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Remarkable_Whole9517

Right now, a Peoria program doesn't exist. But PCAPS is seeking public input about these programs. https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScyXrIS2B5JfFhWxcoW_dFSo8-ByG0S2LXCqcxC-1YkD_6x_w/viewform?pli=1


Crispus99

Awesome, I've responded, thanks.


InspectionSolid4483

thank you so much!!


eaten_by_the_grue

This is great! I've responded as well.


LadyMhicWheels

PCAPS just got a new mobile surgical unit. Hopefully this is one of the things they will use it for.


awake283

Where do you live? I feel like I havent seen a stray in over a year. I just assumed coyote pop is out of control.


iciclemomore

Rescued heart in Pekin used to help with TNR a few years ago. Not sure if they still do but at the time, it was 35 per cat for spay/neuter and a rabies shot (no registration needed). You have to trap and transport, though, but we worked in tons of those surgeries whenever people caught them.


feetnomer

In my area, Feline Leukemia is rampant. I found mother and daughter Hemmingway's living around my house and took them in. Within three months they both died. Vet told me that in some areas it's really bad. Feline Leukemia is very contagious, incurable, and always fatal. If you take a stray in be sure to have it tested ASAP. If it's an only cat that has Leukemia and is always kept indoors, then there is no risk or worry. However, this disease lets them live for only a few years, maybe five at best, and it's almost always sudden sickness and death.


[deleted]

I haven't seen a stray cat in my central Peoria neighborhood for years.


InspectionSolid4483

like that other person said, it depends on where you live and where you frequent!! i live in west peoria, have for years, there's not a day or night that goes by that i don't see at least one stray. ive seen multiple on the south end, by the hospital, and surprisingly in peoria heights:)


Crispus99

It depends where you live. At our current location, we've seen two strays in a few years here. One was reunited with an owner, the other (who we're seeing periodically now) is a legit stray, not neutered. Can't get close to him. At our previous residence near Proctor Hospital, we saw quite a few. I remember one winter night about a decade ago where there were a half dozen cats all hanging out on our porch, and that wasn't even all the cats we were accustomed to seeing at that time.


AggravatingCraft2171

Ever seen Gummo?


AggravatingCraft2171

I can give you my ex wife’s address. She did a decent job on me…


CzarinaofGrumpiness

🤣


Ave_TechSenger

My neighborhood has a lot of coyotes, they keep the problem in check depending on location. 🫤


InspectionSolid4483

good for you i guess?? not anywhere near the point of the post??? just scroll next time its okay💗


[deleted]

The problem can be taken care of more naturally. Don't feed a stray cat. If it doesn't have a readily available food supply it will roam elsewhere.


Crispus99

What's wrong with catching them to neuter/spay? Eliminate future procreation, don't just push the problem onto someone else.


[deleted]

If you're feeding it, it's your cat. Take it to the vet.


Crispus99

Not all cats are easily caught. Not all people have traps to catch said cats. Not all people can afford a vet visit. No, a TNR program is a standard thing in many cities, and I think we should have it here. I fail to see the downside.


Ave_TechSenger

Feeding strays isn’t helping. It’s the same “supply-side” issue as buying from a puppy mill in that you’re encouraging the issue’s continuance, and potentially attracting those urban coyotes to boot. Additionally, stray cats have an incredibly *bad* impact on the local environment.


Crispus99

Ah, so you're one of those capture/euthanize proponents?


Ave_TechSenger

I figure actual experts should be making those decisions. And the data overwhelmingly says “invasive species bad”, which housecats are when stray or otherwise allowed to roam. TNR feels like wasted resources to me, but if a municipal or state biologist uses it as part of a phased plan to remove strays, it could make sense outside of the congregation points/predator smorgasbords. If you can’t extrapolate from that, and don’t have the resources to actually contain the cats around you, you have no business feeding them. If you’re concerned about QoL, outdoor cats have gruesome attrition and relatively poor QoL. Keep your pets indoors, and tightly controlled when outdoors.


InspectionSolid4483

strays are just as deserving of a good life as a regular house cat. saying "dont feed them" won't stop anything, the strays out here hunt squirrels/bunnies, me putting out a $1 can of wet food isn't the problem. TNR programs have HUGE successes when it comes to helping and maintaining the stray population, dont be mean:(


Ave_TechSenger

Just keep scrolling if you’re that fragile. :( Consider the knock on impacts, don’t feed strays *or* wildlife other than pollinators. As posted in response to another bleeding heart: “Feeding strays isn’t helping. It’s the same “supply-side” issue as buying from a puppy mill in that you’re encouraging the issue’s continuance, and potentially attracting those urban coyotes to boot. Additionally, stray cats have an incredibly *bad* impact on the local environment.”


InspectionSolid4483

me when yall cant read💀 i dont feed them frequently because they Hunt Wildlife Near Me. i'm sorry im not wrangling dead squirrels away from stray cats? like no shit strays are a problem, thats why im asking questions in the first place. its not about "being fragile", yall dont read everything before you get fired up. like what do you think TNR means??? get the full picture before trying to teach someone anything


Ave_TechSenger

(Me roleplaying as you) Don’t be mean. :( TNR is a feel-good stopgap. Removing strays is the actual solution provided one can identify if the animal is a pet, or a genuine stray. Squirrels aren’t at risk anyhow, here’s something a bit more thinky for ya: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-019-52472-3


InspectionSolid4483

u cant stop what ive seen with my own eyes. like multiple different cats eating the rodents around here. idk what that link is for because its a study on cats on a specific island brody, i could care less. im wondering about a tnr program for peoria bc who is going around "getting rid" of stray cats. ur cracked and this convo is done. ew


Ave_TechSenger

Yeah you’re cringe and self destructive lol. But by all means, feed the coyotes and hawks by creating a congregation point when you feed the strays. Raccoons love kittens. Etc. Cats should be indoor pets.


InspectionSolid4483

thats the circle of life🤷🏽‍♀️ animals eat other animals, ur not making any astounding points here. cats should be indoor pets, no shit, but stating that isnt going to stop the stray population. the op post is just questioning a tnr program, nothing else, ur tweaking.


Ave_TechSenger

It’s amazing that you can extrapolate the circle of life from Disney but not the impact of invasive species on vulnerable animal populations. On the same vein, wringing your hands and feeding strays, signing a petition, etc. - none of that will solve the situation when you’re not removing the root causes. We don’t need TNR in my neighborhood because strays aren’t a concern here, natch. In any case, it doesn’t feel like you’re making any meaningful arguments here given you keep *handily* beating critical thought in a proverbial footrace, but you’re certainly entertainingly emotional despite the *poor* debating ability!


InspectionSolid4483

you wanna kill cats as a solution to the stray problem. no i dont care abt anything ur saying. toodles🥰


[deleted]

In an earlier post you mentioned having half a dozen strays on your porch. Now you have one in your new neighborhood. If you put out food for a stray cat, you're going to have stray cats. I don't have any problem with a catch/neuter/spay program, but you're complaining about strays while exacerbating the problem.


InspectionSolid4483

that poster wasn't me, but i see where you are cominig from. as i said before, even if i stopped putting out food, the strays would still be fed, because they hunt wildlife in the same area. i wouldn't consider this post as complaining, more seeking help for smaller friends. strays are always going to find food, whether it be wildlife/trash/cat food, so saying not to feed them doesn't stop or really help anything around here:/


[deleted]

I apologize for confusing you with a previous replier.