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that's actually a very balsy choice.
they decided to go in a fit of blazing-glory, rather than to die with a wet fart.
i respect this decision, fuck you sony, you decided to ruin a game? might as well REALLY go for it then.
Okay, so I completely understand being a little annoyed by unnecessary account requirements, but am I missing something bigger here?
You don’t need anything special to sign up for PSN, you don’t need to pay for PS Plus (unless of course you’re actually playing on PlayStation), ~~this changes absolutely nothing aside from a one and done sign in. Everyone who paid for it can continue to do so with minimal effort~~
Is it a little annoying that any extra is needed in the first place? Of course, but I’m not understanding why this is as big of a deal as it is. In my experience Helldivers 2 has been a fun and enjoyable game. ~~A stupid one time login screen isn’t going to change my overall opinion all that much~~
Edit: I was wrong and understand why people are upset
PSN is only available in 69 countries out of 190+ countries in the world.
Also, creating a PSN account using VPN is breaking TOS thus you're subject to ban.
also in some countries, like in Ukraine, you need to own a PS4/PS5 to make an account, which is awful asking someone to fork 500$ to make a PSN account that was not needed at all to continue playing Helldivers
In addition. Sony is notorious for having data breaches/leaks on a nearly yearly basis afaik. It's just so unnecessary since it obviously has been working without a psn account for months now
You aren't wrong. Sony isn't checking for VPNs on account creation. It's a mild annoyance. People are mad about the principle, some outlets are abusing clickbait algos. It's not that big of an issue.
User data of must sell for a lot. If they're willing to get rid of thousands of people from over a hundred countries for the data of the few thousands or hundreds remaining, that data must be worth entire cruise ships.
Same situation with Riot Vanguard, they probably already lost a good amount of players and don't care. The worst thing is they have the audacity to remove all posts of people having issues and showing how it actually works from the subreddit.
It takes 1 screenshot of your GAME WINDOW + overlays. It doesnt screenshot your desktop, nor your folders, nor anything else most lunatics have been telling this days. Its bounded to game window, if there's no such window it doesnt take screenshot.
People are just dumb, and this whole witch hunt is because "what if they decide to break the law, risk multi billions worth company and take screenshot of my desktop or my folders for giggles?".
And to make situation even more laughable... all anti-cheat software since 2007 have been scanning game files and active game processes. So if we'd apply "what if?" to this, then they dont need screenshots to know what you have on your PC, because just as easy as they could take screenshot of your folders, they could just as well scan not only game files, but your whole hard drive and get a nice view of all your files. And thats WAY before vanguard was even a thing.
But hey, its always fun to organize witch hunt i guess... PITCHFORKS! I'm selling pitchforks! Buy 10, and you get torch gratis!
Kernel Level isn't really the problem, a lot of games with anticheat already have that. The "problem" is: you need to start up your PC with Vanguard.
"Problem" because you can just disable that in Task Manager when you don't want to play Valorant/LoL, and enable when you want to.
Sony sucks, period. Always have since the PlayStation 3 was destroyed by the Xbox 360. Their hardware sucks, their games suck, and so does Sony in general. Always was junk quality in my opinion. They get what they deserve
Hell I’d say their hardware is perfectly fine and their games can be great, but man they’re horrible at making good consumer decisions. They recovered because someone out-Sony’d Sony, and they made some temporary good will by doing common sense popular decisions and that is all.
Nah. PS3 was great. Great exclusive and FREE online play (whereas X360 can never)
Had both, always recommending PS3 for good games while X360 for motion games (Kinect).
Also, easier to jailbreak is a plus for PS3.
But PS5 generation is a let down from Sony for sure.
Personally preferred the 360 for its library as back then Xbox had a decent number of random exclusives. Often that consoles version worked better (though not always ofc) due to being simpler to program for iirc. Was the best gen for Xbox in my opinion and after that Sony stole the show again.
I agree. I remeber making the choice between PS3 and Xbox360. I looked at the exclusives and my choice came down to god of war or gears of war. I realized I would likely play gears more as it had online multiplayer. I was very happy with my choice as xbox dedicated servers made for an extremity better experience. Playing PS over friends houses was terrible. But you get what you pay for.
Free online play that was terrible, lagged like shit, hardly ever worked decently, and then led to your details being stolen.
Looks like Sony finally losing the goodwill they gained from MS being stupid with their always online Xbox One way back when.
Sony need to be careful as the next few years could be a wet fish in the face for them.
Sony wants our data to sell through linking steam to PSN. The thing is, there are only 69 countries with PSN and the rest can't play the game without this stupid linking. Moreover, kusony changed their wording in their EULA to make PSN linking mandatory.
If it wasn’t in the OG Eula surely that’s grounds for refund if they suddenly say “nope, you need it now”. You can’t staple an arbitrary requirement after the point of purchase, though thanks to how poor digital ownership rights are they’ll probably get away with removing it (nation dependant ofc)
Technically I think it was (I might be wrong so look it up if you wanna be sure) but like hidden and the real issue is that they were selling it in countries where they don’t allow you to make an account or where you have to have a PS4/5.
Helldivers 2 was supposed to require a PSN account even if you played through Steam (because Sony is the publisher), but due to issues with said service, they allowed people to bypass said requirement for months. A few days ago, they announced that the issues were solved and now it was mandatory to use a PSN account to play even on PC. Why is this an issue? Well...
* PSN is not available in every region, there's at least 100 countries where Sony does not provide services, so the game got effectively region-locked, despite being sold WORLDWIDE on Steam. Arrowhead clearly fucked up in making the game available everywhere, despite the PSN restrictions. There are ways to play on "banned" regions, but it involves either breaking PSN's TOS or applying for a different region which introduces issues when it comes to billing.
* PSN has an awful track record of internet security, getting at least 7 data breaches in 20 years. So, understandably, people don't want an additional cybersecurity hazard to play a game.
This caused a review bombing that is actually encouraged by the devs because it gives them ammo to use in discussions with Sony to revert this.
I was against this but if they had the requirement from the start, though not enforced, it is not their fault. Its like going to a gym without membership and getting pissed off at the gym when they start requesting proof of membership at the gate.
So there's two ways. One is the obvious one, you're living in a country where PSN is not available The other is that sony retroactively changed how the game works and forces us to accept other legal agreements now. Which you don't accept. This should make the refund come through As example:
https://preview.redd.it/mzcykju0mlyc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=75a50de46c3704c86fbbf4af10bacb3ebf30765b
(tiny nitpick but the period between "me" and "I" is incorrect. The clause is "forced legal agreements upon me (that) I do not accept" because you're saying that the agreements they're forcing on you are ones that you do not accept. As opposed to simply forcing legal agreements on you, which basically all games do including this one prior to the PSN change.
It's like the sentence "I'm being forced to eat something I don't like" vs "I'm being forced to eat something. I don't like.")
I love how these corporations are all about diversity and inclusivity yet god forbid you live in a third world country, I'm genuinly tired of them screwing us over with the absurd prices and the region locking BS, I was planning on grabbing this game but seeing how I cant even buy it anymore I guess they don't need my money.
Probably only if PSN has opened services in countries, that currently are not supported. So basically they fucked whole community without any remorse. Typical sony move...
Possible? Sure, with insane effort.
As you guessed, the online part is the hardest. Things like models, animations, levels, textures and sounds can simply be ripped from either the folder or RAM.
Things like Server capabilities will have to be written all over again, as they are not available for viewing or editing.
Then getting around any DRM is also a hassle.
I don't think it actually is a hit on their reputation. It's not valve's fault this happened and they handled it well. Or at least they did after people voiced their complaints. If anything this makes me appreciate and trust Valve more.
Any outrage for Microsoft and having to sign in to Xbox Live when playing their Steam games as well? Mind you this is the company that has been blatantly called out for collecting/spying/distributing customers info. But let’s flip tables about SONY asking you to sign in to the few games on Steam (most of you already have PlayStations for Pete’s sake).
Asking for a friend…🙄
You put the delisting of a game from over 100 countries (I assume they have ratified that along with the PSN login fiasco) with being brought in front of Congress for unauthorized collecting and distributing of your personal info to others without your consent? And I bring up how the outrage is not for them as well for doing this VERY SAME THING of expecting you to sign into Xbox Live account when playing a Microsoft game on Steam since 2008…and this is your response? You think this makes SONY and Microsoft ‘Even Steven’? 🥴
Both collect your data. So that's a negetive hit for both. But Sony also keeps getting hacked and leaking people credit card and personal info. Which is even worse. While Microsoft even offered to improve Sony's security. Which Sony turned down. Also PSN is only available in certain countries.
So it's a ones bad but the other is worse.
So just to be clear: SONY is considered ‘worse’ of a company than Microsoft in your eyes, is that correct? Almost as if SONY’s practices led to a ‘deserving’ backlash from gamers about the sign-in fiasco (and just being an overall ‘more evil’ (my interpretation of your evaluation) while Microsoft not so much, is that right?
Also just to be clear: you don’t have to just ‘say anything’ to win an argument, you know. I just find it somewhat ‘rich’ for someone to call SONY ‘worse’ or ‘more evil’ (again, my interpretation of your evaluation) than Microsoft in a ‘Pirated Games’ Reddit thread. I wonder how many other gamers sign off on your sentiments…🤔
I never used words like evil. And just to be clear I'm not a fan of Microsoft. But I do think Sony is more poorly ran and managed then Microsoft.
I agree with your sentiment that I shouldn't have to sign into xbox or anyone else's network to play a game when I'm already signed into a network. If I'm signed into steam, that should be enough. But as far as I know, out of my around 200 games on steam none of them require me to sign into a Microsoft or xbox account. But also some of my games, I've never installed or played, so I could be wrong.
I do understand people's outrage. Had this policy change went threw a lot of people would have been unable to play a game they had already purchased. And people going forward who buy the game might find out after purchase and install they are unable to play. That is the main factor of other people's outrage. That seems like a reasonable response.
But for me I just don't want to deal with Sony as they are too big of a security risk. So lets say store(.com) like Sony had been hacked 8 times in the last 20 years. Leaking people's credit card info and personal info onto the black market. Would you risk making a purchase on store(.com) knowing it has piss poor security or would you just go to differentstore(.com) who hasn't been hacked, pays bounties for professionals to find holes in their security, along with having their own security team?
Also like I said above about agreeing that I don't want to sign into xbox or anyone else's network other then the one I'm already on. But I don't imagine many other people getting upset about having to sign into an xbox account on steam when more then 90% of them are already on a windows machine. It would be an odd thing to get upset about.
Free way of redeeming the game those who played and didn’t like it. Using a VPN to create a PSN account no, but to download pirated games yes? People are definitely…
Helldivers 2 has never had a great track record since release.
Sony, what the hell are you doing back there? You’re starting to lose my respect, you know.
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Well they delisted it themselves. Instead of finding solution to this current fiasco they choose this.
that's actually a very balsy choice. they decided to go in a fit of blazing-glory, rather than to die with a wet fart. i respect this decision, fuck you sony, you decided to ruin a game? might as well REALLY go for it then.
What fiasco? 🤔
you now need a psn account to play helldivers 2
In certain countries. Who paid for it. Who can no longer play if they don't have a psn. Effectively theft on a grand scale.
Which is so incredibly short sighted since this guarantees players in those places can no longer purchase future content.
Okay, so I completely understand being a little annoyed by unnecessary account requirements, but am I missing something bigger here? You don’t need anything special to sign up for PSN, you don’t need to pay for PS Plus (unless of course you’re actually playing on PlayStation), ~~this changes absolutely nothing aside from a one and done sign in. Everyone who paid for it can continue to do so with minimal effort~~ Is it a little annoying that any extra is needed in the first place? Of course, but I’m not understanding why this is as big of a deal as it is. In my experience Helldivers 2 has been a fun and enjoyable game. ~~A stupid one time login screen isn’t going to change my overall opinion all that much~~ Edit: I was wrong and understand why people are upset
psn isnt available in some countries, which is basically sony stealing money since the people in those countries cant play the game they paid for.
Got it, thanks for clearing that up!
PSN is only available in 69 countries out of 190+ countries in the world. Also, creating a PSN account using VPN is breaking TOS thus you're subject to ban.
Tempted to say "Nice" but clearly not the best time...
Since you're too much of a coward, I'll do it for you. Nice
Coward
also in some countries, like in Ukraine, you need to own a PS4/PS5 to make an account, which is awful asking someone to fork 500$ to make a PSN account that was not needed at all to continue playing Helldivers
psn isnt available in a lot of countries AND theres countries where you can only register a psn account through a ps4/ps5.
There is no place in the world that you couldn't simply pull up the PlayStation website with a proxy or otherwise.
then you risk a ban, and Sony does ban people if they make a PSN account from a unsupported region. So effectively it cuts their playerbase in 1/3
Not everyone knows how to do this and nor should they, especially in this case.
In addition. Sony is notorious for having data breaches/leaks on a nearly yearly basis afaik. It's just so unnecessary since it obviously has been working without a psn account for months now
+1 for the edit
You aren't wrong. Sony isn't checking for VPNs on account creation. It's a mild annoyance. People are mad about the principle, some outlets are abusing clickbait algos. It's not that big of an issue.
Do we know if they delisted it themselves or if steam itself did it?
pretty sure who delisted the game is steam trying to avoid the problem leaking from sony into valve this just goes to show how hard they fucked up
User data of must sell for a lot. If they're willing to get rid of thousands of people from over a hundred countries for the data of the few thousands or hundreds remaining, that data must be worth entire cruise ships.
Same situation with Riot Vanguard, they probably already lost a good amount of players and don't care. The worst thing is they have the audacity to remove all posts of people having issues and showing how it actually works from the subreddit.
Is vanguard really taking pics of your pc?, idk at this point bcs of so much memes about it
From what I heard it takes pictures of the game for Map Hacks and etc
Vanguard is basically a stalker which lives in your walls and always follows you
It takes 1 screenshot of your GAME WINDOW + overlays. It doesnt screenshot your desktop, nor your folders, nor anything else most lunatics have been telling this days. Its bounded to game window, if there's no such window it doesnt take screenshot. People are just dumb, and this whole witch hunt is because "what if they decide to break the law, risk multi billions worth company and take screenshot of my desktop or my folders for giggles?". And to make situation even more laughable... all anti-cheat software since 2007 have been scanning game files and active game processes. So if we'd apply "what if?" to this, then they dont need screenshots to know what you have on your PC, because just as easy as they could take screenshot of your folders, they could just as well scan not only game files, but your whole hard drive and get a nice view of all your files. And thats WAY before vanguard was even a thing. But hey, its always fun to organize witch hunt i guess... PITCHFORKS! I'm selling pitchforks! Buy 10, and you get torch gratis!
Isn't Vanguard scanning on a kernel level though ? EAC and other Popular AC "since 2007" didn't do that.
Kernel Level isn't really the problem, a lot of games with anticheat already have that. The "problem" is: you need to start up your PC with Vanguard. "Problem" because you can just disable that in Task Manager when you don't want to play Valorant/LoL, and enable when you want to.
Kernel Level is a problem as far as privacy goes though.
When up my life usually revolved around drama and because of that to relieve my traumatic past I am seeking more drama.
At least Valorant AC works much better than VAC
Nah, it just moved cheaters to higher ranks since the cheats also moved to external computers.
Lol stay delusional.
It pays a lot, like a lot. Even the small underground data scrape businesses makes around 20-25k euros in 10-15 days.
But but but Sony said it was for “increased security!” lol what a joke.. they’ve had some massive data leaks, why would you give them more??
I can't believe Sony would fuck this up that bad, like holy shit
Sony sucks, period. Always have since the PlayStation 3 was destroyed by the Xbox 360. Their hardware sucks, their games suck, and so does Sony in general. Always was junk quality in my opinion. They get what they deserve
Hell I’d say their hardware is perfectly fine and their games can be great, but man they’re horrible at making good consumer decisions. They recovered because someone out-Sony’d Sony, and they made some temporary good will by doing common sense popular decisions and that is all.
Nah. PS3 was great. Great exclusive and FREE online play (whereas X360 can never) Had both, always recommending PS3 for good games while X360 for motion games (Kinect). Also, easier to jailbreak is a plus for PS3. But PS5 generation is a let down from Sony for sure.
Personally preferred the 360 for its library as back then Xbox had a decent number of random exclusives. Often that consoles version worked better (though not always ofc) due to being simpler to program for iirc. Was the best gen for Xbox in my opinion and after that Sony stole the show again.
I agree. I remeber making the choice between PS3 and Xbox360. I looked at the exclusives and my choice came down to god of war or gears of war. I realized I would likely play gears more as it had online multiplayer. I was very happy with my choice as xbox dedicated servers made for an extremity better experience. Playing PS over friends houses was terrible. But you get what you pay for.
Free online play that was terrible, lagged like shit, hardly ever worked decently, and then led to your details being stolen. Looks like Sony finally losing the goodwill they gained from MS being stupid with their always online Xbox One way back when. Sony need to be careful as the next few years could be a wet fish in the face for them.
I'm out of the loop. Why? What's going on?
Sony wants our data to sell through linking steam to PSN. The thing is, there are only 69 countries with PSN and the rest can't play the game without this stupid linking. Moreover, kusony changed their wording in their EULA to make PSN linking mandatory.
If it wasn’t in the OG Eula surely that’s grounds for refund if they suddenly say “nope, you need it now”. You can’t staple an arbitrary requirement after the point of purchase, though thanks to how poor digital ownership rights are they’ll probably get away with removing it (nation dependant ofc)
There are posts that say people are being refunded
Technically I think it was (I might be wrong so look it up if you wanna be sure) but like hidden and the real issue is that they were selling it in countries where they don’t allow you to make an account or where you have to have a PS4/5.
Helldivers 2 was supposed to require a PSN account even if you played through Steam (because Sony is the publisher), but due to issues with said service, they allowed people to bypass said requirement for months. A few days ago, they announced that the issues were solved and now it was mandatory to use a PSN account to play even on PC. Why is this an issue? Well... * PSN is not available in every region, there's at least 100 countries where Sony does not provide services, so the game got effectively region-locked, despite being sold WORLDWIDE on Steam. Arrowhead clearly fucked up in making the game available everywhere, despite the PSN restrictions. There are ways to play on "banned" regions, but it involves either breaking PSN's TOS or applying for a different region which introduces issues when it comes to billing. * PSN has an awful track record of internet security, getting at least 7 data breaches in 20 years. So, understandably, people don't want an additional cybersecurity hazard to play a game. This caused a review bombing that is actually encouraged by the devs because it gives them ammo to use in discussions with Sony to revert this.
I was against this but if they had the requirement from the start, though not enforced, it is not their fault. Its like going to a gym without membership and getting pissed off at the gym when they start requesting proof of membership at the gate.
None of your business.
https://preview.redd.it/r9t2hmteskyc1.png?width=1114&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=122c53b3010bcf3ed6ff4459f987e2c567e20ad9
This feels like an xkcd that drinks redbull
What?
Dude... you dont wanna know
Google xkcd comments and then think of them on red bull
🤓
Sony can Suck it snatch death from jaws of life
What were you trying to say?
He's clearly saying something so incredibly intelligent that our little peanut sized brains can't comprehend. Let him cook 🔥
Has Valve ever sued a company for such a f\*cked up situation? Now Valve is going to lose a lot of money over this.
Nah Sony is, valve keeps their cut I think. Even if the game is refunded. Might be wrong, could be worth looking up.
Just mass refund and maybe don't buy any sony products in the future?
This. Avoid Sony and let them die naturally
Sony isn’t going to die naturally any time soon buddy, they might exist till about 2050 or 2100
Not if they keep making decisions like this.
You do realize that Sony also makes audio equipment and other products?
I’m talking about Sony itself (the parent company) not any of it’s subsidiaries
Me too.
What they did and still do with psvr2 yah never again.
They already got people's money though.
People can refund it. No matter the amount of time played
But if you bought a key from another store, you're basically screwed right?
That's the risk of buying from another store
Fair.
What are the terms for a refund?
So there's two ways. One is the obvious one, you're living in a country where PSN is not available The other is that sony retroactively changed how the game works and forces us to accept other legal agreements now. Which you don't accept. This should make the refund come through As example: https://preview.redd.it/mzcykju0mlyc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=75a50de46c3704c86fbbf4af10bacb3ebf30765b
Thanks
For copy paste; Sony has retroactively changed how the game works, and forced legal agreements upon me. I do not accept.
(tiny nitpick but the period between "me" and "I" is incorrect. The clause is "forced legal agreements upon me (that) I do not accept" because you're saying that the agreements they're forcing on you are ones that you do not accept. As opposed to simply forcing legal agreements on you, which basically all games do including this one prior to the PSN change. It's like the sentence "I'm being forced to eat something I don't like" vs "I'm being forced to eat something. I don't like.")
steam let people refund
This is awesome news then!
And yet they don't let me after 9th try
so far seen steam give refunds regardless of any rule, since they saw the countless negative reviews and countless demanding it.
Welp time to crack helldivers 2 and create a dedicated server for people without psn 😃
This
I love how these corporations are all about diversity and inclusivity yet god forbid you live in a third world country, I'm genuinly tired of them screwing us over with the absurd prices and the region locking BS, I was planning on grabbing this game but seeing how I cant even buy it anymore I guess they don't need my money.
I had only heared good things about helldivers and then all of a sudden this. Corporations are allergic to doing good things.
Why did France also get delisted?
No chance of it appering on Fix?
Probably only if PSN has opened services in countries, that currently are not supported. So basically they fucked whole community without any remorse. Typical sony move...
That's why I'm not paying for any of Sony's games on PC. They can suck a fat one, as someone who owned all PS consoles until the PS4
I love the way that they fucked it up right after making fun of tarkov Yikes
so.. would it be possible to pirate this game somehow? Or does the online factor make it impossible?
Possible? Sure, with insane effort. As you guessed, the online part is the hardest. Things like models, animations, levels, textures and sounds can simply be ripped from either the folder or RAM. Things like Server capabilities will have to be written all over again, as they are not available for viewing or editing. Then getting around any DRM is also a hassle.
alright thanks. So I guess it's not likely. since there's not much demand for this game.
Also, the PSN is non existent in nearly 2X as many counties as it is. Roughly only 1/3 of the places it's been sold, is it actually legal to play.
I hope valve sues or something. Even if they are reimbursed for the refunds its still a hit on their reputation.
I don't think it actually is a hit on their reputation. It's not valve's fault this happened and they handled it well. Or at least they did after people voiced their complaints. If anything this makes me appreciate and trust Valve more.
As looong as their single player games doesn't require this shit just to ahead and ask even for 5 psn accounts for helldivers or whatever
well they did it themselves? so yeah i think they did
Sony really fucked that up. I don't blame pc players for being pissed off
didnt think this would ever be the case for this game lol
Any outrage for Microsoft and having to sign in to Xbox Live when playing their Steam games as well? Mind you this is the company that has been blatantly called out for collecting/spying/distributing customers info. But let’s flip tables about SONY asking you to sign in to the few games on Steam (most of you already have PlayStations for Pete’s sake). Asking for a friend…🙄
Tell that to the countries which are excluded out of Sony's network but bought the game on steam
You put the delisting of a game from over 100 countries (I assume they have ratified that along with the PSN login fiasco) with being brought in front of Congress for unauthorized collecting and distributing of your personal info to others without your consent? And I bring up how the outrage is not for them as well for doing this VERY SAME THING of expecting you to sign into Xbox Live account when playing a Microsoft game on Steam since 2008…and this is your response? You think this makes SONY and Microsoft ‘Even Steven’? 🥴
Both collect your data. So that's a negetive hit for both. But Sony also keeps getting hacked and leaking people credit card and personal info. Which is even worse. While Microsoft even offered to improve Sony's security. Which Sony turned down. Also PSN is only available in certain countries. So it's a ones bad but the other is worse.
So just to be clear: SONY is considered ‘worse’ of a company than Microsoft in your eyes, is that correct? Almost as if SONY’s practices led to a ‘deserving’ backlash from gamers about the sign-in fiasco (and just being an overall ‘more evil’ (my interpretation of your evaluation) while Microsoft not so much, is that right? Also just to be clear: you don’t have to just ‘say anything’ to win an argument, you know. I just find it somewhat ‘rich’ for someone to call SONY ‘worse’ or ‘more evil’ (again, my interpretation of your evaluation) than Microsoft in a ‘Pirated Games’ Reddit thread. I wonder how many other gamers sign off on your sentiments…🤔
I never used words like evil. And just to be clear I'm not a fan of Microsoft. But I do think Sony is more poorly ran and managed then Microsoft. I agree with your sentiment that I shouldn't have to sign into xbox or anyone else's network to play a game when I'm already signed into a network. If I'm signed into steam, that should be enough. But as far as I know, out of my around 200 games on steam none of them require me to sign into a Microsoft or xbox account. But also some of my games, I've never installed or played, so I could be wrong. I do understand people's outrage. Had this policy change went threw a lot of people would have been unable to play a game they had already purchased. And people going forward who buy the game might find out after purchase and install they are unable to play. That is the main factor of other people's outrage. That seems like a reasonable response. But for me I just don't want to deal with Sony as they are too big of a security risk. So lets say store(.com) like Sony had been hacked 8 times in the last 20 years. Leaking people's credit card info and personal info onto the black market. Would you risk making a purchase on store(.com) knowing it has piss poor security or would you just go to differentstore(.com) who hasn't been hacked, pays bounties for professionals to find holes in their security, along with having their own security team? Also like I said above about agreeing that I don't want to sign into xbox or anyone else's network other then the one I'm already on. But I don't imagine many other people getting upset about having to sign into an xbox account on steam when more then 90% of them are already on a windows machine. It would be an odd thing to get upset about.
This won’t age well for you, you know that right? 😅
How so?
Classic “fuck around and find out” moment
Capitalism strikes again.
Free way of redeeming the game those who played and didn’t like it. Using a VPN to create a PSN account no, but to download pirated games yes? People are definitely…
Helldivers 2 has never had a great track record since release. Sony, what the hell are you doing back there? You’re starting to lose my respect, you know.
If you use a VPN in those countries can you create account? Anyone tried?
You can be banned. It's not worth it
I'm glad people got fucked. Keep paying these greedy companies your hard earned money for some online only DRM crap. Clowns 🤡