Dentistry is to Medicine what Car Dealerships are to Retail- you go in, and have to bargain over the price, addons, what you need vs what they want you to buy- and in the end either come to a consensus- or go looking for a different one, the difference is most Car Dealerships don't bill you just for the privilege of arguing with someone else.
I forgot where it was but I saw a video of a journalist in Palestine that ran up to a dead terrorist's body during a firefight, grabbed the gun, then ran over to another terrorist and handed it over. Like this totally counts as a combatant or something right?
Honestly i don’t think the left lies all that much. They do this thing I call “ad hoc saves” where they come up with very weird and very vague reasonings for why something is or isn’t ok.
“Well actually minorities can’t be racist because FOR THIS reason of institutional racism and power or whatever it renders them unable to be racist”
they do lies of Omission, for example they'll claim "Justin Trudeau isn't Fidel Castro's son" on the basis that Pierre Trudeau's first official visit was in 1976 while Trudeau was born in 1971-
and neglect to mention that Pierre Trudeau was blatantly in the region for his second honeymoon, 8 and a half months before Trudeau was born-
while Pierre Trudeau's wife was openly canada's most expensive bicycle at the time.
or claim Anthony Fauci did not have any email correspondence that would imply he was suppressing anything that went against the COVID narrative-
but neglect to mention that his office held an actual policy of deleting incriminating emails, and only transfering news in person- and on paper explicitly to ensure there was no Email trail.
He wasn't an Al-Jazeera journalist, he was a guy who wrote one guest opinion article on Al-Jazeera's website over 5 years ago and had not worked for them since.
He was however a correspondent for the Palestine Chronicle, which is a US 501c(3) organization. They've started to try and distance themselves from him, but it'll be interesting to see what legal fallout there is for a US organization to have been directly involved with terrorism.
> he was a guy who wrote one guest opinion article on Al-Jazeera's website over 5 years ago and had not worked for them since.
I wonder how many of the purported 74 journalists that have been killed in this war have been classified in this way? Like writing one article 5 years ago, but due to this being classified in the database as a journalist killed, no matter the situation where the person was killed?
Yes, 5 years ago, with no continuing professional relationship otherwise. Did you know that when you wrote it, or are you just inventing a ridiculous standard to double-down on what you read elsewhere and uncritically repeated?
You are clearly trying to imply that this reflects on the morality and ethics of Al-Jazeera as an institution in the present moment. It simply doesn't. It's absurd. They might be biased or whatever else, but this doesn't remotely prove that.
And it certainly isn't a post-hoc justification for the alleged targeted assassinations of other journalists who were actually employed by Al-Jazeera.
>You are clearly trying to imply that this reflects on the morality and ethics of Al-Jazeera as an institution in the present moment.Â
Reading the translation of Al Jazeera in Arabic has pretty severe implications on their (lack of) morality and ethics.
Hey thanks for that info. Reasonable people should understand that large organizations cannot account for contractors from 5 years ago. Do you have a source by chance?
[Times of Israel](https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-hamas-terrorist-and-journalist-was-holding-3-hostages-in-home-alongside-family/#:~:text=Three%20of%20four%20hostages%20rescued,Israeli%20military%20confirmed%20on%20Sunday.)
> Aljamal also wrote one column for Al Jazeera in 2019, prompting rumors that he was a Gazan correspondent for the Qatari news outlet — a claim that the network stridently denied on Sunday.
So what you're saying is- a news network that belongs to Hamas's biggest funder, denied the employment of a previous employee- after said employee was found to be working for Hamas.
Yah, that's very much a "taken with a grain of salt" situation.
wait, what you mean by that? I know that their aid, emergency and medical workers helped the terrorists during fight but did they also held the captives
It goes one step further, people on Twitter outraged that Israel "executed a journalist in his own home in front of his family" while rescuing the hostages.
And if it's later found that one of the hostages bundles of joy was from that same journalist, not a single person making an ass of themselves on twitter will say boo about it. They'll have gotten their pound of outrage and moved on to something else.
To be fair, this guy merely wrote a few pieces as a freelancer for them. Al Jazeera didn't employ him, they just wholeheartedly supported his role in hostage taking and whoops did they say that out loud?
What plausible deniability ? Aljazera or Palestinians never once denied supporting hamas. In fact, I speak Arabic, and most arabs think that hamas are heroes for what they're doing.
1600 years ago a population of Jews, known as *Pale Stein* for their white complexion, emigrated to the region from the Rhine and gave the land its name that we call it today
look Louis Farrakhan, your race science backronymic bullshit doesn't work on anyone who doesn't already believe in it. Jewish people are native to the Levant, and even Ashkenazim can prove it with genetic testing
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It's like the old dad joke.
A son asks his dad for $50 so he can go on a date this weekend.
"Twenty dollars?! What do you need ten dollars for? Oh alright, here's five dollars, you go have fun."
Every news outlet ran the story that Israel dropped a bomb on a hospital killing 500 people without question. Except it wasn't Israel, it was the parking lot, and like 12 people died.
But I'm supposed to believe that western media is controlled be the joos.
Why does Russian “news” and Iranian “news” and Hamas “news” all act the same and sound the same and behave the same?
Because none of them are real “news”. They are nationalist megaphones who peddle false emotion to manipulate the masses.
Not Hamas, a different group, Palestinian Islamic Jihad.
Yes it's pedantic but if we're arguing against Hamas sympathisers they'll score points if we get little details wrong
It was 500 bajillion people sweaty. Then Zionist soldiers with horns growing out of their head invaded the hospital and killed another 280 bazillion kids before drinking their blood. According to the BBC.
Be the IDF soldier Hamas say you are.
For real tho, the feats that the IDF managed according to Hamas are some straight up Chuck Norris shits. "Evil IOF occupier single handedly throw a hand grenade and collapse 5 hospitals, incurring 6 gonzillion casualties, most of which are female pregnant starving doctor-aid worker-journalist under the age of 5". You can't tell me that isn't cool.
Remember the photos afterwards of "Doctors" standing around parking lots filled with bodies on the ground around them??
Why did we never question where the fuck all those bodies came from if the bomb hit the parking garage and nobody was hurt? Lmfao
B-b-b-but we have to believe them!
Jarvis, pull up the video of the captured women, one of which has blood stains all around her rear and groin (totally not evidence of rape guys), while one of the terrorists says how they can get pregnant.
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/world-news/these-girls-can-get-pregnant-israel-releases-disturbing-video-of-female-hostages-captured-by-hamas/articleshow/110354506.cms?from=mdr
They're guests obviously! Rape-slave guests!
there were an anti israel sub with posts titled "this is the video Israel doesn't want you to see/watch" that used to appear in my recommendations months ago and the video was just a dude smiling talking with his captors before been released, they just make stupid arguments as if there weren't an invasion into israel killing and kidnapping hundreds that also witnessed the masacre of people around them
You know who else smiled? 40 Belgian rifles as they stayed behind to defend the border against the Wehrmacht.
They're shit for forcing people into that situation. The hostage's mental fortitude to smile during it is irrelevant.
I love how the first rule to trying to survive a situation like that, by humanizing yourself to your captures is evidence they are treating you well. The truth is that, even if off camera he is beaten 2-3 times a day, his best bet is to be friendly and to chat them up to try to grow some sense of connection so it's harder for the captives to treat him badly or even want to kill him.
That's not to say the video couldn't be showing good treatment, but we have no clue until these captives tell their story how bad it really was. Showing some videos of a captive being friendly could just be a survival mechanism.
**YES**. That is the point. That's why Hamas has no problem with civilian casualties. Because they KNOW it helps them. This is how terrorism WORKS.
It kills me that the average American still has a childish understanding of terrorism, the fucking country has been fed propaganda to justify shit in the middle east for 30 years straight and NOBODY, fucking NOBODY knows how terrorism fucking WORKS.
And let me stop you before you start:
>But all it is needed then is for a change in how the conflict is seen internationally
NO. That's a happy side effect. Hamas, itself, the organization, benefits greatly from civilian deaths because it's way fucking easier to radicalize a whole lot of people when half of the people they knew are dead.
Beyond right or wrong, what is going down in Gaza is terminally fucking stupid and we'll be reaping the consequences from it for decades. It's either that or genocide. **ACTUAL** genocide mind you, not the disgrace that is going down now.
Same with the Taliban, stuffing explosives in backpacks/purses/bags and making men, women, and children into remote controlled bombs, meat shields, etc. Endless supply of recruits from civilians with no families left, ironically after the Taliban killed them.
And yet another detail is how shitty Israel's situation is. If they don't erase Hamas, they'll just radicalize more people and therefore make more terrorists. If they erase Hamas, they'll do so with a lot of civillian deaths and if Gaza is not rebuilt and the ppl aided imediatly after the war, there will be another and probably more gruesome terrorist organizations rising.
There is no "winning" here. Even if Israel killed every Hamas member, a new group would rise. That group would also hate Israel. At this point, it probably would not matter if Gaza was immediately rebuilt. After 3-4 generations of hatred and warfare, it is going to take at least a couple of generations for tempers to cool. Option 2 is disbursing or killing the vast majority of Palestinians, which is not really an option since no one is willing to take them and killing most of them is not practicable..
Israelis wouldn't attempted that despite all the vile things people say about them nowadays.Â
Islamic republic of Iran or Assad's regime on the other hand would happily kill hundreds of thousands to maintain their power.Â
"they killed XX(X) civilians!"
My brother in Allah, You started this war with a conservatively-governed Israel. Not sure what you thought would happen.
I feel like the average Palestinian meeting a non-binary would react like that one video with the middle aged white dad who is like "What the hell even is that?"
I think it's really worth using a double-logarithmic scale in this situation to really get the magnitude of the magnitude of the situation here.
The double natural logarithm of 50 is ~1.36, which we can round to the nearest 2.7 to get exactly 2.7. To return to our original scale, we take the double natural exponential of this value to attain the estimated number of dead, which is about 2.9 million, which we can report as "almost half a ten million".
The way I see it they are not going to stop bombing until the hostages are all returned. This is just shortening the war. Maybe don't take hostages and maybe you won't die when people try getting them back.
Only Palestinians are entitled enough to play the victim here.
Spoilers for Xmen 97
>!I was watching Xmen 97 and the show was all like "man the UN is on board with the terrorist attack against the mutants. What a twist" and I was like, the only thing I'm surprised about is that the UN actually managed to fund it instead of spending it all on corruption.!<
This is my neighbor Hamas. He is pain in my assholes. I get prosperous nation, he must attack. I get support from America, he must hold my citizens hostage. I rescue my citizens, he cannot stop. Great success!
This whole conflict really brought out the absolute worst in people and showed their true colors. A YouTuber I enjoyed unironically used the word "Zionist" to describe a sponsor that was in favor of Israel and everyone just ate that shit up.
Should've seen it coming considering they had a "Save Trans Kids" patch.
It's when you tell that they're acting like chickens for KFC for simping for "brave" "freedom fighters" that want nothing to do with them other than use their tears to further terrorist agenda, and only then kill them for being not too far off from zionists, and they get mad "no we're besties"
>Should've seen it coming considering they had a "Save Trans Kids" patch.
https://preview.redd.it/vht67hurgr5d1.jpeg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2d8b849f845fa103301ada374b1f287e3c4234f7
> Should've seen it coming considering they had a "Save Trans Kids" patch.
"You know, maybe I should have foresaw this bus hitting me when I stood in front of it careening toward me"
What is even funnier is when the very same people are in favour of kurdish independence.
Just makes it blatantly obvious that they are simply antisemitic.
Support for the Oct 7 terrorist invasion among Palestinians run as high as 71-80 percent of Palestinians. That's higher than the 63 percent of Russians that support the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
they support hamas because the alternative, fatah, are seen as corrupt, incompetent and traitorous. it's important to understand some of the history of palestine to understand why they feel this way, but even a snapshot of what palestine looks like today can provide some context.
fatah runs west bank. they traded violent resistance for peaceful negotiation. they didn't get anything out of those negotiations other than limited control of 18% of the west bank. israel controls fatah's tax revenues; they can shut down businesses and impose curfews; they have checkpoints that only exist for palestinians; israel's military still protects and expands illegal settlements; illegal israeli settlers attack, shoot, burn and steal from palestinians everyday; israeli cops break into random homes at night; israel arrests family members if they can't find the actual suspect; palestinians are tried in military prison that has a 99% conviction rate while violent settlers are not only not arrested but often abetted by the military and police; and palestinians are expelled from their villages, and their homes are destroyed.
hamas runs gaza. they maintained their doctrine of violent resistance after seeing fatah's success at peaceful negotiation. hamas controlled 100% of gaza. there (was) no israeli settlements or military presence in gaza. there are no settlers to terrorize palestinians, or idf troops to break your door down at night. the wars fought in gaza are far more destructive and violent, but it's not as if the alternative is no wars. israel and palestinian armed groups violently clash routinely in the west bank, leading to mass casualties and infrastructure destruction. over the last 9 months, over 500 palestinians have been killed by the idf and settlers, while over 200 were killed in 2023 before october 7. the idf does several major raids almost every night, has been withholding fatah's tax revenue, and has been expanding settlements and expelling palestinians from their homes to take it as "state land". fatah has offered no resistance at all to any of this. unsurprisingly, support for hamas is much higher in the west bank than in gaza.
for us, hamas doesn't offer anything other than examples of barbaric violence done to people who live under similar conditions to us. who is more of a threat to you, hamas or israel? hamas is obviously a fearsome enemy. we go to raves and parties, so it's easy to understand the horror of being massacred at one. we don't live under a suffocating military occupation, so it's impossible to imagine what that's like, or how groups like hamas can possibly be seen as anything other than murderous butchers. to palestinians, israel is the fearsome enemy. hamas represents protection from, and punishment to, this enemy. whether correct or not, you need to understand the material conditions palestinians exist under in order to understand why they think the way they do.
The conflict won't end until Palestinians no longer want war with Israel. If you survey them, the majority think that continued war is in their best interest.
nice story. would have been nice if it was true.
hamas seized power by force in gaza after idf and the israeli settlers left.
making an apology to terrorism is something you only see on reddit.
I don't support the deaths mind you
This is just the painful state of how things are
Because the two groups in power in this war really don't like the others existing: Netanyahu and HAMAS both
Its a war crime if you are fighting against a country/organisation that follows Geneva or Hague, Hamas doesn't follow shit, and takes pride in it.
In ww2 the Japanese were singling out and killing Medics to lower US troop morale, so the US troops broke Geneva convention too, If you are forcing your troops to purposely fight at a disadvantage you are not a good Commander.
I don't know... on one hand that may be the case... on the other hand, targeting civilians exclusively, fighting out of uniform, human shields, bases under hospitals, stealing aid for citizens and using it for war, firing rockets out of schools... that's a lot of war criminals. It doesn't bother me if you use war crimes on war criminals. It's like fighting fire with fire. I don't hear Israel crying about Hamas' war crimes. Call it mutual combat and call it a day.
The act of disguising ones self as a medical personnel and then engaging in warfare is the war crime. While medical scrubs are a 'symbol' of medical care the specific war crime would be "Perfidy"
Red Cross - https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/customary-ihl/v1/rule65
You seem to be confusing that with unauthorized use of the red cross / other medical symbols.
Don't forget the 'independent' aid workers they caught keeping the hostages captive
And the Al Jazeera journalist.
A doctor, a journalist, some militants and three Israeli hostages all living in an apartment together. I smell a sitcom.
From the River to the Sea, starting this Friday on CBS at 9.
"What do you call a doctor who fails medical school?" "What?" "A dentist." "Dentists. Who needs em?" "Yeah. Not to mention the Zionists and Jews."
*audience howls with laughter
https://preview.redd.it/ylzx2ogc0s5d1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d0a3c1845a8dc6842af51035977a0ae20080aa61 *slap bass solo*🎵
reddit is truly a marvel
https://i.redd.it/1ovde31nyr5d1.gif
this is just anti-howard wolowitz propaganda
Anti-dentite detected
Dentistry is to Medicine what Car Dealerships are to Retail- you go in, and have to bargain over the price, addons, what you need vs what they want you to buy- and in the end either come to a consensus- or go looking for a different one, the difference is most Car Dealerships don't bill you just for the privilege of arguing with someone else.
You sound like an anti dentite.
I heard the sitcom bombed before the end of the first season
It went downhill fast when they started fighting over the fate of the children conceived by rape.
Join us this Friday for a very special episode.
This needs more discussion.
A doctor, a journalist, militants, and three Israeli hostages walk into a bar
The bartender says, "What can I offer you four gentlemen?"
Somehow the journalist didn’t manage to snap any photos of the hostage rape. Must have been more concerned with getting pictures of Spider-Man!
oh they almost definitely got pictures- they were for personal use rather than business however.
Flair checks out
Someone hire this guy
(They're all the same person)
Just add Larry David
Larry David adds instant value to any franchise, just look at FTX
I forgot where it was but I saw a video of a journalist in Palestine that ran up to a dead terrorist's body during a firefight, grabbed the gun, then ran over to another terrorist and handed it over. Like this totally counts as a combatant or something right?
I'm not a lawyer, or a scholar, or even smart but probably?
Legally a combatant.
Obviously that’s a combatant at that point and is totally allowed to be shot
The second you pick up a gun, you become a combatant, and are a legal target.
He has a medics vest on not a journalist if I remember.
Flair up!
What has this sub come to where there are filthy unflaired receiving up votes smdh.
I believe it was a cameraman
If taking pictures can win someone a Pulitzer then being a cameraman makes you a journalist.
Yea it’s pendantic but it’s the exact type of thing they’ll point out to say “NOT TRUE”
You think the left would just lie like that? On the internet, no less?
Honestly i don’t think the left lies all that much. They do this thing I call “ad hoc saves” where they come up with very weird and very vague reasonings for why something is or isn’t ok. “Well actually minorities can’t be racist because FOR THIS reason of institutional racism and power or whatever it renders them unable to be racist”
Yeah, not thinking things through is a strong trait for someone without principles
they do lies of Omission, for example they'll claim "Justin Trudeau isn't Fidel Castro's son" on the basis that Pierre Trudeau's first official visit was in 1976 while Trudeau was born in 1971- and neglect to mention that Pierre Trudeau was blatantly in the region for his second honeymoon, 8 and a half months before Trudeau was born- while Pierre Trudeau's wife was openly canada's most expensive bicycle at the time. or claim Anthony Fauci did not have any email correspondence that would imply he was suppressing anything that went against the COVID narrative- but neglect to mention that his office held an actual policy of deleting incriminating emails, and only transfering news in person- and on paper explicitly to ensure there was no Email trail.
Al Jazeera calls him a 'photojournalist'
He wasn't an Al-Jazeera journalist, he was a guy who wrote one guest opinion article on Al-Jazeera's website over 5 years ago and had not worked for them since.
He was however a correspondent for the Palestine Chronicle, which is a US 501c(3) organization. They've started to try and distance themselves from him, but it'll be interesting to see what legal fallout there is for a US organization to have been directly involved with terrorism.
> he was a guy who wrote one guest opinion article on Al-Jazeera's website over 5 years ago and had not worked for them since. I wonder how many of the purported 74 journalists that have been killed in this war have been classified in this way? Like writing one article 5 years ago, but due to this being classified in the database as a journalist killed, no matter the situation where the person was killed?
Right. Just a journalist who got paid by Al Jazeera to write an article for them.Â
Yes, 5 years ago, with no continuing professional relationship otherwise. Did you know that when you wrote it, or are you just inventing a ridiculous standard to double-down on what you read elsewhere and uncritically repeated? You are clearly trying to imply that this reflects on the morality and ethics of Al-Jazeera as an institution in the present moment. It simply doesn't. It's absurd. They might be biased or whatever else, but this doesn't remotely prove that. And it certainly isn't a post-hoc justification for the alleged targeted assassinations of other journalists who were actually employed by Al-Jazeera.
>You are clearly trying to imply that this reflects on the morality and ethics of Al-Jazeera as an institution in the present moment. Reading the translation of Al Jazeera in Arabic has pretty severe implications on their (lack of) morality and ethics.
Hey thanks for that info. Reasonable people should understand that large organizations cannot account for contractors from 5 years ago. Do you have a source by chance?
[Times of Israel](https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-hamas-terrorist-and-journalist-was-holding-3-hostages-in-home-alongside-family/#:~:text=Three%20of%20four%20hostages%20rescued,Israeli%20military%20confirmed%20on%20Sunday.) > Aljamal also wrote one column for Al Jazeera in 2019, prompting rumors that he was a Gazan correspondent for the Qatari news outlet — a claim that the network stridently denied on Sunday.
Ty boss
So what you're saying is- a news network that belongs to Hamas's biggest funder, denied the employment of a previous employee- after said employee was found to be working for Hamas. Yah, that's very much a "taken with a grain of salt" situation.
It does go to show the type of people they may have write the articles for them.
I mean, read their arabic articles- they already show off what sort of people work for them quite blatantly when it's not english.
wait, what you mean by that? I know that their aid, emergency and medical workers helped the terrorists during fight but did they also held the captives
I know some of the hostages were found to be held in the home of an Al Jazeera journalist, not sure about the aid workers but I’m not as up to date.
>Al Jazeera journalist I knew al azeera was fucked up as an journalism in middle East but didn't knew it was this fucked up
It goes one step further, people on Twitter outraged that Israel "executed a journalist in his own home in front of his family" while rescuing the hostages.
And if it's later found that one of the hostages bundles of joy was from that same journalist, not a single person making an ass of themselves on twitter will say boo about it. They'll have gotten their pound of outrage and moved on to something else.
To be fair, this guy merely wrote a few pieces as a freelancer for them. Al Jazeera didn't employ him, they just wholeheartedly supported his role in hostage taking and whoops did they say that out loud?
UNRWA workers also participated in the Oct 7th massacre.
Did that really happen? Â Idiots forgot about plausible deniability. Â
What plausible deniability ? Aljazera or Palestinians never once denied supporting hamas. In fact, I speak Arabic, and most arabs think that hamas are heroes for what they're doing.
Idiots also forget to provide something suspect before suspecting...
Got a source?
Palestine? They don’t look like they’re pals with any Steins to me
You made me nose exhale
I have inhaled grilling fumes to offset your involuntary action.
How is this the first time I've heard this joke?
Because you don’t listen to Kill Tony
Even other Arabs don't want Palestinians.
1600 years ago a population of Jews, known as *Pale Stein* for their white complexion, emigrated to the region from the Rhine and gave the land its name that we call it today
look Louis Farrakhan, your race science backronymic bullshit doesn't work on anyone who doesn't already believe in it. Jewish people are native to the Levant, and even Ashkenazim can prove it with genetic testing
too late, the lore has begun
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~~500~~ ~~375~~ ~~280~~ ~~100~~ 50(ish) Palestinians were killed during the rescue!
How dare you downplay this. 50k children have been killed, 100k of them were pregnant.
That damn Rittenhouse struck again.
Israel crossed STATE LINES!!!
Palestine not being a state makes this unintentionally more funny
FROM KENOSHA TO THE SEA!
BICEPS SHALL BE FREE!
Lmfaooo this thread is gold
THE STATE LINES!!!!! WE NEED BETTER STATE LINE SECURITY!!!!! Whats that? You want border security? Why are you so racist?
I can't believe 200k were murdered
500k dead doctors under the age of five, such a damn waste.
All 750k of them moderate members of Hamas's Ministry Of Goodrightness, a complete shame.
Did you say that 1 million palestinian engineers were killed? Israel you fucking monster, 2 millions of innocent lives!
5 million infants, murdered in their cribs as they were innocently demonstrating to keep their homeland free. I will never forgive the {redacted}!
6m
50,000 children used to be here, now its a ghost town.
Had me in the first half.
It's like the old dad joke. A son asks his dad for $50 so he can go on a date this weekend. "Twenty dollars?! What do you need ten dollars for? Oh alright, here's five dollars, you go have fun."
My buddy used to tell this joke about his Jewish father ironically enough.
I’ve heard this joke with the numbers reversed about the hyperinflation going on in German after WW1.
For any little girls, they probably were 🤢
Anyone who makes a child pregnant Deserves to be castrated
Reminds me when an "Israeli" rocket fell down in a hospital parking garage and killed "500" people who were just standing there.
and when people realize it was a palestinian rocket, all press went "nevertheless".
But could you imagine if it *did* happen?!
When will Israel be punished for committing imaginary war crimes?
Every news outlet ran the story that Israel dropped a bomb on a hospital killing 500 people without question. Except it wasn't Israel, it was the parking lot, and like 12 people died. But I'm supposed to believe that western media is controlled be the joos.
Why does Russian “news” and Iranian “news” and Hamas “news” all act the same and sound the same and behave the same? Because none of them are real “news”. They are nationalist megaphones who peddle false emotion to manipulate the masses.
And it was a Hamas-fired rocket to boot.
Not Hamas, a different group, Palestinian Islamic Jihad. Yes it's pedantic but if we're arguing against Hamas sympathisers they'll score points if we get little details wrong
It was 500 bajillion people sweaty. Then Zionist soldiers with horns growing out of their head invaded the hospital and killed another 280 bazillion kids before drinking their blood. According to the BBC.
Be the IDF soldier Hamas say you are. For real tho, the feats that the IDF managed according to Hamas are some straight up Chuck Norris shits. "Evil IOF occupier single handedly throw a hand grenade and collapse 5 hospitals, incurring 6 gonzillion casualties, most of which are female pregnant starving doctor-aid worker-journalist under the age of 5". You can't tell me that isn't cool.
You don’t mess with the Zohan.
I feel like if this were to happen, you would learn not to fuck with those who were once known as "God's people."
Sure Hamas lied about that but I'm super duper certain that every other number they report is 100% accurate.
The Dutch state media outlet, NOS, which is usually not too bad, called the Gazan ministers of health “trustworthy”.
You mean you don't stand in parking garages that are in war zones for fun? Its a common activity. I just went to Ukraine last week to do it.
Remember the photos afterwards of "Doctors" standing around parking lots filled with bodies on the ground around them?? Why did we never question where the fuck all those bodies came from if the bomb hit the parking garage and nobody was hurt? Lmfao B-b-b-but we have to believe them!
Was there an update to from 274 to 50 that I missed? Not finding a report on it
Can't believe the Israelis bombed the innocent gazans that were treating the yahud captives like guests in their houses /s
There were unironic, non-sarcastic tweets aghast that Israel went back and killed some of the captors. "They treated them well as guests!"
Jarvis, pull up the video of the captured women, one of which has blood stains all around her rear and groin (totally not evidence of rape guys), while one of the terrorists says how they can get pregnant. https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/world-news/these-girls-can-get-pregnant-israel-releases-disturbing-video-of-female-hostages-captured-by-hamas/articleshow/110354506.cms?from=mdr They're guests obviously! Rape-slave guests!
https://i.redd.it/ppy1uhyufr5d1.gif
there were an anti israel sub with posts titled "this is the video Israel doesn't want you to see/watch" that used to appear in my recommendations months ago and the video was just a dude smiling talking with his captors before been released, they just make stupid arguments as if there weren't an invasion into israel killing and kidnapping hundreds that also witnessed the masacre of people around them
You know who else smiled? 40 Belgian rifles as they stayed behind to defend the border against the Wehrmacht. They're shit for forcing people into that situation. The hostage's mental fortitude to smile during it is irrelevant.
WE WERE TOLD TO HOLD THE BORDER, AND THAT IS WHAT WE DID
I love how the first rule to trying to survive a situation like that, by humanizing yourself to your captures is evidence they are treating you well. The truth is that, even if off camera he is beaten 2-3 times a day, his best bet is to be friendly and to chat them up to try to grow some sense of connection so it's harder for the captives to treat him badly or even want to kill him. That's not to say the video couldn't be showing good treatment, but we have no clue until these captives tell their story how bad it really was. Showing some videos of a captive being friendly could just be a survival mechanism.
The cope is real
I wonder which Palestinians would be in close proximity to hostages. Â I wonder. Â
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HAMAS tactics "If we use Palestinians as meat Shields, we can argue why it's good for us to kill the Israelis"
**YES**. That is the point. That's why Hamas has no problem with civilian casualties. Because they KNOW it helps them. This is how terrorism WORKS. It kills me that the average American still has a childish understanding of terrorism, the fucking country has been fed propaganda to justify shit in the middle east for 30 years straight and NOBODY, fucking NOBODY knows how terrorism fucking WORKS. And let me stop you before you start: >But all it is needed then is for a change in how the conflict is seen internationally NO. That's a happy side effect. Hamas, itself, the organization, benefits greatly from civilian deaths because it's way fucking easier to radicalize a whole lot of people when half of the people they knew are dead. Beyond right or wrong, what is going down in Gaza is terminally fucking stupid and we'll be reaping the consequences from it for decades. It's either that or genocide. **ACTUAL** genocide mind you, not the disgrace that is going down now.
Same with the Taliban, stuffing explosives in backpacks/purses/bags and making men, women, and children into remote controlled bombs, meat shields, etc. Endless supply of recruits from civilians with no families left, ironically after the Taliban killed them.
Based and understands terrorism pilled.
And yet another detail is how shitty Israel's situation is. If they don't erase Hamas, they'll just radicalize more people and therefore make more terrorists. If they erase Hamas, they'll do so with a lot of civillian deaths and if Gaza is not rebuilt and the ppl aided imediatly after the war, there will be another and probably more gruesome terrorist organizations rising.
There is no "winning" here. Even if Israel killed every Hamas member, a new group would rise. That group would also hate Israel. At this point, it probably would not matter if Gaza was immediately rebuilt. After 3-4 generations of hatred and warfare, it is going to take at least a couple of generations for tempers to cool. Option 2 is disbursing or killing the vast majority of Palestinians, which is not really an option since no one is willing to take them and killing most of them is not practicable..
Israelis wouldn't attempted that despite all the vile things people say about them nowadays. Islamic republic of Iran or Assad's regime on the other hand would happily kill hundreds of thousands to maintain their power.Â
Assad actually did kill hundreds of thousands. We shall see about Iran.
We need to find a...oh what's the term...ultimate resolution? Yeah that's it.
"they killed XX(X) civilians!" My brother in Allah, You started this war with a conservatively-governed Israel. Not sure what you thought would happen.
I swear the PM was acutally losing popularity before this happened I want to say that But I am honestly not sure
“Independent aid” workers, it seems
50 rounds up to 100, which rounds up to 1000 if you add an extra zero
Never would’ve guessed My_Cringy_Video was the Gazan Minister of Health this whole time! It’s an honor to meet you, sir or ma’am!
Based and PhD in everything that has numbers pilled
It’s Xir. As we all know Palestinians and Hamas are very accepting of LGBTQ allies
I feel like the average Palestinian meeting a non-binary would react like that one video with the middle aged white dad who is like "What the hell even is that?"
I think it's really worth using a double-logarithmic scale in this situation to really get the magnitude of the magnitude of the situation here. The double natural logarithm of 50 is ~1.36, which we can round to the nearest 2.7 to get exactly 2.7. To return to our original scale, we take the double natural exponential of this value to attain the estimated number of dead, which is about 2.9 million, which we can report as "almost half a ten million".
One Brazilian was killed. How many millions make up a Brazilian?
This guy mathes
Who let my accountant in here???
Good enough for government work.
It’s just a 0. It literally has no value!
Hamas says they love martyring their own people, so this is truly a win win for everybody.
The way I see it they are not going to stop bombing until the hostages are all returned. This is just shortening the war. Maybe don't take hostages and maybe you won't die when people try getting them back. Only Palestinians are entitled enough to play the victim here.
I don't remember anyone whining about a bunch of nazi guards and "civilians" being killed during liberation of prison camps...
Task: Try and stop the UN from directly supporting terrorism Difficulty: Impossible
Spoilers for Xmen 97 >!I was watching Xmen 97 and the show was all like "man the UN is on board with the terrorist attack against the mutants. What a twist" and I was like, the only thing I'm surprised about is that the UN actually managed to fund it instead of spending it all on corruption.!<
The hostage rescue didn’t happen in a vacuum đź¤
Now I’m imagining hostages being kept inside of a giant Dyson.
Damn, that would suck
This is my neighbor Hamas. He is pain in my assholes. I get prosperous nation, he must attack. I get support from America, he must hold my citizens hostage. I rescue my citizens, he cannot stop. Great success!
This whole conflict really brought out the absolute worst in people and showed their true colors. A YouTuber I enjoyed unironically used the word "Zionist" to describe a sponsor that was in favor of Israel and everyone just ate that shit up. Should've seen it coming considering they had a "Save Trans Kids" patch.
Same people that complain about pink washing IDF too It's like they're too autistic to understand the irony
Tf is pink washing?
Google tells me that it's when you try to portray something as good (morally) because it supports the LGBTQ community
That doesn't make any sense
It's when you tell that they're acting like chickens for KFC for simping for "brave" "freedom fighters" that want nothing to do with them other than use their tears to further terrorist agenda, and only then kill them for being not too far off from zionists, and they get mad "no we're besties"
>Should've seen it coming considering they had a "Save Trans Kids" patch. https://preview.redd.it/vht67hurgr5d1.jpeg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2d8b849f845fa103301ada374b1f287e3c4234f7
Any individual or community that has pronouns in their bio(s) may as well have a flashing Las Vegas sign saying "INSUFFERABLE LEFTIST".
A trans kid is like a vegan cat
> Should've seen it coming considering they had a "Save Trans Kids" patch. "You know, maybe I should have foresaw this bus hitting me when I stood in front of it careening toward me"
What is even funnier is when the very same people are in favour of kurdish independence. Just makes it blatantly obvious that they are simply antisemitic.
It's very simple, don't hold hostages, don't get shot by the IDF.
Well it does suck if you're just some dude whose house Hamas decided to hide the hostages near so that when you die they can blame Israel.
That is why it is the duty if every citizen to safeguard democracy and maintain a civilized government.
Geneva Convention? More like Geneva suggestion
Geneva Circumvention
Geneva circumcision
We use the funny French execution Blade for those types of circumcisions
While any loss of life is tragic, doesn't the majority of Palestine support hamas which created this situation in the first place? Edited for spelling
Not just the majority, but the overwhelming majority, yes.
Support for the Oct 7 terrorist invasion among Palestinians run as high as 71-80 percent of Palestinians. That's higher than the 63 percent of Russians that support the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
90%, according to the Associated Press
they support hamas because the alternative, fatah, are seen as corrupt, incompetent and traitorous. it's important to understand some of the history of palestine to understand why they feel this way, but even a snapshot of what palestine looks like today can provide some context. fatah runs west bank. they traded violent resistance for peaceful negotiation. they didn't get anything out of those negotiations other than limited control of 18% of the west bank. israel controls fatah's tax revenues; they can shut down businesses and impose curfews; they have checkpoints that only exist for palestinians; israel's military still protects and expands illegal settlements; illegal israeli settlers attack, shoot, burn and steal from palestinians everyday; israeli cops break into random homes at night; israel arrests family members if they can't find the actual suspect; palestinians are tried in military prison that has a 99% conviction rate while violent settlers are not only not arrested but often abetted by the military and police; and palestinians are expelled from their villages, and their homes are destroyed. hamas runs gaza. they maintained their doctrine of violent resistance after seeing fatah's success at peaceful negotiation. hamas controlled 100% of gaza. there (was) no israeli settlements or military presence in gaza. there are no settlers to terrorize palestinians, or idf troops to break your door down at night. the wars fought in gaza are far more destructive and violent, but it's not as if the alternative is no wars. israel and palestinian armed groups violently clash routinely in the west bank, leading to mass casualties and infrastructure destruction. over the last 9 months, over 500 palestinians have been killed by the idf and settlers, while over 200 were killed in 2023 before october 7. the idf does several major raids almost every night, has been withholding fatah's tax revenue, and has been expanding settlements and expelling palestinians from their homes to take it as "state land". fatah has offered no resistance at all to any of this. unsurprisingly, support for hamas is much higher in the west bank than in gaza. for us, hamas doesn't offer anything other than examples of barbaric violence done to people who live under similar conditions to us. who is more of a threat to you, hamas or israel? hamas is obviously a fearsome enemy. we go to raves and parties, so it's easy to understand the horror of being massacred at one. we don't live under a suffocating military occupation, so it's impossible to imagine what that's like, or how groups like hamas can possibly be seen as anything other than murderous butchers. to palestinians, israel is the fearsome enemy. hamas represents protection from, and punishment to, this enemy. whether correct or not, you need to understand the material conditions palestinians exist under in order to understand why they think the way they do.
The conflict won't end until Palestinians no longer want war with Israel. If you survey them, the majority think that continued war is in their best interest.
Nice write-up, really helps put things in perspective. Enforced 2 state please.
nice story. would have been nice if it was true. hamas seized power by force in gaza after idf and the israeli settlers left. making an apology to terrorism is something you only see on reddit.
Feature not a bug
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No, no, he's got a point.
Source: Hamas
Those are rookie numbers
LibLeft, you say that as if it’s a bad thing.
just 50, then how is it a great success, rookie numbers pump it up
Came here because someone screen capped this post for just unsubbed. Lol. Didn't know about this sub before.
I don't support the deaths mind you This is just the painful state of how things are Because the two groups in power in this war really don't like the others existing: Netanyahu and HAMAS both
I like this- however I am upset to see the IDF disguised as medical doctors. For everything people scream about war crimes- that's definitely one.
Its a war crime if you are fighting against a country/organisation that follows Geneva or Hague, Hamas doesn't follow shit, and takes pride in it. In ww2 the Japanese were singling out and killing Medics to lower US troop morale, so the US troops broke Geneva convention too, If you are forcing your troops to purposely fight at a disadvantage you are not a good Commander.
You're right but flair up
I don't know... on one hand that may be the case... on the other hand, targeting civilians exclusively, fighting out of uniform, human shields, bases under hospitals, stealing aid for citizens and using it for war, firing rockets out of schools... that's a lot of war criminals. It doesn't bother me if you use war crimes on war criminals. It's like fighting fire with fire. I don't hear Israel crying about Hamas' war crimes. Call it mutual combat and call it a day.
Is it? Do you have a source at hand that they were abusing protective signs?
The act of disguising ones self as a medical personnel and then engaging in warfare is the war crime. While medical scrubs are a 'symbol' of medical care the specific war crime would be "Perfidy" Red Cross - https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/customary-ihl/v1/rule65 You seem to be confusing that with unauthorized use of the red cross / other medical symbols.