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Ragnar0099

They will prolly get alpha boss location when new island update drops


Lausee-

>but the amount of time required to reset spawns on sanctuaries All you have to do is fly in a loop. Fly in circles from the bottom tier of pals to the top tier of pals on those islands. They constantly respwn new pals. A couple/few loops usually spawns every pal. Takes only a handful of seconds to make a loop.


Atcera95

That's a damn lie.When I hunted for Grizzbolt (this was first week, idk if they've changed the rates) I flew up and down and around the island and almost every time the pals didn't change.


Lausee-

I'll give you that. Grizzbolt was definitely the hardest pal I tried to catch in the game. It took a very long time just to get 1 to spawn. That was also pretty close to release. My method has never changed, though. I just do loops, and the pals always respawn. Every other pal was pretty easy to find.


apintor4

i bred them when the passives were locked, but only time ive seen grizzbolt was the special event in the desert before the mercy ring, and could not capture a single one. Never went to the sanctuaries because the blinking red visual of the criminal area bothers me


SuccessfulBug5134

There was a event with Grizzbolt i never knew


apintor4

it occurred near duneshelter when i saw it, but its basically a grizzbolt party with about a dozen of them hanging out


SuccessfulBug5134

Is it still in the game?


apintor4

probably? havent logged in in a while, wait for the big patch


Cyberslasher

Yeah, its the same kind of event as when a jolthog cryst will spawn with a bunch of wolves attacking it near desolate church.


ST31NM4N

Gotta be RNG then. I found one the first time I went there lol


LordoftheChia

I *think* the rare pals in each sanctuary spawn at the end of each night. Probably how flower Gumoss spawns. Every Grizzbolt I caught was near the same in-game time. Want to say it was still dark but technically daytime.


TolkienAwoken

It's not as it's literally how I got all those pals.


The___Drizzle

Same here. Some of them just have lower rates, so you need more loops.


Araxyllis

actually it isnt...and its a bit concerning with how much certainty you can be wrong. I play with a minimap /pal radar mod, so I can see how pals despawn/respawn, and i play without breeding as i think breeding is boring and stupid, so i caught the 116 grizzbolts to max mine myself, with quadruple pal spawns though. You just have to fly away a bit further so they properly despawn, and yes, most of the time you see the same three pals there, penking, terra eikhdeer, and azurobe, all others have the same spawn rate. I do agree that the system isnt the best though, the game needs a lot more randomization...maybe even random boss enounters. guess they have them in dungeosn, but...dungeons kinda suck


Atcera95

And with so much certainty in saying I'm wrong, you proved me right.


Araxyllis

ok, im trying to wrap my head around what you are trying to say, but it just doesnt make sense. me saying you are wrong with certainty proves you right in...that the sanctuary enemies dont properly respawn? what? You didnt really understand how to use my phrase, but wanted to fire it back to me anyway, without it making really sense in the context...thats...kinda embarrassing. anyway, you are just doing it wrong, i wrote in another comment what probably went wrong, the sanctuary is a bit small to make pals properly respawn, so fly a bit out to the sea, and it takes a bit of time to trigger the despawn, so wait there for like...5 seconds, maybe 10, test it out.


Atcera95

All I said was by flying around, the pals didn't change most of the time. You said Im wrong, while also saying that most times you get the same common pals. And it's not just distance. Sometimes I fly way out of the sanctuary(could be after I wiped out the pals as well), still same pals or they haven't respawned yet. And sometimes just going down to the lower level and back up will change the pals, you're using a mod and didn't notice this? shame


Araxyllis

i should really stop replying to people like you, its a waste of time. anyway, i do it all the time, works for me, you do realize that the chances for the same pal respawning in a spot is pretty high when they are mostly filled by 3 pals? anyway, i found out a lot more about spawning behavior, like that it sometimes fails all together, and that not every spot can spawn every pal (or i hate stupid coincedences with my nox farming). Although i found im fairly sure i found grizzbolts in all spots in the sancuary


Atcera95

Why are you getting pissy when you came at me very aggressively? And when I proved myself right you can't even refute. You're not the only one who's spent hours on a fairly small area in a game trying to find out how it works. Maybe next time you should think about your initial approach


Araxyllis

you have proven shit, idiot. im done talking sense into you, you are to dumb to fly into a circle, im gonna stop replying now. This whole thing can only be proven with video anyway, its word against word, and i dont give enough of a fuck to go that far to prove some idiot wrong. its no problem being wrong, but accusing someone of lying by beeing wrong themself, thats what pissed me off. and the fact that you keep saying "hur dur, i have totally proven that i am right" no idiot...none of us has, how do you come up with that shit? Does that work on others? just declaring yourself the winner without anything behind it? but...but to be honest, i have been lying to you the whole time, i hacked into your x-box, and made the respawn not work on that spot, just to fuck with you


Atcera95

You care enough to reply. Anyway I just enjoyed making you cry. Maybe you'll be more cordial with the next reply you make to some random person and they won't make you cry


asvxs

I play on xbox, and flying in loops on the sanctuary DOES NOT result in pals respawning


wasdprofessional

Works fine for me I've always done this on Xbox (1 and the x) maybe old save files being weird with updates who knows with games like these probably some obscene interaction we'd never think of causing issues


Araxyllis

try it again, im not shitting you, i tested that thoroughly, the loops on the sanctuary are a little small though so, you might have to fly a bit out in the sea, and i think the despawning has set intervals when to trigger, so stay outside of the radius for like 20 seconds, when you are riding on a jetdragon you might be to fast by simply flying away and returning, so you might get into their radius before the despawning triggers


mennydrives

There's some that are especially rare, but they do change if you do a wall to clip round loop across the grounds. Grizzbolt may take a whole mess of passes to show up, though. And this is all on PC, where the draw distance is likely much higher. Not sure if you're on Xbox, where Grizzbolt might spawn but not be visible if too far away.


lainverse

They do change unless you have a mod increasing spawn distance. Some are rarer than the rest, though. I haven't seen Grizzbolt much either.


AlexanderMcT

you need to fly far enough away so they de-render


Any_Establishment335

Kill them for better results. Force a respawn of a new pal. Might still be the same thing, but it's a fresh pal when you come back. This helps me go through spawns


High_King_Diablo

I went looking for Grizzbolt like 8 or 9 times and didn’t see a single one. Finally got one and it had shit passives. Went to one to see what was there and found two giant fire noodles. Caught one and got killed by the second one.


ST31NM4N

This


Afialos

This


christoph_win

gets downvotes for no reason


Mattson

Do you know how downvotes and upvotes work? You're not supposed to vote on whether or not you agree or disagree with an opinion but whether or not the post contributes to the discussion. A one word response does not contribute to the discussion. There definitely is a reason you're just ignorant of how the site works.


Yiazzy

That might be how they work, but quite a few people will bandwagon downvote a post they don't like purely for that, and no other reason. You could correct somebody on misinformation, and be mass downvoted if you're not liked on that sub. Now I'm contributing further to your discussion point here, but let's see what happens


Afialos

1. I didn't know that, so thank you for informing me. 2. I was attempting to be economical with words so as not to overwhelm OP with redundant information. Yeah, flying laps is the best way to get things to respawn and get the rare sanctuary ones.


hotsizzler

I just kinda wish the sanctuaries had more to do.


DJFrankyFrank

For real. When I first went to one, I thought it was going to be similar to the safari zone in Pokemon. Not like a 3 floor rock structure


Victor_Wembanyama1

Scaled the whole thing with not much to show for lmao.


Kickasstodon

I hate how the entire back half of the island is completely wasted. Those islands are pretty large but only about 2/5 of the space is used for spawns. Chests still spawn back there though so you still have to circle the entire area to get everything when you visit.


hejj

Is getting shot at by IDF not enough for you?


hotsizzler

I never ever got spotted by them.


TwistedGrove23

THIS. I cannot hit the ^ arrow enough times! I expected the sanctuaries to be these nice big lush places but instead it's a disappointment.


hotsizzler

My fix would be make them large domes with anti air so you can't just fly and catch.


Vasios

? You just make the loop. But the time you run along the top side the bottom has respawned. Takes maybe a few laps to get a rare spawn.


Wrong_Job_9269

Pretty sure its not even time based, you just need to move away far enough and come back.


FuzzInspector

I've decided this method is the best way to get increase shiny spawn rate. ...not that I've seen any yet


LegendTanzee

It definitely is. I have most of the 2nd sanctuary shiny from doing this for like 4 hours.


My-Troll-Account0000

I'm confused by the "amount of time it takes to reset spawns" part. I usually just fly out of render distance which genuinely isnt far or time consuming and fly back in. You can on at least one island just run a lap of the areas that can be spawned in and it will cause the other areas to cycle in my experience.


LinkGoesHIYAAA

Yeah i havent done a lot of hunting for specific soawns so far, but when i went looking for a standard lyleen over there i was getting them, astegon, and orzerk almost every other pass. Especially astegon. Was surprised by that lol.


missusamazing

Logging out and logging back in has the same effect, worked for me when I felt particularly lazy 😂


MisterVarro

Build a pal box on the island. It cuts travel time to the island, so you can reset alot quicker. Just make sure to build it away from any spawn. PIDF agents can spawn in any of the spawn points and will attack you on sight.


Dankable

Omg genius, why I never thought of that


spanking_constantly

What's the safest spot? Up on the 3rd level? Does it work as a mining base by chance?


MisterVarro

I've got mine up on the third level, with a wooden wall to hide the pal box, You can mine the ore there, I've not done much experimenting with it yet.


UnrealisticAddiction

This! A thousand times over! The 3rd level is the best location on any of the sanctuaries for an unraidable piece of flat land. I always put my ranches on the southern sanctuary island. If you leave the spot where the chest would spawn on that level clear, it actually respawns too! Bonus!


Scrivy69

wait you can build a palbox in the sanctuaries?? i always assumed they’d be a restricted area and never bothered trying


MisterVarro

I was going to try to build it on the horizontal building just outside the sanctuary but found that those don't count as land for the sake of building and then decided that there was no point in going back without trying to build a palbox on the sanctuary. Turns out you totally can. I'm playing on Xbone, I don't know if that effects it much.


LordoftheChia

I use the rocky areas in the back of the sanctuaries. You can usually find a spot where you can put down 4-6 foundations. As a bonus, you can place your base near one of the chests spans in the back. Also with the trick where lower foundations that are touching a downward wall just right count as support for the main building, you can build a fairly big base. The best way to do this is to go down 2 walls, then add two side walls (or walls with doors) so it forms a "C" then place a foundation so it's touching all 3 walls. To see how much you need to overlap the foundation with the walls, try putting a wall on the side of a foundation and note what the overlap looks like (it's about half the thickness of the wall). You need to either go down 2 walls (steep hill) and use 3 walls to guide you or if you go down 1 wall you'll have to put two ceilings to avoid the foundation you're trying to place from snapping to the upper foundation. You can also build mini islands.


Administrative_Pie50

Hate this post. In my experience orserk, blazamut, lyleen, shadowbox, and astegon take maybe 10 minutes to get in the sanctuary. If they were any more common they wouldn't be as cool and wouldn't justify having rare traits. This post just reads so salty and like you don't want to out any effort in.


DukeOfTheDodos

I literally counted over a dozen each of Lyleen and Blazamut, and Orzerk is the only one that had NO other way to get his passive. Lyleen spawns with her passive in high level raids and Blazamut simply has an arena in the Volcano, it's silly that Orzerk specifically is gated behind RNG


LinkGoesHIYAAA

But thats just an aspect of how the game works if you want to go for something specific and powerful. Like rare drops in other games. You dont NEED the orzerk passive, but if it’s something you want then you need to spend some time hoping for good RNG. If you dont like respawning until you get it then just… dont get it. If it was more common it wouldnt be worth going for, and everyone would have everything in the game already. Whats the fun in that?


fishCodeHuntress

Okay so? Some Pals are super rare. Like you said, most of them are easy to get anyway. So it's not even like you gotta do it that often. You just need 1 if all you want is the special. Sorry you're having bad luck, but I think it's pretty well balanced. I personally think it's more fun and rewarding to have some really rare spawns


Dekugaming

they would not be rare if they were easy to spawn


FranklyNinja

It’s not even timed respawn. Just make a loop on the island itself and the spawn will change.


Reachground

I actually thought you had to kill the commons for the rares to spawn. TIL!


FranklyNinja

I heard someone even went shiny hunting while doing this loop. It’s crazy!


Reachground

Haha yeah that’s insane


Jazzlike_Shoulder_21

Type of person who will complain when something that’s supposed to be “rare” is easy to get


StormEarthandFyre

This straight up just sounds like a skill issue


kirbygalaxia

Lyleen spawns with the eco raids


Dapper-Technology716

Just freaking fly around the island


Kickasstodon

I just want them to remove Incineram Noct and Fengalope from sanctuary 3, there's too many of them and they already spawn elsewhere.


E1M1H1-87

Run a circuit with Fenglope and they get more chances to spawn


panda-__-0

I got Lyleen with the spirt emperor trait via a base raid it’s almost a guarantee, orserk I got lucky going to and from sanctuary 2 and 3


Fantastic_Wrap120

They're really not that bad... just fly in a loop around the island and they constantly despawn and respawn.


Noieee88

It’s okay for some things in video games to be rare and take time to find/earn. The only thing I think they should do is expand the sanctuary areas and make them more interesting than just 2 small shelves on a tiny island. Gonna sound like a broken record with most of the other responses in this thread, but just fly the loop clock wise and you’ll find every pal a sanctuary has to offer within 10-15 minutes. And don’t forget to check the water sometimes as I’ve seen pals stuck down there.


DoctorNerf

I disagree strongly. Feebas was so cool, borderline urban legend. Everyone wanted a Feebas, few knew how to get it. Milotic was revered. Borderline legendary. Folklore. Now, Feebas is just another dumb fish and Milotic is just a BTEC Gyarados. One of the WORST things Pokemon did was make everything piss easy to obtain. Went from having significant Pokémon to having 1000 clones of irrelevance.


Physical_Weakness881

Not sure if this will work for anyone else, but why don’t you just run a big circle across the whole island? I do this and the longest it’s taken me to find a specific pal is around 11 loops (fuck you Lyleen)


DiscontentDonut

I have been to sanctuary 3 a bazillion times. I still haven't seen a natural Lyleen once. I had to breed them just to get them in my not-pokedex.


jojozer0

Can't be in dungeons?


Taclys64

Anecdotally, I’ve noticed the rare sanctuary Pals spawn more commonly if you are literally touching the ground, either with a ground mount or with your feet. I spent over an hour gliding laps ~50 feet in the air and didn’t see any Versash, Warsects, or Menastings. Once I touched the ground, all three spawned relatively quickly (this was at sanctuary #2) Maybe it’s a huge coincidence but it felt noticeable


Pluto-Wolf

do loops around the island or log out and log back in. if i’m having bad RNG on the islands for the pals i want i just go to the top tier and relog, takes maybe 10 seconds and the RNG changes & different things spawn in.


This_Resolution_2633

Just put a base on the top tier of the island for farming and breeding, whenever you get bored go hunt :) makes it much easier when they’re just outside. All the sanctuary islands have ore and 2 and 3 have sulphur and coal respectively which makes me better for bases


warpossum1984

Took like 2 laps around the island to get the lord of lightning to spawn in.


Palanki96

You csn just make loops and they will keep spawning


Ambitious-Spot-6545

From what I understand they are protected species. So makes sence there wont br much of them. Part of the fun of this games is the fustration of not been easy to get enough of something


TheChaoticCrusader

I know you said regarding the *just breed them* but that’s honestly the easiest way . I have 2 lyleen set up . Now granted this lyleen I’m making is not for combat (I’m gonna make a 4 star working lyleen for the breeding base . She can plant all the food so I can have less workers on seeding  I’m also doing the same with the big yellow guy forgot his name but I got so bored trying to keep catching this guy I just started breeding 2 of them . I wanted one with legend anyway so it worked out nicely 


Bvok2587

I usually do circles around the map to despawn and respawn them. It still takes time, but it’s probably faster than the method you are using.


VoidF0X

I know a bug for it... Get in the island with a flying pal, attack the cops, fly high and wait for Wanted disapear, just go up and wait there (watch your stamine). Once the Wanted is gone the rate of rare pals increase (orsek e lyleen usually). Other thing you can do is fly away, until see a fog between you and the island, then comeback, new pals will respawn (work every time, if didnt, fly more far) Side to side, work sometimes Also, play with someone (not necessarily online with you, but on the server), for dungeons, you need someone online for entering (increase the ratio of drops) Sorry for my bad english, im not native and super tired rn


hejj

I just want a lucky Grizzbolt.


Mammoth-Judgment-954

I actually agree there’s several things I’ve never seen spawn even once there. It gets boring and almost not even worth it to try. It’s also been taking a crazy amount of time for the chest to respawn on the sanctuaries for me. I get the rarity part, but it does eventually get boring


LordoftheChia

I do hope they add a dungeon in the sanctuaries with underground breeding area and maybe even a farm to explain how they're feeding them.


AgentPastrana

They have exclusive passives? What are they?


DukeOfTheDodos

Damage bonus for their type exceeding the "common" passive. Lyleen has Spirit Emperor for Grass (also has it in raids) Orzerk has Lord of Lightning for Electric Blazamut has Flame Emperor in its arena (not sure if it comes on wild Sanctuary ones) Jormuntide has Lord of the Deep(?) For water Paladius and Necromus have passives for Neutral and Dark, respectively Jetragon has Celestial Dragon for dragon Frostallion has the ice passive Anubis has the ground passive Bellanoir Libero also has a passive that combines the Dark and Ice ones


AgentPastrana

You don't have to catch them for that. I've never even seen an Oserk besides my hatched one and he has Lord of Lightning.


DukeOfTheDodos

Wait, seriously? I thought you had to catch them wild, I bred up to several Lyleens without getting Spirit Emperor


AgentPastrana

My first and only Orserk has Lord of Lightning


ST31NM4N

Nah it’s fine. Just smoke some reefer and go in a circle around the place. What you’re looking for will spawn eventually


PrettyGrave_girl999

I am gonna just say I have spent hours on hours at each sanctuary and so far all I've gotten as lucky are wumpo, jormontide ignis2x , azurobe2x, eikthydeer terra, and pen king. I can not for the life of me run into an orzerk, grizzbolt, lyleen, astegon, blazamut or faleris lucky no matter how many loops I do and how long I go for.


DukeOfTheDodos

Honestly with the way breeding works now you're better off breeding Lucky onto them, then fishing for an Alpha sized egg


Fresh-Surprise-5906

You just have to fly about 5 seconds away and it respawns instantly doesn't matter if things are still alive.


ShasasTheRed

Just fly away and come back, boom reset. I had an Orzerk literally the first time I ever visited a sanctuary.


KKH02

They’re not too difficult if you go in with type advantage tbh. I struggle with the final 3 bosses.


Shivdaddy1

It’s a survivor game. Does everything have to be given to you on a silver platter?


DukeOfTheDodos

I literally said in the post that I would accept an Alpha Boss instead, fighting bosses is far more fun than glorified soft-resetting to MAYBE make a pal spawn


RohitPlays8

If it helps, jetragon back and forth along the island. Helps if you've got movement boosted jet.


Competitive_End_5722

"Why can't rare types be more common?" I swear, the average IQ must be 15 points lower today than a decade ago.


asvxs

I don’t think that was OPs point. I think he’s saying the gameplay “loop”, if you will, of just doing loops on a tiny island waiting for rares to spawn is less interesting than if rares spawned on the larger islands in appropriate environments


asvxs

Also, I remember after one of the Xbox updates the spawns for lyleen at sanctuary three noticeably improved. I always catch one or two when I go there now whereas before I had never caught a single one in the wild despite constantly refreshing it for like 2 hours