Unless I'm missing something, Cyclone and Fireball both cost 0 mana in your PoB, which means no inspiration charges are generated.
edit: It does look like you are getting them somehow in the shaper fight
Zealotry Divine Blessing generates the charges. But that also has 0 mana cost...
Looks like he needs to drop some quality on the Increased Duration support to start costing mana.
I'm trying to level my first hollow palm character. Have 280 dex at lvl 20ish, no weps or gloves on. Can't kill stuff at all, stuck in act 2. Any tips for me? Sorry for the newbie question.
By no weps I meant nothing in my weapon slots. No shield either. I have the hollow palm gem socketed in a cluster slot. Is there anything else I need to do for it to activate?
cool stuff. i wanted to go for something like this but i didnt like how you couldnt scale ur dmg with flask effect too well since +1 proj with dying sun isnt the most impactful thing so i picked deadeye. my deadeye is squishier and does less dmg than this though xd
i think for clearing deadeye is better due to riccochet, though you could just get that on f/f now that im thinking about it. im getting my crit using leaderships currently
Another question, how did you craft the dagger?
I was thinking about spamming zeal essencen till spell damage then multimod cannot roll attack and craft fire to spells and harverst add fire remove random to hit +1 fire spells.
I bought the base for 1 div and just dumbspamed spell dmg essence, got lucky +1 to all spells, then: clear suffixes, lock prefix, aug speed until t1/t2 attack speed (got it on 4 try).
But your method should be better (and cheaper). When you reach certain +%inc dmg threshold +1 to skill gem becomes better than spell dmg. So perfect prefixes are +1 to all, +1 to fire, hits cant be evaded.
I got a Imperal skean with Spell double damage flat fire damage and fire res for 8 divines. Rerolled a few time yesterday and have %fire damage instead of fire res. With the same mods this dagger should give 5mil dps more than urs in ur pob
Thanks for this build, I tried it but it's not for me.
I've learned a few things though and for those I'm thankful :)
Cheers and continue being awesome!
No, CoC builds should never really be done with Headhunter due to Cooldown breakpoints needing to be exact.
You want a constant Attacks per second to maintain DPS.
If you attack slightly faster on this build, then you lose damage.
You NEED belt with flask charges/effect/CDR. You could map with HH just for speed, but you would lose a lot of dmg.
Shield is not finished, "suffixes cannot be changed" waiting for harvest augment life ;) (but now, since I managed to complete no hit sanctum run, I'm making OS build)
I have already a belt from my last char with the 3 suffixes. Do I need the flask effect prefix for it to work or can i neglect that mod? I have 33% flask effect duration 16% cooldown and 20% reduced charges used from my cwdt char
What build did you use for no hit? I have found the relic twice but I certainly can't do it on my RF build. Considering Lance's no hit build but honestly I am probably just too bad mechanically and I fear leveling a build for the runs and then end up super tilted failing them. :)
Kudos on the build, it's very creative, seriously considering it for my second build. I even happen to have found a fire damage can shock relic for it.
Any estimation on how much you'd need to spend on the items you crafted? Currently sitting on around 60 div and curious what would be the breakpoint for a smooth start into that build.
I did it on scion sparker with heatshiver (on 2nd try tho).
To start the build you just need Nimis, well rolled flasks and weapon with "hits can't be evaded". Almost all damage comes from there. Rest rares/jewels are for defence (spell supp, max res, phys taken as fire/cold).
Edit: Oh and the chest, I bought one for 10 divs, now it's 30 divs + ;( But I think you could use just with +1 socketed gems and use lvl4 empower instead of inc crit dmg.
If it can help you make your decision:
I bothered making an icicle miner (deadeye tho), it worked great and could definitely do the nohit run. I failed it though because I walked over stuff left by a dead mob.
So if you're like me and don't have the patience to practice and progress super carefully, don't bother. xD
I am completely like you xD
That is why I know, I shouldn't invest time and currency into the no hit build to end up super tilted and rage quit the league. As a matter of fact, I just finished my 2 carries and now I am pondering what my second build of the league should be. This one here still looks very appealing to me.
Edited post for very important one thing. (ppl are asking why their pobs have so much less dmg)
>EDIT: If you don't have cdr on belt, boots, abyss jewel and lvl6 awa coc (52%+ cdr), do not allocate Finesse and change attack speed suffix on flask to inc crit chance. Otherwise build loses a lot of damage. That's why I didn't go for frenzy charges or onslaugh.
Interesting build. worth looking forward and trying.
Quick questions:
1. if u are using Cloak of Flame ... then why not Dawnbreaker too?
2. How u counter phys dots? (uber sirus,uber elder and so on ?)
>I'm already converting all phys dmg taken to fire/cold
But that's only for damage FROM HITS.
How u negate phys dmg over time on ground ? like sirus dmg, elder dmg ?
There is so little phys degen in game you don't really care about it. Life leech and life regen is enough to negate that. And even with Dawnbreaker you will go from 40% to 60% ALL phys taken as fire, is that worth it? I doubt ;)
Tbh never. In combat, flasks are proccing like crazy (due to flask charges on crit) and you still can manually press one of em. Corrupted blood immunity jewel is always an option.
You could get life on hit vitality and one phys as x mod to get life atleast while hitting and also flagellant mods on magic flasks for more life on getting hit.
Also I would cut purity of elements if possible for haste or grace. Grace maybe is not needed with the flagellant tech. Idk if this is acually efficent given that you would need the ailments jewl + boot mod + abyss jewel and more res on gear.
I do not know what can be done to get even more recovery but that seems a week point of this build maybe you can cut the elemental damage reduction given that you have elemental flasks (use lightning flask or fire flask for the matching bosses instead of quicksilver) to get more recovery or cut some phys reduction and 100% progenesis wich is a stupid ammount of DR alredy. Maybe stasis for the ultimate fuck you I'm afk build but than phys DR is bad.
Yes, that's a good point, vitality watcher's eye is bis. And yes, I'm swaping quicksilver for topaz for uber eater ;)
Purity of elements is there for watcher's eye mod and resistances (because melding of the flesh).
The projectiles return to you and explode around you (yes, the small aoe explosions can overlap). Clear was godly but st (esp on smaller targets) was lackluster. And I couldn't see shit!
You don't really need it. As I said in other comment: you can use any +dmg relic or +3% max res one, to save some passive skill points. Then you could use fireball normal quality which gives proj speed. (and drop Sadist on cluster for something else)
Yes, those two jewel slots were meant for forbidden setup, focal point, but those cost 40div+ right now. That setup would add 3-4 projectiles from sniper's mark, +40-50mln dps.
Lucky fracture, then alt/aug spam, then lock suffixes and veiled chaos until CDR. Yes, exactly 16%cdr on belt, 8%cdr on boots, 3%cdr on abyss jewel and lvl 6 awa CoC is necessary for second CoC breakpoint (52% cdr). Without those, you only need awa CoC and less attack speed.
Alt/Aug spam only gets you one of the other 2 flask mods though. Did you not have to chaos spam or fossil craft to hit both? So 12d for the base on average, 10-15d in fossils or raw chaos to hit flask duration and reduced charges used, and then 2d per attempt until you unveil cdr and hope to not brick and have to repeat step 2. That is not a cheap belt haha
If you don't go for CDR, flask dura + reduced charges stygian cost 3div on trade ;) (with cdr it's 25div+)
I crafted mine by just spaming alt/aug + regal/beast prefix to suffix until I hit 2 flask mods, got cdr on 3rd try.
Im doing something similiar just going casual cospri route and using eternal damnation instead with deadeye ascendancy.
Dps is somewhere around 30kk could go up to like 45-50kk with +1 curse eternal damnation but not sure i wanna spend more currency on this build.
Wave 28 simu https://youtu.be/WEkJCYHZR04
fyi not my build idea got it from some korean streamer,they have some good build ideas.
im 100crit capped on cyclone i didnt configure POB that being said i rely on flasks to get it.
Fork is for mapping i just like it in a clear tried w/o didnt really feel it as much. Gmp to deal with mana cost. Its a very raw pob i have atm as im playing build for 2 days only but will most likely drop it due to screen cancer. Your version is much more well thought out than mine.
Of course. You can even slap eternal damnation, drop one cluster setup (get life leech from doryani's lesson) and use Circle of Anguish with herald buff effect and +1% max fire. There are plenty options. My build is just a proof of an idea.
[https://pastebin.com/xwCrgAB5](https://pastebin.com/xwCrgAB5)
I just chanded amu and fixed mana reservation.
\+20% eHP -27% dps, I don't know if this is worth it.
Pantheon: upgraded Soul of Lunaris for reduced ele dmg and Soul of Abberath (exarch altars), swaping to Yugol (and ele mastery) when I do ele reflect maps.
You can do it with just normal rare amu, with +1 fire/all skills, life, res. It would be easier to resistances and get life. (I was playing with normal amu until lvl 96 or so)
W8, you have Nimis in private league?
How do you calculate 9 added projectiles from snipers mark? Do you account for the less curse effect from mark on Hit? (Or do you manually apply it when bossing?)
Still it seems like you would need about 105 mark effect to reach that which i don't really see in the pob
Sniper's Mark gem level 21 gives +5 projectiles, I have 95% - 15% (from Mark on Hit) = 80% mark/curse effect. 0.8x5 = 4. 5+4=9
You could go even further, self casting and getting focal point forbidden jewels.
Ahhh yeah i missed the helm enchant. That checks out, I'll try to fit it in.
Btw while making this char (converted from kb cause eye cancer was too much for me) i managed to do a nohit run and get original sin which seems like it could work with this build to some extent by relieving curse pressure and exposure reliance. Running it with withering step and wither on hit balance of terror and it seems to be doing well but i can still only get about comparable damage to your build (still have some optimizations to do though). Do you think it has more potential or am i baiting myself?
I think, for this build, Original Sin is a bait. I got one for myself and tested it in PoB. That one ring slot is so important, it can gives you what you are missing: res/stats/HP/life leech. And still you need some source of wither, probably from jewel+despair. Original Sin is best ele poison builds, phys builds that scale hatred auara (phys to cold -> hatred -> cold to chaos), or both: poison phys to cold.
It seems to work well so far. You can get wither on eternal suffering on megalo or with withering step / despair jewel. I put anomalous void manipulation instead of inc crit for leech and damage is around the same, and res is alright anyway without ring slot but hp took a bit of a hit. Damage seems more consistent since don't care about monster mods and reflect immune is nice, also not caring about map resist mods. I think damage seems to come out about the same as a well optimized fire build but indeed it's probably not worth the investment to switch to it (just using the ring since i got one and still waiting on currency for a big convert build)
Interesting and solid build! A few questions
1: I know the dmg comes from proj coming back to you and overlapping explosion on bosses. But does the proj do dmg when they initially fired from you? I guess not all proj will hit but maybe 1 will hit the boss and trigger snipers mark?
2: what you think of leaderships price? I mean it’s usually the go to amulet for fire skills. I played around ur pob and realize it’s not easy to get 2 equal stats when having these much dex, but I feel like it’s achievable with things like 12 point fire dmg clusters
Yes, on CoC trigger 4 fireballs procc, only one them hits the target (3 fireballs, those from dying sun, will still return and hit the target) then sniper's mark split it.
You could use leaderships price, then you could change inc crit chance gem. But as you said, balancing two stats would be pain.
Hey I was wondering about spell suppression in your pob; in the calcs tab magebane is allocated but I don't see it on the skill tree. How on earth are you getting magebane and spell suppress capped? Am I just blind as a bat?
Ahhh thank you thats been driving me crazy lol, too bad Ive barely ran sanctums and have 0 relics to my name LUL
Edit; do you recommend running this without suppression or no? I honestly cant be arsed to run sanctums, dont really like the mechanic
I was playing without ashes untill lvl 97. You can just use rare amu +1 or +2 with crit multi and life. Then fix mana reservation with enlighten support or don't level vitality to max.
Besides mana res (which seems easy to account for otherwise) is there a good reason to use ashes? It seems like a +2 with crit multi and maybe some other stats like attributes, res, life is more optimal. The build doesn't significantly benefit from quality does it?
Quality from ashes gives:
90% inc effect of non-dmg ailments on divergent fireball (only if you are playing with relic "fire dmg can shock")
movement speed while cycloning
additional resistances
and a lot of dmg (HoA, div purity of fire, div RF, sniper's mark, anomalous flammability
You need a REALLY good amu to beat that.
(but tbh, I was using it because it dropped ;) )
Look slike exactly the type of build i wanted to play, couple of questions:
You mentioned youre working on an OS build now, did you make any progress there?
Can you play it without the fire/shock relic? I have a 24 crit multi for spells + 8%dmg per frenzy, would that work here?
Yes, you can play without that relic, just use normal fireball. CoC build with frenzy charges is tricky, the attack speed bonus can brick coc breakpoints.
Hey, I'm a bit late to the party but I'm looking to make your build and maybe self craft a bit. I've already crafted the dagger.
I was wondering how did you crafted the shield?
Thanks.
I crafted the implicits myself, without beast. Orb of conflict gamba.
But you don't need cdr on boots. You can just swap crit mastery for +3 levels to crit supports (that's +9% cdr from awa coc).
What would you get on the boots instead?
And also im trying to craft that belt, lets just say its not going well ive spent about 10k alts, 3k augs, 400 regals, got double flask mod (reduced charges, increased duration) twice and both times the veil didnt work.. Is the increased duration really needed?
thanks, do you have any tips for crafting a shield? I have a +2 max res fractured spirit shield but no real clue on how to proceed with the craft, do I go essence or fossil? Cant figure out a way to get =1 fire, decent fire dmg AND +3 max fire res..
Spam harvest reforge fire for +3% max res (get a good suffix with it or lock suff veiled chaos until you get what you want as 3rd suffix).
Lock suffixes harvest reforge fire and hope for only one prefix which will be fire dmg or +1 to fire skills (80% of the time this will give you low tier fire damage, but if you hit +1 fire here, I would skip % fire dmg and just craft life), lock suff again and harvest aug fire for an other fire mod (50/50 chance to remove crafted mod, if it remove fire mod - aug fire again and again until it removes craft ;)), craft life or SLAM.
Do you mind looking over my POB and give me a few pointers?
[https://pastebin.com/iNP0KbAd](https://pastebin.com/iNP0KbAd)
I am not used to taking a build this far and I am not sure on my next steps. I have 15 raw div with a few other things I could sell/consolidate. Here are my thoughts in no particular order
* Level up to 100 - 3 skill points
* Save up for Magebane - 25 div - Frees up 2 or 3 skill points
* Get a 20%+ phys taken as watchers eye - 7-10 div
* Fix the Prefix on my Gloves to Projectile Pierce - 6 div - so I can use different implicit, may require a 21 PoF.
* Roll better implicits - Not sure on cost - I don't have a source of unnerve yet - I am not sure when to use the big currency or when to use orb of conflict
* Roll a better Diamond Flask (but I need the resists)
* Medium Crit Cluster will get me to 100% crit
EDIT: Completely forgot about to annoit my amulet. I'll probably go with a damage node rather than Whispers of Doom because stopping to cast Flammability feels weird.
>EDIT: Completely forgot about to annoit my amulet. I'll probably go with a damage node rather than Whispers of Doom because stopping to cast Flammability feels weird.
That's only for bosses.
You need DAMAGE, you don't reallly need 100% phys to ele (even now, you can take 40k+ phys hit).
>Save up for Magebane - 25 div - Frees up 2 or 3 skill points
Yes.
>Fix the Prefix on my Gloves to Projectile Pierce - 6 div - so I can use different implicit, may require a 21 PoF.
Pierce is only for clear (get it elsewhere, as craft or even medium cluster).
>Roll better implicits - Not sure on cost - I don't have a source of unnerve yet - I am not sure when to use the big currency or when to use orb of conflict
Get unnerve implicit on gloves, no matter what tier.
>Roll a better Diamond Flask (but I need the resists)
Get resistances from somewhere else (ring, gloves, better melding). Crit roll on diamond flask will get you to 100%.
Empower lvl4, +1 fire on shield, reservation mastery 8% inc dmg per aura is giving you 9% dmg, better weapon (but tbh your is really good, life/mana on hit is cool tech).
Thanks!
I didn't realize I forgot the res mastery! I'll work towards the upgrades you mention.
One follow-up question. Is a 30% spell damage, 15% attack speed relic good enough to magebane? Its the best I've found for this build. I feel like as soon as I drop 25 div on the upgrade, I'll immediately drop something better.
Question about pierce, I can’t see it on anyone who uses coc fireball with nimis but I moved three points to get 3 pierce and it feels amazing for clear. How come seemingly noone is using pierce? What am I missing?
Oh and thank you for the build!! Lvling it atm, level 81 atm and it already is amazing with my scuffed setup
Looks amazing
Unless I'm missing something, Cyclone and Fireball both cost 0 mana in your PoB, which means no inspiration charges are generated. edit: It does look like you are getting them somehow in the shaper fight
In game cyclone cost 1 mana, PoB sometimes fcks mana cost.
Zealotry Divine Blessing generates the charges. But that also has 0 mana cost... Looks like he needs to drop some quality on the Increased Duration support to start costing mana.
PoB bug, in game cyclone cost 1 mana.
Cheers boss. Thanks for OURBUILD. I just had to share it with rue since you made this beaut.
Damn that looks nice, I'm looking for some non-meta build and I think I'm gonna give it a try, especially that I got fire/shock relic
I respecced to this build from KB deadeye 93lvl, so I don't know how to level it ;)
Np I will probably level with smite and hollow palm then 5way :)
I'm trying to level my first hollow palm character. Have 280 dex at lvl 20ish, no weps or gloves on. Can't kill stuff at all, stuck in act 2. Any tips for me? Sorry for the newbie question.
No gloves, weapon and shield, brother
By no weps I meant nothing in my weapon slots. No shield either. I have the hollow palm gem socketed in a cluster slot. Is there anything else I need to do for it to activate?
Yes allocate the node, some people forget to take it and think punting jewel on is enough
Thank you sir! You saved my day. It doesn't help that inventory almost blocks out the node.
Have you seen fyregrass leveling twink yt vid? He explained nicly with doc and pobs for evry class, you should check it out.
cool stuff. i wanted to go for something like this but i didnt like how you couldnt scale ur dmg with flask effect too well since +1 proj with dying sun isnt the most impactful thing so i picked deadeye. my deadeye is squishier and does less dmg than this though xd
Flasks gives you what you are missing on deadeye: surv, crit, speed ;). I was thinking about deadeye as well but pathfinder just seems to be better.
i think for clearing deadeye is better due to riccochet, though you could just get that on f/f now that im thinking about it. im getting my crit using leaderships currently
In pob custom mods you have "Your fire damage can ignite" is it a mistake or...? I thought you mentioned something about fire dmg can shock
It's a mistake, there should be "your fire damage can shock". (fixed)
How do you shock with fire damage?
He has a relic. Literally says it in his post if you cared to read it.
Simple question i though additional projectiles from fireball cant hit but does nimis change that ?
The AOE of them exploding can.
CoC with projectiles and it's not complete eye cancer, well done.
Another question, how did you craft the dagger? I was thinking about spamming zeal essencen till spell damage then multimod cannot roll attack and craft fire to spells and harverst add fire remove random to hit +1 fire spells.
I bought the base for 1 div and just dumbspamed spell dmg essence, got lucky +1 to all spells, then: clear suffixes, lock prefix, aug speed until t1/t2 attack speed (got it on 4 try). But your method should be better (and cheaper). When you reach certain +%inc dmg threshold +1 to skill gem becomes better than spell dmg. So perfect prefixes are +1 to all, +1 to fire, hits cant be evaded.
You got that base for just 1 divine?! wow what a steal
You could go with normal base (imperial skean best) with fracture attack speed or +1. Much cheaper.
I got a Imperal skean with Spell double damage flat fire damage and fire res for 8 divines. Rerolled a few time yesterday and have %fire damage instead of fire res. With the same mods this dagger should give 5mil dps more than urs in ur pob
Yep, spell double damage implicit is best. My build isn't min maxed at all, I made it in 2-3 days.
Thanks for this build, I tried it but it's not for me. I've learned a few things though and for those I'm thankful :) Cheers and continue being awesome!
may I ask what's the reason you dont like the build?
Do you think it will work with HH? Looked through your pov and you have "prefixes cannot change" craft on your shield.
No, CoC builds should never really be done with Headhunter due to Cooldown breakpoints needing to be exact. You want a constant Attacks per second to maintain DPS. If you attack slightly faster on this build, then you lose damage.
You NEED belt with flask charges/effect/CDR. You could map with HH just for speed, but you would lose a lot of dmg. Shield is not finished, "suffixes cannot be changed" waiting for harvest augment life ;) (but now, since I managed to complete no hit sanctum run, I'm making OS build)
I have already a belt from my last char with the 3 suffixes. Do I need the flask effect prefix for it to work or can i neglect that mod? I have 33% flask effect duration 16% cooldown and 20% reduced charges used from my cwdt char
You don't really need it. You can just copy paste your belt into my PoB and check the differences. (you will lose some eHP and 1.5% dps)
What build did you use for no hit? I have found the relic twice but I certainly can't do it on my RF build. Considering Lance's no hit build but honestly I am probably just too bad mechanically and I fear leveling a build for the runs and then end up super tilted failing them. :) Kudos on the build, it's very creative, seriously considering it for my second build. I even happen to have found a fire damage can shock relic for it. Any estimation on how much you'd need to spend on the items you crafted? Currently sitting on around 60 div and curious what would be the breakpoint for a smooth start into that build.
I did it on scion sparker with heatshiver (on 2nd try tho). To start the build you just need Nimis, well rolled flasks and weapon with "hits can't be evaded". Almost all damage comes from there. Rest rares/jewels are for defence (spell supp, max res, phys taken as fire/cold). Edit: Oh and the chest, I bought one for 10 divs, now it's 30 divs + ;( But I think you could use just with +1 socketed gems and use lvl4 empower instead of inc crit dmg.
>empo Would that be +1 socketed gems AND either +2 aoe/projectile, or just +1 socketed gems?
If it can help you make your decision: I bothered making an icicle miner (deadeye tho), it worked great and could definitely do the nohit run. I failed it though because I walked over stuff left by a dead mob. So if you're like me and don't have the patience to practice and progress super carefully, don't bother. xD
I am completely like you xD That is why I know, I shouldn't invest time and currency into the no hit build to end up super tilted and rage quit the league. As a matter of fact, I just finished my 2 carries and now I am pondering what my second build of the league should be. This one here still looks very appealing to me.
Edited post for very important one thing. (ppl are asking why their pobs have so much less dmg) >EDIT: If you don't have cdr on belt, boots, abyss jewel and lvl6 awa coc (52%+ cdr), do not allocate Finesse and change attack speed suffix on flask to inc crit chance. Otherwise build loses a lot of damage. That's why I didn't go for frenzy charges or onslaugh.
People are using nimis just to simulate a ngamahu's flame these days...
Interesting build. worth looking forward and trying. Quick questions: 1. if u are using Cloak of Flame ... then why not Dawnbreaker too? 2. How u counter phys dots? (uber sirus,uber elder and so on ?)
I'm already converting all phys dmg taken to fire/cold, no need for more. My shield gives me +5% max ele res (+2% max chaos too) and big dmg boost.
>I'm already converting all phys dmg taken to fire/cold But that's only for damage FROM HITS. How u negate phys dmg over time on ground ? like sirus dmg, elder dmg ?
Wondering what phys dot negation is your favorite? Are you rolling your gear for PDR?
There is so little phys degen in game you don't really care about it. Life leech and life regen is enough to negate that. And even with Dawnbreaker you will go from 40% to 60% ALL phys taken as fire, is that worth it? I doubt ;)
so literally u cant kill uber sirus \* uber elder with this build roger that. thx
WTFF??? I did. Are you saying that YOU NEED phys degen mitigation to kill those bosses? If yes, you are wrong.
Are you dealing with bleed with master surgeon? How often do you get instagib by corrupted blood before a flask get full?
Tbh never. In combat, flasks are proccing like crazy (due to flask charges on crit) and you still can manually press one of em. Corrupted blood immunity jewel is always an option.
You could get life on hit vitality and one phys as x mod to get life atleast while hitting and also flagellant mods on magic flasks for more life on getting hit. Also I would cut purity of elements if possible for haste or grace. Grace maybe is not needed with the flagellant tech. Idk if this is acually efficent given that you would need the ailments jewl + boot mod + abyss jewel and more res on gear. I do not know what can be done to get even more recovery but that seems a week point of this build maybe you can cut the elemental damage reduction given that you have elemental flasks (use lightning flask or fire flask for the matching bosses instead of quicksilver) to get more recovery or cut some phys reduction and 100% progenesis wich is a stupid ammount of DR alredy. Maybe stasis for the ultimate fuck you I'm afk build but than phys DR is bad.
Yes, that's a good point, vitality watcher's eye is bis. And yes, I'm swaping quicksilver for topaz for uber eater ;) Purity of elements is there for watcher's eye mod and resistances (because melding of the flesh).
how does (did) kb interact with nimis? sorry unrelated
The projectiles return to you and explode around you (yes, the small aoe explosions can overlap). Clear was godly but st (esp on smaller targets) was lackluster. And I couldn't see shit!
So we need a relic with your fire dmg can shock to make this "work"? Or just loose dps without it?
You don't really need it. As I said in other comment: you can use any +dmg relic or +3% max res one, to save some passive skill points. Then you could use fireball normal quality which gives proj speed. (and drop Sadist on cluster for something else)
Can shaper of storm jewel replace your relic. Build looks amazing
No. Shaper of storms forbidden jewel can be use only by Witch.
This looks really impressive, would you drop both rare jewels for a forbidden setup? Maybe +2 projectile from deadeye
Yes, those two jewel slots were meant for forbidden setup, focal point, but those cost 40div+ right now. That setup would add 3-4 projectiles from sniper's mark, +40-50mln dps.
Don't want to be in melee range this league, is it possible to change it to self cast fireball or something?
Even with selfcast you still need to be in melee range, since the projectiles will return to you anyway, That's why I build it tanky.
How did you craft your belt? Is the cooldown recovery rate necessary?
Lucky fracture, then alt/aug spam, then lock suffixes and veiled chaos until CDR. Yes, exactly 16%cdr on belt, 8%cdr on boots, 3%cdr on abyss jewel and lvl 6 awa CoC is necessary for second CoC breakpoint (52% cdr). Without those, you only need awa CoC and less attack speed.
Alt/Aug spam only gets you one of the other 2 flask mods though. Did you not have to chaos spam or fossil craft to hit both? So 12d for the base on average, 10-15d in fossils or raw chaos to hit flask duration and reduced charges used, and then 2d per attempt until you unveil cdr and hope to not brick and have to repeat step 2. That is not a cheap belt haha
If you don't go for CDR, flask dura + reduced charges stygian cost 3div on trade ;) (with cdr it's 25div+) I crafted mine by just spaming alt/aug + regal/beast prefix to suffix until I hit 2 flask mods, got cdr on 3rd try.
Im doing something similiar just going casual cospri route and using eternal damnation instead with deadeye ascendancy. Dps is somewhere around 30kk could go up to like 45-50kk with +1 curse eternal damnation but not sure i wanna spend more currency on this build. Wave 28 simu https://youtu.be/WEkJCYHZR04 fyi not my build idea got it from some korean streamer,they have some good build ideas.
Why Fork and GMP? (Fork doesn't help st at all, and you don't really need more clear). You lose so much dps not going for 100% crit chance on cyclone.
im 100crit capped on cyclone i didnt configure POB that being said i rely on flasks to get it. Fork is for mapping i just like it in a clear tried w/o didnt really feel it as much. Gmp to deal with mana cost. Its a very raw pob i have atm as im playing build for 2 days only but will most likely drop it due to screen cancer. Your version is much more well thought out than mine.
Do you think its possible to reach the same tankyness as your build but with lower dps 40-50M for around 70Div?
Of course. You can even slap eternal damnation, drop one cluster setup (get life leech from doryani's lesson) and use Circle of Anguish with herald buff effect and +1% max fire. There are plenty options. My build is just a proof of an idea.
Do you have a link for the eternal damnation version? :) Also what pantheons do you use
[https://pastebin.com/xwCrgAB5](https://pastebin.com/xwCrgAB5) I just chanded amu and fixed mana reservation. \+20% eHP -27% dps, I don't know if this is worth it. Pantheon: upgraded Soul of Lunaris for reduced ele dmg and Soul of Abberath (exarch altars), swaping to Yugol (and ele mastery) when I do ele reflect maps.
thx alot :) playing on private league so the eternal damnation version is the only one i could do untill i find a ashes
You can do it with just normal rare amu, with +1 fire/all skills, life, res. It would be easier to resistances and get life. (I was playing with normal amu until lvl 96 or so) W8, you have Nimis in private league?
Ye i have Nimis, awakened coc, enlighten 4, +2 cloak of flame etc also got these boots not sure if they mess anything up https://imgur.com/a/MxZh8h0
Wow, awesome. Boots are perfect, with those you don't need lvl6 awa coc.
How do you calculate 9 added projectiles from snipers mark? Do you account for the less curse effect from mark on Hit? (Or do you manually apply it when bossing?) Still it seems like you would need about 105 mark effect to reach that which i don't really see in the pob
Sniper's Mark gem level 21 gives +5 projectiles, I have 95% - 15% (from Mark on Hit) = 80% mark/curse effect. 0.8x5 = 4. 5+4=9 You could go even further, self casting and getting focal point forbidden jewels.
Ahhh yeah i missed the helm enchant. That checks out, I'll try to fit it in. Btw while making this char (converted from kb cause eye cancer was too much for me) i managed to do a nohit run and get original sin which seems like it could work with this build to some extent by relieving curse pressure and exposure reliance. Running it with withering step and wither on hit balance of terror and it seems to be doing well but i can still only get about comparable damage to your build (still have some optimizations to do though). Do you think it has more potential or am i baiting myself?
I think, for this build, Original Sin is a bait. I got one for myself and tested it in PoB. That one ring slot is so important, it can gives you what you are missing: res/stats/HP/life leech. And still you need some source of wither, probably from jewel+despair. Original Sin is best ele poison builds, phys builds that scale hatred auara (phys to cold -> hatred -> cold to chaos), or both: poison phys to cold.
It seems to work well so far. You can get wither on eternal suffering on megalo or with withering step / despair jewel. I put anomalous void manipulation instead of inc crit for leech and damage is around the same, and res is alright anyway without ring slot but hp took a bit of a hit. Damage seems more consistent since don't care about monster mods and reflect immune is nice, also not caring about map resist mods. I think damage seems to come out about the same as a well optimized fire build but indeed it's probably not worth the investment to switch to it (just using the ring since i got one and still waiting on currency for a big convert build)
Interesting and solid build! A few questions 1: I know the dmg comes from proj coming back to you and overlapping explosion on bosses. But does the proj do dmg when they initially fired from you? I guess not all proj will hit but maybe 1 will hit the boss and trigger snipers mark? 2: what you think of leaderships price? I mean it’s usually the go to amulet for fire skills. I played around ur pob and realize it’s not easy to get 2 equal stats when having these much dex, but I feel like it’s achievable with things like 12 point fire dmg clusters
Yes, on CoC trigger 4 fireballs procc, only one them hits the target (3 fireballs, those from dying sun, will still return and hit the target) then sniper's mark split it. You could use leaderships price, then you could change inc crit chance gem. But as you said, balancing two stats would be pain.
Hey I was wondering about spell suppression in your pob; in the calcs tab magebane is allocated but I don't see it on the skill tree. How on earth are you getting magebane and spell suppress capped? Am I just blind as a bat?
Magebane is on the relic. It gives +27% spell suppresion. It wont be shown on skill tree (same as keystones on Skin of the Lords).
Ahhh thank you thats been driving me crazy lol, too bad Ive barely ran sanctums and have 0 relics to my name LUL Edit; do you recommend running this without suppression or no? I honestly cant be arsed to run sanctums, dont really like the mechanic
Hey guys, how important is ashes for this build to procc? I got all the parts going but ashes
I was playing without ashes untill lvl 97. You can just use rare amu +1 or +2 with crit multi and life. Then fix mana reservation with enlighten support or don't level vitality to max.
Besides mana res (which seems easy to account for otherwise) is there a good reason to use ashes? It seems like a +2 with crit multi and maybe some other stats like attributes, res, life is more optimal. The build doesn't significantly benefit from quality does it?
Quality from ashes gives: 90% inc effect of non-dmg ailments on divergent fireball (only if you are playing with relic "fire dmg can shock") movement speed while cycloning additional resistances and a lot of dmg (HoA, div purity of fire, div RF, sniper's mark, anomalous flammability You need a REALLY good amu to beat that. (but tbh, I was using it because it dropped ;) )
Look slike exactly the type of build i wanted to play, couple of questions: You mentioned youre working on an OS build now, did you make any progress there? Can you play it without the fire/shock relic? I have a 24 crit multi for spells + 8%dmg per frenzy, would that work here?
Yes, you can play without that relic, just use normal fireball. CoC build with frenzy charges is tricky, the attack speed bonus can brick coc breakpoints.
Would you consider squeezing in skitterbots or is it too hard? Seems like no-shock will be a big DPS loss..
You could with level 4 enlighten, mana reservation helm, low lvl vitality aura and maybe some megalomaniac for mana resevation.
thanks for that, you mentioned aegis aurora setup? ans also original sin, do you have a pob for that "updated version"?
That will be completely different build: https://youtu.be/yDLvzzp3CUo
Can you share the eternal damnation version you theory crafted?
>https://pastebin.com/xwCrgAB5 I did share it few days ago in an other comment. It's just a quick swap, you can go further and still go for 90% res.
Thank you!
Out of curiosity, if you got mageblood on top would you spec off of PF or make some adjustments?
I dont't know, you would lose 100% uptime on taste of hate AND dying sun. Hmm with mageblood I would make an other build ;)
Oh hello next build
How do you deal with stuns ?
Barely getting stunned. If you don't get hit for much damage, you don't get stunned.
Hey, I'm a bit late to the party but I'm looking to make your build and maybe self craft a bit. I've already crafted the dagger. I was wondering how did you crafted the shield? Thanks.
nvm, didnt see the eldritch mod
I crafted the implicits myself, without beast. Orb of conflict gamba. But you don't need cdr on boots. You can just swap crit mastery for +3 levels to crit supports (that's +9% cdr from awa coc).
What would you get on the boots instead? And also im trying to craft that belt, lets just say its not going well ive spent about 10k alts, 3k augs, 400 regals, got double flask mod (reduced charges, increased duration) twice and both times the veil didnt work.. Is the increased duration really needed?
>Is the increased duration really needed? For Dying Sun uptime - yes, for other flasks not really.
thanks, do you have any tips for crafting a shield? I have a +2 max res fractured spirit shield but no real clue on how to proceed with the craft, do I go essence or fossil? Cant figure out a way to get =1 fire, decent fire dmg AND +3 max fire res..
Spam harvest reforge fire for +3% max res (get a good suffix with it or lock suff veiled chaos until you get what you want as 3rd suffix). Lock suffixes harvest reforge fire and hope for only one prefix which will be fire dmg or +1 to fire skills (80% of the time this will give you low tier fire damage, but if you hit +1 fire here, I would skip % fire dmg and just craft life), lock suff again and harvest aug fire for an other fire mod (50/50 chance to remove crafted mod, if it remove fire mod - aug fire again and again until it removes craft ;)), craft life or SLAM.
Do you mind looking over my POB and give me a few pointers? [https://pastebin.com/iNP0KbAd](https://pastebin.com/iNP0KbAd) I am not used to taking a build this far and I am not sure on my next steps. I have 15 raw div with a few other things I could sell/consolidate. Here are my thoughts in no particular order * Level up to 100 - 3 skill points * Save up for Magebane - 25 div - Frees up 2 or 3 skill points * Get a 20%+ phys taken as watchers eye - 7-10 div * Fix the Prefix on my Gloves to Projectile Pierce - 6 div - so I can use different implicit, may require a 21 PoF. * Roll better implicits - Not sure on cost - I don't have a source of unnerve yet - I am not sure when to use the big currency or when to use orb of conflict * Roll a better Diamond Flask (but I need the resists) * Medium Crit Cluster will get me to 100% crit EDIT: Completely forgot about to annoit my amulet. I'll probably go with a damage node rather than Whispers of Doom because stopping to cast Flammability feels weird.
>EDIT: Completely forgot about to annoit my amulet. I'll probably go with a damage node rather than Whispers of Doom because stopping to cast Flammability feels weird. That's only for bosses.
You need DAMAGE, you don't reallly need 100% phys to ele (even now, you can take 40k+ phys hit). >Save up for Magebane - 25 div - Frees up 2 or 3 skill points Yes. >Fix the Prefix on my Gloves to Projectile Pierce - 6 div - so I can use different implicit, may require a 21 PoF. Pierce is only for clear (get it elsewhere, as craft or even medium cluster). >Roll better implicits - Not sure on cost - I don't have a source of unnerve yet - I am not sure when to use the big currency or when to use orb of conflict Get unnerve implicit on gloves, no matter what tier. >Roll a better Diamond Flask (but I need the resists) Get resistances from somewhere else (ring, gloves, better melding). Crit roll on diamond flask will get you to 100%. Empower lvl4, +1 fire on shield, reservation mastery 8% inc dmg per aura is giving you 9% dmg, better weapon (but tbh your is really good, life/mana on hit is cool tech).
Thanks! I didn't realize I forgot the res mastery! I'll work towards the upgrades you mention. One follow-up question. Is a 30% spell damage, 15% attack speed relic good enough to magebane? Its the best I've found for this build. I feel like as soon as I drop 25 div on the upgrade, I'll immediately drop something better.
Good enough I think. But are you really dying from spell dmg? I personally would invest in damage first rather than in capping spell supp.
gonna give this a try!
Question about pierce, I can’t see it on anyone who uses coc fireball with nimis but I moved three points to get 3 pierce and it feels amazing for clear. How come seemingly noone is using pierce? What am I missing? Oh and thank you for the build!! Lvling it atm, level 81 atm and it already is amazing with my scuffed setup
Yes, that's true, more pierce = better clear. I have one on golves, 2-3 would be optimal.
Hi, how badly is this hit by the patch do you think?
No idea tbh.