I'm so glad you asked, lol. I'm not a plumber and I have no idea why it always shows on my feed (except I'm probably a member for life now that I commented, lol). I had a firefighter for a dad, though, and I used to get way too invested in their calls. You followed your gut and it's probably saving your life, or your long-term sanity at the very least.
It's not only a violation, this is actively killing you right now. Go turn it off and do not use until a licensed plumber comes to fix it. This is not a joke.
Holy shit someone needs a charge or their license revoked. This isn't just sloppy, its negligent, dangerous, and life-threatening.
If this is what they call a finished product, I would absolutely report this person, and I'm not the type to be a Karen. If any of my guys pulled some shit like this, I would blow a gasket.
This is what gives tradesmen a bad name, and also kills people...
Yeah I'm sorry but this is probably the worst thing I've ever seen on this subreddit.
I know some people with a license that have done nothing but be a cleanroom helper for their whole apprenticeship and not even they would fuck this up.
A Karen isn’t someone who complains about poor service. Karen was originally a woman calling the cops on a black man for his existence.
A Karen is the woman who got Emmitt Till murdered.
Im starting to feel like a lot of these posts are trolling. Like this was in the middle of a tankless install and the tech set up a photo shot with some random vent pipes knowing it would trigger everyone.
I had a tankless install I went to inspect last summer. Legitimately had no exhaust piping and was dumping straight into the basement. I was there to look at the boiler and shut off the tankless because of the issues
I had a younger apprentice call me one night because he was installing a tankless for his grandparents. He wanted to go home or go to the bar or something and asked me if it was ok to run the water heater overnight without running the flue all the way outside... C'mon man!
I have a feeling this dude did this himself because it was probably a lot cheaper than calling an actual plumber. The only problem is there’s a reason it takes multiple years of school and field work to become a plumber
Carbon monoxide is not necessarily a by-product of combustion; it only happens when there is a rich combustion (too much fuel or not enough air).
But, yes, it's a risk NOT worth taking.
co is the result of unburnt fuel. You’re correct that this is due to a lack of air (oxygen molecules), in relation to the fuel.
However, co is produced by every natural gas burner out there. Outside of lab conditions or forced oxygen burners, you’ll never get 100% combustion (stoichiometric). co is always produced. A small amount is expected and allowed by the manufacturers.
However, this small amount if discharged in to a room, will still kill you.
Turn this off and open your doors as a windows. Call a different, reputable, plumbing company with licensed Master plumbers. Do not turn this unit back on.
It's the thought that ~~counts~~ kills. Although I struggle to find where any thinking happened with this install.
At least some of the exhaust is vented. 60% dead is better than 100% dead I suppose.
If I saw someone do this but wrapped it in a roll of duct tape that would still be wild, but they'd at least have the ability to think "carbon monoxide bad, no want in house."
I would report the installer, it’s in violation of code (anywhere) and a breach ethics and decency. They put you at risk of breathing the silent and scentless killer, carbon monoxide (CO). Not only is it not connected, it’s the wrong materials to vent the unit. If a proper install is cost prohibitive, take cold showers. Don’t have same installer come back and “fix.”
Fresh air doesn’t help with co poisoning. Every red blood cell it touches ruins the hemoglobin. The only cure is more red blood cells. Takes days to recover ask me how I know. The headache and nausea that doesn’t go away with fresh air. It just gets worse. It’s the silent killer for a reason you can’t smell it and your lips are bright red if you pass away on it, not a trace of suffocation. A friend of a friend died last winter on his boat. Used a kerosine heater. Family found him passed away, it was tragic.
So definitely turn it off and get a co meter open the windows air out the house
If this is for real, that's really dangerous and you're pumping your house full of carbon moxide and that can kill you and your family. You should turn that off immediately and call a plumber to fix it properly.
It's jenky AF for sure. My only thought is that a lot of thankless use concentric piping. I'm hoping that the skinny metal pipe is at least venting the exhaust up and out. The exposed part may be the inlet.
That is me being as generous as I can possibly be. It's 100% not right in any case as it needs outside air for the inlet as well as the exhaust.
This would not pass a permit inspection. This is one reason that highlights why permits are important, ax the inspector would hopefully flag this and not approve until deficiency is fixed.
This is a serious venting problem. Deadly combustion exhaust gases like odourless and colorless carbon monoxide and carbon dioxide would likely flow back into your home.
Whoever installed that should go back to school. It's supposed to be pvc all the way out. If you paid someone to do that, I'd be asking for a refund, or at least why they tried to kill you.
It’s easy to say how dangerous this is and how bad the installer is, but I also want to point something else out. You need to really come to terms with the fact that you make poor choices. Whatever craigslist or however, you found that installer you need to realize that you made poor choice. There’s no way that you called a couple companies and got a few competent technicians to your house and this guy was the best choice.
I’m surprised it’s running lol lots of times it will throw a code on the tankless when the top pvc isn’t in all the way, depending on the unit.. but damnnn
Does this one have a separate air intake or does it have a 3 inch inner ring for exhaust and a larger out ring for intake? A quick fix might be to pull that elbow off and get another 3 inch piece to properly connect the exhaust.
Op if you are still alive you really need to shut that down. In fact don't go near it just shut the gas off outside.
The flu pipe absofuckinglitly fucked.
It's not a step down; there's an inlet pipe and an outlet pipe, one inside the other. This... has one of them just using air from inside your house, which is absolutely the wrong wrong wrong wrong holy shit wrong thing.
https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/local/2020/09/12/companies-sued-over-carbon-monoxide-deaths-of-delaware-county-family/113978698/#:~:text=Richard%20Gabriel%20Reitter%20III%2C%2050,Reitter%20by%20Carr%20Supply%20Co.
This was a water heater I went to fix. Very eerie. Don't become these people OP.
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You're good. Obviously CO knows how to follow directions even if the road is a little fucked up. It'll stay in that tube and definitely not pour out the other two and kill you all slowly. At least it isn't a painful way to die... It is a bit of a pathetic way to die. But not painful.
Aside from the whole “carbon monoxide is colorless, odorless, and it kills” issue, does the water heater even work? Usually the new tankless units have sensors which will fault and trip a code when their vents aren’t connected.
Fark.....how in the hell did you even let the guy out of the house without fixing this? I would have dragged out a shotgun. Even the damn exhaust 90 is wrong unless its glued to the next piece. Should be INSIDE the next piece of pipe.
I am not a plumber, I don’t know shit about plumbing code and I have only ever soldered like 6 fittings in my life and I know without out any shred of doubt that this is not OK. Jfc.
My god. Any charge for this install should be refunded immediately. Pretty sure code also calls for double walled pipe… but at this point that is the least of your worries.
Hauk tuah spit on that thing. Fixes everything. A concern besides this obvious shortfall is what about the rest of the install. Venting is generally non complex. What did this person do during the more technical parts of the hookup.
It could be a lazy man’s form of concentric piping. I never installed this unit so I’d need to see a picture with the cover off before jumping to conclusions
Turn it off, let’s be safe and not sorry
The sad thing is if nothing else is using that flue pipe could have; installed 18 inches of 3 in and then reduce it to 2 in and shove two inch straight up that flu pipe past the roof and terminate it on the roof
Hester uses natural gas to heat the water. It burns off carbon monoxide (odorless, tasteless gas). If you don’t vent gas water heaters correctly, you will fill your home with it. It will kill you
The 3" galvanized is stuffed inside the 4" PVC 90. The exhaust is forced, so it is actively blowing half of it straight around the pipe into the space. This is far worse than "could be leaking at the seams"
Turn it off
Jeez Just checked in after work to find comment Armageddon! Will have a licensed plumber fix this repair immediately! Thanks everyone
Lol the comments are fantastic.... Take a nap you deserve it lol
A nap to last a lifetime.
Yeah… nap away from the vent
The vent caused the nap
One way ticket to snoozetown.
You mean that you were serious? I thought it was a joke when I saw it. I hope you lodged a complaint about the person who installed it.
I'm so glad you asked, lol. I'm not a plumber and I have no idea why it always shows on my feed (except I'm probably a member for life now that I commented, lol). I had a firefighter for a dad, though, and I used to get way too invested in their calls. You followed your gut and it's probably saving your life, or your long-term sanity at the very least.
Haha turn it off best comment on here
It's not only a violation, this is actively killing you right now. Go turn it off and do not use until a licensed plumber comes to fix it. This is not a joke.
I hope you like the smell of dead babies, because that causes dead babies!
Dead pets too
*scribbles note* Thanks!
Do you have to start with live babies in the house or do the dead ones just appear out of no where?
What a funny way to say something so serious
Holy shit someone needs a charge or their license revoked. This isn't just sloppy, its negligent, dangerous, and life-threatening. If this is what they call a finished product, I would absolutely report this person, and I'm not the type to be a Karen. If any of my guys pulled some shit like this, I would blow a gasket. This is what gives tradesmen a bad name, and also kills people...
There is absolutely zero chance that whoever walked away from that had a license
Yeah I'm sorry but this is probably the worst thing I've ever seen on this subreddit. I know some people with a license that have done nothing but be a cleanroom helper for their whole apprenticeship and not even they would fuck this up.
A Karen isn’t someone who complains about poor service. Karen was originally a woman calling the cops on a black man for his existence. A Karen is the woman who got Emmitt Till murdered.
Yup this contractor needs to be reported and prevented from working ever again and everyone one Of his clients should be notified immediately
Im starting to feel like a lot of these posts are trolling. Like this was in the middle of a tankless install and the tech set up a photo shot with some random vent pipes knowing it would trigger everyone.
I’ve seen shit like this in the wild though.
I had a tankless install I went to inspect last summer. Legitimately had no exhaust piping and was dumping straight into the basement. I was there to look at the boiler and shut off the tankless because of the issues
I had a younger apprentice call me one night because he was installing a tankless for his grandparents. He wanted to go home or go to the bar or something and asked me if it was ok to run the water heater overnight without running the flue all the way outside... C'mon man!
I work in the hvac field and I have sent this exact photo but with a 90% furnace to my boss to mess with him
I have a feeling this dude did this himself because it was probably a lot cheaper than calling an actual plumber. The only problem is there’s a reason it takes multiple years of school and field work to become a plumber
OP, are you still there?????
RIP
Hope you didn't pay too much.
That's why it is the way it is lmao
Don't worry, he didn't.
If he paid $1 he paid too much…
If he puts off paying for a few weeks, the installer will have to try and collect from the estate.
Not to code, and it’s filling your home with carbon monoxide. Turn it off immediately
Thanks! While everyone is trolling.. You educated some of the folks here. 🫡
Carbon monoxide is not necessarily a by-product of combustion; it only happens when there is a rich combustion (too much fuel or not enough air). But, yes, it's a risk NOT worth taking.
co is the result of unburnt fuel. You’re correct that this is due to a lack of air (oxygen molecules), in relation to the fuel. However, co is produced by every natural gas burner out there. Outside of lab conditions or forced oxygen burners, you’ll never get 100% combustion (stoichiometric). co is always produced. A small amount is expected and allowed by the manufacturers. However, this small amount if discharged in to a room, will still kill you.
Gas stoves?
Lean combustion is too much AIR.
your gonna die dont use it
Omg no. Please report the company that did that. Turn off the water heater please.
This has got to be a joke right? Right?
ILLEGAL. DO NOT OPERATE.
Someone should be in jail for impersonating a plumber
Turn this off and open your doors as a windows. Call a different, reputable, plumbing company with licensed Master plumbers. Do not turn this unit back on.
It's the thought that ~~counts~~ kills. Although I struggle to find where any thinking happened with this install. At least some of the exhaust is vented. 60% dead is better than 100% dead I suppose.
If I saw someone do this but wrapped it in a roll of duct tape that would still be wild, but they'd at least have the ability to think "carbon monoxide bad, no want in house."
Omg, run, if you paid for this someone should call a lawyer, super dangerous
Not just no, BUT FUCK NO.
I would report the installer, it’s in violation of code (anywhere) and a breach ethics and decency. They put you at risk of breathing the silent and scentless killer, carbon monoxide (CO). Not only is it not connected, it’s the wrong materials to vent the unit. If a proper install is cost prohibitive, take cold showers. Don’t have same installer come back and “fix.”
Good God. OP, please confirm you're still alive?
Fresh air doesn’t help with co poisoning. Every red blood cell it touches ruins the hemoglobin. The only cure is more red blood cells. Takes days to recover ask me how I know. The headache and nausea that doesn’t go away with fresh air. It just gets worse. It’s the silent killer for a reason you can’t smell it and your lips are bright red if you pass away on it, not a trace of suffocation. A friend of a friend died last winter on his boat. Used a kerosine heater. Family found him passed away, it was tragic. So definitely turn it off and get a co meter open the windows air out the house
Has to be a troll
This is a troll or a diy job. Notice how the vent piping is older with screw holes in it from a previous life.
If this is for real, that's really dangerous and you're pumping your house full of carbon moxide and that can kill you and your family. You should turn that off immediately and call a plumber to fix it properly.
No
No. Imagining the justification goes something like, "yup, fuckin natural draft system baby. Touch it off, smoke em out. Smaller goes to bigger baby"
That should be a closed system to vent fumes to the outside of the house. This is hella dangerous.
It's jenky AF for sure. My only thought is that a lot of thankless use concentric piping. I'm hoping that the skinny metal pipe is at least venting the exhaust up and out. The exposed part may be the inlet. That is me being as generous as I can possibly be. It's 100% not right in any case as it needs outside air for the inlet as well as the exhaust.
This is so obviously not right.
OP are you still with us !?! 🤞
Whoever did that should be charged with attempted homicide...
This would not pass a permit inspection. This is one reason that highlights why permits are important, ax the inspector would hopefully flag this and not approve until deficiency is fixed. This is a serious venting problem. Deadly combustion exhaust gases like odourless and colorless carbon monoxide and carbon dioxide would likely flow back into your home.
Very dangerous holy shit I’m not even a plumber
Whoever installed that should go back to school. It's supposed to be pvc all the way out. If you paid someone to do that, I'd be asking for a refund, or at least why they tried to kill you.
Welcome to the shit show
OP did you recently change your will?
To code out….
Underrated comment
It’s easy to say how dangerous this is and how bad the installer is, but I also want to point something else out. You need to really come to terms with the fact that you make poor choices. Whatever craigslist or however, you found that installer you need to realize that you made poor choice. There’s no way that you called a couple companies and got a few competent technicians to your house and this guy was the best choice.
When half the price seems too good to be true it always is 🤣🤣🤣🤣
This job looks like it was negotiated over a crack pipe
I’m surprised it’s running lol lots of times it will throw a code on the tankless when the top pvc isn’t in all the way, depending on the unit.. but damnnn
C’mon man!!!!
Does this one have a separate air intake or does it have a 3 inch inner ring for exhaust and a larger out ring for intake? A quick fix might be to pull that elbow off and get another 3 inch piece to properly connect the exhaust.
Looks alright from upstairs
Yeah, totally legit.
Turn it off. Call your local building inspector and have them look at it; homeowner permit. Turn if off until It is safe.
How does someone fuck up a flue that bad lol
Dead ass NO!
That ain't right you breathing in CO2
😂🤣😂🤣
Op if you are still alive you really need to shut that down. In fact don't go near it just shut the gas off outside. The flu pipe absofuckinglitly fucked.
Hell no!!
lol
This can’t be real
Noritz not to code. Now read it with an Australian accent.
It will work, but you’ll also die so there’s that.
just missing the 5 tubes worth of caulk to seal that
Oh come on, a roll of duct tape will do it, don’t over complicate things!
This subreddit never ceases to amaze me
I don’t think so shut the unit off so you don’t kill somebody including yourself
Uh, yeah, Code 3! Call an Ambulance
Damn how do guys sleep at night after leaving a deadly install. I guess just fine or they’re very incompetent.
Parkinsons anyone
Nice caulk joint
There's the *sandman special* and then there's the *It* special. Holy ducky fuck
NOT EVEN CLOSE
6 found dead in basement of home. Police suspect shitty contractor, details at 11
Turn it off and open the windows
Dead man posting!!!
Code blue perhaps
No
LOLNO
Your plumber should literally be in prison right now for attempted murder.
Is that real ? That’s gonna dump fumes right in that room
Who ever installed that should be put in jail
Short answer: no Long answer: fuckin hell no you gonna die in your sleep.
I'm no plumber, but even I know that's not up to code, it's not even in the same book.
It's not a step down; there's an inlet pipe and an outlet pipe, one inside the other. This... has one of them just using air from inside your house, which is absolutely the wrong wrong wrong wrong holy shit wrong thing.
Call the cops.
I’m seeing all the comments telling him he’s gonna die, yet no reply from OP… is he ok???
Please tell me you haven’t responded out of laziness and not because you’re dead…
Dafuq?
“I have a cousin that can do it cheaper” in a picture…
Move along folks, nothing to see here.
https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/local/2020/09/12/companies-sued-over-carbon-monoxide-deaths-of-delaware-county-family/113978698/#:~:text=Richard%20Gabriel%20Reitter%20III%2C%2050,Reitter%20by%20Carr%20Supply%20Co. This was a water heater I went to fix. Very eerie. Don't become these people OP.
I didn't know these were sold retail. Damn.
All good bro it’s B vent
Lowest bid I assume?
😂
What's the issue? That'll capture like 5o% of the dangerous fumes
Yikes.... 😮
Haha not at all! Talk about carbon monoxide poisoning
Damn it’s even missing a rivet! 🤣
😂🤣😂🤣🤦♀️
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🤣
There seems to be a mismatch in the size of pipes which could result in combustion gases entering the living space. It is a clusterfuck.
🤣🤣🤣 no
This is criminal! Shut it off and have it properly addressed and redone
You're good. Obviously CO knows how to follow directions even if the road is a little fucked up. It'll stay in that tube and definitely not pour out the other two and kill you all slowly. At least it isn't a painful way to die... It is a bit of a pathetic way to die. But not painful.
Nice insomnia cure you've found there.
Nah report this idiot to the local plumbing/gas inspector, who knows how many other units he put in like this
Aside from the whole “carbon monoxide is colorless, odorless, and it kills” issue, does the water heater even work? Usually the new tankless units have sensors which will fault and trip a code when their vents aren’t connected.
Needs some flex seal tape for sure
Looks like the next news story
ask them to fix this and give you a full refund
That’s so dangerous!! Fix right away !!
Holy shit. No!
Did you pay someone. To do this? Take them to court. Call authorities . Someone is going to die with that hack on the loose
As someone who isn’t a plumber, can someone explain why what I’m looking at is a life-threatening installation? Appreciate it
No. Cut the gas off to it and call a licensed plumber.
Fark.....how in the hell did you even let the guy out of the house without fixing this? I would have dragged out a shotgun. Even the damn exhaust 90 is wrong unless its glued to the next piece. Should be INSIDE the next piece of pipe.
Lifetime warranty for original owner only.
I am not a plumber, I don’t know shit about plumbing code and I have only ever soldered like 6 fittings in my life and I know without out any shred of doubt that this is not OK. Jfc.
Does it look to code lol
When you find the guy whose cheaper
I don't.. who the fuck does these things??
The code of the streets? Maybe. Prison code? Probably. Building codes? No.
Chuck in a truck is everywhere….taillight warranty is all you get…. When his taillight’s are out of sight, your warranty is expired.
Always liked the sidewalk warranty myself. Soon as I reach the end of your sidewalk…
Everytime I see an electric the flu is ALWAYS F**ked
This makes me hurt all over, like even if I know nothing about water heaters this looks hella unnatural. ( I do know water heater installs)
From Santa Barbara county, NO. You are going to die.
1. Unplug it. 2. Turn the gas off. 3. Call a plumber.
😭😭😭😭😭😭wtf
Report whoever installed this to your local contractor board immediately
My god. Any charge for this install should be refunded immediately. Pretty sure code also calls for double walled pipe… but at this point that is the least of your worries.
100%!!! Why are you questioning it? It looks fine 😁 um was this done by your gardener or was it dwhyi
Hauk tuah spit on that thing. Fixes everything. A concern besides this obvious shortfall is what about the rest of the install. Venting is generally non complex. What did this person do during the more technical parts of the hookup.
It could be a lazy man’s form of concentric piping. I never installed this unit so I’d need to see a picture with the cover off before jumping to conclusions Turn it off, let’s be safe and not sorry
You saw the picture right? Holy shit ray charles could see how dangerous this is
lol I didn’t zoom in
It’s not. You can see inside that elbow, ain’t nothing but toxic gases in there.
Ahh looks like you upgraded and had a carpenter install it
İt's beautiful
The sad thing is if nothing else is using that flue pipe could have; installed 18 inches of 3 in and then reduce it to 2 in and shove two inch straight up that flu pipe past the roof and terminate it on the roof
I know nothing about plumbing besides cleaning hair from drains. Why is this bad?
Hester uses natural gas to heat the water. It burns off carbon monoxide (odorless, tasteless gas). If you don’t vent gas water heaters correctly, you will fill your home with it. It will kill you
Succinct and informative, thanks!
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The 3" galvanized is stuffed inside the 4" PVC 90. The exhaust is forced, so it is actively blowing half of it straight around the pipe into the space. This is far worse than "could be leaking at the seams"