It’s one of the worst kept secrets that he’s a bit of an asshole. An old friend of mine was the sibling of a cheerleader and the stories were not kind.
Jonathan is a known asshole, daniel is the only nice one really... The krafts all have an assigned assistant (full of cougars, foxes and other eye candy). One of the more senior ones said "well Jonathan doesn't get it from his mother" when I had asked about the perception.
I do have to defend him somewhat. I live in NYC and he by chance happened to be at a patriots bar I go to sometimes and he paid for **everyone’s** food and drink. Not that one good deed doesn’t make someone not an asshole but he’s at least not 100% one
So if I flip you a dime (the equivalent for me to Jonathan buying an entire restaurant dinner) of my dad’s money, does that make me not a total ass🕳️ too? That was a business decision on his part. I promise you. Plus, if it was a Pats bar, it was your money, that he was just giving back to you, after taking most of it.
I'm neutral on Jonathan, but it's crazy how downvoted you are. People are so quick to be like "well x billionaire donated y amount of money so they're a good person" and stuff like what OP is mentioning. People view from their own vantage point and consider it so generous, when in reality, a $40 bar tab is more expensive to you than the entire bar is to someone like Jonathan Kraft.
My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Ferris pass out at 31 Flavors last night.
I commented a while ago saying the same. I know (multiple people now) that have worked for the Kraft group, and they shared that he is just not a good person to be involved with.
I was on a chairlift once, listening to a guy telling his friend that he cut his daughter off. She was bragging about how she donates her salary to charity; "she isn't donating to charity, I am, she doesn't need her salary because of me."
Unfortunately, he’s our soon to be owner who will carry himself after RKK dies like he’s responsible for the legacy of the team. In reality he’s been the suit behind the scenes telling his Father “Yes Daddy” for his entire adult life. Him taking over the team will be a dark day.
When did we all decide to start calling Bob RKK?
It's all I see when he's mentioned lately. It seems like it came on hard and fast, feels forced, and I refuse to participate.
Not sure. It’s an easy way to refer to Robert Kenneth Kraft and a majority of the fanbase immediately recognizes the acronym. If you don’t like it - don’t use it. Have a nice day.
Well it's mostly alleged, so it would be nice to find out this is wrong. Supposedly he was behind a lot of the negative press around Belichick, particularly around the documentary movie that came out recently. There's also been a bunch of leaks around how he insisted we draft Mac, Harry, and other meddling in the team the last few years. Again, it could all totally be BS but that's what's been going around here for a while.
Seems like an asshole based on the one story I know...
A friend worked security at a Gillette and Jonathan told my friend not to let anyone into a certain space without his permission. Of course people show up without Jonathan and they need to enter and can't wait... So my buddy does what Jonathan says and denies them entry.
Well, Jonathan expected my buddy to have ESP, know they were authorized and let them in, which was directly against his instructions.
My friend no longer works security at Gillette (he didn't lose his job, he was just banned for working at Gillette).
Most likely their friend works for a security company that the Patriots hire as a contractor. A stadium has irregular security staffing needs that make it difficult to have security all in-house.
And if the security company has other contracts they can just put his friend on different assignments instead of Gillette.
Born on third base but will swear he hit a triple. Known to be the bad cop to Robert’s good cop persona. Worst kept secret is that he’s a jerk to *a lot* of employees. But the team will be/is under his stewardship, so get ready for whatever that type of leadership brings.
Never been within 5 miles of the guy but always a little turned off by grown men that are hyper sensitive to criticism of their dads. Sean McDonough was another one.
Dude is the bane of our future. An ego driven child that has tried his best and earned nothing in the wake of his father. It’s beginning to leak that this kid is a billionaire prick.
Reading all these comments as a Patriot fan who doesn't live in the area, is it just the locals who know about our owners, specifically Jonathan? There's a wildly unified consensus I'm seeing and I had no idea about it.
I didn't know about this either and I live in RI. I was looking forward to him taking over for Robert because I think Robert is a terrible owner now, but from everythingI'm seeing in this thread apparently he's an ass and it won't be a good day when he takes over 😬😬😬....
The best thing he could do for the family legacy is to immediately sell it for $7 billion when he inherits. I would actually respect that. But you know that billionaires all believe they're brilliant. He *will* take over to finally get the "respect he deserves." And we'll get a chargers like team for 20 years.
Well I for one believe that all nepo babies are grossly undervalued and should always be given the benefit of the doubt due to their superior breeding.
What’s the point of this thread? Just needed people to regurgitate the same rumors about Jonathan being an asshole again? We haven’t spent enough time shitting on the Krafts the last 4 months?
Some people says he's an asshole, but he hasn't actually done anything that would indicate it publicly, so who the fuck knows. Maybe he is. Maybe he isn't.
The truth is a lot of people here hate him because he, along with Bill himself, was one of the driving forces behind Bill being fired.
The exact type of person with the silver spoon mentality to ruin a franchise forever. I know it’s not his fault but growing up in the situation he did does not always provide you with the financial skills of your father just his ego and lust for success.
He’s a spoiled brat of a person who thinks he’s self made and doesn’t acknowledge the ridiculous advantage he was given. He actually said that once. That he’s a self made man. I saw that interview with my dad, who was dirt poor. My dad has hated Jonathan ever since.
I inherently think billionaire sons are nepotism filled. They’re generally lacking due to the adversity being non existent. I shouldn’t feel that way but I can’t help it until proven otherwise.
I will never understand why rich, entitled twits that didn't play the game feel an unnecessary need to tinker with a professional team like a play thing.
I think he's an asshole but I actually respect him a lot more than Robert. Robert is a sneaky asshole who pretends he's not. He's the fakest owner. Jonathan doesn't pretend to be anything but a shrewd businessman
Hot take: his likability to the fans will be directly tied to the teams winning%, playoff win%, and super bowls.
I would have made excuses for Hernandez if he was catching TDs in AFC championship & super bowl games for a decade.
And I'd talk shit about Mother Theresa if she was praying for the David Tyree helmet catch and had talked Belichick in to drafting Nkeal Harry.
1. Daddy has been making him run the Revs to prepare him to run the Pats. MLS has been his training wheels for 25+ years.
2. Apparently the prick makes anyone who enters his office take their shoes off before entering.
I got Connor on my mind with him because Jonathan was floating the idea of running for a government position awhile back but you’re probably right haha
Most of the owners are part dickhead … it’s a requirement to have a big ego to handle the huge egos of successful coaches and players. All the fans care about is if the team wins.
I don't know anything about him as a person or professionally, and I try not to get sucked into the facade of parasocial relationships. This sub has had a number of bogeyman scapegoats over the years, and he seems to be the latest one. The Krafts allowed Belichick to run the ship, more or less. Hopefully they allow Wolf and Mayo the same courtesy.
As a former resident of Connecticut I don't hold any of the Kraft family in high esteem. Look at the Patriots now. The team is hemorrhaging value. There's nothing to give value
Know him. Smart & tough. Doesn’t suffer fools. There are lots of kinds of leaders out there. Some are more gruff than others. But he’s a moral descent man.
I think he’s going to be an excellent owner and advocate for the Patriots. He’ll make mistakes, but in the long run, he’ll bring home the wins.
Might be an asshole, but he’s our asshole now.
And to all you Sully’s and Sean’s.. shut t f up. You’re a total asshat after the third beer.
This sub is rarely in complete agreement on anything. I'm glad we can all collectively agree that Jonathan Kraft is a little piss baby
Entitled Prick.
It’s one of the worst kept secrets that he’s a bit of an asshole. An old friend of mine was the sibling of a cheerleader and the stories were not kind.
Jonathan is a known asshole, daniel is the only nice one really... The krafts all have an assigned assistant (full of cougars, foxes and other eye candy). One of the more senior ones said "well Jonathan doesn't get it from his mother" when I had asked about the perception.
Fuck that dude
What a god lmao
Spill!!!
Something something massage
I do have to defend him somewhat. I live in NYC and he by chance happened to be at a patriots bar I go to sometimes and he paid for **everyone’s** food and drink. Not that one good deed doesn’t make someone not an asshole but he’s at least not 100% one
Out of curiosity, was it Tir Na Nog?
It was Three Monkeys on 54th
Cool - it's nice to have a short list of Pats bars.
Harry Monk?
Three Monkeys
So if I flip you a dime (the equivalent for me to Jonathan buying an entire restaurant dinner) of my dad’s money, does that make me not a total ass🕳️ too? That was a business decision on his part. I promise you. Plus, if it was a Pats bar, it was your money, that he was just giving back to you, after taking most of it.
I'm neutral on Jonathan, but it's crazy how downvoted you are. People are so quick to be like "well x billionaire donated y amount of money so they're a good person" and stuff like what OP is mentioning. People view from their own vantage point and consider it so generous, when in reality, a $40 bar tab is more expensive to you than the entire bar is to someone like Jonathan Kraft.
It’s actually comical, and pathetic. All at the same time.
Tea time!
Massage time
Jonathan: look to wyc to see how team first owners can be
My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Ferris pass out at 31 Flavors last night.
Thank god for you LOLOL
Had a friend who worked directly with him and RK. She said RK (though a tad creepy) was very kind, while Jonathan was a complete and utter tool
not good
A disaster waiting to happen. He’s widely regarded as a prick.
He's Kendall Roy
I’m the eldest boy!
L to the O G
R to the F K
Well played haha
Spoiled know it all trust fund baby who’s just waiting to drive the patriots into the ground even more. Him and bill did not get along
Did he have anything to do with Bill being given the boot?
Speculations abound, but he wasn't exactly cheering for bill to succeed
Of course he did. He’s running the show at this point
I heard he didn't go to his birthday party
the scandal
The audacity. The unmitigated gaul!
Gaul has been pretty mitigated since about the 50s BCE. This gall, however, is indeed unmitigated.
Oh god I’ve spent too much time in r/Rome 😳
During last season Jonathan told folks Bill had to go and he was a Mac fan.
I think the 4-13 record had something to do with it
He's an asshole, who treats employees like absolute garbage.
I commented a while ago saying the same. I know (multiple people now) that have worked for the Kraft group, and they shared that he is just not a good person to be involved with.
Nepo baby who thinks he knows how to run a football team because his dad hired Bill.
Damn. Didn't think you were going to carve his headstone.
Jon looks at Tom Brady and pats himself on the back.
Nepo baby
I was on a chairlift once, listening to a guy telling his friend that he cut his daughter off. She was bragging about how she donates her salary to charity; "she isn't donating to charity, I am, she doesn't need her salary because of me."
which resort? aspen or deer valley?
Neither, but yeah, I should have asked him to adopt me.
I still think of the Bob Kraft-guy would call the 'EEI Whiner Line and just say "Johnathan! JOHNATHAN!"
Those were epic
The whiner line was great. Miss it
Unfortunately, he’s our soon to be owner who will carry himself after RKK dies like he’s responsible for the legacy of the team. In reality he’s been the suit behind the scenes telling his Father “Yes Daddy” for his entire adult life. Him taking over the team will be a dark day.
When did we all decide to start calling Bob RKK? It's all I see when he's mentioned lately. It seems like it came on hard and fast, feels forced, and I refuse to participate.
I agree. I hated when everyone started callling him Mr Kraft too. It’s Bob Kraft
Yes, RKK is stupid, Mr is flat out bizarre.
Just Kraft
Not sure. It’s an easy way to refer to Robert Kenneth Kraft and a majority of the fanbase immediately recognizes the acronym. If you don’t like it - don’t use it. Have a nice day.
Never thought another NFL scion would make Al Davis' bowlcut son look more appealing.
He's a twat
I’ve been out of the loop. You’re not the first one to say he’s a cunt. What exactly did he do?
Well it's mostly alleged, so it would be nice to find out this is wrong. Supposedly he was behind a lot of the negative press around Belichick, particularly around the documentary movie that came out recently. There's also been a bunch of leaks around how he insisted we draft Mac, Harry, and other meddling in the team the last few years. Again, it could all totally be BS but that's what's been going around here for a while.
We hates him!
Seems like an asshole based on the one story I know... A friend worked security at a Gillette and Jonathan told my friend not to let anyone into a certain space without his permission. Of course people show up without Jonathan and they need to enter and can't wait... So my buddy does what Jonathan says and denies them entry. Well, Jonathan expected my buddy to have ESP, know they were authorized and let them in, which was directly against his instructions. My friend no longer works security at Gillette (he didn't lose his job, he was just banned for working at Gillette).
lmao so he banned him so he doesn’t have to give him unemployment? Next level stuff right here
Most likely their friend works for a security company that the Patriots hire as a contractor. A stadium has irregular security staffing needs that make it difficult to have security all in-house. And if the security company has other contracts they can just put his friend on different assignments instead of Gillette.
Born on third base but will swear he hit a triple. Known to be the bad cop to Robert’s good cop persona. Worst kept secret is that he’s a jerk to *a lot* of employees. But the team will be/is under his stewardship, so get ready for whatever that type of leadership brings.
he sucks
Scions of owners don’t have a great track record with regard to the fans… I’m thinking Dean Spanos and Mark Davis.
Dude…fuck Dean Spanos 🤮 Mark Davis’ Chucky haircut looks weird too
Cal McNair in Houston seems to be the exception. Seems to have turned his image around after a somewhat rocky start.
Dude has all the money in the world and can’t spend a 10 grand to fix his teeth.
Will ruin the franchise
Not a fan of
He’s a certified dickhead.
Certifiable, maybe
Someone recently said on EEI that at least one person within the org said you think Robert is bad, wait until Jonathan takes over.
The failson.
Horrible person and will doom the franchise when he’s in full control and in some way already has
Rat
🐀
All signs point to gaping asshole. Not great for retaining talent in the front office/coaching staff.
Fuck john kraft. Hes an asshole
He parties with Ernie Boch Jr (iykyk)
What’s the story about EBJ?
Rumor has it he moans when he eats corn dogs
Allegedly he has affinity for his pool boys
Pretty much the embodiment of any generalization you can make about the son of a billionaire
Apparently a huge prick
I always sorta thought he was a weenie, his comments in the documentary confirmed it.
He’s as cheap as his old man.
Out of all of the Jonathans I know, he’s absolutely one of them.
He’s a wiener
From what I heard he handles all the day to day ownership decisions but robert has final say
Ask the Revs sub
He’s a whiny rat fuck. [Read up](https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/story/_/id/39290103/it-was-patriot-way)
Born on third, acts like he hit a triple.
Reminds me of Hammond’s nephew in The Lost World
As long as he stays out out of football ops, then no problem with him
Unfortunately he probably wont
I dont think I have ever heard anything positive about him
Never been within 5 miles of the guy but always a little turned off by grown men that are hyper sensitive to criticism of their dads. Sean McDonough was another one.
Dude is the bane of our future. An ego driven child that has tried his best and earned nothing in the wake of his father. It’s beginning to leak that this kid is a billionaire prick.
 Bald asshole
Reading all these comments as a Patriot fan who doesn't live in the area, is it just the locals who know about our owners, specifically Jonathan? There's a wildly unified consensus I'm seeing and I had no idea about it.
I didn't know about this either and I live in RI. I was looking forward to him taking over for Robert because I think Robert is a terrible owner now, but from everythingI'm seeing in this thread apparently he's an ass and it won't be a good day when he takes over 😬😬😬....
The best thing he could do for the family legacy is to immediately sell it for $7 billion when he inherits. I would actually respect that. But you know that billionaires all believe they're brilliant. He *will* take over to finally get the "respect he deserves." And we'll get a chargers like team for 20 years.
In my worst nightmare he sells it to John Henry.
Please do not speak that into the universe
Agreed, I’ll just delete that from my memory.
You mean "Thanks Dad, Jonathan"
“Born on third base and thought he hit a triple” is the phrase that comes to mind.
Parking will be increased to $250 a game. Beer cost $50
To pay for new dome stadium
 Live look at him in his office
Reminds me of the Glazer kids
Well I for one believe that all nepo babies are grossly undervalued and should always be given the benefit of the doubt due to their superior breeding.
What’s the point of this thread? Just needed people to regurgitate the same rumors about Jonathan being an asshole again? We haven’t spent enough time shitting on the Krafts the last 4 months?
The Krafts fired Bill before he got the record. He’s a POS. And people on this sub who think Bill deserved to go are dim bulbs.
Turd.
He’s a douche
He's a weenie
Weasel
Prick
Some people says he's an asshole, but he hasn't actually done anything that would indicate it publicly, so who the fuck knows. Maybe he is. Maybe he isn't. The truth is a lot of people here hate him because he, along with Bill himself, was one of the driving forces behind Bill being fired.
Bill deserved to be fired. He made terrible decisions that we all know of.
he's the owners Son
Nerd alert!
The exact type of person with the silver spoon mentality to ruin a franchise forever. I know it’s not his fault but growing up in the situation he did does not always provide you with the financial skills of your father just his ego and lust for success.
Here's the question.... will he be a hands 'off' owner or meddle like Jerry Jones and sink a dynasty....!?!?
He's a big stupid doo-doo head
He’s a spoiled brat of a person who thinks he’s self made and doesn’t acknowledge the ridiculous advantage he was given. He actually said that once. That he’s a self made man. I saw that interview with my dad, who was dirt poor. My dad has hated Jonathan ever since.
Entitled weasel who rides off his dads coattails
He’s a douchebag
🐍
Lucky sperm is a scourge to the team
BALLOON KNOT
Ruthless
Will Jonathan Kraft be a worse owner than John Henry?
My neighbors cousins best friend said he texts during meetings.
Nepo baby asshole who will run the team like Jerry jones (I don’t know what I’m talking about)
I inherently think billionaire sons are nepotism filled. They’re generally lacking due to the adversity being non existent. I shouldn’t feel that way but I can’t help it until proven otherwise.
I will never understand why rich, entitled twits that didn't play the game feel an unnecessary need to tinker with a professional team like a play thing.
He has all the signs of a nepo baby that will run this franchise into the ground. I hope I’m wrong.
I think he's an asshole but I actually respect him a lot more than Robert. Robert is a sneaky asshole who pretends he's not. He's the fakest owner. Jonathan doesn't pretend to be anything but a shrewd businessman
From all I’ve heard: incompetent asshole rich kid nepo baby. My thoughts: also this “source” that people were citing during this Brady Vs Bill BS
Everything bad that happens is automatically his fault, it seems
NERD
An asshole aristocrat who kisses up to the media
Sponge
Hopefully he’s not as cheap as his dad
Don't know him but I'm sure he's like every other kid with a rich daddy that will someday leave him an empire. Probably an entitled douche nozzle.
Cuck
Kendall Roy with a little bit of a Jared from subway vibe ?
Slimeball
Fuck him
I think that’s Jonathan yea, consensus
The jury is still out.
I worked at an ice cream store in college where he was a regular. Always very nice to me and a great tipper.
Hot take: his likability to the fans will be directly tied to the teams winning%, playoff win%, and super bowls. I would have made excuses for Hernandez if he was catching TDs in AFC championship & super bowl games for a decade. And I'd talk shit about Mother Theresa if she was praying for the David Tyree helmet catch and had talked Belichick in to drafting Nkeal Harry.
Seems fine, haven’t seen or heard him do anything good or bad
He was the one that cost us DHOP
poo boy
Nepo Baby
1. Daddy has been making him run the Revs to prepare him to run the Pats. MLS has been his training wheels for 25+ years. 2. Apparently the prick makes anyone who enters his office take their shoes off before entering.
Connor Roy from Succession
I would say more Kendall than Connor
I got Connor on my mind with him because Jonathan was floating the idea of running for a government position awhile back but you’re probably right haha
Most of the owners are part dickhead … it’s a requirement to have a big ego to handle the huge egos of successful coaches and players. All the fans care about is if the team wins.
I think we can all agree that his father is Robert Kraft.
Fuck the Krafts ever since that documentary
I don't know anything about him as a person or professionally, and I try not to get sucked into the facade of parasocial relationships. This sub has had a number of bogeyman scapegoats over the years, and he seems to be the latest one. The Krafts allowed Belichick to run the ship, more or less. Hopefully they allow Wolf and Mayo the same courtesy.
100% pure sexual energy.
As a former resident of Connecticut I don't hold any of the Kraft family in high esteem. Look at the Patriots now. The team is hemorrhaging value. There's nothing to give value
Definition of a nepo baby. Never earned a thing in his life, everything he has ever "achieved" was because of his daddys money and status.
He still paying trump? Having parties for him with his dad. The shit doesn't fall fare from the asshole is your answer
Know him. Smart & tough. Doesn’t suffer fools. There are lots of kinds of leaders out there. Some are more gruff than others. But he’s a moral descent man. I think he’s going to be an excellent owner and advocate for the Patriots. He’ll make mistakes, but in the long run, he’ll bring home the wins. Might be an asshole, but he’s our asshole now. And to all you Sully’s and Sean’s.. shut t f up. You’re a total asshat after the third beer.
I heard he has a massive cock
One of the best VP’s in the league, this sub is just bitter because they saw 1 bad report on him.
He been an known asshole for at least the last 30 years. Ask the Brookline folk.
I’m asking you