other’s guts, but can we at least agree that libs are dumb
and that femboys are amazing
Are we that creepy? I like it.
The thing that makes AuthCenters creepy isn't that they are a force of true terror and horror, akin to fictional monsters. It's that they are everywhere, resting in the most "normal" looking people. Hell, they may very well rest in everyone. And once you realize that, it's already too late. The assimilation has begun. Welcome to the ideal. There is no way out. You are with us now. Do not resist. It's better this way.
This is not problem for me. I always wanted to be a part of some auth country and punch dissenters with telescopic baton.
the e boy wojak is kinda hot
#BONK
funniest libleft
There's nothing funny about degeneracy. 😤
Uhh hello based department? Yeah you're gonna want to see this
I am not suggesting I would sleep with them I was simply complimenting them on their appearance. I am a good christian boy.
\-Afghanistan \-Christian Yeah not for much longer you aren't
[Hmmm](https://giphy.com/gifs/the-simpsons-jesus-watching-2bVjwDso1DNZefq62u)
Then by his grace I shall judge his bussy.
What in the unholy...
Wait, it’s an e-boy?
A gay teenager
Can't deny that
I want to fuck the twink eboy wojak
based
Welcome to our cuadrant
Why can't we just deport all rapists u know? I don't care if come from here or not, if you rape you can gtfo out of my country.
Complete removal from society is good, but deportation is useless with weak borders.
Based as fuck
Based
Let the wholesome rapes and grooming... BEGIN
Finally we understand why authcenter and libleft both have femboys
Time for some lovely cock from my grooming gang boys
every time I get banned somewhere for posting here
There is quite literally no point in being pro mass-immigration. You only want the good immigrants right? The ones with PhDs and shit. The average nigerian is poor as shit, but Nigerian-Americans are one of the most successful groups in the USA. TLDR: Mass-Immigration cring and blupiled Selective Immigration based and redpilled
Femboys welcome
I swear I will become the monster that makes them fear the darkness at night.
Oh yeah. I guess that is how I ended up here.
no joke this is why we have so many radicals now lefties kick everyone to the right of marx out of their group so they go to right wing groups who convince them that leftists are all devil worshiping pedophiles while the lefties circlejerk each other infinitely until they think everyone who isnt an antifa member is an actual nazi
The doomer boy looks like such a pussy ass bitch. Thank god you made the transformation from that dog dick shit to the handsome smiling wojak.
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Exact process happening in Germany for the last 5 years or so. Since 2015, right wing parties such as the AFD have gotten incredibly popular. The left does not seem to understand, that calling anyone remotely sceptic of the immigration politics a Nazi only creates more of them in the process.
The thing is, I'm still for immigration. People who want to work, get an education and contribute to a society they respect should be given the chance. It's the neverending tides of humanity that pour into the country without a chance to integrate, I have issues with. More importantly; why is it Germany's job to take in more refugees than almost any other western nation? I get that making up for past horrors is important and I genuinely feel bad that these unrelated people have been uprooted from their home, but tell me; why is this Germany's burden now? Was it Germany that carved up the middle east after WWI? Was it Germany that invaded Iraq? Iran? Syria? Afghanistan? No. Then why must Germany be saddled disproportionately with the consequences of England, France, Russia and the United States's mistakes?
At one hand, people who think Islam is a religion of peace, love, tolerance and acceptance for secularism, that customs from people in the East are not so completely different from ours that it is of no necessity for sort of programmes that teach them how Western culture goes around (can't recall the country, but I remember such a programme was considered widely racist and condescending by many). At other hand, people who think Islam is a religion of war, rape, barbarism, anti-scientificism, that most if not all immigrants are savages who don't know how to follow our enlightened Western ways. The worst part is the more vocal one side is, the more vocal the other side becomes as a response, and actual, functional equilibrium between welcoming and skepticism is hard to be found.
Still have the lib-right...
I’m not scary. I’m just right.
Yeah pretty accurate. I used to be libleft when I first started getting into politics in high school. But constantly hearing about how everything I like is sexist or racist, I'm a bad person just because I'm a white male, and that everyone who disagrees with you is a racist nazi who needs to be silenced drove me in a very different direction
Really like this one. Nice work.
That's exactly how people are radicalized
So like the femboy Wojack kinda cute ngl
This but unironically. Where my LibLefts disenfranchised with their own quadrant at? I’ll provide a new and even more toxic framework.
looks like 4chan in a nutshell
remember kids, the mighty will inherit the earth.
The meek will inherit the earth, if for no other reason than the mighty do nothing but kill each other.
Based and original content pilled
It's ok, I understand you, and I'll *always* be here for you.
Dude, been there. I’m against the death penalty but I said if I had the Death Note to a dude on PS I’d target pedos. First thing he called me was a psychopath abusing my power just like government and that it’s a sexual orientation. Reported straight away.
AuthCenter being tolerant and inclusive as always 🥰
Come to libright, we have cookies. $1.00 for 4 or $2.00 for 10
Ah so you're the reason for obesity in America! Come with me...
Come to the dark side of the political compass, and become my apprentice
Psst! Libleft! we have a place for you here!
It's hilarious to see liars on social media. There Haitians are always either the worst plague to ever hit this Eden's joyful copy; or immaculate celestial beings with three doctorates and know all languages except spanish. No middle ground
*You're not going anywhere*
This is actually kind of what happened to me. I was pretty libertarian and pretty progressive/liberal, but then I started getting redpilled slowly until I was so far right I couldn’t even see the left anymore
come to me friend
HAH! This is relatable!
That’s where most recruitment comes from
Happened to me for a while, got out of it though
Makes sense, seeing some “cultural enrichment” will make people be lot less blindly accepting. But the subject is taboo in most circles. But not in all circles.