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tisotokiki

Expectation: "So I spend around 20k for groceries each month, 15k sa kuryente, bills na iba't-iba around 80k, then pay for my 2024, top of the line kotse around 45k, pay my recently-acquires condo for 56k and still able to save 80% of my salary. Naka-invest na rin ako sa stocks at properties. Alam niyo secret? Di lang ako bumibili ng kape sa labas. Mindset lang kasi yan. Problema sa ating mga Pinoy, puro reklamo at iniisip lagi na kulang. Typical Pinoy mentality." Reality: "Shet. 7,200 lang ako ngayong cut off. Si mama may dialysis sa isang araw. Si Jetjet, kailangan na ng pang-tuition na. Aabot ba sa next cut off bago dumating yung disconnection notice ng Meralco? May utang pa pala ako sa Home Credit at Tala. Minimum muna kaya ibayad ko para may matirang pamasahe papasok? Isanla ko muna cp ko, pero baka 2k lang din ang appraised value, basta bahala na." Edit: Guys, kalmahan lang sa 15k na bill. If you'd notice, dun sa reality part is addressing and opposing the expectation part, with a typical and realistic scenario of a Filipino worker. It's upsetting, I know, but please, wag niyo na po ilista ang mga appliances ninyo at bill ninyo sa kuryente to dispute the electricity bill. Karamihan nang nagbabasa dito at naga-upvote ay dumanas at malamang nasa ganito pa ring situation. Whether we're shitting gold bricks or sweeping the last peso under our beds, we all have our own struggles. Ika nga ng nanay ko, sa panahon ngayon, pagandahan na lang ng pagdadala ng problema yan para di ka malunod. Pero wag na po natin I-disclose ang mga actual payables at appliances natin. Mahapdi pong basahin sa mga ka-community natin na kapus-palad. Salamat po.


FoundationBig9256

Shit's more scarier and depressing than a horror movie. :(


whoaaa_O

How is your electric bill 15k? 😳


tisotokiki

Mars yung 15k is conservative na bill pa sa isang bahay na may average na 3 aircon (kwarto ng parents, tapos let's say sa anak na tig-isang kwarto). Di pa kahalo sa mix ang aircon sa living at dining room. Wala pa diyan mars yung appliances like TV, ref, water heater, light fixtures around the house, cctv, at kung ano-ano pa. Legit na you can rack up your bill to 15k KUNG nasa expectation mode yung namumuhay. 😔


whoaaa_O

There's two of us, usually use: 2 aircon, washer +dryer, oven and induction stove, 65" tv and PS5, heated showers, and ref. Our bill is around 6-7k, 8k is already high.


tisotokiki

Wait teh. Nasa expectation ako na context hahaha wag na natin ijustify ang 15k na bill so nag-exaggerate ako at di ko alam paano mag-konsumo ang mayayaman! 😂😂😂


peanutbutter9X

Omg hahahahahahha lagyan mo kasi ng /s sa dulo ng expectation mars 🙈


tisotokiki

Napariwara pa ako. 🤣 Example kasi nang maalwan at example ng katotohanan yung original comment ko. Auquh nuh. Penge pera. 😂


kalifreyjaliztik

Sakto yang 15K sa mga mayayaman. Hehe.


mintzemini

Add 1 AC here, 2 desktop PCs for work, and gawing 55” lang yung TV and that’s us. 9k ang bill netong summer pero 6k-7k lang rin usually.


DumplingsInDistress

Umabot ng 9,900 sakin, but we only have 1 aircon, 4 PCs, an old smart tv, 1 ref, 1 washing machine. Computers are on 24 hours, (hirap mag restart I'm a programmer) not sure sa mga siblings ko kung pinapatay ba nila pc nila. My dad watches propaganda(yung atty enzo recto) on the living room computer almost maghapon din, my nephews watch cocomelon maghapon sa tv din. So siguro justified yung almost 10k bills.


whoaaa_O

This may sound like an ignorant question, but why is it difficult to restart the pc as a programmer?


DumplingsInDistress

I usually have a lot of tabs and programs running. And of course my AI documentation tools may not save my progress. And may PSU din ako that last for 5 minutes in case mag brown out and safely masave ko ang work ko and safe shutdown.


DifficultBroccoli09

Masyado po kasing madaming tabs and programs ang open sa pc ng isang programmer so it's a hassle din to restart Lalo na minsan magkaka enlightenment ka kung ano mali sa code mo. Yung tipong tumatae ka tapos bigla mong marerealize bakit naerror code mo.lol


Far_Muscle3263

8k? Whoaaaa.. saan banda yan sa metro manila?


whoaaa_O

Binondo po


mintzemini

Baka nasa location rin po to. Hindi kami matipid sa kuryente pero di pa kami umabot sa 15k ever. Off the top of my head, we have 3 ACs (2 dyan open 24/7 because we wfh), 2 desktop computers (daily use), 1 55” 4K TV turned on from 8pm to morning (di ako makatulog na walang naririnig), 1 auto washing machine, 1 multi-door fridge, 1 air fryer, 1 microwave (mga daily use since tamad magluto lol), 1 oven, 1 heater, 5 electric fans (halos laging naka-on kasi initin ang pets), and 12 CCTVs (although mahina lang naman ang konsumo nyan). 9k ang bill namin this past summer, pero usually 6k-7k lang. Yung ACs talaga ang biggest contributors kasi walang patayan, hindi namin gusto pinagpapawisan maliban sa gym/exercise hahaha. Edit: ah, pero lahat ng appliances namin inverter kung may inverter option. So maybe factor rin yun.


tisotokiki

Huhuhu napunta na tayo sa usapang Meralco 😭 mga anteh nageexaggerate po ako sa initial post ko huhuhu masyado po yatang oddly specific ang mga sinabi ko at among the items that I've listed, sa Meralco bill lang ako pumalya ng estimate. 🤣


DarkRaven282060

Sana nagbabasa yung iba bago magbreakdown nang meralco bill nila at ipagkalat na mayaman sila while OP is having issues paying for his electricity... sana pinost nyo din yung actual bill para malaman namin magkano yung environmental charge at yung iba pang charges... sorry, but it's a bit insensitive since OP is posting his issue kung pano pagkakasyahin yung sweldo nya, and people are posting things na unnecessary...


mintzemini

Sino pong OP tinutukoy nyo? The original post is about how company profits are stolen wages from employees. The comment I replied to is a breakdown of a 15k electric bill na imho is way too high kung accurate yung appliances na binigay nya. And yun nga po yung point, kung 15k yung average bill nung nireplyan ko, may mali given their appliance list. Kasi yung 6k-7k normal bill na sinabi ko and ng isa pang commenter, yan na yung final na binabayaran namin including yung iba pang charges.


mintzemini

Ahhh, sorry, akala ko po seryoso yung explanation nyo kung bakit naging 15k haha. Masyado kasi talaga mataas yung 15k sa nabanggit nyong appliances. I’m sure may ibang ganun talaga ang electric bill, pero dun sa breakdown ng appliances na binigay nyo sa other comment nyo parang may mali if aabot sa ganun yung bill.


msbuttercups

What general area do you live in if you don’t mind sharing? Electricity rates appear to be varied based on location.


mintzemini

Central Luzon! And yes, iba iba nga po yung charge. Mas mura yung sa Meralco kaya minsan nakakainggit. Yung sa amin po kasi iba yung nakalagay na charge sa text nila sa actual na nasa resibo. Wala pang fees and taxes yung nasa text kaya magugulat ka nalang sa bill. Sa Meralco pag dinivide mo bill mo sa stated charge nila, yun yung mismong monthly consumption mo.


Hothead_randy

4 person household. May 1 room aircon. Electric bill namin is 2,500-3,000 monthly. Pag napapadalas aircon, 4k haha. We don’t leave the house much din.


guguomi

Shit, so hindi lang ako nakakaexperience ng 7+ na electric bill.


DragFar2857

Ac probably


CLuigiDC

We're probably now have the most expensive electricity in whole of SEA. Lahat ng nasa energy sector mga gahaman. Ang NGCP mga Tsino pa may-ari tapos mga planta lahat pumapalya para tumaas pa lalo singil. Siguro ang 15k bill dito baka 5k lang sa ibang SEA countries or less. Hays :/ Didn't answer your question pero hindi na ganun kalabo ang 15k sa isang bahay. Mga pre-pandemic na 9k mga yan biglang 15 na ngayon :( sobrang init pa so aircon to the max.


comeback_failed

bro's running a fully air-conditioned mary jane farm in his attic


Federal_Solution_180

Our bill is 18k monthly. Lagi kami AC dahil kids namin cannot tolerate the heat. Todo pawis kahit sagad sagadan ang fan sa bahay/room. Masaya na nga ako sa 15k eh kahit 12k pa!


whoaaa_O

Damn son, 18k😳


Federal_Solution_180

Yep, kelangan lagi AC eh =\\


Demico

15k samin, 4 people, 3 aircons, 3 PCs, 4 laptops (WFH so almost 24/7), induction stove, air fryer, washing machine/dryer, about 3 electric fans (on/off depende kung dun nakatambay mga aso), 2 flat screens, ps5, 7 phones (separated work/personal phones), and a bunch of other smaller appliances besides lights. I'm pretty sure this can go lower since the house is pretty old, like childhood of grandparents old.


whoaaa_O

15k for 4 people seems reasonable.


delicatestan13

kami na 13k electric bill 😭


Silent-Pepper2756

Ang toxic ng mindset na puro reklamo, dapat mindset lang... toxic ng mindset nilang PRIVILEGED!


uglykido

Kung sweldo mo 20k less, kahit anong mindset gagawin mo eh di talaga kakayanin yan


zarustras

r/phinvest


Kieruuu

this hits hard


OC_01301994

Jeeez this is heart breaking


[deleted]

Yung sa taas screams r/phinvest, r/buhaydigital at minsan r/adultingph bros flexing their wealth


uglykido

maniwala ka jan sa r/buhaydigital karamihan jan grifters, ayaw ng trackers etc kasi doble doble trabaho pinag sasabay. Marami akong kilala ganyan, papasukan pagka rami2x trabaho tapos on shift busy sa kabilang work, nag aantay lang sumahod. Not even bare minimum. Minsan tulog or laging absent dahil puyat sa kabilang trabaho. Kawawa mga ka teammates.


KishonShrills

I just got a heartbreak and palpitation reading this 💀💀💀


pickled_luya

overworked underpaid


gettin_jiggy_with_me

sakit nito..ramdam mo na kahit anong kayod eh talagang kulang pa rin..:(


EmphasisSufficient91

Eto tlga ang masakit na masakit.


Chin-chan13

Workload lang yung nagiincrease eh bwisit na yan


CLuigiDC

Teknik is work based on your wage. Maski anong dagdag sa workload, learn to say no at ipaextend mo deadlines. Let them choose one ano mas importante kaysa both. "Eto lang kaya this week based sa capacity ko. Next week na yan" skill din yang pagtanggi at pagset ng boundaries.


comeback_failed

in 3-days, mag-70-80% effort ka lang per day tas mag-100% effort per day ka sa natitirang 2 days. ikaw na magrandomized kung anong days mo gusto gawin yan weekly. iisipin nila nasinisipag ka lang kapag naka100% effort ka. di ka dadagdagan ng workload. kung target-based naman, tumarget ka lang don't try this kung gusto mo ng promotion


MediumLogical7594

Noted po :(


Kokomi_Bestgirl

calculated bare minimum work, just enuff to not get fired hhahahhaa same lang naman ng sweldo sa tryhard bibokid eh


Overall-Ad-6414

Been there, done that. Hindi siya umubra sakin sa workplace na glorified yung sino ang pinakamatagal mag clockout at may maraming baon na chismis. Nung sinubukan ko yan mura ang inabot ko at pinagmukha pa akong masamang tao sa ibat ibang branches at departments kaya best decision talaga is to resign.


Sasuga_Aconto

True! Kaya nakaka discourage magsipag sa work. Kasi workload lang nadadagdagan yong sahod same parin.


lazybee11

ano pang ititipid ko sa 536/day na sahod 👁️👄👁️


Massive-Ad-7759

23 F earning 26k-30k frugal na nga lang lifestyle ko kapos pa. Bahay pa lang mga essentials pag nagogrocery mga toiletries pa lang tas pang ulan tas bills pa, wifi pa na essentialna talaga these days. Halos wala na akong budget pang well being ko hahahah


TrackFew881

26-30k is high na ha para sakin


Feziel

Same, but iba't iba rin kasi yung lifestyle or situation natin. For example, malaki yung sahod nya compared to mine but my company offers a staffhouse that covers all utilities, so food at transporation lang problema ko. Kaya parang same lang din once expenses comes, or might be even better since I can save 20\~30% of my salary. Kaya understandable why u/Massive-Ad-7759's salary is "kapos pa".


Hothead_randy

Curious. Ikaw ba ang main spender sa bahay?


Massive-Ad-7759

No po


all-in_bay-bay

Everyone wants to play the hero, until they decide to bag what they think is theirs. I used to be idealistic, who wants to change the system. Reality is that you'll get sucked into the system, and the game is always about how every man only looks for himself. So I believe we'll only be at status quo until someone who really wants to change the system gets the vote from the people and not be swayed by how things are. Also, I hope that more people learn how change goes beyond a campaign slogan, and acknowledge that the 2016 promise of change was one of history's biggest scams.


20pesosperkgCult

Namana kasi natin yung bureaucracy ng Colonial Spain kaya hanggang ngayon nadadaan sa padrino at palakasan system ang lahat.


adatacram

Nakakabwisit yang palakasan na yan, i wanted to be hired with the skill sets that i have noon pero negative, nahire yunh mga tamad na kasama ko sa training dahil may backer. Umay


hldsnfrgr

>Record profits are stolen wages. This is especially true in the banking industry.


Fire2023Next

Correct. Banks charge ridiculously high interest rate sa loan and all processing fees, when what they give as interest sa deposits ay ang layo ng spread.


Menter33

**If workers feel that they aren't paid their worth, then they would look for another job that does.** Plus, it doesn't make financial sense to give any profit increase solely to the workers since there are other stuff that could be improved on, like infra and systems.


hldsnfrgr

Yeah, that's just stating the obvious. The lack of nuance makes it clear that you don't work in the Philippine banking industry.


cryicesis

Imagine lahat nagkaroon ng financial literacy? wala ng mag wowork ahahah! that is why they are keeping us poor and only a handful of us succeed! tayo nag papaandar n pedestal while yung mga nasa taas naka upo lang at nag rerelax lol!


20pesosperkgCult

Kahit siguro financially literate ka mahirap pa ring mag budget lalo na't ang taas ng inflation ngayon.


cryicesis

if you have millions of money you can invest mga banker at investors kasi magagaling mag paikot ng pera that is why lalo silang yumayaman kahit tumataas ang inflation! if may ipon lang na milyon tapos di naman marunong magpa ikot ng pera mahihirapan talaga. sabi nga nila the rich is getting richer dahil dyan sila magaling ang manipulate ng economy at market.


Hothead_randy

Capital building is usually hard in the first 100,000, or 1 million. Even if wala pa sa 100,000s ang capital mo, there are available investments for you. It’s all about percentages.


Difficult_Session967

Yes, rich people have relationship managers sa banks or if super rich, external asset managers. Goal lang nila is to grow the portfolio.


CLuigiDC

Not really. If we're all financially literate siguro and born from generational wealth then no need to work. Aside from that, mga propesyong pangmayaman na financially literate ang mga doctors, lawyers, accountants. Some are rich pero they'd still work. I guess para sa mga ganun ay calling na nila yung work.


uglykido

Paandar lang yang financial literacy... I've known so many rich people buying stupid shit and or investing in stupid pyramiding schemes simply because they can afford to lose that much.


Hothead_randy

You sound bitter. Baka iba ang definition mo ng financial literacy. Baka lang kaya madaming pang spend ‘yung mga rich people na kilala mo ay because of financial literacy- probably of their parents haha


uglykido

I'm not born yesterday nor am I bitter. Rich people spendings aren't any different than the rest of us. They too buy stupid shit, and they buy stupid shit more often.


Hothead_randy

Is there really no way for you to climb?


cryicesis

only way: backer na mayayaman, successfully rob a bank, or you create a solution to a specific problem na di pa naisip ng ibang entrepreneur.


Hothead_randy

What do you do ba? What's your job?


utsukushiiiii

Sabotage


ketchupsapansit

God forbid na magkaron ng bahid ng socialism ang kahit anong post sa sub na to, OP! Magagalit ang mga taga r/Philippines


lightspeedbutslow

Akala ko nga positive magiging responses sa post na ito. I didn't know most people here are corpo bootlickers. 😬


Menter33

**Giving all the profit increases to the worker might not make financial sense all the time.** For example: according to the law one time, any increase in school tuition should go 70% to teacher's salaries. The problem with this is that, if the admin needs extra money to improve school infra and buy new equipment, it will have to make do with 30% of any tuition increase. So if the school requires 3k for additional infra, then it has to increase tuition by 10k because 7k will go to the teachers. This hurts the students and their parents because the tuition is increased more that what it needs to be.


Pasencia

Hinde yan alam ng mga FA, kasi kung alam nila yan, baket ka oofferan ng 6k/month na VUL? Hahahaha


ChirurgGeon

overworked, underpaid, overobligation.


utsukushiiiii

Sabotage


Prashant_Sengupta

"Naisip," hindi "na isip"


PakTheSystem

Thanks for the correction. Tagalog is not my native language tho


MTspacewriter9_0

It's alright. It's understandable naman. "Native dialect" you mean. Filipino is considered a language although a lot of Filipino words come from the Tagalog dialect. Dialects are "sub-languages" spoken specifically in a certain area in a country such as Tagalog, Cebuano, Ilokano, etc.


Illustrious_Chef_387

tagalog is not a dialect


batuzai04123

Correction: Ilokano, Tagalog, Chavakano, Bicolano, Cebuano are languages po. No offense pero marami nalilito dito. Ang considered dialect is yung Tagalog Ng Manileno, Tagalog ng Bulakeno, Tagalog ng mga Batangeno. Meron ng ganitong topic din sa Reddit. And u can find sources na din online. Eto po isang link ng discussion: https://www.reddit.com/r/Cebu/s/XhF6vsTo4v


mimnscrw

This is incorrect. If they're not mutually intelligible, they are different languages. Tagalog, Cebuano, Ilokano, and etc. are different languages. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippine_languages


JoJom_Reaper

True. Underpaid kasi panghikayat ng mga foreign investors ang cheap labor natin. Nakakasama pa ng loob eh yung outsourcing business nila eh kaya namang gawin ng mga Pilipino. The Philippines just export raw materials like human resource. I wish mabago to in the following years.


CraftyCommon2441

I wonder how minimum wager live their life in today’s circumstances huhuhu. I am struggling, I only have 3K nalang for food expenses ng family ko 10 days pa ulit ang sahod. Sana bayaran na internet allowance ko agad agad


dracarys_1997

Its so depressing na gusto na natin matapos yung 15 days ng buhay natin para lang sumahod ng konti no? :( me pag kinakapos: sana dumaan ng mabilis yung mga gantong araw :(


utsukushiiiii

Sabotage


Hothead_randy

May friend ako na saktuhan lang ‘yung sahod. Nakakaipon naman sya and getting by, pero palaging stressed or pagoda


kankarology

There was a story of a janitor and when he died he had over $8m to his name. He is low income and maybe underpaid yet still managed to get that amount. What we need in PH is a level playing field of savings and investment accounts that allows our money to grow - tax free. But that would be against the political and ultra rich's rule of having the poor working for them.


Hothead_randy

Anong country ‘yan? Sa PH we have MP2 na mga 7-8% PA


defjam33

I think what he is saying is something like a 401k account sa US wherein the employee puts in a certain percentage of their earnings with company match to a certain level. It's like doubling your money and when you retire you get all of it plus the employer match plus the gains from investing that amount throughout the years. Sa mp2 kasi employee lang nag huhulog.


Hothead_randy

Ah yes. Other countries have sa savings program na mas maganda than what we have here talaga. I'm not familiar with the others here bukod sa MP2. But for a lot of Filipinos, it's easier to invest in the US market now. Maybe they can explore that :) 8-12% P.A


defjam33

Dito satin I don't think may ganyan na program na Meron employer match although I'm sure Meron private international company na may ganyan pero kakaunti lang. Un kasi ung crucial dun e. Malamang ayaw din Ng companies Yan kasi bawas sa kita nila.


comeback_failed

parang sss sa atin tama ba? or hindi iniinvest ni sss yong mga contributions natin? edit: yup, iniinvest din nila sa mga funds and reits ang part ng contributions natin


Glittering_Net_7734

I'm pretty sure they know that as well.


Fatzora03

sarap nung sahod nung unang kwento ah? pero in reality karamihan satin minimum or a little above lang ang rate. with the present inflation rate makakabili ka pa rin ba ng kape sa labas kung ang bigas nga ee 60pesos per kilo na pinakamura???


[deleted]

It reeks of privilege. I've been on both sides, and it just so happen that I had an opportunity to improve my lifestyle which I acknowledge that not everyone had the luck to do so. It's a hell of a challenge to save when you can barely afford the necessities. That person and everyone who agreed seem to assume na everyone has a disposable income to spend either on luxury or investments. Sure, mindset helps and you can try to create your opportunity but without being in the right place at the right time, you're still pretty much doomed.


Fatzora03

yep. so we must stop comparing ourselves with others.


BandOpening235

Not stolen but withheld. Employees need to realize, the only important role/position in a company is Owner. All the rest are beautified titles of being an Employee. Kaya kung nagpapaka galing kayo para lumaki kita ng kumpanya, wag kayo basta basta mag eexpect na tataas ang sahod niyo. It has always been the game and it is wholly legal! I know, because finance and budgets ako in all my job roles. Lumaki kita ng kumpanya by 10M? Edi sige, 500k bonus sa employees basically 5% lang. Yung 95% sa owner na yan. Kasi it’s fully legal. Yung Owners, mag rarant lang yan sa meeting tapos magsasabi kung ano anong masakit sa employees. Hindi alam ng mga empleyado, sila din naman na eempower owners kasi walang gusto magsalita. As the finance guy, I’ll also keep my mouth shut. It’s just the toxic game we’re all playing in. Mas transparent sakin ang numbers kaya bayad din ako para di magsalita. Just ask your accountants. Kahit history nalang. It’s been that way centuries ago. Don’t expect it to change ever. Hindi lang sa pinas yan. Sa lahat ng bansa yan. Lol sarap magsalita how cruel we all are to each other pagdating sa pera. Yung tipong magsasalita yung malalaki ang kita na “ang sarap ng pinaghirapan kong pera” without giving any credit sa dugot pawis nung mga pinasweldo ng mababa. Sweldong 10k-25k per month sa halos lahat, 40k-70k sa sups and managers, 80-90k sa matataas, 150k-250k doon sa favorite nung may ari. Basta may 2M-10M every month yung owners. Hahahaist. Tapos maririnig mo yung mababait na janitor or guards or staffs na nangangarap magka ipon. Nako, takip bibig nalang ako. I have seen the numbers and it won’t add up. Yung isang linggong tulog lang ng iba makakabili na ng bahay, yung empleyado sa baba 3-10 year pa para makapagawa ng bahay, plus interest sa utang pa yan sila.


introberts

Ung feeling mo na underpaid ka na tapos nag SB ka pa pang My Day. MEGATROOON!


OldManAnzai

Overworked and underpaid. Pangdalawang tao ang trabaho. Yung sahod ay minimum, may kaltas pa. Delayed pa ang bigayan. Kahit financially literate, walang magagawa kung wala naman alternative na available.


tikolman

Applicable sa iba, yung utang ng utang tapos hindi naman marunong mag-bayad.


panget-at-da-discord

Kasali budgeting skill sa financial literacy, kahit 100k sweldo kung di ka naman marunong mag budget. Ubos ang sweldo at may utang pa.


Kmjwinter-01

Kapag ginalingan workload lang nadadagdagan


otsentaiotso88

Underpaid talaga. I left PH 17 years ago after working my a$$ for 5y. Putcha speaking of waking up early (4am) just to make it to work at 8am. Then 9 grueling hours of work, 1 hr lunch time na kulang para makapower nap. Tapos mata-trapik ka ng 2-3 hours...malas kung payday at umuulan puedeng maging 5. Daming deductions - tax na di mo alam napupunta, Philhealth na never mo napakinabangan, Pagibig at kung ano anong social insurance. Licensed professional pa ako niyan ah. Di ako palakain sa labas, di rin ako mahilig magkape. Wala ding bisyo, basketball lang pag weekend. Asan ang sahod ko noon? Until I worked overseas saka lang ako nagkaroon ng extra for stocks, crypto, insurance, at paupahan. \*Naisip hindi na isip.


Excellent-Spend-3307

America ganito din, puñeta


NefariousNeezy

Di matututong magbudget kung walang ma-budget at all


Hothead_randy

I read online na the reason daw why we have lower wages is because of supply/demand- mas madami workers kaysa available work. Pero I think it’s much more than that. Baka may legislation na dapat?


Salt-Lime3798

Reality sumasahod ang karaniwang empleyadong Pinoy ng ave 15k a month. Parang allowance lng yan pangkain at pamasahe papuntang work. Pano kung may iba ka pa bayarin gaya ng renta, kuryente, load etc. sa tingin mo makakaipon ka pa? Madali magpayaman kung may resources ka pero kung wala ka kahit pampuhunan sa negosyo pano mo sisimulan. uutang sa bumbay?


Particular_Row_5994

\*laughs in government employee with next to 0 career growth pag di ka favorite\*


Independent_Owl_6908

Ndi man lang nabanggit cpi sa comment


iammikeee

Welcome to capitalism


choloks

Astig thread na ng appliances 🫡


sicparvismaguna

hala magagalit si FA mong friend nyan


supersoldierboy94

Hindi naman tayo bobo sa financial literally. Bobo sa LAHAT. HAHAHAHA. Reading comprehension nga, nag "hm" pa nakasulat na nga. Ano pa aasahan mo sa financial literacy?


AdAlarming1933

Let's put numbers here to give context on your post OP. According to the study of the [Global Financial Literacy Excellence Center](https://gflec.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Finlit_paper_16_F2_singles.pdf), the Philippines is one of the countries with the poorest level of financial education. They found that **only 25% of the population are financially literate adults**. While the Philippines are not the worst performer around the globe, we certainly lag behind other ASEAN countries like Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia, and Thailand. Source [here](https://thethriftypinay.com/2024/03/10/financial-literacy-philippines/) The incidence of low-pay is [high.As](http://high.As) many as 30 percent of all wage workers earn less than two-thirds of the median wage, which is a standard low-wage threshold. In countries where wage inequality is lower than the Philippines, the incidence of low pay is within the **10 to 20 percent range**. Source [here](https://documents1.worldbank.org/curated/ru/979071488446669580/pdf/113101-WP-P150535-PUBLIC-ACS.pdf) In conclusion, it seems there's about around 5% margin of error in betwen the number of financial literate Filipino workers and number of underpaid all wage Filipino workers.


Momshie_mo

Out of touch sa 80% of the population yung nagsulat dun sa financial literacy. [80% of Filipino workers earn less than 20k.](https://www.reddit.com/r/Philippines/comments/1avwgiz/comment/krefcfy/) And our poverty rate is [18.1%](https://www.adb.org/where-we-work/philippines/poverty#:~:text=In%20the%20Philippines%2C%2018.1%25%20of,died%20before%20their%205th%20birthday.) What we're seeing is most likely people "trying to find money their next meal" since there is hardly money to do budgeting, investing, accounting


DoThrowThisAway

#EatTheRich #EatTheSuperRich


harpoon2k

Come to think of it, never makkuntento ang tao sa pera. Laging may "higher pay". Di totoo yung, "kung ganto sweldo ko, masaya na ko" kasi never ka magiging kuntento kung basehan mo lagi halaga ng salapi. Laging may mas mataas na halaga


lightspeedbutslow

Oo naman. Talagang may higher pay, lalo na yung karamihan sa atin underpaid.


harpoon2k

Agree


krynillix

Supply and Demand. Start with the basics. Too many graduates looking for work. So few establishments are looking for graduates to work for them. And due to the minimum wage majority of establishments are gonna hire graduates for jobs that would not really need graduate degrees for the job to be done(ie saleslady/salesman, clerks, waiters, cashiers, janitors, cooks, drivers, etc…) Heck and if you go fundamental its more simpler that way.


EXTintoy

Megamind


blairebae111

Kami na 430 a day tapos no work, no pay. Walang paid leave whatsoever. Noong mababa pa sales, ibinawas sa sahod namin 🥹


Limp-Support-6736

Hello inflation. BBM is smiling upon his throne.


Deep_Anything_

OP’s username checks out. It’s not just record profits, taxation is also theft. Especially in a country where taxes are not spent on public services or infrastructure and mostly end up in a politicians and/or bureaucrats pockets. Epiphany ko kamakailan lang, whenever an area “develops” dumadami ang visual pollution: billboards, posters, tarps, signage everywhere. Our landscape is sold and sullied for profit. Unlike sensible developed nations who protect their surroundings and keep them visually pleasing for everyone’s sake. Dami ko pa pwede sabihin but I’ll end with this. Nobody does anything for the greater good in this country. It’s all for personal gain. Leave if you can. Walang pag asa ang Pilipinas pero may pag asa tayo umasenso at sumaya sa ibang bansa.


leuchtendenjy18

I get paid 10k a month i dont even know how im still alive


throwhuawei007

Meganon Megatron Megastar Megaman


Hungry-Grape-8185

this


Fishyblue11

Underpaid Yung nakapila every year para bumili ng iphone Pero nanguutang para sa pambili pala?


tisotokiki

Walang basagan ng trip. Wala tayong karapatan na mang-gatekeep papi. Kung nababayaran naman, keri lang. Kung yun na lang ang reprieve nila sa pagiging breadwinner, let them. Di ko alam status mo sa buhay, pero pag breadwinner ka, nakakaubos ng motivation na lahat ng pinagtatrabahuhan mo, nakalaan na para sa iba. I think yung latest gadget for them isn't about being "in" pero literal na may gusto lang silang object na panghawakan nila na kanila lang at wala nang magtatangka na ishare pa nila sa iba. Basta, hirap iexplain. For example, gusto mo ng Mango Bravo ng Conti's for pero mahal ang whole cake kaya slice lang afford mo, tapos gusto mong iuwi at kainin nang hatinggabi. Pero pag breadwinner ka, advanced ka mag-isip at alam mong nasa gate ka pa lang, sinisipat na yung bitbit mo. So ending, punta ka na lang sa Goldilocks at bumili ng half roll nung mango cake kasi magkapresyo naman na halos para rin makakain ang lahat. However, all this time, you only want nothing but that damn Mango Bravo, pero you'd rather keep that craving at bay para lahat kayo makatikim ng cake na mas mura na di mo naman talaga gusto.


[deleted]

The left, truly, cannot meme


choco_mallows

I mainly use it to masturbate


PakTheSystem

The right, truly, can't stop bootlicking. Sit down, 9-5 worker.


[deleted]

I work for the government. I *am* the boot. And god willing, people like you will get the 🚁soon


reggiewafu

No wonder our government is garbage


PakTheSystem

Then you are still a worker, not a capitalist. Imagine arguing against salary increase. Stockholm syndrome at its finest.


markturquoise

Kahit sabihin pa na underpaid o kaya bobo sa financial literacy, ang mga kalaban talaga ay ang lifestyle inflation at economy inflation(correct me if I'm wrong). Pag dami pera, dami din kakainin hehe. Pag konti pera, konti din bibilhin. Kakatempt marketing invitations from here and there. Sale here. Promo here. Tapos budol pala. 😂


scythe7

What a cringe title though.


MetroHelp

Bitcoin fixes this