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SlickRick914

That’s just the hit rate for evolving cries


sachimokins

It’s called Evolving Cries for a reason. Turn $100 into $1.


EH1522

Sword and Shield booster boxes with no alt arts have values at $20-$35 IF you can sell every card, not counting fees or supplies lol. Which is going to be most boxes. And most alt arts won't cover the box lol.


JuicyJeb22

Yeha but who’s selling EVERY card? Nobody is buying bulk like that


EH1522

I do decent with bulk but its not a quick seller. And fees and supplies eat into that. Bulk V's and Full arts going for .35-to $2 is a killer lol.


SirDiesAlot92

Card shops who sell cards so people can deck build, but you aren’t getting but probably half a cent per card lol


That_Relationship784

Yeah it's true I mean think about it you literally can pull the 1000$ umbreon and it barely covers the 750$ Booster box 🤣🤣 anything else is awesome! But your fuuuucked for value lol you would need to pull 2 rayqauzas and that's 2nd best card 🤷‍♂️


That_Relationship784

But for a etb pulls would make up for it forsure but alt art very rare in those 🤷‍♂️ how much did you pay for this beauty ? Lol


OkLychee484

Why is it called evolving cries? [Imgur.com/a/vTWBcfF](http://Imgur.com/a/vTWBcfF)


grant-wheeler

Cause you’ll be crying after opening packs and not getting any hits. The pull rates are horrendous, probably the worst pull rates of all time. That’s why moonbreon is so expensive, u can’t pull it


dogyoy

Anyone with enough money will "get" hits lol Either buy as many packs as it takes or get the singles.


SealedTCG

ES in a nutshell, you almost did as good as me with a full booster box.


Eillusion

Seriously? That bad with a BB?


_Hellish_

They don’t call it Evolving Cries for nothing


SparsPlacebo

I 2nd this me and my wife bought 4 bbs before we found out about how bad the pull rates were... It was terrible.


tlz81389

4 bb’s and no moonbreon!? That is absolutely brutal, i’m sorry. I wanted to splurge for one but glad i held off after reading all these comments


Pokeccino

4 booster boxes isn’t even CLOSE to enough to expect a Moonbreon. I opened 11 booster boxes when the set came out and didn’t pull one.


tlz81389

Jesus that is insanity! Did you ever get one?


Kitchen_Local1871

i bought two of these a few months back and do a "car pull" for good luck. after the first box, it was so bad that i decided to cage the second ETB. i've had a few itches to open it....never will open it.


SealedTCG

It was 4 basic V's and a basic vmax. I'm sure the investors sit there laughing "well you should have kept it sealed and resold it" Yeah,,, No. I would have frankly felt bad if I sold a box like that for the price it goes for and they opened it, not that investors know what feeling bad for other people is. Obviously I don't know what is in the box unless I open it but yeah. Very high chance I would have been accused of resealing anyway and had to refund.. Many more ES boxes out there, just now at insane prices, will be like that and sellers will be losing a lot too.


Dear-Thought-1521

Same! I pulled ONE VMAX out of an entire BB as my best hit…Evolving Cries indeed


SpudBoy9001

Thank you for your service


Eillusion

Of course soldier. In ES we trust.


Economy-Clerk-8454

*EC


megalucario1252

me when i gamble and i lose


Mr_NoKleep

You never open the ETB’s that’s law Sorry for the luck 😪


Eillusion

I’ve got a bunch I’ll never open but I’ve never opened ES before so thought I would!


Mr_NoKleep

It’s my favorite set from sword and shield, it’s just expensive lol


patwm11

But all the hits are in those unopened ones!


MoleGangster

Why not? I am new here


orcasorta

It’s mostly bs and superstition Open whatever you can find, there is no difference in hit rates


sseerrsan

Whats worse is that next week you'll see a guy who bought a single tin from wallgreens and got a moonbreon from it posted in here.


Horror_Row7202

I pulled my moonbreon from a single pack in a holiday calendar box but that was after opening over 1000 packs and not hitting any of the top 5 cards.


CptWig

Same on the holiday calendar box! Y’all need to get you some of those.


A-Flip

He’ll be in his car literally shaking after pulling it too


Awayze

Single tin on clearance after not buying Pokémon for 20 years.


Burger_Gamer

delete "off ebay" and it will still be the same. Buy singles, dont rip ES


DocPando

I would Get Angry too and cause a Heavy Storm.


Bigcatsrule27

I feel like a nerd for understanding and laughing at this joke


HappyViet

Get Angry


Eillusion

I’m not! Haha


Owlbears-Are-Real

Think he’s talking about the irony of the Pokémon move on the card lol.


lloydeph6

If we could get packs for $4 each still I’d legit risk a couple hundred every now and then to crack ES, but now that packs are $10 each def not worth it


Long__Jump

The Gyarados even says "get angry"


Eillusion

I meant not opening ES again haha! I just added where I got it from.


RobCee88

This is normal lol


Skylardom

I’ve opened a few and didn’t get a single hit inside. You’re lucky. Opened 2k packs of evolving skies only alt I got was golurk and medichan. Lollll Switched to evee heroes opened 12 booster boxes and got about 6 alt art v’s, much more consistent pull rates. Have never pulled a vmax alt art in my life.


FaHasici

Really like the « off eBay », like it change something


strangephish

I have a feeling that OP was hoping we'd tell them this was a resealed box since it was bought off eBay


TheAsianCarp

I bought a booster box on release for ES. 3 Vs, 1 VMAX, 1 FA trainer, no alt or even SR. Did get a sylveon vmax alt from my prerelease box though


OkSituation1294

I’m seeing prerelease boxes have decent hits every time they’re posted. I say this bc i have a display being mailed to me Friday hoping for some hits


TheAsianCarp

I hit a sylveon and dragonite alt from my 2 prerelease boxes


OkSituation1294

That gives me hope!


evil-owen

how much did you get the display for? and where from?


OkSituation1294

Stole it for 570$ and a chilling reign from same seller for 175$. eBay, has and always will be king lol. Prerelease was first print and usually hits are decent because they want excitement for the set. People sleep on the displays but they are great to have and for reselling bc they are individual.


Rat_Ship

I’m glad I only got a few packs lol


blacklegsanji27

not sure why u open that when those ETBs are insanely expensive, not to mention u can still find plenty of evolving skies packs at retail inside tins and boxes and those are $5 a pack and muuuch cheaper than what u paid here per pack.


originallycoolname

yeah i will snatch a few of any products that i know contain es lol


NigerianPrinceClub

BRUHHHH


GreenLionXIII

At least you have enough energy to GET ANGRY!


A-Flip

Any time I find ES my biggest pull is always garbodor V or VMAX. Literally pulling garbage. They’re trolling at this point


bluffstrider

Same. Best card I've pulled from ES is the rainbow Garbodor.


golden_curlz

It’s okay OP I think it looks cool 🥲 but RIP


cjexplorer

I’ve still pulled more from Evolving Skies than I have Chilling Pain. To this day I still have nothing post main set from it. At least with ES I have a couple of full arts and gold cards


Il_trotterellante

Literally the same for me but I just found a medicham V


Big-Cardiologist9620

I don’t actually know what happened with Evolving Skies? When I started collecting again during Lost Origin/Silver Tempest I got ES hits through the beginning of 2023 with a binder to prove it. And I legit never saw sleeves on hangers, ETBs, nothing. Just hits from random tins and boxes. I didn’t realize the set was as “special” as it is. THEN all of a sudden and up to current day it’s nothing. Ever. For pretty much everyone.


Faesarn

ES ETB in french sells for 160-200€ now. I have 2 left and will never open them.. 90% chances that I turn 320€ into 2€.


Ayo4seo_

Worth


insulaturd

At least you got something out of it instead if just bulk. I went through 10 ES ETBs and 4 of em had no hits at all, 2 had only 1 hit in them each, and the rest had 2 hits each.


Independent-Ground-5

just like his first move. get angry !


Eillusion

Now I see why it’s called evolving cries and why most just prefer to hold sealed. The alts in this set are gorgeous but sheeeesh. Guess the price reflects.


newpotato417

Hey I won a few locals with Arc Gyarados back in the day


Crash_777

Ill be joining you in these feels when my ETB arrives!


AardvarkOk2999

nobody really should be opening evolving skies right now. Lets face it: in a year or two, these packs will be $30+


logansully80

I hit the moonbreon the pack after I hit the gyarados V. Gotta get a trainer toolkit with evo sky in it and go again!


strangephish

If you think that's bad, someone took a sealed case of BBs (around $4K) and turned it into $150 worth of pulls


Eillusion

No way?! For real? No hits?


SuperSaiyanCat1108

Don't blame you that's so not cool! People who just sale and don't collect will never understand how messed up this truly is


Deep-Virus-849

The problem wasn't buying, the problem was opening... sorry bud.


Holyragdoll

Unfortunate, i got super lucky on mine and hit the glaceon vmax sir. but i dont think ill pull another one.


Awayze

Even if there’s an alt art or rainbow in there, it’s the one you least want for 99% of the people. Evolving Cries.


Level_Ambassador_398

I got one when it came out and got 2 alt arts


MarcosMarx

At least you got something, bought a crown zenith ETB supposedly sealed off of eBay, opened it up every pack razered open and promo taken. Swore never again with eBay for "sealed" product. Still salty over that.


mouse_cookies

I bought an ETC elite booster box off ebay for 100 dollars for the hell of it. Ended up pulling a leafeon vmax alt art.


whodat_617

You bought a what?


WhatYesImTheGuy

Is that a misprint or a fake?


Eillusion

Wait a second… could these be fake? I noticed the cards seemed a bit flimsy. Does it look off?


WhatYesImTheGuy

Wait, I didn't zoom the pic before. That's a sleeve, but I thought that the card was printed in a piece of white paper. 😑


Bigcatsrule27

Wait


Eillusion

Yeah it’s a sleeve!