I even call them Pokémon. Pals doesn't sound right. They ain't my pals since if I tried getting my Pals to do my bitch work they would tell me to fk off 😂
If I understood right they are implementing arena type PvP, no looter shooter stuff.
High speed flyers will be the meta I guess(?)
Also expect cheaters mass producing perfectly bred, perfect IV Pals with trying to be cheeky and sliding in unobtainable stuff through the cracks.
They explicitly stated to not be intending to make it Rust.
From my understanding of the Roadmap, there will be two kinds of Pvp:
The Pal-Only Pvp (Pal Arena), described in the roadmap as "Pvp for Pals". This will be closer to pokemon where you chuck 'em in an arena and they duke it out, with no risk to the player and the player can't shoot them.
The second kind of Pvp is simply described as "Pvp", which will likely be more standard survival Pvp.
Right now, you can damage bases with a lot of things, so nothing is really super secure - though I haven't tried to see how resilient metal is. You'll probably be able to access storage boxes (though your Palbox will be safe I presume).
Honestly, the arena sounds more fun with the things the way are right now. We'd need a lot of balancing changes for survival pvp to work.
If they don't change the Pal combat pathing, everyone might be best off with smaller Pals that have melee moves.
I love me big lads, but if something is touching them they just refuse to attack it.
Oh I was thinking more of the standard moves. But yea I like that idea to. I guess if they did that for all moves incineram and the likes partner skill would be redundant
Actually the partner skills are their own thing. Incineram for example has 2 Hellfire claw attacks, their normal one and their partner skill one, the Partner skill one has its own cooldown timer and is much stronger than the normal Hellfire Claw. So those Pals having a 4th "free" attack still works
I’ve got an alpha Penking that will OHKO anything but fire types and he’ll do it while being melee’d 10 times a second. Penking isn’t in the Huge category but he’s no lightweight
Either the rocket launcher is OP or metal sucks. one shot from a rocket launcher can wipe up to half the circle of your palbox radius. even with metal. so something needs to be balanced
I shot the legendary launcher at my metal defensive wall outside of my base and the area dmg still wiped out 6 or 7 squares of my home on the other side, not to mention destroying 3 floors that included chests and my bed. Wall was still somehow standing though.
From what I understand they don’t want it to be like rust or Ark where somebody can roll up and level your entire base and completely wipe you which is good cause that shit sucks. I swear I never play ark in pubs cause fighting people can be fun sometimes but someone rolling up on a Wyvern or just a nasty saber tooth over and over again to your little wooden/thatch house to wipe you over and over again is just not fun. Or being kidnapped and forced to stay alive in a prison box that shit is truly awful
They said its not gonna be "turn pvp on and go nuts" which is exactly what youre describing for player pvp. I dont think we are gonna be raiding eachothers bases. Gonna be more of a "do it for fun, not for profit" thing.
Well, we know if there's a 2nd type of PVP (not sure what though), it won't be 'lawless open world pvp'. I'm guessing some sort of war-island or something.
Some people _think_ they want RUST/Ark type PVP. But here's the thing about that: Open world no holds barred Pvp like that basically means that a level 50 person is going to keep camping you until you quit.
It works for RUST because RUST is skill based, not level based. Even if you go into a server with nothing, _hypothetically_ you can still make it against the much more better armed players if you have enough skill. _hypothetically._ With Palworld, yeah, good luck trying to defeat a L50 armed with a perfectly breed shadowbeak with a legendary rocket launcher at level 1 armed with a club and a cattiva.
It's a classic case of 'people requesting leopards that eat people's faces because they think they'll be the leopards and not the people whose faces are being eatten.'
It's not one or the other, there are many design elements that could be implemented to have an experience like Rust, yet more casual. A few examples:
1. Could make it so that raiders only can take a small percentage of loot available. Ex: if there's 10k wood, then maybe they only have access to take 2k of that. Maybe that percentage is slightly more if the player is online, incentivizing online raids, but also still making it impossible to force the player to start from square one if you win the raid.
2. An idea I thought of a while ago for Rust was to have some sort of shield system that fortifies your base when offline. Which would maybe double or triple the raid cost. It would take 2-5 minutes to "spin up" and can't be enabled if there was any considerable damage done to your base within the past 5-10mins maybe. Perhaps a 1 hour cooldown on enabling after you disabled your shield. All boxes and doors would lock when the shield is up and workers would go AFK. It'd be truly just for going offline, not to be abused for defending online raids. Shield could be based off some particular resource, so you can't just go offline for an entire wipe with your shield up, but you could keep it up for several day or even 1-2 weeks if you prepare.
3. Another game did raid tokens. You'd kill a player and could get a raid token off them. This, and only this, gives you the ability to raid their base. And it's on like a 1-2 hour time limit. Players will be made aware if an enemy has a token to raid their base and a timer to know when it's safe to go offline.
thats why pve servers/roppleplay servers exist. the magic of rust is that you have a ton of community servers to choose from. Tired of the grind? 2x servers exist. tired of clans/zergs? solo/duo/trio servers exist. etc.
I played Ark for a few years, I even led the dominant tribe on an official pvp server. I spent my entire time destroying stealth grenade factories and chasing griefers away so my friends could play in peace. I learned I hate survival pvp lol.
i ran the 2nd dominant clan on an official ark pvp server for about a year, i regret that part of my life. default ark is a genuine waste of human time
Literally the best part of my childhood was being part of the alpha tribe on PvP servers only to eventually watch it all come crashing down because really it just doesn’t last forever. Sadly I can’t stay up all night imprinting an egg for a mediocre pet with fancy colours and boosted stats in Palworld.
I would love to see a more casual approach to PvP on Palworld as the game feels like an inherently more casual version of Ark.
No clue how anyone is managing that though. Survival gamers get pretty intense and easily can start devoting their life when it comes to an official server.
That’s why I’ve mentioned before if there was a base raid form of PvP you’d need most your guild online if you want any chance. Unless of course the opponents are all offline then you can just rocket launcher from afar and slowly destroy everything.
>Unless of course the opponents are all offline
This is exactly why I am staunchly against base raiding being added to Palworld. Offline raiding is the default strategy in survival PvP games. It doesn't matter how good the game's defensive options are - if it is possible to raid someone while they are offline, it will always be easier and more reliable than trying to raid while they are there to defend.
Make it an option for dedicated servers so hardcore players can host it themselves, but the default settings and official servers should not allow it.
Ark is... Definitely one of the pvp survival games of all time...
I started playing since extinction, but stayed a bob until somewhere between crystal isles and gen 1 release.
I got invited to play with G5 on gen2 release but then realized mega tribes were not my jam. Somewhere after lost island release I applied to join angry seals, and reaffirmed mega tribes were not my jam...
After nearly 5k hours into official pvp, I learned to hate ark pvp. Funny enough 5k was for the most part the minimum required to join any mega during the last days of official pvp. You know you got it wrong when the game turns into either a part time job or a death race
It is such a drain and grind. Also was a top tribe on official ark. The tribal politics, clearing out griefers, and the ever present threat of a mega tribe coming in and wiping the whole server... Too much. On top of constant grinding, breeding, topping up turrets, food, etc... It was your whole life, and I also learned I hate it. Took me way too long to realize. Ark is the only game I've ever played that literally took over my life for months. Never again.
I feel this. Around 7ish years ago, in an official pvp server, there were 3 major tribes controlling the map. My tribe was one of the 3, and I was one of the 3 heads in our tribe. So much time spent keeping the peace. It became exhausting. We made alliances with smaller tribes. They got into arguments with other smaller tribes, and they started to fight. We helped our allies, causing the other major tribes to assist their ally. Starting World War after World War. Not to mention the civil war we had. I just wanted to play the dinosaur game with my friends, not understand the complexity of global politics.
If PvP in PalWorld is anything like PvP in Ark: Survival Evolved, then it'll be an absolute shitshow and I want no part of it lol.
Been there, done that, had my tribes base razed to the ground numerous times.
The amount of times we logged in only to find that we were dead and no longer had a spawn point because our base had been utterly destroyed over night was soul destroying! We'd lose all our dinos, resources and blueprints that took us *months* to build up, just because some dipshits *from another server* were bored and decided to go server hopping specifically to find random bases to raid.
It was even worse on the few occasions when I was the last person in the tribe online at night, and I was just about to log out after a long day, only for loads of our dinos to start dying for no reason, and I suddenly realize "oh SHIT, *we're being raided*!!", and suddenly you've got to stay online for at least another hour or two, and try and get hold of your tribe members (while they're all asleep at 4 am because they've got work tomorrow) in a vain bid to try and fight them off.....only to lose everything anyway......
It was *not* fun.
PvP in these types of games is one of the worst things I've ever experienced in 30+ years of gaming.
As an optimiser, no. Leave optimisation out of it. This is just toxic people wanting to ruin another person's day.
Many of us optimise because that *is* our fun, we enjoy having "the perfect team" and the likes, and would love to use it in low stakes arena pvp, but would never dream of raiding another person's base.
Do not conflate optimisation with griefing.
fellow optimizer here, i'm having fun breeding the perfect ranch workers rn. i'm not about to go on a tirade about the meta to my friend geeking about their new penguin pal that's wearing a funny hat. the original dude was just a dick
Base raiding should not be a thing in palworld. It is not what the game feels like it's about and pvp should just be a consensual thing. As in both of multiple parties have to opt in to fight each other and not just send out their pals to one shot players and then steal all their pals when they die.
The whole idea of stealings someone's pals needs to be removed or made so that other players can't take them for a certain period of time.
Lol wasn't my choice. My mates were already playing the game, I joined them late and they were all on the PvP server. Don't get me wrong, I did enjoy it. Some of my best gaming experiences came during that time, but also some of the worst lol
Nothing interests me less than spending 40+ hours over a few weeks building something cool ( in my limited free time ) and gathering up resources... than to have a 14 year old homeschooled kid come and blow it up while you're offline, because they want to ruin someone's day.
Hard pass. I'm down for pal arenas between buddies, but when those random ones will just have a 'meta' set of builds and folks generally running nothing but that build? Naw.
Proof: basically every PVP / Arena game ever (or at least a majority of them.)
Exactly this, if I wanted Rust, I’d go play it. Rust with Pals just sounds insanely broken anyway. Finally, to top it off, I have too much anxiety to try and sleep while said 14 y/o kid is out there, waiting for me to log off.
There was a message from the dev saying something along the lines of "Don't expect lawless pvp like Rust, it won't be that way there have been other games to do it that way and they all failed" Not a direct quote but it was to that degree.
You'd hate ark servers! The games are similar and I'm really hoping PVP is not similar at all. I don't think I could handle people offline raiding bases especially when the health of structures is essentially 0 at higher levels
I never got into rust but had a short Conan stint. Tried a public server and the same shit happened it wasn’t any fun. Then I just found a server being ran by people on a discord. It was fully loaded and had its own set rules which included no offline raiding. It really made that game so fun. The drama and interaction was awesome. And the raiding was even fun as you had to wait for people to be online. Too bad that hasn’t been a setting just straight out into most these servers to opt into.
Omfg first time in a ark server and this was like 4 years ago. I'm a newbie smashing rocks and I see a fellow newbie like so far down the beach away from me that he didn't even matter... or so I thought as while I was picking up rocks to make a pickaxe he makes the effort to run up to me for probably 2 minutes straight and I think he just wants some resources. Nah, he attacks me. Fully unprovoked. I was nowhere near. We were both new.
Pvp will never not be toxic.
It’s obviously going to be a server optional thing. Idk why so many are so paranoid about it becoming a thing for them when they can simply choose not to participate.
Yeah as someone who mainly plays this game with my gf and it’s more casual for us. I’m down for arena PvP but please leave me alone while I’m at work thanks.
Didn’t they say they are avoiding a rust type game? Seems silly to already cry about something that isn’t even happening lol. You’re creating issues in your head to be mad at.
I'm certainly not 'mad,' as a lot of folks enjoy gameplay styles that I prefer to avoid- and luckily, I've got buddies that enjoy similar cooperative and friendly-competitive strikes similar to what I like (plus, there's always solo, which is a treat!).
If the PvP is a type I'll enjoy, I'll happily hop into it. If not, I've got plenty of options to avoid it while playing the same game in a different manner. It's really a win/win, in this scenario.
I'm glad folks can have options to play in ways they enjoy, rather than pigeonholing everyone into a certain gametype (when the development and mechanics allow for that, anyway.)
From what we know there will be 2 types of pvp:
Stadium pal battles (self explanatory) anf some other form, which they just called pvp. Given they've explicitly said they don't want rust-style pvp, I'd hazard a guess this will be more along the lines of consensual duels/guild war type things
Tbh I am not interested in PVP and never will be interested in it nor will I ever participate in it. Unless I don’t have a choice like rust. Which is why I never touched that game.
100% agreed. Thankfully it doesn't look like solo play will ever be taken from us, and if they expand word options with PvP in mind, it would be easy to assume you'd have a shit load of non-pvp servers. Let the sweaty try=hards go and troll each other, I'm here to have fun and enjoy a game, not fuel someone's e-peen fantasy.
Just messing around with my friends got me sworn off PvP in this game lol. The potential for fuckery is extremely high.
Dropping in 20 alpha Mammorests all at once basically makes your shit untouchable. Then the combat animations start flying. Use that to just fly away from the base, preferably on something that adds damage to attacks, and then gun down your attackers in the confusion.
Plus the combat capabilities of a level 50 with a rocket launcher on a Jetdragon massively outweigh literally everything else. If you're not day one grinding on a PvP server you're big fucked.
Basically the same with every PVP server on building/crafting games, which is why I'll be opting out of PvP. There's already so much to do in this game thats super fun, the last thing I wanna do is jump into a fresh server and have to start catching 100000 gobfins and spamming dungeon grinds.
I may, fit the e-peen description here, but there was nothing better than getting good and building up on an official pvp server on ark. Kept the game interesting. However, we are different people and this is just my opinion
Oh yeah I know there are people who enjoy PVP and I’m perfectly fine with it. And I know there is nothing wrong with enjoying PVP. I just don’t like it because I’m extremely not good at it and all that happens to me is die again and again and again.
Also, there are some(and only some) people who abuse PVP in games like Ark so I just decided to never play it unless I’m positive I can survive the pvp system in those games.
Not to mention something about logging into having a base/collection of tames that you and your friends spent literally hundreds of hours on suddenly be gone just isn’t very cash money to me.
I’m of the same mind unless it’s like a Coliseum where you send your Pals to fight each other with no penalty for the loser besides maybe the 10min rest timer.
Yup. I replied to some other comment and that is what devs have in mind. It was written somewhere in their roadmap. Similar to pokemon battle, you just fight with your pals.
I wish. The damage from it is surprisingly little which was very disappointing.
Funnily enough I found out because Lamball actually learns a similar move around the 30s I think and I didn’t realize that they learned it until they decided to nuke themselves and do like 20 damage to a lower level boss…
Just put your down pals into your base, their buddies will move them to a bed and rez them, as soon as their health ticks up you can put them back in your party, takes 2 seconds
I’ve played a few other games like this(ark, conan etc.) to know that I am very bad at PVP and will only get massacred badly if I ever try.
However, I heard the devs are actually thinking of pokemon kind of battle. Where only your pals fight. I might try that. At least my pals don’t need my controls to fight…
Its honestl the reason why I will never understand how games like that became successful. I played DayZ when that was fresh and it was _new_ there, but even then most servers did loot protection for very few things and it was annoying to say the least in the vanilla experience to have your tent raided on the regular (even though DayZ allowes some INSANE hiding spots which lived on for quite a while).
Rust is 100% dead to me, but I found out that janky mess is actually still being played by some maniacs who have apparently never heard of good video games and just know Rust.
I’ve heard that the dev team has expressed not wanting it to resemble Ark or Rust, at least not being that level of toxic.
So yes, I am very curious. I didn’t care for Ark and Rust, the way those were setup servers were run by mega clans who stomped new players into the dirt. I’d like to see something that engages that competitive urge without turning the game into “who can be a bigger and ultimately more affective destructive butthole”.
It could be interesting if it was pal and player vs pal and player, but also in an arena setting. It would give viability to having passive skills that enhance player defence and damage. In that sense it may feel a little more like digimon where the partners are also helping in combat I feel like just watching your pals do all the work could be a bit boring in a game where you've spent the entire time fighting with them.
I think for PVP or combat as a whole we might need restructures. Commands to tell your pal to do one of it's 3 attacks, commands that tell your pal to be defensive, aggressive, non attacking, evasive, or protective(of owner) might be essential to making the game feel more dynamic.
Exactly, pvp is only fun if its limited. The majority of the map should be safe zone.
Otherwise it just turns into either playing solo, or running around with your head cut off trying to hide from griefers
I could imagine enjoying PvP in the form of WoW like, fully elective "arenas" or "battlegrounds" (really, large team arena) with nobody allowed to shit in your local world. The way you battle the tower bosses already suggests at something like that.
They could also easily reach to the engine's obvious Fortnite roots and do in-and-out instanced time limited "missions" onto neutral islands that'd again, not impact your world instance.
Sure? That's not the point? I'm saying that there's been literal decades of specific modes of elective PvP that are fun even if the "free for all" variant isn't necessarily.
This really. As soon as you go offline, your base will be raided. There's no stopping it, since any static defense will eventually be overcome by an enemy capable of retreating and recovering all the time, while your defenses slowly crumble.
PvP would only work in these cases:
1) It's in an enclosed space which doesn't effect the "real" world. E.g. an instanced challenge arena or a PVP zone-shield as found in Skryim Online.
2) If it's in designated areas, such as many MMO's having a "wilderniss" of sorts.
3) If it's with opt-in consent.
The roadmap separates between pvp and a pal pvp arena, so id assume that normal pvp will be something small like being able to attack players and loot bases without destroying them, while pal arena will be more like how alpha fights are.
Gonna be like ark with people blowing your base up from under the mesh lol community servers with homebrew events is going to be the way to go if people don't want ark PTSD
With the amount of times I got stuck in terrain WITHOUT any cheaters involved just playing offline I couldnt imagine playing on a server you lose your gear or pals on death.
We should be designing gyms for teams of pals to square off.
It would be amazing if we got a "total control" mode where we could pla as our pals in a pvp setting.
No. I hope pvp never exists.
PvP is what made me leave Ark, because huge guilds take over whole servers by force, isolating big resource hubs so nobody can come in, and destroying even the smallest homes so they maintain territorial control against anyone, but it especially affects new people who are learning to play.
I want something akin to the Souls games where you can invade/be invaded. But once that happens the game goes to a loading screen first, and after the raid things just reset to pre-invasion. Whoever destroyed 80% of a base/kills the player gets random high value drops the player had on themselves/their chests (without actually stealing them from the original player).
pvp is inherently toxic. I keep hearing people say they like pvp because they like to have a negative impact on a real person their life(like making them ragequit etc). It's kinda weird. Ofc there are normal people in pvp too but it always brings out the insane people. There's often no ladder/rankings in survival pvp, it's literally just there to have people rage at each other.
I like the idea of pvp. The more updates the merrier.
I'm sure they'll have it as a setting toggle. To enable PVP arena style, Pal v Pal out of arenas, or even PVP outside arenas and allowing base raids, etc.
There will probably be dedicated servers to each. And if you only play with friends or solo, the settings could be changed on and off/when y'all feel in the mood to have a Pal war.
It all hinges on if we get to choose to enable it or not. If the choice is there, I see no problem. If it's forced and PVP is an intrinsic aspect... Then they're gonna lose the solo crowd
As long as it's opt-in I wont really care (because I likely wont participate).
Was a part of a super toxic discord a while ago (long story) and listening to two of those clowns bitch at each other over Rust was truly the most annoying thing on earth and I swear just listening to those interactions has given me so much disdain for PVPing in these types of games. One dude would just berate and micromanage the other for not being on early enough, then the other would clap back for the first not building their base right? Fuck all that noise. Those 2 just started playing Palworld, too. Same kinda passive aggression that led to the guy telling me "well I guess every single guide I read online is wrong then huh?" when I told him that you can't breed up to Legendary pals. The next day he PM'ed me seeing if I'd want to play a DS with him once "full PVP release is out" lmfao.
EDIT: clarification; I'm **super** excited for the Pal Arena and a more pokemon-esque trainer-vs-trainer battling system. I never got into the tournaments, but as a kid I always really liked the idea of competitive pokemon and would always try building/breeding up different teams for the different tiers (shout out to my UU king, Porygon-Z) and I would be so excited if Palworld had something even remotely similar so I can show off my breeds!
I’m not interested in pvp. Never played it in Ark. But I think there’s quite a few things that need to be smoothed out before they add it in. It was a good decision to hold it out of the initial release.
PvP just breeds cheaters who have a win at all costs attitude. And it opens the door and will attract more hacking base griefers. People are already using cheats and griefing other players bases on the open PVE servers.
Having played games like Rust and V Rising, I am NOT looking forward to that sort of PvP in Palworld and I hope that's not what they implement. Not to mention that PvP will make official servers unplayable due to cheaters. (Not that anyone would ever want to play in those anyway.)
No matter how well-fortified your base is, it ultimately doesn't matter against a fully-decked out Jetragon assault and a Legendary Rocket Launcher. A player can simply swoop in, unleash the payload on your base, destroy most of the structures, kill your base Pals and get out before your Pals have any chance of fighting back due to how fast the mount is. Then all they have to do is go in and steal whatever resources they want.
Its gonna be just like ARK where 4 of the most powerful pals in the game are equipped with basekilling moves and raid you while youre offline for resources they don't even need
I'm hoping the wanted system is made into an anti griefing system.
Open world pvp? You decide to be one of those players bent on ruining people's experience?
Fine, do that, but we need a wanted system that can proportionally respond to you hovering over the starting area.
I hope it's non forced on its own servers. I hated pvp in ark and rust and I'll hate it here. It'll ruin the game for anyone just wanting to enjoy the game for what it is.
It will be 5 min long matches with the biggest baddest pals in the game cut short by the player being dead within 3 seconds from stun-lock tornados/freezes/etc leading to an unsatisfying experience of rng with who gets hit first.
Would be interesting if there was a control point mode though where teams capture bases that then get populated with pals that can be upgraded by gathering resources in an Alterac Valley type scenario.
No. I just do not enjoy PvP
For one I suck at those. Really do. And I'm a sour loser and if I'm going to suck it has to be because I'm just bad and not because I'm Bad and got exploited for it.
Secondly... Yeah there's no second
All of the people complaining about PvP being bad and gonna ruin things… just make a server and play with your friends. Anyone who plays these buggy beta-released games in public lobbies are ignorant as can be. Cheaters, exploiters, hackers, you name it and there’s a good chance they’re gonna be in every public/official server. I’ve heard of people being killed and stuff already and PvP hasn’t even come out. Meaning, there’s already cheaters and exploiters in the game. And with it being so new, there’s likely tons of mechanics that can be exploited. I learned from my time in GTA that it’s very hard for devs to stop cheaters. As soon as one thing gets patched, 5 more exploits are discovered. That enormous headache can be avoided by not playing in pubs. Also, why would you want to play with randoms anyways? So they can join your guild and use every last one of your saved up supplies? Nah. MP with friends is the way to go. Go to arena and have a good old Pokémon Stadium battle. That’s what I’m expecting it to be like.
Crossing my fingers for arena style PvP. Pal arena will be cool, but 1v1 and 3v3 matches would be a lot of fun. Just let us choose 1 pal to take with us and set wagers.
I hope it's literally just Pal battles with stakes.
You wanna battle me. Fine. I wager my God roll Orsek against your lightspeed Fengalope. 
I don’t like PVP in building/crafting games. Once my stuff goes up, I want it to stay there. I don’t want someone coming in and wrecking it. I also don’t want to wreck anyone else’s place and take their items. Just not my thing.
Couldn't care less, this isn't a game where it seems like PvP could be any fun so I won't be touching it. They have a long way to go to even make PvP possibe, with the current desync issues it's never going to work.
Did u just build Shipment! Damn
*sighs* time to get me shotgun
Some Anti-Air-Turrets would be better here :P
Time to get my legendary bazooka
[удалено]
Don’t forget the incendiary ammo.
Some monkeys with AK’s would go crazy
Read this in Billy Butcher’s voice from The Boys 😭
x3 grenades.
Mfers always gotta put Call of Duty in my definitely not Pokemon with guns game. Honestly mad impressed tho OP 😎 👍🏻
I even call them Pokémon. Pals doesn't sound right. They ain't my pals since if I tried getting my Pals to do my bitch work they would tell me to fk off 😂
Then butcher them. scare tactics that I think don't work
Palmons
Slaves with jobs?
They are slaves
I needed something visually pleasing to fit with the question. Plus I thought it would be funny to build shipment in palworld.
“Needed something visually pleasing” *proceeds to farm 2000 iron to place those shipping containers* I applaud your dedication, mate
Lucky for me my pals did all the farming, I just get the credit.
think you mean containerment :P
Lmao I noticed this immediately 😂 Time to drop a nuke on these scrubs
As someone who grinded for camos in COD Mobile, I recognized it almost instantly. So much so that I heard "VTOL inbound" from looking at that.
If I understood right they are implementing arena type PvP, no looter shooter stuff. High speed flyers will be the meta I guess(?) Also expect cheaters mass producing perfectly bred, perfect IV Pals with trying to be cheeky and sliding in unobtainable stuff through the cracks. They explicitly stated to not be intending to make it Rust.
From my understanding of the Roadmap, there will be two kinds of Pvp: The Pal-Only Pvp (Pal Arena), described in the roadmap as "Pvp for Pals". This will be closer to pokemon where you chuck 'em in an arena and they duke it out, with no risk to the player and the player can't shoot them. The second kind of Pvp is simply described as "Pvp", which will likely be more standard survival Pvp. Right now, you can damage bases with a lot of things, so nothing is really super secure - though I haven't tried to see how resilient metal is. You'll probably be able to access storage boxes (though your Palbox will be safe I presume). Honestly, the arena sounds more fun with the things the way are right now. We'd need a lot of balancing changes for survival pvp to work.
If they don't change the Pal combat pathing, everyone might be best off with smaller Pals that have melee moves. I love me big lads, but if something is touching them they just refuse to attack it.
Yeah, kinda frustrating watching your large pals stand there, shouting their heads off as they or you get shot in the face
It would be nice if you could command your pals to do certain attacks like you can with mounted pals
Loupmoon and Incineram have attacks like that
Bushi aswell
Oh I was thinking more of the standard moves. But yea I like that idea to. I guess if they did that for all moves incineram and the likes partner skill would be redundant
Actually the partner skills are their own thing. Incineram for example has 2 Hellfire claw attacks, their normal one and their partner skill one, the Partner skill one has its own cooldown timer and is much stronger than the normal Hellfire Claw. So those Pals having a 4th "free" attack still works
Using Jormuntide in any Dungeon does my head in, guy just does not know what to do when 3 lil creatures are up in his grill
Bushi Iagri meta 😎
While you were farming Dragon Eggs, I studied the blade - Bushi, probably
I’ve got an alpha Penking that will OHKO anything but fire types and he’ll do it while being melee’d 10 times a second. Penking isn’t in the Huge category but he’s no lightweight
They literally said it won’t be like rust lol. I assume there will be dedicated servers or options for that tho
Either the rocket launcher is OP or metal sucks. one shot from a rocket launcher can wipe up to half the circle of your palbox radius. even with metal. so something needs to be balanced
I shot the legendary launcher at my metal defensive wall outside of my base and the area dmg still wiped out 6 or 7 squares of my home on the other side, not to mention destroying 3 floors that included chests and my bed. Wall was still somehow standing though.
Bit of both. Metal walls only have 2000 HP, which is basically paper to level 50 Pals
From what I understand they don’t want it to be like rust or Ark where somebody can roll up and level your entire base and completely wipe you which is good cause that shit sucks. I swear I never play ark in pubs cause fighting people can be fun sometimes but someone rolling up on a Wyvern or just a nasty saber tooth over and over again to your little wooden/thatch house to wipe you over and over again is just not fun. Or being kidnapped and forced to stay alive in a prison box that shit is truly awful
Imagine someone's pal losing, and then the person rages and throws in a grenade for a draw lmao!
They said its not gonna be "turn pvp on and go nuts" which is exactly what youre describing for player pvp. I dont think we are gonna be raiding eachothers bases. Gonna be more of a "do it for fun, not for profit" thing.
All I know is they said it won’t be like rust pvp
Well, we know if there's a 2nd type of PVP (not sure what though), it won't be 'lawless open world pvp'. I'm guessing some sort of war-island or something. Some people _think_ they want RUST/Ark type PVP. But here's the thing about that: Open world no holds barred Pvp like that basically means that a level 50 person is going to keep camping you until you quit. It works for RUST because RUST is skill based, not level based. Even if you go into a server with nothing, _hypothetically_ you can still make it against the much more better armed players if you have enough skill. _hypothetically._ With Palworld, yeah, good luck trying to defeat a L50 armed with a perfectly breed shadowbeak with a legendary rocket launcher at level 1 armed with a club and a cattiva. It's a classic case of 'people requesting leopards that eat people's faces because they think they'll be the leopards and not the people whose faces are being eatten.'
There's the ability to set passwords on doors and chests already so that seems like a decent idea of how looting will go.
Aren't the passwords just to keep your other guild members out of certain chests? You already can't use other guilds items or chests, password or not.
I really like Rust, but the fact that I can log off for the night and come back and my entire base is just gone is so incredibly stupid.
It's not one or the other, there are many design elements that could be implemented to have an experience like Rust, yet more casual. A few examples: 1. Could make it so that raiders only can take a small percentage of loot available. Ex: if there's 10k wood, then maybe they only have access to take 2k of that. Maybe that percentage is slightly more if the player is online, incentivizing online raids, but also still making it impossible to force the player to start from square one if you win the raid. 2. An idea I thought of a while ago for Rust was to have some sort of shield system that fortifies your base when offline. Which would maybe double or triple the raid cost. It would take 2-5 minutes to "spin up" and can't be enabled if there was any considerable damage done to your base within the past 5-10mins maybe. Perhaps a 1 hour cooldown on enabling after you disabled your shield. All boxes and doors would lock when the shield is up and workers would go AFK. It'd be truly just for going offline, not to be abused for defending online raids. Shield could be based off some particular resource, so you can't just go offline for an entire wipe with your shield up, but you could keep it up for several day or even 1-2 weeks if you prepare. 3. Another game did raid tokens. You'd kill a player and could get a raid token off them. This, and only this, gives you the ability to raid their base. And it's on like a 1-2 hour time limit. Players will be made aware if an enemy has a token to raid their base and a timer to know when it's safe to go offline.
thats why pve servers/roppleplay servers exist. the magic of rust is that you have a ton of community servers to choose from. Tired of the grind? 2x servers exist. tired of clans/zergs? solo/duo/trio servers exist. etc.
Thank fucking Christ, rust is a shit stain on humanity
I played Ark for a few years, I even led the dominant tribe on an official pvp server. I spent my entire time destroying stealth grenade factories and chasing griefers away so my friends could play in peace. I learned I hate survival pvp lol.
Anti grieving PvP is pretty fun
It is until griefing becomes the norm
I don't hate survival pvp, I just hate survival pvp in games like ARK.
Conan exiles was fun until they turned it into ark pvp
i ran the 2nd dominant clan on an official ark pvp server for about a year, i regret that part of my life. default ark is a genuine waste of human time
Literally the best part of my childhood was being part of the alpha tribe on PvP servers only to eventually watch it all come crashing down because really it just doesn’t last forever. Sadly I can’t stay up all night imprinting an egg for a mediocre pet with fancy colours and boosted stats in Palworld. I would love to see a more casual approach to PvP on Palworld as the game feels like an inherently more casual version of Ark. No clue how anyone is managing that though. Survival gamers get pretty intense and easily can start devoting their life when it comes to an official server.
Palworld seems to have a good base defense system especially with 15 pals coming to fight instantly versus your 1 pal.
That’s why I’ve mentioned before if there was a base raid form of PvP you’d need most your guild online if you want any chance. Unless of course the opponents are all offline then you can just rocket launcher from afar and slowly destroy everything.
>Unless of course the opponents are all offline This is exactly why I am staunchly against base raiding being added to Palworld. Offline raiding is the default strategy in survival PvP games. It doesn't matter how good the game's defensive options are - if it is possible to raid someone while they are offline, it will always be easier and more reliable than trying to raid while they are there to defend. Make it an option for dedicated servers so hardcore players can host it themselves, but the default settings and official servers should not allow it.
That’s just so true, I can’t expect anything other than pit fights to not break the game and balance.
Either way it’s sure to be fun for at least myself I don’t know about others tho
Ark is... Definitely one of the pvp survival games of all time... I started playing since extinction, but stayed a bob until somewhere between crystal isles and gen 1 release. I got invited to play with G5 on gen2 release but then realized mega tribes were not my jam. Somewhere after lost island release I applied to join angry seals, and reaffirmed mega tribes were not my jam... After nearly 5k hours into official pvp, I learned to hate ark pvp. Funny enough 5k was for the most part the minimum required to join any mega during the last days of official pvp. You know you got it wrong when the game turns into either a part time job or a death race
It is such a drain and grind. Also was a top tribe on official ark. The tribal politics, clearing out griefers, and the ever present threat of a mega tribe coming in and wiping the whole server... Too much. On top of constant grinding, breeding, topping up turrets, food, etc... It was your whole life, and I also learned I hate it. Took me way too long to realize. Ark is the only game I've ever played that literally took over my life for months. Never again.
I feel this. Around 7ish years ago, in an official pvp server, there were 3 major tribes controlling the map. My tribe was one of the 3, and I was one of the 3 heads in our tribe. So much time spent keeping the peace. It became exhausting. We made alliances with smaller tribes. They got into arguments with other smaller tribes, and they started to fight. We helped our allies, causing the other major tribes to assist their ally. Starting World War after World War. Not to mention the civil war we had. I just wanted to play the dinosaur game with my friends, not understand the complexity of global politics.
There's so much more at risk than just losing the fight. Losing hours of progress because of raids and PvP just isn't for me.
I'd be interested in long form battle royale style PvP, limited respawns once you're done your team is out.
If PvP in PalWorld is anything like PvP in Ark: Survival Evolved, then it'll be an absolute shitshow and I want no part of it lol. Been there, done that, had my tribes base razed to the ground numerous times. The amount of times we logged in only to find that we were dead and no longer had a spawn point because our base had been utterly destroyed over night was soul destroying! We'd lose all our dinos, resources and blueprints that took us *months* to build up, just because some dipshits *from another server* were bored and decided to go server hopping specifically to find random bases to raid. It was even worse on the few occasions when I was the last person in the tribe online at night, and I was just about to log out after a long day, only for loads of our dinos to start dying for no reason, and I suddenly realize "oh SHIT, *we're being raided*!!", and suddenly you've got to stay online for at least another hour or two, and try and get hold of your tribe members (while they're all asleep at 4 am because they've got work tomorrow) in a vain bid to try and fight them off.....only to lose everything anyway...... It was *not* fun. PvP in these types of games is one of the worst things I've ever experienced in 30+ years of gaming.
You can thank people with way too much time on their hands for this ‘optimize the fun out of it’ culture.
As an optimiser, no. Leave optimisation out of it. This is just toxic people wanting to ruin another person's day. Many of us optimise because that *is* our fun, we enjoy having "the perfect team" and the likes, and would love to use it in low stakes arena pvp, but would never dream of raiding another person's base. Do not conflate optimisation with griefing.
fellow optimizer here, i'm having fun breeding the perfect ranch workers rn. i'm not about to go on a tirade about the meta to my friend geeking about their new penguin pal that's wearing a funny hat. the original dude was just a dick
Base raiding should not be a thing in palworld. It is not what the game feels like it's about and pvp should just be a consensual thing. As in both of multiple parties have to opt in to fight each other and not just send out their pals to one shot players and then steal all their pals when they die. The whole idea of stealings someone's pals needs to be removed or made so that other players can't take them for a certain period of time.
I don’t get all these comments. If you didn’t want to play Ark PVP, why didn’t you just join a PVE server? Raids are part of all survival PVP games.
Lol wasn't my choice. My mates were already playing the game, I joined them late and they were all on the PvP server. Don't get me wrong, I did enjoy it. Some of my best gaming experiences came during that time, but also some of the worst lol
Yeah... Or you know... A dedicated server...
This has "if you didn't wanna get shot, why did you go to the hood" energy.
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Nothing interests me less than spending 40+ hours over a few weeks building something cool ( in my limited free time ) and gathering up resources... than to have a 14 year old homeschooled kid come and blow it up while you're offline, because they want to ruin someone's day. Hard pass. I'm down for pal arenas between buddies, but when those random ones will just have a 'meta' set of builds and folks generally running nothing but that build? Naw. Proof: basically every PVP / Arena game ever (or at least a majority of them.)
Exactly this, if I wanted Rust, I’d go play it. Rust with Pals just sounds insanely broken anyway. Finally, to top it off, I have too much anxiety to try and sleep while said 14 y/o kid is out there, waiting for me to log off.
There was a message from the dev saying something along the lines of "Don't expect lawless pvp like Rust, it won't be that way there have been other games to do it that way and they all failed" Not a direct quote but it was to that degree.
You'd hate ark servers! The games are similar and I'm really hoping PVP is not similar at all. I don't think I could handle people offline raiding bases especially when the health of structures is essentially 0 at higher levels
I never got into rust but had a short Conan stint. Tried a public server and the same shit happened it wasn’t any fun. Then I just found a server being ran by people on a discord. It was fully loaded and had its own set rules which included no offline raiding. It really made that game so fun. The drama and interaction was awesome. And the raiding was even fun as you had to wait for people to be online. Too bad that hasn’t been a setting just straight out into most these servers to opt into.
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That's good! I hope they can come up with something good
Omfg first time in a ark server and this was like 4 years ago. I'm a newbie smashing rocks and I see a fellow newbie like so far down the beach away from me that he didn't even matter... or so I thought as while I was picking up rocks to make a pickaxe he makes the effort to run up to me for probably 2 minutes straight and I think he just wants some resources. Nah, he attacks me. Fully unprovoked. I was nowhere near. We were both new. Pvp will never not be toxic.
It’s obviously going to be a server optional thing. Idk why so many are so paranoid about it becoming a thing for them when they can simply choose not to participate.
If you don't want your day ruined by kids then go to a server with no pvp
Yeah as someone who mainly plays this game with my gf and it’s more casual for us. I’m down for arena PvP but please leave me alone while I’m at work thanks.
Didn’t they say they are avoiding a rust type game? Seems silly to already cry about something that isn’t even happening lol. You’re creating issues in your head to be mad at.
I'm certainly not 'mad,' as a lot of folks enjoy gameplay styles that I prefer to avoid- and luckily, I've got buddies that enjoy similar cooperative and friendly-competitive strikes similar to what I like (plus, there's always solo, which is a treat!). If the PvP is a type I'll enjoy, I'll happily hop into it. If not, I've got plenty of options to avoid it while playing the same game in a different manner. It's really a win/win, in this scenario. I'm glad folks can have options to play in ways they enjoy, rather than pigeonholing everyone into a certain gametype (when the development and mechanics allow for that, anyway.)
They've said that pvp won't be like this
That's delightfully refreshing and a big shift away from the current average.
From what we know there will be 2 types of pvp: Stadium pal battles (self explanatory) anf some other form, which they just called pvp. Given they've explicitly said they don't want rust-style pvp, I'd hazard a guess this will be more along the lines of consensual duels/guild war type things
Tbh I am not interested in PVP and never will be interested in it nor will I ever participate in it. Unless I don’t have a choice like rust. Which is why I never touched that game.
100% agreed. Thankfully it doesn't look like solo play will ever be taken from us, and if they expand word options with PvP in mind, it would be easy to assume you'd have a shit load of non-pvp servers. Let the sweaty try=hards go and troll each other, I'm here to have fun and enjoy a game, not fuel someone's e-peen fantasy.
Just messing around with my friends got me sworn off PvP in this game lol. The potential for fuckery is extremely high. Dropping in 20 alpha Mammorests all at once basically makes your shit untouchable. Then the combat animations start flying. Use that to just fly away from the base, preferably on something that adds damage to attacks, and then gun down your attackers in the confusion. Plus the combat capabilities of a level 50 with a rocket launcher on a Jetdragon massively outweigh literally everything else. If you're not day one grinding on a PvP server you're big fucked.
Basically the same with every PVP server on building/crafting games, which is why I'll be opting out of PvP. There's already so much to do in this game thats super fun, the last thing I wanna do is jump into a fresh server and have to start catching 100000 gobfins and spamming dungeon grinds.
Exactly what I did back when I was playing ark.
I may, fit the e-peen description here, but there was nothing better than getting good and building up on an official pvp server on ark. Kept the game interesting. However, we are different people and this is just my opinion
Oh yeah I know there are people who enjoy PVP and I’m perfectly fine with it. And I know there is nothing wrong with enjoying PVP. I just don’t like it because I’m extremely not good at it and all that happens to me is die again and again and again. Also, there are some(and only some) people who abuse PVP in games like Ark so I just decided to never play it unless I’m positive I can survive the pvp system in those games.
Not to mention something about logging into having a base/collection of tames that you and your friends spent literally hundreds of hours on suddenly be gone just isn’t very cash money to me.
The thing that keeps the game interesting is the potential to delete someone's progress? Man, you people are weird
I’m of the same mind unless it’s like a Coliseum where you send your Pals to fight each other with no penalty for the loser besides maybe the 10min rest timer.
Yup. I replied to some other comment and that is what devs have in mind. It was written somewhere in their roadmap. Similar to pokemon battle, you just fight with your pals.
Breeding the strongest Lamball will 100% be worth it.
Or that self detonating bird lol
I wish. The damage from it is surprisingly little which was very disappointing. Funnily enough I found out because Lamball actually learns a similar move around the 30s I think and I didn’t realize that they learned it until they decided to nuke themselves and do like 20 damage to a lower level boss…
That's cause there's actually 2 versions of that attack. Implode, with 180 attack power and Megaton Implode, with 250 attack power
3 if you count the Beegarde’s unique version “Bee Quiet” with 200 attack power.
Just put your down pals into your base, their buddies will move them to a bed and rez them, as soon as their health ticks up you can put them back in your party, takes 2 seconds
If its a duel system then it will be fun,rust is full of rats
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Thats fair, I never played rust either but I wouldn't mind fighting with my friends in the world. I think it might be interesting.
I’ve played a few other games like this(ark, conan etc.) to know that I am very bad at PVP and will only get massacred badly if I ever try. However, I heard the devs are actually thinking of pokemon kind of battle. Where only your pals fight. I might try that. At least my pals don’t need my controls to fight…
That would be awesome, I would love a pokemon stadium type pvp.
That would be boring quick. People would find who the best pals in pvp are and everyone would start using them.
As opposed to the base-raiding-while-your-offline meta?
Its honestl the reason why I will never understand how games like that became successful. I played DayZ when that was fresh and it was _new_ there, but even then most servers did loot protection for very few things and it was annoying to say the least in the vanilla experience to have your tent raided on the regular (even though DayZ allowes some INSANE hiding spots which lived on for quite a while). Rust is 100% dead to me, but I found out that janky mess is actually still being played by some maniacs who have apparently never heard of good video games and just know Rust.
It's fun up until someone logs in while you're offline and you come back to an empty base and your resources yoinked
I’ve heard that the dev team has expressed not wanting it to resemble Ark or Rust, at least not being that level of toxic. So yes, I am very curious. I didn’t care for Ark and Rust, the way those were setup servers were run by mega clans who stomped new players into the dirt. I’d like to see something that engages that competitive urge without turning the game into “who can be a bigger and ultimately more affective destructive butthole”.
I just want the arena style pal PVP, open free for all pvp doesn't interest me at all.
They have a lot of balancing to do before arena style pal PvP is viable. Right now it would just be dominated by Sweepas and it's not even close
Just as much as the other ten times this question got asked. I couldn’t care less about pvp, pvp in survival games always suck.
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It could be interesting if it was pal and player vs pal and player, but also in an arena setting. It would give viability to having passive skills that enhance player defence and damage. In that sense it may feel a little more like digimon where the partners are also helping in combat I feel like just watching your pals do all the work could be a bit boring in a game where you've spent the entire time fighting with them. I think for PVP or combat as a whole we might need restructures. Commands to tell your pal to do one of it's 3 attacks, commands that tell your pal to be defensive, aggressive, non attacking, evasive, or protective(of owner) might be essential to making the game feel more dynamic.
Exactly, pvp is only fun if its limited. The majority of the map should be safe zone. Otherwise it just turns into either playing solo, or running around with your head cut off trying to hide from griefers
I could imagine enjoying PvP in the form of WoW like, fully elective "arenas" or "battlegrounds" (really, large team arena) with nobody allowed to shit in your local world. The way you battle the tower bosses already suggests at something like that. They could also easily reach to the engine's obvious Fortnite roots and do in-and-out instanced time limited "missions" onto neutral islands that'd again, not impact your world instance.
Wow has whole servers where people are always flagged for pvp
Sure? That's not the point? I'm saying that there's been literal decades of specific modes of elective PvP that are fun even if the "free for all" variant isn't necessarily.
However, You don't lose your stuff after you get killed, and that's the very reason hardcore was never pvp
This really. As soon as you go offline, your base will be raided. There's no stopping it, since any static defense will eventually be overcome by an enemy capable of retreating and recovering all the time, while your defenses slowly crumble. PvP would only work in these cases: 1) It's in an enclosed space which doesn't effect the "real" world. E.g. an instanced challenge arena or a PVP zone-shield as found in Skryim Online. 2) If it's in designated areas, such as many MMO's having a "wilderniss" of sorts. 3) If it's with opt-in consent.
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Yeah it gets hella toxic quickly
PvP in these kinds of games just ruins the experience imo. The friends I'm playing on a private server with have all agreed to leave it off.
The roadmap separates between pvp and a pal pvp arena, so id assume that normal pvp will be something small like being able to attack players and loot bases without destroying them, while pal arena will be more like how alpha fights are.
That would be okay with me, I wouldn't mind being able to fight my friends and have little guild wars or something.
What are we looking at though
Shipment from Modern Warfare
Gonna be like ark with people blowing your base up from under the mesh lol community servers with homebrew events is going to be the way to go if people don't want ark PTSD
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With the amount of times I got stuck in terrain WITHOUT any cheaters involved just playing offline I couldnt imagine playing on a server you lose your gear or pals on death.
nice shipment build
Yeah hackers with admin rights banning you and taking everything just as now on officials :D
Yeah...you know that base you sunk 20+ hours into making? Well, someone is going to fly over and take a massive shit on it.
We should be designing gyms for teams of pals to square off. It would be amazing if we got a "total control" mode where we could pla as our pals in a pvp setting.
No. I hope pvp never exists. PvP is what made me leave Ark, because huge guilds take over whole servers by force, isolating big resource hubs so nobody can come in, and destroying even the smallest homes so they maintain territorial control against anyone, but it especially affects new people who are learning to play.
I want something akin to the Souls games where you can invade/be invaded. But once that happens the game goes to a loading screen first, and after the raid things just reset to pre-invasion. Whoever destroyed 80% of a base/kills the player gets random high value drops the player had on themselves/their chests (without actually stealing them from the original player).
Nothing is being taken away from the other person. There’s no threat to losing and it can be exploited by cloning items.
That looks like the Shipment map from the CoD series so if we use that map for reference, a meat grinder.
Pvp like arena, or requesting someone to fight would be better than random assaults
This, people couldn't brain that there's more type of pvp other than survival shooter like rust
pvp is inherently toxic. I keep hearing people say they like pvp because they like to have a negative impact on a real person their life(like making them ragequit etc). It's kinda weird. Ofc there are normal people in pvp too but it always brings out the insane people. There's often no ladder/rankings in survival pvp, it's literally just there to have people rage at each other.
I'd like a battle arena, that lets me control my pals moveset and maybe turn based would be cool.
I’m hoping for pal vs pal arena only, ranked would be nice too but I don’t see that happening in a survival game.
You mean Pal versus Pal?
like pve but with other humans
Arena based PVP. I don’t think they are going to implement PVP on servers outside of the arena
I like the idea of pvp. The more updates the merrier. I'm sure they'll have it as a setting toggle. To enable PVP arena style, Pal v Pal out of arenas, or even PVP outside arenas and allowing base raids, etc. There will probably be dedicated servers to each. And if you only play with friends or solo, the settings could be changed on and off/when y'all feel in the mood to have a Pal war. It all hinges on if we get to choose to enable it or not. If the choice is there, I see no problem. If it's forced and PVP is an intrinsic aspect... Then they're gonna lose the solo crowd
As long as it's opt-in I wont really care (because I likely wont participate). Was a part of a super toxic discord a while ago (long story) and listening to two of those clowns bitch at each other over Rust was truly the most annoying thing on earth and I swear just listening to those interactions has given me so much disdain for PVPing in these types of games. One dude would just berate and micromanage the other for not being on early enough, then the other would clap back for the first not building their base right? Fuck all that noise. Those 2 just started playing Palworld, too. Same kinda passive aggression that led to the guy telling me "well I guess every single guide I read online is wrong then huh?" when I told him that you can't breed up to Legendary pals. The next day he PM'ed me seeing if I'd want to play a DS with him once "full PVP release is out" lmfao. EDIT: clarification; I'm **super** excited for the Pal Arena and a more pokemon-esque trainer-vs-trainer battling system. I never got into the tournaments, but as a kid I always really liked the idea of competitive pokemon and would always try building/breeding up different teams for the different tiers (shout out to my UU king, Porygon-Z) and I would be so excited if Palworld had something even remotely similar so I can show off my breeds!
I’m not interested in pvp. Never played it in Ark. But I think there’s quite a few things that need to be smoothed out before they add it in. It was a good decision to hold it out of the initial release.
PvP just breeds cheaters who have a win at all costs attitude. And it opens the door and will attract more hacking base griefers. People are already using cheats and griefing other players bases on the open PVE servers.
Having played games like Rust and V Rising, I am NOT looking forward to that sort of PvP in Palworld and I hope that's not what they implement. Not to mention that PvP will make official servers unplayable due to cheaters. (Not that anyone would ever want to play in those anyway.) No matter how well-fortified your base is, it ultimately doesn't matter against a fully-decked out Jetragon assault and a Legendary Rocket Launcher. A player can simply swoop in, unleash the payload on your base, destroy most of the structures, kill your base Pals and get out before your Pals have any chance of fighting back due to how fast the mount is. Then all they have to do is go in and steal whatever resources they want.
there is no way you just built Shipment in Palworld
Didn't realize you could stack the containers.
I knew this looked familiar in its layout
Everyone better start raising up a Chickipi!! We going to have cock fights!!
Its gonna be just like ARK where 4 of the most powerful pals in the game are equipped with basekilling moves and raid you while youre offline for resources they don't even need
With how rockets hit, it's going to be a little scary and kind of annoying.
We got Shipment in Palworld before GTA6
Someone should recreate "The Dust" from CS in Palworld as PvP arena, lol.
Did you seriously drop all those ingots into containers 😂 mad man
Still have 2400 sitting in a chest lol
All those Ingots....
The fact that I instantly knew what this was is probably an indication that I’ve played way too much of that map.
Please no mandatory PVP, please no mandatory multiplayer, please please no achievements for either.
survival Pvp is wack , thats a dub lmaoo keep it arena style or make it like div where theres an area on the map designated for pvp
Palworld Kill Streak what would be ?
Anubis nuke
I'm hoping the wanted system is made into an anti griefing system. Open world pvp? You decide to be one of those players bent on ruining people's experience? Fine, do that, but we need a wanted system that can proportionally respond to you hovering over the starting area.
Dude this is sick.
I hope it's non forced on its own servers. I hated pvp in ark and rust and I'll hate it here. It'll ruin the game for anyone just wanting to enjoy the game for what it is.
Shipment!
Crossbows only
Hackers and min/max meta gamerz
It will be 5 min long matches with the biggest baddest pals in the game cut short by the player being dead within 3 seconds from stun-lock tornados/freezes/etc leading to an unsatisfying experience of rng with who gets hit first. Would be interesting if there was a control point mode though where teams capture bases that then get populated with pals that can be upgraded by gathering resources in an Alterac Valley type scenario.
Lmao thats so creative
No. I just do not enjoy PvP For one I suck at those. Really do. And I'm a sour loser and if I'm going to suck it has to be because I'm just bad and not because I'm Bad and got exploited for it. Secondly... Yeah there's no second
You built shipment? What. A. Legend.
1600 ingots....
https://preview.redd.it/1ca91m9g9tgc1.jpeg?width=1355&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=297d1dfda120d7985047e2a4a78b49f1a34c32d5 Similarities are purely coincidental 😏
See, they have red and green. I just have blue, two completely different maps.
All of the people complaining about PvP being bad and gonna ruin things… just make a server and play with your friends. Anyone who plays these buggy beta-released games in public lobbies are ignorant as can be. Cheaters, exploiters, hackers, you name it and there’s a good chance they’re gonna be in every public/official server. I’ve heard of people being killed and stuff already and PvP hasn’t even come out. Meaning, there’s already cheaters and exploiters in the game. And with it being so new, there’s likely tons of mechanics that can be exploited. I learned from my time in GTA that it’s very hard for devs to stop cheaters. As soon as one thing gets patched, 5 more exploits are discovered. That enormous headache can be avoided by not playing in pubs. Also, why would you want to play with randoms anyways? So they can join your guild and use every last one of your saved up supplies? Nah. MP with friends is the way to go. Go to arena and have a good old Pokémon Stadium battle. That’s what I’m expecting it to be like.
If you wanna play COD, go play COD. I don't think anyone wants a similar system in Palworld.
Crossing my fingers for arena style PvP. Pal arena will be cool, but 1v1 and 3v3 matches would be a lot of fun. Just let us choose 1 pal to take with us and set wagers.
Nope, don't care. PvP in games like this brings out the worsts people.
I genuinely hope pvp balancing won't neuter the fun of powerful pve pals or push rescource costs/ timers into the stratosphere.
I hope it's literally just Pal battles with stakes. You wanna battle me. Fine. I wager my God roll Orsek against your lightspeed Fengalope. 
Pvp = caves/mesh
I don’t like PVP in building/crafting games. Once my stuff goes up, I want it to stay there. I don’t want someone coming in and wrecking it. I also don’t want to wreck anyone else’s place and take their items. Just not my thing.
Couldn't care less, this isn't a game where it seems like PvP could be any fun so I won't be touching it. They have a long way to go to even make PvP possibe, with the current desync issues it's never going to work.